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Speaker 2: But first the news.
Speaker 3: Somally this government shutdown. I have to say, I can't
Speaker 3: remember time the Democratic base has been more pissed off,
Speaker 3: can you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I was walking in Midtown and I
Speaker 1: ran into a protest of seventy You can see it
Speaker 1: on my Instagram if you want my stories. A protest
Speaker 1: of seventy six people in front of Shumer's office, streaming
Speaker 1: with the signs. And by the way, the day before
Speaker 1: I was walking somewhere because the weather is beautiful. There
Speaker 1: was a huge protest in Trump Tower, and you know,
Speaker 1: here's what's happening. People are protesting because they are furious,
Speaker 1: and they are furious because this is not how the
Speaker 1: federal government is supposed to work at all. And these
Speaker 1: are not AstroTurf protests, right, These are people who are
Speaker 1: so furious because they feel that their government is not
Speaker 1: representing them. And when you open the door to this
Speaker 1: and again, we keep seeing this, right and again, the Republicans,
Speaker 1: Democrats elected not honoring the will of their voters. And
Speaker 1: sooner or later you hit a moment like in the sixties.
Speaker 1: And we saw this in Trump one point zero, right,
Speaker 1: we saw these protests, these kinds of outward displays where
Speaker 1: politics became so all encompassing that people could do nothing
Speaker 1: but go to the streets.
Speaker 2: And I think we're going to see more of this.
Speaker 1: And I really wonder, like in Trump one point zero,
Speaker 1: it felt like he was a little bit more concerned
Speaker 1: with his popularity and with the markets and with the
Speaker 1: outside issues. This time, it feels like he's so sequestered
Speaker 1: from public sentiment that I wonder how much he notices. Again,
Speaker 1: at least the democratic politicians are noticing. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're doing what they need to be doing yet, but
Speaker 1: it is interesting. Look, this is the only way people
Speaker 1: can do it. And we saw in Israel that people
Speaker 1: were in the streets protesting Nanyahu all the time. We've
Speaker 1: seen France. These people love to protest. They protested us
Speaker 1: last week with no shirts.
Speaker 5: On, those silly freds.
Speaker 2: Look, they know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: We're about to witness a lot of protests, and honestly,
Speaker 1: the Trumpers don't like it because they only know at
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment and not the first. But you are
Speaker 1: protected by the United States Constitution for your right to protest.
Speaker 3: We do see a lot of people who are coming
Speaker 3: to us who are very puzzled why Schumer would cave,
Speaker 3: why Jillibrand was so adamant about caving, especially since this
Speaker 3: poll that we see here said that the Democrats are
Speaker 3: not really who would have been blamed.
Speaker 5: What do you see in there?
Speaker 1: AOC who I have quite a lot of respect for
Speaker 1: and think is very smart and is also more importantly,
Speaker 1: quite good at connecting with voters in a way that
Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats are not. Right, you and I
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time talking about why democratic politicians
Speaker 1: have so much trouble connecting with voters, and AOC is
Speaker 1: like Bernie Good at connecting with voters.
Speaker 2: Right, So the question.
Speaker 1: Is, why are these senators just completely unable to sort
Speaker 1: of respect the will of the base.
Speaker 2: And here's what I would say.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to defend them, because honestly, that
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for anyone. But I think that and
Speaker 1: this has been Democrats problem, Democrats problem this entire time,
Speaker 1: which is they're thinking about downgrading the credit, right, they
Speaker 1: are thinking about what a government shutdown would look like. Look,
Speaker 1: government shutdowns are a game of chicken, right, So whoever
Speaker 1: is the craziest will ultimately win a government shutdown.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: It's like when you're driving in New York and you
Speaker 1: pull out in front of someone because you're slightly less
Speaker 1: worried about getting hit by a car than they are.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Mike?
Speaker 3: Can I quote a classic book of negotiation, The Art
Speaker 3: of the Deal?
Speaker 2: You can at your own risk, he who.
Speaker 5: Has the least to lose wins the negotiation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's where we are here, right. Republicans
Speaker 1: want to destroy the federal government. That's the game here, right,
Speaker 1: And the federal government. You know, you and I did
Speaker 1: this project twenty twenty five YouTube series which you can
Speaker 1: see but should be on our YouTube channel too.
Speaker 5: It is on our channel page as of today.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you can look back on this and see
Speaker 1: that we were psychics or we just read the book
Speaker 1: they published which said they were going to do all
Speaker 1: this stuff. So they want a government shutdown forever, right,
Speaker 1: that's all they want. And so ultimately these Democratic senators
Speaker 1: were thinking that they would give Trump more power by
Speaker 1: shutting down the government. Now I think it was a mistake,
Speaker 1: and I think that politically it's a mistake to just
Speaker 1: completely cave to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I sort of.
Speaker 1: Don't understand why Schumer couldn't do more with John Thune.
Speaker 1: Like Thune, again, no one here is not an insane,
Speaker 1: maga Republican, but Thune is a lot less crazy than
Speaker 1: a lot of other Republicans.
Speaker 5: He's no Tommy Tuberville.
Speaker 1: Right, He's no Tommy Tuberville. Oh my god, that is
Speaker 1: the worst thing I've ever heard. He has no Tommy Tuberville.
Speaker 5: Sir, you are no Tommy.
Speaker 1: It is right, is right, And Tommy Tuberville looks like Lincoln.
Speaker 1: Tommy Tuberville the dumbest member of the Senate from the
Speaker 1: great state of Alabama to number fifty in education and heal.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite fifty, but it's up there anyway.
Speaker 1: So the point is an impossible situation, probably played wrong
Speaker 1: by Democrats yet again. Thank you for playing plead an
Speaker 1: utter meltdown on all text change, said a member who
Speaker 1: spoke on the condition of anonymity to offer sensitive details
Speaker 1: of members internal conversation. A senior House Democrats said people
Speaker 1: are furious and that some rank and file members have
Speaker 1: floated the idea of angrily marching onto the Cenate flor
Speaker 1: and protest. Others are openly talking about supporting primary challenges
Speaker 1: to Senators who vote for the GOP spending bill.
Speaker 3: Good stuff, Sami. One of the things that happens if
Speaker 3: you're unfortunately following Elon Musk is you'll see him retweet
Speaker 3: the stupidest thought you've seen in a long time. But
Speaker 3: this one was pretty stupid and scary, especially after a
Speaker 3: week where two times and two weeks Joe Rogan has
Speaker 3: had people on saying very crazy conspiracy theories about the
Speaker 3: Jews running the world. I say this with scare quotes
Speaker 3: here and Elon Musk is now retweeting this.
