WEBVTT - Mike Vrabel 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.800 Ladies and gentlemen the boys. Thank you for coming on 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:06.560 Busting with the Boys. My name is Taylor la One. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.959 This is my young gentleman next to me, Will Compton. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.360 I'm so excited to have you on today. You know 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:15.520 why because we're gonna have a little lesson. You guys 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.439 are a little tiny puppies. You're just getting potty trained, 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:20.799 and you guys are getting more responsibility as you go, 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.439 and I'm really happy for you. What I need you 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.079 to do, if you can listen to me, listen to 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:27.840 my soothing voice, I need you to go. You need 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.640 to pull out your phone. If you're driving, pull over park, 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.879 look at your phone. Go on busting' WTB. That's for 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.760 Twitter and Instagram. You need to follow and just like everything, 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:40.479 be that annoying guy that likes all of it, just 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.400 so you're trying to get attention. Do that. Go to YouTube. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:46.600 I need you to go on YouTube. I need you 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.760 to subscribe because there's a lot of things we're doing 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.959 well here, but one thing if I had to put 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:55.520 in a column of could do better or needs work, subscribers, 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.320 we need a little babies to do it. And if 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.200 you subscribe and you forget about us. Guess what, We're 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.440 still getting them clicks babies. All right, So it's gonna 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.280 be okay. You're gonna be okay because I'm gonna hold 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:05.240 your hand through the whole thing. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:06.759 All right. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:12.240 Our guest today is probably my biggest nightmare come true. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.160 My guest today. Our guest today, the bust one with 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.960 the boys was Mike Rabel, the head coach at the 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.960 Tennessee Titans. Not only is he a head coach, before that, 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.840 he was with the Houston Texans for two years once 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.040 is the DC and then the year before that was 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.600 a linebacker. Keep going backwards, it's like a real It's 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.080 like a Quentin Tarantino movie. We're going backwards before we 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.399 go forwards. So now we're going backwards to any farther. 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.360 Now we're at Ohio State. He plays the He coached 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.399 there for I believe one or two years. Not really 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:43.200 important because it's Ohio State and nobody cares on the bus. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.720 So now we go back and I'm gonna just go 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.600 on a long way here. The man played fourteen years 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.960 in the NFL. If you're thinking, how good is that, well, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.040 the answer is the average in the NFL is three 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:59.120 and a half years so pretty good. Okay, okay, he 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.120 did pretty good. A lot of guys don't do as good. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:06.680 So he did pretty good, all right, fourteen years there, 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.520 played at Ohio State before, so you can tell he 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.560 doesn't make the best life decisions. But I will tell 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.519 you the man is very charismatic. He's a great leader, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.880 He's got a lot of fun conversation. He just absolutely 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.720 butchers will. It's very unfortunate to see. And I'm looking 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.000 at one of my best friends on the highway like roadkill, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:28.520 and I don't know what to do to I drag 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.200 him off the road or just let him suffer or 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:31.760 just wait for that semi tried to hit him again, 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.799 so we know for sure he's dead, you know what 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.800 I'm saying, because he ain't gonna make it regardless. I 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:38.800 want to give a little shout out to our boys 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.840 with the Quaker City Nighthawks. Why cause that's a dope 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.160 af to see. I'm twenty nineteen babies, and I'm twenty 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.800 seven years old, and look at me, dude, I'm so 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:54.720 hip with it. Quaker City Nighthawks af all right, the 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.720 coolest intro song we've got, that's our interest song, and 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.239 it's a dope name. Thank you to those guys helping 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.000 us out with that whole thing. So I don't know 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.560 what else to say other than you are now bus 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.080 and with the boys. They boys, big hugs, and remember, 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:14.639 I just want you to. 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:19.359 Know we've had to tape a couple. Yeah, I can 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.320 only imagine good ones. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.000 Yeah, this bus was picked up in Mississippi. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.040 So what were they using it before this? What were 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:29.040 they doing with it before this? 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.720 It was the NASCAR bus like they were taking it 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.320 to different NASCAR events. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:36.600 It actually ran. 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.200 Yeah, you used to run and now it's the Will's home. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:41.520 We're trying to get it running again. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.160 Yeah, dude, you will get anything going. Joe got this 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.840 thing the generator running. Good for jet were rolling, all right, 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.240 Thank you for coming on busting with the boys. Will 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:57.839 and I don't want to be here tonight. We are, 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.800 we are, We're about to go down dark. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.240 Let's tell the truth. Now, let's tell the truth. We 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.440 wanted to come on the bus. Id okay, cool, I 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.120 wanted you to come on to you. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.760 That's dodging me. That daddy is home just in case 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:12.119 you guys. 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.600 Hey, look, first off, let's just let's just hit it 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.520 real quick. All right. I don't know if you see 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.159 a little the TV. There's three keys to success. The 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.400 number one most important thing, and I know you can read, 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.640 but I'll say it for you. It's our podcast, not 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.560 a squad. We're running this. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:29.920 Ship down. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:35.520 It's important, all right. Number two, don't interrupt the boys. 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.120 You might be thinking this is a good time for 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:38.920 me to come in. You're gonna get met with a 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.120 quick oops. Sorry, we made a mistake. We interrupted. We're 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.479 gonna move on, all right, Hey, come on, don't start 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.680 and Jesus is already ruining the podcast. And then last thing, 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.120 can't settle for field goals Eagles game. Yeah, you were 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:52.040 a bit of a hero that day. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:52.520 There you go. 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:53.720 So we got we got two. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.240 I'll do my best. I understand that this is your podcast. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:04:59.440 I will try not to interrupt. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:00.400 It's our cast. 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:01.440 I know. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.360 He just pays for it. You're in charge. I got it. 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.480 We already got shot fire it. Hey, but you you 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.919 had texted You had texted Taylor and say, hey, when's 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:13.320 we gonna stop dodging me on the bus? 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:13.560 Right? 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.240 I didn't. I don't think I texted him. I walked 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:16.960 in the offensive lind meeting. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.960 Well, that's happened. Well, it goes back way farther than that. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.080 If we first started this podcast, you were like you 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.799 kind of gave me like the all right, so whenever 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.880 you want Dad on the bus, let me know. Because 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.119 every time he comes to the old line room, he walked, 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.040 he opens the door, and I never looked behind me 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:35.599 because I always assume it's him, and he yeah, he's 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.239 always got three three in the trigger, three in the chamber. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.839 Baby baby walks up, goes up right behind me, slaps 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.320 the ship out of my back every time he goes 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.280 Daddy's home, boys, what are we doing? And I'm just 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.880 what are we doing? And what are we going over? 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.240 But it's I mean, it's a decent idea. I mean, 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.400 summer ratings dip. You just bring Daddy on and then 0:05:55.480 --> 0:06:00.280 let's see if we can get early July bomb. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.440 But the main thing is you you have you had 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.880 my number, You've always had my number I have And 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.239 I know you wanted to speak to Taylor, but Taylor 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.200 told me, and I'm like, my god, that's a nice 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.040 little fire, Like when's we're gonna stop dugging me? And 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:12.640 but I'm like, you know, the boy, he's got my number. 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.760 We can, we can know, we can make it happen. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.600 Which we go to camp July twenty fifth, and you know, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.520 obviously a lot of things. Three of us are just 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:20.960 the two of us right now, it's just gonna be 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.920 the us right now, it's just the two of them. 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:25.240 Hey, I'm not gonna lie when he said we got 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.840 camp Jolly twenty fifth already, like gonna he's just gonna 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.960 take a shot at me right now's. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.240 Gonna open the door. And John Robinson right there with 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.839 like your letter getting invited. Oh man, So what's going 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.320 on with that? You like Riley Bullert better? 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.240 No, it's not that we like we do not have 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:42.720 to do this. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:44.240 We're not going through you. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.799 No, no, we're not. Do you want to listen? 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.520 If everybody wants to know the answer, it's pro football. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.520 A lot of those things happen, and that's the guy. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:52.960 It's the business, guys. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:54.800 It's part of the gig. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.000 Guys. Yeah, I get it. Will he's not in the 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.440 room anymore. Like it's pro football. It's the way it goes. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.920 I still say it because you're consistent. You're consistent. You're 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:04.920 going from good to great this year. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.400 I can tell we're doing our best. 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.000 We're doing our absolutely. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.400 Did you think about your funny subject matter the way 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:11.280 he wanted to be treated? 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.800 Yeah? So like you're my boss, and so I got 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.760 there's a there's a fine line, right, we'll right what 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.840 I can toe and I can't toe. So I gotta know, like, 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.920 do you want special treatment while you're on here? Do 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.080 you want to be treated like everybody else? 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:24.760 I think you can ask me whatever you want to 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.880 ask me, and I have an opportunity to answer it 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:27.480 however I want. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:33.000 Okay, cool, he's solid. Well, all right, tell me about 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:34.240 the first time you masturbated? 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.760 How was that? You know that you you we've been 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:39.440 We've been through this. It wasn't that great. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.800 We've been through There are conversations that are going into 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.480 the old line row and you will you can't answer. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.800 You can't ask a question that you already. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.520 Tell me about the first time you lost your virginity? 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:53.480 What was already know that? 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:55.240 I don't know that. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.960 I don't know. When everybody has to rank one to ten, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.040 it's like some guys are like a three. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:02.240 First off, Hey, I. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.480 Don't know you. I don't know the virginity story. That's 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.640 the old line gig when you're in our room. It's 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:07.880 just let me just take. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.120 It was with my wife, our wedding night. It was 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:17.920 a very special occasion. It was amazing. It was amazing 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.920 special the last five minutes of my life. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:25.360 Five minutes. That's a record setting for your first time. Oh, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.880 we'll just take a driver of the list you got 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:27.440 to follow up? 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:27.640 Or no? 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.240 What is now? I know you basically shoved down both 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.320 the funny fun questions. What we got up there? So, uh, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.880 let's start from the beginning. Ohio state. You grew up. 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:37.640 You grew up in Ohio? 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:38.559 Right, I did? 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:40.400 What made you go to Ohio? Stay? 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:40.719 Were you like? 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:42.640 I was committed. I was going to go to Michigan 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:43.920 and what yep? 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:44.559 Oh, here we go. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.800 We got what you would call it Michigan lean up 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.600 until the time I took my visit and then. 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:57.199 It didn't go well. 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.000 It was one of those bad this is back in wheneveryboy, 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:01.920 he took visits like you didn't commit until you took 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.400 a visit after the senior year, and that you know. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:05.400 That's how it was. 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.600 And so went to Notre Dame. I loved it, went, 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.120 but it really wasn't in play. Michigan was still the lean. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.640 And then I took my visit in December. Next week 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:19.199 went to Ohio State and realized that Ohio State was 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.560 was the place for me. But I really just because 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.360 my first I went I went to a football camp. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.040 I went to the Michigan football camp with my buddies 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.120 in high school. Just went up there, stayed in the dorms, 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.360 was out running around on the field and they asked, 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.520 this is when Gary Muller was still the coach. When 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.120 they said, Coach Mouller want to see him thinking we 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:35.360 didn't get in trouble already. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:36.880 We only been here like six hours. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.920 And so then he offered me a scholarship just in 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.920 his office. I had no idea, like I wasn't being 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.119 really recruited or anything. And then he offered me a scholarship, 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.880 and then played my next year and went up there 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.400 on saturdays for football games, and just it just wasn't right. Fit, 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:52.520 just wasn't right fit. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.160 Was there something specific that happened during your visit, like 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:56.760 the guys you just didn't mess with the dude. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.600 Yeah, the guy that they gave me, it didn't go well. 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.840 He said he got sick. But then you know Lloyd 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.920 I will tell you this. Lloyd Carr's son, Jason salvaged 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.160 the visit was he was phenomenal to this day. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.400 I remember the visit because of that. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.599 He wasn't my host, but he's like, dude, I know 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.240 you're not coming here, but I'll make this night fun. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:18.640 And it was because of your visit. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.800 When you change your mind, yeah wow, because I think 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.920 to me, the thing I told Tyler when he went 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.720 to Boston was looking at colleges or even when now 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.640 Carter's looking isn't don't pick the school because you have 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:31.760 a relationship with the coach. 