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Speaker 4: of your podcast. Listen, and we've got all sorts of

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Speaker 4: fun stuff to get into here on the show. As

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Speaker 4: we are live from Houston, Texas. We were at the

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Speaker 4: O'Reilly's meet and greet last night. Met a lot of

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Speaker 4: great listeners, Yeah, a lot of fine folks who came

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Speaker 4: out and having.

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Speaker 3: A good time. And we peeked through the curtain.

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Speaker 4: Brady and I gout there and peeked through the curtain

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Speaker 4: and realized, oh, there really are five thousand people here

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Speaker 5: That might have been the biggest I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you call a convention national event for a company I've

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Speaker 5: ever seen. I mean, I said it walking before we

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Speaker 5: went out. I feel bad for the dudes chairs, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: huge ass room.

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Speaker 3: But it's cool.

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Speaker 4: They have a so they basically open up to paint

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Speaker 3: Got Papa shot corn hole.

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Speaker 4: They've got mini golf like beer stands everywhere, like all

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Speaker 3: Which you we were almost gonna have you test the mic? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: what would you have saying if you would have got

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Speaker 3: up there? Probably a little stone temble pilots uh song?

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Speaker 3: Can we can we hear some? Can you?

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Speaker 3: How does that even? I forget plush.

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Speaker 4: It's the one that's my intro song in our one

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Speaker 3: Where to go, you go, there you go, that's where

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Speaker 3: you and these are the disser.

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Speaker 1: Don't get carried away. I say it's not bad. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I'd probably go something like that. But

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Speaker 4: it's it's cool and they and they do it every year,

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Speaker 4: think some guys are saying last night they're going to

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Speaker 3: You know, running these stores and the business they do.

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Speaker 4: And and it's if you were out there looking to

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Speaker 4: customer service, the customer service. If that's a representation of

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Speaker 1: Make They were some genuine folks man. Yeah, and they're

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Speaker 1: We know that they were there, you know, obviously clamoring

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Speaker 4: You know when one guy came up and he's like,

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Speaker 3: He's all I want to go over to I want

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Speaker 4: I want to know if he if he really stands

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Speaker 5: Him really what happened, like behind the scenes stuff, and

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Speaker 5: I went into it.

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Speaker 3: So uh no, everyone was awesome. Man. It was cool.

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Speaker 5: And look even if like people were like, hey, I

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Speaker 3: It was. It was nice. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Talk about something that, Like I've had on the rundown

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Speaker 5: talking about golf, all right, but there have been some big,

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Speaker 5: like major movements. Yeah, they're all defecting going from Live

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Speaker 5: Golf is coming over the PJA coming back. They're coming

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Speaker 3: Come on, wake up, Jay, wake up jay, come on player,

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Speaker 5: They're looking at it like, well, I would have gone

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Speaker 3: Now, there are certain stipulations. Does that live golf? What

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Speaker 3: It's great for the PGA Tour.

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Speaker 5: It's great for the sport of golf to get back

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Speaker 5: if you're going to be out, Yeah, because the field

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Speaker 4: The who is the golfer who said if I, if

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Speaker 3: Well, then you should have did it. Look I know,

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, this right here is the problem. This has

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Speaker 5: Can throw money at things all you want, because that's

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Speaker 3: To what happened? Like do we know what happened? Why

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Speaker 5: I think ultimately guys got tired of not being able

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Speaker 3: That it's different. They don't play as much. You're playing

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Speaker 1: Too, And so they realized that as players then just

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Speaker 5: And also I think when they went to renew the

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Speaker 4: It's also like you grew up rooting for golf, you

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Speaker 5: But if you don't win enough, like you're losing money,

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Speaker 5: you eat what you kill. So if you weren't doing

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just and I know, I get why people

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Speaker 4: backing the Live for and the Saudi involvement, and.

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Speaker 3: I okay, hold on, but where where do we draw

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Speaker 5: Because now we've got this whole football league happening over there,

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Speaker 3: Doing boxing matches.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and my, my, my old thing is if you

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Speaker 4: want to follow the breadcrumbs back to where the money

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Speaker 3: You're gonna find some dark, deep dark secrets.

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Speaker 4: Like half is to wear Nike stuff at that's anything

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Speaker 4: these iPhones were built, right, Do some do some research

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Speaker 3: It's like, it's not it's not nice out there, man, Like.

