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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: but I was told he was going to be great

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Speaker 1: for the economy. We have such a great show for

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Speaker 1: you today. We will talk to the Mary Trump Shows.

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Speaker 1: Mary Trump, We'll talk about that democratic lack of leadership.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll talk to Congressman Robert Garcia about the real

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Speaker 1: world cost of Donald Trump's tariffs. Plus we'll have a

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Speaker 1: bonus clip from our YouTube where we interviewed New York

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Speaker 1: Governor Kathy Hokeel about how she can protect us from Trump.

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Speaker 2: But first the news.

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Speaker 3: Somally this government shutdown. I have to say, I can't

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Speaker 3: remember time the Democratic base has been more pissed off,

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Speaker 3: can you?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I was walking in Midtown and I

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Speaker 1: ran into a protest of seventy You can see it

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Speaker 1: on my Instagram if you want my stories. A protest

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Speaker 1: was a huge protest in Trump Tower, and you know,

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Speaker 1: here's what's happening. People are protesting because they are furious,

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Speaker 1: and they are furious because this is not how the

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Speaker 1: and again, we keep seeing this, right and again, the Republicans,

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Speaker 1: Democrats elected not honoring the will of their voters. And

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Speaker 1: sooner or later you hit a moment like in the sixties.

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Speaker 1: And we saw this in Trump one point zero, right,

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Speaker 1: we saw these protests, these kinds of outward displays where

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Speaker 2: And I think we're going to see more of this.

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Speaker 1: And I really wonder, like in Trump one point zero,

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Speaker 1: from public sentiment that I wonder how much he notices. Again,

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Speaker 1: at least the democratic politicians are noticing. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it is interesting. Look, this is the only way people

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Speaker 5: On, those silly freds.

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Speaker 2: Look, they know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: We're about to witness a lot of protests, and honestly,

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Speaker 1: the Trumpers don't like it because they only know at

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Speaker 1: the Second Amendment and not the first. But you are

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Speaker 3: We do see a lot of people who are coming

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Speaker 3: to us who are very puzzled why Schumer would cave,

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Speaker 5: What do you see in there?

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Speaker 1: AOC who I have quite a lot of respect for

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Speaker 1: quite good at connecting with voters in a way that

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Speaker 1: a lot of Democrats are not. Right, you and I

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of time talking about why democratic politicians

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Speaker 2: Right, So the question.

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Speaker 1: Is, why are these senators just completely unable to sort

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Speaker 2: And here's what I would say.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to defend them, because honestly, that

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Speaker 1: this has been Democrats problem, Democrats problem this entire time,

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Speaker 1: which is they're thinking about downgrading the credit, right, they

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Speaker 1: are thinking about what a government shutdown would look like. Look,

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you're driving in New York and you

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Mike?

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Speaker 3: Can I quote a classic book of negotiation, The Art

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Speaker 2: You can at your own risk, he who.

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Speaker 5: Has the least to lose wins the negotiation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's where we are here, right. Republicans

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Speaker 1: want to destroy the federal government. That's the game here, right,

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Speaker 1: And the federal government. You know, you and I did

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Speaker 1: this project twenty twenty five YouTube series which you can

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Speaker 5: It is on our channel page as of today.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so you can look back on this and see

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Speaker 1: this stuff. So they want a government shutdown forever, right,

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Speaker 1: that's all they want. And so ultimately these Democratic senators

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Speaker 1: and I think that politically it's a mistake to just

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Speaker 2: I sort of.

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Speaker 1: Don't understand why Schumer couldn't do more with John Thune.

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Speaker 1: Like Thune, again, no one here is not an insane,

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Speaker 5: He's no Tommy Tuberville.

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Speaker 1: Right, He's no Tommy Tuberville. Oh my god, that is

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Speaker 1: the worst thing I've ever heard. He has no Tommy Tuberville.

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Speaker 5: Sir, you are no Tommy.

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Speaker 1: It is right, is right, And Tommy Tuberville looks like Lincoln.

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Speaker 1: Tommy Tuberville the dumbest member of the Senate from the

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Speaker 1: great state of Alabama to number fifty in education and heal.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's quite fifty, but it's up there anyway.

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Speaker 1: So the point is an impossible situation, probably played wrong

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Speaker 1: by Democrats yet again. Thank you for playing plead an

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Sami. One of the things that happens if

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Speaker 3: you're unfortunately following Elon Musk is you'll see him retweet

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Speaker 3: here and Elon Musk is now retweeting this.

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Speaker 1: He retweeted a tweet from the Alice Smith she seems great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she seems really good from a guy called roth Moose,

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Speaker 1: who said Stalin Mao and Hitler didn't murder millions of people,

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Speaker 1: their public sector workers did. So the idea is that

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Speaker 1: I'm blaming public sector workers for the Holocaust is a

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Speaker 2: Take, But here we are.

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Speaker 1: Musk was condemned by Jewish leaders later, but later condemned

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Speaker 1: The everyone is Hitler attack is so tired. Also, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you still thinks Hitler is bad.

