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Speaker 1: March madness is here and you can never have too

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Speaker 1: much action. So if you've already filled out your brackets,

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Speaker 1: those Cinderella parlays, all that's left to do is target

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Speaker 1: those NCAA tournament player props on my Calvary's. I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by Eric Binfor and we're here to serve up six

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Speaker 1: of these player props in the round of sixty four.

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Speaker 1: Kerner's bracket simulations, Nick Giffen's player prop projections and pick

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Speaker 2: Eric, Welcome to the show, brother.

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Speaker 1: This is the best time of year, and this is

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Speaker 1: also when everyone's filled with optimism. We want to take overs,

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Speaker 1: we want to take those superstars to dominate. But what

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Speaker 1: I noticed when I looked at our six player props,

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Speaker 1: we avoided the one in two seeds. Maybe we'll save

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Speaker 1: them for down the road. But philosophically is that where

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Speaker 1: you land right out of the gate in these blowouts.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see a guy get ninety five

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the stability in the projection and the playing time.

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Speaker 2: Generally we might get efficiency or lack thereof on the

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Speaker 2: other side in the sixteen to fifteen, but efficiency can

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Speaker 2: only take you so far. If you're not playing the

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Speaker 2: final ten twelve, you know, we just don't know. There's

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Speaker 2: so much variance. We got a lot of games to

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Speaker 2: pick from, we got a lot of player props out

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Speaker 2: there to pick from. I just don't feel the need

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Speaker 2: like the sixteen seed side of things, the efficiency is

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Speaker 2: going to be really bad. It's really tempting to take

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Speaker 2: those those unders. But those guys, the ray Sean Taylor's

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Speaker 2: backdoor their way taking twenty two to twenty three shots

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Speaker 2: against the walk Ons and the you know, the third

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Speaker 1: Now I just said, we're kind of avoiding those top seeds,

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Speaker 1: those all Americans, just kidding. You're going with Braden Smith

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Speaker 1: right out of the gate, arguably the best point guard

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Speaker 1: does that keep high point in it for forty minutes?

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Speaker 1: And if so, does Braden Smith have a monster performance

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Speaker 2: I think so. I know this is a player prop show.

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Speaker 2: But this matchup is about as pristine as you can

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Speaker 2: get in my opinion, for you know, facilitating point guards,

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Speaker 2: He leads the entire country in assist straight over forty

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try to counterbalance some of these overs

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Speaker 1: and really Georgia their strength is on the interior. We

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Speaker 1: Georgia is thirteenth in points per possession allowed when defending

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Speaker 1: the post. Where does Graham ek eat on the post?

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Speaker 1: So the fact that it's a strength on strength matchup there,

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Speaker 1: ek in a matchup where people are looking ahead, kind

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Speaker 1: I think that could be a mistake, no pun intended.

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Speaker 2: I think this will be a dogfight. Totally with you.

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Speaker 2: I actually picked Georgia in this spot. I'm a little

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Speaker 2: weary of the analytical ranking of Gonzaga. Clearly a great team,

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Speaker 2: And then you combine it with the strength versus strength

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Speaker 2: is battle tested, right, the strength that they have with

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Speaker 1: This time of year, it's kyp time know your personnel.

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Speaker 1: There's players who are out keish on Gilbert for Iowa State,

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Speaker 1: done for the tournament. That's a huge blow to the Cyclones.

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Speaker 1: And then you have other players coming back into the

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Speaker 1: the exact situation we had with rain Smith and Louisville.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about what you like on his points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so rain Smith looks ut to return after about

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Speaker 2: Really fun player. It's unfortunate. No one wants to bet

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Speaker 2: You know, he was a thirty ish minute a game guy.

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Speaker 2: If everybody remembers Jack Golkie of last year, Rain Smith

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Speaker 2: for him in this spot is they play Creighton, and

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Speaker 2: similar to how Brayden Smith can feast in that deep

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Speaker 2: drop coverage that high point offers, it's gonna be very

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Speaker 2: difficult for range Smith to even get shots off against

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Speaker 2: catch and shoot where rain Smith thrives. I don't even

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of risk Rainsmith here at

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Speaker 2: Give me under eleven and a half. I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: Piggyback off your Braden Smith play from earlier. I'm going

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Speaker 1: If you're listening and you're interested in a plus one

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Speaker 1: Before we get you out of here, Eric, one question

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Speaker 2: A guy I like this this weekend is Arizona's Henry Vasar,

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Speaker 1: If we've peaked your interests with this NCAA tournament player

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Speaker 1: at five point thirty giving you all of their picks

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Speaker 1: For Eric bin four, I'm Mike Caliberys. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for listening. Please comments, look into the chat. You're

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