WEBVTT - Mini Crush #131 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.640 Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.680 Hey everybody, and welcome to Mini Crush. Monday m u 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:37.839 n d y. You know what I mean is that 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.839 that's sort of like a Canadian uh pronunciation of Monday 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.960 here you Sam? Sorry, sorry mom? And Monday no mondy 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.600 is a little more Midwestern. I'm trying to latch onto 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.479 something here, Chuck. I don't know. I got nothing, man, 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.120 How are you? I'm fine? I don't know what Monday is? 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.880 What what people say that Monday? We think? I think 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.840 we did this before where there's that, you know, Monday Monday, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.240 but they don't say it that way. Today they say 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.920 Monday Monday. They definitely enunciate it correctly. You know, I 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.600 got nothing, Chuck. I think it's a Midwestern thing, like 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.000 Monday week. You know, wait where if you people say 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:18.760 Monday week? Uh yeah, that's um that feels antiquated. But 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.759 does feel antiquated, doesn't it? You know what else is antiquated? Chuck? 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:27.199 Cinema I think it's on the way out. Honestly, man, 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.240 it's really starting to catch up to me not having 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.880 new movies for a while. I was like, you know, 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.920 I'm fine. Plenty of movies out there to watch. But 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.720 at least we're getting some snoow stuff on the streaming services, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.360 you know, and some good beefied series. You know. Have 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.320 you seen that I Will Destroy You? Yeah, I've heard it. Still, 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.760 I really miss my tentpoles, your tim I missed, but 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.200 I missed my tipole I wanted. I wanted The Heights 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:58.760 and James Bond and Top Gun and that Nolan movie 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.400 The Heights. Is that the lin Manuel Miranda. I'm just 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.760 I wanted all that stuff. I was looking forward to 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:09.760 all that stuff. Yeah. Um, well, good news. You've you 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.240 told me some good news last week, I think. But 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:17.280 my ex is husband, who works in film, uh, got 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.560 a big, long running gig on The Walking Dead that 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.239 he was very comfortable with, and he's been super cautious 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.680 about the whole COVID thing. You know. Really it was 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.360 uncomfortable with certain jobs that were offered to him because 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.200 he didn't feel like they were taking it seriously in 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.560 the you know, social distance aspect of it, which, as 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.000 we know, I mean, it's fucking hard with movies and 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.600 you're working with big cruise. But he seemed very confident 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.560 that this Walking Dead situation was going to be to 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.400 his comfort level. And it's like a year and a 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.240 half job. So what does he do. He's like a 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.160 set builder carpenter and he does he does all the 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:55.959 big heavy lifting man things. M hm oh no. Uh 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.760 so I'm talking with Bill Gates in like four hours. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.680 How exciting is that? Again? Yeah? Again? He remember that 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.400 time we went to New York and hung out with 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:10.000 Bill Gates. He with He came calling again, Nol and yeah, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.520 he's a little disappointed You're not gonna be there this time. Man, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.160 We really, we really had a report, Chuck. I know 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.000 you guys broke up big time. What's the deal with 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.280 another one of his h clean energy initiatives? He wants 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.880 to talk to you and Josh about No. I mean 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.560 he's you know, he's all COVID all the time. That 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:32.320 makes sense. He wants to talk about vaccines and therapeutics 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.680 and yeah, we said sure, and we're gonna do a 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.960 short stuff with them and just sort of have it 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:42.160 be the episode. That's cool man, Yeah, because he was 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.880 he kind of predicted this whole thing early, like in 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.680 a Ted talk. He did this Ted talk where he 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:49.840 was really talking about how underprepared we would be for 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.600 such a some very similar event. And you know, of 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.440 course he was right, Um, but he also was getting 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.240 a lot of like a lot of these conspiracy nuts 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:02.680 think like it's him and the global elite. He created 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.400 this for population control and to profit off of vaccine 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.480 because you know, Bill Gates Nol. He is, uh, he's 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.480 not rich enough. He wants more money and he's willing 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.400 to kill millions of people to get it. Oh yeah, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.920 I've always thought of him as a pure Monty Burns 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.240 l evil. You know, man, he is a genuinely good 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.400 human trying to do his best to leave behind a 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.120 legacy on planet Earth. So and he who says all 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.360 that stuff they can just stick it up their butth 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.240 hole nol up right up their butt hole, which is 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.400 what you used to refer to the anatomical part. But 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:41.520 not people. People are assholes. Butt holes are exactly I 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.400 will say, Chuck when I when we when we met 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.120 him that time, and this was in this hotel room. Um, 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.719 he had very low profile security. I was very taken 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.400 by how like chill he was and how not