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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia.

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Speaker 2: Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome to Media to Radio Live. It's eleven

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Speaker 3: am here at Meat Eater HQ and Bozeman, Montana. That's

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Speaker 3: nine a m. On the sea, otter infested waters surrounding

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Speaker 3: Prince of Wales Island. I'm your host, Brody Henderson. I'm

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Speaker 3: joined today by the man every elk in Montana fears

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Speaker 3: the most, Corey Caulkins. That's not you. We also have

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Speaker 3: a very special co host today that some of you

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Speaker 3: might even recognize. That's right, Steve Renela is back in

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Speaker 3: the house. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you man. It's always fun to be here.

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Speaker 3: Ben in a while. Yeah, we got a big show

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Speaker 3: to we have Heather Deville. She's gonna talk to us

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Speaker 3: about her life up in southeast Alaska and a couple

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Speaker 3: of her new mediater shows. Me Stephen Corey are gonna

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Speaker 3: gonna lay out some indefensible laws that we're going to defend. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: We've got some primo hot tip offs out of Wisconsin

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Speaker 3: and some advice for husbands and fathers during hunting season.

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Speaker 3: And in the spirit of full disclosure, this is not

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Speaker 3: actually live. We won't have any live chat feedback. And

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Speaker 3: the reason for that is because the day we're supposed

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Speaker 3: to record live, Phil's gonna be out of town nerding

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Speaker 3: out on video games. Phil, you want to tell everyone

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Speaker 3: what's so important that you've got to miss a live recording.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like you're making that up, but you're

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Speaker 4: you're not when you're watching us. Randall and I will

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Speaker 4: be on a plane on our way to Nashville, Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: going to Buckfest twenty twenty five. And Buckfest is also

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Speaker 4: the grounds for the World Championships of Big Buck Hunter,

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Speaker 4: So Randall and I will be there documenting it, making

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Speaker 4: some some video content that you guys can look forward

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Speaker 4: to soon.

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Speaker 5: But a bunch of no, it's good with that black backdrop,

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Speaker 5: I know, and go back to that for a minute.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good job, overemphasizing that he was married, he'd

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Speaker 1: be he'd be cleaning up right now, Steve, don't are

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Speaker 1: you have you played Big Buck Hunter?

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Speaker 2: Philm I was never a big like light gun like.

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Speaker 4: I didn't play I didn't have a Nintendo's I never

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Speaker 4: played duck Hunt, and I didn't spend enough time in

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Speaker 4: bars before I had a kid to be to get

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Speaker 4: really good at big buck hunters, so it was never

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Speaker 4: a So this is a whole learning experience for me.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to check it out.

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Speaker 2: Is Randall good at big buck hunter? I don't believe.

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Speaker 4: So I know cal col holds some pride for his

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Speaker 2: Skit forbid that playing in it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And my buddy Jimmy Dorn had a pizza shop

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Speaker 5: and he had that in there, and he knew I

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Speaker 5: hated a big buck hunter because I thought it taught

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Speaker 5: bad ethics and I'd come in there.

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Speaker 2: At first he'd do his hand my kids.

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Speaker 5: Rolls quarters just to antagonize me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ambivalent towards it. I imagine you're going to

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Speaker 3: see a bunch of nons pretending they're hunters there film.

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Speaker 4: Oh fir, I mean yeah, most likely Randall kind of

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Speaker 4: I think is planning on dressing the part. I think

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Speaker 4: just hang out. So we'll see how that goes. But

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Speaker 4: we've talked to the guys putting it on and they

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Speaker 4: we're excited to meet all the people that are going

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Speaker 3: We'll have fun. Thanks, all right, before we get into

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Speaker 3: the meat and potatoes today's show, And need to let

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Speaker 3: everyone know that the newest edition of our audio original

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Speaker 3: book series Meat Eaters American History, The Hide Hunters eighteen

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Speaker 3: sixty five eighteen eighty three, releases next Tuesday on October fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: You can pre order it now wherever you get audio books,

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Speaker 3: audible Apple books, wherever you can get them. Ste you

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Speaker 3: want to give folks ideas, an idea of what to

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Speaker 3: expect from hide hunters, like some some titillating tidbits about

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Speaker 3: the like of a hide hunter.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 5: For those of you that have listened to or follow

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Speaker 5: our Meet Eaters American History series, we've been focusing on

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Speaker 5: different eras of commercial market hunters. So we did the

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Speaker 5: long hunters, which were the professional deer skin hunters, most

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Speaker 5: Rocky Mountain beaver trappers. Big names from that era would

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Speaker 5: be Jim Bridger, John Colter, Jed Smith and that volume

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Speaker 5: tracked up to eighteen forty. So for the hide hunters.

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Speaker 5: We're jumping ahead to eighteen sixty five. Eighteen sixty five

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Speaker 5: when the last fifteen million.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo on the American Great planes.

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Speaker 5: Were shot out by professional buffalo hunters, which we call

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Speaker 5: the hide hunters. Very bloody time, very dangerous occupation. Even

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Speaker 5: though those people are much maligned now and they're regarded

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Speaker 5: as these great enemies of American wildlife, you have to

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Speaker 5: begrudgingly if even if doing so begrudgingly, you have to

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Speaker 5: acknowledge just an incredible skill set.

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Speaker 2: It sounds funny to say it, but an.

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Speaker 5: Incredible skill set, and I had stated to say it too,

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Speaker 5: an unbelievable work ethic that propelled these guys out on

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Speaker 5: we cast some shade on them. We talked about their motivations.

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Speaker 5: They were products of the Civil War. These are generally

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Speaker 5: people that had no prospects in life. Poverty was rampant,

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Speaker 5: and the American history pushed them onto the planes where

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Speaker 5: they where they killed fifteen million buffalo and in a

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Speaker 5: decade Yep, it's an incredible story. And in from now

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Speaker 5: we'll jump into whatever we're debate and what we're going.

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Speaker 2: To jump into next you haven't decided yet. No, we

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Speaker 2: might do something about the birds, the bird hunters.

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Speaker 3: I know for a time you're thinking about whales, but

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Speaker 2: Not doing the whalers.

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Speaker 5: I think that we might jump to we might jump

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Speaker 5: to Alaska during the Great Depression or sorry a Latin, No,

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Speaker 5: it would be Alaska and we would cover possibly Klondike

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Speaker 5: Twenties and end it at the stock market crash, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and surrounding for the Alaskan fur trade during the during

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Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, So you've done three of these Steve

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Speaker 3: the long Hunters, mountain men, and hide hunters, and you

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Speaker 2: And one the hide hunters?

