1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is Raheem Moster and this is NFL Players Second 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: Acts Podcast. 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. I'm Peanut to Himan, and this 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: is the NFL Players Second Acts Podcast. I got my 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: guy Roman Harbor with me while you're smiling right now, Rome, 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: because you messed up earlier, I did not mess up. 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: We are fluid. Nobody knows we mess up because this 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: is a podcast. And that's the beauty of podcasting. You 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: can make a mistake recorded tape it nobody would ever know. 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: That's so true, all right, it's true. 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: Well, look, man, make sure you give us a like, 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: click that follow button, give us a couple of comments, 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: all the other things. 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Tell her to tell friend, to tell friend to tell friend. 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 3: Whever you pick up your podcast at with his iHeartRadio, 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: the Apple podcast app. Make sure you get out there 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: listen to us, and a pass the word. Peanut, who's 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: our guest. 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: We got a good one. He's the NFL. He's one 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: of the the NFL's fastest running backs. He had a 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: record breaking season with the Dolphins. He made his first 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. He has his own podcast, call Relentlessly Motivated. 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the podcast Raheem Mostert, 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: what's going on? How y'all doing good? Going good? Great? 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: Also coming off his best NFL season thy touchdowns? 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: Forty? 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Was it forty one? 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: Twenty one? Yeah? I have no idea that's wrong. I 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: was like forty what I thought it was? Eighteen? Rushing? 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: Received to receive it three, receive twenty one. What's one 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: of the things you hope to take out of the 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 2: net of the boot camp? 34 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: You know, just just repetitions. I feel like, you know, 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: getting experience and getting repetitions and understanding what it takes 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: to be a voice and an advocate to you know, 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: the millions of viewers and followers out there and just 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: trying to grow. 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: Well. One lesson I can give you right now was 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: when I first got in this business, I used to 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 2: really get mad at myself and when I made a mistake, 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 2: and Michael Strahan actually gave me this, It was like, Dude, 43 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: when you make a mistake, you gotta laugh at it. 44 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: Everyone thinks we're perfect, but we know we not perfect. 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: And the viewers they love to see when you make 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: a mistake, like the outtakes. We all love a good outtake, 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: Like I just had my mishappen. We laughing at it. 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: That's that's what I thought. You didn't mess up. Next question, 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: Let's go to the next question. Hate this dude. 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: Man, my god, you guys work well. Though I ain't 51 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: gonna compliment each other, it's awesome. 52 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: Appreciated that this is definitely my work wife. Were talking 53 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: to all the times that what am I doing my 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 3: workwife this week? 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: You might be his work wife because you bring a 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: lot of shoes. He's there, it is. 58 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: You're probably correct about that. All right. 59 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: So outside of me trying to I'm we're gonna figure out. 60 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do something for you for your birthday. By 61 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: the end of the day. In this this podcast, you're 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna figure something, have something. 63 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna do something. We're gonna go surfing. Yeah, we'll 64 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: do something. We're gonna go surf. 65 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: He can do that. 66 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: I forgot to say. He got offered a Billy bongill 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: Bill a bong. 68 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: Excuse me, which is a surf surf alternative. I used 69 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: to wear the board teen years old. He got a contract. 70 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: Great board, shorty, you had a contract at fourteen years old? Surf? 71 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, can you. 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get him to get on a surfboard today, 73 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: Like we can go surfing here, you surf I don't, 74 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: but I want to do it with my guy, Like 75 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: we can do it. Let's get it in. 76 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I can teach you all this. It's fairly easy. 77 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: Really, so I only have to pay for a person 78 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: to teach me. 79 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: You no, trust me, I got you all right? 80 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: So how did you how did you? How did you 81 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: pick up surfing? Because you're from New Smyrna, Florida. Yep, 82 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: So how did you pick up or get into surfing? 83 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: Because we talked a little bit before. You said, well, 84 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: I started when I was like eleven twelve, and by 85 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: fourteen I had a contract offered to me. 86 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: Yep. So originally I started skateboarding, okay, and then you know, 87 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: being from where I'm from. 88 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: Uh there, Did you wear airwalks? 89 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 90 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: Okay, got For those that don't know that are too young. 91 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: Airwalks like these old shoes where they're like skate but 92 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: like kind of the original skateboarding shoes. It's like the skateboard. 93 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: If you wore these skateboard, you skateboarded. But these are 94 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: the only people that. 95 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: Wore airwalks, vans were real popular echoes. Those were also 96 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: skateboard and she was hurly. Yeah although so yeah, just 97 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: growing up in the beach town and you know, I 98 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: would skate the streets and everything like that. And and 99 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: then it just I guess I kind of migrated over 100 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: to the beach side where a lot of a lot 101 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: of my friends were and just saw them surfing, and 102 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: I decided to go out there and just learn and 103 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: pick up. One of my good friends is his name 104 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: is Evan goselman Uh. Him and his family have been 105 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, pro surfers since I can remember. And we 106 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: were also you know, classmates, we grew up together, and 107 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: and it's just it's just a wonderful, wonderful thing, you know, 108 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: just being able to pick up that that sport. And 109 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: it's very very different in football, right, you know, you're 110 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: dealing with the ocean, You're dealing with competition. You know, 111 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: you're going up against another couple surfers, and man, you know, 112 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: my thing is I'm all about the beach. You know, 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm a beach bum by heart, and you know that's 114 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: that's what I was gravitated to so understand the surfing. 115 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: And then going out there and competing on the side, 116 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: and Bill Bongs right there as a sponsorship, so they're 117 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we know you can skateboard, let's see 118 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: if you can surf. Went out there and surfed and 119 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: they're like, all right, we're gonna sign you. And I 120 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: had to make a decision if I wanted to do 121 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: that or continue playing football, you know. So I feel 122 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: like I did the right. 