like 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.160 it was very just like, you know, like he was 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.919 a good, good dude. Call me Bill, that's uh, that 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.160 should be the name of his eventual Well, I'm where 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.600 he probably has had a few books written about him, 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.839 but exactly I don't know if he's written on one 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.839 about himself. Has he has he done a memoir? I 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:08.800 don't know. I don't think. I don't think so okay 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.640 should be called me Bill. That's good. You should pitch 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.040 that to him on the on the zoom call and 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:17.560 he have said, excuse me, it's Mr Gates. Yes, and 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:22.680 then he steeples his fingers like Monty Burns and laughs ominously. So, nol, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.320 I want to give you another thank you and another 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.640 plug for the podcast Rivals, the podcast that you what 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:29.960 are you doing for that? You produce it? Are you 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.080 sort of the high level producer on that? In the 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.240 EP of that web I developed it, you know, with 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:38.160 the hosts and with the production team, And uh, couldn't 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.880 be cooler, dudes. Jordan's one of the hosts in particular, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.360 is working with us on a lot of other stuff 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:43.960 and he's just one of my favorite human beings on 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.960 the goddamn planet. Yeah, he sounds like a super nice guy, 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.440 and um, I'm just enjoying it. For those of you 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.080 that haven't heard us talk about it. It's a show 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.640 about famous musical rivals. Uh, these guys are just very 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.720 affable and listen to bowl and um that that's kind 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.840 of the big appeal of the show I think is 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:05.000 they're not snobby, they're not jerks. They're just very listenable, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.920 approachable guys. That means a lot coming from you, Chuck, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.279 because you guys are kind of the model for that. Honestly. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.160 In podcast, you and you and Josh are sort of like, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.040 let's learn something, let's hang out with some dudes that 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.599 we would want to be in conversation with, and that's 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:23.360 what makes it broadly appealing. UM music is still so 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.960 niche though, like in General Music podcast, they're not gonna's growing. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.719 It's growing though, and like there's such so good at it. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.800 I'm I couldn't be more pleased. They had never met 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.919 before we I literally connected them on a call and 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.960 then they met in person once and the rest of 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.520 the recordings have been remote. They've literally recorded in person 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.320 one time, and they developed that rapport over time, and 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.680 it really is hitting a stride. I'm so proud of 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.720 those guys in that show. Thanks so listening. I already 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.760 I went back yesterday because I'm just sort of jumping 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.599 around and checked out the pilot episode on Stevie Nicks 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.680 and Lindsay Buckingham and uh, you know, pilots are tough, 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.960 and they did a really good job. That was before 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:05.000 better then, but it's um, it was really solid, awesome man. Uh, well, 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.760 feel free to talk about this on on stuff you 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.800 should know as well. Certainly we would love to have 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.080 some more. I talked back to him the whole time. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.480 I'm like, the whole time, I'm sure we would love 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.000 to have you on the show that they had an 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.880 episode that Billy Joel, Elton John episode, like all of 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.200 them to leave on Helm Robbie Robertson. I'm just like 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.960 saying things back to these guys. So yeah, no, that's 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.480 great man, That's that's really that's a such a cool endorsement. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.160 I will pass that on to to the to the guys. Yeah, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.520 maybe I'll have helped them on Movie Crush at some 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.320 point too. A million percent. Yes, they're into all kinds 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.760 of pop culture. Steve sorry does yes. Steve Hayden has 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.600 written several books as well that you might take one 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.640 of them. Uh, he did a radio Head book, but 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.560 he also did this one called your favorite band is 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.679 killing You. That's all about like rivalries. So he literally wrote, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.040 it's not the book, at least a book on most rivalries. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:08:05.280 So yeah, good, good dude. All right, nol. So what 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.080 we're gonna do. We're gonna kick it off this week 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:11.920 with Uh. I finally saw Hamilton's Um on Disney plus 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.400 the filmed version of the original cast recording of the 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:21.400 Broadway show, and uh, we watched it Sunday night, all 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.920 the way through. And you know, we had listened to 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.320 the music for a while now, so we knew the show, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.160 but seeing it performed, especially from that original cast, really 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.840 just brings it to life, of course in so many 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.160 different ways. And man, I was just floored. It was 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.760 just amazing. Beyond the music, which was already, like I said, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:45.160 I knew, was great, the production was just so creative, um, 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.200 very low fi and that just not a lot of 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.600 big bells and whistles they did with a lot with 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.520 a little which I think was super smart and let 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.600 the music shine and let the cash shine, you know, 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.280 the music pretty well going in and all are you 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:04.439 okay cool? Yeah? And the that that spinning, that spinning 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.679 stage in the center was just so smart and creative, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.680 and there's so many different things they could do with that, 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.640 and they just used it so well. I just um, 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.120 the costuming, um, the book, everything was just off the 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:21.640 charts great, not overhyped. It deserves every bit of it. