Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, twenty one,
Speaker 1: Episode three of Dr Day's Day production of iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined.
Speaker 1: As always by my co host, mister Miles Gray.
Speaker 4: Miles Gray AKA, oh, I'm a dreammer. I believe it's
Speaker 4: because I'm smoke. Unless we heed shout out to the dreams.
Speaker 4: They're still coming. They're still rapidly hitting me, and they're
Speaker 4: beautiful and they're wonderful. And thank you to everybody who
Speaker 4: I see dream based akas. I will get to those,
Speaker 4: But first journey.
Speaker 2: To last night, Miles oh Man, I had another one.
Speaker 2: I was driving with her majesty like down a street
Speaker 2: and like I said something like cracked her up. It
Speaker 2: was like so mundane, but I just remember viing. I
Speaker 2: woke up and it was like one of those things,
Speaker 2: like you were really liking that joke that I said.
Speaker 2: It's just like, what the fuck? Okay, you're talking about
Speaker 2: your dream again.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I make my wife laugh all
Speaker 1: the time in my dreams, only.
Speaker 2: In my dreams. Yeah, it sounds like a nice is
Speaker 2: my dreams?
Speaker 1: Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our
Speaker 1: third seat by a TikTok superstar and the author of
Speaker 1: the new memoir I Survived Capitalism, and all I got
Speaker 1: was this lousy T shirt. Please welcome, Madeline Pendule.
Speaker 2: Tame, Welcome, Welcome. How are you what up?
Speaker 5: I'm doing great? Thanks for having me, hear guys.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's great to have you. Great to
Speaker 2: have you. Howard. How how's the book? You know, the
Speaker 2: book pushing world right now? You know, we have a
Speaker 2: lot of people on who have books coming out, and
Speaker 2: it always feels like some version of I am constantly
Speaker 2: talking about it, doing stuff about it and getting it
Speaker 2: off the ground. And I saw that you had a
Speaker 2: goal of usurping Kiyosaki's rich dad, poor dad, and I
Speaker 2: saw that you did accomplish that. Have you Have you
Speaker 2: gone fully? Have you fully usurped Dick Kiyosaki?
Speaker 5: So what I've heard so far is that we are
Speaker 5: currently beating rich dad poored ad in personal finance in
Speaker 5: a number of different charts, which is very thrilling to me. Okay,
Speaker 5: because I have a personal vendetta against this book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually the only book I've ever read, which
Speaker 1: probably never read it, but it's probably the book that
Speaker 1: I have neglected or like turned down people's advice to read.
Speaker 2: People be like, oh, yeah, you got to read Rich Dad,
Speaker 2: Poor Dad. Man kill it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you are not missing anything. I remember I
Speaker 5: had the same experience when I first realized maybe I
Speaker 5: was really broken bad with money, and everybody was like,
Speaker 5: you got to read Rich Dad, Poor Dad? And I
Speaker 5: read it and I was like, I'm sorry. The secret
Speaker 5: is that I need to buy apartment buildings. I actually
Speaker 5: think that's feasible for me in my life. So do
Speaker 5: I just die?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 5: And the book's like, yeah, pretty much, you buy several
Speaker 5: apartment buildings or you die, and those are the two options.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember my well, my dad. I remember when
Speaker 2: my dad got it and I had it gave me
Speaker 2: low self esteem about my own dad because I'm like,
Speaker 2: are you the are you the broke dad? Like what
Speaker 2: do you like? This is? This is like loser behavior
Speaker 2: kind of why are you reading this shit? Like? And
Speaker 2: it kind of made me panic, Oh, my parents are
Speaker 2: fucked up like with money. I mean, obviously we weren't
Speaker 2: the most financially literate group out there, but I remember
Speaker 2: at the end, he's like, you know, it's all about
Speaker 2: that passive income. You know, got to have that passive income.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, and how are you doing that? He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, bro, I'm a professor. I'm just keep
Speaker 2: doing this shit. Never never tell you what.
Speaker 5: Okay, your dad was the poor dad then, because I
Speaker 5: remember reading it and I'm like, I'm sorry. The example
Speaker 5: of the poor dad is just like a teacher who
Speaker 5: hasn't been four or oh one k and takes care
Speaker 5: of his family.
Speaker 2: Right, this is my goal. A loser, a loser.
Speaker 5: My goal is to be a loser. That's what I want.
Speaker 5: I say in the sub loser status. If I read
Speaker 5: rich Dad, Poor Dad, and I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: the poor dad feels like he's really.
Speaker 2: Got it going on here, right, No? For real? Well,
Speaker 2: so I mean, is there anything that, like the book
Speaker 2: intersected with you personally aside from just reading it that
Speaker 2: you had a vendet or are you just sort of
Speaker 2: realize that he is sort of perpetuating a mindset that
Speaker 2: is slowly degrading the quality of life for millions of people.
Speaker 5: Okay, well that's a big one, the thing you've just
Speaker 5: said as a major one. But I also think that
Speaker 5: a lot of these guys, these like old school money
Speaker 5: guys there. I mean, they wrote their books in the past.
Speaker 5: They're living in the past. Like it's not the eighties,
Speaker 5: it's not the early nineties. You know, these things, these
Speaker 5: tips aren't even like economically feasible anymore. Like forget buying
Speaker 5: an apartment building. Like most people can't buy a house
Speaker 5: because all the sudden, single family houses are being bought
Speaker 5: by real estate investors. It's just a totally different ballgame.
Speaker 5: So these books are out of touch. They're ethically I
Speaker 5: would say evil, I think evil, Say they're evil. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're morally unconscionable, unconscionable, unconscious I don't even know that.
Speaker 1: Word, unconscious, conscionable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's very very frustrating, and
Speaker 5: I think like a lot of when you're trying to
Speaker 5: figure out money, like if you come from a place where,
Speaker 5: like my family wasn't super financially literate, you know, you're
Speaker 5: trying to figure it out. So much of this is
Speaker 5: about personal accountability. Like everything you read is just like, well,
Speaker 5: you're poor because you're a loser, and you're doing anything
Speaker 5: wrong because you're so stupid, you stupid loser. Loser, stupid, stupid,
Speaker 5: and it gets really hard to read these things, and
Speaker 5: you're like, I don't feel like I'm a stupid loser.
Speaker 5: I feel like maybe life is just.