123 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: I think I think you. I definitely think you did 124 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: the right thing. And how different do you think your 125 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: life would have been right now? 126 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. You know, I look at I 127 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: look at what my my friend is doing. You know, 128 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: he traveled all over the world. He missed school here 129 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: in there, and he was going to Australia, you know, 130 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: Maui going to Hawaii and all this stuff, and the 131 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: traveling experience is just amazing as a young young person. 132 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: So I would say that's probably the only thing that 133 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: I would miss. But you know, I felt like I 134 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: made the right decision. I went to school, went to 135 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: major university. 136 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: I actually get these. 137 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: I saw you on the the What's the NFL Show? 138 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Hard Knocks, Hard Knocks. During the season, 139 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: I'd loved it right. I think I think your coaches 140 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 3: he's great. 141 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: Different. He is different, He's so different, but it's great 142 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: for TV. 143 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: He and my son's a huge Tyreek Hill fan because 144 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: Tyreek runs fast and he plays Madden, so he's a 145 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: big fan. I went to Alabama, so we rooted for 146 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: TUA as well. And uh, you really showed off your 147 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: beach bump side when you were you took the whole 148 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: fan out. Like being in Miami, how much of advantage 149 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: do you feel like because you're from Florida originally and 150 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: so getting to come back to where like, man, it's 151 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: an ocean around. 152 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 2: You, does it just make me feel better? 153 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: It does? You know? 154 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: I mean because you were in Purdue and it ain't no, 155 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: it ain't up there. 156 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: There's I don't. People ask me all the time, like 157 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: how did you make that transition from you know, being 158 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: from Florida to you know, going to yet Indiana And 159 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you know, sometimes you just got to 160 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: make sacrifices. Yeah, but no, I love it, man. I 161 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: love being back in the home state. Yeah, playing in 162 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: in in the grass, you know, that's kind of like 163 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: what you live for as a player, you know, being 164 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: being able to represent So it was. It's fun, man, 165 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. You know. I was in 166 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: San Francisco for so many years. I was there for 167 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: about six seven years, and so you know I felt 168 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: like that wasn't it was home. You know, I loved it, 169 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's so far. Yeah, it's 170 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: never really home. Yeah, it's never really home. 171 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: So I want to talk about your your experience, all right, 172 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: So and then we'll get to some other stuff. 173 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, went to Purdue, yep, all right. 174 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: Your career Purdue was you were mostly just a kick 175 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: return Yeah, yeah, it was. 176 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: You had more kick return yards than rushing yards. 177 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: I did. 178 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: And I'm like, how did this guy not just kill 179 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: it at Purdue? Like what was going on? 180 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: All right? 181 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: Then you get to the NFL and your first year 182 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: you were with the Jets, the Bears, and the forty 183 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: nine ers. Well no, no, no, you with the Eagles, Dolphins, Ravens, 184 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: and the Browns in twenty fifteen. 185 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a journeyman. I'm like, hold on, hold up, 186 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: this is all one year. 187 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: All one year. Yeah, it was my Well, going back 188 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: to Purdue, I was committed at the time. Danny Hope 189 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: was our head coach. He was a Florida guy, uh huh, 190 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: and pretty much half the roster was from Florida. We 191 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: had about like twenty something my guys from Florida, so 192 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: it kind of felt like I was, you know, back 193 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: at home. And Ricardo Allen, he played for the Falcons, 194 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: got drafted by the Falcons. Yep, he's also one of 195 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: my one of my good friends. I grew up playing 196 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: against him. We went to rival high schools, and he 197 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: was actually committed to Purdue his rookie year. I think 198 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: he was a he was a He was an All 199 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: American as a as a freshman, and you know, I saw, 200 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: I saw what he did. I'm like, you know what, 201 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Purdue and go to the Big 202 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Ten and try that out. And then fast forward, our 203 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: head coach gets fired after my sophomore year, junior year. 204 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: At the time, I was playing receiver. I wasn't even 205 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: a running back. I was a receiver. 206 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I see, you got the wrong info. I 207 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: had forty two like, yeah, it's that's what it is. 208 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: I was originally a receiver and then yeah, I made 209 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: that transition because I felt like the new head coach 210 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: was not rocking with me at receivers. So I made 211 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: the transition to play running back, and first year was good. 212 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: You know, I think it was because of the hype 213 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: of what I did in track, you know, coming off 214 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: of a good track year, won four Big Ten championships, 215 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: two indoor, two outdoor. I went to the national championship 216 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: both indoor and outdoor for those perspective seasons, and there's 217 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: a lot of hype. I was considered the fastest college 218 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: football player at the time, so you know, the head coach, 219 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: I guess he felt like, you know, I should be 220 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: the starter after all that. Then started a couple of 221 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: games my junior year, and then all of a sudden 222 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: got the can, started playing, started playing special teams a 223 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: little bit more, and then same thing with senior year. 224 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: It was the same thing. And you know, we went 225 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: one in ten the first year, and when he was 226 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: a head coach my junior year, and then three and 227 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, three and eight or whatever the second year. 228 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: So it wasn't my senior year, so it wasn't. 229 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: How tough was that, though, Like to have accomplished to 230 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: be so accomplished in one sport another sport, not football, 231 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: but like in track, and then not to get the 232 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: love or recognition like yo, I can do this. 233 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was. It was tough. It's got toss 234 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: what you mentionally, Yeah, because you know, you're my main 235 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: sport was football. I want Forde to go play football. 