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.839 You think the coach is cool. You got to pick 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.559 a school because of the players in the school. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.959 Like, the players don't leave and the school never changes, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.679 But the coaches, you'a offer him two hundred thousand dollars more, 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.760 they're leaving. I don't care what they say. In recruiting, 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.920 I told every kid I recruited the same way. If 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.559 something else comes along, that's better for me my family 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.120 than Ohio State, I'm gonna go. But Ohio State's still 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.040 the best place for you. And that's what happened. I 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.079 when I'm going to the Texas, Yeah, and had to 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:56.880 call and I went I left before recruiting. I'm like, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.679 I'm not gonna wait till February third to leave and 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.600 go to the Texans. I'm gonna leave in January when 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.520 you know the job's ready. And I told every kid 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.559 that I was recruiting, this is the best place for 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.040 me and Jen and Carter and Tyler, and Ohio State's 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:09.679 the best place for you. 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:11.760 Yeah, you had you had a good You had a 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.360 good like recruiting store. I think you told me who 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.120 was it? Some linebacker that wanted to bring you into 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:17.800 a hot stain. You like left a baseball game to 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.360 like go see him at Ohio State and you're like, listen, 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:20.000 May like I'm not. 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.079 He ended up in Georgia, and you know it was 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.800 just you're at the beck and call of some of 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.280 these guys and they're just and he's like, I thought 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:29.920 this would be a lot better. I was like, listen, man, 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.319 I left the baseball game to come like see you, Like, 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.520 let's let's do the stadium tour where you want to go? 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.400 Like, but my kid over here playing baseball down the street. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.160 And you always kept a real with the recruits that 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.040 came in. That's saying you were gonna not not that 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.440 you're gonna leave, but you're like listen, like it's the business. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.679 I don't think you ever publicized to another player like hey, 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:47.720 there's a chance that won't be here. 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.959 No, but I always told him like just because you 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.360 may like me or you may like your position, coach like, 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.600 that's great, but if you don't get in and see 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.800 the players and hang out with the players, those are 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.360 the guys that you I mean, you're best are the 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.120 ones My best friends are the ones I played college 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.880 football with, and some of them from pro football, but 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.400 obviously the ones that you you go to college and 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:08.760 you kind of figure out who you are. Like the 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.480 high school is tough, it's you know, a lot of 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.240 a lot of kids. My kids moved around, they're in 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.760 different high schools. But you get to college you kind 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.839 of figure out, like who you hang out with, who 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.599 your guys like, what they like, and that's kind of 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.520 where you figure out, you know, who you're gonna hang 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:22.480 out with and be friends with. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.199 I got you and fast forwarding after college, you got you. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.400 You were drafting the third round right yep, to the 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.880 Patriot to uh steel Steelers. Your transition from like, well 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.840 what happened at the Steelers that made you a longtime 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:35.840 guy with the Patriots. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:37.719 So I think what happened was they tried to play 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.520 me at D line. I tried to play d ND 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.120 in Pittsburgh. So literally my first year, I think I 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:46.120 played six positions. I played like three technique five technique 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.520 outside backer, and I mean that was all over them, 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.160 just because you were kind of tweeting because I was 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.079 real measurable, correct, but I but I salvaged on some 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.760 role on third down in special teams. Then I was 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.120 in a car accident and I lost like twenty pounds, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.679 and so they were like, well, we think you'd probably 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.079 be a better outside linebacker. So I ended up learning 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.839 how to play that position. Took a little longer, took 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.520 probably two years until I was ready to start. By 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:15.360 that time, Joey Porter was starting and I was playing, 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.000 but I was rotating. It was like play a series 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.559 each half. So my contract came up and Belichick offered 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.040 me less than what I got as a rookie signing bonus. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.480 It was just an opportunity deal, and Cower was like, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.559 I think, you know, I can give you that money, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.920 but I can't give you the same opportunity. So then 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.160 I took the opportunity and. 