Speaker 1: Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to Mini Crush. Monday m u
Speaker 1: n d y. You know what I mean is that
Speaker 1: that's sort of like a Canadian uh pronunciation of Monday
Speaker 1: here you Sam? Sorry, sorry mom? And Monday no mondy
Speaker 1: is a little more Midwestern. I'm trying to latch onto
Speaker 1: something here, Chuck. I don't know. I got nothing, man,
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm fine? I don't know what Monday is?
Speaker 1: What what people say that Monday? We think? I think
Speaker 1: we did this before where there's that, you know, Monday Monday,
Speaker 1: but they don't say it that way. Today they say
Speaker 1: Monday Monday. They definitely enunciate it correctly. You know, I
Speaker 1: got nothing, Chuck. I think it's a Midwestern thing, like
Speaker 1: Monday week. You know, wait where if you people say
Speaker 1: Monday week? Uh yeah, that's um that feels antiquated. But
Speaker 1: does feel antiquated, doesn't it? You know what else is antiquated? Chuck?
Speaker 1: Cinema I think it's on the way out. Honestly, man,
Speaker 1: it's really starting to catch up to me not having
Speaker 1: new movies for a while. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm fine. Plenty of movies out there to watch. But
Speaker 1: at least we're getting some snoow stuff on the streaming services,
Speaker 1: you know, and some good beefied series. You know. Have
Speaker 1: you seen that I Will Destroy You? Yeah, I've heard it. Still,
Speaker 1: I really miss my tentpoles, your tim I missed, but
Speaker 1: I missed my tipole I wanted. I wanted The Heights
Speaker 1: and James Bond and Top Gun and that Nolan movie
Speaker 1: The Heights. Is that the lin Manuel Miranda. I'm just
Speaker 1: I wanted all that stuff. I was looking forward to
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Yeah. Um, well, good news. You've you
Speaker 1: told me some good news last week, I think. But
Speaker 1: my ex is husband, who works in film, uh, got
Speaker 1: a big, long running gig on The Walking Dead that
Speaker 1: he was very comfortable with, and he's been super cautious
Speaker 1: about the whole COVID thing. You know. Really it was
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with certain jobs that were offered to him because
Speaker 1: he didn't feel like they were taking it seriously in
Speaker 1: the you know, social distance aspect of it, which, as
Speaker 1: we know, I mean, it's fucking hard with movies and
Speaker 1: you're working with big cruise. But he seemed very confident
Speaker 1: that this Walking Dead situation was going to be to
Speaker 1: his comfort level. And it's like a year and a
Speaker 1: half job. So what does he do. He's like a
Speaker 1: set builder carpenter and he does he does all the
Speaker 1: big heavy lifting man things. M hm oh no. Uh
Speaker 1: so I'm talking with Bill Gates in like four hours.
Speaker 1: How exciting is that? Again? Yeah? Again? He remember that
Speaker 1: time we went to New York and hung out with
Speaker 1: Bill Gates. He with He came calling again, Nol and yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a little disappointed You're not gonna be there this time. Man,
Speaker 1: We really, we really had a report, Chuck. I know
Speaker 1: you guys broke up big time. What's the deal with
Speaker 1: another one of his h clean energy initiatives? He wants
Speaker 1: to talk to you and Josh about No. I mean
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's all COVID all the time. That
Speaker 1: makes sense. He wants to talk about vaccines and therapeutics
Speaker 1: and yeah, we said sure, and we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: short stuff with them and just sort of have it
Speaker 1: be the episode. That's cool man, Yeah, because he was
Speaker 1: he kind of predicted this whole thing early, like in
Speaker 1: a Ted talk. He did this Ted talk where he
Speaker 1: was really talking about how underprepared we would be for
Speaker 1: such a some very similar event. And you know, of
Speaker 1: course he was right, Um, but he also was getting
Speaker 1: a lot of like a lot of these conspiracy nuts
Speaker 1: think like it's him and the global elite. He created
Speaker 1: this for population control and to profit off of vaccine
Speaker 1: because you know, Bill Gates Nol. He is, uh, he's
Speaker 1: not rich enough. He wants more money and he's willing
Speaker 1: to kill millions of people to get it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I've always thought of him as a pure Monty Burns
Speaker 1: l evil. You know, man, he is a genuinely good
Speaker 1: human trying to do his best to leave behind a
Speaker 1: legacy on planet Earth. So and he who says all
Speaker 1: that stuff they can just stick it up their butth
Speaker 1: hole nol up right up their butt hole, which is
Speaker 1: what you used to refer to the anatomical part. But
Speaker 1: not people. People are assholes. Butt holes are exactly I
Speaker 1: will say, Chuck when I when we when we met
Speaker 1: him that time, and this was in this hotel room. Um,
Speaker 1: he had very low profile security. I was very taken
Speaker 1: by how like chill he was and how not like
Speaker 1: it was very just like, you know, like he was
Speaker 1: a good, good dude. Call me Bill, that's uh, that
Speaker 1: should be the name of his eventual Well, I'm where
Speaker 1: he probably has had a few books written about him,