236 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: I got a scholarship, you know, because of football, and 237 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: so going in it's just like, how do I deal 238 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: with you know, the successive track. Well, I started thinking 239 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: maybe I should go over the track, and it just didn't. 240 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: I felt like it wasn't right because, like I said, 241 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: I just I've been playing football since I was seven, 242 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 1: So it was a little bit easier, but yeah, it was. 243 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: It was tough because I had a head coach that 244 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: I felt like didn't believe in me. And then you know, 245 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: all the accolades came and he felt like he needed to, 246 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, show everybody that he truly cared and that's 247 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: that's what it is. So it was tough mentally, but 248 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'm just continue to play football, 249 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: don't complain, and get a great degree. I'm the first 250 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: in my family to graduate from a major university. Congrats, 251 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate it. So it was that was 252 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. I wanted to be a businessman. 253 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: I went to school at Purdue to major in business management. 254 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: I was able to get that degree. Yeah. So you know, 255 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: just trying to trying to grow, trying to grow as 256 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: a player, and trying to grow as a as a man. 257 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: Do you think all those things that happened you in 258 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: college really what allowed you to maybe go for one, two, three, 259 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: four teams in your first year, then one, two, three 260 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: more the Jets, Bears and forty nine ers and sixteen. 261 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 3: You were like seventeams in a year and a half. Yeah, 262 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: so you were used to not things not going your way. 263 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean coming from where I can, you know, 264 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean like obviously stands back. You know, I've had 265 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: one success story that you know, one person that I 266 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: could I could say was a successful person in our community, 267 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: and that's Dallas Baker play for the Gators. Yeah. 268 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Dallas Baker, the touchdown makerstown maker. Yeah, that's it 269 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: played against him, and we're. 270 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: Actually yeah, we're actually we're relatives. And so I got well, yeah, 271 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: I got to see him and his brother. His brother 272 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: is a big time Perry Perry Baker. He's a big 273 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: time rugby player and So I got to see those guys, 274 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, and in their success, and you know, I'm like, hey, 275 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: why not me? And I guess that's that's the fighting 276 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: attitude that you have to have, especially being on the 277 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: NFL team, you know, me coming in undrafted, I was 278 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: just like, Hey, I'm gonna just put the best I 279 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: possibly can out there and if another team wants to 280 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: pick me up, then so be it. But I'm going 281 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: to continue to grow as a player and as a 282 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: as a person and try to figure this thing out. 283 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: Well, I think you figured it out. I think you've 284 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: landed a home and Miami and I think they like you. 285 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: You're I wish you nothing but success and keep you 286 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: keep doing your thing out there. So this show INNFO 287 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: Player Second Act Podcast our message it really is helping 288 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: or talking to other recently retired NFL players figuring out 289 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: their second act. That's not you. 290 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not yet yet. 291 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: You're far from that. You're far from that. You have 292 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: your own podcast, relentlessly motivated. What is your message to 293 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: your viewers on your podcast. 294 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: Yes, so my message to my viewers on my podcast 295 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: is to to you know, I basically what I do 296 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: is I bring in success stories from different you know, 297 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: athletes or business professionals and just want to share their message. 298 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: You know, how they became who they are, what was 299 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: the journey, what they do, the steps they took. And 300 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: so my message to the viewers is like, you don't 301 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: necessarily have to be a professional athlete or a celebrity 302 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: or anybody in that means. You could be a successful lawyer, doctor, 303 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, any any trade. It doesn't really matter. Whatever 304 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: makes you happy, just go with it. Yeah, And so 305 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: I've been able and I've been blessed to have you know, 306 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: people like Lisa Leslie on the show, Gilbert Burns on 307 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: the show, Amari Hardwick goes soft power as an actor, 308 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: and just hearing their stories. You know, Amari, he shared 309 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: a story where you know, he he literally had a 310 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: dollar to his name and he was living inside of 311 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: a car that was gifted to him. Where he was 312 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: he just he just grew from that, you know. And 313 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Lisa Leslie, you know her coming from and you know 314 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: the hard time she had as a as a female 315 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: athlete and then growing in that aspect. You know, just 316 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: different success stories, and I just want to get the 317 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: viewers to learn and understand that Hey, look like I said, 318 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to be, you know, a celebrity to 319 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: just make it. It's okay to have adverse times and 320 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: grow from that. 321 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: I was going to say, because we heard that on 322 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: your podcast. The way you like to kind of share 323 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: as you're just saying like, well, you know, give a 324 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: like a comment. 325 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: Like comments to subscribe. 326 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't say share, which, according to my guy, 327 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: Cam Newton shout out to Camp who is a podcaster. 328 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, he said, that's what you gotta do. 329 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: You gotta share as well. 330 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: You gotta share as well, so we want to make 331 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: sure we share our little inside information with you. He 332 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: definitely about keep getting them numbers up, you know what 333 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: I mean. 334 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. It's all about what I learned to about 335 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: having a podcast is like it's about consistency, right right. 336 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: I have to be consistent and you have to be 337 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: dialed in. Now I have I have three young boys, 338 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, ages four, three, and one, and and time 339 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: is always consumed by by them and my family, and 340 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: so I'm still trying to figure this thing out. And 341 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: it's it's honestly a blessing too, because I get to 342 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: do it at the house and back back home in Florida. 343 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: I bring guests on and you know, I just just 344 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: talk chopped, you know, and talk it up with them. 345 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: Now I can assume your guests they come on virtually then, right, Yeah. 346 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: Actually have virtual as well, so you know, I have 347 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: different different ways to get you know, guessed on. 348 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: So I was going to ask about the balance of 349 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: that because you do it during the season. 