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.520 I will say, I saw your hot take on Facebook 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.280 that I still something. I've seen a lot of people 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.120 say that that lin Manuel Mirandez the lead was a 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:34.319 little bit underpowered. Yeah, I mean I felt the need 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:35.959 to say something to kind of stick up for him 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.440 because I've seen a lot of people saying that a 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.200 couple of things on that nill you if you're the 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.120 genius who comes up with this idea and this execution 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.040 and those songs, you get to do whatever the funk 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:52.320 you want, you get to play Hamilton's uh. And also 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:55.439 you know, no, he's not quite up to their level. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:10:00.600 But um, Broadway singers are the best singers in the world, right, 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:05.320 they're the best. Um. I mean, I guess you can 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.200 make cases for the biggest pop stars, but you know, 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.880 even the biggest pop stars lean on auto tune. Even 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.079 if you don't think they do, they do. They get 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.319 in there with that pro tools and make it sound perfect. Well, 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.600 there's so much physicality and Broadway. I mean, you have 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.800 to be able to sing for real every night multiple shows, 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:25.360 and move your ass and and act and like get 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.160 in and out of costume and all of the behind 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.560 the scenes stuff you don't even see. Stresses me out 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.840 just thinking about it, you know what I mean, to 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.320 have it go off like that, So you can't really 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.120 compare him to that. He is not quite like he 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:37.960 would not be the lead in a Broadway show had 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.920 he not written a Broadway show. But it's not like 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:42.599 he was bad. He was. He was good. He was 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:47.600 really good. He's a good singer, he's a really good rapper. Um. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.000 And then you just can't say, like, well, he's not 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.920 Broadway level. I thought he brought something different to it. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.600 It was great. I brought it up because I agree. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.120 I didn't find it to be lacking. I thought it 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.320 was just it had he had a character. I mean 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.600 it's said to like as like this scrappy, it made 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.080 sense for the character, you know what I mean. Yeah, Um, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.640 I I thought he did a fantastic job, and I 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.240 was just I only brought it up because I've seen 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.000 so many people dogging on him about it, and I'm like, 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.280 what what's your problem? Like? It seems like a bit 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.920 of an hollow criticism. You know, It's like here ten 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.240 people that sing perfectly and can do anything, and then 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.440 here's another guy with a lot of character and the 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.840 emotion he brings to it, And I just I thought 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.640 it was great. I loved it. So I asked the crushers, 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.520 because boy, they love Hamilton's um, let's just hear about 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.480 your favorite overall moment. It's a show of moments, could 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:38.400 be a number, could be a glance, it could be 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.640 a small piece of acting. Um, and we'll go ahead 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.160 and get it going here. And I'm not gonna read 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:49.440 any hater, no hater speech. I'm gonna let people just 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.880 shower this with praise. Are you gonna read Bill Hayter's comment? 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.040 Oh god, I wish let me see here. Jessica Foley says, 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.920 King George my absolute favorite part. Yeah, Groff kills it. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.800 He was he was funny, he sings great. It was 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.960 that that uh sort of a solo Greek chorus that 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.920 was in comic relief. That was so necessary. I think 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.599 in the movie. Did you see it all yet or 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.440 did you just watch the first part. I've seen about 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.160 three quarters, okay, and it's it's it's the long I 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.200 need to finish the ends. It's not that long, I know, 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:28.800 but uh And then she says the Skylar Sisters and 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.199 Angelica's line in particular. But when I meet Thomas Jefferson, 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.000 I'm gonna convince him to include women in the sequel work. 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.120 That was a good part. That that number is fantastic. 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.200 Greta Mansfield says, Philippa Sue and Renee Elise Goldsberry were 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.080 fabulous as Eliza and Angelica. Great singers, stole the show 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.280 when they're on stage. Also loved the rat battle with 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.760 David Diggs. Yeah, the rat battles were cool. Um. I 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.320 like the way they did that. I don't know if 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.600 you've got into that part yet, but it's the only 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:01.080 time they held microphones. Oh no, I I just think 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.120 about when he introduced himself and they're like pounding on 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.400 the table and stuff like that kind of look at that. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.240 It's not a rap battle, but it's definitely like a 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.920 multi like almost like a Wu Tang situation where it's 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.920 like a crew kind of trading versus. You know. That 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:15.880 was great. Now, I guess you haven't gotten to the 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.640 rat battle that's later on when um, it's a it's 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.240 a debate, a policy debate framed as a rap battle, 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.480 which is got And it was just so creative, you know, 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.520 all this stuff to take what a Bunker's idea. It's like, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.400 I let's tell the story of Thomas Jefferson, I'm sorry 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.200 of Hamilton's and Jefferson on Broadway, and let's set it 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.280 to hip hop and also pop in some sort of 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.280 old school Broadway sounds. It was like a range of 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:43.040 styles in it just kind of a nuts idea. Well 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.000 also that you sort of hinted this, but the way 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:50.439 it was filmed was better than any like Broadway TV 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.960 thing I've ever seen, because it made you a feel 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.640 like you were there. But it also got cinematic at 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.679 times where the camera would like push in on the 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.240 actual stage and I kind of wonder how they did. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.960 They must have been on this big booms or whatever. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.920 But like, uh, it had a really cool vibe, you know, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.000 like where you kind of felt like you were a spectator, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.880 but then you also felt like you were in the 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.240 show at certain times. Yeah, and a lot of the 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.559 people who saw it live said they really enjoyed the 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.240 Disney plus a dish because they could just see so 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.840 much more expression and all these subtle sort of facial cues. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.400 Good stuff. Josh Brennan says the Battle of Yorktown probably 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.320 my favorite. So good, especially Hercules Mulligan coming in with 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.920 his rap section. Oh boy, he's great. Um and Dear 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.680 Theodosia is so sweet, such a great melody, not to 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.840 mention some real raw sentiment for any parent. Yeah, Dear 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.480 Theodosia's boy. And I learned how to play that on 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:45.360 the on the guitar. I'm gonna do it. You should, dude, 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.480 I am Noel. That's what I just said. I would 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.640 like for you to do that. Check. I support you 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.000 learning this song and said it to me that now 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.960 that I'm finally all ensconced in my studio and I'll 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.400 actually get back to dicking with some of these tunes 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.480 we've been talking about. You're two tunes, I know, dude, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.200 I know, and I'm gonna load them up. You just 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.240 reminded me. Let me see here. Emily Newton says, not 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.040 a moment, not a moment in the show, but the 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.560 use of color. Did anyone else notice in the second 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.680 act as green Suit that darkened in color as he aged, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.600 I'm assuming it was green because money, it was pretty awesome. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:23.720 I want to look for more use of color like that. Yeah, Emily, 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.280 I don't know if you were a mad Men watcher, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.680 but there was this great uh. I think that's a 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.640 blog about mad Men and their use of color with 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:36.000 the costuming that goes really deep, super interesting. Same with 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.240 Breaking Bad. Yeah, Walter White's kind of transformation and that 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:43.760 was really mirrored by the change in his wardrobe color scheme. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.960 But he starts off wearing this like lime green and 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.120 gradually I forget it even gets darker in tone or 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.760 what happens exactly. But there's a bunch of blogs specifically 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.760 talking about Breaking Bad the colored use as well. Very cool. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.600 I love it. Jacob Johnson says, I want to be 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.080 in the room where it happens, the room where it happens. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.560 Burr is a powerhouse performer. It's that point in the 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.840 show you fully understand where their character is coming from. Yeah, 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.920 that's a that's a tough role to play the villain. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:15.120 You know, he killed it so so good. That guy 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:19.280 Leslie Odom Jr. Is on someone who one of my 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.440 podcasts hosts actually kind of sort of discovered, I guess, 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.720 or at least signed to his label s Curve Records. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:26.640 It's guy Steve Greenberg who does this show with us 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.240 called The Speed of Sound just launched. Check that out 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.920 wherever you get podcasts. But yeah, he was very instrumental 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.800 in Leslie Odom Jr. Kind of coming into his his 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.920 own boy. He was good. Uh. Lennia Barnett brings up 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.880 a point that I love Noel blown away by the 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.640 stage direction, especially the rotating section. Also, the bullet as 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.480 a character throughout the entire show was really well done. Yeah. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.440 I noticed that. And they don't really spell out exactly 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.440 what they're doing there. You just kind of have to 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.400 watch closely and you're like, oh, that lady's a bullet 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:03.560 coming from the gun. Very neat, very creative. Uh. Div Digs, 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.800 he just steals the show. It's hard to pick a 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.320 favorite when you've got someone like Digs on stage. He 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:14.840 plays two characters, right, Yeah, he plays uh Jefferson then 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.200 market to Lafiette in the beginning with a great French accent. 