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of all the good things they're going, well,

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Speaker 1: they are one step below the New York Post op ed.

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Speaker 1: like just not anywhere you'd want to be. Okay, But

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Speaker 1: the European Union.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the European Union, the real enemy, which was founded

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Speaker 1: for the primary purpose of screwing the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: Trump raged in a truth social post. Yes, they exist

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Speaker 3: Well, Dug Fast.

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Speaker 4: It is always good to be with you on.

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Speaker 6: The break of the apocalypse.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I love you so much, and one of

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Speaker 4: You were fartue cons I think at this point the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the thing that I'm struck by when I

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Speaker 1: this is such a weird book to publish because you know,

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Speaker 1: we didn't know what was going to happen, right, because

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Speaker 1: you know, I think people can get help from the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is why books like yours are relevant across yes,

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Speaker 4: At this point, it is unfathomable to me, unfathomable, unfathomable. Now,

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Speaker 4: That was it traps either way. The problem is it's

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Speaker 1: It's like this idea about New York City is a

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Speaker 4: And we're seeing that play out with Democrats as well,

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Speaker 1: time to recover. He has seven thousand followers on Instagram versus.

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Speaker 2: AOC's millions and millions.

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Speaker 1: So I actually was talking to a member and I said,

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Speaker 1: you guys, you have a chance to elevate AOC who

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Speaker 1: has all of these people who follow her every word,

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Speaker 1: or you can elevate a guy nobody has heard of,

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Speaker 1: who's in his seventies and who you know has to

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Speaker 1: have cancer treatment. And I say, this is someone who

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Speaker 1: you know married to someone who just went through cancer treatment.

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Speaker 1: It's a bitch, right And he didn't even have such

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Speaker 1: bad treatment and it was still a bitch. And he said, well,

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Speaker 1: but you don't understand I have a relationship with Jerry.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Lake.

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Speaker 1: We just went through a hall election where everyone said

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Speaker 1: democracy was on the ballot. So if democracy is on

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Speaker 1: the ballot, then I don't care who the.

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Speaker 2: Fuck your friends was.

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Speaker 4: I don't either, And in fact, if that's your calculus,

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Speaker 4: then fuck you too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean that is a real I think

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Speaker 1: that's a real question, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's why we need to get very very

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Speaker 4: serious about primarying these people. Schumer needs to be primaried Jillibred.

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Speaker 4: I'm so ashamed of my state right now because we

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Speaker 4: now know that in the closed door Democratic Caucus meeting yesterday,

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Speaker 4: Jillibred was leading the charge to cave and obviously Schumer

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Speaker 4: as leader owns all of it. And that's New York.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys. They both need to be primary I hope

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Speaker 4: Ocasio Cortez primary Schumer. I hope we find somebody to

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Speaker 4: primary Jillibrand. I don't know when she's up for reelection.

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Speaker 2: Just got reelected. But yes, I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Start now, because it's going to cost hundreds of millions

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Speaker 4: of dollars, if not more than that. Start now, whoever

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Speaker 4: you are, and you know, put them on notice, because

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Speaker 4: these people think they can just skate. And this is

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Speaker 4: not about making a bad decision that people will forget

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Speaker 4: about in six years. This is about making a tragic

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Speaker 4: error in judgment that will get us to a point

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Speaker 4: in six years in which this country will likely be

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Speaker 4: unrecognizable and irredeemable. Right that might be the case in

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Speaker 4: six months, for all we know.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a real question, Mary, will you please

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Speaker 2: come back?

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Speaker 4: Of course that will come back. And in fact I

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Speaker 4: want to see I want to see you in person

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Speaker 4: or IRL.

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Speaker 1: I know we have to see each other irl exactly.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mary Trump. Congressman Robert Garcia represents California's forty

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Speaker 1: second district. Welcome back to Fast Politics. Congressman Robert Garcia,

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Speaker 1: be here. So things are going great.

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Speaker 6: Well, I wish, I mean, I think things are absolutely horrific.

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Speaker 8: I think we know that it's really really our time,

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Speaker 8: and I think at this moment we just all got

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Speaker 8: to be very clear eed, but we are in a

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Speaker 8: massive shit show and we've got to do everything we

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Speaker 8: can to push back as one as we can.

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Speaker 6: This is a this is not a great month for

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Speaker 6: the country.

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Speaker 1: Democrats in the House, everyone except Jared Golden voted against

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Speaker 1: his CR and Jared is in an R plus twenty

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Speaker 1: seven district domain he is sort of the mansion of

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Speaker 1: the House ultimately, and you know he has to protect

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Speaker 1: his seat for.

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Speaker 2: Whatever that's worth.