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Speaker 4: It's like a lot of people will eat a cheeseburger,

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Speaker 4: but they're not putting a bullet in a cow's head.

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Speaker 3: It's just like you can go back to where everything

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Speaker 3: It is, I don't know, that I could do that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've hunted before, but something feels different about

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Just visit Foxsports Radio dot com to check out the

444
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Speaker 3: leader board. It's all there. Boy, there, you go check

445
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Speaker 3: it out. But again, congratulations to the great Carry Road,

446
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: Carry Roads. Why is it the great Andy Furman and

447
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 3: just Carrie Roads? Why can't it be car I was

448
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 3: calling them both great. I just didn't want to say no,

449
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 3: you didn't. You only call it one of them.

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Speaker 5: He brings up a good point though, if they were

451
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Speaker 5: both the great and you got them both like you're

452
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Speaker 5: not gonna say the great Andy Ferman, the great Carry Roads.

453
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Speaker 3: You say the greats I don't like. Do you have

454
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Speaker 3: favorites Jonas Lareena? Am I am I saying it wrong? Well,

455
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Speaker 3: I mean you are.

456
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Speaker 2: Every day that you've done the read, you have said

457
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Speaker 2: Andy Ferman first, and you do say my guy.

458
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Speaker 3: Does begin with an A though, so he alphabetically would

459
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Speaker 3: be first.

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Speaker 8: I have an update to both of their brackets of

461
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Speaker 8: who they have winning at all. It is split here.

462
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 8: One's got Miami, one's got Indiana, so we will have

463
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Speaker 8: a true winner.

464
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Speaker 3: Got bet you carry Rose Miami AND's got no.

465
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Speaker 8: Andy's got Miami, and then Carry's got Indiana.

466
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Speaker 3: It would have been.

467
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Speaker 1: Way more fun if it was the other way around.

468
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Speaker 1: But it's very interesting.

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Speaker 3: You want to know why.

470
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Speaker 4: It's probably out of guilt because we had Jim lair

471
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Speaker 4: and Agon one time, but he was coaching Miami basketball

472
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Speaker 4: and Andy Furman on the air goes, you know, coach,

473
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Speaker 4: I gotta ask you, what's with all the great Italian coaches?

474
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 4: You got kind of second Patino and Calipari and he goes, well,

475
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Speaker 4: I don't know, Andy, I'm Cuban. It's like the record

476
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Speaker 4: players and Mike Mike Dors like Mike dorks Like nice job, Andy,

477
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Speaker 4: Wait to go bud.

478
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Speaker 3: About now it makes sense. That's amazing. That's why you

479
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Speaker 3: coached at Miami. Probably had a guilt fan.

480
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Speaker 7: It's like, well, I got to do the missal and

481
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Speaker 7: I'll pick the Miami team. I'm surprised though he would.

482
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Speaker 7: And also Signetti on the other side, he yeah, I mean,

483
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Speaker 7: but so Carrie Rhodes got Indiana.

484
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Speaker 1: Carrie Rhoads going win, man.

485
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Speaker 3: I mean, one of these days people are gonna have

486
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: to step up. We'll start doing these against the spread.

487
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: Isn't it time for Quinn's wins? Man? What a great point.

488
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Speaker 4: I mean, winning cures all illness, it really does.

489
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Speaker 6: I'm going to win Quinn's wins.

490
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Speaker 5: That's right, don't It doesn't get any bigger than this. Sure,

491
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 5: we're five hundred on the season. We can't afford to

492
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Speaker 5: lose this one. And I have been quite the predicament because, as.

493
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Speaker 3: Many of you have known, I keep waiting for this

494
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Speaker 3: Indiana team to stumble, for them to have one of

495
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Speaker 3: those performances. Keep waiting, don't don't jink. Well, that's the

496
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: problem is like you're going to jink them.

497
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Speaker 5: If you're an Indiana fan, You're gonna hate me for

498
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Speaker 5: doing anything other than pick out. But like at this point,

499
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Speaker 5: it's worked out for them every step of the way.

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Speaker 3: I just eight and a half points? Is is that

501
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Speaker 3: what still?

502
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Speaker 5: As just as the undraftings efforting? Okay, I've got it

503
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 5: at a the half as of right?

504
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 3: That seems like so much. That's a lot like I

505
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: see this game as a.

506
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 5: Lower scoring still eight and a half, lower scoring affair.