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.600 It's funny. I was just sort of had some regret 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.320 that I hadn't seen Hamilton's when I interviewed him. Um, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.440 because I just sort of mentioned it briefly. But now 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.440 that I look back, I'm sure he was. I'm sure 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.200 he liked that. He probably was sick of talking about 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:38.160 Hamilton's and really wanted to talk about Blind Spotting, so um, 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:42.359 he sort of came across as appreciative afterward. And I'm 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.080 glad I would not have been able to not talk 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.040 about Hamilton's had I've seen it, So it's probably a 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.960 good thing. Greg Hudson agrees, King George seen Steeler and 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.320 usually my favorite moments Brian Long the opening thirty minutes, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.919 such an impressive start, so much talent on the stage. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:03.359 Josh Toco all loves Dear Theodosia, such a sweet song, Noll. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.000 There was a lot of tears flowing in our house. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.520 You know, I can't I can't wait to hear you play. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.000 I don't think I'm gonna even watch the rest of 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.560 the movie. I just want to hear your version here, 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.960 you're I want to hear your interpretation. Well, Emily, I 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.720 would have to do it together because it's got great, 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:23.480 great harmonies. All the better. Mike Sam says, dig steals 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:27.000 the show. Philip A. Sou beyond amazing. Renee. At least 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.840 Goldsberry comes out of nowhere, which is funny because she 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.560 is in her late forties and she's been around the block. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.240 Groff is the man, but I'm gonna pick a smaller moment. 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.920 At one point, Washington tells Hamilton's dying is easy, young man, 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:44.160 living is harder. Later, in a reprise, Washington tells Hamilton's 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.560 winning is easy, young man, Governing is harder. Yeah, there 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.840 was a lot of subtle stuff like that. A boy 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.440 who was the guy who played Washington. He was fucking great. Yeah, 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:55.959 I don't know. I didn't recognize him, but he did. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:00.399 I did make it to his first big scene, I think. Uh. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.840 I think one of my favorite moments of the show. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:09.399 Uh was when he retires and that whole sequence where 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:14.040 Hamilton's is charged with writing his retirement speech and they 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.760 kind of juxtas they kind of pass each other as 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.600 like they're singing at the same time, but Hamilton's front 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.040 of stage, and then Washington kind of comes out and 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.879 takes over as Hamilton's fades into the background. Uh. And 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.639 then just the whole notion of like this man that 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.520 did so much for our country, George Washington, like would 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.520 have been a shoe in for reelection and just wanted 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:38.800 to go home to Mountain Vernon and farm. Very sad 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.439 and you know, in a good way. Now, how do 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.120 you feel about this criticism that they just completely gloss 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.280 over the fact that all these men were slave owners? 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:52.680 You know, I mean, that's not the show they were making. Um, 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:59.400 you can pick apart anything if you don't do accurate 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:04.440 historical retelling. I just I don't know. I think he 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.320 had a story to tell and he told it well, 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.320 of course, and I'm just being Devil's abog here. And 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:14.400 obviously there's some power in casting it with all black casts, 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:16.760 and that's sort of part of it where it's like 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.359 we're re what's the word, I mean, I guess re 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:24.000 contextualizing the story. We can still be patriotic and appreciate 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.760 aspects of history without having to condemn people that did 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.119 great things but also did horrible things. It's like it's 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.840 sort of the idea of like separating the art from 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:35.960 the artists. It's different than that, but it's like, you 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.879 know what I mean, Obviously there's some reverence for these figures, 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.080 but also you know, we all know that they were 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:46.359 very complicated figures. They also did some shitty stuff. Um, 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.359 I would be interested to hear Lenn Manuel Miranda talk 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.679 about that aspect of it. I just I mean in 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:53.879 recent weeks, sure, because it came out on Disney Plus 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.760 and then everyone decided to like start hitting him upside 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:58.879 the head with a hammer because he didn't do it 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.080 exactly how they wanted. It just annoys me. Noll, No, 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.520 I I feel it's a great musical heat. You know, 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.800 have you seen the Beyonce movie. No, I have not. 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.520 It just came out on Disney Plus. Well, that looks fantastic. 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.160 She's great too, Joshua Hall says, one Last Time gets 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.480 me every time. Yeah, that's what I was just talking about. 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:25.480 Chris Jackson, that's his name. One Last Time so good. 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.800 Nol Wait for It My favorite song. This is from 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.920 Nick Kelly. Seeing in real life was truly something as 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.320