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Speaker 2: The World's a Vigeon podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: There are guys that like they'll do like ten twelve

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Speaker 3: But I trot us fell last week.

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Speaker 5: I did no.

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Speaker 3: I thought my knee Like girls were making and you

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Speaker 3: could tell that there was some tension. I'm staying on

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Speaker 3: my dad. At the end of the period.

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Speaker 2: My Dad's like, I'm gonna go get a.

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Speaker 3: Drinker, go about whatever. He walks away, and I'm standing

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Speaker 3: there waiting for the example. And you go around around

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you just see like a

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Speaker 6: The stands and it's like, oh, you know, like people falling,

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Speaker 6: and it's like, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: And then things But your dad just fought Andy Patterson. Dude,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what.

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking about forever. I'm talking about right now.

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Speaker 5: I'd be much rather be Miami. Yeah, we fixed some

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Speaker 5: things over here and we can be a contender, right.

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Speaker 3: I think that team is soft, so.

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Speaker 5: You're missing my point. I'm talking about the caliber of

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Speaker 5: team forgetting the close out. The Patriots are light years

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Speaker 5: away from that, and they'll.

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Speaker 7: Keep drafting Chop Robinson's and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: That's he's not listening.

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Speaker 5: You know what he's doing. He's doing because I wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: He's being and yeah, okay, but he's being intentionally of toos.

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Speaker 2: This isn't that. This isn't that type of draft. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be wearing a tous It's more

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Speaker 2: of a workman like draft. I might be wearing a

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Speaker 2: blue Coala.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, and we've got a full crew over

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Speaker 2: the combine. Later in the show, Deuce and or Evan

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Speaker 2: will be calling in. Do we know, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think they're both going to be on it.

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Speaker 2: Oh both, okay, So we'll have that around the one

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Speaker 2: o'clock hour. What did you say? You told me something

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Speaker 5: That was what your producer.

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Speaker 2: Told So around that time they'll be calling in with

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Speaker 2: their thoughts so far at the combine, it's Alex, it's Paul,

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Speaker 2: Evan are in Indie with our team of content producers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so what's going on getting it done there? Mike Rabel

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Speaker 2: I will say the one word that stoock out for me,

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Speaker 2: He's confident in himself. I think he's confident in his program,

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Speaker 2: That's that's the one word that stood out for me.

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Speaker 5: What about you guys, I would say he's definitely much

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to come down, Yeah I don't. I'm

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Speaker 5: You know, so like we can talk about a lot

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Speaker 5: But that's the bottom line. Can they can they improve

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree the way Alex said it, because

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Speaker 2: Listen, there was boiler plate stuff in in February. I

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Speaker 5: So I don't think that what he said was all

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Speaker 9: It wasn't so much it's the contradicting him, right.

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Speaker 9: The contradictions, and then like the corporate jargon to where

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Speaker 9: you say a lot and it really doesn't mean anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we like football jargon where you say a lot

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Speaker 5: Like your parcels thing is is dead on. Mike is

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Speaker 2: You don't want that, right, you know, as a fan

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Speaker 5: It wasn't what Mayo was saying. It was that he

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Speaker 5: The one thing that I would say, football wise, that

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Speaker 2: To strike to see. I'm my philosophy is not so

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Speaker 9: So I think he's pretty media trained. I listened to

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Speaker 5: Patriot crowd, then Chris Long would be though true.

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Speaker 9: I think it's like a safe place to do that

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Speaker 9: Drake is really media trained. I listened to it. I

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Speaker 2: Right exactly? So I'm just old school like that, Paul.

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Speaker 5: You don't agree, no, you know, you know I agree

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Speaker 5: I'm not taking me down with you. I'm only not doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm only kidding, just kidding, having fun. Tuition, there's a

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Speaker 9: Take what's There's a lot of jobs you can go

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Speaker 5: that happens during my lunch, Like okay, you know, like

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Speaker 2: I take vacation?

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Speaker 5: There was a day ending and.

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Speaker 2: Day exactly when didn't I have a stain on my shirt?

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Speaker 9: You don't carry him around, I should.

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Speaker 9: Maybe we can get you a sponsorship deal.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's like we were saying with the coaching staff

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Speaker 2: the email for the podcast is podcasts at Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 2: So that's the way you interact with the show.

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Speaker 9: Podcast with an S.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with an S. All right, anything else before we

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Speaker 5: I would turn it over to the funds because we

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Speaker 2: I wish Evan was here because a lot of them

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Speaker 9: Fun when he's not here to defend himself.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't it well exactly.

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Speaker 9: That's why it's more fun.

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Speaker 2: When it's just Chris and Foxborough right down the street.

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Speaker 2: the Patriots picked Ty Warren at pick four or trading

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Speaker 2: back slightly, he would be a great changer. I don't

439
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Speaker 2: think he meant Ty Warren right, who's he. Who's he

440
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Speaker 2: talking about?

441
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Speaker 5: The tight end from Penn State.

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Speaker 2: His name is ty Warren. It's Tyler Tyler. I'm sorry, Yeah, okay.

443
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Speaker 4: All right.

444
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Speaker 9: Tyler is such a short name to even need a

445
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Speaker 9: nickname for he would.

446
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Speaker 5: Be a good funny though. I've never done that. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 5: ty Warren, You've never done that.

448
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Speaker 2: No, that's the first time I've seen anyone, you know,

449
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Speaker 2: refer to Tyler Warren as ty Warren. And I started

450
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Speaker 2: going back to our ty Warren, and I was thinking

451
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Speaker 2: that Chris and Foxbor was saying, pick a guy like

452
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Speaker 2: ty Warn you know what I mean. So, but no,

453
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Speaker 2: he's actually talking about the Tyler Warren from Penn State.

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Speaker 2: So before we get into his suggestion, which is the

455
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Speaker 2: next part of his email, you know, Tyler Warren. At four,

456
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Speaker 2: a lot of people said, oh, he's not worth a

457
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Speaker 2: four other than Hunter and maybe Abdul Carter, there is

458
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Speaker 2: no player in this draft worth a fourth round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: Would you agree?

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Speaker 5: Really, that's according to the experts. You have to pat somebody,

461
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Speaker 5: so someone's gonna get taken for.

462
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Speaker 2: It, no matter who anybody picks, if it's the Patriots

463
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Speaker 2: or somebody else. At four, people are gonna say he's

464
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Speaker 2: not worth a fourth, but you got to pick somebody at.

465
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Speaker 5: Fource gets to my rant from last week, and I

466
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Speaker 5: get it, and I'm taking it at face value. These

467
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Speaker 5: guys know a lot more about these prospects than I

468
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Speaker 5: ever will. However, that said, there are gonna be people

469
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Speaker 5: taken fourth, fifth, twelfth, eighteenth, twenty seven. They're gonna be

470
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Speaker 5: really really good players taken. You need to figure out

471
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Speaker 5: which ones they are, right. That's what makes it hard,

472
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Speaker 5: YEP is trying to identify in a pool of twenty

473
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Speaker 5: to forty that everybody says is the same twenty to

474
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Speaker 5: fifty virtually the same guy. I want to make sure

475
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Speaker 5: that I get the guy who's better than the other ones, right,

476
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Speaker 5: who ultimately ends up being better. That's the that's the trick.

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Speaker 2: There's been no draft where guys haven't been drafted and

478
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Speaker 2: then became good contributors to teams. You know, that's right,

479
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Speaker 2: That's never happened.

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Speaker 5: There's never been a draft that was completely beat of

481
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Speaker 5: any ability at all. Right, So there's going to be

482
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Speaker 5: Pro Bowl players in the draft.

483
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Speaker 2: That's said. That's said, like I asked you to read.

484
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Speaker 5: The emails, I'm asking him to find them find.

485
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Speaker 2: The draft pick that's said, I guarantee somebody will be

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Speaker 2: picked at four.

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Speaker 5: So if if for argument's sake, you end up picking

488
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Speaker 5: Will Campbell at four and he ends up being a

489
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Speaker 5: tremendous left tackle eight time all pro, do you think

490
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Speaker 5: anyone's going to say it wasn't worth the fourth part.

491
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Speaker 2: Of the draft.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like you could have gotten him at you

493
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Speaker 5: could have gotten him at eight. Yep, no one's going

494
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Speaker 5: to say that. You just have to make sure you

495
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Speaker 5: hit right. Whoever you take, he's got to be I mean,

496
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Speaker 5: really good players.

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Speaker 2: I know you disagree with me, but I remember when

498
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Speaker 2: Devin mccordy was chosen at the end of the first round.

499
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Speaker 2: I thought that was the reach. I didn't think. But

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Speaker 2: he's sure as hell is worth that pick. I mean,

501
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Speaker 2: when you have a guy with that type of career.

502
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Speaker 5: For your team, regardless of that, that's a great example,

503
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 5: regardless of an argumentister, who was where he was supposed

504
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Speaker 5: to get picked. He ended up being a good pick. Right,

505
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Speaker 5: So if he was supposed to go at thirty eight

506
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 5: instead of thirty two, would that matter to you? No,

507
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 5: who cares?

508
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Speaker 2: And if you picked him at eighteen instead of thirty eight.

509
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Speaker 2: It's still a good pick right now. His suggestion, can

510
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Speaker 2: you please stop letting Evan Lazar speak about anything other

511
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: than football? He acts like an expert in his wrong

512
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Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of the time. I hope he's listening.

513
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Speaker 2: The last straw was when he answered Fred about the

514
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Speaker 2: basketball arena in Indy known as the Barn. He went

515
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Speaker 2: on and on about how it was Conseco field House,

516
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Speaker 2: the home of the Pacers, and didn't let anyone else answer.

517
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Speaker 2: He of course, was dead wrong, like he always is

518
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Speaker 2: about basketball. As anyone who knows anything about basketball or

519
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: Brad Stevens knows that the Barn is home to Butler.

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Speaker 5: Butler Field House. I've never I mean yeah, I've never.

521
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 5: I've been there.

522
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Speaker 2: The Hinkelfield House is known as the Barn in Indiana's

523
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Speaker 2: basketball cathedral. Nobody refers to Conseko as the Barn, despite

524
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Speaker 2: what Evan was saying.

525
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I've been to Hinkelfield House. I've not

526
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 5: heard it referred to as the Barn. But this guy

527
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 5: obviously would know more about it than I would, and

528
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 5: unlike Evan, I wouldn't snap back.

529
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Speaker 2: And it's just that I'm right, So it's home to Butler.

530
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Speaker 2: This happens all the time when the topic strays from

531
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Speaker 2: football and goes to social media platforms, basketball, especially nesson

532
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Speaker 2: three sixty, and really any topic other than football. I

533
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Speaker 2: love what he adds to the draft talk, although he

534
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: is no bar Ooh that's gonna hurt. That's the biggest

535
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Speaker 2: thing that's going to leave a mark.

536
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Speaker 5: Good job.

537
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: But maybe someone should tell him to sit out the

538
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: non football talk moving forward to avoid continuing to embarrass

539
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Speaker 2: himself and frustrate the audience. As an emailer said last summer,

540
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Speaker 2: he's the Elaine Bennis of the show as a feminine,

541
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Speaker 2: slightly annoying side character. Wow.

542
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 9: Wow, a feminine annoying sidekiar Wow. That might be an

543
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Speaker 9: email of the week that might get actually printed out

544
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Speaker 9: hard copy and just magnet and blown up on his

545
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Speaker 9: desk when he returns. Maybe we'll have a group.

546
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Speaker 2: But yeah, can I ask you?

547
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 5: We have time here, we can take a Can we

548
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 5: take like a thirty second.

549
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Speaker 2: Aside? Yeah?

550
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Speaker 5: I think that's a controversial Seinfeld.

551
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Speaker 2: Take Elaine Bennis annoying?

552
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Do you not like?

553
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Speaker 2: Well, they're all annoying in their own way, but they're

554
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Speaker 2: all great in their own way, and I don't find

555
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Speaker 2: her any more annoying than George.

556
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Speaker 5: I would. I think she's far less annoying than George,

557
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 5: and far less annoying than Kramer.

558
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, Kramer's not annoying. He's delightful.

559
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 9: Oh god, you need Kramer for like the relief.

560
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's annoying if you live next door to him.

561
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Speaker 2: But you know, as a character on the show.

562
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Speaker 5: I mean I felt like was was the best character,

563
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 5: not the not the worst, the best character.

564
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, yeah, she's pretty, Not really, she's Oh come on,

565
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: she's cute.

566
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, especially that era, she's cute.

567
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, good word.

568
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a problem with that. I mean I

569
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 5: probably shouldn't say it on I can't think of her

570
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 5: that way because she kind of looked like my sister.

571
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: Oh hey, now, so when my sister at that time

572
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 5: she kind of had like long wavy hair, Elaine did

573
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Speaker 5: in the early episodes. So like, you're like, she's hot.

574
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, why can't you see that? It's my sister.

575
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 5: So maybe that's why I have a different But I

576
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 5: thought Elaine was a tremendous character on that show.

577
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: Oh they all were. I mean, they were all in

578
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: their in their own way, but it was one of

579
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: the great examples of ensemble casting ensemble.

580
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Speaker 5: Yes, okay, de wind, Okay, I give you forty five seconds.

581
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Speaker 5: I lied.

582
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the what are we calling

583
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: the hot line? The hot line? No, it's still TPX

584
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: until March first.

585
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: I would just go with the hot line myself.

586
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Speaker 9: But if we're phasing them.

587
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: Out, I mean, they paid until March first.

588
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 9: It's TPX hotline and we're going to it.

589
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: Christians in La, what's up, Christian?

590
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 11: Hey, Good morning you guys.

591
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: How are you good?

592
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 11: Has there been a situation where a team has been

593
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 11: a better prospect in next year's draft, and so they're

594
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 11: willing to trade or squak their first round pick this year,

595
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 11: not the second or third or things like that, but

596
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 11: their first position year with another team first or maybe

597
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 11: something else package with that to look at prospects the

598
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 11: next year that we think will be a better fit

599
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 11: for the top top spot. I'll take it up there,

600
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Speaker 11: thank you, guys.

601
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Speaker 2: Okay, anyone want to take a stab at that one?

602
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 5: I don't. I mean yeah, I mean the short answer

603
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 5: is yes, they're always looking at the draft classes and

604
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 5: sort of trying to evaluate them ahead of time, but

605
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: you wouldn't forfeit a draft pick, so you could pick

606
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Speaker 5: the following year when you have no idea if you're

607
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: going to be in position to pick whatever that guy

608
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 5: is that you have your eye on. Yeah, yeah, right,

609
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 5: And generally it's not an absolute thing, but in general terms,

610
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 5: when you trade a draft pick in a current year,

611
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 5: you get around better the following year.