Speaker 1: but exactly I don't know if he's written on one
Speaker 1: about himself. Has he has he done a memoir? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think. I don't think so okay
Speaker 1: should be called me Bill. That's good. You should pitch
Speaker 1: that to him on the on the zoom call and
Speaker 1: he have said, excuse me, it's Mr Gates. Yes, and
Speaker 1: then he steeples his fingers like Monty Burns and laughs ominously. So, nol,
Speaker 1: I want to give you another thank you and another
Speaker 1: plug for the podcast Rivals, the podcast that you what
Speaker 1: are you doing for that? You produce it? Are you
Speaker 1: sort of the high level producer on that? In the
Speaker 1: EP of that web I developed it, you know, with
Speaker 1: the hosts and with the production team, And uh, couldn't
Speaker 1: be cooler, dudes. Jordan's one of the hosts in particular,
Speaker 1: is working with us on a lot of other stuff
Speaker 1: and he's just one of my favorite human beings on
Speaker 1: the goddamn planet. Yeah, he sounds like a super nice guy,
Speaker 1: and um, I'm just enjoying it. For those of you
Speaker 1: that haven't heard us talk about it. It's a show
Speaker 1: about famous musical rivals. Uh, these guys are just very
Speaker 1: affable and listen to bowl and um that that's kind
Speaker 1: of the big appeal of the show I think is
Speaker 1: they're not snobby, they're not jerks. They're just very listenable,
Speaker 1: approachable guys. That means a lot coming from you, Chuck,
Speaker 1: because you guys are kind of the model for that. Honestly.
Speaker 1: In podcast, you and you and Josh are sort of like,
Speaker 1: let's learn something, let's hang out with some dudes that
Speaker 1: we would want to be in conversation with, and that's
Speaker 1: what makes it broadly appealing. UM music is still so
Speaker 1: niche though, like in General Music podcast, they're not gonna's growing.
Speaker 1: It's growing though, and like there's such so good at it.
Speaker 1: I'm I couldn't be more pleased. They had never met
Speaker 1: before we I literally connected them on a call and
Speaker 1: then they met in person once and the rest of
Speaker 1: the recordings have been remote. They've literally recorded in person
Speaker 1: one time, and they developed that rapport over time, and
Speaker 1: it really is hitting a stride. I'm so proud of
Speaker 1: those guys in that show. Thanks so listening. I already
Speaker 1: I went back yesterday because I'm just sort of jumping
Speaker 1: around and checked out the pilot episode on Stevie Nicks
Speaker 1: and Lindsay Buckingham and uh, you know, pilots are tough,
Speaker 1: and they did a really good job. That was before
Speaker 1: better then, but it's um, it was really solid, awesome man. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: feel free to talk about this on on stuff you
Speaker 1: should know as well. Certainly we would love to have
Speaker 1: some more. I talked back to him the whole time.
Speaker 1: I'm like, the whole time, I'm sure we would love
Speaker 1: to have you on the show that they had an
Speaker 1: episode that Billy Joel, Elton John episode, like all of
Speaker 1: them to leave on Helm Robbie Robertson. I'm just like
Speaker 1: saying things back to these guys. So yeah, no, that's
Speaker 1: great man, That's that's really that's a such a cool endorsement.
Speaker 1: I will pass that on to to the to the guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll have helped them on Movie Crush at some
Speaker 1: point too. A million percent. Yes, they're into all kinds
Speaker 1: of pop culture. Steve sorry does yes. Steve Hayden has
Speaker 1: written several books as well that you might take one
Speaker 1: of them. Uh, he did a radio Head book, but
Speaker 1: he also did this one called your favorite band is
Speaker 1: killing You. That's all about like rivalries. So he literally wrote,
Speaker 1: it's not the book, at least a book on most rivalries.
Speaker 1: So yeah, good, good dude. All right, nol. So what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna kick it off this week
Speaker 1: with Uh. I finally saw Hamilton's Um on Disney plus
Speaker 1: the filmed version of the original cast recording of the
Speaker 1: Broadway show, and uh, we watched it Sunday night, all
Speaker 1: the way through. And you know, we had listened to
Speaker 1: the music for a while now, so we knew the show,
Speaker 1: but seeing it performed, especially from that original cast, really
Speaker 1: just brings it to life, of course in so many
Speaker 1: different ways. And man, I was just floored. It was
Speaker 1: just amazing. Beyond the music, which was already, like I said,
Speaker 1: I knew, was great, the production was just so creative, um,
Speaker 1: very low fi and that just not a lot of
Speaker 1: big bells and whistles they did with a lot with
Speaker 1: a little which I think was super smart and let
Speaker 1: the music shine and let the cash shine, you know,
Speaker 1: the music pretty well going in and all are you
Speaker 1: okay cool? Yeah? And the that that spinning, that spinning
Speaker 1: stage in the center was just so smart and creative,
Speaker 1: and there's so many different things they could do with that,
Speaker 1: and they just used it so well. I just um,
Speaker 1: the costuming, um, the book, everything was just off the
Speaker 1: charts great, not overhyped. It deserves every bit of it.