Speaker 1: He retweeted a tweet from the Alice Smith she seems great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she seems really good from a guy called roth Moose,
Speaker 1: who said Stalin Mao and Hitler didn't murder millions of people,
Speaker 1: their public sector workers did. So the idea is that
Speaker 1: Hitler did not. I can't even know. I'm moving. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just want to move to Italy. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm blaming public sector workers for the Holocaust is a
Speaker 1: hell of a.
Speaker 2: Take, But here we are.
Speaker 1: Musk was condemned by Jewish leaders later, but later condemned
Speaker 1: his critics on X, saying, frankly, they need better dirty tricks.
Speaker 1: The everyone is Hitler attack is so tired. Also, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you still thinks Hitler is bad.
Speaker 2: That's good. That's something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's about all we can get
Speaker 3: in a bargain for I seem to have missed this
Speaker 3: chapter though, where it was the Hitler's willing executioners, where
Speaker 3: it was the public sector workers who are really at fault,
Speaker 3: not him.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of all the good things they're going, well,
Speaker 3: Trump has lost it on his allies at the Wall
Speaker 3: Street Journal op ed page after trashing his economic policies.
Speaker 1: I think it's worth remembering that the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 1: aped is like the brainworms aped right. This is like
Speaker 1: they are one step below the New York Post op ed.
Speaker 1: They are the place where they are just everything they
Speaker 1: everything they think and believe, is completely insane. It is
Speaker 1: like just not anywhere you'd want to be. Okay, But
Speaker 1: they are not thrilled MacDonald Trump crashing the United States
Speaker 1: economy for no reason. So they have been writing about
Speaker 1: how incredibly stupid these tariffs are because they are, and
Speaker 1: Trump is not happy, and so he says the globalis.
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal has no idea what they are doing
Speaker 1: or saying. They are owned by the polluted thinking of
Speaker 1: the European Union.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 1: Yes, the European Union, the real enemy, which was founded
Speaker 1: for the primary purpose of screwing the United States of America.
Speaker 1: Trump raged in a truth social post. Yes, they exist
Speaker 1: to screw over the United States of America.
Speaker 2: That's why the EU.
Speaker 5: Exists for pretty based take yeah.
Speaker 1: Pretty based. Some might even say just stupid there. Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal thinking is antiquated, weak and very bad for
Speaker 1: the USA. But have no fear we will win on everything.
Speaker 1: Egg prices are down, oil is down, interest rates are down.
Speaker 1: Stocks are also down. Tariff's related. That was my I
Speaker 1: added that myself, tariff related money is pouring.
Speaker 2: Into the United States. The only thing you have to.
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Speaker 3: Well, Dug Fast.
Speaker 4: It is always good to be with you on.
Speaker 6: The break of the apocalypse.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's like, I love you so much, and one of
Speaker 1: the many reasons why I love you is because you're
Speaker 1: really smart, but you're also just incredibly thoughtful, and you've
Speaker 1: been through it.
Speaker 4: You were fartue cons I think at this point the
Speaker 4: same we've all been through it and we continue to
Speaker 4: be going through it. It is a little bit difficult
Speaker 4: in these times when we are getting betrayed by the
Speaker 4: only people we thought actually cared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the thing that I'm struck by when I
Speaker 1: think of like I wrote this book that's coming out
Speaker 1: in June about how the year that my husband got
Speaker 1: cancer and my mother got diagnosed to mension, my stepmother
Speaker 1: died and my father in law died and it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like two years ago. I thought,
Speaker 1: this is such a weird book to publish because you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't know what was going to happen, right, because
Speaker 1: you publish a book a couple of years before, So
Speaker 1: you know, I think people can get help from the
Speaker 1: situation of like having this experience. And but what I
Speaker 1: realize now is like, what I got from this experience,
Speaker 1: and I want to talk to you about it because
Speaker 1: I feel like you work in this space, right in
Speaker 1: the mental health space. So but what I got from
Speaker 1: this experience was this incredible focus that like, when you
Speaker 1: are in an emergency, you have very few choices and
Speaker 1: so you must just do the thing that is the
Speaker 1: only thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is why books like yours are relevant across yes,
Speaker 4: paradigms and situations, because it is it is an essential experience,
Speaker 4: regardless of what the experiences are.
Speaker 2: And now everyone is having it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we've been having it for a long time.
Speaker 4: But like what taglines is, you can recover from trauma
Speaker 4: to the extent you can if you are constantly in
Speaker 4: the process of being retraumatized. Yes, correct, by the same token,
Speaker 4: how do you overcome the emergency, the thing that requires
Speaker 4: all of your focus when you have to move on
Speaker 4: to the next one, and then the next one and
Speaker 4: then the next one, which just in addition to being
Speaker 4: exhausting and depleting and innovating, also creates these unprocessed traumas. Yeah,
Speaker 4: many of us have been dealing with this individually and
Speaker 4: collectively since November twenty sixteen. And all of us, whether
Speaker 4: we acknowledge it or not, whether we admit it or not,
Speaker 4: whether we think we feel it or not, have been
Speaker 4: dealing with it since March twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to keep going with this thinking
Speaker 1: because it is true.
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering if we could talk about this.
Speaker 1: You know, I spend a lot of time thinking about
Speaker 1: a sort of how we got here, And what I
Speaker 1: think a lot about is like the trauma that was COVID,
Speaker 1: our collective inability to reconcile this sort of COVID experience.
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Sure.
Speaker 4: To me, the central travity of COVID is that it happened,
Speaker 4: all right, But beyond that, in terms of the context
Speaker 4: of the response to it, which is literally the only
Speaker 4: thing we had control over or that some people had
Speaker 4: control over. Is that crises like that present us potentially
Speaker 4: with an opportunity to be united and to draw strength
Speaker 4: from each other. And because the worst person who has
Speaker 4: literally ever roamed the planet was in charge, decided that,
Speaker 4: and there are complex reasons why, which I don't need
Speaker 4: to get into, but decided that taking the stand he took.
Speaker 4: Of course, I'm talking about Donald that instead of uniting us,
Speaker 4: which is something he's incapable of. He could have been
Speaker 4: a hero, he's incapable of that, he decided to use
Speaker 4: it as a divisive tool to strengthen himself. It was
Speaker 4: a political calculation which cost hundreds of thousands of lives needlessly.
Speaker 4: And instead of being united at this time when we
Speaker 4: were isolated and terrified and suspicious you never know who
Speaker 4: could get you sick, who could kill your kids, he
Speaker 4: made it worse. It was such a betrayal and it
Speaker 4: weakened us, and it traumatized us further because he brought
Speaker 4: on board tens of millions of people who were also
Speaker 4: willing to do that to us. It became purposeful and
Speaker 4: I'm never going to get over that. Ever, So people
Speaker 4: who weren't willing to wear a mask to keep our
Speaker 4: kids from getting this deadly disease. People who weren't willing
Speaker 4: to get vaccinated for the you know, for selfish and
Speaker 4: quite frankly self defeating and self destructive reasons, because they
Speaker 4: didn't care about other people. And he activated that in
Speaker 4: a way obviously it was latent, but he wouldn't have
Speaker 4: been able to activate it. But he activated it in
Speaker 4: a way that has cost us so much as human beings.