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Speaker 5: I've always said that I would like to go back

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Speaker 5: thousand years ago, seventeen thousand years ago, whatever, man. But

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Speaker 2: Go with Boone.

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Speaker 5: Daniel Boone the first time he went to the Cumberland

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Speaker 3: Because that was still new territory. Like the hide hunters

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Speaker 5: Like no, no, when you get into the hide We'll

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Speaker 5: a bunch in our Hide Hunter piece. There were hide

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Speaker 5: hunters that killed ten thousand buffalo. There was an individual

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Speaker 5: who killed ten thousand who lived to see Playboy magazine published.

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Speaker 5: and he was fighting comanches while killing ten thousand buffalo

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Speaker 5: on the tests wold you it is this market hunting

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Speaker 5: period that straddles it perfectly straddles what we think of

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a crazy era.

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Speaker 3: Kind of makes uh living through the creation of the

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Speaker 2: There were hide hunters who would who lived to see

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Speaker 2: the publication of a Sand County Almanac, and who lived

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Speaker 3: And they started to think about that.

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Speaker 5: No, they like they sat on the They sat on

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Speaker 3: All right, So order that book up and listen to it,

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Speaker 3: and uh, Steve will figure out what the next one

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Speaker 3: You guys, uh playing in any big hunts that are

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Speaker 2: I'm solid kid from here on out for a while.

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Speaker 3: Me too.

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Speaker 2: I got I got a month of hot kid action.

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Speaker 3: Kid Antelope, kid deer. Yeah, that's that's fun.

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Speaker 2: Though this No, No, I wouldn't have I wouldn't have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all kids all the time, speaking to kids. I

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Speaker 5: put some little kiddie waiters on your desk.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I saw that, Thank you. Yeah, we'll use those.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's only been a couple of weeks. We've still

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Speaker 1: What kids, Well, my kids just on the cusp of

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Speaker 1: being able to come with me. Yeah, you'll go out

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Speaker 1: and toot on the bugle a little bit, but it's

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Speaker 1: going to get back out for it. But you got

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Speaker 1: to bring them, man, bring Oh he loves it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: have been the third week of September, and we almost

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Speaker 1: killed elk every single day. But they weren't like fired

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Speaker 2: Nope, I have drawn no drawbacks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, knocked a few.

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Speaker 3: Let's uh, let's get to the interview. I I think

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Speaker 3: Phil has a special drop here for Heather Duville. Bill,

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Speaker 3: you don't lay that down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I put it in the script and then I

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Speaker 2: But here, man, me we'll rate it.

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Speaker 3: We'll rate it well.

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Speaker 4: I think this is one that I haven't played since

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Speaker 4: you were last here.

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Speaker 2: Oh so you already we've already, we've already heard it.

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Speaker 4: It's the Fleetwood mac One.

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Speaker 3: it is nice. All right. For those of you who

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Speaker 3: Her traditional name is Ku Tink, and she belongs to

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Speaker 3: the Shank what Eye clan, which is Egle Wolf. Did

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Heather. Congratulations on that skin man that looks

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Speaker 3: he's got to make a case for it.

443
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: Don't give it air.

444
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is coming from a very disgruntled born and

445
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: raised Montana here in a room surrounded by Hope cracks

446
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: down other states. But I'd love it if game agencies,

447
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: whatever state you might be in, and I think a

448
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: lot of you know, natives to their states would agree

449
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: that some of these once or more than once in

450
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 1: a lifetime tags maybe should be given to those native

451
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: residents instead of just you know, the folks who just

452
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: moved in six months ago to be able to apply

453
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: for some.

454
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 5: Well, I think if you've been like if you did

455
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 5: like like let's say like twenty years in the state,

456
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 5: you're cool mmmmm.

457
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: Or there's like cumulative or let's say there's like kids

458
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: are in this boat.

459
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: Let's say there's like five elk tag bull elk tags

460
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: available and it's like special hunts specially like yeah, maybe

461
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: spot one of those for a native or something.

462
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: No, well, sure, yeah, I'm really thinking like some of

463
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: these critters that you know, somehow they're not growing as

464
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: fast as other animals like moose, big horn sheep numbers

465
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: are just going.

466
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 6: Down into it.

467
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: I just think you're cutting a little Like I think

468
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: that like twenty years is cool, but.

469
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: As Brody alluded to, maybe just having like a hard

470
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: percentage of those going to twenty A certain group of

471
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: people in a bucket.

472
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

473
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: You know, obviously twenty year bucket, you know what hospital

474
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: you were born in or whatever.

475
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 5: It's like you get kind of entered into, Like it

476
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 5: just gets a little hard to control, you know, if

477
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 5: it's twenty years, it's cool.

478
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: Right, So it's just getting hard to draw those tags.

479
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: I mean I can see.

480
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: I mean it's always so harden.

481
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 6: Oh, but it's just.

482
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: Getting harder and harder and harder.

483
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: By degrees though, Like how much harder is point oh

484
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: four percent versus point oh two five percent?

485
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 7: Right?

486
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: Well twice? No one thinks about it like that. No, No,

487
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: you're looking at them. Oh shit, they're all the same,

488
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: Like they're not all the same.

489
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 9: No.

490
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: And my problem was I just didn't buy bonus points

491
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: when I was guiding. I didn't think i'd ever leave

492
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: the guy.

493
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 5: There was sounds like something maybe there should be a

494
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 5: law that you, if you screw up and don't play

495
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 5: the game, you should be just out yep.

496
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: Well, or maybe native should start cruing bonus points at birth.

497
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: That'd be nice for a while.

498
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 5: You could buy your kids bid my kids, my two

499
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 5: year old had two bonus points.

500
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they got rid of that, yep, but

501
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: they kept the points.

502
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 6: That's nice.

503
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

504
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 5: Anyway, Now what I've been telling my kids, here's the

505
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 5: deal on this one. I've been telling them because I'm

506
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 5: doing all this. If you draw, when you start drawing, moo,

507
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 5: sheep and goat, and I don't get to come with,

508
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 5: you're paying me back for all that ship going back

509
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 5: to when you were a baby.

510
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

511
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you get to go along.

512
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 7: No.

513
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: I got to go with my dad on his most

514
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: likely once in a lifetime moose a few years ago.

515
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: It was amazing.

516
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: Steve doesn't seem convinced, but I drew.