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Speaker 1: You look at the Senate, you see they have an

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Speaker 1: impossible situation. But the base is absolutely fucking furious. So

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Speaker 1: I mean, tell me what you think and sort of

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Speaker 1: where you are on this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, I think that House Democrats obviously

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Speaker 6: did in the absolute right thing, and the base and

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Speaker 6: Anti Party and the people on Atlantic are really going

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Speaker 6: to support what we're doing. At the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: This is not some sort of regular budget fighting. It

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Speaker 6: should be clear what this is. This is a framework

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Speaker 6: to get the government. It's a framework that does nothing

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Speaker 6: to stop what Elon Musk is doing to the agencies.

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Speaker 6: It's a framework that essentially sets up massive costs to

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Speaker 6: medicate across the country that's actually gonna hurt workings, families

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Speaker 6: still dependent, the care on social security and fret. Frankly,

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Speaker 6: it ties the hands of us than here us in

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Speaker 6: the House of actually trying to fight and push back.

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Speaker 6: So it's incredibly infuriating. What constructural is doing and what

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Speaker 6: he's allowing to move forward. Quite frankly, it's shameful. I've

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Speaker 6: never been more disappointed in him and some of our

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Speaker 6: colleagues in the Senate, and we have to everything that

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Speaker 6: we can to ring the alarm that this is we

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Speaker 6: are in a five alarm fire moment right now for

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Speaker 6: our democracy in the country.

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Speaker 1: You have really seen this administration firsthand, and it's craziness.

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Speaker 2: Talk to us about the letter you got from the DOJ.

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Speaker 6: This is crazy. And look, I think it's clear what

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Speaker 6: the administration is trying to do and what they're trying

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Speaker 6: to intimidate folks. And if you speak out against doct Trump,

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Speaker 6: you speak out against Elon Labosk, you're going to be

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Speaker 6: punished or beat someone's who try to intimidate. I think

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Speaker 6: in this case, we've got a letter from the U citility.

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Speaker 6: I mean he is has called himself the President's personal autronity,

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Speaker 6: which we know is not appropriate or or constitutional. He

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Speaker 6: basically sent me in am A Democrats letters saying that

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Speaker 6: we're going to be investigated because of our comments. And

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Speaker 6: I mean in my case it was because I literally

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Speaker 6: made and set a benefit. I said that we should

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Speaker 6: bring open to this bar fight and that it's this

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Speaker 6: is the fight for democracy. I mean, that's a figure

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Speaker 6: of speech and one that I've used often, and so

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Speaker 6: it goes to show you how how crazy and upside

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Speaker 6: down the world is and it's dangerous. Is now the

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Speaker 6: Justice Department is being weaponized to silence people, and you

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Speaker 6: know I won't be silenced. Others aren't going to be silenced,

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Speaker 6: and folks like they're being attacked and level of AOC

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Speaker 6: or others. I think it's important that folks don't back down.

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Speaker 6: It's also not just about me. It's important that this

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Speaker 6: is people knowing that this is about silencing all people

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Speaker 6: that are actually trying to impose what Donald trumpety one

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Speaker 6: that's you're doing. This is it's much broader than just

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Speaker 6: about me and people like myself, people like AOC or

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Speaker 6: getting these debouts. You are not going to be silenced.

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Speaker 1: Are you disappointed that so many people like the billionaire

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Speaker 1: tech all of ourcs just fell into place and did

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Speaker 1: whatever it has fallen to us to be brave when

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Speaker 1: the richest people in the world are giving away their power.

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Speaker 6: I think that's what's most frustrating at this moment is yes,

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Speaker 6: that are actually getting richer, and working class people, people

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Speaker 6: that are poor, people that are trying to get by

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Speaker 6: are struggling. And why should the richest person on the

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Speaker 6: planet continue to get more and more and more as

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Speaker 6: social security and Medicare and food programs and public schools

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Speaker 6: get less and less. And that just makes absolutely no sense.

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Speaker 6: And of course it's not just a Musk. We know

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Speaker 6: that a billing you to accumulate more wealth. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Neil Musk has only gotten richer since the election, and

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Speaker 6: so it's really concerning that more people aren't frustrated that

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Speaker 6: the most wealthy continue to get wealthy and working class

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Speaker 6: people struggle. That's not a chartist in issue. Anyone, regardless

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Speaker 6: of party, whether you're a Republican or Democrat or independent,

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Speaker 6: you should be furious there. I think that is something,

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Speaker 6: but I hope that all people can come back behind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think there's just been so little pushback

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Speaker 1: even from the Senate? I mean, have they just not

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Speaker 1: been able to figure.

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Speaker 2: Out how to do this?

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Speaker 1: I mean why you know, if you think about Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he would have any trouble pushing back

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Speaker 1: if Democrats were trying to give free glasses or free

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Speaker 1: dental care. I mean, why do you think it seems

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Speaker 1: like the Senate is so stuck here.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a hard thing we've got to struggle

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Speaker 6: with internally. But I don't think that we've been prepared

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Speaker 6: for this moment, and I think that we've seen it

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Speaker 6: coming on. Why our leaders in the Senate haven't been

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Speaker 6: more prepared? Again, I think what Senator Schumer is doing

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Speaker 6: now is very disappointing. It's shameful, honestly, that we're chieving

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Speaker 6: the way we are. You know, anybody in your community.