350 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: Do it during the sea, like what days? How often 351 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: are you recording these things? Yes, let us all know. 352 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: And then because we always like to share, and you know, 353 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: people get other likes and other viewerships from from what. 354 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: And I want to know about that balance. 355 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you got three young boys, you're also playing 356 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: professional football, which is a full time job as well. 357 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: People don't realize that it takes a lot. But then 358 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: you're study. You can't just show up for interview. 359 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: You gotta do some research, you gotta do some prep, 360 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: you gotta do some backgrounds. 361 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: I have a great team. Shout out to Mercury. They 362 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: do an unbelievable job because it is getting you know, 363 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: tid bits of information in his chair and I do 364 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: my notes and it's fair. It's it's an easy process. Man. 365 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: They do a wonderful job with that. And I record Wednesdays, Thursdays, 366 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: sometimes Fridays because those are like the easier days in 367 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: schedule in season that you know, I'm able to have 368 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: guests on come over to the house or virtual. And yeah, 369 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: we just we just talked, you know, chop it up 370 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: and like I said, it's it's an easy process. So yeah, 371 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: and then we released the footage the following week. So 372 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: at a time, I'm trying to knock out you know, 373 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: three or four shows at a time each week. 374 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: So we're gonna take a short break and we'll be 375 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: right back. So do you see yourself going into the 376 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: media space full time after you retire, like years and 377 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: years and years from now. 378 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I definitely can. I mean I think that, 379 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's all about you know, building a 380 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: confidence and going out and like I said, doing this 381 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: right now is definitely enlightening because I see you guys 382 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: former players, and what you guys are being able to do, 383 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: you know, on the field, but off the field as well, 384 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: being being able to like connect with other players and 385 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: connect with you know, fans and everything like that. I 386 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: feel like this is definitely another way, you know, I 387 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: could I can grow. Man, I'm happy to be able 388 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: to have this opportunity and just you know, try to 389 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: run with it as best as I can. Look, I'm 390 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: a guy that, you know, once an opportunity presents itself, 391 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: I can't look back, right. I learned that from Darren 392 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: Spros when I first got into the league. 393 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: He Spros. Yeah. 394 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: So when I was with him at the Eagles, one 395 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: thing he told me was like, Hey, look, there's gonna 396 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: be people that's gonna doubt you all the time, you know, 397 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: but once you get that opportunity to never look back 398 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: at it and and just keep pushing for I could say. 399 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 2: That I think that for guy to give that advice too, 400 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: because if y'all don't know Darren Spros, Darren Spros is 401 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: like five seven No, no, he's six okay, oh man, 402 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: and you got mad at me and Tom. 403 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: It's just the truth. I've been to the club with 404 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: Darren Spros. He got to stand on the. 405 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: Couch, got dog, he got to day on the couch. 406 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: He always up there. He love it. That's his spot. 407 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: But he's about to give that great advice to because 408 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: I can only imagine he's only been down in his 409 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: entire life for being five six. Yeah, and he was 410 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: a dominant return man, running back, swing back like just see, 411 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: was great athlete, great speed, work, ethic, quick, you know 412 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: he was you know, he was ten pounds when he 413 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: was a baby. He was born ten pounds. 414 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: That's crazy, ten pound baby, darren Sprolls ten pound baby. 415 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 3: All right, Anyways, I knew just small little things, random, 416 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: not up. Yeah, you're talking about how happy you are, 417 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: and I would understandably, I understand me. So, I mean, 418 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: you're coming off the football season that you just had, Yeah, 419 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: all right, being in a Miami Dolphins single season record 420 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: for touchdowns including rushing touchdowns with all the great they've had, 421 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: Ricky Williams, Larry Zonka, you know, Mercury Morris. You go 422 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: down the list of all the great Dolphins players and 423 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: now you sit the top of all of those and 424 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: you did it at the age of thirty one. Today 425 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: being now you are thirty two years old, how do 426 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 3: you how do you follow up that season? And how 427 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: do you kind of put that in perspective when somebody 428 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: tells you that or ask you. 429 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, how do I follow up with that season? 430 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean I just always have that mindset of one up, 431 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: like what can I do to one up that? 432 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 433 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm always thinking two steps ahead every time, 434 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how I'm gonna get it done. 435 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: I just know if twenty one was a total number, 436 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: now I'm trying to reach for twenty two. And if 437 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: that's the case, I have, you know, a thousand yards 438 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: of my first thousand yard season. How can I get 439 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand or fifteen hundred? You know, So just trying 440 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: to figure out whay is I can one up you know, 441 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: all the stats that I've had so far. 442 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so when I came into the league, I had 443 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: to start out on special teams. Nobody's told you're old, 444 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 3: Jet because you know, when you hit thirty. 445 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: When I in that locker room, it's there, everybody's giving 446 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: me a hard time. Everybody's giving me a hard time. 447 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I even got old heads like Toront Armstead is telling 448 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: me I'm old Stead. That's my dog still telling me 449 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: I'm old. I'm like, come on, man, you just about 450 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: the same age, and you're a pretty only one. 451 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: I went to Carolina, y'all called me old by you. 452 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: I was like thirty three. The NFL terms kind of old. 453 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: It's fine, it's fine. Dog here. 454 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Hey, but hey, listen, though you didn't have the gray 455 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: hairs like him, it's twenty five, and still said he 456 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: was old, Yes, just off the es. 457 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: Yes. And he said it, not even me. That's what's 458 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: so awesome. It's true. It's true. The first time I 459 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: met him, I thought he was a vet and I 460 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: was older than him and didn't even know it. I 461 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: was like, damn, he must have been in the league 462 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: like ten plus and he was like, no, no, this 463 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: is like my second year in the league. And I 464 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: was just like, the stress is real. 465 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: Hey, put how long have you been in the league. 