507
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: Is it over unders still at forty seven and a half? Yeah,

508
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: that's correct. I just Miami's gonna chew up clock, They're

509
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: gonna run the ball.

510
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 5: Indiana wants to do the same thing, and and a

511
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 5: lot of their big games have been tighter, lower scoring games.

512
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Speaker 5: So I got two bets for you. I got the

513
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Speaker 5: under a forty seven and a half. And I look,

514
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that Indiana doesn't win, folks. I'm just

515
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 5: saying they play these these big games tight. I know

516
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 5: the last one was an anomaly. We don't see that

517
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Speaker 5: very often. I gotta take me plus eight and a

518
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 5: half I got, so there's just no way they're gonna

519
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 5: keep blowing these these big dogs out.

520
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Speaker 3: I like it. Now, let me ask you this.

521
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Speaker 4: Okay, if you were one game over five hundred, would

522
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Speaker 4: you have made two picks today?

523
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm tied the matter. But if you're one game

524
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Speaker 3: over five hundred and you lost, you would have been

525
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: would have If I was one game over, I would

526
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Speaker 3: have made you. But if you would have made to

527
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Speaker 3: this is what I like.

528
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Speaker 5: I'm not like you where I get scared of what

529
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 5: the overall record is.

530
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Speaker 3: I shoot it.

531
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Speaker 5: However, I see it and I see both these two

532
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Speaker 5: things playing out.

533
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a home game for Miami, like they got.

534
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Speaker 5: They Well, it's a home game for them, which they're

535
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Speaker 5: the only team that's been able to, you know, win

536
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Speaker 5: national championships by playing.

537
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Speaker 3: In the Orange Bowl.

538
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Speaker 5: This one's a little different, but if you go back

539
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 5: through their history, they would be the only team that's

540
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Speaker 5: been able to accomplish that.

541
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Speaker 3: Just because the setup.

542
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Speaker 5: This will be the first team obviously playing a home

543
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Speaker 5: game in the playoff where the four teams are twelve teams.

544
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Speaker 3: What's the what are the ticket prices going for? Oh?

545
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 5: The kidd in price last time I looked, was thousands.

546
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 5: Also also how to Buddy reach out? Apparently he sold

547
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Speaker 5: his suite to an Indiana alum, it's a rather large

548
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Speaker 5: suite at the hard.

549
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 3: Over a million dollars. No, I swear to God stopping

550
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: he texted me yesterday. I go Mark Cuban. It's like

551
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: who just who bought your sweet for this? All right?

552
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: I mean, guys, this is million. This is potentially a

553
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 3: once in a lifetime opportunity for Frediana, Like a million dollars.

554
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 3: People can act like this is gonna happen every year.

555
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Speaker 5: I don't know, Like like you, it's hard to win, man,

556
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 5: especially in a tournament format too. I mean, think about

557
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 5: how dominant we thought Ohio State was until they got

558
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 5: in there and then over a really big ten championship,

559
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 5: and then they got in there.

560
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Speaker 3: It's like they never were able to recover. I mean

561
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Speaker 3: it is, it's historic. I get it. I'm just not

562
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Speaker 3: paying those prices to go watch it. I'm just not.

563
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Speaker 3: I'm just it's not gonna happen.

564
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Speaker 4: By the way, what would you if you had to

565
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 4: guess lowest ticket price for this game right now? To

566
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Speaker 4: sit up at a in section three thirty one sixte

567
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: thirty one, which is like you know, back of the year, it.

568
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: Was like eight hundred was up top was like less

569
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: I heard, So.

570
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 4: You're going fifteen hundred, yeah, you had eight hundred, right,

571
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: like eight nine hundred, yeah, try just under three thousand dollars.

572
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 5: So here's why too, if you think about it, So

573
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: usually there's there's a finite timeline right like game starts on.

574
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 5: It's a home game for Miami, So you got people

575
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: who are waiting for those to come down. They're just

576
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 5: sitting there way till the game kicks. And then you've

577
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 5: got Indiana who's willing to pay those prices because they'd

578
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 5: never seen anything like this before. So it is I mean,

579
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 5: I don't know that we'll ever see a college football

580
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 5: game with ticket price, at least not in the near

581
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 5: future this high.

582
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 3: Just because the scenario surrounding boat teams.

583
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Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about a giant letdown if Indiana

584
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 4: goes out because it's so impressive and improbable what they've

585
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: done as a program.

586
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: Dang, you just flashing my mind.