Speaker 4: It's empathetic, caring, trusting human beings, and he's degraded all
Speaker 4: of us, and he's diminished us in ways we cannot
Speaker 4: yet fathom. And now, you know, I think that kind
Speaker 4: of I hate. I'm so tired of this ory gets
Speaker 4: baked in. Everything horrible about him is baked in, which
Speaker 4: means we just have to accept it, right, but that
Speaker 4: is all baked in now, so we know, no, there's
Speaker 4: no arguing with Republicans. It's a waste of energy. They're fascist. Now,
Speaker 4: they have their agenda, they're sticking to it, they have
Speaker 4: their projects. So we're left Democrats and now the Democrats
Speaker 4: are the ones betraying us. And it's too much to bear.
Speaker 1: It feels like one of the cardinal sins that Democrats
Speaker 1: keep making is that we keep thinking I'm not gonna say, mate,
Speaker 1: because I actually don't think this, but that there's a
Speaker 1: sort of ethos that the punding class and the leadership
Speaker 1: of the Democrats believe that there will be normal Republicans
Speaker 1: and that one day Republicans wake up from this fever
Speaker 1: dream and be like, oh man, this this was Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not who we are, and in fact, that is
Speaker 1: a complete misreading of the situation.
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right now, I have to be honest with you.
Speaker 4: At this point, it is unfathomable to me, unfathomable, unfathomable. Now,
Speaker 4: we all live in our little bubbles. There's literally nobody
Speaker 4: in my life who disagrees with me in any real
Speaker 4: problematic ways about politics or policy. No, nobody. So that's
Speaker 4: my bubble. But you know, I'm relatively well informed, so
Speaker 4: I understand what's going on outside my bubble. I don't
Speaker 4: think there is any bubble as impermeable as the bubble
Speaker 4: the Senate Democrats live in. That's the only explanation I
Speaker 4: can think of. Have they not witnessed what their colleagues
Speaker 4: have done to them personally, to them as a party
Speaker 4: to this country for years and years now. I don't
Speaker 4: know what they're after the fact that they keep going
Speaker 4: after the imaginary middle at the expense of their base
Speaker 4: it seemed to me and yet another betrayal. And I
Speaker 4: don't understand what the calculus is because honestly, what are
Speaker 4: they getting out of this? It is either that again
Speaker 4: they are so blinded by their insolarity, they are so
Speaker 4: incapable of looking at the real world and the real
Speaker 4: world consequences that they are helping usher in, or there's
Speaker 4: something else going on.
Speaker 2: They're afraid.
Speaker 4: Obviously they're cowards, But what are they afraid of exactly?
Speaker 4: And to me, that is a slap in the face
Speaker 4: to all of us who have been standing strong and
Speaker 4: withstanding and fighting and continuing to believe something that apparently
Speaker 4: democratic senators don't believe it anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, I wonder how much belief has to do with
Speaker 1: any of this, believe it or not, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I wonder if some of this is
Speaker 1: just there's a lack of imagination, right like. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean that in a positive way. I mean that
Speaker 1: in a negative way, right Like. I can't remember what
Speaker 1: historians said that the Holocaust was a lack of imagination.
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't see it coming because they couldn't
Speaker 1: conceive of an evil so pure. And this is obviously
Speaker 1: not the same as the hogous, but it is this
Speaker 1: idea that this kind of level of radicalization they could
Speaker 1: not see coming, like, they couldn't wrap their heads around it,
Speaker 1: and so they just keep sort of this posture of denial.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, yes, nobody could imagine that somebody would
Speaker 4: fly a plane. It's a real trade center.
Speaker 1: Right, Actually that was the comment. I think, yes. Anyways,
Speaker 1: the contary, that's right.
Speaker 4: That was it traps either way. The problem is it's
Speaker 4: not a imagining anymore. We're living. Yet we were having
Speaker 4: these conversations, I mean, some people were having these conversations
Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. I was, but
Speaker 4: I was having them by myself in my living room.
Speaker 4: A lot of us were having these conversations publicly in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty. In September October twenty twenty, before the election,
Speaker 4: I was saying democracy is on an ive s edge.
Speaker 4: If Donald Trump gets back into office, the American experiment
Speaker 4: is over. You were saying that. Many other people were
Speaker 4: saying that, So you cannot tell me that four years later,
Speaker 4: after the big Lie, after the insurrection, which is ten
Speaker 4: times worse and successful, after what has been done to immigrants,
Speaker 4: and on and on and on, you cannot tell me
Speaker 4: that it requires imagination anymore. It just requires looking at
Speaker 4: the fucking.
Speaker 2: Facts, right right. No, No, that's a good point.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm a little heated.
Speaker 1: No, well, I think the problem also is that Democrats
Speaker 1: have had a lot of trouble being able to and
Speaker 1: legislators more generally. I mean it's funny because it's like
Speaker 1: I feel, and again, funny is the wrong word. What
Speaker 1: I mean is tragic, is so crushingly tragic. It is
Speaker 1: so crushingly tragic that we watched in twenty sixteen Republicans
Speaker 1: be decimated by trump Ism, and now you know, in
Speaker 1: the second term of TRUMPSM, we're watching Democrats be decimated
Speaker 1: by trump ISSM. Like both parties were completely unable or unwilling.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter what their motivation is to stand
Speaker 1: up for their constituents.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is quite something, you know. I think you
Speaker 4: asked earlier, are all Republicans this now? And yes, the
Speaker 4: answer is yes, absolutely. I believe that the Republican party
Speaker 4: is a fascist movement now, and to ignore that or
Speaker 4: to pretend that's not true, or to think that, oh
Speaker 4: that's due, that's rude.
Speaker 6: Sorry, we have.
Speaker 4: To look at this straight in the face. What are
Speaker 4: Democrats that the party of Neville Chamberlain.
Speaker 1: It's like this idea about New York City is a
Speaker 1: great example of this.
Speaker 2: Where we both live.
Speaker 1: We have horrendous politicians, right, I mean the horrendous.
Speaker 2: Right, we have a mayoral curse.
Speaker 1: It is like you want to die, how bad the
Speaker 1: politicians in this city are.
Speaker 2: Where our mayor is terrible.
Speaker 1: The guy who is going to run to replace our
Speaker 1: mayor is terrible.
Speaker 4: And he'll be better, but he's still terrible.
Speaker 2: Right, everyone is terrible.
Speaker 1: We just are trying to replace the guy who is
Speaker 1: in like basically a blackmail situation with our fascist president.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean that's really what we're looking at here.