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Speaker 6: People are furious and we're not matching that anger. And

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Speaker 6: I think that that's a big concern and a lot

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Speaker 6: of us in the House, a lot of us that

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Speaker 6: are out there every day pushing back, finding like hell,

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Speaker 6: been calling all the bullshit out and we need, we

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Speaker 6: need the Senate to match that energy. And I'm not

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Speaker 6: sure if it's just the way the Senate operates. I

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Speaker 6: just they think that the world should move slow and

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Speaker 6: moving away and the way it's always has been. And

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Speaker 6: you know, we our institutions and we've got to respect them.

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Speaker 6: Over Those days are over. Those days are over if

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Speaker 6: we continue to operate in the way that they're used to.

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Speaker 6: We're not going to recognize the country and we're certainly

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Speaker 6: not going to do anything to stop building areaship like humility,

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Speaker 6: more wealth, and hurting looking people.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that part of it is like a

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Speaker 1: legislative problem? Do you think that if the Senate were

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Speaker 1: a little bit better at legislating, or do you think it's.

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Speaker 2: A bravery problem? Like you know, we talk a lot about.

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Speaker 1: Harry Reid, who was the leader of the Senate before Schumer,

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Speaker 1: and Harry Reid was extremely good at sort of skirting

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Speaker 1: the rules in a way that worked, and Schumer has

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Speaker 1: not been is quite as good at that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you think that the Democrats need someone like that

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Speaker 1: or do you think that the circumstances are just so impenetrable.

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Speaker 6: He's a little on both, But I honestly think we're

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Speaker 6: just in different times, and different times require bolder and

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Speaker 6: stronger and more breaktions, and we're not seeing that right now.

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Speaker 6: We can't play by the same rules and the Harry reddings,

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Speaker 6: and also those days are over. We've got to a mode.

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Speaker 1: I think about this moment a lot, like what do

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Speaker 1: you think Democrats should be doing? Because the base is

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Speaker 1: obviously furious. A lot of people are really angry Trump is.

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Speaker 1: They certainly are much better organized than last time, but

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Speaker 1: luckily still quite incomfident.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the smartest move here is.

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Speaker 6: First, we've got to match with same energy. It's incredibly

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Speaker 6: concerning to think that things are just going to be

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Speaker 6: the way they've always been. And that's what I've been

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Speaker 6: hearing a lot from colleagues right that somehow everything is

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Speaker 6: going to be the same. Oh you know, well, you

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Speaker 6: know we'll win in two years, because as Donald Trump's

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Speaker 6: in office and Democrats win and off youre oh, it's

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Speaker 6: going to be fine. The cycle back. And there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of folks that faith this way. That is fucking crazy.

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Speaker 6: And we're the federal government's being rated the world's richest

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Speaker 6: man is now essentially the co president of the United States.

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Speaker 6: Thousands of people are being laid off for no reason.

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Speaker 6: Things are not normal. I think that is something that

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Speaker 6: I think is really important, is that people understand this

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Speaker 6: is not how things needs to be. I think that's

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Speaker 6: something that people's got to change.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be the question.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the tariffs part of the poison

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Speaker 1: pill here, was the tariffs right that it had something

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Speaker 1: in it to make it so that Congress was giving

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Speaker 1: up its power on tariffs?

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Speaker 2: Could you talk to us about that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the tariff's debate is insane. I mean,

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Speaker 6: first in all this continuing resolution debate embedded by the

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Speaker 6: way and the rules in passing this fake budget spending package,

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Speaker 6: is this fucking idea that we shouldn't in Congression have

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Speaker 6: the ability to actually roll back any of these tariffs

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Speaker 6: that the autops putting in place. These terriiffs are crazy.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm talking to industry groups, supports, all sorts

660
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Speaker 6: of folks, and they have so much uncertainty about what

661
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Speaker 6: to do next. They have no idea what to do next.

662
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Speaker 6: You have small business owners by the way, that don't

663
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Speaker 6: know what to order. You have breweries that are concerned

664
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Speaker 6: about how they're going to actually bring in a lunum

665
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Speaker 6: that they need to have, housing, folks that are trying

666
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 6: to build they can't get to steal the concept of

667
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 6: trying to get. And you have America's shipping lines, truckers, ports,

668
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 6: all of them not knowing how they're going to plan

669
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Speaker 6: for this next upcoming summer and spring season. So it's

670
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 6: pure chaos and the supply chain. We all remember what

671
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 6: happened during the pandemic to our ports and what that did.

672
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 6: We recovered from that. We do not need to go

673
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Speaker 6: back to the uncertainty in trade and so putting tariffs

674
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Speaker 6: on our partners around the world, and certainly a disrespect

675
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Speaker 6: that we are showing to Canada. What kind of insane

676
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Speaker 6: lunatic all's the prime minister, the governor of our fifty

677
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 6: first state. I mean, this is I mean truly, only

678
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 6: a insane lunatic is going to do that. I don't

679
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 6: think people understand. Oh yeah, that's Trump and Trump. No,

680
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 6: this is not Trump being Trump. This is us destroying

681
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Speaker 6: any sort of respects that we had in the world.