587
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 5: If the person back just crapping the bed right out

588
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 5: the gate jump on a lead, that that that's it.

589
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 3: I mean, that's essentially think about it.

590
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 5: Five games this year they've started off either the first

591
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 5: or second play with the pick six.

592
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: Five times. Well, look Bruce hair I'll be I'll say this,

593
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: Bruce Felman does great work.

594
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: If you go read on the Athletic he actually gives

595
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 5: you this deep dive from coaching staffs that play both teams,

596
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 5: so they give you a really good preview, really good

597
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 5: idea of what's behind it. But that question keeps coming up,

598
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 5: and I will just say this, I'm not making any accusations.

599
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: I've talked about this all week.

600
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Speaker 5: If if you if you were going to do it,

601
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Speaker 5: if you were going to try to find a way of.

602
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Speaker 3: You know, figuring out a way of cheating and the

603
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: plays on it, it would be the comms.

604
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 5: I think you you'd have to find a way of

605
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: hacking into their communications system, into the defensive player, into

606
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: the quarterback, because that would be the easiest way of

607
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: knowing right then and there, like what that is, because

608
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: you can tell from the verbiage oftentimes what the call is.

609
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 5: Otherwise like everyone oh they've got their game plan or

610
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 5: oh they're watching their film or in real time once

611
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: they have a certain personnel in a formation, etc. Like

612
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 5: you're not gonna be able to communicate it and I

613
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 5: identify from the sideline and get it into your guy

614
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 5: quick enough so the defense knows what's happening. It's too hard,

615
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 5: the game moves too fast to do that. So the

616
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 5: only real way you could and it's why sign stealing

617
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: had gone on forever. Coaches made their hay off that.

618
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 5: And I'm not gonna say which coaches, but there's some

619
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: defensive coaches who they would have a guy and Connor

620
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 5: stallions they would be able to end game pick off

621
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Speaker 5: your sign so they knew what play was coming. Well,

622
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: now with the coach the quarterback, no one's been able

623
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Speaker 5: to do that. And there's some accusations now that like, well,

624
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: Indiana's doing something because they somehow always are in the

625
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 5: right call for what they're doing.

626
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Speaker 3: So that's the accusation. I don't think it's the case.

627
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: But I mean, if it's the fact that it's being

628
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: talked about this much, because it is getting more and

629
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: more momentum as this goes on, like somebody gonna do

630
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: some digging and find out the truth sooner.

631
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Speaker 3: You don't think they already are, by the way, I think.

632
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 5: Teams are protecting themselves because this has been going on

633
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 5: for a while now, like even since the Big Ten

634
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: Championship game, like throughout the season. So teams are not

635
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 5: even they're changing passwords to a lot of their logins.

636
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: They're not even uploading today cybersecurity football team.

637
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 5: Well, when there's somebody who's got a cyber intelligence background

638
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 5: on your defensive staff, you know, you become a little

639
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 5: bit concerned.

640
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Speaker 1: I mean, if chats was accessing people's private chats and

641
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: grabbing like I was going on for a long time

642
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: and grabbing a right, yeah, yeah, grabbing no men appropriate pictures.

643
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Speaker 3: I mean, why not do the same thing and grab

644
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: something that was in the offensive side of the ball though.

645
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: Right, But but still, I mean, I'm just saying, if

646
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Speaker 1: you have somebody who can do it and nobody's going

647
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Speaker 1: to know.

648
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Speaker 5: I kind of got swept under the rug with the

649
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 5: rest of the relations and yeah, I mean I was like,

650
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Speaker 5: Matt Weiss, what do you mean all they was getting

651
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 5: the picks out of the box while you're there, right,

652
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

653
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: It's like you said, I'm getting some places.

654
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: It's like it's like you're checking out at the grocery store.

655
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: You're like, I'm a Snickers too. Why not you know

656
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here. If you figure to be in there,

657
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: get your money's worth. Man, why not wonder?

658
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: Uh, I mean, what didn't they say he was leveraging

659
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Speaker 1: the content?

660
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't recall that. I don't either,

661
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: and I don't want to get into speculate.

662
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: It just starts to try the storyline of it sounds

663
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: pretty interesting though, Like if you get compromising content on somebody,

664
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: you like, hey, you don't want.