Speaker 1: Hard, so maybe if you'd tried a little bit harder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quick, loser test. Look in your garage right now.
Speaker 2: Are there three lambos in there? No? They guess what
Speaker 2: l O s e er fucking loser? Hold that up?
Speaker 2: Three lambeau loser? Yeah? Wow, zero lambeau? Ouch. I know, dude.
Speaker 2: Only lambo I have is maybe in like a video
Speaker 2: game that I was playing recently, and that's all I need,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't have to maintain that.
Speaker 5: You just need the GTA.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like finance people are like the people who
Speaker 1: read rich Poor Dad love to tell you.
Speaker 2: They love to be like, you.
Speaker 1: Know what Einstein said, the most powerful force in the
Speaker 1: universe is do you know the answer to that? Have
Speaker 1: you ever heard somebody say that? I've heard this like
Speaker 1: five times, and it's always from the people who tell
Speaker 1: me to read rich dabfoorda compound interest, like I didn't
Speaker 1: say that shit. No, Einstein didn't say that shit. Man.
Speaker 1: Einstein was not weighing in on fucking investments strategy, asshole.
Speaker 2: But people people always attribute like fake ast quotes to
Speaker 2: Einstein because the like the definition of insanity quote that
Speaker 2: people always say, like people like, you know what Einstein said,
Speaker 2: You're like, that's not even true, and that's like as
Speaker 2: a statement that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: But actually Einstein thinks Lebron is the goat. Einstein said
Speaker 1: Lebron is actually better than Jordan, So yeah, the fuck
Speaker 1: just some shit Einstein probably didn't care about. But other
Speaker 1: than that, but the book feeling good. It's doing well.
Speaker 1: It seems like, so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I started on the book tour on Friday, and
Speaker 5: I think it's going to go well. I think it's
Speaker 5: I'm this one thing I'm afraid of. Okay, So I
Speaker 5: wrote this book and it's really interesting. When I was
Speaker 5: like approach to write a memoir, it's called like a
Speaker 5: memoir with a purpose. So it's a story about my life,
Speaker 5: but it's a story about my relationship with money, right,
Speaker 5: so every chapter is like something that happened in my
Speaker 5: life in chronological order, and then to the end is
Speaker 5: a lesson I learned about money during that experience. But
Speaker 5: it is really hard because all of a sudden you're
Speaker 5: talking about your family and you're talking about stuff like
Speaker 5: people and your family are maybe embarrassed to talk about.
Speaker 5: And you know, I have a mother that I like,
Speaker 5: i'm no contact with. So when someone was like, write
Speaker 5: this book about your life, instantly, the first thing I
Speaker 5: thought was like, oh, that's going to be tricky, and
Speaker 5: I like took all this time to craft this like
Speaker 5: really fair, nuanced, you know, kind of assessment of my family.
Speaker 5: And yeah, in the end, before the book even came out,
Speaker 5: it turns out it didn't matter because my mother's family
Speaker 5: already wrote an angry letter to the publisher just based
Speaker 5: off the book jacket alone. So the book tour is
Speaker 5: scary because of like, oh, go, you know you have
Speaker 5: these people in your family.
Speaker 2: Capitalism nor got that T shirt? Both? Why right?
Speaker 5: We legally just you get on paranoid. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: going to show up at the grove in LA and
Speaker 5: try to fight me.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I meant content for the follow up memoir though.
Speaker 5: You know, I started asking my friends if they'll defend
Speaker 5: me from my mother at the grove and they're like,
Speaker 5: am I expected to throw a punch? And I'm like,
Speaker 5: you're not, not like she goes swinging like you got
Speaker 5: to get in there and punch my mom for me
Speaker 5: the biggest thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just answer with whatever whatever she's putting down, like
Speaker 2: that's the key we're playing in, and then we'll go
Speaker 2: from there. It's like jazz baby, right right.
Speaker 1: That's right, all right. Well, we're going to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell you listening to a couple of things
Speaker 1: we're talking about today. Oh, we got so much. We
Speaker 1: got too much to get to. So I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about Boeing at some point there on a heater.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Ted Cruz, who endorsed Trump, and if
Speaker 1: any if his sports fandom history is any indication that's
Speaker 1: a bad thing for Donald Trump, So good thing for
Speaker 1: whoever wins.
Speaker 2: We all lose.
Speaker 1: But this guy stinks at endorsing things. So we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that plenty more. But first, Madeline, we do like
Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search
Speaker 1: history that's revealing.
Speaker 2: About who you are?
Speaker 5: Oh, I have the perfect one. It's Ronald Reagan FBI files.
Speaker 5: I was trying to find the declassified FBI files from
Speaker 5: the time that Ronald Reagan was an informant, yeah, during
Speaker 5: the McCarthy era, and this is like very goddamn peek, Madeline.
Speaker 5: It's not very current, you know, but I think this
Speaker 5: is like really the summary of everything I am interested
Speaker 5: in as a person.
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean it was also I feel like we
Speaker 2: started talking about that too, just as like the SAG
Speaker 2: after strikes were heating up too, because all of you can,
Speaker 2: like you can draw a straight line from all the
Speaker 2: SAG strikes directly to Rock Reagan from like always been
Speaker 2: like yeah, man, so my manager also owns Universal. But
Speaker 2: like if I'm in this position of the president's sad,
Speaker 2: you know, like we let's just kind of keep this
Speaker 2: thing going. And also like I'm gonna fucking rat out
Speaker 2: anybody who I think is a communist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 2: It's always interesting how like Ronald Reagan is somehow like
Speaker 2: at the forefront of so many things, like we're trying
Speaker 2: to figure out this country.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always Reagan. It's wild. This is like I think,
Speaker 5: like my life is just like sifting through d classified documents.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah, have you read that. I Mean they're
Speaker 2: fun though, you know, especially when you're like they have
Speaker 2: this out here, for everyone to just like fucking read
Speaker 2: yeah they don't think. Okay, what was the video that
Speaker 2: you had where they took the audio down when you
Speaker 2: were talking? I think wasn't the CIA. It was.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Somebody was like, I'm gonna need to know like
Speaker 5: the top five strangest things you think the CIA has done,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, okay, yeah, you can read
Speaker 5: all about these and they're really on their website. Yeah
Speaker 5: these are real classified anything's done. And then yeah, the
Speaker 5: audio was removed from my tiptok which I thought was funny.
