Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen the boys. Thank you for coming on
Speaker 1: Busting with the Boys. My name is Taylor la One.
Speaker 1: This is my young gentleman next to me, Will Compton.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you on today. You know
Speaker 1: why because we're gonna have a little lesson. You guys
Speaker 1: are a little tiny puppies. You're just getting potty trained,
Speaker 1: and you guys are getting more responsibility as you go,
Speaker 1: and I'm really happy for you. What I need you
Speaker 1: to do, if you can listen to me, listen to
Speaker 1: my soothing voice, I need you to go. You need
Speaker 1: to pull out your phone. If you're driving, pull over park,
Speaker 1: look at your phone. Go on busting' WTB. That's for
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram. You need to follow and just like everything,
Speaker 1: be that annoying guy that likes all of it, just
Speaker 1: so you're trying to get attention. Do that. Go to YouTube.
Speaker 1: I need you to go on YouTube. I need you
Speaker 1: to subscribe because there's a lot of things we're doing
Speaker 1: well here, but one thing if I had to put
Speaker 1: in a column of could do better or needs work, subscribers,
Speaker 1: we need a little babies to do it. And if
Speaker 1: you subscribe and you forget about us. Guess what, We're
Speaker 1: still getting them clicks babies. All right, So it's gonna
Speaker 1: be okay. You're gonna be okay because I'm gonna hold
Speaker 1: your hand through the whole thing.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Our guest today is probably my biggest nightmare come true.
Speaker 1: My guest today. Our guest today, the bust one with
Speaker 1: the boys was Mike Rabel, the head coach at the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Not only is he a head coach, before that,
Speaker 1: he was with the Houston Texans for two years once
Speaker 1: is the DC and then the year before that was
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Keep going backwards, it's like a real It's
Speaker 1: like a Quentin Tarantino movie. We're going backwards before we
Speaker 1: go forwards. So now we're going backwards to any farther.
Speaker 1: Now we're at Ohio State. He plays the He coached
Speaker 1: there for I believe one or two years. Not really
Speaker 1: important because it's Ohio State and nobody cares on the bus.
Speaker 1: So now we go back and I'm gonna just go
Speaker 1: on a long way here. The man played fourteen years
Speaker 1: in the NFL. If you're thinking, how good is that, well,
Speaker 1: the answer is the average in the NFL is three
Speaker 1: and a half years so pretty good. Okay, okay, he
Speaker 1: did pretty good. A lot of guys don't do as good.
Speaker 1: So he did pretty good, all right, fourteen years there,
Speaker 1: played at Ohio State before, so you can tell he
Speaker 1: doesn't make the best life decisions. But I will tell
Speaker 1: you the man is very charismatic. He's a great leader,
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of fun conversation. He just absolutely
Speaker 1: butchers will. It's very unfortunate to see. And I'm looking
Speaker 1: at one of my best friends on the highway like roadkill,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to do to I drag
Speaker 1: him off the road or just let him suffer or
Speaker 1: just wait for that semi tried to hit him again,
Speaker 1: so we know for sure he's dead, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because he ain't gonna make it regardless. I
Speaker 1: want to give a little shout out to our boys
Speaker 1: with the Quaker City Nighthawks. Why cause that's a dope
Speaker 1: af to see. I'm twenty nineteen babies, and I'm twenty
Speaker 1: seven years old, and look at me, dude, I'm so
Speaker 1: hip with it. Quaker City Nighthawks af all right, the
Speaker 1: coolest intro song we've got, that's our interest song, and
Speaker 1: it's a dope name. Thank you to those guys helping
Speaker 1: us out with that whole thing. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what else to say other than you are now bus
Speaker 1: and with the boys. They boys, big hugs, and remember,
Speaker 1: I just want you to.
Speaker 2: Know we've had to tape a couple. Yeah, I can
Speaker 2: only imagine good ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this bus was picked up in Mississippi.
Speaker 3: So what were they using it before this? What were
Speaker 3: they doing with it before this?
Speaker 1: It was the NASCAR bus like they were taking it
Speaker 1: to different NASCAR events.
Speaker 4: It actually ran.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you used to run and now it's the Will's home.
Speaker 2: We're trying to get it running again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you will get anything going. Joe got this
Speaker 1: thing the generator running. Good for jet were rolling, all right,
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on busting with the boys. Will
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be here tonight. We are,
Speaker 1: we are, We're about to go down dark.
Speaker 2: Let's tell the truth. Now, let's tell the truth. We
Speaker 2: wanted to come on the bus. Id okay, cool, I
Speaker 2: wanted you to come on to you.
Speaker 4: That's dodging me. That daddy is home just in case
Speaker 4: you guys.
Speaker 1: Hey, look, first off, let's just let's just hit it
Speaker 1: real quick. All right. I don't know if you see
Speaker 1: a little the TV. There's three keys to success. The
Speaker 1: number one most important thing, and I know you can read,
Speaker 1: but I'll say it for you. It's our podcast, not
Speaker 1: a squad. We're running this.
Speaker 2: Ship down.
Speaker 1: It's important, all right. Number two, don't interrupt the boys.
Speaker 1: You might be thinking this is a good time for
Speaker 1: me to come in. You're gonna get met with a
Speaker 1: quick oops. Sorry, we made a mistake. We interrupted. We're
Speaker 1: gonna move on, all right, Hey, come on, don't start
Speaker 1: and Jesus is already ruining the podcast. And then last thing,
Speaker 1: can't settle for field goals Eagles game. Yeah, you were
Speaker 1: a bit of a hero that day.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: So we got we got two.
Speaker 3: I'll do my best. I understand that this is your podcast.
Speaker 3: I will try not to interrupt.
Speaker 2: It's our cast.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: He just pays for it. You're in charge. I got it.
Speaker 2: We already got shot fire it. Hey, but you you
Speaker 2: had texted You had texted Taylor and say, hey, when's
Speaker 2: we gonna stop dodging me on the bus?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: I didn't. I don't think I texted him. I walked
Speaker 4: in the offensive lind meeting.
Speaker 1: Well, that's happened. Well, it goes back way farther than that.
Speaker 1: If we first started this podcast, you were like you
Speaker 1: kind of gave me like the all right, so whenever
Speaker 1: you want Dad on the bus, let me know. Because
Speaker 1: every time he comes to the old line room, he walked,
Speaker 1: he opens the door, and I never looked behind me
Speaker 1: because I always assume it's him, and he yeah, he's
Speaker 1: always got three three in the trigger, three in the chamber.
Speaker 1: Baby baby walks up, goes up right behind me, slaps
Speaker 1: the ship out of my back every time he goes
Speaker 1: Daddy's home, boys, what are we doing? And I'm just
Speaker 1: what are we doing? And what are we going over?
Speaker 3: But it's I mean, it's a decent idea. I mean,
Speaker 3: summer ratings dip. You just bring Daddy on and then
Speaker 3: let's see if we can get early July bomb.
Speaker 2: But the main thing is you you have you had
Speaker 2: my number, You've always had my number I have And
Speaker 2: I know you wanted to speak to Taylor, but Taylor
Speaker 2: told me, and I'm like, my god, that's a nice
Speaker 2: little fire, Like when's we're gonna stop dugging me? And
Speaker 2: but I'm like, you know, the boy, he's got my number.
Speaker 2: We can, we can know, we can make it happen.
Speaker 4: Which we go to camp July twenty fifth, and you know,
Speaker 4: obviously a lot of things. Three of us are just
Speaker 4: the two of us right now, it's just gonna be
Speaker 4: the us right now, it's just the two of them.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not gonna lie when he said we got
Speaker 2: camp Jolly twenty fifth already, like gonna he's just gonna
Speaker 2: take a shot at me right now's.
Speaker 1: Gonna open the door. And John Robinson right there with
Speaker 1: like your letter getting invited. Oh man, So what's going
Speaker 1: on with that? You like Riley Bullert better?
Speaker 4: No, it's not that we like we do not have
Speaker 4: to do this.
Speaker 2: We're not going through you.
Speaker 1: No, no, we're not. Do you want to listen?
Speaker 3: If everybody wants to know the answer, it's pro football.
Speaker 3: A lot of those things happen, and that's the guy.
Speaker 2: It's the business, guys.
Speaker 1: It's part of the gig.
Speaker 2: Guys. Yeah, I get it. Will he's not in the
Speaker 2: room anymore. Like it's pro football. It's the way it goes.
Speaker 1: I still say it because you're consistent. You're consistent. You're
Speaker 1: going from good to great this year.
Speaker 4: I can tell we're doing our best.
Speaker 1: We're doing our absolutely.
Speaker 2: Did you think about your funny subject matter the way
Speaker 2: he wanted to be treated?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So like you're my boss, and so I got
Speaker 1: there's a there's a fine line, right, we'll right what
Speaker 1: I can toe and I can't toe. So I gotta know, like,
Speaker 1: do you want special treatment while you're on here? Do
Speaker 1: you want to be treated like everybody else?
Speaker 3: I think you can ask me whatever you want to
Speaker 3: ask me, and I have an opportunity to answer it
Speaker 3: however I want.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, he's solid. Well, all right, tell me about
Speaker 1: the first time you masturbated?
Speaker 4: How was that? You know that you you we've been
Speaker 4: We've been through this. It wasn't that great.
Speaker 3: We've been through There are conversations that are going into
Speaker 3: the old line row and you will you can't answer.
Speaker 4: You can't ask a question that you already.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the first time you lost your virginity?
Speaker 4: What was already know that?
Speaker 1: I don't know that.
Speaker 4: I don't know. When everybody has to rank one to ten,
Speaker 4: it's like some guys are like a three.
Speaker 1: First off, Hey, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know you. I don't know the virginity story. That's
Speaker 2: the old line gig when you're in our room. It's
Speaker 2: just let me just take.
Speaker 4: It was with my wife, our wedding night. It was
Speaker 4: a very special occasion. It was amazing. It was amazing
Speaker 4: special the last five minutes of my life.
Speaker 1: Five minutes. That's a record setting for your first time. Oh,
Speaker 1: we'll just take a driver of the list you got
Speaker 1: to follow up?
Speaker 3: Or no?
Speaker 2: What is now? I know you basically shoved down both
Speaker 2: the funny fun questions. What we got up there? So, uh,
Speaker 2: let's start from the beginning. Ohio state. You grew up.
Speaker 2: You grew up in Ohio?
Speaker 4: Right, I did?
Speaker 2: What made you go to Ohio? Stay?
Speaker 1: Were you like?
Speaker 4: I was committed. I was going to go to Michigan
Speaker 4: and what yep?
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.
Speaker 3: We got what you would call it Michigan lean up
Speaker 3: until the time I took my visit and then.
Speaker 4: It didn't go well.
Speaker 3: It was one of those bad this is back in wheneveryboy,
Speaker 3: he took visits like you didn't commit until you took
Speaker 3: a visit after the senior year, and that you know.
Speaker 4: That's how it was.