612
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: Right.

613
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 5: So Bill used to often trade second round picks for

614
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Speaker 5: first round picks in the future.

615
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

616
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, I think the short answer to

617
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 5: Christian's question is, yes, you're always looking at the draft classes.

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Speaker 5: I would say probably not in the way that he

619
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Speaker 5: described it. I don't think. I don't think you would

620
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Speaker 5: trade the fourth overall pick because you have your eye

621
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Speaker 5: on someone in the next year's.

622
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Speaker 2: Draft, right. And usually Bill could do that because he

623
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: had a solid roster, right, he wasn't desperate, and I

624
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: don't you know not that. Yeah, I guess we could

625
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: say we are desperate this year, we're desperate to guys now,

626
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: but he.

627
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Speaker 5: I want to say, like at the end of like

628
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 5: the two thousands, you know they would be we're going

629
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Speaker 5: to trade out of the bottom of the first round

630
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: or you know, maybe trade an early second round pick

631
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Speaker 5: that we acquired and try to move up in future years.

632
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Speaker 5: And that's how they There was a lot of years

633
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 5: where they had multiple first round picks when they were

634
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 5: really good. Yeah, you know, like four they had will

635
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Speaker 5: faulkn Watson, you know, all the way to like twenty

636
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 5: twelve they got Chandler Jones and Dante high Tower. You know,

637
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 5: like that's part of how they were able to do that,

638
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 5: is making those kinds of trades for future picks. Not always,

639
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 5: but sometimes.

640
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Speaker 2: Let's see this is Nick writes in sent an email

641
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: earlier this year about being isolated from the Patriots due

642
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: to army training and just wanted to follow up, like

643
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: if you service. I left before the final regular season

644
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: game and emerge from the desert a day before the

645
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Made it home just in time to watch

646
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: the Chiefs lose, which was great to find out one

647
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: Gerard Mao was fired, Rabel hired, and number one pick

648
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: dropped to four. It was a lot to take in

649
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: not a football email, but I was listening to last

650
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: week's show where Paul suggested his son leaning towards the

651
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: Army after he earns his commission from the citadel. I

652
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: will go further to suggest what branch he should explore.

653
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: He should consider Air Defense, field artillery, or signal corps,

654
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: as they are some of the most oh uh oh,

655
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: as they are some of the most rewarding and fun

656
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: jobs he can find himself in. Alternately, alternately, alternately, Yes,

657
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: after Paul's son spends some time in the Army, he

658
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Speaker 2: can consider joining my branch, the JAG Corps, where he

659
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: can be an attorney for the Army. There is also

660
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Speaker 2: a program available to people like Paul's son where the

661
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Army will pay for his law school if he chooses

662
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: to become a JAG.

663
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Speaker 5: We've talked a little bit about you like Tom Cruise

664
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Speaker 5: jag court. I don't think that's something that's probably in

665
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 5: his future because his dyslexia really hurts him, and you know,

666
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: things that require a tremendous amount of reading, which law

667
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 5: school obviously would. But she talked about Army ranger school.

668
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 5: Some of those things that he mentioned are definitely in play.

669
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Speaker 5: I appreciate the advice. Good stuff, and thank you, thank

670
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 5: you for your service, and thank you for the advice.

671
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Speaker 2: YEP.

672
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Speaker 9: The idea of yeah, great job, very very diplomatic of

673
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 9: you the idea of like him missing this entire season,

674
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 9: like you probably couldn't have picked a better season to

675
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 9: just miss.

676
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: Right, that's true. I'd rather be in the desert than

677
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: have to go through last season again, Right about that?

678
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 5: That's a really inappropriate thing to say. But yes, you

679
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 5: know it was a good season to.

680
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Speaker 2: Miss, Scott writes in San Diego. Fred keeps saying that

681
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: the NFL is running into a talent gap. Not enough

682
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: American teenage boys playing football, so the NFL will struggle

683
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: to maintain the quality of the game. Is a true

684
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: some statistics. Two thousand and nine was the highest year

685
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: for high school football participation one point one million boys played.

686
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Speaker 2: By two thousand and four, the number drop nine point

687
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: two percent. Keep in mind that most experts predict a

688
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: downward trend in overall high school enrollment over the next

689
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: ten years. The number of boys available to play football

690
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: will decline, and the number of FBS football programs is rising.

691
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: In ninety eight, there were one hundred and twelve. Now

692
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: there's one hundred and thirty four. Here's the total picture.

693
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: Less high school boys are playing football. This will probably

694
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: go down more in the next decade because there'll be

695
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: fewer high school students overall, and there are more high

696
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: school level college programs who need players, talent will be

697
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: stretched thin across FBS teams. Fred is right. The United

698
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: States is moving gradually toward a football talent gap that

699
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: could impact the quality of play in the NFL.

700
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Speaker 5: So I agree with that. And when you and I

701
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 5: have been lockst up on this for a long time, Fred,

702
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 5: some might say we've been ahead of the curve. Yeah,

703
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 5: some of the college numbers are deceptive. They have added

704
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 5: some FBS teams, but most of those teams have gone

705
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 5: up from the FCS level. So one double A to

706
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 5: one A, right, the old dominions, the James Madison's, there's

707
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 5: been a lot of those. Coastal Carolina has been a

708
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 5: lot of those kinds of teams that have chosen to

709
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 5: go up. You masked, did it vocally?

710
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: Sorry? And there's only like one Division two teams with

711
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: Dakota right, that's the only team.

712
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 5: The one double A. No, the one double A has

713
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 5: really shrunk because at the same time that a lot

714
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 5: of those teams, basically one double A became a really

715
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 5: losing proposition, and even the ones that excelled at it

716
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 5: had a hard time making any money. So you will

717
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: face with a choice. You can either invest more resources

718
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 5: into your football program and go up. Some teams that

719
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 5: like the ones I mentioned, have done that. Others teams

720
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 5: like my alma mater and the team that I root for,

721
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 5: chose to go the other way and eliminated football Northeastern

722
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 5: and BU. Right, then there's a lot of ONEAA teams

723
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 5: that have done that.

724
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Speaker 4: Yep.

725
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 5: So I think the overall number I don't have this

726
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 5: in front of me, but I'm gonna guess a football

727
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 5: the overall number of Division one teams has shrunk while

728
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 5: the one A teams has increased. I'll bet you overall

729
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 5: there are fewer teams than their world.

730
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: So here's my message to the NFL. While promoting flag

731
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: football is all fine and good, right good, And how

732
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: are you promoting tackle football? How are you promoting what

733
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: I believe are the the great things about tackle football

734
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: and the fact that you can have guys of all

735
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: different shapes and sizes on one team, all, you know,

736
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: working toward one goal on every play. Like, let's start

737
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: promoting tackle football again. Let's you know, you know, like

738
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: by promoting war on it, you know, by by all

739
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: this emphasis on flag football this day. What do you

740
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: what's the background message? Oh, well, you know flag football.

741
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't want to play it. No, you do

742
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: want to play tackle football. So we've got to figure

743
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: out a way to promote that as much, if not

744
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: more than we're promoting flag football these days. For kids.

745
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: We got to get kids playing tackle football.

746
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 5: And like, you're sorry, you don't have to do that

747
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: at the elimination of flag, No you don't, I can be.

748
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 4: It is.

749
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Speaker 5: And if you want to have that to be for

750
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 5: younger kids, because you don't think, you know, like Deuce's

751
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 5: doctor friend, who's you know, very upset about the prospect

752
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 5: of young kids playing football. All right, So play flag

753
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: when you're young. And then I guess tell them not

754
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 5: to jump up for a ball and color out in

755
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: the air with someone because I've seen a crap ton

756
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 5: of concussions played football.

757
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: But and just aside from the goal of having more

758
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: players available for the NFL, how about just like tackle

759
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: football is a great game, there are more kids that

760
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: because they got on a tackle football team kind of

761
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: straighten their lives out, gave them direction, gave them that

762
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Speaker 2: sense of what it is to be a part of

763
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: a team and have a role within a team, whatever

764
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: that role is, anywhere from special teams to the quarterback.

765
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Speaker 2: There's something for everyone. And most high schools football is

766
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: a non cut sport. You go out for the team,

767
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: you make it. You might sit on the bench, but

768
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna be part of it. You're gonna be part

769
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: of practice. And you know, I think football separates itself

770
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: from all of the sports that way, and it's the

771
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: complexity of it and the teamwork that's required and the

772
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Speaker 2: different types of players that you need for each position.

773
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Speaker 2: There's no other team like, no other sport like it.

774
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Speaker 2: So let's start promoting tackle football again.

775
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 5: Can we do that?

776
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: Please?

777
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 9: Interesting conversation I had last week. Fred knows this, but

778
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 9: not to tease too much of the future story I'm

779
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 9: writing on Tolly Mantacaine, one of our alums. But he's

780
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 9: like launching with a business partner, this Beach Football League,

781
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 9: and part.

782
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: Of that's another story. Somebody's gotta get hurt.

783
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 9: Well, right, we're not talking about that. What was it

784
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 9: the Pro Bowl?

785
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Right?

786
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 9: But it's interesting because it's in the summer and it's

787
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 9: on the beach, so you're kind of making it more accessible.

788
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 9: You don't really need pads. You just need a ball

789
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 9: and your friends to go out and play. But the

790
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 9: hope is that playing beach tackle football, it's just your bodies, right,

791
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 9: these kids are going to learn how to properly tackle,

792
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 9: how to protect themselves, how to protect the guys they're

793
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 9: going up against. And I don't think it's necessarily a solution,

794
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 9: but it's just an interesting way that they're trying to

795
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 9: grow the game.

796
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: And when you grow up, did you grow playing tackle

797
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: football in the backyard, of course? Yeah, without pads. Without pads,

798
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 2: we played tackle football, right, I don't remember anyone really

799
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: getting that hurt.

800
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 5: I don't remember.

801
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean your sprained fingers and things like that, but.

802
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 5: Nothing nobody got you know, like there was Let's put

803
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 5: it this way.

804
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: We don't have pads on a helmet, you don't put

805
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: your head first.

806
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: There were no more injuries doing that than any of

807
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 5: the other countless sports that we played, right.

808
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, girls, Soccer is a big one for concussions too.

809
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 9: I mean, they took headballs out of the youth game,

810
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 9: but still it's still very aggressive.

811
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I mean a lot of sports. I mean

812
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: that's the drawback, like their injuries are going to happen. Yeah,

813
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 5: what are you going to do?

814
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: Let's go to Todd, North Carolina Hate Todd.

815
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, how are you doing?

816
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: Okay?

817
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 12: I have a really strange feeling about this year. Last

818
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 12: year I had hope, but I feel like we had

819
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 12: fewer questions last year, and this year I feel confident.

820
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 12: I don't know why. I know we've got more questions

821
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 12: the defense after what will happened last year, but it

822
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 12: just feels like there's more oversight. It seems like there's

823
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 12: more people involved in actually working together. I don't know.

824
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 12: Last year, I just didn't feel coordinated. It didn't feel

825
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 12: like there was somebody who stepped up and said, hey,

826
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 12: I'm in charge, this is where it's going. And the

827
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 12: difference seems to be very almost palatable, And I was wondering,

828
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 12: how are you guys feeling in the comparison, like where.

829
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: Is your well? I think I agree with you, Todd.

830
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: The first thing I started the show off was this

831
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: after watching Vrabel today, the one word that stood out

832
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: to me it was confidence. Confidence. I'm confident in him.

833
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: He's confident in himself. Uh, and I think his staff

834
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 2: and like you said, it gives you that comfort, Well.

835
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it doesn't feel like there are multiple people trying

836
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 12: to lead the team, and that kind of last year,

837
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 12: it's kind of felt like that things were there wasn't

838
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 12: just one leader. It felt like there was just too many.

839
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: Well, Gerard Mayo had no experience.

840
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 5: But I agree one thousand percent with that. If if

841
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: there's one thing that came from me, it's that Mike

842
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 5: Rabel's in charge. I agree with Todd. I think that's

843
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 5: a very very good point. Last year there was countless

844
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 5: examples of collaborative. Yeah, we're going to collaborate. We don't

845
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 5: want people in silos. It's going to be a collaborative,

846
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 5: no collaborative talk. Rabel's in charge.

847
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 9: And that's one thing I loved about Rabel's press conference

848
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 9: today talking about his coaching staff was the two buzzwords

849
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 9: were trust and loyalty. And I think if you trust

850
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 9: your coaching staff and they're loyal to their head coach,

851
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 9: it's going to get you a lot further.

852
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad?

853
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 13: Hey, how you doing this afternoon?

854
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: Okay?

855
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 9: Good?

856
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 13: I just wanted to just say that as far as

857
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 13: the Titans concerned, I'd have to beg to differ the

858
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 13: coast and love of the best tie end for a

859
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 13: and that would fit our our team. I think he's

860
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 13: an intermediate tight end. He's got good hands, he runs

861
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 13: good routes, and he gets the yards after the catch,

862
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 13: so he's really a good tight end.

863
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: You know.

864
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 13: Hopefully we'll all look into him too. And then there's

865
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 13: a running back from Michigan to uh Khalil Maulings. He's

866
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 13: not really no one's gonna pick him. I don't think

867
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 13: he'll be an undrafted free agent, but he is like

868
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 13: a very physical runner, and you know he's he'd fit

869
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 13: the scheme well, I think. And he actually can line

870
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 13: up as a fullback too. I think, yeah, okay, he

871
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 13: would fit in that regard. Then Donovan Edwards, and then

872
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 13: I think if if if anyone.

873
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 11: I would pick at four would be Mason Graham.

874
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 13: Because you guys were talking earlier, I got a check

875
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Speaker 13: to where you were talking about that each line being solid,

876
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 13: and you know, I can tell you that if you

877
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Speaker 13: put Mason Grant him in the middle of our line,

878
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 13: or that other defensive tackle that Kenneth Grant uh there,

879
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 13: that that side of the balls. You know, it's gonna

880
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 13: be all right.

881
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: Especially if Barmore comes back.

882
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: Brad, you know we are allowed to take guys that

883
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 5: didn't go to Michigan.

884
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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, and there is a lot of other you know,

885
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 13: that Green guy I think would be outstanding, you know,

886
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 13: on the edge, and adul.

887
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: Carter if he's there, two edge guys, Absolutely we'll take him.

888
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Brad, appreciate it.