Speaker 1: I will say, I saw your hot take on Facebook
Speaker 1: that I still something. I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 1: say that that lin Manuel Mirandez the lead was a
Speaker 1: little bit underpowered. Yeah, I mean I felt the need
Speaker 1: to say something to kind of stick up for him
Speaker 1: because I've seen a lot of people saying that a
Speaker 1: couple of things on that nill you if you're the
Speaker 1: genius who comes up with this idea and this execution
Speaker 1: and those songs, you get to do whatever the funk
Speaker 1: you want, you get to play Hamilton's uh. And also
Speaker 1: you know, no, he's not quite up to their level.
Speaker 1: But um, Broadway singers are the best singers in the world, right,
Speaker 1: they're the best. Um. I mean, I guess you can
Speaker 1: make cases for the biggest pop stars, but you know,
Speaker 1: even the biggest pop stars lean on auto tune. Even
Speaker 1: if you don't think they do, they do. They get
Speaker 1: in there with that pro tools and make it sound perfect. Well,
Speaker 1: there's so much physicality and Broadway. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to be able to sing for real every night multiple shows,
Speaker 1: and move your ass and and act and like get
Speaker 1: in and out of costume and all of the behind
Speaker 1: the scenes stuff you don't even see. Stresses me out
Speaker 1: just thinking about it, you know what I mean, to
Speaker 1: have it go off like that, So you can't really
Speaker 1: compare him to that. He is not quite like he
Speaker 1: would not be the lead in a Broadway show had
Speaker 1: he not written a Broadway show. But it's not like
Speaker 1: he was bad. He was. He was good. He was
Speaker 1: really good. He's a good singer, he's a really good rapper. Um.
Speaker 1: And then you just can't say, like, well, he's not
Speaker 1: Broadway level. I thought he brought something different to it.
Speaker 1: It was great. I brought it up because I agree.
Speaker 1: I didn't find it to be lacking. I thought it
Speaker 1: was just it had he had a character. I mean
Speaker 1: it's said to like as like this scrappy, it made
Speaker 1: sense for the character, you know what I mean. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: I I thought he did a fantastic job, and I
Speaker 1: was just I only brought it up because I've seen
Speaker 1: so many people dogging on him about it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what what's your problem? Like? It seems like a bit
Speaker 1: of an hollow criticism. You know, It's like here ten
Speaker 1: people that sing perfectly and can do anything, and then
Speaker 1: here's another guy with a lot of character and the
Speaker 1: emotion he brings to it, And I just I thought
Speaker 1: it was great. I loved it. So I asked the crushers,
Speaker 1: because boy, they love Hamilton's um, let's just hear about
Speaker 1: your favorite overall moment. It's a show of moments, could
Speaker 1: be a number, could be a glance, it could be
Speaker 1: a small piece of acting. Um, and we'll go ahead
Speaker 1: and get it going here. And I'm not gonna read
Speaker 1: any hater, no hater speech. I'm gonna let people just
Speaker 1: shower this with praise. Are you gonna read Bill Hayter's comment?
Speaker 1: Oh god, I wish let me see here. Jessica Foley says,
Speaker 1: King George my absolute favorite part. Yeah, Groff kills it.
Speaker 1: He was he was funny, he sings great. It was
Speaker 1: that that uh sort of a solo Greek chorus that
Speaker 1: was in comic relief. That was so necessary. I think
Speaker 1: in the movie. Did you see it all yet or
Speaker 1: did you just watch the first part. I've seen about
Speaker 1: three quarters, okay, and it's it's it's the long I
Speaker 1: need to finish the ends. It's not that long, I know,
Speaker 1: but uh And then she says the Skylar Sisters and
Speaker 1: Angelica's line in particular. But when I meet Thomas Jefferson,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna convince him to include women in the sequel work.
Speaker 1: That was a good part. That that number is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Greta Mansfield says, Philippa Sue and Renee Elise Goldsberry were
Speaker 1: fabulous as Eliza and Angelica. Great singers, stole the show
Speaker 1: when they're on stage. Also loved the rat battle with
Speaker 1: David Diggs. Yeah, the rat battles were cool. Um. I
Speaker 1: like the way they did that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've got into that part yet, but it's the only
Speaker 1: time they held microphones. Oh no, I I just think
Speaker 1: about when he introduced himself and they're like pounding on
Speaker 1: the table and stuff like that kind of look at that.