Speaker 3: And so went to Notre Dame. I loved it, went,
Speaker 3: but it really wasn't in play. Michigan was still the lean.
Speaker 3: And then I took my visit in December. Next week
Speaker 3: went to Ohio State and realized that Ohio State was
Speaker 3: was the place for me. But I really just because
Speaker 3: my first I went I went to a football camp.
Speaker 3: I went to the Michigan football camp with my buddies
Speaker 3: in high school. Just went up there, stayed in the dorms,
Speaker 3: was out running around on the field and they asked,
Speaker 3: this is when Gary Muller was still the coach. When
Speaker 3: they said, Coach Mouller want to see him thinking we
Speaker 3: didn't get in trouble already.
Speaker 4: We only been here like six hours.
Speaker 3: And so then he offered me a scholarship just in
Speaker 3: his office. I had no idea, like I wasn't being
Speaker 3: really recruited or anything. And then he offered me a scholarship,
Speaker 3: and then played my next year and went up there
Speaker 3: on saturdays for football games, and just it just wasn't right. Fit,
Speaker 3: just wasn't right fit.
Speaker 1: Was there something specific that happened during your visit, like
Speaker 1: the guys you just didn't mess with the dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy that they gave me, it didn't go well.
Speaker 3: He said he got sick. But then you know Lloyd
Speaker 3: I will tell you this. Lloyd Carr's son, Jason salvaged
Speaker 3: the visit was he was phenomenal to this day.
Speaker 4: I remember the visit because of that.
Speaker 3: He wasn't my host, but he's like, dude, I know
Speaker 3: you're not coming here, but I'll make this night fun.
Speaker 2: And it was because of your visit.
Speaker 3: When you change your mind, yeah wow, because I think
Speaker 3: to me, the thing I told Tyler when he went
Speaker 3: to Boston was looking at colleges or even when now
Speaker 3: Carter's looking isn't don't pick the school because you have
Speaker 3: a relationship with the coach.
Speaker 4: You think the coach is cool. You got to pick
Speaker 4: a school because of the players in the school.
Speaker 3: Like, the players don't leave and the school never changes,
Speaker 3: But the coaches, you'a offer him two hundred thousand dollars more,
Speaker 3: they're leaving. I don't care what they say. In recruiting,
Speaker 3: I told every kid I recruited the same way. If
Speaker 3: something else comes along, that's better for me my family
Speaker 3: than Ohio State, I'm gonna go. But Ohio State's still
Speaker 3: the best place for you. And that's what happened. I
Speaker 3: when I'm going to the Texas, Yeah, and had to
Speaker 3: call and I went I left before recruiting. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna wait till February third to leave and
Speaker 3: go to the Texans. I'm gonna leave in January when
Speaker 3: you know the job's ready. And I told every kid
Speaker 3: that I was recruiting, this is the best place for
Speaker 3: me and Jen and Carter and Tyler, and Ohio State's
Speaker 3: the best place for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had you had a good You had a
Speaker 2: good like recruiting store. I think you told me who
Speaker 2: was it? Some linebacker that wanted to bring you into
Speaker 2: a hot stain. You like left a baseball game to
Speaker 2: like go see him at Ohio State and you're like, listen,
Speaker 2: May like I'm not.
Speaker 3: He ended up in Georgia, and you know it was
Speaker 3: just you're at the beck and call of some of
Speaker 3: these guys and they're just and he's like, I thought
Speaker 3: this would be a lot better. I was like, listen, man,
Speaker 3: I left the baseball game to come like see you, Like,
Speaker 3: let's let's do the stadium tour where you want to go?
Speaker 4: Like, but my kid over here playing baseball down the street.
Speaker 2: And you always kept a real with the recruits that
Speaker 2: came in. That's saying you were gonna not not that
Speaker 2: you're gonna leave, but you're like listen, like it's the business.
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever publicized to another player like hey,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that won't be here.
Speaker 3: No, but I always told him like just because you
Speaker 3: may like me or you may like your position, coach like,
Speaker 3: that's great, but if you don't get in and see
Speaker 3: the players and hang out with the players, those are
Speaker 3: the guys that you I mean, you're best are the
Speaker 3: ones My best friends are the ones I played college
Speaker 3: football with, and some of them from pro football, but
Speaker 3: obviously the ones that you you go to college and
Speaker 3: you kind of figure out who you are. Like the
Speaker 3: high school is tough, it's you know, a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of kids. My kids moved around, they're in
Speaker 3: different high schools. But you get to college you kind
Speaker 3: of figure out, like who you hang out with, who
Speaker 3: your guys like, what they like, and that's kind of
Speaker 3: where you figure out, you know, who you're gonna hang
Speaker 3: out with and be friends with.
Speaker 2: I got you and fast forwarding after college, you got you.
Speaker 2: You were drafting the third round right yep, to the
Speaker 2: Patriot to uh steel Steelers. Your transition from like, well
Speaker 2: what happened at the Steelers that made you a longtime
Speaker 2: guy with the Patriots.
Speaker 3: So I think what happened was they tried to play
Speaker 3: me at D line. I tried to play d ND
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. So literally my first year, I think I
Speaker 3: played six positions. I played like three technique five technique
Speaker 3: outside backer, and I mean that was all over them,
Speaker 3: just because you were kind of tweeting because I was
Speaker 3: real measurable, correct, but I but I salvaged on some
Speaker 3: role on third down in special teams. Then I was
Speaker 3: in a car accident and I lost like twenty pounds,
Speaker 3: and so they were like, well, we think you'd probably
Speaker 3: be a better outside linebacker. So I ended up learning
Speaker 3: how to play that position. Took a little longer, took
Speaker 3: probably two years until I was ready to start. By
Speaker 3: that time, Joey Porter was starting and I was playing,
Speaker 3: but I was rotating. It was like play a series
Speaker 3: each half. So my contract came up and Belichick offered
Speaker 3: me less than what I got as a rookie signing bonus.
Speaker 3: It was just an opportunity deal, and Cower was like,
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I can give you that money,
Speaker 3: but I can't give you the same opportunity. So then
Speaker 3: I took the opportunity and.
Speaker 2: You're with the Patriots.
Speaker 4: How long eight years?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 2: Was that your favorite? That was probably your favorite?
Speaker 3: Stant Well, I mean obviously, I mean it's where we
Speaker 3: had the most success as a team individually.
Speaker 4: You know, it was good. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3: My first what eight years of four years of high
Speaker 3: school and four years of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: I was no longer than two hours away from my house.
Speaker 2: Four years saying four years of college, four years of
Speaker 2: college school, yeah, four years of college, excuse me?
Speaker 3: And then four years and then fell I was no
Speaker 3: more than an hour and forty five minutes from Akron, Ohio,
Speaker 3: Columbus and Pittsburgh. So it was kind of like it
Speaker 3: was good for us as a family to get away
Speaker 3: and just it was us. It was us four Carter
Speaker 3: was born when we were up there, and it was
Speaker 3: just good just to be able to get away.
Speaker 4: And not have just friends family being there every single minute.
Speaker 2: And a lot of your buddies came from the Patriots.
Speaker 2: I only say that because I saw you at the
Speaker 2: I saw you in a picture at what was it,
Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby with all the boys and I'm sitting there,
Speaker 2: like I'm sitting there chuckling, like, look at Brave just
Speaker 2: with the boys that like that he played like he's
Speaker 2: a coach now that he's probably there, like, hey, boys,
Speaker 2: remember I whooped your ass this past year? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 3: Probably, I mean a pretty good chance I would I
Speaker 3: would imagine that that went on. But it's unique to
Speaker 3: still be able to I mean, suck Up was a rookie.
Speaker 4: When I was a player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right in Kansas City.
Speaker 3: So it's it's kind of funny to look at him
Speaker 3: and see how he he's grown and he's you know,
Speaker 3: got a wife and kids, and he's still playing. And
Speaker 3: I mean he was a rookie when I was still
Speaker 3: playing in Kansas City and k lou last year, right,
Speaker 3: you know. I think the one thing with the Patriots
Speaker 3: was the first year that I signed there in two
Speaker 3: thousand and one, there was twenty six new players on
Speaker 3: that team, like Bill had completely just flipped the roster
Speaker 3: from two thousand to two thousand.
Speaker 4: And one, and William McGinnis was was a holdover, Teddy.
Speaker 3: Bruski ty law lawyer Marloy and we drafted Seymour that
Speaker 3: year and Tom.
Speaker 4: You know, Brady was a holdover, but you know, he
Speaker 4: really was just a backup quarterback.
Speaker 3: And then Bledsoe got hurt and I think in the
Speaker 3: third week and Tom kind of came in and you know,
Speaker 3: we kind of got on a roll and won.
Speaker 4: I think we won nine games after Thanksgiving. If you
Speaker 4: can imagine that.
Speaker 1: Before Tom played, could you tell he was special?
Speaker 4: Well, I watched him work and I did think that
Speaker 4: he was a dude. He was a leader.
Speaker 3: He was a dude that when we went out in
Speaker 3: training camp and we had a night off or whatever,
Speaker 3: he was right in the middle with the boys and
Speaker 3: you know, having a good time. And I get that
Speaker 3: that's changed over the course of his career and his
Speaker 3: life and you know, his family and as he's gotten older.
Speaker 3: But I think you recognized early on that people would
Speaker 3: play for him, that guys would play hard for him.
Speaker 4: And and we threw a lot, We ran the ball,
Speaker 4: We threw a bunch of screens.
Speaker 3: Troy Brown had like one hundred and five catches for
Speaker 3: seven and a half yard average.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was just we manufactured wins that first year.
Speaker 3: But there were so many new players that the Larry
Speaker 3: Izzo came in and we had so many new guys
Speaker 3: that we didn't have a chance. There was no other
Speaker 3: way than to come together with the holdovers that they had,
Speaker 3: and then all these other new guys that that Billett
Speaker 3: signed in free agency.
Speaker 2: How how did you how did your mindset change? Like
Speaker 2: after you playing with the Patriots for eight years and
Speaker 2: you how long did you play at KC too? How
Speaker 2: much did your like mindset change, like as you became
Speaker 2: more of a veteran in the year after year, like
Speaker 2: those last couple of years in KC. How did they differ?
Speaker 2: How they differ for you from Patriots to Casey? You
Speaker 2: kind of know you're on your back nine and obviously
Speaker 2: you're you're stacking up a lot of years. But how
Speaker 2: much does your psyche and stuff change? And your way
Speaker 2: you're the way you probably go about work doesn't change,
Speaker 2: but you probably have to force yourself to do, you know.
Speaker 4: And I've and I've said this story before with.
Speaker 3: About how I ended up in Kansas City, had a
Speaker 3: year left on my contract and I wanted to finish
Speaker 3: up in New England and it was I'd like a
Speaker 3: new contract or or trade me and Bill opted for
Speaker 3: the trade and he called me and said, hey, we're
Speaker 3: going to move you to Kansas City. And Puoli had
Speaker 3: just taken the general manager's job, and so I said,
Speaker 3: I guess I should probably call Scott.