Speaker 5: But yeah, the Reagan thing, the thing I thought was
Speaker 5: really really funny, which I made a video talking about
Speaker 5: this actually online. So I'm like, this is just so wild.
Speaker 5: The way the FBI recruited him was they basically pulled
Speaker 5: like a Regina George mean girls on him and they
Speaker 5: were like, all of the other really cool Hollywood actors
Speaker 5: are communists. And I heard they got together and had
Speaker 5: a party and they didn't invite you and they were
Speaker 5: making fun of you, and it was like, so sad
Speaker 5: Ronald Reagan, like you should probably snitch on them because
Speaker 5: they're mean to you behind your back.
Speaker 2: You're not going to like let that happen to you, right, Ronnie, Like,
Speaker 2: that's that would be whatever. I mean, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to tell you what to do. I just thought bigger.
Speaker 2: I just thought more highly of you than what you're
Speaker 2: showing me right now.
Speaker 5: So right, yeah, they was.
Speaker 1: There actually a party that, like he had not been
Speaker 1: invited to where people were making There is no way.
Speaker 5: To know, but guess I'm guessing not. I'm guessing absolutely not,
Speaker 5: because this is the kind of thing they do all
Speaker 5: the time. When you're even when you have strange hobbies
Speaker 5: like I do, and you just like sift through the documents,
Speaker 5: You're like, oh, this is exactly the kind of little
Speaker 5: like psychological warfare tricks that the FBI did obviously was
Speaker 5: like co Intel pro and also the CIA did all
Speaker 5: around the world. So I just loved it. Ronald Reagan
Speaker 5: fell for it though, he like hook Line and Singer,
Speaker 5: not even hesitating. He was like, oh, people said mean
Speaker 5: things about me.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, well, well I guess I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 2: a loser, so I'll tell you who. I think.
Speaker 5: He had three lambos for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: That's a three lambo guy.
Speaker 1: If I've ever seen lambo minimum minimum called.
Speaker 2: Him Lambo Ronnie. What's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 5: Okay, this is like pertaining to my book a little bit,
Speaker 5: but you know, like how people are. People will do
Speaker 5: this thing where they're like, yeah, I'm getting good with money.
Speaker 5: I've been doing some investing, and then it's just like
Speaker 5: the Robinhood app or something like that. You know, there's
Speaker 5: like these apps where you like buy small amounts of
Speaker 5: single stock, And I hate these freaking apps so much
Speaker 5: because I think like it almost perpetuates that kind of
Speaker 5: rich dad poor dad, like girl boss energy, where it's like,
Speaker 5: you don't nobody actually takes the time to teach you.
Speaker 5: It's like maybe a lower middle class like actual like
Speaker 5: person financial literacy tools that could help you. Instead it's like, well,
Speaker 5: just you know, you know, investing in stock is good,
Speaker 5: so just download this app or you invest a few
Speaker 5: dollars in these single stocks, and you're not getting like
Speaker 5: the value of diversification. You're not investing in index funds
Speaker 5: or mutual funds. You're not doing good things that are
Speaker 5: actually good for lower income people. But it makes people
Speaker 5: feel like they're financially responsible, so then they like never
Speaker 5: pursue the next step, like they never actually look into
Speaker 5: what they should be doing that would be benefiting them
Speaker 5: more long term. Right, So, I feel like there's almost
Speaker 5: like a pop finance thing going on in the world.
Speaker 5: Like we have pop psychology, you know, we also have
Speaker 5: like pop finance, and I think that's kind of the
Speaker 5: same thing that goes along with like the rich dead
Speaker 5: porta thing, the single stock investment apps on your phone,
Speaker 5: you know, all of these kinds of things. Oh, also
Speaker 5: like the apps where they help you find your subscriptions
Speaker 5: and cancel your subcription. Like, don't get me wrong, that
Speaker 5: can be really really useful. But showing people these apps,
Speaker 5: especially in like advertising, and saying like, well, you're broke
Speaker 5: because you're actually paying eight dollars a month more for
Speaker 5: one subscription service you forgot about, is just like so
Speaker 5: insulting to me. It's like beyond the pale, and like
Speaker 5: people aren't broke because they forgot one eight dollars subscription service.
Speaker 5: Like great, yeah, you have an app that does that.
Speaker 5: That's so cool. But this whole world of pop finance
Speaker 5: kind of like in my head, does the personal accountability
Speaker 5: thing and totally denies all of the systemic structural issues
Speaker 5: that actually affect people's real life and how they interact with.
Speaker 2: Money, right right, eating too much avocado toast right exactly.
Speaker 5: It's like more manifestations of that same idea. Exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, ever since I stopped eating avocado toast,
Speaker 2: my credit score has gone up.
Speaker 1: It's it was the main problem in my life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I should admit how much avocado toast I was
Speaker 1: eating up front. It was a problem both for my
Speaker 1: health financially and physically, and for the local economy.
Speaker 2: I was told I.
Speaker 1: Was closing but entire cafes.
Speaker 2: There's always some version of like being like, yeah, there's
Speaker 2: a problem with like sort of X industry or like
Speaker 2: societal threat or some existential threat we have. It's like,
Speaker 2: but the solution isn't to interrogate the like their lack
Speaker 2: of regulations or the greed that got us here. It's
Speaker 2: actually that you should buy this kind of straw, and
Speaker 2: then that's the solution and then we complete. Like most
Speaker 2: people are just like, oh, thank god, I've been offered
Speaker 2: this consumer solution to a problem. I'm just feeding the machine.
Speaker 5: That goes back to the Ronald Reagan thing too, where
Speaker 5: he was like the king of deregulation and when you
Speaker 5: talk about like a lot of what's happening financially in
Speaker 5: the world, but also like socially in terms of that
Speaker 5: kind of like peak liberalization of the economy where you're like, well,
Speaker 5: the government's not going to do anything, and we're going
Speaker 5: to have these private companies come in and they're going
Speaker 5: to solve all these problems, even if they're problems that
Speaker 5: aren't actually the main issues we should be addressing, and
Speaker 5: they are. They're going to offer you consumption solutions that
Speaker 5: it's and it puts everything on the consumer, this like
Speaker 5: personal accountability thing, and it does we become these pop
Speaker 5: culture kind of consumers of ideology as well. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 5: when you consume a special kind of straw, you're also
Speaker 5: consuming a special kind of ideology that goes along with that.
