1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Benky's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. From to nine, Germany was divided into two blocks, 7 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: the Soviet run Eastern Block and the more capitalistic Western Block. 8 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: In the East, democracy was all but obliterated, with heavy 9 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: restrictions placed on what media and political ideologies were allowed. 10 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: The press was an extension of the states, serving as 11 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: a propaganda machine for the Communist Party. Anyone who spoke 12 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: out against those in power were silenced. For people living 13 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: in the Eastern Block, times were dark, which is why 14 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: so many tried to flee. Unfortunately, the border between East 15 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: and West Germany was almost impenetrable. Not only were armed 16 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: guards stationed along the various walls and fences separating the 17 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 1: two sides, but they were all manner of deterrence, waiting 18 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: for anyone who dared to try to climb over. Barbed 19 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: wire was a common sight. As we're watch towers where 20 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: guards would keep an eye on activity and shine searchlights 21 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: on anyone they thought trying to cross. Ten thousand people 22 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: attempted to escape the Eastern Block. Nearly a thousand of 23 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: them died trying. But two families tried to get out 24 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, and they did it in the 25 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: most unique and dangerous way possible. The plan was hatched 26 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: by two men, electrician Peter Strelzek and Gunter Wetzel, who 27 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: worked as a bricklayer. They had talked many times over 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: the years about how they wanted to escape the Eastern Bloc, 29 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: concocting various schemes to get past the border. They were 30 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: mental x sizes more than true actual plans, the way 31 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: two people might talk about committing the perfect crime for fun. 32 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: But it wasn't until March of ninety eight when true 33 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: inspiration hit. Gunter's sister in law had moved out of 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: East Germany in the late fifties, but had come back 35 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: to see family. She'd brought with her a magazine featuring 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: an article about a yearly festival held in the southwestern 37 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: United States. The celebrations centered around a certain mode of transportation, 38 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: and it gave the bricklayer an idea. He showed his 39 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: friend the article, and the two men agreed that was 40 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: how they were getting out. Unfortunately, though they were good 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: with their hands, the men had never built such a 42 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: device before. They traveled to their town's library for more information. 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: Studying whatever books were available on the subject, they determined 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: that they would need three thousand square feet of fabric, 45 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: an amount that would have set off alarm bells within 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: the state. To avoid trouble, they went to a store 47 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: thirty miles away and told the clerk they had started 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: a camping club. The fabric was to make tense, and 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: apparently that was enough. Gunter took on the duty of 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: stitching all the fabric together, spending two weeks in his 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: bedroom behind his mother's sewing machine. Meanwhile, Peter was tasked 52 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: with creating a power source and something to carry everyone in. 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: He took two bottles of liquid propane and connected them 54 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: with hoses that fed to a nozzle of his own design. 55 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: Then he welded a five foot square metal plate to 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: a few support beams, which was enough to hold a 57 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: family of four. When they put their respective projects together, 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: it was clear that Peter and Gunter had created something cool. 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Well hots actually a hot air balloon. They tested the 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: balloon in April of ninety eight, driving out to an 61 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: open clearing far from the watchful eyes of the state. 62 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: They tried to fill the balloon with hot air by 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: igniting the liquid propane, but it refused to inflate. The 64 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: fabric was too porous to hold the gas inside. Sealing 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: it didn't work either, so they returned home, where they 66 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: incinerated the balloon to eliminate the evidence before getting back 67 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: to work on version two point oh. After testing several 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: of waterproof and nonporous fabrics, they settled on an inexpensive 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: form of synthetic taffada. This time they traveled to a 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: different store and claimed that they were part of a 71 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: sailing club using the taffata to make sales for boats, 72 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: and once again no one saw any issue was selling 73 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: thousands of feet of fabric to two random guys off 74 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: the street. One week later, the second balloon was ready 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: for testing. Peter and Gunter turned to the field that 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: night and hooked their taffeta creation to the gondola Peter 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: had put together. Everything worked as they had hoped. The 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: fire filled the fabric with gas, lifting the whole contraption 79 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: off the ground. With a little more tinkering to make 80 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: sure the fuel didn't run out too quickly, the men 81 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: were ready to make their great escape. The time finally came. 82 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: On the night of July three nine. Peter gathered his 83 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: wife and two sons and set up in an abandoned field. 