889
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we heard from Brad last week talking

890
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 5: about and there's you know, there's some talent that you know,

891
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 5: especially on defense for Michigan and those guys. You know,

892
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: Grant would make sense. The tight end is he's a

893
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 5: better receiver. I think he's a better route runner, Lloyd

894
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 5: Brad said than Warren Is. I think Warren is considered

895
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 5: a better all around player, better all around tight end blocking. Yeah,

896
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 5: you know, he's certainly as the versatility. He's done a

897
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 5: million different things for Penn State. But Colston Loveland, I believe,

898
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 5: is considered the better receiver. So you can make an eye.

899
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 5: I wouldn't take either one of them in the first round.

900
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: Speak of receiver, mean not overall. I'm talking about four. Yeah,

901
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't take either one of them at four.

902
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: Speaking of receivers, you know, and this happens every year,

903
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 2: so read into it what you will. But McMillan seems

904
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: to be dropping a little.

905
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 5: Well, because this is what happens when the NFL guys

906
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 5: start watching, Yeah, like when when they get evaluated. This

907
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 5: is this is it happens because the NFL teams have

908
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: a better understanding that they're not always right. Sometimes the

909
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 5: mel Kuipers of the world end up being right and

910
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 5: the NFL teams are wrong. But once the gms and

911
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 5: the personnel evaluators start really stacking the draft boards, they

912
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 5: look different. And that's how you see the massive change.

913
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 5: He's the first guy that i've seen he's starting to drop.

914
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know some of it is too that,

915
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: you know, they want them to drop because they want

916
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: to grab them. But but we'll see, we'll see, you know.

917
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: Like unfortunately, you know, when I've heard, I've seen your

918
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 2: shows talk about this a lot. It's not the best

919
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: year to have a lot of cap space, and it's

920
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: not the best year to be picking high in the draft,

921
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: and unfortunately the Patriots are in both of those guys.

922
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 5: I would argue it's never a really good year to

923
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 5: have a lot of cap space, but the other part

924
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 5: is unfortunate. Yeah, the draft is especially with.

925
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: What they need.

926
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like tackles and wide receivers aren't considered

927
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 5: to be great in this draft now, and Brad just mentioned,

928
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 5: you know, like the Mason Graham's of the world. It

929
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: is supposed to be a strong defensive line YEP class,

930
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 5: So maybe that's the direction you go.

931
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: Junior in Minneapolis writes in another email criticizing Evan. So

932
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to read it, Evan, I think you need

933
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: to be a little more open minded when it comes

934
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Speaker 2: to draft situations, because you're starting to contradict yourself. Last week,

935
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 2: you dismissed the Patriot It's trading down because you didn't

936
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Speaker 2: understand why a team would want to trade up in

937
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Speaker 2: this draft. Later in the same show, you dismissed the

938
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Speaker 2: Patriots trading up because you didn't understand why a team

939
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: would want to trade down in this draft. I can

940
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: give you two easy scenarios. One, Chador Sanders falls to four,

941
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: the Raiders need a quarterback, and the person who both

942
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: reportedly has some personal power and his Chaudor's mentor, Tom Brady,

943
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: convinces them to trade up. Two spots to pick him

944
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: and two Cleveland doesn't like the quarterbacks and might prefer

945
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: Hunter plus picks to just Carter, and is willing to

946
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: trade down two spots if they know the Giants want Sanders.

947
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: I'm not saying these scenarios are likely, but the way

948
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: you dismissed the Patriots trading the fourth pick altogether is

949
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: reaching Paul levels of stubbornness.

950
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 5: Wow, cut Astray.

951
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure what your kids say, so I use that.

952
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna defend Devan a little bit.

953
00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

954
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 5: I think Evans reasoning is sound. I don't think it's

955
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 5: very realistic that a team will want to not only

956
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 5: take Sanders but to give added resources in order to

957
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 5: get them. If the Raiders are able to sit tight

958
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 5: and they decide they like him, sure take him. I don't.

959
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's worth giving up draft picks to

960
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 5: move up a couple of spots and take them. That's

961
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 5: I think Evans point, and the same is true. There's

962
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 5: supposed to be two blue chip guys. If you're in

963
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 5: position to take one of them, why you want to

964
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 5: move down?

965
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: Do you see her Rabel's comments about Tom Brady being

966
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: part owner of the Raiders.

967
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not hards all that hard.

968
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: But he said it's better for the league to have

969
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: him involved. It's good for the league. I just he

970
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: should be involved with the Patriots. That's my only problem. Well,

971
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: you know, you did your best. I just and I

972
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: also like what's going on in Vegas? Where I get

973
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: he's Tom Brady, But he comes in with his investment

974
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: group and they by I don't know, how what does

975
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: he have twenty percent of the team?

976
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 5: Now, Oh, I didn't know what was that big?

977
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it is maybe maybe that's high, maybe ten percent,

978
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: whatever it is, it's not a lot, you know, it's

979
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: it's not even close to the majority of the team.

980
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: He comes in no football management experience ever, let alone

981
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: coaching personnel, and now he's running the place.

982
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's really what people are Maybe it's.

983
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: So weird, you know, like they just handed the keys,

984
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: like unless that's wrong, Unless he's really not running it.

985
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 9: It would be hard for me to believe that he

986
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 9: would want that responsibility.

987
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: I mean, well, how are you going to like travel

988
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: around the country doing games every week if you're running

989
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:36,959
Speaker 2: the place.

990
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 9: There's that, there's his kids, there's I mean, I don't

991
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 9: know if he wants to be living in Vegas.

992
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: Well, I would say that, just like if your work

993
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: life balance is important to you, I would say I

994
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 2: would say just being in Vegas and running a team

995
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: is better than doing Fox. So at least you're in

996
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: one place, you know. I don't know.

997
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 5: I think him running the place is probably strong you

998
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 5: know who's acurate. But I would say he probably is

999
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 5: heavily involved in the quarterbacks.

1000
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: Well, supposedly he's like recruiting free agents or going to

1001
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 2: be recruiting free.

1002
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 9: Agents, and it made it seem like he was recruiting

1003
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,239
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1004
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,680
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1005
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 9: I feel like it's just a little overblown. I think

1006
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,719
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1007
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Speaker 9: I don't think he's laying the hammer down and making

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Speaker 4: Hi, Hi Karen, good morning. Is that Joe's okay? Karen?

1040
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Speaker 4: What do you got? No statements? What do you got?

1041
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: Thank God? Uh? Huh?

1042
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 9: Him and interviewing and basically how.

1043
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Speaker 4: Did that all shot out? Yeah?

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Speaker 16: Well, again, just looking at the staff, extremely proud of

1045
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 16: the staff that we were able to put together. It's

1046
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 16: difficult in the National Football League to be able to

1047
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 16: get you know, every coach that you may covet or

1048
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 16: may want to get outside the coordinators that you know

1049
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 16: aren't a coordinator a somewhere else, just because of the roles,

1050
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 16: Like teams are under contract. Some teams want to keep

1051
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 16: the coaches that they have they feel like they're good coaches.

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00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 16: But we were able to put together a great staff,

1053
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Speaker 16: one that we're really proud of. And you asked about Josh,

1054
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Speaker 16: and I would say that, you know, having had communications

1055
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 16: with Josh and in my role in Cleveland, Uh, he

1056
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 16: wasn't under contract with the team, So we had numerous conversations,

1057
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 16: interviewed a handful of great candidates and you know, in

1058
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 16: the NFL, like Josh was the best fit to lead

1059
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 16: our offense, just like Terrell was the best fit to

1060
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 16: lead our defense.

1061
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 4: And Jeremy and Tom returning to to lead the special

1062
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: teams unit.

1063
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Speaker 2: Are the defense.

1064
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the plan, you know what I mean. Like

1065
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 4: he's gonna be the defensive coordinator, He's gonna call defenses.

1066
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Speaker 16: And you know, he's an aggressive minded coach that's coached

1067
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 16: really aggressive defensive lineman. That's what he Uh, that's his background.

1068
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Speaker 16: And so I've enjoyed the process of what he's learned

1069
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 16: when he's gone to Detroit, what he learned with us

1070
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Speaker 16: in Tennessee. UH, to be able to tie the back

1071
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 16: end together with with the stuff that we want to

1072
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 16: do with the front, and those conversations that have been

1073
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 16: going on, UH in the last couple of weeks since

1074
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 16: everybody's been together.

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Speaker 13: For a point in Cleveland where there was a conversation

1076
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 13: about whether a permanent job was in the future for.

1077
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: You, and did you tell them, no, my plan is

1078
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: to leave.

1079
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 16: No, I would didn't want to permanently consult in Cleveland

1080
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 16: for the rest of my career.

1081
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 4: Different position. No, No, enjoyed my time.

1082
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Speaker 16: I appreciate UH, Jimmy and d Tire has them family,

1083
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 16: Andrew and and Kevin and the relationships that I got

1084
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 16: to to make there. It's been fun to see those

1085
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 16: uh individuals. I walked into the suite last night in

1086
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Speaker 16: between interviews and they said.

1087
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Speaker 4: I'll get out of here. I said, I don't work

1088
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: for you guys anymore. You can't tell me what to do.

1089
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 16: So it was fun just to see them and no,

1090
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 16: but there was no conversation about any long term plans

1091
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 16: there I was. I mean, I would have, you know,

1092
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 16: listened because I didn't have a job at the time,

1093
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 16: maybe learn from that experience in Cleveland that helped contribute

1094
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 16: to you as a coach.

1095
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 4: Just how critical.

1096
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 16: You know, just just the little things right, just the

1097
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 16: staff and being mindful of when new coaches come on

1098
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 16: to the staff. And I know that Kevin was conscious

1099
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 16: of that. I think that's why he I love the

1100
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 16: idea of having me work with the offense. It's something

1101
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 16: that I've thought was very beneficial to those coaches, to

1102
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 16: me to have conversations the way that some offensive coaches

1103
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 16: see things and the way that defensive coaches may see

1104
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 16: them a little differently, and so have been able to

1105
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 16: do that in New England and moved Ben over to

1106
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 16: defense to help to Rell and that staff just look

1107
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 16: at it from an offensive perspective and things that you know,

1108
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 16: we could make sure that we're taken care of, and

1109
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 16: that letting slip.

1110
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 4: Mike, how would you.

1111
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: Describe how the team will approach free agency?

1112
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 16: Hopefully aggressive? I mean we want to be aggressive. We

1113
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 16: want to target players that we feel like are going

1114
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 16: to help us. They're going to be the outstanding players.

1115
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 16: You're gonna be outstanding additions to the locker room, uh

1116
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 16: and the community and if that all fits and and

1117
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 16: and the compensation fits. But I'm confident that we'll be aggressive.

1118
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 16: We've started some of those discussions, uh internally, and I

1119
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 16: think having different plans and having an Option A and

1120
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 16: Option B, I mean, things are gonna change. Everybody's looking

1121
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 16: at the same players, so we have to be ready

1122
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 16: to pivot and adjust and have a vision for each player.

1123
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 16: I would say at each level, you know, I mean

1124
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 16: there's gonna be this this high level that that things

1125
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 16: are gonna get done very quickly.

1126
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: UH.

1127
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 16: That will transition then to you know, maybe just some

1128
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 16: some mid range dollars. And then obviously you look at opportunities.

1129
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 16: So free agency gets broken down into you know, compensation,

1130
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 16: and then it gets broken down into opportunity. And I

1131
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 16: feel like we're in a position to offer both as

1132
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 16: far as compensation and opportunity for some of these players.

1133
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 7: What's What's what's one of the bigger things the team

1134
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 7: has to do to support Drake Man.

1135
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 16: Well, there's a lot, you know. I mean again, I

1136
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 16: think you always talk about being able to protect them.

1137
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: You have to be able to.

1138
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 16: You know, have some guys that that can that can

1139
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 16: help them on the edges and be able to to

1140
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 16: make contested touches and that don't you don't have to

1141
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 16: be perfect, right, You don't have to have you know,

1142
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 16: perfect ball placement, right. And then those are all things

1143
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 16: that we talk about trying to support Drake believe in

1144
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 16: that he is the you know, the future of our

1145
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 16: franchise at quarterback and being able to meet with him

1146
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 16: and talk with him and just get to know him

1147
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 16: as a person. You know, but you have to look

1148
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 16: at the lines of scrimmage, and you look at the

1149
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 16: look no further than the Super Bowl game, where you

1150
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 16: know that that game was clearly run uh at the

1151
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 16: line of scrimmage.

1152
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 10: Which it rests to as much as coming out in

1153
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 10: the drafts.

1154
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 4: I think it's a good draft.

1155
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 16: I mean, I think it's there's a lot of names,

1156
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 16: there's a lot of personalities. Some guys we met last

1157
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 16: night that were serious. Some guys had a different personality

1158
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 16: was maybe a little bit more you know, engaging, and

1159
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 16: and I think that's on. I think all we're trying

1160
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 16: to do through this process is get the players to

1161
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 16: be as authentic as possible, to figure out.

1162
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: Where the fit is.

1163
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 16: And and how they can add to our to our

1164
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 16: roster and our team and the vision that we have

1165
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 16: for him and and I would say that last night

1166
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 16: was a great start, uh going through that process with

1167
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 16: the you know, with the players that came in there,

1168
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 16: and it just happened to be the D line and

1169
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 16: a lot of the edge line edge players and the

1170
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 16: line inside linebackers.

1171
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 4: Coach to consult.

1172
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: Are those friends you've seen in the NFL that kind

1173
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 5: of change the way you think about merching, what you

1174
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 5: think about personal different.

1175
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 4: Positions, Well, I I don't.

1176
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 16: I'm always gonna believe that coaching is about connections and

1177
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 16: making relationships with players and holding them accountable and being

1178
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 16: honest and giving them things that are gonna help them

1179
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 16: and being creative. I'll never stray from that, and I'm

1180
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 16: gonna continue to always try to find ways to teach them,

1181
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 16: whatever their capacity is, whatever we have to do to

1182
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 16: get them the knowledge that they need.

1183
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 4: We're gonna try to developed players.

1184
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 16: We've done that in our past, in our history, focusing

1185
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 16: on what they can do as opposed to what they can't.

1186
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 16: Having an energy every day to come in the building.

1187
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 16: You know, it's a long season, and then I have

1188
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 16: to be able to provide that and let that trickle

1189
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 16: down through our coaches and our players. Trends I think,

1190
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 16: you know, look how critical the nickel position has become

1191
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 16: and how dynamic that player can be. You know, you

1192
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 16: need guys that can cover, obviously, but the edges of

1193
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 16: the defense and be able to rush and affect a quarterback.