Speaker 4: And that's about how long the conversation lasted.
Speaker 3: And I called Scott because I had a roster bonus
Speaker 3: to I think the next day, and he needed me
Speaker 3: to fly in and take a physical. And you know,
Speaker 3: Bill and I didn't talk for I guess the next
Speaker 3: two years. And then I started coaching Ohio State and
Speaker 3: I asked him. I called him and I said, what
Speaker 3: do you think about coaching?
Speaker 4: And you know, we talked a little bit, and so
Speaker 4: still obviously close.
Speaker 3: But you know, I think when you get traded and
Speaker 3: haven't been somewhere for eight years, you know there's a
Speaker 3: lot of emotion that that goes on.
Speaker 4: You know, half the family roots for him, half the family.
Speaker 2: Roots there, and it's there's some bitterness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, But then you know, that's why
Speaker 3: I try to have a lot of honesty with with
Speaker 3: players even now just haven't been through that.
Speaker 1: But but I was.
Speaker 4: I was a rookie that really didn't play, that was
Speaker 4: a special teams player. I was a kind of that.
Speaker 3: Third four year purgatory where you're not starting, but you're around.
Speaker 3: I gotta make this roster every single August. I gotta
Speaker 3: I gotta make sure that that I'm on every special
Speaker 3: teams and I'm I know more, I'm a backup at
Speaker 3: more than one position, and I don't know. Jen, We'll see,
Speaker 3: you know, come down to the third preseason game when
Speaker 3: you know we got to play, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: And so I've been that guy. Then I got an
Speaker 3: opportunity to be a free agent. Wasn't a cash free agent.
Speaker 3: It was an opportunity free agent. It wasn't hey take
Speaker 3: the money, take the biggest contract. It was take the
Speaker 3: best opportunity and then work my way into a contract
Speaker 3: where I was a player that was was making good money,
Speaker 3: that needed to perform, that needed to make sure that
Speaker 3: he was earning that contract.
Speaker 4: And then I was a veteran player who.
Speaker 3: Probably and not probably, but who wasn't as good as
Speaker 3: he was when he was in his tenth or eleventh
Speaker 3: year that had to be a leader and try to
Speaker 3: get tom Ba Lee and Derrick Johnson and you know
Speaker 3: some of these guys Jamal Charles Ryan suck up, for example,
Speaker 3: we were a young team in Kansas City, but that
Speaker 3: somebody that had to lead and try to be a
Speaker 3: coach on a field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because being being a safe like being at
Speaker 2: the in here about the being with the Redskins for
Speaker 2: five years and you go and like they don't they don't,
Speaker 2: like you know, a deal doesn't work out, or you
Speaker 2: guys come in, you guys offer some Redskins I want
Speaker 2: to match and you're like wanting to go back. You're like,
Speaker 2: you know, you're on the phone. You're like, yeahda YadA YadA,
Speaker 2: this that the other. And when you go to a
Speaker 2: new team, like that bitterness you were talking about, you're
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, half the family roots for them.
Speaker 2: You kind of you when we played him last year,
Speaker 2: like I'm hell, I was in the I was in
Speaker 2: the Meetia room with you guys.
Speaker 4: Carter had West Carter.
Speaker 3: They played the Saints in two thousand and I guess
Speaker 3: it would have been nine Monday night and Castle and
Speaker 3: Matt and Lauren came over and Jen made dinner on
Speaker 3: a Monday night and Carter came down with a Welker
Speaker 3: jersey engines like take that goddamn jersey off, and he's
Speaker 3: It's like Welker's my boy. And Jen's like, no, we're
Speaker 3: not rooting, like this is a really this is a
Speaker 3: root for the Saints night. Yeah, and Carter's like, no,
Speaker 3: like Welker's my boy, I'm like wearing his jersey. So
Speaker 3: it was, but that's kind of we always half the
Speaker 3: team will root, half the family root for the Warriors,
Speaker 3: and half the other team will root for the Raptors.
Speaker 4: And just so he can have some banter in.
Speaker 2: The house, Yeah, did you know you were always going
Speaker 2: to coach?
Speaker 4: I think I probably did, but it did you know?
Speaker 3: I was so focused on trying to play, and I think,
Speaker 3: like you guys, and when you get done playing, there's
Speaker 3: so much that you want to do in the off season.
Speaker 3: And obviously train, but whether you want to travel or
Speaker 3: hang out or catch up or whatever you want to do,
Speaker 3: go back, in our.
Speaker 4: Case, back to Ohio.
Speaker 3: And I tried not to really think about it, because
Speaker 3: when you start thinking, I think about your next career,
Speaker 3: then you're really not thinking that football. Yeah, And so
Speaker 3: I didn't really want to think about that until I
Speaker 3: probably got to Kansas City. I was like, Okay, we
Speaker 3: probably got to find out what we want to do
Speaker 3: after we get done playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what it started to hit is when
Speaker 2: you're in Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then it kind of all it really happened fast.
Speaker 3: I was doing the Players Association. Yeah, we were in
Speaker 3: the kind of the CBA negotiations, and I was on
Speaker 3: the executive committee. So we would fly to different places
Speaker 3: in the country and have meetings for a week. They
Speaker 3: would always change it up. We'd go to Washington, New York, Minneapolis, Chicago,
Speaker 3: and that would all come in on like Sunday, and
Speaker 3: then you'd be gone till like Thursday. And so I
Speaker 3: knew that as soon as we put pen to paper
Speaker 3: that I was going to retire. Well, on Memorial Day,
Speaker 3: Jim Trussell got fired at Ohio State and they named
Speaker 3: Luke Fickle the interim head coach. Well, Luke was coaching
Speaker 3: linebackers and he was the defensive coordinator. So looke on
Speaker 3: make whatever I don't know, twenty first or whatever it was,
Speaker 3: the Memorial Day fell in that year. Needed a linebacker coach, right,
Speaker 3: and there weren't you know, a lot of guys have
Speaker 3: already had jobs and everything else.
Speaker 4: And so I was like, man, I need a reason
Speaker 4: to retire.
Speaker 3: And he came over and talked to Jen and I
Speaker 3: about you know, just wanted to make sure that she
Speaker 3: was on board with you know what the time.
Speaker 4: You know it's going to be a different schedule and
Speaker 4: everything else, and you guys are tight. Yeah. No, Yeah.
Speaker 4: He was the best man in my wedding. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: was the best man of my wedding.
Speaker 3: And now he's at Cincinnati and he was also my
Speaker 3: host when I went to Ohio State.
Speaker 4: So he did a better job than the guy I yes, O, man,
Speaker 4: I got to.
Speaker 1: Call it Michigans and they messed up a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So when you transition in all that, like
Speaker 1: how Tod Jin handle those hours, because when you're do
Speaker 1: like college coach, that's crazy hours and it's crazy that
Speaker 1: you're putting your job under fire with eighteen to like
Speaker 1: twenty two year olds.
Speaker 3: I don't think that she certainly didn't mind the season hours.
Speaker 3: The hours that kind of catch you off guard are
Speaker 3: the ones in the spring where you're gone. You literally
Speaker 3: get on a plane Sunday and you're gone until Friday
Speaker 3: because it's spring recruiting, and it's Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Florida, Atlanta.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like just going to Akron, right and just
Speaker 3: going there and driving back. It's that was the tough
Speaker 3: part where I realized, like, man, like, the season is
Speaker 3: the season. The schedules identical as a coach when you're
Speaker 3: coaching college or you're.
Speaker 4: Coaching pro.
Speaker 3: Except for the fact that you know, I may check
Speaker 3: in on a couple guys or text them during the
Speaker 3: week at night or something like.
Speaker 4: But in college it's it's twenty five text messages or
Speaker 4: direct messages.
Speaker 2: Two jobs.
Speaker 3: It is you get home and even though you might
Speaker 3: get home at seven, you're sitting there at dinner and
Speaker 3: a kid's direct message in you're a texting nine.
Speaker 4: You're like, right, do I.
Speaker 1: Really want to do?
Speaker 2: How much does it suck? Like stroking like the high
Speaker 2: school kids off?
Speaker 3: Well, it's really become an issue. And I think that
Speaker 3: you look at all the guys and not that everybody
Speaker 3: you know. A lot of five stars make it, and
Speaker 3: a lot of five star ours get drafted in the
Speaker 3: first round and become great players. A lot of five
Speaker 3: stars fade away and and you never hear from them again.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's the reason why our league is
Speaker 3: made up of guys from Michigan, Ohio State Notre Dame,
Speaker 3: Penn State, Brascama and maybe eventually we'll get down in Nebraska.
Speaker 3: And then second in our second podcast, Alabama and Greatest
Speaker 3: come Back.
Speaker 4: All go from everywhere. Proximuly got hurt, you guys, Greatest
Speaker 4: come Back. And so I can't what happens is they developed.
Speaker 3: They everybody develops at different levels. And you know, I
Speaker 3: think that that's it's it's called the recruiting. Like these
Speaker 3: parents nowadays, and they're they're so involved, and these parents
Speaker 3: are taking pictures with with their kids on these recruiting
Speaker 3: visits and jerseys and stuff like that, and I'm thinking
Speaker 3: they have no idea what it's really about to happen
Speaker 3: as soon as they sign.
Speaker 4: Obviously I did. I was a player.
Speaker 3: I went through the recruiting. I got there, and you know,
Speaker 3: they try to beat the ship out of you. And
Speaker 3: and then I did it as a coach, and it's
Speaker 3: called recruiting. And I remember being on a visit at
Speaker 3: Boston College and sitting there and listening to the parents say,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, you should have seen Johnny in the
Speaker 3: championship game.
Speaker 4: He was amazing. And the coaches are like.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, And I'm just rolling my eyes, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: don't worry about Tyler. He's been de recruited since birth.
Speaker 3: Like I've told him, he sucks. You know, you don't
Speaker 3: have to worry about Tyler. He's been de recruited. So
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry.
Speaker 1: He sucked.
Speaker 4: He can barely block and don't worry about it. But
Speaker 4: we call that de recruiting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got to I can definitely see you have
Speaker 1: a hard time with that.
Speaker 3: Well, you have to get it because you know the
Speaker 3: other guys are good, like Clemson, and you get into
Speaker 3: a recruiting battle, it's like the kid's gonna start. He's
Speaker 3: gonna have a single digit, you know, defensive lineman, it's
Speaker 3: a single digit.
Speaker 4: He's gonna start.
Speaker 3: It's gonna have tense that you know, you just promise
Speaker 3: him in the world just because you know the next
Speaker 3: guy is doing the same thing, and you just be
Speaker 3: honest with him, like you might play.
Speaker 4: We're hoping that you play. And I don't know. I
Speaker 4: didn't do it long enough.
Speaker 3: I only I only did it for three years, and
Speaker 3: you know, got some good players and got some guys
Speaker 3: in one other places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you raised those rings pretty fast, like you went
Speaker 1: NFL college boom right to the pros and now you're here.