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: The balloon carried them high into the air to an 85 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: altitude of nearly seven thousand feet. Freedom was only a 86 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: few hundred feet away. Without warning, though, a gust of 87 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: wind pushed the family into a cloud. The water vapor 88 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: weighed the taffeta down, bringing the balloon back to earth 89 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: just shy of the border. The strelsas abandoned the downcraft 90 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: and made their way on foot back home, which was 91 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: over ten miles away. The authorities found the homemade hot 92 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: air balloon a few hours later, and it was clear 93 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: that if Peter and Gunter were going to make it 94 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: out alive, they had to act fast. They bought up 95 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: small bundles of taffota from all over East Germany to 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: throw investigators off the trail, and fabricated a new balloon 97 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: that was twice as large as the original. The new 98 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: gondola was also constructed as well, one that could support 99 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: the weight of more fuel and two families. They completed 100 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: the new balloon just over a month later, and on 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: September fifteenth, they took the only chance that they would 102 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: get to put it to use. Both families left their 103 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 1: homes and belongings behind. They drove to the launch sites 104 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: and inflated the balloon just after one thirty in the morning. 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: As it lifted into the air, the gondola tip to 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: one side and the burners set the fabric on fire. 107 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: One of the men had brought a fire extinguisher to 108 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: quickly put out the floor him, but the problems only 109 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: compounded from there. Next, the fabric, ripped in the hot 110 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: air began to leak out, while a strong wind kept 111 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: blowing out the burners, which had to be re lit. 112 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: It seemed like their escape plan was destined to fail, 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: and then ten minutes after takeoff, the balloon finally reached 114 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: an altitude of six thousand, six hundred feet. It was 115 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: cold up there, very cold, with temperatures dropping to about 116 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: seventeen degrees fahrenheit. As they floated toward the border, huddling 117 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: for warmth. Authorities below realized something was going on and 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: turned on spotlights to try and catch them. Gunter, refusing 119 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: to give up, cranked up the heat. The balloons soared 120 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: upward another fourteen hundred feet, well out of range of 121 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: the lights. They only had enough fuel for a short trip. 122 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: The balloon descended rapidly and came down hard on the 123 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: ground half an hour after they'd taken off. Gunter even 124 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: broke his leg on impact. By the time all was 125 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: said and done, Peter and Gunter's homemade balloon had traveled 126 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: a whopping fifteen and a half mile. Shortly after landing, 127 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: a police car pulled up to the crash site and 128 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: found Peter and Gunter standing in the road. One of 129 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: the men asked the officers, are we in the West? 130 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: They were. The balloon had taken them across the border, 131 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: out of the Eastern Bloc and into West Germany. After 132 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: word got out about their daring escape, East Germany placed 133 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: drastic limitations on how much fabric could be purchased by individuals, 134 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: and anyone who wanted to buy propane had to register 135 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: at first. But the Strelsas and the wet Cels didn't 136 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: have to worry about that anymore. They had beaten the 137 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: odds risked everything for life and liberty by traveling up 138 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: up in a way and their beautiful hot air balloon. 139 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: Thomas Edison is known today as a great inventor, from 140 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: the light bulb to the phonograph. There's no doubt that 141 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Edison's work has made an indelible impression on the world 142 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: as a whole. However, for all the good he did, 143 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: there was also plenty that he accomplished that was questionable. 