517
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: I Drew Goat. You know, I'm glad I drew.

518
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: Well, all right, Steve, what do he got for us?

519
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've been pondering this man, and I

520
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: was gonna do one, but I can't articulate it.

521
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: The other day I saw one of those Tesla trucks

522
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 5: with the had he kind of had a Yosemite samed

523
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 5: out where he had like some like adventure stuff and

524
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 5: he had he had one of them ride tubes mounted

525
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 5: to the and I was thinking, like I could let

526
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 5: it slide. I tried to just try to be like

527
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 5: I didn't see that. I didn't see that, but I

528
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 5: can't get it out of my head. I felt like

529
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 5: something died or something was born in that moment. Died

530
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 5: for sure, but yeah, some diet was bored. But that's

531
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 5: not my rule because I haven't thought of what the

532
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 5: law would be my law, and it's totally defensible.

533
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

534
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 5: I'm not a big like you know, I'm a States

535
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 5: rights guide generally right, and I'm not for like the

536
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 5: man coming down and you know, busting everybody's heads about stuff.

537
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: I think a good role for the federal government, a

538
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 5: good use of Trump's time would be that he comes

539
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: in and he says he comes in and he says,

540
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 5: Hunter's orange laws going forward is a hat. I don't

541
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 5: care Executive order where you're from. I like orange hat.

542
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: I like it.

543
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on that one.

544
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 5: So that no matter where, it's like during general firearm,

545
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: during general firearm, not special SIAS is during general firearm,

546
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: whatever your version of that is orange hat, not all

547
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 5: the vast the four hundred inches. Then you're like, you

548
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 5: got your orange vest on, but then you got your

549
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 5: biny harness on. Then you put your backpack on. You're like, well,

550
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 5: technically I don't have four hundred inches because it's all

551
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: and you're all worried a hat, wyoming hat.

552
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: Or best it's a hat?

553
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, hat, have it be a hat?

554
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: Yep, I now agree, a hat or less.

555
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't want Alaska have no orange law. You shouldn't

556
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: make them have an orange law. It's like you can't

557
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: be more than a hat. Oh my god, ya, that's

558
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: what I meant.

559
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 5: You're breaking kind of thinking about my law as I'm

560
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 5: kind of like I hadn't smoothed.

561
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: This all out the way I would have liked. No

562
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: more than a hat.

563
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 5: If you're more than a hat, they're going to deprive

564
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 5: you of federal funding, schools, highways, nothing, Your state's cut off.

565
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: Where's hot pink fall into this whole?

566
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: No hot pink.

567
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 5: My daughter made me order a hot pink vest, send

568
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 5: it back. I hope she gets a ticket. I hope

569
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 5: she gets a ticket.

570
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's paying that one?

571
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it out for lawn.

572
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 5: More money by executive order, no orange hat or else,

573
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 5: no federal funding for anything.

574
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: Gotcha, poor kids. We should get that on the ballot.

575
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, all right my mine. Uh, I don't know

576
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: if it's defensible or not. I don't think you.

577
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 6: Shall do it.

578
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 5: You're gonna get some you're gonna get some people. You're

579
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 5: gonna get some yeah what abouts.

580
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna be like yeah, what about right, But

581
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: just just go with it.

582
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: I don't think you should be allowed to shoot any

583
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: mule deer does or antelope doze any anywhere ever, because

584
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: like drought winner kill, like those species are always like

585
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: one year away from disaster, always always constantly, and we've

586
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: just seen places where killing mule deer does like over

587
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: time has had disaster effects on like regional deer herds.

588
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: Run with it. They're gonna have some naysayers, you're gonna

589
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: have some water bouts, but run with it, like if.

590
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: You need meat, and like I'm all for it. They're

591
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: like here in Montana, you can shoot I don't know,

592
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: ten white tailed dos if you really want to.

593
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, if you've got a good gas budget, right.

594
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but there's like ways to get meat, and

595
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: I just don't think anyone needs to be shooting mule deer.

596
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: Dose is the main thing. But I think antelope too,

597
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: because they're just like on the edge all the time

598
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: and in a lot of places. There's a general decline

599
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: in antelope numbers. Like tell us how you about your

600
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: antelope punting experience back in the day, Like what you

601
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: guys use to it?

602
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 5: Now? We used to go we'd go out, two of

603
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 5: us to go out east to the eastern part of

604
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 5: the state.

605
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: Where because you can get all the dough.

606
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: Tags, right, so we have how many do tags would

607
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: you get?

608
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: We would go out there, we would leave the truck.

609
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 5: Our rule was, you leave the truck, you come back

610
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 5: with two. You leave the truck, come back with two.

611
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 5: You leave the truck, come back with two. Every year, Yeah,

612
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 5: two hunters six analope. Then then all of a sudden

613
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 5: it's like, whoa, there's not that many anelope around.

614
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

615
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 5: Then it becomes hard to draw a permit. And all

616
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: of a sudden, now they're like, hey, kill all the

617
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 5: dolls you want, right, yeah, two dolls per yeah, and

618
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 5: then let me let me, let me crystal ball this.

619
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: In a couple of years, it'll be there's no anelope.

620
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: Around exactly because there'll be a bad winner.

621
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: And it won't because they're overgrazing. It won't be an

622
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 5: overgrazing thing. It'll be it'll be a weather issue.

623
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a combination of shooting too many doughs for

624
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: a few years in a row.

625
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: No, I can see it. You're gonna have a lot

626
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: of pushback on that one. It's not like mine.

627
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I could kind of see an exception in

628
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: on like private land for like crop damage tags, where

629
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: you get a bunch of animals concentrated in a small area.

630
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: But that would like be the only thing that I

631
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: might be willing to stretch it on. So there you go.

632
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: M I wish we or chat going on, so people

633
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: could be weighing in on.

634
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: Don't get me started on that. How many years in

635
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: a row I haven't drawn an antelope tag.

636
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you a secret that people aren't gonna like

637
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: when they hear it. Either don't do that. No, no,

638
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: I get I get antelope tags and don't antelope do tags,

639
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: and I don't use it.

640
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: He's like the pe to people.

641
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like the people in Florida that are buying

642
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 5: all the bear draw stuff so they can sit out the.

643
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: Hunt, taking away his opportunities from little kiddies.

644
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: He's like subverting the will of the state agency like that.

645
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: Do is gonna should come down on him man, all right, M.