682
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Speaker 6: People are laughing at us, They're scared of us. We're

683
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 6: voting with Ylan and China and North Korea. What the

684
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Speaker 6: hell is happening to the United States?

685
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Speaker 1: Is there anyone in the Admin? Is the Admin just

686
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Speaker 1: completely as man? I mean, have you found anyone in

687
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Speaker 1: there where it seems like there's someone who's trying to

688
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Speaker 1: sort of be useful in some way or reasonable.

689
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Speaker 6: No, I wish there was someone in the truck, White House,

690
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 6: or anywhere in the government. That was a reasonable person.

691
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Speaker 6: You know. I remember when they first announced, like Sean

692
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 6: Duffy and a lot of folks with well, you know

693
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Speaker 6: he was in the house. He's not that, you know,

694
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 6: he's fine. We'll be able to work with him. I mean,

695
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 6: the guy's doing whatever Donald Trump and Elon Musk want.

696
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 6: We have literally planes that are catching on fire, they

697
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 6: have major accidents and crashes happening, and we're firing four

698
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Speaker 6: to five hundred safety techts and FAA workers. In what

699
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 6: universe is that actually productive or helpful or safe for

700
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Speaker 6: the flying public? The FAA right now we know already

701
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Speaker 6: it's been reported on multiple times. We are already short

702
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Speaker 6: eight to nine hundred technicians in the work which we

703
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 6: were already short that just to stabilize the FAA and

704
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 6: our air traffic control system. So what do we do instead?

705
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 6: We fire four to five hundred and now we're scrambling.

706
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 6: So what happens now? We bring on Elon Musk so

707
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Speaker 6: somehow do an assessment to fix the FAA technology. I'm like,

708
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 6: holy shit, this isn't a startup. We're going to give

709
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Speaker 6: Elon Musk control of the fucking air traffic control towers.

710
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Speaker 6: Is anyone else like as alarmed about this as I am.

711
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 6: So that he and his buddies can just throw spaghetti

712
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Speaker 6: on the wall. He's nineteen twenty year old kids. This

713
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 6: is not a video game. These are people's lives. I'm

714
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Speaker 6: very concerned about the future of air travel if this continues,

715
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Speaker 6: and so I wish that we had allies. We don't.

716
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Speaker 1: Is there any chance that you can sort of stop

717
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Speaker 1: any of this? Yes, the air traffic is really worrying me.

718
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Speaker 1: I mean that as someone who is recently conquered a

719
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Speaker 1: fear of flying. That does not feel good.

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Speaker 6: No, No, it does not make me feel good, or

721
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Speaker 6: should anybody, or when your family travels. Look, I think

722
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Speaker 6: the bright spot here is that we are getting some wins,

723
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Speaker 6: and so you know, I just I do want to say, Look,

724
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Speaker 6: the public pressure, the protests, the organizing, the resistance, and

725
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Speaker 6: the legal cases that we are winning in court are

726
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Speaker 6: actually making a difference. We are winning some winning significant

727
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Speaker 6: court cases, and with Republican judges, by the way.

728
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Speaker 2: But what are we doing with the FAA.

729
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Speaker 6: We have a legal strategy there as well. We're pushing

730
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Speaker 6: it forward.

731
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Speaker 2: So are we fine flying right now?

732
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Speaker 6: Yes? Flying is still the safest way to travel. I mean,

733
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Speaker 6: there's no question flying is still safe. I should be

734
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Speaker 6: clear about them.

735
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Speaker 2: I actually have some issues.

736
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Speaker 6: So yes, tell us flying continues to be the safest

737
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Speaker 6: way to travel, there's no question. But what we're concerned

738
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Speaker 6: about is the future. We need to make it safe

739
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Speaker 6: for not less safe, and firing workers at the FAA

740
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Speaker 6: is not the way to do it, you know, getting

741
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 6: Elon Must to come in and somehow using his technology

742
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Speaker 6: to basically change the way that we interact with planes

743
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Speaker 6: and instead of the current system we have. I don't

744
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Speaker 6: know if that's the right approach. I mean, he's trying

745
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Speaker 6: to cancel contracts we've had well with other large companies

746
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 6: that have gone through a vetting process. Or he can

747
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 6: come in and do it himself. No, thank you. Take

748
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Speaker 6: your young doge team and put them nowhere near our

749
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Speaker 6: technology in our air traffic control system. So no, it's

750
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Speaker 6: all concerning. We should be concerned. But we are winning

751
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Speaker 6: these court cases and we are starting to push back.

752
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, not to like get too much into like this

754
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: is my mental health issue here, but I just you know, I.

755
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Speaker 2: Get a little anxious.