Speaker 1: It's not a rap battle, but it's definitely like a
Speaker 1: multi like almost like a Wu Tang situation where it's
Speaker 1: like a crew kind of trading versus. You know. That
Speaker 1: was great. Now, I guess you haven't gotten to the
Speaker 1: rat battle that's later on when um, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a debate, a policy debate framed as a rap battle,
Speaker 1: which is got And it was just so creative, you know,
Speaker 1: all this stuff to take what a Bunker's idea. It's like,
Speaker 1: I let's tell the story of Thomas Jefferson, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: of Hamilton's and Jefferson on Broadway, and let's set it
Speaker 1: to hip hop and also pop in some sort of
Speaker 1: old school Broadway sounds. It was like a range of
Speaker 1: styles in it just kind of a nuts idea. Well
Speaker 1: also that you sort of hinted this, but the way
Speaker 1: it was filmed was better than any like Broadway TV
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen, because it made you a feel
Speaker 1: like you were there. But it also got cinematic at
Speaker 1: times where the camera would like push in on the
Speaker 1: actual stage and I kind of wonder how they did.
Speaker 1: They must have been on this big booms or whatever.
Speaker 1: But like, uh, it had a really cool vibe, you know,
Speaker 1: like where you kind of felt like you were a spectator,
Speaker 1: but then you also felt like you were in the
Speaker 1: show at certain times. Yeah, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: people who saw it live said they really enjoyed the
Speaker 1: Disney plus a dish because they could just see so
Speaker 1: much more expression and all these subtle sort of facial cues.
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Josh Brennan says the Battle of Yorktown probably
Speaker 1: my favorite. So good, especially Hercules Mulligan coming in with
Speaker 1: his rap section. Oh boy, he's great. Um and Dear
Speaker 1: Theodosia is so sweet, such a great melody, not to
Speaker 1: mention some real raw sentiment for any parent. Yeah, Dear
Speaker 1: Theodosia's boy. And I learned how to play that on
Speaker 1: the on the guitar. I'm gonna do it. You should, dude,
Speaker 1: I am Noel. That's what I just said. I would
Speaker 1: like for you to do that. Check. I support you
Speaker 1: learning this song and said it to me that now
Speaker 1: that I'm finally all ensconced in my studio and I'll
Speaker 1: actually get back to dicking with some of these tunes
Speaker 1: we've been talking about. You're two tunes, I know, dude,
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm gonna load them up. You just
Speaker 1: reminded me. Let me see here. Emily Newton says, not
Speaker 1: a moment, not a moment in the show, but the
Speaker 1: use of color. Did anyone else notice in the second
Speaker 1: act as green Suit that darkened in color as he aged,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it was green because money, it was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: I want to look for more use of color like that. Yeah, Emily,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you were a mad Men watcher,
Speaker 1: but there was this great uh. I think that's a
Speaker 1: blog about mad Men and their use of color with
Speaker 1: the costuming that goes really deep, super interesting. Same with
Speaker 1: Breaking Bad. Yeah, Walter White's kind of transformation and that
Speaker 1: was really mirrored by the change in his wardrobe color scheme.
Speaker 1: But he starts off wearing this like lime green and
Speaker 1: gradually I forget it even gets darker in tone or
Speaker 1: what happens exactly. But there's a bunch of blogs specifically
Speaker 1: talking about Breaking Bad the colored use as well. Very cool.
Speaker 1: I love it. Jacob Johnson says, I want to be
Speaker 1: in the room where it happens, the room where it happens.
Speaker 1: Burr is a powerhouse performer. It's that point in the
Speaker 1: show you fully understand where their character is coming from. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough role to play the villain.
Speaker 1: You know, he killed it so so good. That guy
Speaker 1: Leslie Odom Jr. Is on someone who one of my
Speaker 1: podcasts hosts actually kind of sort of discovered, I guess,
Speaker 1: or at least signed to his label s Curve Records.
Speaker 1: It's guy Steve Greenberg who does this show with us
Speaker 1: called The Speed of Sound just launched. Check that out
Speaker 1: wherever you get podcasts. But yeah, he was very instrumental
Speaker 1: in Leslie Odom Jr. Kind of coming into his his
Speaker 1: own boy. He was good. Uh. Lennia Barnett brings up
Speaker 1: a point that I love Noel blown away by the
Speaker 1: stage direction, especially the rotating section. Also, the bullet as
Speaker 1: a character throughout the entire show was really well done. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I noticed that. And they don't really spell out exactly
Speaker 1: what they're doing there. You just kind of have to
Speaker 1: watch closely and you're like, oh, that lady's a bullet
Speaker 1: coming from the gun. Very neat, very creative. Uh. Div Digs,
Speaker 1: he just steals the show. It's hard to pick a
Speaker 1: favorite when you've got someone like Digs on stage. He
Speaker 1: plays two characters, right, Yeah, he plays uh Jefferson then
Speaker 1: market to Lafiette in the beginning with a great French accent.
Speaker 1: It's funny. I was just sort of had some regret
Speaker 1: that I hadn't seen Hamilton's when I interviewed him. Um,
Speaker 1: because I just sort of mentioned it briefly. But now
Speaker 1: that I look back, I'm sure he was. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he liked that. He probably was sick of talking about
Speaker 1: Hamilton's and really wanted to talk about Blind Spotting, so um,
Speaker 1: he sort of came across as appreciative afterward. And I'm
Speaker 1: glad I would not have been able to not talk
Speaker 1: about Hamilton's had I've seen it, So it's probably a
Speaker 1: good thing. Greg Hudson agrees, King George seen Steeler and
Speaker 1: usually my favorite moments Brian Long the opening thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: such an impressive start, so much talent on the stage.