1194
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if any of that will change.

1195
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 16: There'll be scheming things that change, and it's some teams

1196
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 16: believe in our po some believe in, you know, trying

1197
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 16: to block the extra defender. Some teams believe in reading

1198
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 16: the end and letting the quarterback. You know, those are

1199
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 16: things that we're always going to adapt and adjust to

1200
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 16: and add when we feel like is is important. But

1201
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 16: the fundamentals and the technique, our effort in which we

1202
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 16: play with I think those will withstand the test of time,

1203
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 16: regardless of what scheme you want to runage.

1204
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: You've really gotten to know your roster since you've been hired.

1205
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 7: Do you view this as a long term rebuild or

1206
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 7: you know you just mentioned you're looking to be aggressive

1207
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 7: and free agency.

1208
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 10: Are you looking for a rapid rate of improvement here?

1209
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 4: Well, we have to improve. I mean, I think that's

1210
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 4: the that's the goal. I don't you know.

1211
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 16: Our expectations aren't going to change. It's going to be

1212
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 16: to win the division. It's going to be the host

1213
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 16: home playoff games, and it's going to be to compete

1214
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 16: for championships. So we're never going to put a time,

1215
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 16: timetable or any sort of prediction on when that may happen,

1216
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 16: but it has to happen. And it's going to start

1217
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 16: April seventh when our guys come in and we're going

1218
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 16: to build a program.

1219
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 4: We're going to have a foundation.

1220
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 16: We're going to give them something to believe in and

1221
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 16: to be proud of, and hopefully they're able to hold

1222
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 16: each other accountable and to that standard and if not,

1223
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 16: then my job is to protect the football team.

1224
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 3: Got a sense at all, Sorr, just to fall up

1225
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 3: really quickly.

1226
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 8: Have you gotten a sense at all locally that that

1227
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 8: fans aren't don't necessarily have the appetite for a longer

1228
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 8: process when it comes to getting back to it, Well, I.

1229
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 16: Don't think anybody has a longer appetite. I mean, we

1230
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 16: all want to win, Like that's why we're here, That's

1231
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 16: why I got hired, And it's to win. It's put

1232
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 16: a product on the field that they can be excited about,

1233
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 16: that they can care about and they can support, Like

1234
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 16: that's the whole goal. And I don't they shouldn't have

1235
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 16: to wait very long. And you know, but we also

1236
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,959
Speaker 16: have to understand that, you know, we're not gonna fix

1237
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 16: every issue on the first day of free agency, or

1238
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 16: we're not going to fill every hole on the first

1239
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 16: or second day of the draft.

1240
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you had a question right here to that point.

1241
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: Just yet, like some of these other people, it'll.

1242
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 5: Be so nice.

1243
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 9: Given the amount of salary cap space you guys do have,

1244
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 9: would you feel comfortable paying a free agent, perhaps like

1245
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 9: above their market value in order to ensure that you

1246
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 9: fill a need.

1247
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 16: Well, I mean, I'm sure like I like to shop

1248
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 16: like everybody else. And so when you go and there's

1249
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 16: only one of you know, a certain car, maybe you

1250
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 16: have to pay a little bit more for that one

1251
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 16: car because there's only one of them. When you start

1252
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 16: to get into a range where you feel like there's

1253
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 16: a area where players are comparable and you like three

1254
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 16: or four players in a certain area for a certain role,

1255
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 16: you may not have to overspend. But it's free agency.

1256
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 16: I think that everybody overspends sometimes in free agency.

1257
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 7: How does how much input does Josh McDaniels get on

1258
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 7: which players are signed or drafted you the offense.

1259
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 16: I would say it would be the same as our

1260
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 16: entire coaching staff. I want them to be included in

1261
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 16: those conversations. The one thing I've learned as a head

1262
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 16: coach is that there's always going to be players that

1263
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 16: coaches are gonna covet, and there's gonna be players that

1264
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 16: scouts are gonna cove it for certain reasons and they

1265
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 16: call them traits and all this other stuff, and coaches

1266
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 16: want players that they can trust. And when we come

1267
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 16: across those players, I always chuckle because as being a

1268
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 16: position coach. I'm like, oh, yeah, this guy's gonna love

1269
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 16: this guy. And then the scouts are gonna love this guy,

1270
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 16: and they're gonna sit there and argue. So I see

1271
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 16: that come up, and I can appreciate that. But our

1272
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 16: coaches are gonna have input. They're gonna evaluate them. They've

1273
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 16: evaluated the free agents, they've turned the the reports in

1274
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 16: for us to look at and review, and then then

1275
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 16: we'll give them a draft list and then they'll you know,

1276
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 16: provide information on those players as well.

1277
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 5: And now great moments in.

1278
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: History. Pete Abbattani was his night.

1279
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 5: I thought, I don't know why I remember Joe Brown.

1280
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: So the night before I was on the phone with him,

1281
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: because yes, there was like who are we? Are we

1282
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: media or the team, blah blah blah. So there was

1283
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: confusion as to who we were to go through to

1284
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: get the credentials. So that's why that night before I

1285
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: was on the phone with them to make sure that

1286
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: we were good. And I was told by the headed

1287
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: guy that we were good. We show up the next

1288
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: day no credentials and their excuse was, well, we're all tired, that's.

1289
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 4: What she said.

1290
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: Remember that too.

1291
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 5: And I said to me Brian me, Brian and Andy

1292
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 5: went gotta go.

1293
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 2: So but did we get our credentials? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

1294
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: come with the super Bowl?

1295
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 13: All right?

1296
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 5: But I mean like the super Bowl happens after the

1297
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 5: championships you went to.

1298
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: Yes, my late favorite thing is when they which one

1299
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 3: was that?

1300
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: Again?

1301
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 3: Like okay, all right, let me check my rings.

1302
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 5: That's how I can start looping you into my text

1303
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 5: chance Now.

1304
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: I think it was.

1305
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: Right right Jacksonville. Oh, let me tell you how bad

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Speaker 3: the hotel wasn't the super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Which one was that?

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Speaker 5: I found a picture of an old shot of you know,

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Speaker 5: the crafts used to have us, you know, when they

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Speaker 5: would bring the trophies out and we take pictures and yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: so I have a picture with me, Robert, Jonathan and

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Speaker 5: Danny with the the Lombardi. So I took a picture

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Speaker 5: of the picture and send it to Mic and go, Mike,

1314
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 5: these are Lombardi trophies. The NFL gives them out to

1315
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 5: a team that wins the Super Bowl. I haven't we

1316
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 5: used to get these all the time before you came.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's another great moment from Are you looking to

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Speaker 2: fill football sized hole in your heart? Why not spend

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Speaker 2: love seats and recliners. With all the bells and whistles,

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Speaker 2: We're talking cup holders, charging ports, even Bluetooth speakers. With

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Speaker 2: Bob's flexible financing offers to fit any budget, You'll be

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Speaker 2: ready for that first coin toss in no time. So

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Speaker 2: stop in and stock up for next season with Bob's

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Speaker 2: Discount Furniture, the official furniture store of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Now on the phone, it's the comedy team of Mike

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01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: Dessau and Evan Lazarre live from the Combine. What's up guys,

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01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: Hey guys, not just on the phone, we can actually

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01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: see them.

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01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 3: Technology we're here. Sorry about that. You gotta look at

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01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 3: our faces.

1333
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 2: So tell us everything, tell us everything that's going on

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01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: so far.

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01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 5: IM gonna need you to put the phone down and listen.

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01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, y yeah. Adam Cheff tweetings on the show.

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01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: He's putting out an advertisment, right Chef. So well, the

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01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 3: football part.

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01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 6: We were heard from Mike Rabel at the at the

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01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 6: podium this morning, which I'm sure you guys probably heard. Uh,

1341
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 6: then he went to do serious then he talked with

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Speaker 6: us for a little bit, so we'll be posting that shortly.

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01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 6: Did a nice interview, was very very easy interview, Mike Rabel.

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01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 6: I'm finding here as we as we talked to him

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01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 6: more and more so had a nice ten minute conversation

1346
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 6: or so with him, and then all the Boston media

1347
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 6: went out to the tables out on the side and

1348
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 6: had another little scrum. So, you know, three big scrums.

1349
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 6: I guess two really, but you know, Brabel's gotten grilled

1350
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Speaker 6: through the car wash. And yeah, I thought some interesting stuff.

1351
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 6: I'm sure you guys have touched on some of it,

1352
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 6: but yeah, it seems like he's he's excited to be

1353
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 6: here for the Patriots and and enjoys talking to the guys.

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01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 5: I think that's my favorite takeaway takeaway.

1355
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to say where to start.

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Speaker 6: I would say for me, I thought it was interesting

1358
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 6: talking about Terrell william calling the defense. That's something we've

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 6: been talking about and Evan and I went into that

1360
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 6: a little bit with our interview with Rabel. You guys know,

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Speaker 6: I love the defense and you know, trying to pick

1362
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 6: his brain a little bit about the scheme and what

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Speaker 6: direction they might be going. He mentioned that they had

1364
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 6: talked to a lot of the defensive linemen and edges

1365
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 6: and linebackers last night, so they're starting that interview process.

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Speaker 6: So that was one of the one of the nuggets

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Speaker 6: I thought that was interesting. One other nugget I threw

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Speaker 6: out there, I thought, I think from the scrum was,

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Speaker 6: you know, him talking about he'd been in conversations with

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 6: Josh throughout his time last year while he was in

1371
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Speaker 6: Cleveland and bouncing stuff off Josh and something we hadn't

1372
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Speaker 6: heard before.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, a lot of good stuff. I think Evan's

1374
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: gonna write something out. We're trying to plow through it all,

1375
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Speaker 3: but yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say that for me, that just talking

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Speaker 7: to him about his pitch to free agents, you know,

1378
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 7: what would be your pitch to free agents, because let's

1379
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 7: face it, the Patriots have to make themselves a destination

1380
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 7: that this offseason in more ways and just money. And

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Speaker 7: I thought it was interesting he said, you know that

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Speaker 7: he would use ten stimonials of similar types of players

1383
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 7: and that sort of thing, you know, how we use

1384
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 7: this guy and how he would see how we could

1385
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 7: use you and get the most out of you. So

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Speaker 7: he gave a little pitch there of how he would

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Speaker 7: go about recruiting free agents, which was cool.

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Speaker 5: Great.

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Speaker 2: So, Evan, before I asked you my first question, I

1390
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: just want to let you know that a fan corrected you.

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Speaker 2: The Barn in Indiana is where Butler plays basketball. It's

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Speaker 2: known as the Barn.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Hinklefield is the Barn?

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Speaker 2: Hinklefield that right? Yeah, it's also known as the Cathedral

1395
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: of Basketball or Indiana.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's where Hoosias was filmed. Right, So be better?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be better?

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01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 3: Not so arrogant, Brad Stevens. If Butler correct Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So were either one of you gentlemen? You know you

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Speaker 5: talked about Terrell Williams deuce and the plan. I think

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01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 5: he said the plan is for him to call the defense.

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Speaker 5: Were you guys surprised that it just was like a

1403
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 5: plan and not necessarily he is going to call it,

1404
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 5: because you know, plans can change.

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01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 6: I didn't think of it that way, Paul, But that's

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Speaker 6: why we rely on you to get into the minutia

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01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 6: of the words.

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Speaker 3: You know, it sounds like that's the plan. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't really think any more of it.

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Speaker 4: Than that.

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Speaker 6: But I think I mean, we talked a little bit

1413
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 6: about on the podcast wrap up that we just did

1414
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Speaker 6: that we've seen new coordinators now the last couple of years,

1415
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 6: so I think there's some expectation that there might be

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Speaker 6: a little bit of growing pains there. And you know, certainly,

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01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 6: I just think they're not interested in trying to put

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Speaker 6: all their players into their scheme. They want to find

1419
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Speaker 6: what these players are and then and then tailor things

1420
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Speaker 6: to them that way. But we'll see how it all

1421
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Speaker 6: comes together. I mean, I think that's that's a great question, Paul,

1422
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 6: how is it going to come together? And you know,

1423
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 6: what is toroll? What's his style going to be? Like

1424
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 6: we saw a new defensivecordiing with DeMarcus Covington last year.

1425
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 6: Everybody brings their own unique twist to it. So I

1426
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Speaker 6: just don't think we know a lot about him. He's

1427
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Speaker 6: still kind of an unknown quantity. But it does sound

1428
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 6: like he wants to be aggressive. And I think when

1429
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Speaker 6: we talked of Rabel, we were kind of interpreting it

1430
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 6: like it seems like he wants to get a one

1431
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 6: gap style and get upfield and go get the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: So I think we're both a little bit encouraged by that,

1433
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 6: but too again, it's it sounds like they're they're doing

1434
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 6: the deep dive into these into these players now and

1435
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 6: trying to find like the personality fits maybe first before

1436
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 6: they really drill into the film.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Evan, before I get into Barth, what have you

1438
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 2: heard any scuttle buds any any have you talked to

1439
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: anyone outside of our own crew about guys rising falling?

1440
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Speaker 2: We heard Ted McMillan might be a guy who's falling

1441
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: a little bit. Have you had a chance so far?

1442
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: I know you just got there, but have you had

1443
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: a chance to talk to anybody about that type of stuff?

1444
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely sounds like the wide receivers at least the scuttlebed,

1445
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 7: as you said around here, is that the league is

1446
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 7: just not overly high on this wide receiver class. I

1447
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 7: would say the same goes for guys like Luther Burden

1448
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 7: for example, too. It might be falling a little bit

1449
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 7: because of his performance last season and some other things.

1450
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 7: But the main thing is is that we might be

1451
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 7: talking about is Ted mcmilligan to crack the top twenty,

1452
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 7: not the top ten?

1453
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 4: Right like that?

1454
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 7: That's the conversations, right now, and a lot of people

1455
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 7: I think are interested in seeing how he runs, if

1456
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 7: he does run here, and how he works out here

1457
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 7: to see that athleticism and test him in that way

1458
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,440
Speaker 7: from an athletic profile standpoint.

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01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 5: So I think Daniel Jeremiah and mel.

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 7: Kiper Bolt had Luther Burden outside of the first round

1461
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 7: on their mock drafts. You know, so there might be

1462
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Speaker 7: more of the A twenty twenty three field to this

1463
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 7: receiver class where it's kind of starts at twenty and

1464
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 7: then like a bunch of names come off from twenty

1465
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 7: to forty, let's say, instead of starting earlier.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, guys, if I could hop in real quick,

1467
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 6: there was one prospect up at the podium this morning

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Speaker 6: that we heard from. I think his name is Matthew Smith.