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:34.920 You're with the Patriots. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:35.800 How long eight years? 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:37.000 Was that? 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.120 Was that your favorite? That was probably your favorite? 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.800 Stant Well, I mean obviously, I mean it's where we 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.760 had the most success as a team individually. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:46.920 You know, it was good. I'll be honest with you. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.400 My first what eight years of four years of high 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:51.480 school and four years of Pittsburgh. 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.080 I was no longer than two hours away from my house. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.319 Four years saying four years of college, four years of 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.920 college school, yeah, four years of college, excuse me? 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.319 And then four years and then fell I was no 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.800 more than an hour and forty five minutes from Akron, Ohio, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.480 Columbus and Pittsburgh. So it was kind of like it 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.440 was good for us as a family to get away 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.680 and just it was us. It was us four Carter 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.199 was born when we were up there, and it was 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.439 just good just to be able to get away. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:20.760 And not have just friends family being there every single minute. 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.600 And a lot of your buddies came from the Patriots. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.920 I only say that because I saw you at the 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.240 I saw you in a picture at what was it, 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.960 the Kentucky Derby with all the boys and I'm sitting there, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.760 like I'm sitting there chuckling, like, look at Brave just 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.640 with the boys that like that he played like he's 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.280 a coach now that he's probably there, like, hey, boys, 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.480 remember I whooped your ass this past year? You know 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:43.800 what I mean? 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.320 Probably, I mean a pretty good chance I would I 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:52.480 would imagine that that went on. But it's unique to 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.720 still be able to I mean, suck Up was a rookie. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:55.200 When I was a player. 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.160 Yeah, that's right in Kansas City. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.320 So it's it's kind of funny to look at him 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.200 and see how he he's grown and he's you know, 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.880 got a wife and kids, and he's still playing. And 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:05.880 I mean he was a rookie when I was still 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.720 playing in Kansas City and k lou last year, right, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.640 you know. I think the one thing with the Patriots 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.400 was the first year that I signed there in two 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.760 thousand and one, there was twenty six new players on 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.560 that team, like Bill had completely just flipped the roster 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.360 from two thousand to two thousand. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:26.440 And one, and William McGinnis was was a holdover, Teddy. 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:31.360 Bruski ty law lawyer Marloy and we drafted Seymour that 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.040 year and Tom. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.920 You know, Brady was a holdover, but you know, he 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.560 really was just a backup quarterback. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.760 And then Bledsoe got hurt and I think in the 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.720 third week and Tom kind of came in and you know, 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.600 we kind of got on a roll and won. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.400 I think we won nine games after Thanksgiving. If you 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.120 can imagine that. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.680 Before Tom played, could you tell he was special? 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.960 Well, I watched him work and I did think that 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.280 he was a dude. He was a leader. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.360 He was a dude that when we went out in 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.520 training camp and we had a night off or whatever, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.080 he was right in the middle with the boys and 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.000 you know, having a good time. And I get that 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.360 that's changed over the course of his career and his 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.200 life and you know, his family and as he's gotten older. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.280 But I think you recognized early on that people would 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.000 play for him, that guys would play hard for him. 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.400 And and we threw a lot, We ran the ball, 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:18.520 We threw a bunch of screens. 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.160 Troy Brown had like one hundred and five catches for 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:22.920 seven and a half yard average. 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:27.000 I mean, it was just we manufactured wins that first year. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.720 But there were so many new players that the Larry 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.000 Izzo came in and we had so many new guys 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.520 that we didn't have a chance. There was no other 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.520 way than to come together with the holdovers that they had, 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.760 and then all these other new guys that that Billett 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:41.880 signed in free agency. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.360 How how did you how did your mindset change? Like 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.080 after you playing with the Patriots for eight years and 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.920 you how long did you play at KC too? How 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:56.360