Speaker 1: Josh Toco all loves Dear Theodosia, such a sweet song, Noll.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of tears flowing in our house.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't I can't wait to hear you play.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna even watch the rest of
Speaker 1: the movie. I just want to hear your version here,
Speaker 1: you're I want to hear your interpretation. Well, Emily, I
Speaker 1: would have to do it together because it's got great,
Speaker 1: great harmonies. All the better. Mike Sam says, dig steals
Speaker 1: the show. Philip A. Sou beyond amazing. Renee. At least
Speaker 1: Goldsberry comes out of nowhere, which is funny because she
Speaker 1: is in her late forties and she's been around the block.
Speaker 1: Groff is the man, but I'm gonna pick a smaller moment.
Speaker 1: At one point, Washington tells Hamilton's dying is easy, young man,
Speaker 1: living is harder. Later, in a reprise, Washington tells Hamilton's
Speaker 1: winning is easy, young man, Governing is harder. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of subtle stuff like that. A boy
Speaker 1: who was the guy who played Washington. He was fucking great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't recognize him, but he did.
Speaker 1: I did make it to his first big scene, I think. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think one of my favorite moments of the show.
Speaker 1: Uh was when he retires and that whole sequence where
Speaker 1: Hamilton's is charged with writing his retirement speech and they
Speaker 1: kind of juxtas they kind of pass each other as
Speaker 1: like they're singing at the same time, but Hamilton's front
Speaker 1: of stage, and then Washington kind of comes out and
Speaker 1: takes over as Hamilton's fades into the background. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then just the whole notion of like this man that
Speaker 1: did so much for our country, George Washington, like would
Speaker 1: have been a shoe in for reelection and just wanted
Speaker 1: to go home to Mountain Vernon and farm. Very sad
Speaker 1: and you know, in a good way. Now, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about this criticism that they just completely gloss
Speaker 1: over the fact that all these men were slave owners?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, that's not the show they were making. Um,
Speaker 1: you can pick apart anything if you don't do accurate
Speaker 1: historical retelling. I just I don't know. I think he
Speaker 1: had a story to tell and he told it well,
Speaker 1: of course, and I'm just being Devil's abog here. And
Speaker 1: obviously there's some power in casting it with all black casts,
Speaker 1: and that's sort of part of it where it's like
Speaker 1: we're re what's the word, I mean, I guess re
Speaker 1: contextualizing the story. We can still be patriotic and appreciate
Speaker 1: aspects of history without having to condemn people that did
Speaker 1: great things but also did horrible things. It's like it's
Speaker 1: sort of the idea of like separating the art from
Speaker 1: the artists. It's different than that, but it's like, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Obviously there's some reverence for these figures,
Speaker 1: but also you know, we all know that they were
Speaker 1: very complicated figures. They also did some shitty stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: I would be interested to hear Lenn Manuel Miranda talk
Speaker 1: about that aspect of it. I just I mean in
Speaker 1: recent weeks, sure, because it came out on Disney Plus
Speaker 1: and then everyone decided to like start hitting him upside
Speaker 1: the head with a hammer because he didn't do it
Speaker 1: exactly how they wanted. It just annoys me. Noll, No,
Speaker 1: I I feel it's a great musical heat. You know,
Speaker 1: have you seen the Beyonce movie. No, I have not.
Speaker 1: It just came out on Disney Plus. Well, that looks fantastic.
Speaker 1: She's great too, Joshua Hall says, one Last Time gets
Speaker 1: me every time. Yeah, that's what I was just talking about.
Speaker 1: Chris Jackson, that's his name. One Last Time so good.
Speaker 1: Nol Wait for It My favorite song. This is from
Speaker 1: Nick Kelly. Seeing in real life was truly something as
Speaker 1: far as Stagecraft. The Eye of the Hurricane part was
Speaker 1: really awesome to see. Yeah, a lot of people like
Speaker 1: wait for It. It's hard to pick up a favorite.
Speaker 1: You know. Another thing I love Nolan and no one's
Speaker 1: mentioned this yet was the Dueling Rules, Because you know,
Speaker 1: josh and I did a podcast on dueling years ago,
Speaker 1: and it's I think to the UH uninitiated that they
Speaker 1: just think dueling was just like stand with your backs
Speaker 1: and walks in paces and shoot. But there's so much
Speaker 1: more to the rules of dueling, and I think they
Speaker 1: really to spell those out too, to know that you
Speaker 1: the value of spelling out those rules. UH in a
Speaker 1: music in Musical Forum was just very cool. Loved it.
Speaker 1: You were seeing the movie Barry Lynden Chuck. Yes, no,
Speaker 1: we've covered that on this very show. Great. I I
Speaker 1: just another speaking of movies that I didn't finish, oh Man, well,
Speaker 1: although I made it too. There's an intermission. There's actually
Speaker 1: literally a title car that says intermission halfway through. UM.