665
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 5: To get out, let me ask you this, and you

666
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 5: know how it is, like, you know, you support the

667
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 5: military and sure military background, Like if the first thing

668
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 5: you try to do is take out their comms right

669
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 5: in a battle, that's what you're trying to do. You're

670
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: trying to But the other thing is if you don't

671
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 5: want to take it out, then you use it to

672
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 5: your advantage, try to get it. So that's where I

673
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 5: always feel like it comes back to somehow if that

674
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 5: was happening, that to me is how they would do it,

675
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 5: or how teams have done in the past, because that's

676
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 5: the only way to assure yourself of knowing what play

677
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: the team's running, and then that that would lead to

678
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 5: you being like, all right, that's why they've been so dominant.

679
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: It would be interesting if they were getting the script

680
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: because most teams.

681
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: Script the first test. But if you're able to go

682
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: in the day of.

683
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: The game and know what they're playing and they're printing

684
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: it out, and how many first play pick six.

685
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 5: They've had five pick sixes either the first or second

686
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 5: play leag come on. Well, and here's the other thing

687
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 5: where I'm not again saying I don't want to give

688
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 5: it credibility.

689
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still.

690
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 5: Execution, but but beyond that where coaches become so skeptical

691
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: as they're like at the NFL level, talents equated because

692
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: there's so much talent in the league and all that.

693
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 5: So even with the worst team bats team, it's any

694
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 5: given sunday in college football when you walk out on fields,

695
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 5: like you see a dramatic difference between and how some

696
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 5: teams look and others look. And that's why it's always

697
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 5: kind of looked like Indiana's David and everyone they're playing

698
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 5: against his goliath, and like, don't look any further than

699
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 5: just the left tackle for Miami who's six foot eight

700
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 5: and fifty years crazy, and what he's going up against

701
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 5: a cross room. And so more often than not, you know,

702
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 5: var is that guy gonna win?

703
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably, especially in college. So when that's not playing out.

704
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: That's why people get skeptical and so's that's not a

705
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 5: takeaway from anything Indiana has done.

706
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: Like to me, like they.

707
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 5: Define the word unbelievable because they've been unbelievable. They played

708
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: so well. It's not people aren't able to fathom how

709
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 5: well they've played.

710
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: Now if they are.

711
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: This you know, conspiracy theory that they've hacked into you

712
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: know cloud, you know cloud and gotten access to people's

713
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: game plans, is that just defensively because I mean, does

714
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 4: that explain for Nanda Mendoza's year that he's had.

715
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Speaker 5: I think you you say it's it's probably both sides

716
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 5: on just one side.

717
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Speaker 4: Right, I mean, I look, at some point somebody's gonna

718
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: do enough digging.

719
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Speaker 5: I mean, the reality is like this isn't would be

720
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 5: a first that we had spygay, We've had all kinds

721
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 5: of other things that.

722
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: Have gone on. Nothing's going to come out. I don't

723
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: think they'd ever find it either way. I mean, obviously

724
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: a step ahead, but yeah, nothing's going to come from this. Man.

725
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying, maybe be a step ahead.

726
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Speaker 4: If if that was the case, I've been trying to

727
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: tell you guys, man, Big ten is dirty and trying to.

728
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: Do this like that didn't happen in the SEC. We

729
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: don't know.

730
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna say if you're the SEC right now,

731
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 5: give it out. Poorest things have gone last few years.

732
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Speaker 3: Of course, that's what you got. Yeah, Michigan, Indiana, everybody's

733
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: doing it over there.

734
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Speaker 4: So we were talking to open up the show early

783
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: on about Sam Darnold. He's got the oblique issue. We've

784
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: talked about the Niners injuries and some people speculating, well,

785
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 4: you know, they play next to you know whatever, it

786
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 4: is like a nuclear.

787
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: Waste that, yeah, whatever, you.

788
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: Know, but health is a concern for all these teams.

789
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 4: It feels like we're gonna probably add another regular season

790
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: game onto this whole thing, and you're just seeing teams

791
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 4: have to deal with injuries and one of those teams

792
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: that had to deal with an injury was the Jacksonville

793
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: Jaguars and Travis Hunter.

794
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: But according to the Jags, even though you.

795
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 4: Know he had the issue and needed season ending knee surgery,

796
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 4: they're still gonna play him both ways next year. That's

797
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: still gonna be the plan with Travis Hunter. And this

798
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: is I don't know, man, I'm.

799
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: Gonna ask us.