Speaker 1: So why don't good people run for office? Well, we're
Speaker 1: confetent people. I mean that's really where we've come to, Right,
Speaker 1: It's like there are some competent people in office, but
Speaker 1: most almost all clearly like they were all people who
Speaker 1: couldn't get better jobs.
Speaker 2: I Mean, it just strikes me that we are not
Speaker 2: in a great moment. Where is the fucking FDR.
Speaker 4: We are not bringing our best, We are not.
Speaker 2: We have RFK Junior. We don't have JFK. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Yeah, that is a question. New York
Speaker 4: is the greatest city on the planet. We can't get
Speaker 4: it right.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's a little disturbing. I think part of it is
Speaker 4: because what it means to be it's politician has been degraded.
Speaker 4: Like I never understood the whole contempt for politicians, because
Speaker 4: it's like having contempt.
Speaker 2: For public servants.
Speaker 4: Any any person who has expertise in their field, Like technically,
Speaker 4: I've always thought a politician is somebody who is expert
Speaker 4: in government.
Speaker 2: Right, But clearly not, No, they're not.
Speaker 4: And so now politicians are the people who can do
Speaker 4: whatever they can to get into power and then then
Speaker 4: apparently the only thing they care about is keeping it.
Speaker 4: And we're seeing that play out with Democrats as well,
Speaker 4: because they are Democrats like John Assof and Mark Warner
Speaker 4: who are like, well, what is the thing I need
Speaker 4: to do in order to get me reelected? That's your
Speaker 4: priority here. I think part of it is just the
Speaker 4: systemic Why is Alexandria Casio Cortez not the head of
Speaker 4: her committee instead.
Speaker 2: Jerry Les Connolly Jerry conta.
Speaker 6: I'm true.
Speaker 4: He's a lovely man, but he's seventy three. He has
Speaker 4: no social media presence, he has a doesn't understand optics,
Speaker 4: he doesn't understand how to communicate.
Speaker 1: And he has throw cancer and is being treated for
Speaker 1: throw cancer.
Speaker 2: He is seventy four, So we were close. We were close.
Speaker 2: He's seventy four.
Speaker 1: He has throw cancer, which again God bless him, But
Speaker 1: if I had throw cancer, I would want to have
Speaker 1: time to recover. He has seven thousand followers on Instagram versus.
Speaker 2: AOC's millions and millions.
Speaker 1: So I actually was talking to a member and I said,
Speaker 1: you guys, you have a chance to elevate AOC who
Speaker 1: has all of these people who follow her every word,
Speaker 1: or you can elevate a guy nobody has heard of,
Speaker 1: who's in his seventies and who you know has to
Speaker 1: have cancer treatment. And I say, this is someone who
Speaker 1: you know married to someone who just went through cancer treatment.
Speaker 1: It's a bitch, right And he didn't even have such
Speaker 1: bad treatment and it was still a bitch. And he said, well,
Speaker 1: but you don't understand I have a relationship with Jerry.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Lake.
Speaker 1: We just went through a hall election where everyone said
Speaker 1: democracy was on the ballot. So if democracy is on
Speaker 1: the ballot, then I don't care who the.
Speaker 2: Fuck your friends was.
Speaker 4: I don't either, And in fact, if that's your calculus,
Speaker 4: then fuck you too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean that is a real I think
Speaker 1: that's a real question, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's why we need to get very very
Speaker 4: serious about primarying these people. Schumer needs to be primaried Jillibred.
Speaker 4: I'm so ashamed of my state right now because we
Speaker 4: now know that in the closed door Democratic Caucus meeting yesterday,
Speaker 4: Jillibred was leading the charge to cave and obviously Schumer
Speaker 4: as leader owns all of it. And that's New York.
Speaker 4: Thanks guys. They both need to be primary I hope
Speaker 4: Ocasio Cortez primary Schumer. I hope we find somebody to
Speaker 4: primary Jillibrand. I don't know when she's up for reelection.
Speaker 2: Just got reelected. But yes, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Start now, because it's going to cost hundreds of millions
Speaker 4: of dollars, if not more than that. Start now, whoever
Speaker 4: you are, and you know, put them on notice, because
Speaker 4: these people think they can just skate. And this is
Speaker 4: not about making a bad decision that people will forget
Speaker 4: about in six years. This is about making a tragic
Speaker 4: error in judgment that will get us to a point
Speaker 4: in six years in which this country will likely be
Speaker 4: unrecognizable and irredeemable. Right that might be the case in
Speaker 4: six months, for all we know.
Speaker 2: I think that's a real question, Mary, will you please
Speaker 2: come back?
Speaker 4: Of course that will come back. And in fact I
Speaker 4: want to see I want to see you in person
Speaker 4: or IRL.
Speaker 1: I know we have to see each other irl exactly.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mary Trump. Congressman Robert Garcia represents California's forty
Speaker 1: second district. Welcome back to Fast Politics. Congressman Robert Garcia,
Speaker 1: be here. So things are going great.
Speaker 6: Well, I wish, I mean, I think things are absolutely horrific.
Speaker 8: I think we know that it's really really our time,
Speaker 8: and I think at this moment we just all got
Speaker 8: to be very clear eed, but we are in a
Speaker 8: massive shit show and we've got to do everything we
Speaker 8: can to push back as one as we can.
Speaker 6: This is a this is not a great month for
Speaker 6: the country.
Speaker 1: Democrats in the House, everyone except Jared Golden voted against
Speaker 1: his CR and Jared is in an R plus twenty
Speaker 1: seven district domain he is sort of the mansion of
Speaker 1: the House ultimately, and you know he has to protect
Speaker 1: his seat for.
Speaker 2: Whatever that's worth.
Speaker 1: You look at the Senate, you see they have an
Speaker 1: impossible situation. But the base is absolutely fucking furious. So
Speaker 1: I mean, tell me what you think and sort of
Speaker 1: where you are on this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, I think that House Democrats obviously
Speaker 6: did in the absolute right thing, and the base and
Speaker 6: Anti Party and the people on Atlantic are really going
Speaker 6: to support what we're doing. At the end of the day.
Speaker 6: This is not some sort of regular budget fighting. It
Speaker 6: should be clear what this is. This is a framework
Speaker 6: to get the government. It's a framework that does nothing
Speaker 6: to stop what Elon Musk is doing to the agencies.
Speaker 6: It's a framework that essentially sets up massive costs to
Speaker 6: medicate across the country that's actually gonna hurt workings, families
Speaker 6: still dependent, the care on social security and fret. Frankly,
Speaker 6: it ties the hands of us than here us in
Speaker 6: the House of actually trying to fight and push back.
Speaker 6: So it's incredibly infuriating. What constructural is doing and what
Speaker 6: he's allowing to move forward. Quite frankly, it's shameful. I've
Speaker 6: never been more disappointed in him and some of our
Speaker 6: colleagues in the Senate, and we have to everything that
Speaker 6: we can to ring the alarm that this is we
Speaker 6: are in a five alarm fire moment right now for
Speaker 6: our democracy in the country.