Speaker 1: And I think it's fantastic. UM. It's something I wasn't
Speaker 1: expecting it at all. It's obviously Kubrick's big period piece,
Speaker 1: you know, master work. It's all lit with natural lighting,
Speaker 1: candles and stuff. It's amazing. It's actually really funny, and
Speaker 1: it's got a it's a dueling, a pretty important dueling
Speaker 1: thing in it too, that that I thought was funny
Speaker 1: and beautifully executed as well. Great movie. Berta Buzon Ferguson says,
Speaker 1: so many moments. But as New Jersey residence with a
Speaker 1: son in law whose parents were immigrants, we loved everything
Speaker 1: is a legal in New Jersey and immigrants, we get
Speaker 1: the job done. Great moments. Agree fully. Let me see here,
Speaker 1: Dave Barlow and a lot of people said this. David
Speaker 1: Barlow says the rewind during Satisfied, the way they told
Speaker 1: the story of Um of Hamilton's and his relationship with
Speaker 1: Eliza and her sister, and playing things out in reverse
Speaker 1: and jumping around with the timeline very very creative. It
Speaker 1: wasn't just straight up musical goodness, you know. It really
Speaker 1: was an innovative use of the form kind of you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, in a lot of ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Tony Cox also says the rewind sequence from
Speaker 1: Satisfied going back through Helpless Helpless is a great song too.
Speaker 1: That's a little sugar pop goodness. Okay, well here it is,
Speaker 1: Jessica Lynn Dalba, Uh tell my story at the end,
Speaker 1: boy boy, the endingnal just get ready. It's uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting. It's a Broadway show. You know, I think
Speaker 1: you count on Broadway shows to finish big. Um Hamilton's
Speaker 1: finishes small. It's a great effect the opening number, Melinda
Speaker 1: beccal Leo. I researched it and watched it again to
Speaker 1: pick up all the subtle hints and wordplay. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: saw a little YouTube of the cast, kind of an
Speaker 1: a zoom thing when they're asking what their favorite songs were,
Speaker 1: and they were picking all these great songs and then, um,
Speaker 1: who's the guy who played burr Leslie? Yeah, he named
Speaker 1: a few, but then he went and you know the
Speaker 1: the intro he said, to to pack that much history
Speaker 1: into a three plus minute song as an overview of
Speaker 1: his life, he said, it was just each stands. It
Speaker 1: was so dense with information, just brilliant. Did you see
Speaker 1: way back in the day when uh back in the
Speaker 1: holcyon days of your when Obama was president? Um lin,
Speaker 1: Manuel Moran did that sequence by himself at at an
Speaker 1: Obama dinner events or something like that or some kind
Speaker 1: of function. Oh well, I saw the cast do it
Speaker 1: at an Obama thing, but I did not see him
Speaker 1: do it by himself one early on before I think
Speaker 1: it was still in production, like it was probably the
Speaker 1: workshop days. Yeah, that's exactly right. He did, like all
Speaker 1: of the voices and all of the characters for the
Speaker 1: for the whole opening sequence, his pianist accompanying him. It
Speaker 1: was incredible. Yeah, because he did a workshop version. He
Speaker 1: did it off Broadway and then Broadway, and a handful
Speaker 1: of the actors were there for all of it. I
Speaker 1: think Digs is one of them, and um and Jackson
Speaker 1: who played Washington. It's a kidding goods using yet a
Speaker 1: little bit uh, King George. Everyone loves Diggs and King George.
Speaker 1: Of course. Boy Diggs really steals the show in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, and all people love him. He's got
Speaker 1: such a unique voice, such a good rapper and singer.
Speaker 1: Love thing like that. Oh yeah, Oh, he's fantastic. He
Speaker 1: holds his own and every way. I really love his Uh.
Speaker 1: I've talked about this, I think multiple times, his weird
Speaker 1: hip hop project clipping. It's like super kind of horror wrap,
Speaker 1: like very very weird and psychedelic and uh, lots of
Speaker 1: interesting production to like. The guy that does the production
Speaker 1: for it is actually sort of more of a noise guy,
Speaker 1: so it's very experimental hip hop. It's really good stuff
Speaker 1: if you're into something a little weird in your in
Speaker 1: your hip hop. Yeah, I was. I was telling Emily
Speaker 1: about it, and she said what I like it, and
Speaker 1: I said probably not, But I said, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's for you, but it's great. All right. Now we're
Speaker 1: gonna move on from Hamilton's and we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: another post here. What's one movie you can always watch
Speaker 1: it anytime, for any point if it's on. Everyone's got
Speaker 1: those movies. A lot of us have a lot of them.
Speaker 1: You got one goal that you can think of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny because I actually put it on last night.