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00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 5: Does it feel like they're trying to justify where they

801
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 5: took him with saying he's gonna play two ways because

802
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 5: that's what we said what we took him, Like, why

803
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: can't they just let him be great at one side

804
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 5: or the other? Which I tend to think even though

805
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 5: he's a great receiver because he's a natural athlete, I

806
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 5: think he's.

807
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: A better cornerback.

808
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 5: I think that's more natural to him and it fits

809
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 5: like where his skill setting game is at.

810
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 3: But that might also might not be a need really

811
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Speaker 3: for them.

812
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: They had success, so I think they have some flexibility,

813
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: But I still think it's selling a bill of goods.

814
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: He sells hope. They were good, but they weren't good

815
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: enough this year. So what continues to give you hope

816
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: moving forward? You know, it's like because of the injury.

817
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: You get a two for one. You get the benefit

818
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Speaker 1: of being able to still continue to market.

819
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Speaker 3: You know him as a as a.

820
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: Dual threat guy, a two way guy, and it's not

821
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Speaker 1: you know, it's not been used up in his rookie year.

822
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: You get to do it in his sophomore season.

823
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: So whether they'll do it or not, I think Liam

824
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: Cohen and those guys really did an excellent job of

825
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: finding balance on both sides of the ball. So you

826
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Speaker 1: bring him into the equation. I'm certain they're going to

827
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: use him more on the side. They feel like they

828
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: that he can do more, and the justification of seeing

829
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Speaker 1: him from time to time on the opposite side of

830
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: the ball would most likely be the most sensible approach

831
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Speaker 1: to this.

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Speaker 3: He's not a big dude. He's not big at all.

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00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: You do not want that wear and tear on one

834
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: of your guys that you're looking at to be a

835
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: franchise guy. But it so to me if you can't

836
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Speaker 1: say that that that's what you're going to do, do.

837
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 5: You look at him then and say he's being better

838
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 5: off in a wide receiver, then I mean they get

839
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 5: a lot more protections if you're concerned about his size,

840
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 5: and just in general, if I'm concerned about his size,

841
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 5: which I mean Davonte Smith has done, you know, he's

842
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 5: maintained being pretty healthy in Philly.

843
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: But if I'm if I'm.

844
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: Really concerned about his size, I'm putting him that corner,

845
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, because I don't want them to get hit,

846
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: you know.

847
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 5: But then if I'm gonnac, I'm gonna run out of them.

848
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to run outside zone and put them

849
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 5: in positions where I can run them every time, and

850
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell the receivers don't block him, let him,

851
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 5: let him make the tackle, go block the safety.

852
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know they're going to use them

853
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: both ways, but I think seeing him have a knee injury,

854
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: they're definitely going to be protective over over how they're

855
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: using it.

856
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: Also, well, sounds like a lot of concerns for a

857
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 4: guy you gave up four picks for, including a first

858
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 4: rounder next year.

859
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: It seems like maybe maybe.

860
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Speaker 1: That's why you're gonna stay true to saying you're gonna

861
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Speaker 1: play them both ways.

862
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Speaker 3: I mean, right, I was also gonna say, I don't

863
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: know if this is even like proven, I have to

864
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: come through this.

865
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 5: But as a wide receiver. You know, the steps you're

866
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 5: taking right, Like, obviously they're they're counted off. Sometimes they're

867
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 5: calculated and how they're gonna cut and run. DB's are

868
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 5: always reactive. I think coming off like a knee injury,

869
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: you almost rap there'd be a receiver than a dB,

870
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 5: just because at least you can prepare your body a

871
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 5: little bit.

872
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 3: More for it, you know what I'm saying.

873
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: If you're playing man, if you're manning him up, if

874
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: you're putting him in his own all he's doing is

875
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: dropping back, you know.

876
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: So just that break is more reactionary. Yeah, I could

877
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: see it. I could see it both ways. I could

878
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Speaker 3: see it both ways.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, however, however it goes, Travis Hunter has

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Speaker 1: been sold as a guy that is a generational talent

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Speaker 1: that is versatile enough to be able to do both

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Speaker 1: set both both things his skill sets are are are vast,

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Speaker 1: So I don't I just don't think they're going to

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Speaker 1: overuse him.

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Speaker 3: I don't, but they will use him both sides, both ways. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Browns got there first next year, so I'm

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Speaker 4: sure the Browns probably thought, oh, this will be a

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Speaker 4: top pick, and then next thing.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Jags made a run, so hour three

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Speaker 3: coming at you. Yeah, damn right,