466 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: For I only been retired, bro. He's like, no, no, I'm 467 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: in my second year. I was like what. I went 468 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: to my room and talked so much. It's like, Yo, 469 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 2: this dude is okay. And who would have thought the 470 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: Lord would have brought us together all these years later? 471 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: Not me, me either, but I'm glad he did. 472 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: Though. Yeah, you've been I will say this, you've been 473 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: You've been rocking the gray hairs though, man, thank you. Yeah, 474 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: you've been doing that. 475 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 476 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: It condt you've. 477 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: Been doing it since the appreciate it getting them grades 478 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: since the eighties. But if you got a question, Yeah, 479 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: so I was, but you cut me off. So I 480 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: was talking about special teams, like how you got it? 481 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: You got your your start on special teams. I got 482 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: my song on special teams. I was a gunner and 483 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: I didn't see my first playing playtime really until like 484 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: the fourth game of the season. It takes a dog 485 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: to be on special teams. What can you tell me 486 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 2: about the trade? Tell me what traits you have to 487 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: have to be a special teams player. 488 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: In this league. Well, obviously you have to have, you know, 489 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of wits. I feel like you have to, 490 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, understand technique, especially if I'm a gunner. So yeah, 491 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: I love playing the position fun. 492 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: It's so much fun. 493 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: And nowadays I feel like the young guys don't. 494 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: Like Prima Donover. He didn't play special teams, couldn't do it. 495 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: I'm looking at you, guys, I'm like, yeah, I just 496 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: all that just skipped right over all of it. 497 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, you gotta you, gotta you gotta look. 498 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna say, you have to be 499 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: like crazy little wild. 500 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: You have to. 501 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: Listen though every NFL player, they have something off, there's 502 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: something something is unscrewing in there. Just you know, you 503 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: have to have that as a special teamer. You really 504 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: have to have it because you're going up against guys, 505 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: especially Gunner. Yeah, Gunner, you did double teams. 506 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: And we're not built for that. 507 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm not. I use my speed and leverage. That's all 508 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: I got working for me. So that's that's basically what 509 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: you gotta do in the Gunner world. But you know, 510 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: I tried my best, and you know, I know nowadays 511 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: guys don't don't cherish the position as like like it 512 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: was once, you know, but you just gotta go out 513 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: there and embrace it. 514 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: It's been one of your favorite plays playing Gunner. 515 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: One of my favorite plays. It was actually two thousand 516 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen when I was with San Francisco. We 517 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: were playing the Vikings home and in the playoff game. 518 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: First it was the divisional round, and our punter punted 519 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: the ball and the returner watched the catch and I 520 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: was able to scoop it up, and I felt like 521 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: that was just like and especially it was my first 522 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: time ever playing in the playoffs, so I felt like 523 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: that was just like the moment for me right there. 524 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: I was able to recover the muff punt and fortunately 525 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: our team scored the next play. 526 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, playmaker, I love it. Special Team's Rome. You 527 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: gotta you gotta be you missed out. But man, hopefully 528 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 2: your son, hopefully little Room he can plays a special team. 529 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no, no. 530 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: We I mean he said gonna skip that. 531 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we skip that. Bro, We're good, Like, don't 532 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: even worry about that. It's all good. 533 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 3: And so I want to know this though, Braham, what 534 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: have you learned about yourself personally? Since you know, going 535 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 3: from being an undrafted guy bouncing around teams early in 536 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: your career to then getting finally getting some reps, breaking 537 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: through with the forty nine ers, running the football in 538 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: a little playoff run too. Now you know, being a 539 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: key member of that Super Bowl team when you guys 540 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: went to where now you're setting team records at the 541 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: age of at the young age of thirty one, now 542 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: going into being thirty two in the year you have 543 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: been what what do you know or what have you 544 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: learned about yourself? 545 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? People ask me all the time, like, what's a 546 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: what's you a question? Younger? He would you know ask 547 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: himself if he were to see what he's done so far, 548 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: and you know, one thing or one statement I would 549 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: make is, man, just keep keep grinding. Like you know, 550 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: everybody wants the fortune, they want the fame, right, they 551 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: want the Super Bowl wins, they want the playoff wins. 552 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: But I've always had the aspiration of a gold jacket mindset. 553 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: And so what that means to me is, hey, you know, 554 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: whatever it takes to go and get that gold jacket. Now. 555 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: I know that it might not be the case, you know, 556 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: at least when I'm alive. You know, maybe maybe I'll 557 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: get it someday. But I've always wanted that gold jacket. 558 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: That's that's always been my motivation. Why do you play 559 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: this game? You know, to be mortal, to be recognized 560 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: as one that's immortal. And and for me, that's that 561 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: would be a successful career. That's that's what I you know, 562 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: that's the epitome of being having a successful career. Some people, 563 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: like I said, they like the money. Money's fine, they 564 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: like the fame. Fame is great, But I want to 565 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: be more. I want to be known as a guy 566 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: that you know, you know, never looked back and gave 567 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: everything he got to the game. So you know, I 568 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: always I always want that. That's that's my that's that's 569 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: my little thing. Yeah, that's dope. 570 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: That's like yeah. 571 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: And I will tell you this too, you know. You know, 572 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: so my wife, she's from Cleveland, and you know, Canton, 573 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: Ohio is the where you want to be enshrined. 