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park is one. Um. I just there's something in
Speaker 1: every scene that grabs me and NAT pulls me in
Speaker 1: and I just stick with it, you know, Uh, you
Speaker 1: can kind of walk away, and that's when I've seen
Speaker 1: so many times that I can kind of reconstruct the
Speaker 1: missing parts in my mind no matter where I picked up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say that's one totally. All right, We're gonna
Speaker 1: start here with Adam had Adds his Double Impact. My father,
Speaker 1: brother and I love martial Arts and Van dam movies
Speaker 1: growing up may have been our favorite. It's by no
Speaker 1: means good, but it's always fun to watch. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of times these I mean, sometimes they're
Speaker 1: great movies, but sometimes they're just that comfort food that
Speaker 1: we love so much. Brian Thomason, a longtime listener, new
Speaker 1: to the Facebook page. Welcome Brian, This is NOL. Say
Speaker 1: hi Nol. Hello, are you with us? Yeah, I'm here. Okay, Sorry, Mike, Mike.
Speaker 1: My computer dinged and I don't know why, and I
Speaker 1: was confused. I looked like probably a deer in headlights
Speaker 1: for a second. I've got everything muted and I'm headphoned up.
Speaker 1: But my actual computer made a dang, and I don't
Speaker 1: know where that ding came from, So forgive me. Well.
Speaker 1: Welcome Brian back to the future. Any of them they're
Speaker 1: already easy watches but endlessly entertaining. Still, Yes, absolutely, Jackie
Speaker 1: Warrens has Blues Brothers. I grew up with the mentally
Speaker 1: ill mothers, so I never had a lot of sleepovers
Speaker 1: or parties. But my fourteenth birthday I had a slumber party.
Speaker 1: My dad coordinated the whole thing, and he helped keep
Speaker 1: my mom kind of out of the way and rented
Speaker 1: three VHS movies, Rocky Horror, Ferris Bueller, and Blues Brothers.
Speaker 1: That's great, what a great story. You know. I still
Speaker 1: haven't seen Blues Brothers or Rocky Horror. All the way through. Wow,
Speaker 1: rocky horror is. I mean, it's great, But the third
Speaker 1: act I don't love, so I think it's front loaded,
Speaker 1: but that's just me. Well, then I think I've seen
Speaker 1: the good parts then, because i've I've definitely seen the
Speaker 1: beginning in the middle. Um, I don't think I finished it. Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: I think I think I rented it one time and
Speaker 1: it just lost me in the third act because I
Speaker 1: was kind of like, well, I don't understand what's going on,
Speaker 1: and I just sort of drifted and stopped paying attention.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this though, another movie, a lesser
Speaker 1: known can't be that kind of rock opera movie. Have
Speaker 1: you seen The Phantom of the Paradise, Chuck, I've never
Speaker 1: seen it. It's obvious. I've seen bits and pieces. Dude.
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's really cool. It's Brian de Palma, Uh,
Speaker 1: what's his name? I'm Paul Williams. As all the music
Speaker 1: like the Muppet movie music, and it's just great. The
Speaker 1: songs are good. It's campy and fun and like violent
Speaker 1: and weird and sexy. It's just great. I highly recommend
Speaker 1: weird and sexy. Let me see me Linda bccalleo says,
Speaker 1: a lot of movies Jaws, Ghostbusters, Blazing Saddles, Airplane, and
Speaker 1: many many more. Yeah, those are all on my list,
Speaker 1: I can uh. Hebert says, Oh, brother, where art thou?
Speaker 1: In my opinion, one of the few perfect movies story writing, acting, cinematography, soundtrack.
Speaker 1: Really love it and I've watched it hundreds of times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of these are on my list too. Caitlin
Speaker 1: Callaghans is almost famous one of my favorites. I can't
Speaker 1: count one on one hand how many times I've watched
Speaker 1: it from beginning to end, Yet I know I've watched
Speaker 1: it in fragments dozens of times. Yeah, it's okay to
Speaker 1: check in and out of a movie. I don't do
Speaker 1: it as much anymore because we don't have cable, so
Speaker 1: it's not like we're flipping around and to see a movie.
Speaker 1: You know. That's true. Yeah, that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: It's not really a phenomenon that happens organically as much anymore.
Speaker 1: Uh something, Maybe you shouldn't hearing a poll from the
Speaker 1: crushers who still watches proper cable where they like, you know,
Speaker 1: actually clip channels around. I feel like so many people
Speaker 1: and with HBO and all these other things being available,
Speaker 1: all the cart are not doing that anymore, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think it's happened in a bigger
Speaker 1: way over the last couple of years for sure. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll put a pull up. No, we can get
Speaker 1: a number on that. I'll get back to you with
Speaker 1: some data. Uh, Anika raz what a name? Anka zik Ahmed?
Speaker 1: I hope I didn't get that middle part wrong. Great name, Zutopia.
Speaker 1: It's probably because I don't have a kid that watches
Speaker 1: it on repeat, so Anica dislikes Utopia. That's a good movie.