Speaker 1: You have really seen this administration firsthand, and it's craziness.
Speaker 2: Talk to us about the letter you got from the DOJ.
Speaker 6: This is crazy. And look, I think it's clear what
Speaker 6: the administration is trying to do and what they're trying
Speaker 6: to intimidate folks. And if you speak out against doct Trump,
Speaker 6: you speak out against Elon Labosk, you're going to be
Speaker 6: punished or beat someone's who try to intimidate. I think
Speaker 6: in this case, we've got a letter from the U citility.
Speaker 6: I mean he is has called himself the President's personal autronity,
Speaker 6: which we know is not appropriate or or constitutional. He
Speaker 6: basically sent me in am A Democrats letters saying that
Speaker 6: we're going to be investigated because of our comments. And
Speaker 6: I mean in my case it was because I literally
Speaker 6: made and set a benefit. I said that we should
Speaker 6: bring open to this bar fight and that it's this
Speaker 6: is the fight for democracy. I mean, that's a figure
Speaker 6: of speech and one that I've used often, and so
Speaker 6: it goes to show you how how crazy and upside
Speaker 6: down the world is and it's dangerous. Is now the
Speaker 6: Justice Department is being weaponized to silence people, and you
Speaker 6: know I won't be silenced. Others aren't going to be silenced,
Speaker 6: and folks like they're being attacked and level of AOC
Speaker 6: or others. I think it's important that folks don't back down.
Speaker 6: It's also not just about me. It's important that this
Speaker 6: is people knowing that this is about silencing all people
Speaker 6: that are actually trying to impose what Donald trumpety one
Speaker 6: that's you're doing. This is it's much broader than just
Speaker 6: about me and people like myself, people like AOC or
Speaker 6: getting these debouts. You are not going to be silenced.
Speaker 1: Are you disappointed that so many people like the billionaire
Speaker 1: tech all of ourcs just fell into place and did
Speaker 1: whatever it has fallen to us to be brave when
Speaker 1: the richest people in the world are giving away their power.
Speaker 6: I think that's what's most frustrating at this moment is yes,
Speaker 6: that are actually getting richer, and working class people, people
Speaker 6: that are poor, people that are trying to get by
Speaker 6: are struggling. And why should the richest person on the
Speaker 6: planet continue to get more and more and more as
Speaker 6: social security and Medicare and food programs and public schools
Speaker 6: get less and less. And that just makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 6: And of course it's not just a Musk. We know
Speaker 6: that a billing you to accumulate more wealth. I mean,
Speaker 6: Neil Musk has only gotten richer since the election, and
Speaker 6: so it's really concerning that more people aren't frustrated that
Speaker 6: the most wealthy continue to get wealthy and working class
Speaker 6: people struggle. That's not a chartist in issue. Anyone, regardless
Speaker 6: of party, whether you're a Republican or Democrat or independent,
Speaker 6: you should be furious there. I think that is something,
Speaker 6: but I hope that all people can come back behind.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Why do you think there's just been so little pushback
Speaker 1: even from the Senate? I mean, have they just not
Speaker 1: been able to figure.
Speaker 2: Out how to do this?
Speaker 1: I mean why you know, if you think about Mitch McConnell,
Speaker 1: I don't think he would have any trouble pushing back
Speaker 1: if Democrats were trying to give free glasses or free
Speaker 1: dental care. I mean, why do you think it seems
Speaker 1: like the Senate is so stuck here.
Speaker 6: I think it's a hard thing we've got to struggle
Speaker 6: with internally. But I don't think that we've been prepared
Speaker 6: for this moment, and I think that we've seen it
Speaker 6: coming on. Why our leaders in the Senate haven't been
Speaker 6: more prepared? Again, I think what Senator Schumer is doing
Speaker 6: now is very disappointing. It's shameful, honestly, that we're chieving
Speaker 6: the way we are. You know, anybody in your community.
Speaker 6: People are furious and we're not matching that anger. And
Speaker 6: I think that that's a big concern and a lot
Speaker 6: of us in the House, a lot of us that
Speaker 6: are out there every day pushing back, finding like hell,
Speaker 6: been calling all the bullshit out and we need, we
Speaker 6: need the Senate to match that energy. And I'm not
Speaker 6: sure if it's just the way the Senate operates. I
Speaker 6: just they think that the world should move slow and
Speaker 6: moving away and the way it's always has been. And
Speaker 6: you know, we our institutions and we've got to respect them.
Speaker 6: Over Those days are over. Those days are over if
Speaker 6: we continue to operate in the way that they're used to.
Speaker 6: We're not going to recognize the country and we're certainly
Speaker 6: not going to do anything to stop building areaship like humility,
Speaker 6: more wealth, and hurting looking people.
Speaker 1: Do you think that part of it is like a
Speaker 1: legislative problem? Do you think that if the Senate were
Speaker 1: a little bit better at legislating, or do you think it's.
Speaker 2: A bravery problem? Like you know, we talk a lot about.
Speaker 1: Harry Reid, who was the leader of the Senate before Schumer,
Speaker 1: and Harry Reid was extremely good at sort of skirting
Speaker 1: the rules in a way that worked, and Schumer has
Speaker 1: not been is quite as good at that. I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think that the Democrats need someone like that
Speaker 1: or do you think that the circumstances are just so impenetrable.
Speaker 6: He's a little on both, But I honestly think we're
Speaker 6: just in different times, and different times require bolder and
Speaker 6: stronger and more breaktions, and we're not seeing that right now.
Speaker 6: We can't play by the same rules and the Harry reddings,
Speaker 6: and also those days are over. We've got to a mode.
Speaker 1: I think about this moment a lot, like what do
Speaker 1: you think Democrats should be doing? Because the base is
Speaker 1: obviously furious. A lot of people are really angry Trump is.
Speaker 1: They certainly are much better organized than last time, but
Speaker 1: luckily still quite incomfident.
Speaker 2: What do you think the smartest move here is.
Speaker 6: First, we've got to match with same energy. It's incredibly
Speaker 6: concerning to think that things are just going to be
Speaker 6: the way they've always been. And that's what I've been
Speaker 6: hearing a lot from colleagues right that somehow everything is
Speaker 6: going to be the same. Oh you know, well, you
Speaker 6: know we'll win in two years, because as Donald Trump's
Speaker 6: in office and Democrats win and off youre oh, it's
Speaker 6: going to be fine. The cycle back. And there's a
Speaker 6: lot of folks that faith this way. That is fucking crazy.
Speaker 6: And we're the federal government's being rated the world's richest
Speaker 6: man is now essentially the co president of the United States.
Speaker 6: Thousands of people are being laid off for no reason.