Speaker 4: Well, I think you tried to do the best job
Speaker 4: at the job that you have.
Speaker 3: And then, you know, I've never you know, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of guys that work the phones in college, like
Speaker 3: they're calling right now. Hey, you know I heard so
Speaker 3: and so may get a job if he moves on. Man,
Speaker 3: I'd love to be your defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: Like I would never call you. I mean, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of guys who worked the phone. I've never called you.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 4: I've never called anybody.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien got the job with the Texans and he
Speaker 3: called me after the bowl game at Ohio State. You know,
Speaker 3: we had a little break after the Orange Bowl, and
Speaker 3: he said, you know, I'm gonna take this job and
Speaker 3: would like you to be the linebacker coach. And Jenn
Speaker 3: and I talked about it and decided that, you know,
Speaker 3: going back to the NFL where we spent fourteen years
Speaker 3: would be the best thing. And then was the linebacker coach.
Speaker 3: And then you know, Chip Kelly called and asked the interview.
Speaker 3: As DC went out there interview, decided not to take it,
Speaker 3: stayed with Houston.
Speaker 2: Is that was that organ?
Speaker 4: No, that was at San Fran.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I was.
Speaker 3: At San fram He called me. I was on a
Speaker 3: chairlift in Utah and I got the boys on either
Speaker 3: side of me, and Jen's back at the lodge and hello,
Speaker 3: and he's like, hey, I want you to I said,
Speaker 3: I don't have I don't have a single notebook. I
Speaker 3: got snowpants. As long as you don't care if I
Speaker 3: show up in snowpants.
Speaker 4: And a T shirt.
Speaker 3: He's like, just let's talk ball. So it was really
Speaker 3: the best way to do an interview. Everybody comes in
Speaker 3: with a presentation, a booklet and a book and a
Speaker 3: package and a PowerPoint.
Speaker 4: I rolled in there with a couple of bar napkins,
Speaker 4: a couple of notes.
Speaker 1: On a barn a bar napkin. Swear to God, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Because I said, listen, I owe these kids at least
Speaker 3: the rest of this trip. It was like a to
Speaker 3: maybe two and a half day ski trip. And I said,
Speaker 3: I this is our first day, Like, I cannot come
Speaker 3: out there until these guys get on a plane back
Speaker 3: to Houston and then I'll fly to San Fran. And
Speaker 3: so they flew back after the trip, which was like
Speaker 3: two days. It was like Saturday, Sunday or whatever it was,
Speaker 3: and then I went out to San Franz. Didn't end
Speaker 3: up taking it. But my point is you just do
Speaker 3: the best job and the job that you have, and
Speaker 3: then usually people.
Speaker 4: Come find you.
Speaker 2: You do have a really good agent.
Speaker 4: Though we have the same agent, we have the same.
Speaker 1: Unfortunate you guys could both be CIA guys. Well, you
Speaker 1: for sure could be a CIA guy. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what a creative artist agency. It's the agency I'm
Speaker 1: with John Robinson.
Speaker 4: It's one of those Uber Uber agencies.
Speaker 1: We're just the best man.
Speaker 4: Who do you call? Who's in charge?
Speaker 1: Tom Condon? Baby, that's my guy?
Speaker 4: Guy is he? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He's the man. Pat's like my day to day.
Speaker 3: Pat's the guy that he has to get tough like
Speaker 3: under and then here do you go when Pat's not available?
Speaker 4: Who you call?
Speaker 1: I call Candice Rose? Yeh, that's what I called that.
Speaker 2: It Jathan Jonathan Hurst, no question.
Speaker 4: I never talked to him in my life. Really.
Speaker 2: That's what's.
Speaker 1: When you when when you started to get older and
Speaker 1: you started to realize like man, like I I I
Speaker 1: don't got it, Like I used to kid like what
Speaker 1: was that transition that was because I think to myself,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sitting here, You're five, going into your six,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, like, technically, I'm you know, over the
Speaker 1: hill or on top of it, I guess. And then
Speaker 1: that decline starts, like for most people, right like ten,
Speaker 1: people start to show a little bit or even I.
Speaker 4: Mean, I think genetics has a lot to do with it,
Speaker 4: training and just a lot of luck. But honestly, it
Speaker 4: was Jen.
Speaker 3: We went out to San We went out to San
Speaker 3: Diego and I was with the Chiefs and they had
Speaker 3: Ryan Matthews. He was a rookie running back and I
Speaker 3: probably had eight missed tackles. I mean, I couldn't catch him.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tackle him when I could catch him. And
Speaker 3: I came back and I landed and I got home
Speaker 3: and it was late, and she was like, how much.
Speaker 4: Longer do you think you can do this?
Speaker 1: Jesus, that's tough.
Speaker 2: And I said, Jen, just being a realist, what year.
Speaker 1: Was this for you?
Speaker 3: Probably twenty ten? I think it was probably twenty ten.
Speaker 3: It was the year I retired. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't I go Was it that bad? She said,
Speaker 3: you just didn't look like you were. You looked when
Speaker 3: you were like twenty eight.
Speaker 4: I said, well, neither do you. But I'm not telling
Speaker 4: you to question.
Speaker 1: Oh man, she's never wants a porter and bustle with
Speaker 1: the boys too.
Speaker 4: She's a very bad But that was I mean, she
Speaker 4: was just like, how much longer? And I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't. She's like, I don't. You just don't look
Speaker 4: the same, and she was, you know, but she's seen
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: And now that I'm coaching, I mean she's seen probably
Speaker 3: four hundred NFL games, I mean whatever, eighteen years in
Speaker 3: the NFL, nineteen years in the NFL, twenty games a year,
Speaker 3: whatever it is.
Speaker 4: And she's seen plenty of games.
Speaker 1: It's got to be a kick in the dick. Though
Speaker 1: you're just like, well, like you, you have to know.
Speaker 3: I think that whole line to find somebody that that
Speaker 3: is honest with you, and that's a great I mean,
Speaker 3: she's she's an amazing wife. I think that it's not
Speaker 3: somebody that sits there and strokes you off and like,
Speaker 3: oh you're so good, you do everything perfect, and I
Speaker 3: mean it's honest. I mean there's when it's when it's bad.
Speaker 3: It's bad, and it's you know, hey, you know I
Speaker 3: come home now and she's like what what what?
Speaker 4: What was lawand doing? I said, I don't know, Jen,
Speaker 4: why don't you ask him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can definitely safe. There'll there'll be times like
Speaker 1: it's a week I have a weekly text for you
Speaker 1: during during the season. It's like it's like, hey, Monday
Speaker 1: and Monday will around, but hey, you know, decent job
Speaker 1: on this, work on that, and then a not could
Speaker 1: be better this week. Like it's always like you're constantly
Speaker 1: like running the train, man, you text everybody? That is
Speaker 1: it just between us?
Speaker 4: It's just between us?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 2: Never texted besides he said hey, besides he was like, hey,
Speaker 2: great job on the skit that.
Speaker 3: We're still living the skit man the time that was
Speaker 3: that was one of the best. If we wanted to
Speaker 3: sign you that.
Speaker 4: Text, I did.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I've never had that group chat, that group chat. Did
Speaker 1: you think that was coming? So for everybody that's listening, like,
Speaker 1: Braves texted us a picture of his son and his
Speaker 1: buddy at a concert while it was during c m
Speaker 1: A fest and his buddy was wearing it for the boys.
Speaker 4: And then his buddy and his buddy Center.
Speaker 1: And then me and Will are together. We're at the
Speaker 1: house hanging out, and we just start killing like not
Speaker 1: really me, it was really Will started like photo shopping
Speaker 1: suck Ups your face on suck Up's body, the three
Speaker 1: of us laughing.
Speaker 4: Remember when I immediately regret including Will.
Speaker 2: I was like, he's for the boys, and and you
Speaker 2: sent the picture of you pointing at Riley Bulow. You're like,
Speaker 2: is he really for the boys? And then I propped
Speaker 2: the picture of Rabel's head on suck Up's body when
Speaker 2: we're walking to the plane.
Speaker 1: You also, yeah, you also the picture of you and
Speaker 1: him during the Miami Yeah, I remember remember laughing together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, remember these days. That's so, he said.
Speaker 1: I immediately regret texting you guys, what is that is
Speaker 1: so funny that you're able to zoom in on that Pepe?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh dude, that was that is funny.
Speaker 4: But how's this thing been going? I mean, how's the reviews?
Speaker 4: I mean I have I apologized, I haven't listened to
Speaker 4: one episode. Well that Apple is it on Apple or
Speaker 4: it's on everything? It is? It's on Spotify yep.
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, you pop it on the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna get in that RV tomorrow and uh,
Speaker 4: I will listen to Arthur's amazing dude.
Speaker 2: Arthur's a solid one that so I caught that.
Speaker 4: So gentlemen, to listen to that Live and Die in
Speaker 4: l A if you heard that podcast.
Speaker 3: No, right, So this is like this crime so a
Speaker 3: big pots well she has been lately, but it's like
Speaker 3: a true crime thing and this girl get just check
Speaker 3: it out on Spotify.
Speaker 1: We'll check it out.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's like the number two. It's fifteen
Speaker 3: million people. It's probably fifteen million more than listen to
Speaker 3: your podcast.
Speaker 1: Fourteen point nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pull it up to Live and Die. I don't
Speaker 4: need to see busting with the boys. Do I get
Speaker 4: a T shirt or what?
Speaker 1: We'll get your T shirt? Yeah, you get a T shirt.
Speaker 1: We'll get your T shirt? Right, got you that.
Speaker 4: Staying on it like yours?
Speaker 1: This was at that's a sweat mark a sweat man.
Speaker 1: I'm a sweater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the red was happening there, it is, right, check
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 1: What's up on Live and Die? Which one did you
Speaker 1: say if it was about murder mystery or what?
Speaker 2: Yees?
Speaker 3: So it's it's like a true crime deal and the
Speaker 3: guy takes you through. He's like a writer for the
Speaker 3: Rolling Stone magazine and he does this like interview. He
Speaker 3: works with this like private investigator because the l a p.
Speaker 3: D just basically they just closed the case and they're like, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 3: we can't figure out who did it? Oh No, This
Speaker 3: dude like goes on this like man hunt.
Speaker 2: Yeah did Jens? A podcaster shout out Jen for being
Speaker 2: a fan of Busting with the Boys.
Speaker 4: Do you know what? I don't think fantas here's something.
Speaker 2: You said.
Speaker 4: She listened to make you feel good and make you
Speaker 4: guys feel good.
Speaker 1: Do you do you ever watch like that?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Did you see the Ted Bundy film on Netflix?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 1: That ship was wild?
Speaker 4: It was whack I do uh ye?
Speaker 2: Which the tapes of the movie.