Speaker 5: And that's where we see like our social and political
Speaker 5: issues overlap with like capitalism, just like people trying to
Speaker 5: sell you things all day long, and I think people
Speaker 5: get fatigued from that without even realizing that that's what's
Speaker 5: affecting them.
Speaker 2: So at firstly, right, and let me guess before we
Speaker 2: get your underrated, I want to guess what it's going
Speaker 2: to be the Stanley. The Stanley mugs thought that so
Speaker 2: fucking dope that there's such a good investment, but they
Speaker 2: hold their value.
Speaker 5: No, okay, I like you. I'm a humble person on
Speaker 5: the internet. I saw the video where that Chicks car
Speaker 5: caught on fire and her cup still had ice in it.
Speaker 5: I like you, thought, now that's a cup, that's a cup.
Speaker 5: It's an impressive cut.
Speaker 2: I love that video, those like ma. She opens the
Speaker 2: door and it's clearly frozen outside of the car too,
Speaker 2: and it's like, it's not like you left it in
Speaker 2: the desert for fucking three weeks. You left it in
Speaker 2: a refrigerator for a fucking a few days. And of
Speaker 2: course there's so ic in it. But yeah, the hype anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I don't mean to to ecure what you're
Speaker 2: actual underrated might be.
Speaker 5: Okay, so my actual underrated one is there's no way
Speaker 5: anybody could have guessed this. It's so underrated. I stumbled
Speaker 5: across this podcast that had seven reviews, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: this is the most important podcast I've ever listened to
Speaker 5: in my life. And it's this woman who you can
Speaker 5: tell she doesn't she's not a performer, she's not an entertainer,
Speaker 5: you know, it's the nice way to say it. And
Speaker 5: she's just kind of like, I researched some things and
Speaker 5: I think people need to know about it. And it's
Speaker 5: called the Memory Hole, and I was like, everything about
Speaker 5: this podcast is like not marketable, like the name the
Speaker 5: Memory Hole, come on, like, this is not a great
Speaker 5: name for a podcast, and she is not an in
Speaker 5: But when you listen to it, it is so fascinating.
Speaker 5: And it's about like the Memory Wars of the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 5: So I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with us,
Speaker 5: but basically in the nineteen eighties, these battles broke out
Speaker 5: between like research neuropsychiatrists and therapists where they were trying
Speaker 5: to figure out how much of our memories we actually
Speaker 5: can repress when we go through like traumatic things.
Speaker 2: And so the neuropsychiatrist, where as a Mandela effect comes from, right, well.
Speaker 5: This is part of it, yes, but also like the
Speaker 5: satanic panic was tied into this, And what we keep
Speaker 5: finding is that a lot of therapists are under the impression,
Speaker 5: you know, that memories are repressed very very often, But
Speaker 5: the people who actually research the way memory works are
Speaker 5: like you're not finding any scientific evidence of this. So
Speaker 5: it's this wars that that's been going on, especially since
Speaker 5: the eighties with a Satanic panic, because you would have
Speaker 5: people come forward and be like, I have these memories
Speaker 5: of my kindergarten being taken to a Satanic temple and
Speaker 5: kids were sacrificed to the devil, and the adults are like,
Speaker 5: believe the children, and then these research ins psychiatrists are like,
Speaker 5: I don't. That's not even like one, some of these
Speaker 5: things these kids are saying aren't even possible, but like two,
Speaker 5: that's not how memory works. And three of the adults
Speaker 5: in their lives are like leading them, like implanting sure
Speaker 5: all of these thoughts in their heads. So it's really
Speaker 5: interesting because by the nineties, we as a culture had
Speaker 5: kind of been like, WHOA, that was a really bad
Speaker 5: thing that we all agreed that we would just believe
Speaker 5: anything a child said, even when the adults in the
Speaker 5: room were eating them and implanting memories in their head
Speaker 5: and actually a messing with them a lot. But now
Speaker 5: it's been repackaged and it's come out again. So it's
Speaker 5: like this recent resurgence of this idea that everybody has
Speaker 5: repressed memories about everything. So the memory wars have been reignited.
Speaker 5: And this woman did this really great podcast. She's like
Speaker 5: a gen X chick, and she's like, Hey, I was
Speaker 5: alive in the eighties. I was in college in the
Speaker 5: nineties when everybody was still talking about recrest memories, and
Speaker 5: we just keep like as a culture, repackaging this idea
Speaker 5: and selling these people in different ways. It's super fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to put that on that's super interesting, the
Speaker 1: idea that like memories are these solid things that can
Speaker 1: be changed and you just like uncover them like that
Speaker 1: you can like dig around in the mind and like
Speaker 1: find them, versus memory being this like malleable thing that
Speaker 1: can be affected that you can Like there's this this
Speaker 1: doctor who implants, Elizabeth Loftus, who did a bunch of
Speaker 1: research proving that you can actually implant childhood memories in
Speaker 1: people's minds. Granted she didn't do like the dangerous ones.
Speaker 1: She was like, here's a picture of you at Disney
Speaker 1: World with like bugs Bunny, and like the people are like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely remember that, and like have that memory and
Speaker 1: answer questions about that memory for years and then turns
Speaker 1: out like bugs. Bunny is not a Disney character, you know, she.
Speaker 2: Got your ass, it's a Warner bros Ip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like an early version of photoshop to like
Speaker 1: create Yeah, or like a memory of a hot air
Speaker 1: balloon trip and people. Yeah, Like memories are just stories
Speaker 1: that our brain tells itself. And you know, we've been
Speaker 1: talking a lot about dreams lately, Like dreams are in there,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a whole bunch of things that
Speaker 1: can fool you into thinking you have a memory that
Speaker 1: didn't actually happen.
Speaker 2: It's super interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of picked up on that. Are you
Speaker 5: doing dry January and now your dreams are very intense?
Speaker 5: Is that what's happening?
Speaker 2: No? I was, so I smoke a lot of weed,
Speaker 2: but I was in Japan visiting my family, and I
Speaker 2: just don't smoke weed when I'm in Japan just because
Speaker 2: of the laws. But so, so I just wasn't smoking
Speaker 2: weed at all, and so I just had a natural,
Speaker 2: like sort of cleanse while I was there, and very quickly,
Speaker 2: just my dreams just went to a fucking like level
Speaker 2: thirteen out of ten kind of shit. And I was
Speaker 2: like close as I've been to lucid dreaming I would,
Speaker 2: I would say, because like I could wake up and
Speaker 2: I would say, like I actually want to re enter
Speaker 2: this dream, and then I would just go right back
Speaker 2: into it. So I had never had that sort of
Speaker 2: ability or such vivid dream recall before. So yeah, that's
Speaker 2: just been a that's just been a very interesting sort
Speaker 2: of dimension of my subconscious that I've has been dulled
Speaker 2: for very long time and just sort of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: re engaging with it has been super interesting and just
Speaker 2: a trip, to be honest.