Speaker 6: Things are not normal. I think that is something that
Speaker 6: I think is really important, is that people understand this
Speaker 6: is not how things needs to be. I think that's
Speaker 6: something that people's got to change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be the question.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the tariffs part of the poison
Speaker 1: pill here, was the tariffs right that it had something
Speaker 1: in it to make it so that Congress was giving
Speaker 1: up its power on tariffs?
Speaker 2: Could you talk to us about that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the tariff's debate is insane. I mean,
Speaker 6: first in all this continuing resolution debate embedded by the
Speaker 6: way and the rules in passing this fake budget spending package,
Speaker 6: is this fucking idea that we shouldn't in Congression have
Speaker 6: the ability to actually roll back any of these tariffs
Speaker 6: that the autops putting in place. These terriiffs are crazy.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm talking to industry groups, supports, all sorts
Speaker 6: of folks, and they have so much uncertainty about what
Speaker 6: to do next. They have no idea what to do next.
Speaker 6: You have small business owners by the way, that don't
Speaker 6: know what to order. You have breweries that are concerned
Speaker 6: about how they're going to actually bring in a lunum
Speaker 6: that they need to have, housing, folks that are trying
Speaker 6: to build they can't get to steal the concept of
Speaker 6: trying to get. And you have America's shipping lines, truckers, ports,
Speaker 6: all of them not knowing how they're going to plan
Speaker 6: for this next upcoming summer and spring season. So it's
Speaker 6: pure chaos and the supply chain. We all remember what
Speaker 6: happened during the pandemic to our ports and what that did.
Speaker 6: We recovered from that. We do not need to go
Speaker 6: back to the uncertainty in trade and so putting tariffs
Speaker 6: on our partners around the world, and certainly a disrespect
Speaker 6: that we are showing to Canada. What kind of insane
Speaker 6: lunatic all's the prime minister, the governor of our fifty
Speaker 6: first state. I mean, this is I mean truly, only
Speaker 6: a insane lunatic is going to do that. I don't
Speaker 6: think people understand. Oh yeah, that's Trump and Trump. No,
Speaker 6: this is not Trump being Trump. This is us destroying
Speaker 6: any sort of respects that we had in the world.
Speaker 6: People are laughing at us, They're scared of us. We're
Speaker 6: voting with Ylan and China and North Korea. What the
Speaker 6: hell is happening to the United States?
Speaker 1: Is there anyone in the Admin? Is the Admin just
Speaker 1: completely as man? I mean, have you found anyone in
Speaker 1: there where it seems like there's someone who's trying to
Speaker 1: sort of be useful in some way or reasonable.
Speaker 6: No, I wish there was someone in the truck, White House,
Speaker 6: or anywhere in the government. That was a reasonable person.
Speaker 6: You know. I remember when they first announced, like Sean
Speaker 6: Duffy and a lot of folks with well, you know
Speaker 6: he was in the house. He's not that, you know,
Speaker 6: he's fine. We'll be able to work with him. I mean,
Speaker 6: the guy's doing whatever Donald Trump and Elon Musk want.
Speaker 6: We have literally planes that are catching on fire, they
Speaker 6: have major accidents and crashes happening, and we're firing four
Speaker 6: to five hundred safety techts and FAA workers. In what
Speaker 6: universe is that actually productive or helpful or safe for
Speaker 6: the flying public? The FAA right now we know already
Speaker 6: it's been reported on multiple times. We are already short
Speaker 6: eight to nine hundred technicians in the work which we
Speaker 6: were already short that just to stabilize the FAA and
Speaker 6: our air traffic control system. So what do we do instead?
Speaker 6: We fire four to five hundred and now we're scrambling.
Speaker 6: So what happens now? We bring on Elon Musk so
Speaker 6: somehow do an assessment to fix the FAA technology. I'm like,
Speaker 6: holy shit, this isn't a startup. We're going to give
Speaker 6: Elon Musk control of the fucking air traffic control towers.
Speaker 6: Is anyone else like as alarmed about this as I am.
Speaker 6: So that he and his buddies can just throw spaghetti
Speaker 6: on the wall. He's nineteen twenty year old kids. This
Speaker 6: is not a video game. These are people's lives. I'm
Speaker 6: very concerned about the future of air travel if this continues,
Speaker 6: and so I wish that we had allies. We don't.
Speaker 1: Is there any chance that you can sort of stop
Speaker 1: any of this? Yes, the air traffic is really worrying me.
Speaker 1: I mean that as someone who is recently conquered a
Speaker 1: fear of flying. That does not feel good.
Speaker 6: No, No, it does not make me feel good, or
Speaker 6: should anybody, or when your family travels. Look, I think
Speaker 6: the bright spot here is that we are getting some wins,
Speaker 6: and so you know, I just I do want to say, Look,
Speaker 6: the public pressure, the protests, the organizing, the resistance, and
Speaker 6: the legal cases that we are winning in court are
Speaker 6: actually making a difference. We are winning some winning significant
Speaker 6: court cases, and with Republican judges, by the way.
Speaker 2: But what are we doing with the FAA.
Speaker 6: We have a legal strategy there as well. We're pushing
Speaker 6: it forward.
Speaker 2: So are we fine flying right now?
Speaker 6: Yes? Flying is still the safest way to travel. I mean,
Speaker 6: there's no question flying is still safe. I should be
Speaker 6: clear about them.
Speaker 2: I actually have some issues.
Speaker 6: So yes, tell us flying continues to be the safest
Speaker 6: way to travel, there's no question. But what we're concerned
Speaker 6: about is the future. We need to make it safe
Speaker 6: for not less safe, and firing workers at the FAA
Speaker 6: is not the way to do it, you know, getting
Speaker 6: Elon Must to come in and somehow using his technology
Speaker 6: to basically change the way that we interact with planes
Speaker 6: and instead of the current system we have. I don't
Speaker 6: know if that's the right approach. I mean, he's trying
Speaker 6: to cancel contracts we've had well with other large companies
Speaker 6: that have gone through a vetting process. Or he can
Speaker 6: come in and do it himself. No, thank you. Take
Speaker 6: your young doge team and put them nowhere near our
Speaker 6: technology in our air traffic control system. So no, it's
Speaker 6: all concerning. We should be concerned. But we are winning
Speaker 6: these court cases and we are starting to push back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, not to like get too much into like this
Speaker 1: is my mental health issue here, but I just you know, I.
Speaker 2: Get a little anxious.
Speaker 1: Do you think I'm curious if you could like talk
Speaker 1: to us about you have these breweries in your district,
Speaker 1: explain to us a little bit about sort of how
Speaker 1: good they are to have in your district, et cetera.