646
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: I'll get some hate for that one, but that's okay,

647
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: all right. So we got another interview coming out. Yeah,

648
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: the chest off only done it once or twice. We

649
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: got our next guest coming up, Guy grown Walld from

650
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: Grown Walled Fur and Wool out of Minnesota, Illinois, Illinois. Sorry,

651
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: Steve told me Minnesota, and I corrected myself. I didn't

652
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: hear you. And this is like, uh, fur and trapping

653
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: related stuff.

654
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: So Steve, you take.

655
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: Steve's gonna roll with the interview. So here we go.

656
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 5: As Brody said, we're joined today by Guy Groenwald from

657
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 5: Grownwald Fur and Wool. Guy happens to be joining us,

658
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 5: uh from overseas. He's he's over in Europe right now,

659
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 5: but he we worked out the time zones and he's

660
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 5: gonna join us in the theme. What we're gonna talk

661
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 5: about is, uh, how there came to be, why there

662
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 5: is and uh an explosion in skunk you heard it right,

663
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 5: skunk hide values some historic highs right now being paid

664
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 5: for skunk hides. And if you follow the fur markets,

665
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 5: and I always do just because I think it's fun.

666
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 5: And I used to like trap a lot and sell

667
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 5: stuff there's always these little bright spots in the fur markets.

668
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 5: And and uh, I can't think of any time my

669
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: life when there's ever been a bright spot around skunk hides.

670
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 5: But Guy's gonna Guy's gonna explain it all to us, uh, and.

671
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: Your whole career.

672
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: Skunks have always been a marketable fur bear, right, Like,

673
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 5: there's always been some market for skunk fur.

674
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 8: No.

675
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 6: No, I mean there was a time where I think

676
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 6: we destroyed like twenty thousand skins out of our freezer.

677
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 6: We just we had stored them for twenty five years,

678
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 6: and we thought it would never come back.

679
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 5: Oh, it goes that bad because the reason I said that,

680
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 5: as I thought, and thanks for correcting me, I always

681
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 5: thought there'd always been some level of a novelty trade

682
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 5: in skunk that kept the market a light.

683
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 6: But it was it was, you know, it was so small,

684
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: you know at one time that you know, it just

685
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 6: you know, and we had you know, some of the

686
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 6: off grades, you know, you just there was just no

687
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 6: way to to market them in the novelty market that

688
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 6: maybe took a couple thousand skins a year, got it?

689
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: Okay?

690
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 5: Okay, So where where a skunk price has been hitting lately.

691
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 5: And and also you know, before you answer that, maybe

692
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: do this. When when you guys buy you got you

693
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 5: guys buy from trappers. You buy from hunters, primarily trappers.

694
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: When someone brings you a skunk, what are they bringing

695
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 5: to you? Like, just just explain that product because people

696
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 5: here skunk and they think like, oh, I must smell.

697
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 6: Bad, you know, Okay, So I'd like to differentiate. So

698
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 6: the first thing is is there is going to be

699
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 6: for most skunks this year, very little difference between just

700
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 6: bringing us the tail and bringing us the entire skin.

701
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 6: With the tail. There will be very little difference in price,

702
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 6: if any. And the only reason as far as selling

703
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 6: to my company, that you would want to leave the

704
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: you know, the animal intact and not remove the tail

705
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 6: is basically if it's a black hide or almost all black, okay,

706
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: because then it'll be sold into the novelty business. And

707
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 6: and even the last couple of years before the the

708
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 6: tail business started, you know, the the novelty business was

709
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 6: kind of good. So you know, skunk were starting to

710
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 6: creep up as far as value. So right now, you know,

711
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 6: there's still a there's still a market for novelty skunks,

712
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 6: and you know, with tails. Uh, you know most of

713
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 6: them have to have tails. And you know we have

714
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 6: thousands of skunks that are placed now without tails because

715
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 6: we can sell the tails, but we can't sell enough

716
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 6: of the hides.

717
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 5: And give you real quick, give me a when the

718
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 5: novelty trade is good and you have a well and

719
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: you have a properly put up skunk for what would

720
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 5: that skunk what would that skunk for be selling for?

721
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 6: You know this, maybe twenty bucks something like that for

722
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 6: a really nice one, you know, perfect tail, you know,

723
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 6: big size, something like that. But you know the poor ones,

724
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 6: you know, the novelty business, you know, you just couldn't

725
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 6: move them. So you know it could be a zero.

726
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 6: But you know, before this, before the tail thing came,

727
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 6: you know, you know, even a good one without the tail,

728
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 6: you know, without or with the tail, obviously for a

729
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 6: novelty was maybe twenty dollars. Okay, okay.

730
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: And so when guys are when you're buying just for

731
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: the tails, and we'll get to what's happening with them,

732
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: But when you're buying just for the tails, you're buying

733
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 2: you want the tailbone removed.

734
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 6: I want the tailbone removed, and we want it like

735
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 6: it's stretched and dried, just like any other skin that

736
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 6: you would stretch and dry, or like if you stretched

737
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 6: and dried the skunk skin. You want to do the tail.

738
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 6: You want to remove the fat. I mean, if you're

739
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 6: going to catch a hundred skunks this year, I would

740
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 6: buy a little boor axe. Borax works a little better

741
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 6: than salt. And you know, you don't typically put salt

742
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 6: dry a hide as far as the fur bearer goes.

743
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 6: But a little borax or a little salt on a

744
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 6: on a tail is probably not a bad idea. After

745
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 6: you take the after you take the flesh.

746
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: Off, So you're taking there. Let's let's just focus on

747
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: the tails, I guess.

748
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 5: So, okay, you're taking a tail, you're cutting the till,

749
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 5: you're cutting the tail off at the base of the tail.

750
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: Yep, you're pulling, you're removing the bone.

751
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 5: Then you're scraping all the excess fat and muscle off,

752
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 5: so you scrape it down to clean leather, clean skin.

753
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 6: We should shouldn't take you more than a minute.

754
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 5: You shouldn't take you more in a minute. And then

755
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 5: you're tacking it out. So you're opening that thing out

756
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: on a board and tacking it out yeap or.

757
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 6: Putting a little screen across it or anything just to

758
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 6: kind of keep it flat and make sure that you

759
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 6: go all the way to the tip because those longest

760
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 6: white fibers are on the tip, so you want to

761
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 6: make sure you.

762
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: Go all the way to the end, and then you

763
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 5: dry it. And if you want to add a little

764
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: borax on there to help it dry, that's fine.