Speaker 5: My boyfriend had the same experience, so he stopped drinking
Speaker 5: and smoking weed for dry January though, and he's been
Speaker 5: saying every single day he's like, my dreams are so
Speaker 5: intense and gnarly, and I think it's one of those
Speaker 5: things you don't you don't realize you're missing it, you know,
Speaker 5: I really have. Yeah, it's like a whole inner life
Speaker 5: that you're living.
Speaker 2: It's somewhat motivated me to sort of be a little
Speaker 2: bit more, to abstain a bit more from smoking, because
Speaker 2: like there's a part of me that like I'm becoming
Speaker 2: more and more intrigued by it that I just I
Speaker 2: feel like I want to be as conscious as possible
Speaker 2: for that kind of thing or whatever it may bring.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm on a bit of a journey right now.
Speaker 2: For sure, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: But it all does. Yeah, it like ties in with
Speaker 5: the memory and the subconscious thing a really interesting way.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: be right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back.
Speaker 1: And people might have seen the news story where the
Speaker 1: a door blew.
Speaker 2: Off an Alaska Airlines flight. Yeah, I caught that. You
Speaker 2: might have noticed that, Yeah, as you are flying around
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but United Airlines was trending over the weekend because
Speaker 1: they found loose bolts on undisclosed number of their seven
Speaker 1: thirty sevens.
Speaker 2: There was just that.
Speaker 1: The most hopeful I've been that something's going to happen
Speaker 1: here is Anthony Blincoln's trip from Davos had to be
Speaker 1: delayed because of a Boeing plane fucking up. So maybe
Speaker 1: something will actually get done, but probably you hate to
Speaker 1: see it, you know, Like I'm okay with those people
Speaker 1: on the Alaska Airlines flight, but a great man like
Speaker 1: Anthony Blinko and at Davos, Yeah, like I just hate
Speaker 1: the idea of him being.
Speaker 2: Inconvenicing any sort of in any way. Yes, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: he's serious.
Speaker 1: People that man does so much totally agree.
Speaker 2: We're totally aligned.
Speaker 1: So first of all, just when you're releasing a report
Speaker 1: of loose bolts on a undisclosed number of seven thirty sevens,
Speaker 1: my request would be that that number be more how
Speaker 1: you say, disclosed?
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 1: But Twitter did its thing and tried to tie the
Speaker 1: failure of these or these loose bolts to United Airlines
Speaker 1: having a DEI program and being like, you know, look
Speaker 1: at the woke United Airlines CEO. He says he values DEI.
Speaker 1: That's why this has happened. Next, the bolts blow up,
Speaker 1: giving over skipping over the very clear culprit of Boeing,
Speaker 1: the manufacturer of these airlines, who have used their massive
Speaker 1: size and you know, just massive power military government relationships
Speaker 1: to evade regulations in a way that is putting all
Speaker 1: of us at risk constantly. There's a great article on
Speaker 1: a democracy now. There's a Politico article. Oh, that one's
Speaker 1: about the Anthony Blincoln thing. But the democracy now one
Speaker 1: covers like just the history of Boeing rushing to update
Speaker 1: these seven thirty seven MAC series to compete with Airbus,
Speaker 1: the European consortium and everything, Like the guy who was
Speaker 1: in charge of like one of the heads there at
Speaker 1: the time was like everything was being rushed. We had
Speaker 1: a shortage of skilled employees, we were having all kinds
Speaker 1: of issues with quality problems. There's just incredible schedule pressure.
Speaker 1: There's a saying in the factory they call it schedulest
Speaker 1: king cool. And then so that guy, in response to
Speaker 1: two fatal crashes that happened as a result of this thing,
Speaker 1: that he was like, guys, this is gonna fucking kill somebody,
Speaker 1: like if we just go forward with this. And because
Speaker 1: there's no regulations in place, because Boeing is so powerful
Speaker 1: and had lobbied and people died, he left and started
Speaker 1: the Foundation for Aviation Safety and is now saying like
Speaker 1: this incident with Alaska, I'm sure is shocking to passengers,
Speaker 1: but for those of us who have been watching this
Speaker 1: for a while, it's really not a surprise at all.
Speaker 1: We've seen ever since the Max has been put back
Speaker 1: in service, over twenty serious production quality defects that have
Speaker 1: surfaced and the public is unaware. And yeah, like Boeing
Speaker 1: was criminally charged in the wake of the two seven
Speaker 1: thirty seven Max eight crashes, but just like negotiated a
Speaker 1: deferred prosecution agreement. But it's just this is what we've got,
Speaker 1: Like the system doesn't even really try to work. It's
Speaker 1: like not doing any of the things that would effectively
Speaker 1: like protect consumers. But it's you know, these companies are
Speaker 1: so big and powerful that there's there's just like nothing
Speaker 1: that can be done at this point, or nothing that
Speaker 1: is being done at least.
Speaker 2: It's just like it's just one that like this, along
Speaker 2: with so many other stories in our country, are just
Speaker 2: these perfect examples of like regulatory capture. You know, like
Speaker 2: we're corporate interest groups. They lobbed, like whether that's through
Speaker 2: lobbying or just like the revolving door of like a
Speaker 2: capitol hill, like to the point where these interest groups
Speaker 2: they end up being the ones regulating the regulators. And
Speaker 2: like with Boeing, basically like the FAA was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: we have people that we need to inspect it. They're like, yo, bro,
Speaker 2: what if you actually just ordained our own employees to
Speaker 2: do the inspections that you're supposed to do and we'll
Speaker 2: let you know if we find anything like you know
Speaker 2: on the like that might not be you know, might
Speaker 2: be not on the level and they're like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: go ahead. So it's like Boeing that did their own
Speaker 2: inspections on these planes too, and then just told just
Speaker 2: gave the FA their report to be like all right,
Speaker 2: and that's what we're saying, So that's good enough, right,
Speaker 2: rather than having you come in as an independent body
Speaker 2: to look at like the products that we're making. And
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's like the same thing with how like
Speaker 2: the opioid crisis ended up, same thing with how like
Speaker 2: just you know, our like the SEC and our subprime
Speaker 2: mortgage crisis ended up. Like there's just so many examples
Speaker 2: of these things where the industry ends up being the
Speaker 2: one that makes the rules and then we somehow just
Speaker 2: like quite literally go into crash into disaster. Yeah.