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 6: I sent Paul a picture of him. I guess they

1470
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 6: had gave him his own day to get.

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Speaker 3: Up on the treum.

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Speaker 6: Intriguing prospect, intriguing, intriguing, measurables, really known for his ability

1473
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 6: to put down bud lights.

1474
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: We look forward to seeing how he tests out this

1475
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 3: week here in Indianapolis.

1476
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 9: Was he wearing socks?

1477
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I know what he's known for.

1478
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: I heard he has off field issues, but that's a

1479
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: story for another day.

1480
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 5: He's off my board, I'll tell you that.

1481
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, his his side to side swaying.

1482
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 6: They tied him this morning and there's the swaying side

1483
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 6: to side was really really top notch elite, elite level,

1484
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 6: if you will, very twitchy.

1485
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to listen to any other

1486
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 2: coaches at the podiums and anybody say anything of note?

1487
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 6: I would just say we didn't, not really, just because

1488
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 6: we went right from Brable, but we did get to

1489
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 6: hear Joe Shane right before, and it was just it

1490
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 6: was kind of funny because right off the top, the

1491
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 6: first question was like, so say Quan, huh, you kind

1492
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 6: of felt it was coming, and you know, we're in

1493
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 6: a different part of our rebuild and those kind of things.

1494
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 6: But those are, you know, some of the tough questions

1495
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 6: that get thrown out.

1496
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: But we really haven't.

1497
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 6: We've been we've been kind of here recording and doing stuff.

1498
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 6: So far we haven't got a lot of those other guys.

1499
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did.

1500
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 7: We did hear from Shaney was at the pot right

1501
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 7: before Rabel was, and I thought that, you know, it's

1502
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 7: obviously interesting with them having to pick before the Patriots

1503
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 7: in the first round, and he was noncommittal. It sounded

1504
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 7: like to me at least about what they're going to

1505
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 7: do at quarterback. They know they need a quarterback, he said,

1506
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 7: we have one quarterback on the roster, so we definitely

1507
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 7: need a quarterback. But I don't think they have a

1508
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 7: great answer right now as to how they're going to

1509
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 7: go about getting that quarterback. So he did mention that

1510
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 7: they would like to have a veteran and a young

1511
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 7: quarterback of both on the roster, kind of like what

1512
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 7: the Patriots did last year with Drake May and Jacoby Brissett,

1513
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 7: But he wouldn't commit to is it going to be

1514
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 7: an expensive veteran, Is it going to be a third

1515
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 7: overall pick rookie.

1516
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 3: So we'll see.

1517
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 5: He did have a lot of nice things to say

1518
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 5: about Ryan Cowden that I heard in his and his

1519
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 5: briefing in you guys might have been tied up with

1520
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 5: Mike there's another, you know, sort of Patriot adjacent kind

1521
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 5: of a comment. Eric Tacosta spoke, I don't know if

1522
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 5: you guys had heard any of him, you know, the

1523
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 5: GM for the Ravens sort of indicated that he plans

1524
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 5: to meet with Ronnie Stay this week his representatives, and

1525
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 5: he kind of expressed some confidence that they would be

1526
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 5: able to get a deal done. He didn't guarantee anything,

1527
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 5: but I wonder if that would sort of cross a

1528
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 5: big piece off the free agent list for the Patriots.

1529
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1530
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting because you know, just listening to what

1531
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 7: Rabel said, you know, he said that they would if

1532
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 7: there was only one car. I think it was the

1533
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 7: analogy that he used that they would maybe overpay for

1534
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 7: that one car, but if they felt like it was

1535
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 7: a bunch of cars on the lot that were the same,

1536
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 7: then maybe they would be a little bit more frugal.

1537
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 7: And like Ronnie Stanley to me in the tackle market

1538
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 7: is the Ferrari right, Like, He's like the one car

1539
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 7: and then everybody else, the Cam Robinson's, the Aleric Jackson's, Like,

1540
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 7: those guys are all kind of in a in a

1541
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 7: similar boat. So if Ronnie Stanley's off the board at tackle,

1542
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,480
Speaker 7: then I do wonder how much they would really overextend

1543
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 7: for a Cam Robinson and Aleric Jackson, you know, one

1544
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 7: of those types of players.

1545
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 4: It might not be something that they would do.

1546
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, so what else he got? Anything else?

1547
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: Before we let you go. How's Barth doing. Did you

1548
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: guys go to Saint Almos last night?

1549
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 7: We we did go to Saint Elmos last night. I

1550
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 7: met up with Barth that afterwards. He was at the

1551
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 7: Pacers Nuggets game with a group last night. But I

1552
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 7: just went over to his table, which is about I

1553
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 7: don't know what I'm bad with this fifty feet You're

1554
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 7: fifty feet from us, and and he told me that

1555
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 7: he's a little bit overwhelmed at his first combine.

1556
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 3: So I just told I just.

1557
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 7: Told him, listen, you can't get everything. Yeah, you just

1558
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 7: got to stick to the hits, right. You know what's important.

1559
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 7: It's as Jerry Madeline likes to say, it's needs and

1560
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 7: wants right, like you need to get Rabel, but you

1561
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 7: might want to talk to Duke Tobin later, but the

1562
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 7: Rabel thing is more important.

1563
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 5: So when the players come out, there's eight podiums going

1564
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 5: at once, he's overwhelmed.

1565
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 4: Now, I know.

1566
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 2: I know he's got to get his pass like he

1567
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: does a Disney World. We did.

1568
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 7: We did have a great meal at Saint Elmos though

1569
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 7: last night. We hit it early in the week, which

1570
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 7: is I think that's a pro move.

1571
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 3: Dude.

1572
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 7: So I think kidding it early in the week before

1573
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 7: things really get going is the way.

1574
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, later.

1575
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 6: And people watch, Yeah, yeah, plenty of that. And No,

1576
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 6: it's this place feels like it's frozen in time. Like

1577
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 6: each year you come back here, it's the same people,

1578
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 6: the same setup, the same weather. I mean, it's just

1579
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 6: nothing changes here, and I think that's what everybody loves

1580
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 6: about it.

1581
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 2: All right, So what are we looking forward to later

1582
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 2: today from you and tomorrow?

1583
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we'll have our podcast coming out with that

1584
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 6: interview from Vrabel cut in. We're also looking forward to

1585
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 6: talking to Mike Greece this afternoon. We're gonna talk to

1586
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 6: Jordan Reid from ESPN, so those will be cut into

1587
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 6: tomorrow's podcasts. Just trying to pile up some interviews that

1588
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 6: we're doing here. And we'll get a chance to talk

1589
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 6: to Elliot Wolf tomorrow, so he's gonna speak at the

1590
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 6: podium and then they'll also talk to us. I don't

1591
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 6: think he's doing the big scrum with the media like

1592
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 6: Brabel did, so kind of in a little bit of

1593
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 6: an exclusive to us. So we're looking forward to that

1594
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 6: talking some draft with him, getting his opinion on this

1595
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 6: class and hopefully nerding out on some draft stuff with him.

1596
01:15:58,840 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 3: That's what we're kind of oping.

1597
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: So when Elliott talks tomorrow, we'll have that live on

1598
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: Patriots dot Com and as we did today with Rabel,

1599
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 2: So looking forward to that.

1600
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, just kicking off, We're ready to go.

1601
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 2: All right, guys, Well, enjoy work hard, have fun. And

1602
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: when are we going to talk to you next?

1603
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 6: You'll hear them on Thursday about the same time. We'll

1604
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 6: probably ye, yeah, we'll have more more to share than

1605
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 6: you know, after a couple of days of prospects and stuff,

1606
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 6: and so yeah, we'll have a little bit a little

1607
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 6: more information hopefully to share on Thursday with you guys.

1608
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 2: All right, guys, thanks for calling in. Talk to you later.

1609
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 3: Thanks guys.

1610
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 5: All right, bye boys.

1611
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: Evan induced from the combine. First time I think we've

1612
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: done that where we've had video and it worked. Yeah,

1613
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: it looked great, sounded good. So good job whoever made

1614
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 2: that happen. So what's the matter with you two.

1615
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 9: I'm just thinking in my head about how funny it

1616
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 9: would be if we had like a barth cam of

1617
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 9: just like I feel like this is like changing this experience.

1618
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: Well nine eight point five should definitely have it.

1619
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 5: He was on my show, No I know, did you

1620
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 5: see him?

1621
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think Alex is talking about following.

1622
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 9: Walking into the Sneyland for the first time, So I list.

1623
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 5: Think it's funny that he's overwhelmed. Now.

1624
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: Now it's like day one.

1625
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 5: The NFL coaches and gms they talk and there can

1626
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 5: be more than one going on at once, but in

1627
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 5: general terms, they space those out pretty well and you

1628
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 5: can get everything you need to do once the players

1629
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 5: start to come out position groups. I don't know what

1630
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 5: the Senate might have a breakdown in general that there's

1631
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 5: eight podiums. I don't know if they do it the

1632
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 5: same way. I'm you know, I haven't been there the

1633
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 5: last couple of years. But they can be like they again.

1634
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 5: They do their best to make sure like Shador, Sanders

1635
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 5: and cam Ward aren't going to be talking at the

1636
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 5: same time, right, But they don't always succeed in that.

1637
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 5: Sometimes they come out. They don't want to keep these

1638
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 5: guys waiting. They just want to get get them in

1639
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 5: and get them out and get them on with their day.

1640
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 5: Because they do have their meetings set up with all

1641
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 5: the teams, they have a schedule to keep So it

1642
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 5: can be overwhelming when you're trying to get you know,

1643
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 5: Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks, you know, the you know, there

1644
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 5: maybe two other the guy from Ohio State, the guy

1645
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 5: from Oregon. They could all be out there roughly at

1646
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 5: the same time. They're all tackles, the all guys that

1647
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 5: the Patriots reporters are going to want to hear from.

1648
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 5: That's when you get overwhelmed.

1649
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 4: Yep.

1650
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 5: So, and then you know, like you call in and

1651
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 5: friend's like, you know what did CAMPB would have to say, well,

1652
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't hear him, you know, like I

1653
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 5: sent you all going out there and you didn't even

1654
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 5: talk to the guy that what are you doing?

1655
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: But for a guy like Bart, this could be information overload. Yeah,

1656
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: so we might have to He's not our responsibility. I

1657
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: guess he's not eight point five. So all right, back

1658
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: to the emails at podcasts at Patriots dot com. I

1659
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: guess are on air light is like more it reads,

1660
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: it's more of a suggestion out there, we got somebody

1661
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: to something.

1662
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 9: It's like a street sweeper.

1663
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 5: The tunnel out here, moving the dust around.

1664
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 9: It sounds like they're right up against it was.

1665
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 10: Like they were like seem like they were right powerwashing

1666
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 10: on the walls as he drives the zamboni.

1667
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 5: By them the zamboni, I wish you were being kidding.

1668
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: Let's see Floyd and Redford Michigan. When Mike Reese speaks,

1669
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 2: I need to pay attention, or he says, I tend

1670
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: to pay attention. He recently posted that if the Patriots

1671
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: deemed that Will Campbell isn't worthy of the fourth pick,

1672
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: could Mason Graham be? This coming from Mike Reese made

1673
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 2: me believe that Mason Graham could be a real consideration

1674
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: and not just some mock draft selection. I am a

1675
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: Mason Graham guy, but I'm reading too much into this.

1676
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 5: No, I think Mason Graham is absolutely in play. He's

1677
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 5: by all accounts a top ten pick right.

1678
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: Well, And I think that what Floyd is saying is

1679
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: something that you've said in the past, Like Mike Reese

1680
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 2: doesn't just throw things out there a lot of times.

1681
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 5: But I'm not going to get into that. Yeah, Like,

1682
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 5: I understand what Floyd's saying, and mister Floyd is perceptive,

1683
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 5: but I'm not suggesting that the Patriots like me because

1684
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 5: Mike we said that. I'm saying Mason Graham is by

1685
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 5: all accounts a candidate to get taken somewhere between. I

1686
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 5: would say three and ten, because the only two guys

1687
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 5: that I would have seen that are definitively listed ahead

1688
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 5: of him are Abdul carter In Travis Hunter. Am I

1689
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,799
Speaker 5: wrong on that right now? The rest could be your preference.

1690
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 5: Will Campbell, Alex likes Mason Graham, maybe Fred Maybe you

1691
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 5: like Tyler Warren, you know, maybe someone on the Jalen Walker.

1692
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of different options depending on

1693
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 5: your preference. But Mason Graham I think wouldn't be a

1694
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 5: surprise pick No.

1695
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 4: Four.

1696
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 5: No, I don't think that would be a surprise to me,

1697
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 5: to many people. Nope, So I think mister Floyd is

1698
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 5: onto something.

1699
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 2: Ben in Hershey, Pennsylvania. ESPN currently has Sanderson Ward as

1700
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: their seventeen and eighteenth ranked prospects.

1701
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 5: I've seen them fifteen twenty, I've seen them around that.

1702
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 5: That's a little high, to be honest with you, for me,

1703
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 5: like I would think if you're just ranking the prospects,

1704
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 5: it's not a mock draft, just ranking the prospects, I'm

1705
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 5: not sure they would be in my top twenty.

1706
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen. The top ranked quarterbacks prospects were Deshaun

1707
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 2: Watson twenty eighth, Mitch Trubisky forty second, and Patrick Mahomes

1708
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: fifty second.

1709
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah. See that would be more what I would think

1710
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 5: with these guys.

1711
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: The Texas Chiefs and Bears all traded up to draft

1712
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: them at least sixteen picks ahead of how they were ranked.

1713
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers received the picks used to draft

1714
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 2: Fred Warner and Alvin Kamara. The Bills received the picks

1715
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 2: used to draft tore Davius White and Rashaan.

1716
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 5: Can we go back?

1717
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1718
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 5: This is where I get this is a me problem.

1719
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 5: He just said. The forty nine ers used the picks

1720
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 5: to take.

1721
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: Who Fred Warner? Yeah, and Alvin Kamara?

1722
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 5: Who's Alvin Kamara play for the Saints? So Fred Warner

1723
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 5: plays for whoty?

1724
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: Well he used to pay them for forty nine ers.

1725
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,639
Speaker 5: And the Niners? Yeah right, So how do the Niners

1726
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 5: take in them those guys? Did I miss this?

1727
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: And I yeah? Well, he said, the forty nine ers

1728
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 2: received the picks to Fred Warner and they didn't take

1729
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamer unless it wasn't there a game.