765
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 6: That's that's that's probably a pretty good idea, especially, you know,

766
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 6: if you're gonna do any kind of quantity, you know,

767
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 6: that would be a really good idea. You're not gonna

768
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 6: have any hair loss, You're not gonna have any putification,

769
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 6: you know. So it's just it does a little nicer

770
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 6: job because that leather on the on the on the

771
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 6: tail is a little thicker, and just it'll it'll dry

772
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 6: down faster.

773
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: Okay, we'll get in a minute to what some of

774
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 5: the what what I deem to be like pretty crazy

775
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 5: prices being paid for skunks right now. But but explain

776
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 5: to folks, where are these skunks going and why weren't

777
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 5: they going there before?

778
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 6: Well, they just they they're they're going for you know,

779
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 6: Hasidic strimles, the hats, the Jewish hats for Orthodox Jews.

780
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 2: Can you pull one of those up real quick?

781
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: Phil?

782
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: Do we have that technological case? It will take me

783
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: a sack, but I can do it. Go ahead, go ahead, guys.

784
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 6: And they're just they're just they just didn't use them.

785
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 6: I mean, they they find a you know, uh, a

786
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 6: fiber that they really like and uh, they use it

787
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 6: and it works, it works well. They want something that's

788
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 6: real long, they want something that's kind of stiff, and

789
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 6: they want something that kind of waves and when they

790
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 6: dance or you know, when they move around. And so yeah,

791
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 6: that's that's what they're looking for.

792
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: We're looking at all. We're trying to pull a strimle

793
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: up right now.

794
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 6: Okay, I think we pulled one up last year.

795
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so where how how is the skunk is

796
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: the skunk?

797
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 7: Like?

798
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: How is the tail being employed in that hat?

799
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 6: It's it's they're just using the fibers, But how.

800
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: Are they getting them in there? Like like like what

801
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 2: are they hooking it to there?

802
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 6: It's a it's an intricate process. There's glues and there's

803
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 6: innerwoven and yeah, it's it's a real I mean those

804
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 6: aren't you know, three hundred dollars hats.

805
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 3: You know, how many how many tails to make one hat?

806
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 6: I think for the really good ones, maybe twenty sixteen,

807
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 6: twenty or something.

808
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 2: Okay, And you said that's a three hundred dollars hat.

809
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 6: No, I said it's not. I mean it's thousands of dollars.

810
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 5: Okay, So but why did Why are some strimles three

811
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 5: hundred bucks and then some are thousands?

812
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 6: Based on I don't think anything's three hundred, but you

813
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 6: know some of them are definitely a couple of thousand

814
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 6: bucks cheaper.

815
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 5: So that is like, is it fair to say, I

816
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 5: don't want to put words in your mouth, is it

817
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 5: fair to say that this is sort of like a trend.

818
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: This is a trend with that style of hat.

819
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 6: It is, but you know this is not like necessarily

820
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 6: like like a typical fashion trend. You know, this could

821
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 6: be used for you know, for years. I mean they've

822
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 6: used that same hat that you had up there, you know,

823
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 6: has sable tails in it, and they've used table tails

824
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 6: for years and years, and there's and underneath it they

825
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 6: use fisher tails and you know, there's they they and

826
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 6: they've used them for years and years and years, and

827
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 6: they do though sometimes changed, they they do sometimes change

828
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 6: the look a little bit and go a different route.

829
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 6: Sable tales get more expensive, they use more of this

830
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 6: or more of that. But they you know, they have

831
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 6: used tails for you know, years and years, they just

832
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 6: haven't used skunk tails ever before.

833
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 5: Are most of these hats being sold in Hasidic communities

834
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 5: in the Eastern US? Or are these being exported to

835
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 5: Hasidic communities in Europe and Israel?

836
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: Like where are they winding up?

837
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 6: They are some of the some of the strimle is

838
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 6: is all over, but probably the skunk is mostly just

839
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 6: in the Eastern US, you know, Brooklyn and.

840
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: O K got it?

841
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 6: Got it? Got it?

842
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: And then when people if a if a consumer is

843
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: buying a strimle is, is a consumer shopping just by

844
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: look or are they shopping where? Like like if if

845
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: you're a if you're selling, if you sell stribles, are

846
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: you advertising it as to its contents or is it

847
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: people just buy it? Say like the look? Are they

848
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: going in and saying like I want one with skunk,

849
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: I want one with safe?

850
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 6: Oh no, I mean there's I mean I think even

851
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 6: a pretty casual observer could see the difference and the

852
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 6: difference in quality the longer hair, just how much nicer

853
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 6: it looks. I mean I've seen him in person, and yeah,

854
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 6: I mean it's kind of the bigger the better. Really.

855
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, my question was very clear what I and you

856
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: might not know the answer to this.

857
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 5: Does the buyer? Is the buyer aware of what fur

858
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 5: it was, what fur was being used? Or do you

859
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 5: think it's just you're just aware of the look and

860
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 5: you like the look. I think they're more aware of

861
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 5: the look I see.

862
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, just they're just like, wow, that looks you know,

863
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 6: that looks a lot more you know, whatever you want

864
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 6: to call that.

865
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, so let's talk about let's talk about prices,

866
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 5: because this is where it gets kind of interesting. You know,

867
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 5: I remember in the years I trapped, you know, I

868
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 5: mean like skunks man, you know, three four bucks?

869
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: Right, So.

870
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 5: What could people expect this coming as we're coming into

871
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: the as we're coming into the fall, coming into the

872
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 5: trap in seasons? What could people expect for a good

873
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: skunk tail? And what makes a skunk tail good?

874
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 6: We're going to be fifty, thirty five, and twenty depending

875
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 6: on how good the tail is, okay, and twenty and

876
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 6: then if it's if if somebody brings in a tail

877
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 6: and it's completely black, it's worthless. Okay. Now, if you'd

878
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 6: left that on this on a skunk, you know, and

879
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 6: had the whole skunk, and it was a nice skunk,

880
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 6: you know, just maybe with just a little bit of white,

881
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 6: you know, the skunk might be worth fifteen bucks. Okay,

882
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 6: because that can be used as a novelty skunk. But

883
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 6: if they if it's if it's got a lot of

884
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 6: white on it, you might as well just chop it off.

885
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: Mhmm. Okay, So what makes when you say a lot

886
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: of white? Like try to help someone understand.

887
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 5: So if they're looking at the totality of the tail

888
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 5: and they're seeing that like fifty percent of that tail

889
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 5: is white, where does that sit?

890
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: That was?