Speaker 5: This also goes back to Ronald Regan, doesn't it. Everything
Speaker 5: goes back to these deregulatory practices and the pro business stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it is interesting like once you start learning
Speaker 5: too about how the lobbying groups will literally write the
Speaker 5: laws that they want pass to regulate their own industries,
Speaker 5: and very often you'll find they're supposed to be sample bills, right,
Speaker 5: These are supposed to be sample language bills. And then Yeah,
Speaker 5: when you compare the language exactly, you're like, this wasn't
Speaker 5: even a sample. Somebody just got paid to sign this basically,
Speaker 5: and it is. It's really really appalling, and it is
Speaker 5: something that happens I think in like every era of business,
Speaker 5: area of business in the United States now. And this
Speaker 5: is why when I'm googling things like Ronald Reagan FBI
Speaker 5: files and like, if only the FBI had not told
Speaker 5: Ronald Regan about a really cool party he wasn't invited to,
Speaker 5: maybe we would have more regulatory standards from the business
Speaker 5: in this country. Yeah, it's really appalling.
Speaker 2: And maybe listen to the things his parents were trying
Speaker 2: to teach him, you know what I mean, and be
Speaker 2: more in line with that, because like, forgive me if
Speaker 2: I'm a mistake. But I thought like his parents were
Speaker 2: like sort of like had almost antithetical sort of beliefs philosophically,
Speaker 2: people totally correct.
Speaker 5: His parents were FDR New Deal kind of Democrats, but
Speaker 5: not just regular Democrats. They're like kind of what we
Speaker 5: would think of his DSA today. They were very much
Speaker 5: in favor of government spending. His dad, you know, was
Speaker 5: an alcoholic who struggled to hold down a job, the
Speaker 5: job he eventually did hold down was a New Deal job,
Speaker 5: like his dad was employed because of you know, government spending.
Speaker 5: And this is something that we see like throughout his life,
Speaker 5: even as he's performing to the political right and doing
Speaker 5: all of these things that would be the complete opposite
Speaker 5: of anything his parents had fought for. When you asked
Speaker 5: him personally, like, well, how did you feel about the
Speaker 5: New Deal, He's like, well, the New Deal gave my
Speaker 5: dad a job, so I loved it, right, And it's
Speaker 5: just like this real conflicting kind of viewpoint inside him.
Speaker 2: Poor Ronald, Poor, I hear that far Well, that's I'm
Speaker 2: just I'm an EmPATH, you know, And that's yeah. There's
Speaker 2: a great book called tear Down. Yeah, oh exactly right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but there's a book about Reagan called tear Down. This
Speaker 2: myth that was like sort of my entry point into
Speaker 2: really like examining the the the real mythology of Ronald Reagan,
Speaker 2: because like, growing up, you're always like, oh man, everything's
Speaker 2: like named after him. It's like it's because all these
Speaker 2: fucking people got so rich off of him. They're like
Speaker 2: watch this, dude, I'm shout out to Ronnie for taking
Speaker 2: away all the fucking guardrails that were there that just
Speaker 2: made me a hyper billionaire. Mister Gorbachev, tear up this ass.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you should have said that.
Speaker 5: No, you shouldn't apologize for that.
Speaker 2: Honestly, that was no, it was the other one was
Speaker 2: tear off My balls was the other one. I think
Speaker 2: to tear off my tear.
Speaker 1: Off my two all time great tweets that I can't source.
Speaker 5: At the moment, But now I just think of Ronald
Speaker 5: Reagan kind of was like a general punk rock icon
Speaker 5: because you know, like what other way, Like I was
Speaker 5: born in the eighties, Like I know so much about
Speaker 5: Ronald grig and mostly because of punk songs from like
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty five, you know. But then yeah, when you
Speaker 5: think into it, you're like, actually, this is all still
Speaker 5: so so relevant to our life because the eighties really
Speaker 5: started that trend towards massive deregulation, and he was part
Speaker 5: of that movement of like the new right, and the
Speaker 5: new right was even different than what the right wing
Speaker 5: had been before the nineteen fifties and sixties, and it
Speaker 5: really coalesced with him in a lot of ways. And
Speaker 5: so yeah, when you talk about things like Boeing's door
Speaker 5: flying off mid flight, or like the loose bolts. You
Speaker 5: think that these things are just and that's the thing
Speaker 5: like we do as consumers, right, we think these are
Speaker 5: individual incidents, but like our brains are also trained for
Speaker 5: pattern recognition, and it's hard to miss the pattern that
Speaker 5: these things are increasing in rapidity. We see them happening
Speaker 5: across like multiple different sectors, and all of it does
Speaker 5: tie back to. Yeah, this massive period in the eighties
Speaker 5: of deregulation that allowed businesses to kind of start running
Speaker 5: the country as in olive archy. A lot of lambos
Speaker 5: are they have so many lambos. Lambo guys are hurting
Speaker 5: us all. And the boeing guys are Lambo guys too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to let the lambo radicalize us, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Let's swap out Ronald Reagan and
Speaker 2: now we will hold up the Lamborghini Hurrican as our way,
Speaker 2: our entry point into radicalization. Let that be a lesson
Speaker 2: for all the for the youth.
Speaker 5: I feel like one day there's just gonna be a
Speaker 5: Lamborghini on our money. It's just gonna be like we're
Speaker 5: gonna be like praying to the God and the lambau.
Speaker 5: That's what's gonna be on the money. There's gonna be
Speaker 5: like sixteen apartment buildings just like in a cube around
Speaker 5: the Lamborghini, like the same way we have like the
Speaker 5: pyramid with the eye now and it's like this is
Speaker 5: this is our new religion.