Speaker 1: I even listened to all the tapes one but the
Speaker 1: video of uh Zach Effron playing him.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: He's like to the very end is like, I didn't
Speaker 1: do it. I didn't do it. And at the end
Speaker 1: of the at the end of it, writes hacksaw on
Speaker 1: like that the smoked up stuff or whatever. The steam
Speaker 1: that's crazy. They say that you walk by like ten
Speaker 1: serial killers in your life, like you just by just
Speaker 1: walking by people any think about that Verbes, but just
Speaker 1: walking by serial What the hell is that? Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Bust with the boys.
Speaker 4: I wondered, like this.
Speaker 3: Whole thing with like the feanyl and stuff going around
Speaker 3: last year. It was like two weeks ago or whatever,
Speaker 3: like we're thirty people odd or something.
Speaker 1: So they put the dust in's in like cocaine.
Speaker 4: Right, you've been in Nashville where Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in Nashville.
Speaker 4: Oh we sent that out on TeamWorks.
Speaker 1: Did you send it TeamWorks?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we sent it out in TeamWorks.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, So you gotta you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta defend yourself?
Speaker 3: What what?
Speaker 4: What am I?
Speaker 1: He's my boss, you know. I honestly I tried. I
Speaker 1: try to throw you off a little bit. I try
Speaker 1: to throw you off a little bit. It's forever. Number
Speaker 1: should everybody I should.
Speaker 2: Have interrupting, you're interrupting.
Speaker 1: Will come on, dude, he's for the fences right now.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I was gonna talking about.
Speaker 1: You didn't get out of here. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. Yeah, there's like people that's like
Speaker 1: a big thing right now. People they put like that's
Speaker 1: like a powder that they put in like cocaine and stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they said, you like, cut it up. But
Speaker 4: what is it gonna do? Is it because it is
Speaker 4: like a better high or is it just gonna kill people? No?
Speaker 1: It legit is like that's like a terrorist thing. Like
Speaker 1: it kills people.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It actually has nothing to do because they said they
Speaker 3: were putting it in a weed and they're putting it
Speaker 3: in the meth and cocaine and that's wild.
Speaker 1: It just kills people like it Like yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: mean when you snort something your brain, that cavity goes
Speaker 1: up to your brain. That's what makes you high. When
Speaker 1: fetanol hits it like it must shut something down the brain.
Speaker 1: I don't know the science.
Speaker 3: Literally, I have no idea other than Jen sent me
Speaker 3: something and I went down to Chick and I was like, dude,
Speaker 3: there's like thirty people that have died in a week
Speaker 3: in Nashville and they think it's because of the fetanyl.
Speaker 3: They've odd, yeah, damn right there, we're gonna get tight
Speaker 3: Nashville fetanyl it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but you can cut it with baking stutter
Speaker 1: right or baby wanted to kill somebody to make it cheaper, right,
Speaker 1: That's that's what Michael Jackson died of fintan all over
Speaker 1: these like those deaths in Nashville.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea. I didn't you know it.
Speaker 4: Living it will big.
Speaker 2: Just live in the bus. We gotta band and come
Speaker 2: back to the bus. That's hey, Taylor, come over and
Speaker 2: do a podcast.
Speaker 1: I can't today.
Speaker 4: The wind does this run? When does this go?
Speaker 2: Years ago? We'll have Roman next week? Ye well, Roman,
Speaker 2: you'll see next week and then you'll be on after that.
Speaker 1: Great we I gotta be honest with you. I'm very impressed.
Speaker 1: How you how you answer? I tried. I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: I gotta rattle you from the get go, ask you
Speaker 1: the jerk off questions and there losing your and you
Speaker 1: handled it.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you keep it.
Speaker 1: You're built for it, the media stuff. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: you can't guys. Every day you guys, but we're not
Speaker 1: those guys.
Speaker 3: I talked to these guys from the day that training
Speaker 3: camp starts until the season, every single day. I mean
Speaker 3: I talked to them more than I talked to my
Speaker 3: wife and kids.
Speaker 1: Think about that, who's your least favorite one.
Speaker 3: Well, the easy answer would be to Hirsky, Yeah, well
Speaker 3: I love Yeah, he did tell me I was I
Speaker 3: did his podcast the Yeah, who cares, I no question.
Speaker 3: But he'll immediately when this airs, I'll get a text
Speaker 3: It'll be like, oh you said my name wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He texted me like yesterday like when a you' you
Speaker 1: gonna come on my podcast? I was like fifth of never, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know what I do?
Speaker 4: They all I have to respect. They all have a
Speaker 4: job to do.
Speaker 3: They do, And I think that the biggest thing that
Speaker 3: I'll say about our media is that when I did
Speaker 3: that polar plunge for Special Olympics in February or March
Speaker 3: whatever it was down at the stadium, jumped.
Speaker 4: In this big ass tub of ice water, do you backflip?
Speaker 4: I did that, and so.
Speaker 3: It caught on and I was like somebody was joking
Speaker 3: on Twitter, and I was like, yeah, if Kersky come
Speaker 3: down there and I'll drown him in the water, see
Speaker 3: if he can how long he can hold his breath.
Speaker 3: And then next thing I know, we got like we
Speaker 3: got like ten or twelve people from the media all
Speaker 3: joined up and raised money to help They all jump
Speaker 3: with me or after me with the kind of the
Speaker 3: raised money for special Olympics.
Speaker 4: So we do have great These guys are on fire.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's Zach in the back. Dude, he handles of stuff.
Speaker 2: I love how you got exactly what you wear a practice,
Speaker 2: that's a squad meeting.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what you wear every single day. Got your vest.
Speaker 1: Look at the boy two inches away from just literally
Speaker 1: being a coma.
Speaker 3: For that was So I jumped with the two Olympians
Speaker 3: and my legs are like frozen and then they're like
Speaker 3: backflip and I'm like, I can't feel my legs.
Speaker 4: I just are jumped in and I climbed out.
Speaker 3: They have like the paramedic. You see the dude the
Speaker 3: ParaMed that's a paramedic in case somebody like goes in.
Speaker 1: The red that's already in the water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Zach. That's Zach.
Speaker 1: Who go back, go back, look at you kind of
Speaker 1: feeling yourself.
Speaker 2: Go back, pause it. There's Zach right there on the left,
Speaker 2: a little kid.
Speaker 1: Great job coach of Abel.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, so how did this idea? German eight?
Speaker 1: Last year when we were here, it was literally I
Speaker 1: think the first conversation was we should start a pod
Speaker 1: ass and the next conversation was, you know you do'll
Speaker 1: be cool. It's like a Hunger Games thing with the team,
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Literally, it was like Taylor was talking about, didn't do it.
Speaker 4: We didn't do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't do it.
Speaker 4: Hey, whoop, we didn't do that this year.
Speaker 2: Hey yeah, I know you should have. That was actually
Speaker 2: that was a fun little gig it kind of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Taylor was telling you about the lion King deal and
Speaker 2: you're like shutting it down. And then that's when we're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we need to wait, that might be a thing.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of ideas that I want to
Speaker 1: run by. Actually, we'll get the podcast.
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 1: I have a question about a different thing that that
Speaker 1: you might be interested in. Pred's Preds Titans at the
Speaker 1: Sound Stadium slope a softball game. Beautiful talking about tigs.
Speaker 2: Love on. That's the first thing to say, kegs.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we'll have kegs in the side. It's like
Speaker 1: a fun thing. Bags for it. You'll be into that.
Speaker 1: You joined that idea, All right, I'm running that by Butch.
Speaker 4: We're getting that going could be great money.
Speaker 1: What's that I'll play for the Titan. You that's what
Speaker 1: you can up. Yeah, you can definitely op. That'd be awesome.
Speaker 1: You could be the the.
Speaker 2: Slow yeah he goes, He goes, We'll let you, We'll
Speaker 2: let you, will go.
Speaker 4: He said the same thing. Taylor said, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty awesome for you.
Speaker 2: No, but we we would do that, We would like
Speaker 2: you know, you know how it is when you're in
Speaker 2: the song with everybody and just kind of all the
Speaker 2: locker room stuff that goes on. And then guys were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you should do a podcast.
Speaker 4: Oh other guys said that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you haven't listened to one though, So yeah,
Speaker 2: you haven't listened to one and you haven't you know,
Speaker 2: you don't really come in the locker room.
Speaker 4: Nope, you said yes for the players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you sit in the cafeter you know,
Speaker 2: all the conversations going on.
Speaker 4: You have you seen a new cafter it's almost finished.
Speaker 4: It looks amazing.
Speaker 1: Is it awesome? It looks what's the deal with the
Speaker 1: food that's gonna be in though? Because it can look great,
Speaker 1: we'll bring in we'll talk about later. Twenty fifth yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty July. Hey, yeah, there is some people here. We
Speaker 1: don't want to know about.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll be texting Jim, Hey, can I get a
Speaker 2: pass for the practice?
Speaker 1: Would you let will come with the boys to do
Speaker 1: a plot on the You can put them on the
Speaker 1: fan friends of family list. You can do that, Dude.
Speaker 1: Will defend yourself.
Speaker 2: Dude, what comeback is there to have?
Speaker 1: Have you seen Monty Python The Holy Grail? No, okay,
Speaker 1: that's the worst thing you've done so far. But there's
Speaker 1: a scene where the guy gets his limbs cut off
Speaker 1: and he's still trying to fight, and that's you right now.
Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Everybody's seen that movie. You have
Speaker 1: you seen Animal House?
Speaker 4: Monty's are a y right there?
Speaker 1: You go look at dude, Zach is so on top
Speaker 1: of it. They have like these guys. These guys are
Speaker 1: riding horses, but they're just like clicking like coconuts together.
Speaker 4: It's like a naked gun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well you've probably not seen naked gun either. Huh.
Speaker 1: It's like airplane. I know, well, it's a we're I'm like.
Speaker 4: That podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm finowing everybody is that you've seen Monty Python The
Speaker 3: Holy Grail or Naked Gun or airplane?
Speaker 1: These are the guys see the guy behind him. So
Speaker 1: this guy's pretending to ride a horse and the guy
Speaker 1: behind him, so that it sounds great, guys, like a
Speaker 1: great movie. Actually, you've never seen Robin hood men Entice.
Speaker 1: Have you seen that?
Speaker 4: No will we did? We didn't cover this at our
Speaker 4: breakfast last year. That that recruiting meeting we had. I
Speaker 4: was basically recruiting you remember that breakfast.
Speaker 2: That was what hotels?
Speaker 4: That was that Renaissance super eight. We only used that
Speaker 4: one for the for the later later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we put you in the superade.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't a super a Broadway. Now we're at
Speaker 4: the No and you're not the Talks.
Speaker 2: Rabel and we had a nice little breakfast. He took
Speaker 2: me around town really just talking to me about what
Speaker 2: goes on on Broadway.
Speaker 1: See, I don't know if I can handle like a
Speaker 1: drive with you.
Speaker 4: Why dude.
Speaker 2: It was honestly, he tricked me. He fooled me from
Speaker 2: the get go.
Speaker 4: So you oh, yeah, I was anything other than what
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, you know what the problem is is,
Speaker 1: you're really aggressive. We're very You and I are very similar.