Speaker 6: We've got about ten breweries dot com, and the breweries
Speaker 6: right now are freaking out because the price of aluminum
Speaker 6: is going to start skyrocketing because of the terrorists. You know,
Speaker 6: these are small business owners. These are real people that
Speaker 6: are being impacted, that don't have the certainty that are
Speaker 6: you know, they're they're trying to get by, they're hiring people,
Speaker 6: they're proud of their business. They had no sense of
Speaker 6: what the costs are going to be for their business. So,
Speaker 6: you know, folks are really feeling the pain. And it's
Speaker 6: just really disappointing to me that no one in the
Speaker 6: administration gets that. You know, he's driving up everything. Look,
Speaker 6: it's funny. This is a man right now that's driving
Speaker 6: up the price of eggs. He's tanked the stock market,
Speaker 6: and now he's coming after your beer. I mean, give
Speaker 6: me a break.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also wine. Right, I'm sober, so I don't
Speaker 1: really have a horse in those rights. But that seems
Speaker 1: kind of insane.
Speaker 6: Oh, seems totally totally insane. I mean, the costs are
Speaker 6: what's going up, and people have no idea their costs
Speaker 6: on their groceries, their gas, it's all going to start
Speaker 6: going up because of the teriffs. And so Trump's even said,
Speaker 6: oh yeah, a recession might happen, or Elon Musky like, oh,
Speaker 6: we gotta feel pain. Well, it's easy to not feel
Speaker 6: pain when you're a billionaire and you're very rich. But
Speaker 6: what about working people? What about families that they could
Speaker 6: care less?
Speaker 1: Why do they want to tank the economy? Just not
Speaker 1: to be a pill here? But can you explain to
Speaker 1: me what the thinking here is.
Speaker 6: Look, I think at the end of the day, what
Speaker 6: they're trying to do is they're trying to damage all
Speaker 6: these agencies. They're trying to quote unquote safe money. They're
Speaker 6: trying to redirect funds so that they can pass a
Speaker 6: massive tax cut for themselves to get richer. That's what
Speaker 6: this is all about. And so they don't really care.
Speaker 6: They don't care about taking the economy, they don't care
Speaker 6: about hurting working people because they'll view it as savings
Speaker 6: for their big tax cut. Why do they want to
Speaker 6: take on Medicaid? Well, because that's really the only place
Speaker 6: where they can get the trillions of dollars that they
Speaker 6: need so they can redistribute all that wealth and harder
Speaker 6: benefits to give to their billionaire friends. I mean, this
Speaker 6: is all about it. Anytime you're on I tell people,
Speaker 6: if you're watching TV and you're seeing them cut the
Speaker 6: Department of Education or they're attacking Social Security, or they're
Speaker 6: going after USAID, why are they doing that the government? Well,
Speaker 6: they're doing it because all they care about is money.
Speaker 6: They just care about getting richer. The more and more
Speaker 6: they do that, the less they're spending on things that
Speaker 6: people need and people that we need to help, and
Speaker 6: they can give it back to themselves. They're billion our
Speaker 6: friends Elon Musk's companies. That's where this is headed, and
Speaker 6: it's it should sicken everyone.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Congressman Garcia. I hope I see
Speaker 1: you soon.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, thank you.
Speaker 2: Kathy Hochel is the governor of New York.
Speaker 1: So first we have to have a minute to talk
Speaker 1: about how great congestion pricing is, because it's great.
Speaker 7: You're a fan, right, Okay?
Speaker 1: Isn't everyone who has to live in New York City
Speaker 1: a fan?
Speaker 7: I don't know why not everybody is, but you know,
Speaker 7: we have a very high percentage of people. More people
Speaker 7: now prefer to have it than not, depending on which
Speaker 7: poll you look at. But here's the deal. Congestion is down,
Speaker 7: but people are still coming. And people were afraid that
Speaker 7: people would not come into the city, that this would
Speaker 7: paralyze New York and Broadway shows. I be heard in
Speaker 7: the shops and the restaurants. We're all going to die.
Speaker 7: This was the gloom and doom scenario. And what we
Speaker 7: realize is people are coming to the city, but guess
Speaker 7: what they're taking public transit, which was the whole objective.
Speaker 7: So ridership is up ten percent. People walking the streets.
Speaker 7: I mean you see this. I walk the streets of
Speaker 7: New York.
Speaker 4: I live here four.
Speaker 7: Days a week. It's mobbed. There's this energy and vitality back.
Speaker 7: But the streets are moving again. Accidents are down, Pedestrian
Speaker 7: accidents are down, school buses are arriving on time, and
Speaker 7: even the people from New Jersey who really flipped out
Speaker 7: over this and didn't want it to happen, their commutes
Speaker 7: are dramatically faster. So it has really achieved a high
Speaker 7: quality of life, but also is going to generate revenues
Speaker 7: for the mtaight. So I can invest more money into
Speaker 7: keeping the system strong and actually expanding it.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a huge fan. But now here's the question.
Speaker 1: And everyone I know who lives in New York City
Speaker 1: just thinks it's a game changer. It's ten minutes off
Speaker 1: anywhere you need to go. It's amazing. Now here's the question. So,
Speaker 1: of course, because it is so great, Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: curious about it. Explain to us sort of were you shocked?
Speaker 1: I mean I was also a little bit shocked, like
Speaker 1: why does he care and why is he so obsessed
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 7: Well, he spent a lot of time in New York
Speaker 7: City last summer. Why well, he had thirty four convictions
Speaker 7: right at time, so he was around. He was hearing
Speaker 7: like the Republicans from the Hudson Valley and from Long Island,
Speaker 7: we're just making this a political issue. And he started
Speaker 7: drinking the kool aid of them, saying, oh, this is horrible.
Speaker 7: And I told him, and I talked to him about
Speaker 7: it right after the election. I've spent many times on
Speaker 7: the phone with him. I went and met him in
Speaker 7: his office last Friday night a week ago and said,
Speaker 7: it's working. In fact, I made a really nice brochure
Speaker 7: you and bleez the colors. The words are big, make
Speaker 7: New York City great and fast and beautiful. Really to
Speaker 7: appeal to him directly, right, And I think he feels
Speaker 7: like he made a commitment before the election. Now he's
Speaker 7: got the Republicans that are still in his ear, trying
Speaker 7: to make them happy. But I said, you're a New Yorker.
Speaker 7: Traffic is moving faster in front of Trump Tower, Your
Speaker 7: employees are getting to work faster. Your other CEOs of
Speaker 7: big companies are really happy about this. So I don't
Speaker 7: know if we're going to be able to change that,
Speaker 7: but I feel really confident they will beat him in court.
Speaker 7: So that's where it's going on when they tell us
Speaker 7: to stop, because and if you remember what he did,
Speaker 7: he announced, I'm killing I just killed congestion pricing Long
Speaker 7: Live the King. That was his tweet, Long Live the King.