Speaker 2: And underneath it's like, Dad, what does this say? It's
Speaker 2: like it's Latin. I don't know to read it out
Speaker 2: to me. E pluribus lambeau. Oh yeah, yeah, that means
Speaker 2: of many lambeau. That's right.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and come back
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2: And we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, and Ted Cruz formally announced that he will
Speaker 1: once again be endorsing the guy who called his wife
Speaker 1: ugly and claimed that his dad killed JFK. Incidentally, he
Speaker 1: has tried to square the circle of his support for
Speaker 1: Trump and recent hears by claiming that both his wife
Speaker 1: and his father laughed when they were slandered by Trump.
Speaker 2: Clearly that his family a lot of joy. He said,
Speaker 2: like it because he got first pressed I think on
Speaker 2: the on the view like in twenty twenty two, and
Speaker 2: the way he was like, they're like, well, so what's up?
Speaker 2: Before you said Donald Trump was a vile man, and
Speaker 2: now you're like, he is the one to lead us
Speaker 2: into blah blah blah. He's like so he was getting
Speaker 2: pressed like so are you lying then or are you
Speaker 2: lying now? And he's like, hey, I reject that question.
Speaker 2: I tell you how he laughed when he said that,
Speaker 2: And my father laughed, by the way too. Well, he
Speaker 2: didn't just kill Kenny's got Jimmy Hoffa's Body's bear in
Speaker 2: the backyard. But I just love the way he tried
Speaker 2: to be like, oh yeah, like no El's taken here.
Speaker 2: We were like he he he ha ha. What do
Speaker 2: you call my wife? Ugly? So, I tell you what,
Speaker 2: we loved it. Vote for him because oh man, the
Speaker 2: amount of people bending the knee again is it's always
Speaker 2: fun to see Like Marco Rubio, he's back, vivid Ramaswami
Speaker 2: is on the fucking stage with him in New Hampshire,
Speaker 2: like on Wednesday morning, like that shit went around so
Speaker 2: quick it was amazing. And then the Babylon b said
Speaker 2: he would be running the White House seven eleven, So
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, wow, how is how's that proximity to
Speaker 2: white Yeah, how's that? How's that working out for you? Fam?
Speaker 1: The main thing though that my main takeaway from the
Speaker 1: Ted Cruise thing is that this is maybe a good
Speaker 1: thing for the country because his endorsements are do seem
Speaker 1: to carry a curse. I don't I don't necessarily believe
Speaker 1: in curses, but I believe in people with fucked up
Speaker 1: energy that just fun that Everyone's like, uh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: this feels weird now that that guy is like in
Speaker 1: the room claim that we're with him. So recently, he
Speaker 1: tweeted his support for the Dallas Cowboys that was over
Speaker 1: the weekend. Sure enough, despite the fact that they were
Speaker 1: favored by a lot one of the biggest upsets in
Speaker 1: recent playoff history. They got like rinsed. They were down
Speaker 1: like twenty seven nothing in a like right away, like right.
Speaker 2: After he tweeted they scored.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh no, I don't think you tweeted about
Speaker 1: the Texans, who this past weekend did the opposite and
Speaker 1: like beat somebody who a lot of people thought they
Speaker 1: were to lose to. He didn't tweet about that. He
Speaker 1: tweeted about the Cowboys and they immediately got destroyed. Fans
Speaker 1: have attributed the loss to Cruz because he has a
Speaker 1: long history of jinxing big games for Texas teams. A
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, he took a lot of heat for
Speaker 1: attending a Texas Longhorns Sugar Bowl game that ended in
Speaker 1: a loss, and like this started years ago. He went
Speaker 1: to the Houston Rockets game seven loss to the Gold
Speaker 1: State Warriors in twenty eighteen, in which the Rockets missed
Speaker 1: a record twenty seven straight three point attempt He's like
Speaker 1: sitting down.
Speaker 2: By the court. They like historic futility.
Speaker 1: I still remember watching that and being like, is there
Speaker 1: a is something wrong? Like is there something on the hoop?
Speaker 1: Like this feels like it is defying physics. How many
Speaker 1: shots these guys are missing in a row.
Speaker 5: I really like this because theoretically this means we could
Speaker 5: weaponize Ted Cruise's curses, right, and this is just a
Speaker 5: world of possibility. We gotta figure out how to best
Speaker 5: utilize the curse of Ted Cruz.
Speaker 2: New research project for you. Yeah, good like because I
Speaker 2: think also to like the twenty nineteen Texas Tech one
Speaker 2: is also amazing, he think is selfie at the NCAA
Speaker 2: Championship game and Texas Tech was up by one point
Speaker 2: with thirty five seconds left. He posted selfie from the
Speaker 2: stands as thirty five seconds, one point lead, go Red
Speaker 2: Raiders number one defense. They lost. Man, everybody was like,
Speaker 2: I blame you Ted Cruz for this, and he just
Speaker 2: he is potent. I mean like there's that's like nine even,
Speaker 2: that's like the just the start. But I think this
Speaker 2: is where it begins to wobble a bit, right is
Speaker 2: with the Astros. Now he's been he's always supported, he's
Speaker 2: always been a big Houston Astros guy. But like this
Speaker 2: year they faced off against the Rangers, and because he
Speaker 2: was there rooting on the Stros, you know, people are like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, what happened? They lost? The Astros lost Game six,
Speaker 2: forcing a game seven, and then they lost and people
Speaker 2: were like, Ted Cruz, please do not go to game seven.
Speaker 2: Please do not go to game seven, because we want
Speaker 2: the Astros to win. Rangers fans are like, Ted Cruz,
Speaker 2: please come to the Rangers and Astros game seven. We
Speaker 2: would love to have you. Please, please, please, sir, please
Speaker 2: make an appearance. And then when they when they like,
Speaker 2: Rolling Stone published the story about this legend of his
Speaker 2: curse of the Cruise Curse on the game. On the
Speaker 2: day of Game seven, he tweeted back, he's like for
Speaker 2: seven years Catherine and I have attended nearly every Astro's
Speaker 2: home playoff game. If they're gonna blame me for our
Speaker 2: recent home losses, please also credit us for two World
Speaker 2: Series Championships. Okay, well you'll cheat it on one of those,
Speaker 2: and seven consecutive alcs is. We were there cheering the
Speaker 2: strolls on, so like in a way, you're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I like, where were you on that one cruise curse?
Speaker 1: But but he was He wasn't like making it a thing.