891
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 6: Probably that's probably a fifty dollars skunk, I mean if

892
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 6: it if it's But the only thing is like sometimes

893
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 6: we have to look at a few other things, like

894
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 6: the end. They could be like it sort of looks

895
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 6: like the fibers are like cut off at like three inches. Yep.

896
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 6: That that could That could also mean it's it's not

897
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 6: worth anything.

898
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 2: Can you see me pretty good?

899
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 6: I can see a little. But that's that's a probably uh,

900
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 6: that would be you know, thirty thirty five bucks probably. Okay,

901
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 6: that's a pretty nice that's a pretty nice that's a

902
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 6: thirty five.

903
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: Oh, this one kind of feels like a seven dollars tail.

904
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: Now look what'll be looking at now? Thirty five?

905
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, i'd say maybe maybe maybe even a little better

906
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 6: than that.

907
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: Good somewhere.

908
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're all, yeah, dude, I gotta tell you, man,

909
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 5: if I was if I was still, if I was

910
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: still just like a Michigan kid with a bunch of traps, dude,

911
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 5: I would be going nuts.

912
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 2: I would be going nuts this fall.

913
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, we I'm certain that you know

914
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 6: there's gonna be more more skunk strap this year.

915
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 5: So you know who's getting real excited right now is

916
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 5: a turkey hunters, because yeah, because like all those with

917
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 5: fur prices being down for a long time. Sure, and

918
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 5: you see these explosions of possums, skunks, raccoons, and you

919
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 5: see like declines in and ground nesting bird populations that

920
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 5: line up with those explosions, and mid sized predators, small

921
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 5: mid sized predators. It could be pretty good news for

922
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 5: birds too, if there's some interest what other oh sorry,

923
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 5: if you trap skunked.

924
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 6: You know you're gonna you're gonna catch all those other

925
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 6: items as well.

926
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're gonna have easy time getting permissions.

927
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 5: When you go and say can I trap skunks, They're

928
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 5: probably gonna be like, uh huh, Well give us another.

929
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: Give us a quick little snapshot, last last thing. We'll

930
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 5: hold you here for give us a snapshot of of

931
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 5: fur market in general, Like like going into the going

932
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: into the twenty five twenty six season, what's the what's

933
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 5: the forecast?

934
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 6: I think I think I would start with skunk actually,

935
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 6: and I mean the big question we get asked by

936
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 6: everybody is this thing gonna last? Okay? And I think

937
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 6: it's very similar to the beaver market. You know, three

938
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 6: years ago when the beaver price went way up. You know,

939
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 6: I think that we all thought there is no way

940
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 6: we knew what the usage was. It's a very good market.

941
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 6: The beaver, you know, hat market is still very good.

942
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 6: It's just that trappers went out and caught way more

943
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 6: than we possibly thought they were going to catch, okay,

944
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 6: and so the market got a little depressed. I you know,

945
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 6: there's there's two types of markets to go down. One

946
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 6: is because nobody's using the product, and one is because

947
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 6: they're producing too much. I mean, I like I'm much

948
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 6: more I like a market that's you know, being produced

949
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 6: too much rather than a market that's not being used,

950
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 6: because it means I can still sell it. So it'll it'll,

951
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 6: I think the skunk thing, you know, we'll start certainly

952
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 6: start out hot. We need a lot of skunks, and uh,

953
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 6: we'll just see how aggressive trappers are and if they're

954
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 6: super aggressive. You know, if you have extra skunks, you know, stunkdales,

955
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 6: what do you do with them? You know nothing? So

956
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 6: you know, we'll figure it out as we go. But

957
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 6: for right now, we'll start off hot. I think, uh,

958
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 6: last spring, you know when we ended up you know,

959
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 6: buying that. You know, we run all the routes for beaver,

960
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 6: which is you know into you know April and May.

961
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 6: The market was very difficult. You know, we couldn't hardly

962
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 6: sell a muskrat in April.

963
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 5: May.

964
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 6: We had a very difficult time selling racoon in April May.

965
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 6: China's market because of tariffs. You know, the economy there

966
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 6: was horrible. You know, all those items wild mink, I

967
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 6: mean you just didn't hardly want to buy it. You know,

968
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 6: the guys brought their beavers. They had trapped those and

969
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 6: that market had gone down, So you were buying all

970
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 6: this stuff and you couldn't sell any of it. So

971
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 6: compared to what the market ended up last year, you know,

972
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 6: if you take those prices, which we're you know, which

973
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 6: we're I'll acknowledge they were pretty bad. I mean, I

974
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 6: would say almost every item is up. You know, wild

975
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 6: mink will you know, certainly they'll be double what they

976
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 6: were last year. I mean, they're still not going to

977
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 6: be great, but you know, you could probably see some

978
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 6: twelve dollars mails, which is you know, you know, much

979
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 6: higher than it was last year. I would say muskrats,

980
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 6: you know, they were they were unsaleable, you know at

981
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 6: one time last year. They're they're definitely stronger. We've sold

982
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 6: a few rats recently. Heavy raccoon, you know, the semis

983
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 6: are not so great, but you know some of the heavies,

984
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 6: you know, there's it's just an item that's not produced

985
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 6: that much anymore, you know, Wisconsin, northern Iowa, southern Minnesota, Nebraska,

986
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 6: Dakota's you know that coon is still is still a

987
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 6: bit in demand. So yeah, I mean, I I I'm

988
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 6: a little bit more positive than I was maybe even

989
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 6: at this time last year. As far as the market

990
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 6: on most items, coyote market is still you know, very

991
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 6: very difficult. But most items they're certainly going to be

992
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 6: a market for. And uh, you know, go out and

993
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 6: trap them, and uh, you know, if you're drafting skunks,

994
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 6: you know you might as well, uh, you know, trap

995
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 6: some of the other stuff, you know, some of the

996
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 6: you know, raccoons. You know, obviously you know, look for

997
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 6: the better stuff. You know, you know, it's the stuff

998
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 6: with holes, the stuff that's discolored. You know, things like

999
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 6: that are going to have very little value. But uh,

1000
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 6: you know, most stuff will most things will be you know,

1001
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 6: a little better than last year.

1002
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 5: Okay, last last question, Uh, are there are gonna are

1003
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 5: there gonna be thousand dollars bobcats again this year in

1004
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 5: the right places?

1005
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 8: Ah?

1006
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, I would say so. Yeah. Yeah, the bobcat market,

1007
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 6: we're you know, we're pretty well sold out of uh

1008
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 6: out of better bobcats. So yeah, market is, uh is

1009
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 6: pretty good on those as well.