574 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: Right, Have you ever been there? 575 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna tell you why. Every fourth of July, 576 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, we get that time off. That's the time 577 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: where we we you know, can spend with our families, 578 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: just to consider the second off season. Right, me and 579 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: my wife and her family, we would drive from Cleveland, 580 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: Ohio to Nashville, Tennessee, and on the way we would 581 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: pass Canton, Ohio. And I felt like each and every year, 582 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, since I've been playing, that's always been my routine. 583 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: You know, I passed by just to get the feel of, 584 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, the what it takes to get in there. 585 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: That's that's I like that road trip, That's that's what 586 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 1: I want to do. And so going out there and 587 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: just rying past the Hall of Fame, it just gives 588 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: me that extra boost of confidence that the you know, 589 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: to help myself that that year and I've never been 590 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: in there. I know, we get you know, access to 591 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: as players and former players that go in there anytime 592 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: we want, right, I would love to do that, But 593 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: I feel like the only time I want to be 594 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: in there is when I get the bus, Like you know, 595 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: I get enshrine. It's always been motivation, man, I like that. 596 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different, but you know it's I like that. 597 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: It's cool. I've been here twice, once as a player 598 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: in five and then my second time was when Brian 599 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: Urlacker he got inducted to the Hall of Fame. 600 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: And I mean, and it's nice to go in there 601 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: and experience it, right, I want to someday like, but 602 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: I also wanted to be in there. It's like, you know, 603 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: when you're playing in the Super Bowl, you get tickets 604 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. They give you tickets that you 605 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: got to go and pay for. But as a player, 606 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: do you want to watch two other teams? 607 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: No? 608 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: You don't exactly. It's like, okay, well I'm gonna just 609 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: sell my tickets or I'm gonna just do what I 610 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: gotta do, you know, but you don't want to sit 611 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: in there and watch the game. I mean, if you 612 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: cherish the super Bowl. 613 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: Most people do what you just said. They don't want 614 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: to watch another team play, because if you're not in 615 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: the playoffs or if you're not in the super Bowl, 616 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: you're not trying to go watch two other teams or 617 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: one other team hoisted up the trophy and celebrating like you. Ain't. 618 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: Most of the good ones, most of the like the 619 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: the guys with the grit and the attitude, were not 620 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: trying to do that. So yeah, yeah, yeah, saying. 621 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: So that's that's how I feel about going. 622 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: And ken right, I got the Hall of Fame. 623 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to go, and I don't want to 624 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: step foot in there until I know I'm in there, right, So. 625 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: Well, one day if you go. I think it's just 626 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: really cool. Some of the old school stuff they have 627 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: in there. Yeah, like what the players used to wear 628 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: to like weird stuff. Now I fall off like they had, 629 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: like it was a whole onesie with a cut. 630 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's weird. He's they love the helmets something, 631 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: put them in their back pocket and go to work. 632 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: It was like, weird. All right, it's crazy. We'll be 633 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: right back. I got I got one for you. Everybody 634 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: has that. Welcome to the NFL moment where they didn't 635 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: get smacked in the jaw, whether they got to pay 636 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: for a bill at the rookie dinner, or they got 637 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: to stand up and sing a song at training camp, 638 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: or they get tossed in a cold tub, whatever, what 639 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: was your welcome to the NFL moment? 640 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: You know, being being as though I've been on so many, 641 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: so many, you got a bunch of them. No, I 642 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: don't have any of them for real. Besides funny story. 643 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: I brought it up a couple of years ago to 644 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: Kyle yust Check. I was with Baltimore. He was there, 645 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: and he's we're all in the you know, running back room. 646 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: And the only time I had to welcome to NFL 647 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: moment is when he made me pay for Chick fil a. 648 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: That's that's the only moment I got. 649 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: That's it easy. 650 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: That came off easy. 651 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: You got off easy. But it's twenty bucks. 652 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: But think about this, though, as an undrafted guy like 653 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: I got undrafted in Philly, and the taxes out there 654 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: in Philly are crazy. My signing bonus was five thousand dollars. 655 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: That's more than what Chris Harris had doubt he. 656 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: Had house said, But taxes out there in Philly. It 657 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 1: only been ended up being fifteen hundred. 658 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 2: Okay, so you need no one made you buy him 659 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: a cheese steak or nothing. 660 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: No, all I had to do was just buy a 661 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: couple of rounds of Chipotle. 662 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: So, like, what do you do when you get fifteen 663 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: hundred dollars from the NFL? Like, what do you do? 664 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: You know what I did? 665 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: Like that's less than the scholarship, chick. 666 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: So listen, I don't know what I did with my 667 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred. I knew of a. So my former teammate 668 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: at Purdue, he's from Philly and his family's from Philly. 669 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: They introduced me to a financial advisor. And the financial 670 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: advisor was like, hey, look, I know you got fifteen 671 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. You give me that fifteen hundred. I promise 672 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: you you won't have to pay me ever again. And 673 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: I've been with him since this day, the company to 674 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: this day. 675 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: Great investment. 676 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so they helped me up with four one 677 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: ks and you know all this other stuff and benefits 678 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: and everything like that life insurance. I use that money 679 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: to just pay for them. Oh so yeah, it was 680 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: I was the best money spent right there. Yeah, money spend. 681 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: They helped me say save my life. 682 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: Like that, so I got I got to know them. 683 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: For you. We asked this question to a lot of 684 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: our guys Mount Rushmore. Who's on your personal Mount Rushmore 685 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: of helping you getting you to this place? Teammates, family, coaches, Yeah, 686 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: who who's on your personal Mount Rushmore? 