Speaker 4: I could see that.
Speaker 1: But the thing is you're my boss.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: Ye Am I your fair.
Speaker 4: Player you've ever coached? Probably yeah, I would say in
Speaker 4: the middle area.
Speaker 1: Probably not for Will, but that that was Will. But
Speaker 1: never talking about me.
Speaker 3: No, every time you break the huddle and I'm like,
Speaker 3: get your ass to quit, walk in the line.
Speaker 1: Hey, but hey, hey, let me get somewhere. The dogs
Speaker 1: go to the pound, my baby, I thought in.
Speaker 2: I hear all about it. He goes, Hey, Will Man,
Speaker 2: you should have saw me today me break down the hunt.
Speaker 1: That's not true.
Speaker 2: That's very true. Hey, I've been all my leaders stuff
Speaker 2: like puppy.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's not true. Actually it's true, I would say,
Speaker 1: And leadership has grown this year.
Speaker 4: It has been more than evident. Love that hey, more
Speaker 4: than evident.
Speaker 1: I know what I was last year, and it was
Speaker 1: me now I'm fixing it.
Speaker 2: It was like transitional.
Speaker 1: It wasn't transitional. It was me thinking I was better
Speaker 1: than I actually was nothing more.
Speaker 4: We talk all the time.
Speaker 3: Wait, and it was funny because he's like, they walked
Speaker 3: by my office and I'm like Taylor, and he's like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not every time you come in here.
Speaker 4: It's not like I'm not.
Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes it is bad, but then I try to say, hey,
Speaker 3: this is when this is what we're doing good. And
Speaker 3: it's been more than evident as far as just being
Speaker 3: positive leader, getting guys going, what.
Speaker 2: Do you think you're hey, I see you.
Speaker 4: Got you up out of hey.
Speaker 1: Uh you already said, oh my dude, But I'm telling
Speaker 1: you we've actually had that conversation. I was like, because
Speaker 1: because of you. Yeah, he was. I told Will when
Speaker 1: we met.
Speaker 2: Not enjoyed not enjoying this anymore. Boys, all my close.
Speaker 1: Friends and the team that I get really like tight
Speaker 1: with either get cut or injured metten Berger camp and
Speaker 1: narrow you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not really sure what to say.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say either.
Speaker 2: So you're you're going from you're one to two as
Speaker 2: a as a head coach. That's what I wanted transition
Speaker 2: to four years. When to take a little minute, what
Speaker 2: do you think your big biggest changes are as a
Speaker 2: head coach from you're one to two.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to just be more consistent, and I don't
Speaker 3: know if I am. I'm trying to be more consistent
Speaker 3: and hopes that it carries over to the players and
Speaker 3: to the meetings and to the field. I mean, one
Speaker 3: week we're here, we're beating the Super Bowl champions, We're
Speaker 3: beating teams that make the playoffs, that are winning playoff games,
Speaker 3: and then you know, the next week or a few
Speaker 3: weeks later, we're not at our best. And so I
Speaker 3: got to figure out how we we get and stay
Speaker 3: at this level weekend and week out. So I think
Speaker 3: that it starts with consistency. I think that, and I
Speaker 3: think we pulled back. We try to change the schedule
Speaker 3: a little bit, no tas. I don't think we needed
Speaker 3: to run as many team reps as as we ran
Speaker 3: last year because we're putting in two new systems, and
Speaker 3: I felt like it was important that we got a
Speaker 3: lot of work at that and I based on what
Speaker 3: I saw, I thought we had a productive spring and
Speaker 3: a healthy spring, which is most important. So we change
Speaker 3: the schedule a little bit, and so you know, we'll
Speaker 3: try to do that.
Speaker 4: In training camp as well.
Speaker 3: I think I think I know where some of the
Speaker 3: road bumps are, where some of the speed bumps are,
Speaker 3: and I can try to avoid them. Not that you
Speaker 3: know distractions are going to happen, it's just how we
Speaker 3: handle them. But I think some of these things that
Speaker 3: come up, I was like, oh yeah, I remember that
Speaker 3: happened last year? Like whatever, like we'll just do this
Speaker 3: instead of what we did last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you say try to be more consistent,
Speaker 2: you hope? Uh what like where where would you find
Speaker 2: kind of those?
Speaker 3: Just continue to continue the message, you know, how do
Speaker 3: I allow guys to make mistakes? I think that's that's
Speaker 3: critical continuing to think about that is how do I
Speaker 3: let guys?
Speaker 4: How do our coaches?
Speaker 3: How do I let guys make mistakes as opposed to
Speaker 3: just immediately correcting on them.
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, what happened? What you see?
Speaker 3: And and a lot of that is time sensitive. It's
Speaker 3: you don't have a whole lot of time. But if
Speaker 3: you can allow the guys to make mistakes and and
Speaker 3: and ask them, hey, if they don't know, then then
Speaker 3: you got to fix it and you got to teach them.
Speaker 3: But if they know, they're like exactly like oy, I
Speaker 3: got the second widest and I got buried down on
Speaker 3: the guard and or a guy buried down on the
Speaker 3: tackle and the end spiked inside. Well, then he knows
Speaker 3: that he just has to fix it and go on.
Speaker 3: We don't have to sit there and teach our protection
Speaker 3: over again.
Speaker 1: I have actually a question that I care about.
Speaker 4: I know that's half an interruption. So when you say questions,
Speaker 4: are your fans.
Speaker 1: So we we put out something that hey, we're having
Speaker 1: you on allnight, so people are gonna tweet us and
Speaker 1: got youa question you'll probably see on Twitter when you
Speaker 1: open it up next. Yeah, you can retweet something if
Speaker 1: you want. Follow us with the buss. When you guys
Speaker 1: go through cuts and after that fourth preseason game, what
Speaker 1: like is it just you and John let's say said,
Speaker 1: or is it the whole coaching staff and like you
Speaker 1: guys set down in those last three four will confidents
Speaker 1: like what do you guys do? Do you guys like
Speaker 1: to say?
Speaker 4: Like that is a great question.
Speaker 3: So there's always input from John Staff, who is the
Speaker 3: scouting department and the coaching staff, and I try to
Speaker 3: do my best to represent them, and ultimately we have meetings,
Speaker 3: you know, and John and I listen to what the
Speaker 3: coaches say as far as it relates to personnel. But
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's John and I
Speaker 3: that have conversations and we are going to make the decisions.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm lucky to be included on that.
Speaker 3: He's got the final say, but I would say that we,
Speaker 3: you know, find a way to come to an agreement.
Speaker 1: So if you have like two guys in the fringe,
Speaker 1: Let's say, like me and Jack Conklin were on the fringe,
Speaker 1: like we're playing the same blah blah blah, like it's
Speaker 1: really similar, and you're like, we got to get rid
Speaker 1: of one of these guys. Would you have like someone
Speaker 1: like Keith come in and be like kind of like
Speaker 1: that that that breaker vote like you and John, You
Speaker 1: and John are split, and Keith say, well, this guy's
Speaker 1: attitude or this guy's work ethic those types.
Speaker 4: Of things, Well, I think that he would. I don't
Speaker 4: think we would necessarily.
Speaker 3: Have someone else, whether it be the position coach or
Speaker 3: a scout break any tie, but what we would try
Speaker 3: to do is look for special teams, value, versatility, Can
Speaker 3: this guy play another position?
Speaker 4: How is this guy in the locker room. I'm just
Speaker 4: trying to look at.
Speaker 3: Examples that you could use to to differ and shaate
Speaker 3: two players that are that are very similar. And I'm
Speaker 3: sure that money would even play a part in it,
Speaker 3: you know, when you got down to you know, the sixth,
Speaker 3: fifth or sixth tiebreaker as far as with the player
Speaker 3: or is. I mean, this's got to be that we're
Speaker 3: talking about the fifty third guy on the roster, because
Speaker 3: if we're having this a heart of conversation for these
Speaker 3: two guys, maybe these two guys are better than someone else.
Speaker 3: And so you, yeah, you're saying, like, if these guys
Speaker 3: are so similar, they're probably better than someone else. And
Speaker 3: you got to keep the best the right fifty three
Speaker 3: and so you have to manufacture and maneuver things around.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 4: Does this guy have practice squad eligibility? Does this guy not?
Speaker 4: You know, I think there's a lot more that goes
Speaker 4: into it.
Speaker 1: I had one more, but I forget already.
Speaker 2: When you're looking at these stats, yep, which category like
Speaker 2: which it's probably tuddy, but which stat stands out like them?
Speaker 2: Not not in total? Like one play? Which stat are
Speaker 2: you looking at here?
Speaker 5: That it was the most memorab of that which my
Speaker 5: rookie year, oh really rookie year playoff game against the Patriots,
Speaker 5: stripsack drew Bledsoe in a two.
Speaker 4: Minute drill at the end of the game. We won
Speaker 4: seven three to go to the issue left right tackle.
Speaker 4: That's Bruce Armstrong, left tackle.
Speaker 1: That's impressive.
Speaker 2: Did that it's solid.
Speaker 1: So stats here for anybody listening and can't see this
Speaker 1: paper tackle seventy four?
Speaker 3: Do we really think that seventy four? Do we think
Speaker 3: that's that's seven four hundred and sixty three? See how
Speaker 3: that line like cuts it off.
Speaker 2: I think it's seventy four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see that. That's definitely that's there's a little
Speaker 1: line there.
Speaker 3: And they count quarterbacks sacks, tackle and I had fifty
Speaker 3: seven of those.
Speaker 1: How'd you fit? Yeah? Well, okay, anyway, anyway, stats quarterback sacks,
Speaker 1: fifty seven interceptions, he had eleven force almost he's talking oops,
Speaker 1: squad meeting for force Sewan, write this down forced fumbles
Speaker 1: nineteen receptions, ten touchdowns ten. Now, one thing I do
Speaker 1: want to talk about when you talk about consistency, I've
Speaker 1: seen how you've shown consistency in our meeting rooms, because
Speaker 1: when we go to squad meetings, I feel like I
Speaker 1: get a question every single time we had a squad meeting.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm three rows back.
Speaker 4: In them right in the middle. It's the middle, you do,
Speaker 4: it's the middle?
Speaker 1: Is but is it though? Because you got Jon still
Speaker 1: get them gets It's uh, it's it's KB. It's KD
Speaker 1: to be like, am I right? KB? And then it's
Speaker 1: it's it's for questions meeting. I'll tell you what you
Speaker 1: do do? Though, is you get Ben Jones two to
Speaker 1: three times a year with staring at staring at flies man.
Speaker 1: You're like, hey Ben, what yeah, what about this? He's like, uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, super smart center guy, Like he assumes like I'm
Speaker 3: not going to ask him yeah, and he's just.
Speaker 1: Just in mouth open swallowing bugs.
Speaker 2: Dude, dude, you get tight man when when Brave calls
Speaker 2: on you, I tell you what there?