756
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Speaker 1: Do you think I'm curious if you could like talk

757
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Speaker 1: to us about you have these breweries in your district,

758
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Speaker 1: explain to us a little bit about sort of how

759
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Speaker 1: good they are to have in your district, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: We've got about ten breweries dot com, and the breweries

761
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Speaker 6: right now are freaking out because the price of aluminum

762
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Speaker 6: is going to start skyrocketing because of the terrorists. You know,

763
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Speaker 6: these are small business owners. These are real people that

764
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Speaker 6: are being impacted, that don't have the certainty that are

765
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Speaker 6: you know, they're they're trying to get by, they're hiring people,

766
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Speaker 6: they're proud of their business. They had no sense of

767
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Speaker 6: what the costs are going to be for their business. So,

768
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Speaker 6: you know, folks are really feeling the pain. And it's

769
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Speaker 6: just really disappointing to me that no one in the

770
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Speaker 6: administration gets that. You know, he's driving up everything. Look,

771
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Speaker 6: it's funny. This is a man right now that's driving

772
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Speaker 6: up the price of eggs. He's tanked the stock market,

773
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Speaker 6: and now he's coming after your beer. I mean, give

774
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Speaker 6: me a break.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also wine. Right, I'm sober, so I don't

776
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Speaker 1: really have a horse in those rights. But that seems

777
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Speaker 1: kind of insane.

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Speaker 6: Oh, seems totally totally insane. I mean, the costs are

779
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Speaker 6: what's going up, and people have no idea their costs

780
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Speaker 6: on their groceries, their gas, it's all going to start

781
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Speaker 6: going up because of the teriffs. And so Trump's even said,

782
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Speaker 6: oh yeah, a recession might happen, or Elon Musky like, oh,

783
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Speaker 6: we gotta feel pain. Well, it's easy to not feel

784
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 6: pain when you're a billionaire and you're very rich. But

785
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Speaker 6: what about working people? What about families that they could

786
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Speaker 6: care less?

787
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Speaker 1: Why do they want to tank the economy? Just not

788
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Speaker 1: to be a pill here? But can you explain to

789
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Speaker 1: me what the thinking here is.

790
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Speaker 6: Look, I think at the end of the day, what

791
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 6: they're trying to do is they're trying to damage all

792
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Speaker 6: these agencies. They're trying to quote unquote safe money. They're

793
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 6: trying to redirect funds so that they can pass a

794
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 6: massive tax cut for themselves to get richer. That's what

795
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 6: this is all about. And so they don't really care.

796
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Speaker 6: They don't care about taking the economy, they don't care

797
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Speaker 6: about hurting working people because they'll view it as savings

798
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Speaker 6: for their big tax cut. Why do they want to

799
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Speaker 6: take on Medicaid? Well, because that's really the only place

800
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Speaker 6: where they can get the trillions of dollars that they

801
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 6: need so they can redistribute all that wealth and harder

802
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 6: benefits to give to their billionaire friends. I mean, this

803
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 6: is all about it. Anytime you're on I tell people,

804
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 6: if you're watching TV and you're seeing them cut the

805
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 6: Department of Education or they're attacking Social Security, or they're

806
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 6: going after USAID, why are they doing that the government? Well,

807
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 6: they're doing it because all they care about is money.

808
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 6: They just care about getting richer. The more and more

809
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 6: they do that, the less they're spending on things that

810
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 6: people need and people that we need to help, and

811
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Speaker 6: they can give it back to themselves. They're billion our

812
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 6: friends Elon Musk's companies. That's where this is headed, and

813
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Speaker 6: it's it should sicken everyone.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Congressman Garcia. I hope I see

815
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Speaker 1: you soon.

816
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, thank you.

817
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Speaker 2: Kathy Hochel is the governor of New York.

818
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Speaker 1: So first we have to have a minute to talk

819
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Speaker 1: about how great congestion pricing is, because it's great.

820
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Speaker 7: You're a fan, right, Okay?

821
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Speaker 1: Isn't everyone who has to live in New York City

822
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Speaker 1: a fan?

823
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Speaker 7: I don't know why not everybody is, but you know,

824
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 7: we have a very high percentage of people. More people

825
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 7: now prefer to have it than not, depending on which

826
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Speaker 7: poll you look at. But here's the deal. Congestion is down,

827
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 7: but people are still coming. And people were afraid that

828
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Speaker 7: people would not come into the city, that this would

829
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 7: paralyze New York and Broadway shows. I be heard in

830
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Speaker 7: the shops and the restaurants. We're all going to die.

831
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Speaker 7: This was the gloom and doom scenario. And what we

832
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 7: realize is people are coming to the city, but guess

833
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Speaker 7: what they're taking public transit, which was the whole objective.

834
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Speaker 7: So ridership is up ten percent. People walking the streets.

835
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Speaker 7: I mean you see this. I walk the streets of

836
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Speaker 7: New York.

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Speaker 4: I live here four.

838
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Speaker 7: Days a week. It's mobbed. There's this energy and vitality back.