Speaker 1: I was want of first movies. My favorite part. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of good giftable moments in that movie. There's
Speaker 1: the sloth, the d m V so funny like smiles
Speaker 1: and kind of comes alive. That's a really good, good
Speaker 1: little moment. Yeah, those are those are great, Okay. Jim
Speaker 1: Aroyo says, uh, Groundhog Day fun trying to figure out
Speaker 1: where you are in the film when you drop in.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't think about that. It could be
Speaker 1: a drinking game. I think that's true. That's a really
Speaker 1: good idea. Yeah, because it kind of gives you hints
Speaker 1: at what's happened already too, So it's like I think
Speaker 1: he'd be I think he'd be all right. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: Anthony pest x as Good Fellows are Casino Scorsese at
Speaker 1: his best, and those two just sucked me in at
Speaker 1: any place. Yeah, I can watch those at any at
Speaker 1: any point, Jesse Baxter says the Big Lebowski. Oh God, yes,
Speaker 1: that's that's a perfect example of one I would I
Speaker 1: would continue watching that if I caught it. Also, the
Speaker 1: TV version and the way it's edited for TV with
Speaker 1: the swears is some of the most creative dubbing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's dude in the part where he's like, this is
Speaker 1: what happens, Larry, this is what happens when you fuck
Speaker 1: a stranger in the ass, Larry. It's something like when
Speaker 1: you find a when you find a stranger in the Alps.
Speaker 1: My favorite, I don't know I've mentioned this before, and
Speaker 1: I think probably stuff you should know was the TV
Speaker 1: version of do the Right Thing, Said Mickey Fickey said
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. I thought it was so great, Mickey Finkey,
Speaker 1: Nicky Fickey. That's fun. That's sort of a good stand in.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's sort of making the same sounds Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh Landi's good, says Wes Anderson. Um olive dogs, fantastic.
Speaker 1: Mr Foxman, Rice Kingdom lands me in a nostalgic and
Speaker 1: dreamy world. Oh no, his new movie too. We get
Speaker 1: we're getting screwed on. They bumped that one man. Okay,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait minute. Did you hear about the
Speaker 1: Mulan situation on Disney Plus what or not like that?
Speaker 1: So they're putting out Milan on Disney Plus live action.
Speaker 1: The live action was looks pretty cool. Um. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like when I was like super excited about but it
Speaker 1: looks cool. It looks kind of Crouching Tiger hidden dragon esque. Um.
Speaker 1: And they're putting it on Disney Plus for thirty bucks.
Speaker 1: But you get it forever as long as you have
Speaker 1: the subscription. It's not like a one time thing and
Speaker 1: then it's gone. It's sort of like buying the movie
Speaker 1: for your Disney Plus account. As long as you have
Speaker 1: a Disney Plus account, you'll have the movie. And again,
Speaker 1: like to your point, if you have like a little
Speaker 1: watch party with like five or six folks, thirty bucks
Speaker 1: isn't bad at all. Yeah, I mean I'm interested in
Speaker 1: that meeting where they're like, how how do you think
Speaker 1: we can go here? Like the other movies have tapped
Speaker 1: out at so another ten. I mean, it's a big
Speaker 1: budget movie. My friend Stacy worked on that went all
Speaker 1: over the World, moll Dressing people, Josh Brennan's With You
Speaker 1: and Old Jurassic Park. Such a good movie, just pitch perfect.
Speaker 1: And we talked about this, like Spielberg really just knows
Speaker 1: how to make a damn movie. Like that's the most
Speaker 1: like obvious statement of of our that's Spielberg. He's really
Speaker 1: going places with these these movies. But no, there's something
Speaker 1: about every frame, something happens that draws your eye creatively
Speaker 1: or some clever bit of you know, repartee between the characters.
Speaker 1: Just always something like it's it's just it really just
Speaker 1: keeps you, keeps you invested. It's always something with the Spielberg,
Speaker 1: the Spielberg character. Alright, No, there's there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: favorites on here. I think we should wrap it up though.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm seeing Holy Grail, League of their Own Glory, Predator,
Speaker 1: Pulp Fiction, Big Lebowski again, Fried Green Tomatoes. These are
Speaker 1: all just comforting movies that everyone loves. General how do
Speaker 1: you feel about Predator to Chuck and I've never seen it.
Speaker 1: Is that a movie? Yeah, it's pretty funny. It's it
Speaker 1: takes place in the super dystopian l a where like
Speaker 1: drug gangs just run the streets like literally just melee
Speaker 1: machine gun fights in the middle of the streets with
Speaker 1: Danny Glover, you know, popping out with his glock and
Speaker 1: just taking out these drug dealer kind of zombie types.
Speaker 1: And there's some really problematic scenes with some Jamaican gang
Speaker 1: members that just does not play well. Uh they're doing
Speaker 1: like voodoo and ship like It's just it really did
Speaker 1: not age well. Um. But overall it is a bonkers, absurd,
Speaker 1: over the top, like almost trauma level bonkers kind of movie.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll check it out one day. All right, everybody,
Speaker 1: that's it for this week. Thanks for dropping into Mr Nol,
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