Speaker 7: So I went holistic. I went into the subway and
Speaker 7: I said, we've not had a king in two hundred
Speaker 7: and fifty years. I'm not about to start now. And
Speaker 7: so I went at it, took it to the mat
Speaker 7: and here we are. We'll just see what happens. But
Speaker 7: I don't know why if there was if he was
Speaker 7: looking at New York City as someone who knows it
Speaker 7: so well, he would see the incredible benefits for just
Speaker 7: quality of life and moving traffic and air quality. It's
Speaker 7: been extraordinary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it's been a huge game changer.
Speaker 1: But I'm curious, Like so, we see different relationships. Different
Speaker 1: governors have different relationships with Trump, right, We've seen people
Speaker 1: have combative relationships. We've seen, you know, he was very
Speaker 1: mad at the governor of Maine. You have an interesting
Speaker 1: position because he does really have a relationship with.
Speaker 2: The city and the state.
Speaker 1: So how have you been able to sort of have
Speaker 1: that relationship and also can you protect New Yorkers from
Speaker 1: some of his really you know, his enormous overstap.
Speaker 7: Well, that remains to be seen. And here's how I
Speaker 7: approached it. Right after election, I said, you know, I
Speaker 7: don't need to be out there fighting everything that happens.
Speaker 7: And even after inauguration day, I said, if you want
Speaker 7: to work with me on major infrastructure, invest in redoing
Speaker 7: Penn Station, which is a hell hole. Penn stationship much better,
Speaker 7: a subway system up to Harlem, the Inner Burial Express
Speaker 7: for people from Brooklyn and Queen Can get places. You
Speaker 7: want to work with me on infrastructure, I'm all there,
Speaker 7: but if you attack our values or come after us
Speaker 7: in any way, then you've got to pick. You're faking
Speaker 7: a fight with me, and I don't mind a fight
Speaker 7: at all. I grew up in a very tough neighborhood
Speaker 7: in Buffalo and got a lot of brothers, so I say,
Speaker 7: bring it on. And I would say, we're in that
Speaker 7: position right now. We've had a lot of pretty high
Speaker 7: profile fights and I'll do it. So I'm not looking
Speaker 7: to hit him on every single thing because we'll lose
Speaker 7: our credibility, and that's what Democrats be careful about. I mean,
Speaker 7: I'm not going to hit him on Ukraine this week.
Speaker 7: Don't have to hit him on certain things. But there's
Speaker 7: enough material now I don't have to wait very long. Yeah,
Speaker 7: coming after Medicaid, you're hurting my people, You're hurting my seniors.
Speaker 7: You're hurting people in nursing homes and dismantling the Department
Speaker 7: of Education. So you don't care about kids with disabilities.
Speaker 7: You don't care about kids having a pelgrant and having
Speaker 7: a chance to better themselves. So now they actually are
Speaker 7: with their budget priorities for the Republicans, but also what
Speaker 7: Trump has done. The fights are right before us now
Speaker 7: and I can't avoid them any longer.
Speaker 1: When you say that to him, when you what is
Speaker 1: he like? Because he's weirdly not combative in person, right,
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like you have captured his ire And
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, do you feel one on one, I know
Speaker 1: that one on one he's actually known to be very parasmatic.
Speaker 2: So do you I.
Speaker 1: Mean, do you you know relatively Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: want to with I mean, you know, but I mean,
Speaker 1: he did get elected twice, so you know, do you
Speaker 1: get a pushback right away when you talk to him
Speaker 1: about stuff like this or does he just sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, take what he likes.
Speaker 7: It's not an angry yell at me in the Oval
Speaker 7: office right when we ask the question, no, no, But
Speaker 7: because I know how to appeel to people as well,
Speaker 7: you're like, hey, mister, you're the first New Yorkers since
Speaker 7: FDR to sit in this office. And then we're on
Speaker 7: a tangent about who's got the bigger FDR desk because
Speaker 7: I have a big FDR desk because he was governor
Speaker 7: before he was president. We get into the conversation. We
Speaker 7: talk about the artwork on the walls and the paintings
Speaker 7: and fix you know, presidents and all. So there are
Speaker 7: just quasi normal conversations, right. But that I'm sitting next
Speaker 7: to Christie Nowman his office. He brought in different people.
Speaker 7: She says, we're coming after the illegal aliens in the
Speaker 7: Roosevelt Hotel, and with such disdain, I mean, like as
Speaker 7: if they're not even human being. So I was so offended.
Speaker 7: I'm coming after those criminals, criminals, And I said, excuse me,
Speaker 7: the Rosebot hotels where people go to register when they
Speaker 7: come across the border. I'm pretty certain that the Venezuelan
Speaker 7: gang members and the people on the terrorism watch lists
Speaker 7: and the gun runners, they're not going and giving their
Speaker 7: name to us at the Roosevelt Hotel. So I think
Speaker 7: we're good. You can leave the moms and families alone.
Speaker 7: I'll help you at the violent criminals. You have a warrant.
Speaker 7: I'll let you do what you need to do. But
Speaker 7: don't just come here. So these are the conversations. You
Speaker 7: have a larger answer to your questions. Like and now,
Speaker 7: Tom Holnen just picked a fight with me today. You know,
Speaker 7: he was all over the news and beating up the
Speaker 7: governor of New York. Okay, doesn't scare me.
Speaker 4: Look, we're kicking on.
Speaker 7: Why does it comes Molly picking out each one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I think that's that's really important to.
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Speaker 3: and search from Fast Politics with Molly Jung Fast Now,
Speaker 3: Jesse Cannon, Mali junk Fast. One of the few places
Speaker 3: we see really really fighting back against Trump is all
Speaker 3: these ages that are suing the Trump administration constantly, to
Speaker 3: the point that one of the big conversations these days
Speaker 3: among people our age is what would you tell your
Speaker 3: kid to go to school for because of AI right now?
Speaker 5: And my answer is somebody who's going to sue the government.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So look from Project twenty twenty five, you and I
Speaker 1: both know part of the game plan here is to
Speaker 1: dismantle the Department of Education. Some of that is because
Speaker 1: they hate poor children, some of that is because they
Speaker 1: hate public schools. Some of that is because they hate
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter. All three can be venged by closing the
Speaker 1: Department of Education. This is actually the Democratic Attorney's General,
Speaker 1: who you and I have been interviewing pretty regularly. That
Speaker 1: group knows what they're doing, and they have been just
Speaker 1: on it with the courts, and they are again together
Speaker 1: from twenty states and the District of Columbia, filing the
Speaker 1: legal challenges in response to the administration's dismissal of more
Speaker 1: than one three hundred workers of the department. The layoffs
Speaker 1: are effectively just mantling the Department of Educations, which is
Speaker 1: of course, as you and I both know the goal,
Speaker 1: so I think it's really good they are on it
Speaker 1: and they are going to fight to keep our federal
Speaker 1: government alive and hopefully it works.
Speaker 5: Agreed.
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