144 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes it even delved into illegal and immoral territory. For example, 145 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: he once drafted a pr campaign to prove that Nikola 146 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: Tesla's new A C current was unsafe compared to his 147 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: own DC current. To do this, he electrocuted several animals 148 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: using AC power, including a five ton circus elephant known 149 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: as Topsy. Edison was also greedy. One of his first inventions, 150 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: an electric voting machine, was meant to make the act 151 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: of voting faster and more efficient. At the time, many 152 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: votes were often cast orally, with voters calling out YEA 153 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: or nay to mark their choice. Unfortunately, no state or 154 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: local government wanted to use Edison's machine because it was 155 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: just too fast. It would keep politicians from campaigning between 156 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: each vote, so Edison decided to use his inventing prowess 157 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: for only two reasons. An invention had to serve a purpose, 158 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: and it had to make him money. One of his 159 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: most success full endeavors was the Kintograph, built in eighteen ninety. 160 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: It was an evolution of what Leland Stratford had created 161 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy seven, where he lined up twenty four 162 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: still cameras along a race track and outfitted each of 163 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: them with a trip wire. Stanford then had a horse 164 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: run around the track, with each tripped wire triggering a 165 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: camera's shutter. When the photos were arranged in sequence, it 166 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: looked like the horse was running. Edison's creation, however, used 167 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,119 Speaker 1: a newer kind of film made of celluloid, a flammable 168 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: type of plastic. To better demonstrate the superiority of the Kintograph, 169 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: he built a movie studio near his lab, which he 170 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: called the Black Maria. It was aptly named, looking like 171 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: a big black cabin in the middle of West Orange, 172 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: New Jersey. What made it special was its ingenious way 173 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: of allowing Edison to film practically all day long. The 174 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: Black Maria sat on wheels that rotated by fifteen degrees 175 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: every hour. This allowed Edison to capture as much sunlight 176 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: as possible throughout the day. To let end even more lights, 177 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: he would often open the retract a bowl roof. Edison 178 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: owned three studios across New Jersey and New York, cornering 179 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: the East coast moving picture market that he helped create. 180 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Of course, with success came competition, and Edison made sure 181 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: that he nipped that in the bud before it ever 182 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: got out of hand. He joined forces with several other 183 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: motion picture patent holders, including Eastman Kodak, and formed the 184 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: Motion Picture Patents Company, or mp PC. The mp PC 185 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: owned so many industry specific patents that any independent studio 186 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: caught trying to make a movie without permission would find 187 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: themselves on the receiving end of a lawsuit. Sometimes local 188 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: mobsters were brought in to let the directors know who 189 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: was in charge. One studio bore the brunt of nearly 190 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: three hundred lawsuits all by itself. It seemed that nobody 191 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: could make inroads in what was becoming a lucrative industry, 192 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: so independent artists started looking elsewhere to make their movies. 193 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: One such place ended up becoming the perfect location for 194 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: their new operation. It was warm all year had dependable weather, 195 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: and its court system was far more forgiving towards small 196 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: business owners than Edison's trust of patent holders. Around nineteen 197 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: o eight, five years after the town was incorporated, the 198 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: first studios began moving to this oasis of entertainment, and 199 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: as they started making movies again, the lawsuits quickly followed. 200 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't until seven years later when things finally changed. 201 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: A civil suit was filed against the Motion Picture Patents Company, 202 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: and the courts found that Edison's trust was in violation 203 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: of the Sherman Antitrust Act of eighteen ninety. The mp 204 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: PC could no longer use its collection of patents to 205 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: stop competition or end another filmmaker's business. Edison had lost 206 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: his monopoly on making movies, which allowed other studios to 207 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: soar to new heights. The inventor closed down his studio 208 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: shortly after the ruling, but he shouldn't have been too discouraged. 209 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: After all, if it wasn't for Thomas Edison's greed, those 210 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: competing film studios would never have moved west to a 211 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: sleepy little hamlet in the middle of Los Angeles. Kel 212 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: A Warnia, the Wizard of Menlo Park, accidentally invented one 213 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: of the longest lasting and most successful industries in history, Hollywood. 214 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet 215 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts, or learn 216 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: more about the show by visiting Curiosities podcast dot com. 217 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: The show was created by me Aaron Mankey in partnership 218 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: with how Stuff Works. 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