1010
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: Excellent man, All right, guy Groenwall, thanks for joining man.

1011
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 2: Good luck on scorch.

1012
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. Yeah, we'll talk to you all right.

1013
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: Zach get you excited for trapping season.

1014
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 6: Well, I don't, you know.

1015
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 2: I just keep my stuff and use it for stuff,

1016
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: hats and whatnot.

1017
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 5: But I'm telling you, dude, if I was like, if

1018
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 5: you could go back, if I was like me as

1019
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 5: a senior in high school and I knew that I

1020
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: could be those prices.

1021
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: On skunks, I would be good.

1022
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 3: They were a nuisance catch for you back then.

1023
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: Or it would be going game busters.

1024
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,479
Speaker 5: You know you tried to like you did your best

1025
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 5: to avoid them. I would be going just to be

1026
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 5: able to be like to try getting them. I would

1027
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 5: be going absolutely gangbusters.

1028
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 3: You're probably some trappers that are going, oh.

1029
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, because you like talking like, yeah, well a

1030
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 5: bunch of day. Yeah, and it's just the tails, right

1031
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 5: wing nuts.

1032
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: Cool something new.

1033
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 2: That's my whistle for that. Do that, Phil, You're probably

1034
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: good at it. Nope, Okay, we plugged a live to

1035
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: her at the end.

1036
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 3: Oh, let's do it at the end.

1037
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: Arkansas sold out, Fanville sold out.

1038
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 3: We still got stuff to go through here.

1039
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think we're done. I was just gonna

1040
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: butt it in there. How was my interview to go

1041
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: too long? No?

1042
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: No, we're fine.

1043
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: Perfect man needs you on more of these.

1044
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: Time for a hot tip Off segment, since it's that

1045
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: time of year when a lot of you out there

1046
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 3: about to get accused of abandoning your husbandly and fatherly duties.

1047
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 8: Not me.

1048
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: Doesn't happen to me, I know a lot of you.

1049
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 3: It's it's a problem. We gotta Oh wait, did I

1050
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: jump ahead?

1051
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 6: Yep?

1052
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 3: Jumped ahead?

1053
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Sorry number six first, Steve questions, No, I know, I

1054
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: just we've.

1055
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 3: Got a bonus hot tip off. We'll get to that,

1056
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 3: my bat. It's Hot tip Off time where we decide

1057
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: which two hunters has the best kernel of hard won

1058
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: knowledge and expertise. This week, the winner is going to

1059
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: get a bench made meat crafter, you want to pull

1060
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: it out, Corey Meat Crafter two point zero, and both

1061
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: flavors of our our new jerky right there, Steve, you

1062
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: want to hold Classic Pepper?

1063
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: What my hold?

1064
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 6: Ear? Oh?

1065
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, So the winner's going to get that stuff Classic

1066
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 5: Pepper and Hawaiian Terioki.

1067
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: Winner's getting that stuf Buffalo meat, and both contestants are

1068
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: going to get a copy of the new Fed Up

1069
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: Old Trucks Calendar. It signed, which makes it very valuable

1070
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: and rare.

1071
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: Collector ye.

1072
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: And and today's hot tip off. It is a special

1073
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: Wisconsin edition, the cheese curd edition. We've got Ryan beegle versus,

1074
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: Kevin Hall, Phil you want to roll the tape, Ryan

1075
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: bunt Rock.

1076
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 10: Hey, folks, Ryan, coming at you here from Wisconsin. I've

1077
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 10: got a hot tip off this week for your out

1078
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 10: of state hunts. When you have to cross lines and

1079
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 10: get the brains out of the skulls for CWD reasons,

1080
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 10: pack your cordless drill and you can either bring your

1081
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 10: own little fourteen gage wire with a jay hook at

1082
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 10: the end, or if you're in a pinch, any old

1083
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 10: school tent steak and take your cordless drill, stick it

1084
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 10: in the back of the skull and your am. It'll

1085
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 10: come out in goops. Dump it out. Take your standard

1086
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 10: issue water bottle, or if you're a high roller, get

1087
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 10: the skeezy one with the nozzle on the top from

1088
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 10: quick drip into the back. Here your squeeze, shake it out,

1089
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 10: raamer again, back and forth. Could you get all that

1090
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 10: stuff out of the rain cavity?

1091
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: M M.

1092
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 6: It comes out like a goop.

1093
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 10: But you got yourself a legal skull for across the

1094
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 10: state lines.

1095
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 6: Thanks.

1096
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Speaker 3: That's brilliant. All right, what's the next one? Do you

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00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: like that one? Hey, meet your crew.

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00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 8: This is Kevin Comming Atcher from Wisconsin. For my hot tip,

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00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 8: I'd like to discuss a dedicated kill kit. So when

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00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 8: I'm preparing to go on any Western hunt, what I

1101
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 8: like to do is take one of these gallon sized

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00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 8: vacuum sealed bags and I'll place my game bags in there,

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00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 8: along with a couple of zip ties, my hunting license

1104
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 8: and hunter safety card, maybe throwing a couple of rubber gloves,

1105
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 8: and then I always keep a dedicated skinning knife with

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00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 8: extra razor blades all inside this bag.

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00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 8: I'll throw it on the vacuum seal here, pull all

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00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 8: the air out of it, and once that's done, I

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00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 8: know I have a dedicated bag that I'll leave in

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00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 8: the bottom of my pack and it's only gonna come

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00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 8: out once I successfully harvest an animal.

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00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: Hot tip for you, man, it's a tough one. It's

1114
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: a tough one.

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00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 5: You know what he should do with that vax either

1116
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 5: you ever do this with your kids, Like when we're

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00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: going somewhere, I'll take their coming home close and vac

1118
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 5: sealed they're coming home close.

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00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: Then they never get into them and their head. It

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00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: doesn't exist anymore.

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00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: Man, I've lost usage for my vac seiler. I don't

1122
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: like putting meat in there anymore.

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00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: So that might be a good way microplastics shrinking your tain.

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00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: No, I just have a hard time getting every single

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00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: one to seal correctly, and then the meat doesn't last

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00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: as long compared.

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00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: To but your paper, and I feel like I don't

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00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: need to keep this conversation.

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, my license and and my hunter safety card in

1130
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 3: there with that stuff.

1131
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,919
Speaker 5: And I can see putting your tag in there, yeah

1132
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 5: tag in some states, but that they can't. You can't

1133
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 5: ding them on that.