1730
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 5: This is my point. Unless you missed words in the email. No,

1731
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 5: had the forty nine ers picked Fred Warner and Alvin Kamara.

1732
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers received the picks used to draft

1733
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 2: Fred Warner and Alvin Commar Kamara.

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01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 5: Two different teams made those picks, so I.

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01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: Don't know what he's talking about. The Bills received the

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01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 2: picks used to draft to Davius White Rashaun Evans. The

1737
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: Browns received the picks used to draft Denzel Ward and

1738
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: Jabrill Pepper's not good either. Why can't the Patriots convert

1739
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 2: the fourth overall pick into multiple pieces just like the

1740
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, Bills and Browns did in the year

1741
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,480
Speaker 2: without perceived high end quarterback.

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01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 5: Talent, they could if somebody wants them. Ye, that year,

1743
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 5: somebody wanted them.

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01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

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01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 5: So I don't know, so we'll see.

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01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Kamara was Yeah, it wasn't like a draft

1747
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: day trader.

1748
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm not gonna get caught up on it. Only

1749
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 5: because of no The Saints took him I think in

1750
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 5: the third round, maybe the fourth round. But the point

1751
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 5: of the email is those quarterbacks weren't highly rated, but

1752
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 5: they still got teams to move up and get them.

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01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 5: The same could happen this time around. I don't think

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01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 5: it will because I think there's like Mitch Trubisky was

1755
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 5: widely considered to be a top three pick for a

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Speaker 5: whole draft, a whole year before he was drafted. These

1757
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 5: guys weren't. Yeah, so we'll see, maybe someone will.

1758
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: Do you know, a stupid trade up like like that, Well,

1759
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 2: it's not stupid if they think it's good.

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01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 5: Well, if the Raiders trade up or the you know,

1761
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 5: one of these teams trades up to get a guy

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01:23:55,360 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 5: who everybody is convinced that they're unsure of, right, makes sense.

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01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 2: But if they end up making it. But if the

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01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: guy ends up being really good, then the Raiders are

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01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: smarter than everybody else and.

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01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 5: They got it right, right, correctly, Which is the point

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01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 5: that I made early in the show about if the

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Speaker 5: guy ends up being worthy of the fourth pick, no

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01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 5: one's gonna say he wasn't worth.

1770
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 2: The fourth pay Mike in Groveland was wondering what you

1771
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 2: thought about ever adding additional offseason in season content. Love

1772
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 2: to see YouTube shows like From the Jungle out of

1773
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 2: Sincy and in the Current from Tampa. Other teams also

1774
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: have that kind of in house hard knock style shows

1775
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: great look behind the scenes and way to get to

1776
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: know players and coaches. Well, Mike, I got news for you.

1777
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna like what we have in store. We're gonna

1778
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 2: have some cool stuff. It's gonna be coming out after

1779
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 2: the draft and uh another episode, uh before training camp.

1780
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have stuff like that. If you like that,

1781
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna love what we're gonna do this season. So

1782
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 2: it's a good email. I don't know if it was

1783
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: a plant, but.

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01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 5: Probably could be.

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01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 9: Did you send that in.

1786
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 10: The meantime if you need some off season content. The

1787
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 10: two thousand and four podcasts, all four episodes, are now available.

1788
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 2: To Yes Yes Good Stuffs The Sound Odyssey with Mike

1789
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: Dussau narrating lots of great interviews. Corey Dillon, who you

1790
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: know you don't get to hear from a lot was

1791
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: a a big It's featured in it. Charlie Weiss, Scott Pioli,

1792
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: who else do we have? Dionne branch Romeo Romeo Crenell's

1793
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: in it, Paul Ivan Fears, Paul Parillo, Thanks Matt, A

1794
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of good.

1795
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 10: I think Paul has some of the greatest stories in

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01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 10: the podcast.

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01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 5: To be honest, I'm a good storytelling sure, sure the

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01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 5: way you tell the story.

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01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: Jeremiah writes in do you think this was an arranged

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01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 2: marriage with McDaniels and Vaibel, even after Rabel just said

1801
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 2: he's been talking to mcdaniels's Cleveland, or it's this scenario

1802
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: just too perfect for the craft that they had to

1803
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 2: be involved in bringing back McDaniels.

1804
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 5: So it's an hour and a half. It's in anything

1805
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 5: negative that stood out to me. Yeah, Like the question

1806
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 5: was about Josh in his life, that was the first question.

1807
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 5: I think it was Karen. I think it was Miss Karen,

1808
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 5: you know, and Mike's I'm extremely proud of the staff

1809
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 5: we put together. Difficult to get everyone that you want,

1810
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 5: you know, the other teams want to hold onto their

1811
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:34,839
Speaker 5: talented coaches. I'm paraphrasing. I would say, having had numerous

1812
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 5: communications with Josh, we had numerous conversations in the end

1813
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 5: that we felt like it was the best fit for

1814
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 5: our offense. I'm sorry, I just think that felt a

1815
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 5: little too convenient to me. I'm not saying that this

1816
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 5: was an arranged marriage. Maybe that's too far the other way,

1817
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 5: but I just can't imagine this was a number one

1818
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 5: top of the line choice that was nobody else, Like

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01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 5: I know, Greg Benard's taking his victory lap. I'm sure

1820
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 5: because he, you know, had the story like three or

1821
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 5: four weeks ago about how this was the way it was,

1822
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 5: and I just felt like that was a little too

1823
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 5: convenient for me.

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01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, like other than getting

1825
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson as the head coach, you know, and that

1826
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: would be your head coach slash offensive coordinator. Like, I

1827
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 2: think Josh is as good a pick as anyone that

1828
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 2: was out there, right, I mean we'll see, Yeah, of

1829
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: course we'll see.

1830
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 5: I wanted something different, but who I gave you a

1831
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 5: list of many, Nick Kayley, I can't think of the

1832
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 5: guy Dave Ragone, Grant Yuzinsky, the guy I think we

1833
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 5: did talk to. I think that that that somebody from

1834
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 5: that tree I would have liked to have seen with

1835
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 5: a different offense. Now. I love Josh. I think he's

1836
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 5: a perfectly good offensive coordinator. I think that the floor

1837
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 5: is high with Josh. I think you'll have a well

1838
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 5: coordinated offense. I'm not sure it'll be as good as

1839
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 5: it could be. Now, the risk would be doing it

1840
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 5: my way opens up the possibility of the guy's just

1841
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 5: not ready and he's just not that talented, and he

1842
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 5: was riding on Sean mcvay's coketails. Yeah he's not it.

1843
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 5: Nick Cayley might fail spectacularly.

1844
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 2: He's never done it, so maybe higher ceiling, but it

1845
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 2: could also be a lower floor.

1846
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, correct, So that's where you know, you have

1847
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 5: to sort of wait and see. And I'm you know,

1848
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 5: I know that I have the reputation and well earned

1849
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 5: of being stubborn when Nick Cayley goes to Houston, and

1850
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 5: if it doesn't work, I'm not going to sit here

1851
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,799
Speaker 5: and say, well, it would have worked in New England,

1852
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 5: which is what Patriots fans do. It would have been

1853
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 5: different if he had come here. No, he failed, and

1854
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 5: I'll say it.

1855
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 2: Denver Omelet writes in interesting Name. Last Thursday, listener wrote

1856
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 2: in saying how the newsletter his name is Bland, Well,

1857
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 2: actually the emails about how the whole show's name is

1858
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 2: blan right filtered. Frankly, I agree the name should have

1859
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: as much bizaz as the show itself does, so I'm

1860
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: suggesting a new name. I present Patriots Unfiltered Weekly, a

1861
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 2: Patriots update brought to you by Patriots Dot com editor

1862
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: Paul Parello and producer Mike do So. Now that's a

1863
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: bit of a mouthful, so for short, we can call

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01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: it as PUPU brought to you by PP and the

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01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 2: Deuce PP in the Deuce.

1866
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for some some advertisement involving PP in the Duce. Okay,

1867
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 5: you might get some of that coming your way soon.

1868
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 2: All right, another suggestion, have you guys ever thought of

1869
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 2: putting the newsletter in print and sending it out to listeners,

1870
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 2: almost like an old school magazine. I don't think any

1871
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 2: team has ever had their own dedicated magazine each week.

1872
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 5: I think he's being that's why I laugh. Yeah, that's funny.

1873
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 2: You guys could even put a photo of the week

1874
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 2: for each game with a fretism as the title, even though,

1875
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 2: uh it's some some website articles thicking it up bad Kitty. Yeah,

1876
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 2: I think he's being about bad Kitty sarcastic.

1877
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 5: When we lost to the Bengals, that was a bad

1878
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 5: one and it was like a cartoon.

1879
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 2: But the background so every week I would have to

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01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 2: do the headline for the cover.

1881
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 5: He wouldn't have to. He just would refuse to use

1882
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 5: any suggestions that Andy and I blogne you used a

1883
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 5: couple of Andy's. You never he never used my weren't great,

1884
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 5: I never really I never hit a home run with that.

1885
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 5: I have to admit so I can. Okay, I admit

1886
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 5: my shortcomings. They were better than bad Kitty, though.

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01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 9: Bad Kitty.

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01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 2: You knew about bad Kiddy. That's a good one. We

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01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: lost to the Bengals.

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01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 9: I'd have to see the photos because.

1891
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 2: We were playing the benk wasn't even a photo.

1892
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 5: It was like the logo of the like the Bengal white.

1893
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 5: It was like almost like it was walking across the

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01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,559
Speaker 5: cover and just said bad kitty.

1895
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, a bad kitty, bad

1896
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 2: kitty because I was mad because they beat us.

1897
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 9: I think there's nothing wrong with that because the.

1898
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Bengals are a cat, right, So you get it.

1899
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, we all got it. It just wasn't good. You

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01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 5: like it, like ready with Willing and Rabel, that's good.

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01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 4: You like that that?

1902
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 5: Absolutely, we were the first ones to use.

1903
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 2: That, were we? Absolutely? Okay? That was after which game

1904
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 2: I don't remember. Yeah, he had a big sack or

1905
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 2: something like that.

1906
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 5: I'm sure he had. I think might have been one

1907
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 5: of his touchdown days too. He might have had a

1908
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 5: sack and a touchdown or something.

1909
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, ready willing and rabel I believe that was an

1911
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 5: Andy Hart original. See, I'm willing to give out the

1912
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 5: credit when it's when it's due. Bad Kitty, not to

1913
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 5: It was a bad cover, Bad Kitty, bad cover. It

1914
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 5: was panned, and a lot of yours were good. Yeah,

1915
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 5: it was globally panned. Like they used to Mark Capello.

1916
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 5: I know, you know. Mark used to often hit up

1917
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 5: Freddy on the bus. Yeah, what do we got, Freddie, Freddy,

1918
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 5: what do we got? Yeah, you know, and he would

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01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 5: he would have always started thinking about it, would always opine.

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01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh I'm sure.

1921
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1922
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

1923
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 2: Tim from our friends at Duncan Uh, very excited for

1924
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 2: the new year and was curious if Rob Gronkowski is

1925
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 2: eligible for the Patriots Hall of Fame this year. Just

1926
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 2: got my season ticket invoice, which for me is the

1927
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 2: start of the new season. He is not eligible, but

1928
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 2: it is not. Julian Edelman is his first year eligible.

1929
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 2: So the new people that are eligible, well, he's not new.

1930
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 2: But we didn't get to nominate him next last year

1931
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 2: because Brady. It was all Brady was vinitari, so vinitary

1932
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 2: in class. Yeah, those two guys are you know, they

1933
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:58,799
Speaker 2: could possibly be nominated.

1934
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 5: Logan Mankins has been nominated, Wes Welker, So there's a

1935
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 5: lot of a lot of good options.

1936
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting So Paul and I

1937
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: are on that committee. We just got the thing where

1938
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 2: we're going to have our meeting in April or April, yeah,

1939
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 2: before our show, so we can I think it's at

1940
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 2: ten third. It is in the morning of a show,

1941
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 2: so we can, assuming that it doesn't go into twelve,

1942
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 2: we can come over here and talk about what we said.

1943
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 2: We're not allowed to talk about what anyone else said,

1944
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 2: but if we wish, we can talk about what we said.

1945
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 5: So we can give our thoughts and opinions, right, but

1946
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 5: don't share the opinions that other people may because it's

1947
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 5: supposed to be a safe space yep, which I say,

1948
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 5: if you say something stupid, you should be exposed.

1949
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 2: But you know, like to me, the big debate is

1950
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: going to be Welker Edelman, right.

1951
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 9: It'd be funny to see Edelman get in first.

1952
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 5: Well, Welker's not getting in, but I think he might.

1953
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 2: Because if you can't even get him.

1954
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 5: On the I can't even get him on the ballot

1955
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 5: because he dropped a pass.

1956
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Which is not fair. But if you look at the stats,

1957
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 2: Welker wins. But if you look at it from this

1958
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 2: is a team hall of Fame and who had the

1959
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 2: bigger impact on the team, I think Edelman wins.

1960
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 4: Right.

1961
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,520
Speaker 9: Edelman's playoff resume.

1962
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, who had the bigger impact on the New England Patriots?

1963
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 5: Welker's playoff resume?

1964
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 2: I know, but it didn't ultimately end up the way.

1965
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 5: That's not the way it should be judged.

1966
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 2: But it's I'm not saying it should have shouldn't be,

1967
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, if you're judging in that way,

1968
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,799
Speaker 2: who had the bigger impact on the New England Patriots?

1969
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 2: Isn't it at all?

1970
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 5: So why Logan Mankins gets on the ballot and Welker doesn't.

1971
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 5: Logan Mankins is never part of any winning No. I'm

1972
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 5: just saying, if it's between the two, if we're going

1973
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 5: on by but he can, he can get on the ballot.

1974
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if the argument, if the arguments between

1975
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 2: Welker and Edelman, there's two ways of looking.

1976
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 5: I would think that Edelman is going to get in first.

1977
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 5: I think he didn't drop a key pass he did,

1978
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 5: but no one everyone wants to talk about it.

1979
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he dropped that.

1980
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 5: He dropped a lot of passes in big games. They

1981
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 5: don't they don't talk about those because they won a

1982
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 5: Super Bowl anyway.

1983
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 2: But he also had key catches and they ended up.

1984
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 5: Winning touchdown in the undefeated Super Bowl.

1985
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 2: I know. I listen, you know, I get it.

1986
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 5: We just completely gloss over.

1987
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 2: Listen. They both should get in, they both should get correct.

1988
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 2: The question is if they're up against each other.