Speaker 1: He wasn't making it about himself at that time. It's
Speaker 1: like when he puts himself out there, he like energetically
Speaker 1: fucks the team because he is just the least inspiring
Speaker 1: human being possible. So he he went to that game
Speaker 1: seven and they lost eleven to four, and like it
Speaker 1: was a story heading into the game and they were like, wait,
Speaker 1: we're playing for this motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Right like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think they lost on purpose, but like that's
Speaker 1: gonna fuck you up.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Baseball is a weird like mental game where like if
Speaker 1: you're pitching a no hitter, no one's gonna talk to you.
Speaker 1: You don't think that like realizing that, but winning will
Speaker 1: make Ted Cruz happy. Will fuck up your energy, come on.
Speaker 2: Or that Ted Cruz is like rooting for you, You're like,
Speaker 2: fuck ro Ted CRU's room for us? Yeah fuck okay,
Speaker 2: I'm really gonna have to pull this shit together.
Speaker 1: Reportedly, people betting on sports say that you will be
Speaker 1: fifteen and two since twenty seventeen if you're betting the
Speaker 1: money line against teams that Ted Cruz showed up to support.
Speaker 2: See to me, I'm just like that's a lot of ls.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we need like a cameo, but it's like an
Speaker 5: IRL Ted Cruz only cameo and you can like send
Speaker 5: him to your enemies, Like it's like you like hire
Speaker 5: a pox, but it's Ted Cruz. Like why isn't what
Speaker 5: good is capitalism if tech isn't developing this as we speak, right?
Speaker 2: Or just do the thing like if if you're fifteen
Speaker 2: and two betting like against that are betting like against
Speaker 2: the teams that Ted Cruz is supporting, Like we should
Speaker 2: just put together a gigantic fund like a fucking hedge
Speaker 2: fun kind of keep exponentially multiplying the dollars and be like, yo,
Speaker 2: this is a pretty good return and we could do
Speaker 2: a lot of good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Augus forst in the universe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ted Cruz s Ted Cruz is fucking sports tweets. Amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Madeline, I know you have to run. It's
Speaker 1: been such a pleasure having you on the show. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 5: Well, I've got the book, so you can check out
Speaker 5: the book anywhere books are sold, and it is, yes,
Speaker 5: called Iceo rec capitalismhen all I got was a slusy
Speaker 5: T shirt. You can follow me on TikTok. I'm Madeline
Speaker 5: Pendleton there like the whole company. And if you want
Speaker 5: to hear more about things like Ronald Reagan, FBI files
Speaker 5: and conspiracy theories, I have a podcast called pick Me
Speaker 5: Up I'm Scared where we talk about stuff like that
Speaker 5: all the time.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: There you go, And is there a work of media
Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 5: Star Trek, Strange New Worlds and Discovery This is I'm
Speaker 5: a truckie. I'm a truck at heart.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard, uh, Patrick Stewart's coming back as Pookards
Speaker 2: for something.
Speaker 5: There's a Picards show as well. But I think that
Speaker 5: you know, I'm a fan of the Strange New Worlds
Speaker 5: in the Discovery because they do the world building and
Speaker 5: they do the post money world building, which is relevant
Speaker 5: to my interests.
Speaker 2: That sounds very woke. Are there have people come for
Speaker 2: Star Trek yet?
Speaker 5: On the right, I am confident they have. And I
Speaker 5: guess the real question is how many loose bolts are
Speaker 5: flying off of the Discovery as it flies through space
Speaker 5: with this woka gena.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I feel like I would see
Speaker 2: some form with a tweet they're like, man, Star Wars
Speaker 2: is too woke. That's why I'm with Trekky and you're
Speaker 2: like cut to them, being like and this is what
Speaker 2: capitalism did to this society, and you're like like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: are y'all okay? Never mind? Never mind? Never mind. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like they can't.
Speaker 1: You You would be hard pressed to like come in
Speaker 1: and be like Star Trek used to be cool and misogynistic.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm sure there are old episodes, but yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure it has like pretty big deep ideas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they do have big keep ideas. But they did
Speaker 5: do an episode where it was like a horror episode
Speaker 5: in the original series, and it's just they went to
Speaker 5: a planet and at first you thought all the women
Speaker 5: were hot but then it turns out that there was
Speaker 5: some sort of mystical illusion going on, and when you
Speaker 5: got them back to your ship they were real egos
Speaker 5: so seen of the original start. But there was no money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the worst thing possible. Oh we went to planet
Speaker 2: Binge drinking. Oh my goodness, exactly miles where people find you?
Speaker 2: What's working media you've been enjoying? Find me Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 2: at Miles of Gray, find Jack and I in our
Speaker 2: basketball podcast Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. And if
Speaker 2: you love trash reality like me to soothe the wounds
Speaker 2: of society's ills. And you like watching ninety day Fiance,
Speaker 2: check out my other show for twenty day Fiance with
Speaker 2: Sophia Alexandra. A tweet I like is from you know,
Speaker 2: Front of the Show and great one of the legends
Speaker 2: of the show, Andrew t at Andrew t tweeted Costco
Speaker 2: should have like a separate lot where you could sit
Speaker 2: in your car for fifteen minutes and have a little
Speaker 2: bite of your roast chicken, like if you want to.
Speaker 2: And I like that, you know, like, you know, just
Speaker 2: because at Costco people see you get in your car,
Speaker 2: like good, what are you get in the fuck out?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's like, Yo, I'm in
Speaker 2: the chicken lot, man, like you know what I'm about
Speaker 2: to do. I have a little bite of this rock,
Speaker 2: like the cell phone lot at the airport. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
Speaker 1: The tweet I've been enjoying for a long time now
Speaker 1: mister Gorbichev Tear up this ass was Megan Amram and uh,
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Speaker 1: off the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as the song that we think you might enjoy,
Speaker 1: Myles Lits song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: I was going through some old old playlists and I
Speaker 2: and I'm such a fan of this group called the
Speaker 2: Buddos Band because I was definitely in like a little
Speaker 2: Afro b fellaw kooti zone in college and they have
Speaker 2: this album. This is a track called Up from the South.
Speaker 2: They're like a fantastic band. They are actually a lot
Speaker 2: of dudes there. They were like a Daptone band, so
Speaker 2: like you'll know them from a lot of dapt Tone productions,
Speaker 2: but they came together to play their own kind of
Speaker 2: like swag, their kind of afro beat vibe. So check
Speaker 2: this track out. It's really good. Up from the South
Speaker 2: by the Buddos band b U, d Os, B A
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