687 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: Personal route? Mount Rushmore? Okay four just in case, Yeah, four, 688 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: I would say first, my see, I would consider my 689 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: wife and family, her parents, and that's one on you 690 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: can do this. So wife and her her family, her 691 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: mom and dad. They looked out for me when I 692 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: barely had a dondo my name in college. When did 693 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: you meet your wife in college? Freshman year of college? 694 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: And we started dating second semester and been yeah, thirteen 695 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: years strong. So herd her parents. Actually my my first 696 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: ever pop watch. He passed away the year I went 697 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, so he was he didn't make 698 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: it to the super Bowl that year. Back in our 699 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: hometown or our home state, coach Port Chop Mike Stokes. Yeah, 700 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: he brought me in as a little kid and and 701 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: he helped raise me, you know, show me what it 702 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: what it means to be a man. So definitely have 703 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: him up there had the running backs coach at the 704 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, Bobby Turner throwback. Yeah, he's he helped 705 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: me gross much as a player, so much as a player, 706 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: And what did. 707 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: He teach that other running back coaches hadn't taught you? 708 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: Details? Details. He was so detail oriented. I mean even today, 709 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm texting Christian McCaffrey last year and he's like, man, 710 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: Bobby t is just he's so detailed about everything. And 711 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I went through the same thing, brother, 712 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's the same guy that like, if 713 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: you step wrong, he's give me another back, like instantly 714 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: put somebody else in. I don't I don't care who 715 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: it is. It's not this Joe. They'll tell you how 716 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: it is. 717 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: You're accountable. 718 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: Hold you're accountable. So definitely have to have that. 719 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: That's so not to cut you off, but that's so 720 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: interesting to me because a lot of people say running 721 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: back is the easiest position to play, because how do 722 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 3: you teach your running back to run? Like they just 723 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 3: you just run and you know where you start at, 724 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 3: and then that's they just do what they do. 725 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: It's but to hear. 726 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: You say, actually, is a running back coach. That's so detailed. 727 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 3: Orient Yeah, all the little things that most people don't 728 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: ever talk about running backs. 729 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: I mean think about it, like if you're in this 730 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: scheme right, like you guys play defense, Like if you're 731 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: in a scheme and you have one step that's off, 732 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: that can cost you, you know, a receiver going deep 733 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: or a mistackle just by one minute step. Right. It's 734 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: the same thing as running back in a certain scheme, 735 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: like the Kyle Shanahan scheme. You know, you have to 736 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: have the right foot and you have to be able to, 737 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, make that transition. And he's been in it 738 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: so long with this. He was with Mike Shanahan in 739 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: Denver and that's where you know he took off. So 740 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: and you see what he did with Terrell Davis. You 741 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: know he was Orlandis Gary, a bunch of guys, Clint Porters, 742 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, he had Clint Porters at his peak. 743 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 3: Was Otis Anderson too. No, that was with the Giants 744 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 3: way back. Sorry there's another guy too in that group. 745 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 3: But sorry, your last guy. 746 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: On my last person on my Mount Rushmore. I mean 747 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: it would be obviously be my current running back coach 748 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: to Eric Stewsville, he's awesome. He's just like Bobby T 749 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: but a younger version. But he's also you know, he 750 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: wants the best for his players. So I have two 751 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: coaches that are up there for sure. 752 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, man, thank you for coming on the show. Yeah, 753 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 2: I appreciate you all having you did that. Man, you 754 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: did awesome. 755 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 3: It wasn't as good as your last football season, but 756 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: it was good as good as your last season. 757 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: Thanks for blessing us though. Man, natural this podcast the thing, 758 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: you know, thanks for. 759 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: If y'all ever want me on this thing, man, I mean, 760 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: I'm I'm all ears. We can always talk to talk 761 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: it up. Man. 762 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: We'd like to bring on guests for a second time 763 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 2: every now and then. 764 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think what you guys are doing is unbelievable, 765 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, the whole you know, players second act. You 766 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: guys are really trying to reach out and help guys 767 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, on the field like myself and off the 768 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: field that will retire. So you guys are doing it, man, 769 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: and it's pretty enlightening. There's hope, there's always gonna be hoped. 770 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, I think the most enlightening thing that 771 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 3: I've learned by doing this podcast is that there is 772 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 3: no there are no directions, There is no one way 773 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 3: to do anything. Yeah, especially in the quote unquote second 774 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: acts terms where a lot of guys leave this sport 775 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: not usually on their own terms. And so coming to 776 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: realization of that, then you have family aspects, you have 777 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 3: all these other dynamics that are going on, and not 778 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: everybody's healthy mentally as well. 779 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: So how we all deal with it? 780 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 3: Man, It's been really cool to try and hear everybody 781 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: else's story and to get you know, also about how 782 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 3: we get to where we are. That really shows you 783 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: the other side, like getting to know like I didn't 784 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 3: know you were from Florida. Now you're finally back in Florida, 785 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 3: you know, after going to Purdue where you had more 786 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: kick return yards than actually rushing yards. 787 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: And so it's like all of these things. 788 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: You learn about these players who we just sit back 789 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 3: and root for nowadays that man we look up and man, 790 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 3: there's so much more than just a person behind the helmet. 791 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,479 Speaker 2: Man, they're great people. 792 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: Now let me ask you guys this question. What was 793 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: like a transition that you guys, like, what was like 794 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: an adverse moments in regards to like playing and then 795 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: having that transition, like what was one of those things 796 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: where you had to learn from, like what helped you either. 