839
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Speaker 7: But the streets are moving again. Accidents are down, Pedestrian

840
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 7: accidents are down, school buses are arriving on time, and

841
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Speaker 7: even the people from New Jersey who really flipped out

842
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 7: over this and didn't want it to happen, their commutes

843
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 7: are dramatically faster. So it has really achieved a high

844
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 7: quality of life, but also is going to generate revenues

845
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Speaker 7: for the mtaight. So I can invest more money into

846
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Speaker 7: keeping the system strong and actually expanding it.

847
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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a huge fan. But now here's the question.

848
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Speaker 1: And everyone I know who lives in New York City

849
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Speaker 1: just thinks it's a game changer. It's ten minutes off

850
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: anywhere you need to go. It's amazing. Now here's the question. So,

851
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: of course, because it is so great, Donald Trump is

852
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: curious about it. Explain to us sort of were you shocked?

853
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean I was also a little bit shocked, like

854
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: why does he care and why is he so obsessed

855
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Speaker 1: with that?

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Speaker 7: Well, he spent a lot of time in New York

857
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 7: City last summer. Why well, he had thirty four convictions

858
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 7: right at time, so he was around. He was hearing

859
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 7: like the Republicans from the Hudson Valley and from Long Island,

860
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 7: we're just making this a political issue. And he started

861
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 7: drinking the kool aid of them, saying, oh, this is horrible.

862
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 7: And I told him, and I talked to him about

863
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Speaker 7: it right after the election. I've spent many times on

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Speaker 7: the phone with him. I went and met him in

865
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Speaker 7: his office last Friday night a week ago and said,

866
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Speaker 7: it's working. In fact, I made a really nice brochure

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Speaker 7: you and bleez the colors. The words are big, make

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Speaker 7: New York City great and fast and beautiful. Really to

869
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Speaker 7: appeal to him directly, right, And I think he feels

870
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Speaker 7: like he made a commitment before the election. Now he's

871
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 7: got the Republicans that are still in his ear, trying

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Speaker 7: to make them happy. But I said, you're a New Yorker.

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Speaker 7: Traffic is moving faster in front of Trump Tower, Your

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Speaker 7: employees are getting to work faster. Your other CEOs of

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Speaker 7: big companies are really happy about this. So I don't

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Speaker 7: know if we're going to be able to change that,

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Speaker 7: but I feel really confident they will beat him in court.

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Speaker 7: So that's where it's going on when they tell us

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Speaker 7: to stop, because and if you remember what he did,

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Speaker 7: he announced, I'm killing I just killed congestion pricing Long

881
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Speaker 7: Live the King. That was his tweet, Long Live the King.

882
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Speaker 7: So I went holistic. I went into the subway and

883
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Speaker 7: I said, we've not had a king in two hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty years. I'm not about to start now. And

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Speaker 7: so I went at it, took it to the mat

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Speaker 7: and here we are. We'll just see what happens. But

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Speaker 7: I don't know why if there was if he was

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Speaker 7: looking at New York City as someone who knows it

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Speaker 7: so well, he would see the incredible benefits for just

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Speaker 7: quality of life and moving traffic and air quality. It's

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Speaker 7: been extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it's been a huge game changer.

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious, Like so, we see different relationships. Different

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Speaker 1: governors have different relationships with Trump, right, We've seen people

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Speaker 1: have combative relationships. We've seen, you know, he was very

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Speaker 1: mad at the governor of Maine. You have an interesting

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Speaker 1: position because he does really have a relationship with.

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Speaker 2: The city and the state.

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Speaker 1: So how have you been able to sort of have

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Speaker 1: that relationship and also can you protect New Yorkers from

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Speaker 1: some of his really you know, his enormous overstap.

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Speaker 7: Well, that remains to be seen. And here's how I

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Speaker 7: approached it. Right after election, I said, you know, I

904
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Speaker 7: don't need to be out there fighting everything that happens.

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Speaker 7: And even after inauguration day, I said, if you want

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Speaker 7: to work with me on major infrastructure, invest in redoing

907
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Speaker 7: Penn Station, which is a hell hole. Penn stationship much better,

908
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Speaker 7: a subway system up to Harlem, the Inner Burial Express

909
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Speaker 7: for people from Brooklyn and Queen Can get places. You

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Speaker 7: want to work with me on infrastructure, I'm all there,

911
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Speaker 7: but if you attack our values or come after us

912
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Speaker 7: in any way, then you've got to pick. You're faking

913
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Speaker 7: a fight with me, and I don't mind a fight

914
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Speaker 7: at all. I grew up in a very tough neighborhood

915
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Speaker 7: in Buffalo and got a lot of brothers, so I say,

916
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Speaker 7: bring it on. And I would say, we're in that

917
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Speaker 7: position right now. We've had a lot of pretty high

918
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Speaker 7: profile fights and I'll do it. So I'm not looking

919
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Speaker 7: to hit him on every single thing because we'll lose

920
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Speaker 7: our credibility, and that's what Democrats be careful about. I mean,

921
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Speaker 7: I'm not going to hit him on Ukraine this week.