1134
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I'm just making observations.

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00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: It's brilliant.

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00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 3: Probably probably compresses those game bags down nice, so they're

1137
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: taking up less space.

1138
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: In your path.

1139
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: But man, I'm weighing in. I'm going with the skull

1140
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: cleaning thing because I've used like a piece of coat

1141
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: hanger and oh yeah, I'm gonna try that.

1142
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: Here's why I'm going. Here's why I'm going. Brain yeah, slurry.

1143
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: I the kill kit thing. I like it, but it's

1144
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 2: a packaging scheme, Yes, not a scheme.

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00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 5: It's a packaging it's a packing strategy, yes, which is cool, ye,

1146
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 5: but it's a package.

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00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's all stuff you'd already think

1148
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: to bring, but here's how to.

1149
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you might have it in a little stuff

1150
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 3: said ching in a pocket and your backpackage, just a

1151
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: different way to do it.

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00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: So he's pitching us on how to pack it.

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00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 3: Yep.

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00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: The other guy with the brain slurry, that's a legit

1155
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 2: pain in the ass.

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00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 6: Messy.

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00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: So he's introducing a you know, all due respect, i've

1158
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: heard that before.

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00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: Well, I I it's makes it more efficient.

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00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: But he's introducing a whole concept yep. So I'm gonna

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00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: go with that.

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00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: And everyone's got a drill laying around.

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00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I've heard the the idea to

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: vaccial your food and everything if you're really trying to

1165
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: compact your backpack if you're going on a multi day

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00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: hunt or whatever. So that one wasn't new to me.

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00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: But using the tent steak on a drill for the

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00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: brain matter, that one was new to me. So I'm

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00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: going for the brain matter splatter.

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00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: All right, man, we got a winner.

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 4: Ryan, You're the winner.

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Speaker 3: Hey, congratulations, gratulations hard one, But Kevin, you still get

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00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 3: a calendar because your tip was pretty good.

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00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: Too hard one.

1175
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 3: So now we can jump ahead to the and Corey

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00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: those we'll get their contact and all that stuff to

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00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: get that stuff out. Oh for sure. Cool. All right,

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00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: we got a bonus hot tip for you today since

1179
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: I'll read it again a lot are you out there

1180
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 3: are going to get accused of abandoning your husbandly and

1181
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 3: fatherly duties. So we got a very special bonus hot

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: tip that we felt was worth its own segment. Let

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00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: a rip phill.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 9: My name's Ashley. We live in Wisconsin.

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00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 6: We're new to the area.

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00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 9: I'm a wife of a newish to hunting dad and

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00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 9: we listened to the podcast every now and again and

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00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 9: we thought we would give a hot tip per tip

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00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 9: off from the wife's perspective. If you need here's my tip.

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00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 9: If you need more time because you haven't filled your

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00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 9: tags yet, but you're worried that your wife will get

1193
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 9: mad because she's stuck alone with the kids again, Uh huh,

1194
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 9: here's my tip. It's five five tips to get your

1195
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 9: wife to be totally fine with you going back out

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00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 9: in the sand. Number one, get her coffee, Set her

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00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 9: up for success, Get her a coffee, clean the kitchen,

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00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 9: make lunch, plan for dinner like take out, take out

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Speaker 9: the meat to thaw. Plan for dinner, make lunch, get

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00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 9: her a coffee, clean the kitchen, and get a new

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00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 9: activity for the kids. Coloring books, new markers. Yes, you

1202
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 9: already have markers, but we like new ones, fresh ones.

1203
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 9: Activity for the cat, plan an activity for the kids,

1204
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 9: plan for dinner, make lunch, get her coffee, clean the kitchen.

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Speaker 9: She'll never be mad at you for going out again.

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Speaker 6: Gotten.

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Speaker 2: That's a good woman right there, man, because she's like

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01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: laying out her expectation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: No, that dude doesn't have to guess. Good point, person.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like, don't be a goober and

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01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: just leave without like doing what you're supposed to do.

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01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: Or or yeah, or you say, like I get it,

1214
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: this is annoying.

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 5: What could I do exactly like I get it, Like

1216
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 5: I could get the whole, like I could see from

1217
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 5: your perspective, this is like a big ass What can

1218
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 5: I do one short term yep, to help out?

1219
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: And what in long term? What can I do to

1220
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: to like a little payback?

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01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like you gotta be careful because

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01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 3: you like can't like get this thing where you like

1223
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: work yourself into a corner and you can't go Yeah.

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01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 5: Well, right, when his kids get a year after year

1225
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 5: after year, when his kids get older, though, here's his solution.

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Speaker 2: If this is the thing, this is the thing for

1227
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: young dads.

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Speaker 5: You, if you take all the kids with you, no

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01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 5: one will ever get mad exactly you.

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01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: You're you come home a hero every time.

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01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 3: And they don't have to be of hunting age.

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01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 5: No, right, If you take them all with you, you

1233
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 5: could be like, I'm taking the kids out and I'm gonna,

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01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 5: uh throw them out of a tree, have fun.

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01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 3: Yep.

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01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 2: It's like, if you take them all with you, no

1237
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: one is ever ever gonna get mad at you.

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can be preemptive about it. You could

1239
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: take them camping over the summer, like before hunting season,

1240
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: and give the spouse a break for a weekend. Sure,

1241
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: then you then you're ahead of the game.

1242
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 5: People love their kids, but there's a lot most people

1243
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 5: are like, dude, if you're gonna take them and go

1244
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 5: away for a couple of.

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01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: Days, please, Yes, then you don't have to worry about

1246
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: anyway being mad.

1247
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: But Ashley made some great points, so thanks for sharing. Ashley,

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01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: We're also going to give you one of the signed calendars.

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01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: Uh and and your husband could put that up in

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01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: the garage and like mark times when you should be

1251
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 3: taking care of the kids instead of you.

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01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: Coffee check, kitchen check, yep, markers check, lunch.

1253
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: Use that calendar the way it's supposed to be us

1254
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 3: meat thought.

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01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: I like that little detail.

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01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's a big one.

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01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: Break out that burger.

1258
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: Get that burger thought out.

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01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: Thanks Ashley, yep.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, Thanks everyone for joining. That's the end of this

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01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: week's show. We'll see you guys next week next Thursday

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01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 3: on October sixteenth, and everything's going to be live, so

1263
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 3: the chat room will be back and we can we

1264
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 3: can talk with you guys as we go. So thanks

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 3: everyone for tuning in.