Speaker 1: What we did do is from my first year to now,
Speaker 1: probably the most stressed I am during the season is
Speaker 1: walking to the squad meetings. Love it because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like on edge because the thing is because you
Speaker 1: know him. It's like, Hey Taylor, we blah blah blah blah. Question.
Speaker 1: Now that's okay, We'll find a different left tackle if
Speaker 1: you can't answer that one, Like let's let's go conkling.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, that one down, John,
Speaker 1: make sure we write that down. Find me a guy
Speaker 1: like this guy, not that guy who can't answer questions.
Speaker 2: It's solid going into squad beings. I would act. It
Speaker 2: wouldn't be that because I'd be like last so I
Speaker 2: always like would see him just on coffee.
Speaker 4: And plus you were taking notes and you want to
Speaker 4: be a coach and you will be a coach, and.
Speaker 2: You were I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was part of our breakfast. Breakfast, you do
Speaker 4: want to be a coach some day?
Speaker 1: Possibly? Would you? Like, what's what's the end game for
Speaker 1: you like this, Like.
Speaker 3: Oh, buddy, I gotta find a way to try to
Speaker 3: start and enjoin life that's got so much stress. Just
Speaker 3: it's hard to turn off man, like these next couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, Like yeah, I know we're gonna go on
Speaker 3: vacation and watch baseball, but it's just you know, having
Speaker 3: a switch to be like with the family and Carter's friends,
Speaker 3: and it's not just like.
Speaker 2: And not just sitting in a lot like a chair
Speaker 2: just thing.
Speaker 1: Ryan, you go look at that and say, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can do this all day and.
Speaker 4: I enjoy it. I I enjoy it.
Speaker 3: But there's still time where it's like I'll be thinking
Speaker 3: about what we're gonna do and how we're gonna practice,
Speaker 3: or what Cleveland's gonna do, or what Indie's gonna do
Speaker 3: or Jacksonville or Houston.
Speaker 1: Or it's natural. It's natural for you and us to
Speaker 1: be football players.
Speaker 4: Sure, it's all we know it.
Speaker 1: For me, I'll have a two year old daughter and
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's that is harder for me to do
Speaker 1: naturally than to be to go and play football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, But you know, I've seen you whether
Speaker 3: and you know you love your girls and that's the
Speaker 3: most important thing in your life.
Speaker 4: It has to be.
Speaker 3: And I think that I hope that the team and
Speaker 3: that football is is a very close second. I try
Speaker 3: to do the same way, and so fully you have
Speaker 3: to find something like, guys, you're gonna gonna play and
Speaker 3: you're not gonna need to work, but but you're gonna
Speaker 3: need to work financially. You're not gonna have to work,
Speaker 3: but you're gonna need to work for some sanity and
Speaker 3: give you a reason to get up every morning and
Speaker 3: go do something that that you love and that that
Speaker 3: you can compete at or you know that that that
Speaker 3: you don't have to just sit there and your your
Speaker 3: kids are gonna be in school and they're gonna you know,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So this this was something that got me up and
Speaker 3: you know, kept me motivated and kept me, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to compete, whether it being recruiting or game planning
Speaker 3: or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: If you are looking for ways to you know, enjoy
Speaker 1: life a little bit more. You're doing a great job
Speaker 1: with that mustache.
Speaker 4: Thank you. What getting mixed reviews.
Speaker 1: But I think it's grown, don't say, John.
Speaker 4: I think it's growing on her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably like I did in college where she was
Speaker 3: scared to death of me for for two months and
Speaker 3: then she finally came around.
Speaker 1: I proposed the tailing in five weeks. That way, she
Speaker 1: didn have a chance to figure out this guy going mind,
Speaker 1: This guy's a psychopath.
Speaker 4: Guy's nuts.
Speaker 1: I love it, though. What made you do it though?
Speaker 4: Just to change up?
Speaker 1: Or did we Like when we met I had a
Speaker 1: mustache and you didn't, and now you have a mustache?
Speaker 1: Does that like?
Speaker 3: I don't remember that meeting when I thought about the mustache,
Speaker 3: but it was the season was over.
Speaker 4: I'd had the beard since god knows how long, and
Speaker 4: UH wanted to change it up.
Speaker 1: Looks good.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: You got the tickler or what you anything right there?
Speaker 2: Little soul, little something? Though?
Speaker 1: That's a total preference point, is it?
Speaker 2: That's like a little a little soap patch, a little
Speaker 2: bit just added it, you know.
Speaker 4: I just it's too barrel and every shaved down, so
Speaker 4: we'll see. I don't know. God, you guys got the
Speaker 4: ink you got, you got you got ink?
Speaker 1: No no ink, Nope, you got anything none. Would you
Speaker 1: ever get a tattoo?
Speaker 4: No way past that.
Speaker 1: If we win a super Bowl and I'm playing for you,
Speaker 1: still we get my name tattoed in yourybody?
Speaker 4: Your name?
Speaker 1: No, what would you do?
Speaker 4: Uh? I would do something if you wanted to make
Speaker 4: a bed.
Speaker 1: Matt Neely, Yeah, he's taking his head. Matt Neely said
Speaker 1: he would cut off his dick for a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: for a you know, super Bowl, And I I said,
Speaker 1: and I have no problem saying no, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2: Would you cut your dick off for a super Bowl?
Speaker 4: No? Been married twenty years? Yeah? Probably you've got three
Speaker 4: as a player. I guess he'll be married for twenty
Speaker 4: years one day.
Speaker 1: Would you if if if you came home, if you
Speaker 1: came home holding a bag of ice? And Jay was like, oh, honey,
Speaker 1: would you do it? I thought you already got fixedly,
Speaker 1: I had to cut my dick off, honey, We're gonna
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. She'd be like all right, or
Speaker 1: would she be upset?
Speaker 2: She'd probably be on board.
Speaker 4: She would be like, do you want me to do it?
Speaker 4: Do you want to do it now?
Speaker 1: Do you want to do it now?
Speaker 2: I made the ultimate.
Speaker 1: She's like warming up a knife in the fire, getting
Speaker 1: ready to go and uh.
Speaker 4: This one uh is for Vyble.
Speaker 3: It says what characteristics and Marcus, Maria, do you also
Speaker 3: see in Tom Brady.
Speaker 4: Competitiveness? You know?
Speaker 3: I think the one thing we talked about with Marcus
Speaker 3: in the off season was as he goes into this
Speaker 3: second year in this scheme, is to have a much
Speaker 3: better presence. And I think that as you're learning the
Speaker 3: offense for the first time like he has in the
Speaker 3: previous four years, you know, it's hard to have complete
Speaker 3: command of the offense. And I think that he showed
Speaker 3: that in the spring as an understanding and being able
Speaker 3: to tell guys, hey, this.
Speaker 4: Is what you have. If guys look at him with
Speaker 4: that look like I'm not really sure what.
Speaker 3: I have, he's telling them. You know, he's getting the
Speaker 3: alignment's right, He's able to handle the pressures, the protections,
Speaker 3: and so I think that there was a much better
Speaker 3: presence this year going through the spring. So do you
Speaker 3: guys notice like the first couple of weeks, like they
Speaker 3: were like making articles up after people came on here,
Speaker 3: and people.
Speaker 4: Were like quoting everybody.
Speaker 3: Remember I had that conversation about the podcast how we
Speaker 3: can sit here and talk for an hour over long
Speaker 3: I have to sit here and talk and then they
Speaker 3: write an article about it, and they use everything that
Speaker 3: I'm I have said and will say as as quotes,
Speaker 3: like they asked me a question and they've never, you know,
Speaker 3: will never have asked me those questions. But they're going
Speaker 3: to write an article about it because of being here.
Speaker 3: And I and I do think that that's lazy reporting.
Speaker 3: I think that's lazy. You know this this is this
Speaker 3: is something different. But I'd guarantee you this week when
Speaker 3: I'm gone, there will be.
Speaker 4: Articles, no question around it.
Speaker 1: But that's just me and it's done. It's easy that.
Speaker 4: Way, Taylor, Yeah, it would, you will.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think, Yeah, that is a bummer though,
Speaker 1: that you can't just say what you want, like you
Speaker 1: can't just like go about your business and.
Speaker 3: I and I say and I tried to shut it
Speaker 3: down you know. I mean, I stood up in front
Speaker 3: of the team. I was like, this is stupid. You
Speaker 3: guys should be doing.
Speaker 4: Podcasts, just very there's no way very sportive that I said.
Speaker 3: Listen, man, you go to have a blast, but understand
Speaker 3: why they're gonna wrap an hour conversation. You're gonna wrap
Speaker 3: quotation marks around it. Yeah, and they're gonna try to
Speaker 3: fit whatever narrative they want to fit.
Speaker 1: And I was like, the boys, you could I could
Speaker 1: tell while you were doing that meeting you were trying
Speaker 1: to put it around, like how do I not say
Speaker 1: this is Taylor's podcast with will you Know? You were like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: there's things out and then you and I locked eyes,
Speaker 1: like Taylor and will a podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that it's it's something you guys
Speaker 3: have to be able to do stuff outside of football,
Speaker 3: Like you have to have things that you guys enjoy doing,
Speaker 3: having a good time. I like the fact that you
Speaker 3: had teammates on. I like the fact that you had
Speaker 3: Arthur on. I mean, so and hopefully that guys, will
Speaker 3: you Know come on to I mean, I don't know
Speaker 3: what the plans are during the season.
Speaker 4: If you do, you any sponsors, not yet than Taylor. Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh my god, you knew Daddy was coming on tonight.
Speaker 1: Boy, dude, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I was as you can
Speaker 1: go now, thank you. Say what you want about Will
Speaker 1: and who he is as a person and as a player,
Speaker 1: but don't take the dad thing from me.
Speaker 2: I love you get to come on and call himself
Speaker 2: dad like his real dad sitting in the count right now.
Speaker 3: First off, when he signed, after he signed that contract,
Speaker 3: and I wanted to try to take that phone he
Speaker 3: was on, and I tried to shove it right up
Speaker 3: his ass when he's run out to practice, and I
Speaker 3: was like, Daddy, I'm daddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great Taylor look at me and he
Speaker 2: is my dad? You I remember the bag you dude,
Speaker 2: don't admit that he's like he is though, Okay, let's go.
Speaker 1: You do you want to. I'll tell you what I
Speaker 1: remember when I when I signed my contract and I
Speaker 1: was sitting there and I was just getting ready as business,
Speaker 1: business as usual, getting my clear it's I'm getting ready
Speaker 1: to go, and you came over to me and you
Speaker 1: whispered and you said you're my favorite player of all time.
Speaker 1: You better and he said, he said, Hey, don't tell
Speaker 1: any of the guys this, but you're my favorite player
Speaker 1: of all time. And I just your presence being around you.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy you signed this contract, and God willing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a third if I can. And
Speaker 1: I said, and I said, and I said, hey, Rames,
Speaker 1: I got to get out the practice, dude. I got
Speaker 1: work to do. And you said, can you just stay
Speaker 1: a little bit longer?