1989
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 5: I would go Welker first. I would say that. I'm

1990
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 5: in the vast minority. I think everybody else would go

1991
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 5: Edelman from He's got a better personality. That's what works forget.

1992
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 5: You don't have to be sarcastic. But I think that's

1993
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 5: a big part of it. That and he didn't drop

1994
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 5: a pass that everybody talks about.

1995
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 2: Not fair, not fair.

1996
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 5: It's like, I know, you think I'm being sarcastic.

1997
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 4: I'm not.

1998
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 5: I think it's ridiculous. I think I've known for one.

1999
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 2: Play it's not fair.

2000
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 5: It's not like that was like the Jackie Smith drop

2001
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 5: in the end zone for for Dallas that year where

2002
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 5: it hit him in the chest or like the Mark

2003
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,440
Speaker 5: Andrews two point conversion. Right, It wasn't a routine.

2004
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 2: Play like that. No, he had to twist a little bit.

2005
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 5: Yeap, And that's all anybody else wants to talk about that.

2006
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 9: Giselle's sound clip will live on forever.

2007
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 5: Correct. Blame her much like everything else, Yoko, blame her

2008
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 5: for everything. Thanks Yoko.

2009
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, when you know when people will look.

2010
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 5: At there, that's quite a little display case.

2011
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 2: Nobody knows what you're talking about.

2012
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 5: On one of my shows radio, they just had the

2013
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 5: waken one to eighty people.

2014
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 2: I have to talk to them today see email report.

2015
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 9: So he passed exactly. You can tell them that.

2016
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 2: So our report again by Mike Reese saying Drake May

2017
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 2: was out in the freezing cold working out in Foxborough.

2018
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm not of the mind of equating this to a

2019
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 2: historic season coming from May, but I think that him

2020
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 2: doing that is setting a great tone for the US

2021
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 2: season in a great way to lead by example for

2022
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 2: the rest of the team. Really excited for his development

2023
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 2: as a leader of the team as much as I

2024
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 2: am for the development of his game. Okay, I like that.

2025
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 9: I mean I must have missed that. Was he like

2026
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 9: actually outside or he's just in fox I think he was.

2027
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 5: In he's in Foxborough, but I'm not familiar with what

2028
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 5: he's talking about.

2029
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 9: Don't know fields to actually playing in right now.

2030
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 5: You can't be on a field. They're all snow covered, right,

2031
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say this.

2032
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.

2033
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:40,799
Speaker 5: When he didn't come back for the Rabel press conference,

2034
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 5: Yeah it was no big deal, which I agree with.

2035
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 5: It's no big deal.

2036
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 2: Was with your guy?

2037
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, correct, But I'm saying the fans, no, it.

2038
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 2: Wasn't a big deal.

2039
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 5: Crucified Felger first.

2040
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct.

2041
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 5: So if it's not a big deal, him being in

2042
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 5: Foxborough can't then be a big deal. Like it's a

2043
01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:58,759
Speaker 5: sign of leadership.

2044
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 2: Oh, it's different than being at a press cot.

2045
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 5: He's not leading anybody.

2046
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:04,520
Speaker 2: He could be working working.

2047
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 5: Out wherever he works out is irrelevant, right.

2048
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 2: No, but he could work out anywhere. But he's here

2049
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:09,959
Speaker 2: in a freezing cold part.

2050
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 5: Right, And that doesn't mean anything. If it didn't mean

2051
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 5: anything to you, that.

2052
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 17: To me.

2053
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 5: If it's a symbolic gesture, then you got to treat

2054
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 5: them symbolically equal.

2055
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2056
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 5: I like Drake May really because you can't tell by

2057
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 5: the way you started this show.

2058
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 2: I liked him, like I.

2059
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,919
Speaker 5: Don't want him being too comfortable on a podcast.

2060
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm a little well because I'm worried about him. I'm

2061
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: trying to protect him.

2062
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 5: You're worried about him, like you think he's doing something

2063
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 5: protected trying to he just needs offensive linemen to protect. So,

2064
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 5: just to be clear, this stuff doesn't it doesn't read

2065
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 5: with me. I'm very concerned.

2066
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 2: You don't think guy should work out them? Didn't It

2067
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 2: didn't bug me.

2068
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 5: Don't be you know, don't like the weight room should be.

2069
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 2: Don't be you don't even need a weight room.

2070
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 5: Don't don't be like you're going to be andy like, yes,

2071
01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 5: yes it did radio. It didn't bug me at all

2072
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 5: that he wasn't at the Rabel press conference. I'm very consistent. No,

2073
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 5: much like this does not cause me to do handstands

2074
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 5: that he supposedly is in Fox.

2075
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 9: This makes it seem like he's set up a weight

2076
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 9: room like literally outdoors, when it's I don't even remember.

2077
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 5: I don't even know what he's well, what what what

2078
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 5: Mike was actually trying to put I don't want to,

2079
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 5: I don't want it doesn't matter to me that he's

2080
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 5: I know he's working out.

2081
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,480
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter between Foxborough.

2082
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Well, there's a facility in Foxborough. Brian McDonough is one

2083
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 2: of the assistants that he runs, and it's like a

2084
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 2: whole workout place. It's got a hockey arena, it's got

2085
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 2: you know, And I know a lot of the guys

2086
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 2: in the off season work out.

2087
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,600
Speaker 5: There, right, and that's great and if that's where they

2088
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 5: could be where he was, but that's where he chooses

2089
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 5: to work out. I don't have any issue with that.

2090
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 5: It just doesn't register as like a positive to me,

2091
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 5: Like unless he's not working out at all and he

2092
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 5: has to come to Foxboro to work out, I don't

2093
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 5: believe that. I believe these guys are all working out religiously.

2094
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 5: So it doesn't matter to me that he's working well.

2095
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 5: Although you just criticized he can't have any conversations with

2096
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 5: the he cold criticized Tom when he stopped coming here

2097
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:06,919
Speaker 5: for the offseason.

2098
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 2: Yes, for teamwork.

2099
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 5: If Drake May is not here on April seventh, that

2100
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 5: will bother, that will be a problem. Yes, I will

2101
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 5: be consistent.

2102
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a good thing. The

2103
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 2: closer he is to hear the better.

2104
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 5: I think that the fact that he's working out but

2105
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 5: he can't have any interaction with them, No, he can't.

2106
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 5: He's not allowed. That's why it doesn't matter to me.

2107
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 5: If he was, if he could be here and be

2108
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 5: like with Josh watching film, that would happen, That to

2109
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:36,639
Speaker 5: me would be that's a strong sign of leadership and commitment.

2110
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 5: He can't do that.

2111
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 2: It's illegal, right, it's against the rules. Correct, Curtis and

2112
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Let's just say best case scenario. T Higgins

2113
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: hits free agency and the Patriots sign him. Ronnie Stanley

2114
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 2: hits free agency and the Patriots get him as well. Okay,

2115
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,920
Speaker 2: how would you guys feel about the Patriots moving up

2116
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 2: in the draft to ensure they get Carter? And it's

2117
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 2: after everyone wants to move down, the Patriots move up

2118
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 2: and get that blue chip guy that or say they're

2119
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 2: able to move down to say nine, they trade with

2120
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 2: the Saints. They swap first round picks and grab New

2121
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 2: Orleans twenty twenty five second in twenty twenty six second

2122
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 2: with a ninth overall pick, the Patriots draft Ashton genty Oh.

2123
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 2: I don't like that, No, but the first scenario is

2124
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 2: not a bad one. You've got two guys now in

2125
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 2: free agency that are absolute needs. So now, but you

2126
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 2: can afford to like.

2127
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 5: You haven't solved your left tackle problem.

2128
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 4: No, you have.

2129
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:36,759
Speaker 5: That's a thirty injured you know, thirty some odd injury prone.

2130
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

2131
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 5: You still need another tackle a and probably need someone

2132
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 5: for the future. But I like the yeah, I like

2133
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 5: the yeah. I mean the idea of moving up to

2134
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 5: get abdul Catter after filling two major needs. You could

2135
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 5: sell me on that. Yeah, I like it, But I

2136
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 5: don't like the idea of trading down for a running back. Yep,

2137
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,719
Speaker 5: that's just my hang up with running backs.

2138
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 2: Brandon wants to weigh in on our sign My Seinfeldt

2139
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 2: take correction to the take Fred. They're not all annoying.

2140
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 2: They're all idiots in their own way, geniuses in something.

2141
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 2: Kramer networking, Kramer networking. George setting low standards as to

2142
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 2: not be disappointed. Elaine was probably the overall smartest and

2143
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 2: most well rounded, and Jerry, being a marginal eighties comedian

2144
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 2: and never deviating, also was the best with money because

2145
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 2: he made more money. I don't not a well written email.

2146
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 5: Sorry, why does well, I don't want to over analyze

2147
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 5: a funny A funny.

2148
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 2: Take Jake and Melbourne. Now that Higgins seems to be

2149
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 2: off the board, well he is unless you want to

2150
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 2: pay up. A report came out about Courtland Sutton looking

2151
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 2: for a new contract. Any interest in training for him

2152
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 2: and giving him some good money for a couple of

2153
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 2: years and have him as a bridge receiver, much better

2154
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 2: option than Cup, but would obviously cost a bit more

2155
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 2: in a trade, a lot more.

2156
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sutton, and he's also injury prone too, Like they

2157
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 5: both both of those guys have durability issues. I like

2158
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 5: the idea of Cup as a mentor not as not

2159
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 5: as like the solution.

2160
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 4: You know.

2161
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 5: I think at this stage of his career, he's probably

2162
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,600
Speaker 5: not going to come in and have a dramatic on

2163
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 5: field impact in your wide receivers, but I think he

2164
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 5: could have a dramatic impact on the room itself. Did

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01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 5: you see those comments. I know a lot of people

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01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 5: have been talking about the Andrew Whitworth comments from the

2167
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, Like he just talked about Cooper Cup like

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01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 5: he's a special, special, special guy. I think they need

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01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 5: someone like that in that room.

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01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I worry about taking the word of

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01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 2: someone who wears those hoodies like Andrew Whitworth wears He's

2172
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 2: got those Paul hoodies all the time.

2173
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:58,519
Speaker 5: That's where my hoodie, you know.

2174
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 2: So like I just you know, it's like grown men

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01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 2: to wear the baseball cap backwards. I just like, I

2176
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 2: can't take you, seriously, not into it. Like college frat

2177
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 2: should be the the line where you stop after that,

2178
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 2: you stop wearing your.

2179
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 5: As the only one even remotely young in this room.

2180
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 9: Well, there's a funny, I would say, women like when

2181
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 9: men wear backwards hats. Really yeah, why I was told

2182
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 9: I don't know, I wish it.

2183
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 5: Just out of college that a woman told me you

2184
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 5: should we have backwards more often. And I was like,

2185
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 5: still a baseball player at that time.

2186
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 2: College is okay, I know, but I was like, no,

2187
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 2: but what is it? You got to explain this? What

2188
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 2: is it appealing about wearing your cap for a woman

2189
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 2: you see their eyes better.

2190
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 9: I can't place it. It's kind of what it.

2191
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 10: Symbolizes, he's a bad boy and ladies love that.

2192
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 9: Maybe it's a bad way, maybe it's youthful.

2193
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2194
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:00,120
Speaker 9: Just it's like the true definition.

2195
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 4: Of like.

2196
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 9: I don't know what it is, but it is?

2197
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 2: What about you? What do you think I love backwards

2198
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 2: town on an older man?

2199
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not she's not interested in.

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01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 9: My name's not Jordan's. But age appropriate? Yeah, yeah, age appropriate.

2201
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 2: I'm with it, Okay, I don't. I don't like it.

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01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

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01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 10: I'm thirty six, frend Should I wear backwards hat?

2204
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 4: No?

2205
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 5: Okay?

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01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 10: Now Alex would look good with the backwards hat.

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01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 9: On, though, Yeah?

2208
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:28,680
Speaker 4: Do you?

2209
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 2: The only time you should wear a backwards hat is

2210
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 2: when you've got your sniper rifle out, then you turn

2211
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:34,719
Speaker 2: your cat backwards.

2212
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 5: Do you wear hats backwards?

2213
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 10: When I wear a hat?

2214
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2215
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 4: I do?

2216
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 9: Do you when you wear the Yeah? The broke covers

2217
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 9: your eyes, that's what it's for. Yeah, fair enough, you know,

2218
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 9: fair enough?

2219
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 10: Especially more once I heard that women like backwards hat

2220
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 10: something men.

2221
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 5: So I didn't just make that up right, Yeah, that's

2222
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 5: a thing.

2223
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 2: So what if I wore my pants backwards? Would that

2224
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:57,839
Speaker 2: be appealing?

2225
01:45:57,960 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 5: Then you'd being criss cross?

2226
01:45:59,160 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 2: Okay?

2227
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 5: To make you jump jump right?

2228
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 9: I think that people just might think you have like

2229
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 9: dementia or something.

2230
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 2: To my show.

2231
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 9: Wow, you really went there, I have If you're not

2232
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 9: putting your pants on the right way.

2233
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, I came to work and

2234
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 2: realized my underwear was on backwards. That happened, Oh, that happens.

2235
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've done that with done, I've done that with

2236
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 9: legs alone there recently actually leggings. Yeah, but leggings are hard.

2237
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 9: It's not like there's a zipper to go in there.

2238
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 5: Not backwards, inside out, inside out.

2239
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't realize it until I got to tell you.

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01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 2: Well, I realized that when I was at the bathroom

2242
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 2: and I was like, I can't get in there. Do

2243
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 2: what's closed? What's going on here? What happened?

2244
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 5: Doors closed? Half backwards thing? That That was definitely a

2245
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 5: flashback to like ninety two for me. When you just

2246
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 5: said that, that's I never got it.

2247
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it has to do with like.

2248
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:58,600
Speaker 9: A backwards hat. You're probably doing something like labor or like.

2249
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 2: Up for fun that.

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01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 5: Too, So that's right then, like Larry, you're looking for

2251
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 5: like you know, tough guys.

2252
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 2: Looking for masculinity, looking for a good time.

2253
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 5: I don't know, want someone that can take care of me.

2254
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 10: I don't have admitted it's all.

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01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 2: We all know.

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01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 9: Well, if they can do manual labor, they can probably

2257
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 9: take it.

2258
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 2: But no matter what the subject, it always gets back

2259
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 2: to Seinfeld. Remember the episode with George, he was the

2260
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 2: bad guy.

2261
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, nothing but trouble right, he takes the gum.

