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Speaker 1: there and then um, you know Quitty with the hamstring

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Speaker 1: all right, Mike Chappell, since we're on the injury thing, Frank,

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Speaker 1: any possibilities with Ty or Elinger, more so Ty this

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Speaker 1: He's making Thank you, George Bremer coach. After watching the tape,

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Speaker 1: were there any opportunities missed, maybe to run the ball

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Speaker 1: because we were not in sync offensively, we had eight

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Speaker 1: We made it difficult for ourselves, but there's plenty of

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