797 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: One I think for me was if I could go 798 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 2: back and do it again, I just would have I 799 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 2: think I would have spoke more. I think I would 800 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: have reached out the room when I retired, or reached 801 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: out to one of my other friends who was already 802 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: retired a dub and I just kind of would have 803 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 2: spoke about how I was handling my retirement. You know, 804 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: like Rome said, when we leave this game, you leave 805 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 2: the sport. Nobody ever leaves on their own term. You know, 806 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 2: football retires you you don't retire from football. And I 807 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 2: personally felt like I had more football left in me, 808 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 2: but my body was like, no, you don't, you know, 809 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: with that torn ACL So I think I just would 810 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: have reached out more to some of my friends and 811 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: just been like, man, I'm kind of struggling in this 812 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 2: space right now, just being retired, because you go from 813 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 2: playing football from the time you were seven Pop Warner 814 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: till you're in your thirty so you're you're playing football 815 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: twenty something years, and then one day it just stops 816 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: and you gotta just kind of like Okay, now what 817 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 2: do I do? And I had a job, I had 818 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 2: stuff lined up for me. But I don't care who 819 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: you are, you still everyone will will will go through 820 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: like what you got. I don't even call it the 821 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 2: what if. I think you have to grieve your career. 822 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: It's like a death and you have to grieve it. 823 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 2: And I think my biggest struggles I didn't grieve my death. 824 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: I just tried to play it off like everything was cool. 825 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 2: So if I could go back and do it again, 826 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,479 Speaker 2: I took I would have taken some time like Rome, 827 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 2: and I just would have just grieve football and got 828 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 2: over it and just handled it and then went on 829 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 2: about my life and did something else or did what 830 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to do. 831 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 3: And I went with him. I went all the way 832 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: on the other side end of the spectrum, took three 833 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty five days and did absolutely nothing. So 834 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 3: it's like whatever I don't get done today, I'll do 835 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: it tomorrow. And it kind of got like kind of 836 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: repetitive to where it was like, dude, I need to 837 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 3: do something, like I was like not doing anything, and 838 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 3: so it got like all right, I got to pick 839 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 3: myself up. What am I gonna do with my life 840 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 3: now because I poured everything I had into football, and 841 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 3: then when you have all these other distraction things like na, nah, 842 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 3: I'm a football player, so like I'm gonna really do that, 843 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 3: and then instead of I maybe should have maybe put 844 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 3: a couple embers and some other fires, but I didn't. 845 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,479 Speaker 3: And so after that three hundred and sixty five days, 846 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 3: I really had to kind of find myself and be 847 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 3: honest with you. Coming to this thing, this broadcast boot camp, 848 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: well it's called the Broadcast Workshop now help put me 849 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 3: in position to baby I could find, Oh, I do 850 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 3: like doing to being in this media space a little 851 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 3: bit more. And you guys are gonna go through a 852 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 3: lot of different ringers. You're gonna go through the radio, 853 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 3: You're gonna go through a little bit of podcasts, you're 854 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 3: gonna do some TV stuff, some live game action. So 855 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: and you'll figure all these things out and you'll realize, like, oh, man, 856 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: you to like it. You don't, but it's great that 857 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 3: you're doing it while you're still playing. I did it 858 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 3: a year into my retirement and and I'm doing it now, 859 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 3: so it's good. But I think it's a great question, man, 860 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: And really just starting to have these conversations is what 861 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: leads you to be in a more successful retirement area 862 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 3: because you don't go into it as dark as we did. 863 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And that's the thing that I'm starting to 864 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: realize too, is like you know, I was once you 865 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't speak about, you know, what I 866 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: wanted to do, and it was tough for me to 867 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: communicate with people until I actually started. You know, Hey, 868 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: this is what you gotta do. You got to you 869 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: gotta start, you know, having conversations, being comfortable, you know, 870 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: being comfortable with yourself. And you know, fortunately I'm still able. 871 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm going into year ten. I'm still able to continue 872 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 1: to play you know, a little bit while a little 873 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 1: bit longer. But I know I have to make that 874 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: transition where I have to grieve a little bit about 875 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: football because I've done it for so many years that 876 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: now I'm you know, I got to understand what's the 877 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,919 Speaker 1: next chapter of my life. And I've feel like doing 878 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: this type of stuff is definitely gonna help me, you know, 879 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: and I'm already doing it with my own podcasts. But 880 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: like you said, to your point where you really have 881 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: to figure out you know, hey, yeah, I do want 882 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: to take a break from you know, not doing anything 883 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: for my good three sixty five and then you know, 884 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be bored. But I gotta figure out what's 885 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: the next objective. And for me, I feel like I'm 886 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: putting embers in different fires, like a real estate and 887 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, being a part owner of a roof and 888 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: company down in South Florida. So there's a lot of 889 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: different things that I feel like it's going well for me, 890 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: but like I'm always still trying to grow and learn, 891 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: and I feel like you guys are just you know, 892 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: you guys are the epitome right now. You're what you're doing. 893 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: I see what you guys are doing. This is not 894 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: my first time, you know, knowing about you guys. I've 895 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 1: watched your show and everything, so appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, 896 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: it's just like I see these guys, and this would be. 897 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 3: My last little bit of advice, is that you putting 898 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 3: these embers and all these other things. It'll never scratch 899 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: at It's completely yeah right, it'll never right, but it 900 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 3: will afford you some time to figure out what you 901 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 3: want to do next, you know what I mean, which 902 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 3: is a blessing. And so just realize that as well, 903 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 3: Peanut Man, you want to get us out here. Rahem Man, 904 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: appreciate it, Bro appreciate You're great. 905 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, that was awesome. Yeah, that's the NFL Player 906 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 2: second X Podcast. Thank y'all for listening. Please share. 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