2262
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:31,480
Speaker 2: Right, let's see Claire, Hello, Marien, Hello everyone, Hello. May

2263
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 2: I take the opportunity of an off season time to

2264
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 2: send a quick note of thank you to all at

2265
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 2: PU My Patriots podcast, A Claire Perspective was four years

2266
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 2: old on Sunday, and it wouldn't have happened if there

2267
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 2: were if it were for you all being guests and

2268
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,680
Speaker 2: also being so supportive. So a huge shout out and

2269
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 2: thank you anniversary episode is out today on most of

2270
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 2: the podcast platforms Andy Hart even graciously played the role

2271
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 2: of my assistant. So that's great.

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01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 9: Four years, like all seriousness, is really impressive to be

2273
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:04,839
Speaker 9: that consistent, because.

2274
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 5: Even though I was special guest number one oh one,

2275
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 5: nothing special about that at all. Greece I think was

2276
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 5: one hundred. I mean, if you're into that sort of.

2277
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 2: Prestigious, right uh. Tony writes in Paul Spitting Truth again,

2278
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 2: the amount of people who still hate on Welker, say

2279
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 2: he's a loser, say he's not deserving the Hall drives

2280
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 2: me nuts. Tom missed the throw, plain and simple. Could

2281
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 2: West have caught it? Yes, most of the time he

2282
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 2: makes that catch. I would implore anyone who says Edelman

2283
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 2: is superior to Welker to actually go back and watch

2284
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 2: Welker's game. Is Dan Connolly a better guard than Mankins

2285
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 2: because he won a ring? Is Andy Hart better than

2286
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 2: Deuce because he won a ring? Get with it, people, Yes, yeah,

2287
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 2: different reason. Get with it. People also count me in

2288
01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 2: on Cup but out on Godwin. For wide receiver. Godwin

2289
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 2: coming off off his second major knee injury at twenty nine,

2290
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 2: going on thirty, and almost all players coming back from

2291
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 2: an achilles or acl say they aren't themselves into year two.

2292
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 5: It's like a dislocated ankle.

2293
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 2: Oh Godwin, I don't know.

2294
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2295
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not interested in paying big for an aging

2296
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 2: guy with injury history who may not contribute much until

2297
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 2: halfway through year two of his contrenty.

2298
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a little worried about Godwin's durability, but he

2299
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 5: I mean, if assuming that, assuming that t. Higgins is

2300
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 5: off the table, I mean I'd have to give it

2301
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,759
Speaker 5: some thought. What do you think of? Excuse me? About

2302
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 5: Steph Diggs. I'm kind of out on that at this stage.

2303
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 5: I think he's sort of on the back nine. But

2304
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 5: could you talk yourself into I could. Yeah, its like

2305
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:46,679
Speaker 5: a one year deal.

2306
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 2: I guess I think he's one.

2307
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 5: I think they need to find some I think he's one.

2308
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 2: Of those guys that from right from the jump, he

2309
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 2: can contribute, Like you won't have to worry about that,

2310
01:49:58,400 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 2: you know.

2311
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 9: Like you said, the one year, Yeah, and he'd be

2312
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:02,560
Speaker 9: anything longer than that.

2313
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: You just and you bring him back to that first

2314
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 2: day that he was with Josh Allen. You say, it's

2315
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: no different. You're gonna be with a guy who can

2316
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 2: make plays.

2317
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 4: Right.

2318
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 5: Who's the guy behind Zoe there with the hat on? Oh,

2319
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 5: that's Bledsoe, Pete Carroll.

2320
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 2: That's the offensive line.

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01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 5: Jeff DAVIDSONEF Davidson, good call, Freddy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, good job.

2322
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 5: I was testing you. Sure, I don't know what we're

2323
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:24,679
Speaker 5: talking about.

2324
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 2: They don't, Oh from Wisconsin. So do you all think

2325
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 2: that the bias against Welker is more due to that

2326
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 2: pass or due to the fact that Bill clearly hated

2327
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 2: him at the end.

2328
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 5: I think it's the drop.

2329
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 2: If he didn't drop the way he left for Denver. No, okay, no,

2330
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 2: the way he.

2331
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 5: Left to Denver. They didn't want him, but they tried

2332
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 5: to kick him out two years earlier.

2333
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 2: Weren't they bad mouthing him on the way out the door.

2334
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 5: The Patriots?

2335
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, So fans would hear that and like, oh,

2336
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 2: it's right, we don't like him.

2337
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think that's why they don't like

2338
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:56,719
Speaker 5: You don't think they don't If he caught that pass,

2339
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 5: you think that they would worry about what Bill said

2340
01:50:59,120 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 5: to him on.

2341
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 2: The way out. No, probably not.

2342
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 5: Do they hate ty Law? No, they bad mouthed him

2343
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 5: on the way out.

2344
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 2: But they did. But he's back.

2345
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand this. This is my point. He didn't

2346
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:14,600
Speaker 5: have a key drop in the Super Bowl to unfortunately

2347
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 5: be remembered by.

2348
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 2: Somebody was telling me on our pr staff that he's

2349
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 2: watched that play over and over with Welker, you know,

2350
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 2: from and people have watched it and told him this

2351
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 2: that on the on when Brady's looking out in the field,

2352
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 2: Gronk is wide open, but all of a sudden, on

2353
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 2: the corner of his eye, he sees the safety fall

2354
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 2: down where Welker was, and he changed his mind and

2355
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,560
Speaker 2: kind of threw off balance and so the pass was

2356
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 2: a little bit behind Welker because of that.

2357
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,600
Speaker 5: And in Tom's defense, I've heard people opine and I

2358
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 5: don't know. I haven't heard Tom say this, but he

2359
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 5: kind of threw it where he threw it on purpose, like, yeah,

2360
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 5: try to set him down and avoid the hit, right,

2361
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 5: because it was coverage, he should have caught the pass.

2362
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 5: I am not here to tell you that it's a

2363
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 5: pass that he shouldn't have caught. He should have caught it.

2364
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 5: It wasn't a great throw, but he should have caught it.

2365
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 5: But I just like, I don't understand why you get

2366
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 5: so much for so many plays that he made for

2367
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 5: so many years. Why that's the only thing that anybody remembers.

2368
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 5: That's the part of it. I don't get. Yeah, No,

2369
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 5: will Mark Andrews be persona non grada now Baltimore. I'm

2370
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 5: gonna guess no. Now, maybe they will. Maybe maybe this

2371
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 5: is that's the end of his career and people will

2372
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 5: always remember him for dropping that two point conversion. I

2373
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 5: don't think that will happen, though.

2374
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 2: Rick and Riverside, Rhode Island Evans Analysis is what drew

2375
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 2: me to this podcast. And keeps me here. I love

2376
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 2: how we can talk about schemes and break things down

2377
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 2: in Layman's terms. I'm not sure he does that. Having

2378
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 2: said that, I do agree Barth may carry him a bit.

2379
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 5: Wow, this is unbelieved. This is the worst show ever in.

2380
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 2: This is going to leave a mark.

2381
01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 5: Yes, mainly because we're going to make sure it does this.

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Speaker 2: You'll appreciate this one, Paul. So will Carol Upstairs Tyler

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01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 2: and Georgia writes in I like the idea of sending

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01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 2: out a physical newsletter, but only if you can ensure

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Speaker 2: I get it one to two weeks after it originally

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Speaker 2: comes out.

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Speaker 5: Poor Carol.

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Speaker 2: That was a running joke because back in the day

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01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 2: we would sell Patriots Football weekly on the newstands. But

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01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 2: also you could subscribe to it, and so if if

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01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 2: you're living in Idaho, good luck getting it before the

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Speaker 2: next game came out.

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Speaker 5: I mean didn't exactly come first class. Yeah, So, so

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01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:46,600
Speaker 5: we used to make fun of Carol. Carol Guy and

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01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:47,639
Speaker 5: des Moin didn't get his pace.

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Speaker 9: So you were just like the people like that, like

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01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 9: mailing them individually. It's not like you can send out

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Speaker 9: like a mail truck to hit all the spots.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, well all over the country, you knowing them, well,

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01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 2: your subscription price would go way up. We had to

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01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 2: make it an affordable subscription price, you know. So so

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01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 2: I found out Yeah, no, I found out that the

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01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 2: way the US Post Office works and the reason why

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01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 2: like magazines like Sports Illustrated get delivered in such a

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01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 2: timely manner, it's because of the volume.

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01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 2: We our newspaper would be in a sack, like in

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01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 2: the back of the truck, like with two other things

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01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 2: in it. Yeah, and it would just sit there, whereas

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01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated was, they'd make sure that they got all

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Speaker 2: those out because there were millions of them being being uh, what.

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01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 5: The circulation numbers were for the newspaper?

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01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 9: What the circulator was asking me and Paul who wants

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Speaker 9: to know?

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01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 5: I know what the numbers were?

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01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 2: Who wants to know? Right when Parcells was the head coach,

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01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 2: believe it or not, it was around forty thousand.

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01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 5: But Fred would always answer that question, who's asking?

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01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 9: And where's the furthest you guys would send it, oh

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01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 9: over where.

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01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 17: Let's see, I don't know, probably Japan maybe, wow, yeah, Chiba, Chiba, yeah,

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01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 17: Jason and Chiba.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he always he was a longtime subscriber. I think, yep,

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01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 5: one of our original callers and emailers too.

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01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 2: Let's see what else we got times running out will

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01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 2: He's clarifying something we talked about earlier. This is how

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01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 2: the Saints got Camara picked from San Francisco. Oh okay,

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01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 2: oh good number sixty seven San Francisco to New Orleans.

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01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 2: San Francisco traded a third round selection sixty seventh to

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01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 2: New Orleans in exchange for New Orleans seventh round selection

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01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 2: and their twoenty eighteen second round selection.

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Speaker 5: So it really was not germane to the conversation.

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01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:51,720
Speaker 2: No, but so I knew there had to be some

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01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 2: trade involved something.

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01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. And like I said at the time when we

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01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 5: read that email, I know that wasn't the point. The

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01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 5: point of the email was the quarterbacks weren't you know, so,

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01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 5: you know, considered to be the top of the possible.

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01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 5: The bigger point, the bigger point I think we all

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01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 5: agree on, is that somebody needs to want them.

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01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 2: Somebody needs to want them, and you just don't know

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01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 2: who's gonna end, you know, Like, so you just you

2443
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 2: got to trust in your system, You got to trust

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01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 2: your scouts, you gotta trust the work they did. You

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01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 2: got to trust your talent evaluation and.

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01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 4: Just go for it.

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01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 5: But I don't eliminate the possibility that someone could trade

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01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 5: up with the Patriots to get.

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01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 2: Right because they trust somebody they believe, you know, just

2450
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 2: like if you're the Giants, whether it'should Do Sanders or

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01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 2: they believed Door Sanders is going to be a great

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01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 2: quarterback of this league and we're willing to go up.

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01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 5: I don't think the Giants have any option right now.

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01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 5: They don't have any quot so what have I'm sure

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01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 5: they're they can go to the veteran route, I know,

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01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 5: But what if they don't get one? Yeah, right now,

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01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 5: my guess is they will because they're going to be

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01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 5: able to promise something that most teams aren't going to

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01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 5: one is New York. No, they're going to be able

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01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 5: to promise playing time.

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01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 5: Well, like Sam Darnold could sign with the Giants and

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01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 5: almost be assured of being the starter, whereas if he

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01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 5: signs with somebody else, well we'll see how it goes.

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01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 5: We get JJ McCarthy and you and if McCarthy beat

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01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 5: you out and he's gonna play yep.

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01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 2: Finally, email josh In Atlanta. I'm loving Alex's nineteen fifties

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01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 2: librarian glasses. All she needs, like, yeah, they they're blue

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01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 2: light glasses. You know they're not real.

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01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 9: I'm getting called out.

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01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 2: Do you really not know who is? That hurts me

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01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 2: a little bit. All she needs is a swing dress

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01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 2: and an overabundance of pink lipstick to complete the look.

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01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 2: All jokes aside. I love seeing Alex on the Pod

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01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 2: in the off season, even if she is five months later.

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01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 2: On my Emailer of the Week T shirt, I have

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01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 2: a feeling I'll be waiting for that PU T shirt

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01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 2: on my deathbed. We're having an inventory issue, which I

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01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 2: don't mind as long as I can wear it for

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01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 2: my open casket wake. So we run out of T shirts.

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01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 5: I thought the big sizes.

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01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 9: Oh that's what Matt said. Is that a lot of

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01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 9: our Email or the Week winners want a specific size

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01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 9: that we've run out of inventory.

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01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 2: God, the bid you have a T shirt that fits you?

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01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 9: We gotta we gotta work on revamping left.

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01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 2: Double xls were this okay?

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01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 9: So send those emails in because you have a great

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01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 9: chance of getting So have we ordered new T shirts?

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01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 9: This is a song and dance we every time we talk.

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01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 2: About have we ordered new T shirts? Is my question.

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01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 10: I've been told no, not until the smalls are gone.

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01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 2: No, who said that? Who's who? Ye?

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01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, my manager said that.

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01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 2: Your manager said that. Who's your manager?

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01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 5: These days?

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01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 2: A show said that? Well that's said, okay, but that's crazy. No,

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01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 2: we need to order more. As a matter of fact,

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01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 2: I remember telling Matise and make sure they're of higher

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01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 2: quality because I don't want them shrinking after one.

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Speaker 9: W Yeah, I think we should get some quarter zips

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01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 9: to the zippers can be really long, like down to

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01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 9: your belly button.

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01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 2: Well, then they're not quarter.

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01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 9: No, if it's just for you, I'm trying to start with,

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01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:20,400
Speaker 9: it's still on your side.

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01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 2: We just start with getting.

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01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 5: Don't think they've gone on notice just because they've gone

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01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 5: on the dress.

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01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna order some T shirts, all right. That's gonna

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Speaker 2: that's it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered uh News

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01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 2: coming out of the Combine. We're gonna get all that

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01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 2: on patriots dot com and catch twenty social media accounts.

2514
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 2: What's going on tomorrow anything?

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01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 10: Catch twenty two three.

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01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 5: They're gonna they're gonna.

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01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:46,919
Speaker 2: Live from the combine.

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01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 5: Oh, we can only imagine what Alex would be like

2519
01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:49,800
Speaker 5: then pints off.

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01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Evan and Alex tomorrow three to five live

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01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 2: from the Combine. That'll be good.

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01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,160
Speaker 9: I already know what the newsletter poll is going to

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01:59:57,200 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 9: be this week.

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01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna pit Barth and Evan against each other, all right,

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02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 2: and now we will see you next Tuesday.

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