Speaker 3: I said, you better block your guy every single play,
Speaker 3: and in order to pay you, you better block him
Speaker 3: every single play.
Speaker 4: Drew the whistle.
Speaker 1: And you know what the worst part is? We played
Speaker 1: we practice Tampa and JPP like beat me in a
Speaker 1: play and you send for the team like we're paying
Speaker 1: this guy how much? And I was sitting there like, yo, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm exposed right now, Like is it? I was like,
Speaker 1: is it worth it? And then I I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely worth it.
Speaker 3: I was brought up in a I was brought up
Speaker 3: in a system where where every player, and including the
Speaker 3: best players, were held the most accountable.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 4: That's how I was. I don't know if it's right
Speaker 4: or wrong. But that's all I know.
Speaker 1: I'd rather you say you get on me about stuff
Speaker 1: like that, then I give up a sack and be like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, well he's doing the best he can.
Speaker 3: Or there's some coaches I've had where you'll mess up,
Speaker 3: or I'll player mess up and they'll sit there and
Speaker 3: they'll bitch out.
Speaker 4: The backup like it wasn't the backup's fault. It was
Speaker 4: it was the starter. It was the guy that we're
Speaker 4: paying to do his job. Don't don't yell at the
Speaker 4: backup like that's the why he's a backup.
Speaker 1: Like that's why he's the backup. That's why he's the backup.
Speaker 1: Pro football, fellows, Come on now, figure it out.
Speaker 2: Guys coming close, break this huddle down closer. It's pro football.
Speaker 1: Have you.
Speaker 2: Think getting your close.
Speaker 3: Like it's I don't want to yell like never said
Speaker 3: that when I say bring it in here, closer, I
Speaker 3: don't say it.
Speaker 1: Dude, you're that was like, that was like one of
Speaker 1: my favorite done that you like, like the other have
Speaker 1: you seen the other guys when the guys all right,
Speaker 1: guys bringing it bring it stop? A couple of SIPs
Speaker 1: back and then bring it at a little fart'll bring
Speaker 1: it in that. That's you. But you got to run it, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta do your thing.
Speaker 4: At least you guys are paying attention. Yeah, you make
Speaker 4: fun of it.
Speaker 2: That's what you say when you play.
Speaker 4: You have to play the skid. At least.
Speaker 2: I don't have the footage.
Speaker 1: You don't have it.
Speaker 2: I never recorded it. The other Yeah, we gotta, we do.
Speaker 1: Gotta as a video guy, I for your one.
Speaker 4: It'd be like a party. It'd be like a parting gift.
Speaker 4: We'll send it to you in a fruit basket.
Speaker 1: On Nuly twenty five.
Speaker 2: Hey, remember when you let our team in special teams
Speaker 2: tackles and I deactivated you for a game with six
Speaker 2: and a half.
Speaker 4: What'd you have? Seven?
Speaker 2: No, I was in double digits.
Speaker 4: Brett punts it out of bounds. Everything I could cover.
Speaker 4: Brett's kicks.
Speaker 1: Brett can boom that ball and.
Speaker 4: It's out of bounds. It's like fifty yards out of bounds.
Speaker 2: Just closest guy to the guy that goes out of
Speaker 2: balanced it.
Speaker 4: I got them.
Speaker 1: I got them. Does that count?
Speaker 2: No it doesn't, No, it does, Oh yeah it counts.
Speaker 1: Put me on special teams?
Speaker 2: Did you would never cover a punt.
Speaker 1: I'm faster than you. No, you're not rape, sell me up.
Speaker 1: So your answer, guess what we.
Speaker 4: Can get the Hammammy's good.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm rape. I'm in my prime, brother, I'm ready
Speaker 2: to go. Like you said, like comes a little smul set.
Speaker 4: The boy is staying in shirts because the shirts so tight.
Speaker 2: You know, I had to wear ash medium I I do.
Speaker 3: That's the one thing about punt team. I sit in
Speaker 3: there and I try to tell these guys, I said you,
Speaker 3: it's so hard to be an They're an offensive lineman
Speaker 3: and then they have to turn into a linebacker a
Speaker 3: safety like the skill set. So I'm like, why don't
Speaker 3: we have our offensive line coach like teach the protection
Speaker 3: part of it, like the kick slide and everything else.
Speaker 4: Because that's why that is true.
Speaker 1: That funny that is true that you didn't answer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he thinks faster may well, like I know how far.
Speaker 2: The fact that it doesn't matter about it too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really bothered me. I can't wait to get on
Speaker 2: the field tomorrow and.
Speaker 3: We have I would I will say that if it's
Speaker 3: over fifty yards, I would say, la wan, Okay, Well,
Speaker 3: guess what i'll have I think we'll get you.
Speaker 1: Really, that's interesting. I thought it. I thought it'd be
Speaker 1: the opposite.
Speaker 4: I think you get him in the in the longer.
Speaker 1: You think my top end is higher than his short
Speaker 1: stubby there.
Speaker 2: They Hey, they got a.
Speaker 1: Little barn.
Speaker 2: These try hard.
Speaker 1: Laths been really fast. He stays in the same spot.
Speaker 1: That's you.
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how shown the play against the Eagles, though,
Speaker 4: which one? Yeah, the slice is a slice.
Speaker 2: I should have picked that.
Speaker 4: Off, but I meant it's a teach tape. It's a
Speaker 4: teach tape. Banjo.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My favorite part about that play was Coach Piece's
Speaker 2: reaction in the locker room after the game. Him, just,
Speaker 2: I just love coach ps. I think I think he's
Speaker 2: a stud. Talk about him for a second.
Speaker 4: You see the punt that he Yeah, I was just I.
Speaker 2: Grabbed it off Twitter. I saw that the Tides tweeted
Speaker 2: and I sent it to him. I'm like, yo, look
Speaker 2: at you out there moving around.
Speaker 4: I mean it looked like he caught a thousand punds.
Speaker 2: I mean it was just he changed direction too.
Speaker 4: Fingertips boom spike.
Speaker 1: I wish we had a film of Arthur Smith. We
Speaker 1: put that out there the back pedal. No, he they
Speaker 1: had number one rule of of catching a punt, never
Speaker 1: step forward first because you can always win fast coming
Speaker 1: in and then the center field dude, everybody plays it
Speaker 1: at one point the figure it out.
Speaker 3: So the Dean is uh, And it was just awesome.
Speaker 3: And the reason I let off with that is the
Speaker 3: reaction from the players. I mean, I thought they picked
Speaker 3: him up and I thought they were gonna drop him
Speaker 3: and break his head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought something was gonna happen to him, man.
Speaker 4: I mean, they hold him up in the air.
Speaker 3: I mean, but the excitement that the players uh genuinely
Speaker 3: had for for Dean. They love him, they care about him.
Speaker 3: I know that they play hard. Obviously, you guys played
Speaker 3: hard for him. They will play hard for him.
Speaker 4: He's a great teacher, and you know it's not easy.
Speaker 3: You know, I got a lot of ideas and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of things that I want to try to do,
Speaker 3: and he, you know, he wants to combine with what
Speaker 3: he's done, and so that's always a good conversation that
Speaker 3: we have and a great dynamic. And you know, this
Speaker 3: job would be difficult, you know, if Dean wasn't part
Speaker 3: of this it was one of the first guys I called,
Speaker 3: and he was my coordinator in New England, and you know,
Speaker 3: obviously we had a respect for him and the guys
Speaker 3: in Baltimore. I mean, he's coached numerous Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: players And again last year, ray Lewis went in and
Speaker 3: he sheepishly came and asked me could he go to
Speaker 3: the induction centremon I'm like, are you kidding me? Like,
Speaker 3: We'll get you a flight, we'll get you back, get
Speaker 3: you wherever you need to get to. And it was
Speaker 3: like during camp and again Ed Reid's going in this
Speaker 3: year and Ed Reid invited him and he came back
Speaker 3: and He's like, you know you think I can And
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, of.
Speaker 4: Course you can't.
Speaker 3: Like any of our coaches coach Hall of famers, And
Speaker 3: they asked him to come. You can have the day
Speaker 3: off during training camp to go be with a player
Speaker 3: that you coaches going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was going to retire after his Baltimore
Speaker 2: he was and you got you got the old boy
Speaker 2: to come back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's recruiting.
Speaker 2: Was that was it was it really hard getting him
Speaker 2: to come back.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think that he had set his
Speaker 3: mind up and that him and Mel they have you know,
Speaker 3: they have a vacation home or a retirement home that
Speaker 3: they enjoy spending time at.
Speaker 4: And I think that he was going to do a
Speaker 4: lot of that and and go spend time with his wife.
Speaker 3: And then you know, after, you know, I probably was
Speaker 3: a weak conversation or dialogue that we had, and then
Speaker 3: you know, he made the commitment to join us, and
Speaker 3: I'm glad that he is.
Speaker 1: Braves.
Speaker 2: Hang on one question, It's a fun one. Would you
Speaker 2: rather yes? So would you rather question?
Speaker 4: All right, answer this question or leave? Leave?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Would you rather? Okay, we got to go back a
Speaker 2: little bit because picture yourself rookie year you imagine then yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Your mom and Gin bad shape?
Speaker 2: Okay, you follow me a little bit.
Speaker 4: I'm there.
Speaker 2: You either have would you rather have sex with Gin
Speaker 2: with your mom's subconscious or your mom with Gin subconscious,
Speaker 2: with Jen with Jin's body, but your mom's brain, your
Speaker 2: mom's weren't experiencing it?
Speaker 1: Say oh, Michael, Michael, don't grab me.
Speaker 4: So I don't even I mean that that, I guess
Speaker 4: is a decent question. I'm not really sure. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: end up having sex with my wife the body.
Speaker 2: Hey, you're not You're not wrong. I chose to.
Speaker 3: She was the girlfriend too, Yeah, you're in college when
Speaker 3: we went home with a couple, you know, friends and
Speaker 3: their girlfriends to back home too my parents house, and
Speaker 3: we had gone out, and so we were arguing.
Speaker 4: Janiar arguing is one of those like two in the
Speaker 4: morning arguments, and she was like sitting on my lap,
Speaker 4: like crying, and like she's like why, and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, you know, we're fine, and so my dad
Speaker 3: like walks out and then he's like it makes a
Speaker 3: you turn and he like goes back and she's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I think your dad thinks we're having sex.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, I don't think. So the next
Speaker 4: morning he's like and I was like, no, we weren't.
Speaker 4: It was like no way fully clothed. It was just
Speaker 4: like how it looked at two in the morning, and
Speaker 4: usually she was petrified.
Speaker 3: That's all in the family room, like on like a
Speaker 3: like an automate, And that's where I thought, you this
Speaker 3: was going, Like you know, I was gonna go to
Speaker 3: like in your parents' house.
Speaker 4: Or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I went weird on left field.
Speaker 4: Okay, boys, I appreciate it, man,