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Speaker 7: Don't have to hit him on certain things. But there's

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Speaker 7: enough material now I don't have to wait very long. Yeah,

924
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Speaker 7: coming after Medicaid, you're hurting my people, You're hurting my seniors.

925
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Speaker 7: You're hurting people in nursing homes and dismantling the Department

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Speaker 7: of Education. So you don't care about kids with disabilities.

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Speaker 7: You don't care about kids having a pelgrant and having

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Speaker 7: a chance to better themselves. So now they actually are

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Speaker 7: with their budget priorities for the Republicans, but also what

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Speaker 7: Trump has done. The fights are right before us now

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Speaker 7: and I can't avoid them any longer.

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Speaker 1: When you say that to him, when you what is

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Speaker 1: he like? Because he's weirdly not combative in person, right,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like you have captured his ire And

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, do you feel one on one, I know

936
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Speaker 1: that one on one he's actually known to be very parasmatic.

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Speaker 2: So do you I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, do you you know relatively Yeah, you know, I

939
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Speaker 1: want to with I mean, you know, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: he did get elected twice, so you know, do you

941
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Speaker 1: get a pushback right away when you talk to him

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Speaker 1: about stuff like this or does he just sort of,

943
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Speaker 1: you know, take what he likes.

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Speaker 7: It's not an angry yell at me in the Oval

945
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Speaker 7: office right when we ask the question, no, no, But

946
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Speaker 7: because I know how to appeel to people as well,

947
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Speaker 7: you're like, hey, mister, you're the first New Yorkers since

948
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Speaker 7: FDR to sit in this office. And then we're on

949
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Speaker 7: a tangent about who's got the bigger FDR desk because

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Speaker 7: I have a big FDR desk because he was governor

951
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Speaker 7: before he was president. We get into the conversation. We

952
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Speaker 7: talk about the artwork on the walls and the paintings

953
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Speaker 7: and fix you know, presidents and all. So there are

954
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Speaker 7: just quasi normal conversations, right. But that I'm sitting next

955
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Speaker 7: to Christie Nowman his office. He brought in different people.

956
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Speaker 7: She says, we're coming after the illegal aliens in the

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Speaker 7: Roosevelt Hotel, and with such disdain, I mean, like as

958
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Speaker 7: if they're not even human being. So I was so offended.

959
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Speaker 7: I'm coming after those criminals, criminals, And I said, excuse me,

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Speaker 7: the Rosebot hotels where people go to register when they

961
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Speaker 7: come across the border. I'm pretty certain that the Venezuelan

962
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Speaker 7: gang members and the people on the terrorism watch lists

963
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Speaker 7: and the gun runners, they're not going and giving their

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Speaker 7: name to us at the Roosevelt Hotel. So I think

965
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Speaker 7: we're good. You can leave the moms and families alone.

966
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Speaker 7: I'll help you at the violent criminals. You have a warrant.

967
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Speaker 7: I'll let you do what you need to do. But

968
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Speaker 7: don't just come here. So these are the conversations. You

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Speaker 7: have a larger answer to your questions. Like and now,

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Speaker 7: Tom Holnen just picked a fight with me today. You know,

971
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Speaker 7: he was all over the news and beating up the

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Speaker 7: governor of New York. Okay, doesn't scare me.

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Speaker 4: Look, we're kicking on.

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Speaker 7: Why does it comes Molly picking out each one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I think that's that's really important to.

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Speaker 3: Hear the rest of the interview. Head over to YouTube

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Speaker 3: and search from Fast Politics with Molly Jung Fast Now,

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Speaker 3: Jesse Cannon, Mali junk Fast. One of the few places

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Speaker 3: we see really really fighting back against Trump is all

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Speaker 3: these ages that are suing the Trump administration constantly, to

981
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Speaker 3: the point that one of the big conversations these days

982
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Speaker 3: among people our age is what would you tell your

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Speaker 3: kid to go to school for because of AI right now?

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Speaker 5: And my answer is somebody who's going to sue the government.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So look from Project twenty twenty five, you and I

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Speaker 1: both know part of the game plan here is to

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Speaker 1: dismantle the Department of Education. Some of that is because

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Speaker 1: they hate poor children, some of that is because they

990
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Speaker 1: hate public schools. Some of that is because they hate

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter. All three can be venged by closing the

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Speaker 1: Department of Education. This is actually the Democratic Attorney's General,

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Speaker 1: who you and I have been interviewing pretty regularly. That

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Speaker 1: group knows what they're doing, and they have been just

995
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Speaker 1: on it with the courts, and they are again together

996
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Speaker 1: from twenty states and the District of Columbia, filing the

997
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Speaker 1: legal challenges in response to the administration's dismissal of more

998
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Speaker 1: than one three hundred workers of the department. The layoffs

999
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Speaker 1: are effectively just mantling the Department of Educations, which is

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Speaker 1: of course, as you and I both know the goal,

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Speaker 1: so I think it's really good they are on it

1002
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Speaker 1: and they are going to fight to keep our federal

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Speaker 1: government alive and hopefully it works.

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Speaker 5: Agreed.

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