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Speaker 1: Welcome to the pen ultimate episode of The Hunting Collective.
Speaker 1: I am as always been O'Brien and I'm joined in
Speaker 1: studio by Phil t engineer Phil. How are you, sir?
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that the pen ultimate episode is usually one
Speaker 1: of the best of a TV show, like a series
Speaker 1: or a season. Um, we'll see if that's the case here,
Speaker 1: you'd never know. It could be the second the best
Speaker 1: episode ever of this program right out. So strap in.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're in a place where there's
Speaker 1: any straps around, but get one and strap yourself to
Speaker 1: wherever you're sitting. I don't know, you know, don't move
Speaker 1: and lock in because you're about to get You're about
Speaker 1: to get regaled with one of light like one of
Speaker 1: the nation's most riveting coming of age tales, and that
Speaker 1: is the tale of Filthy Engineers First Turkey Hunt. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be I will say this, and I say much
Speaker 1: about what happens, other than to say it's a two parter.
Speaker 1: There are two parts. This is of course the first
Speaker 1: of two parts, and we will reveal at some point
Speaker 1: along the way whether Phil killed a turkey or not.
Speaker 1: But more importantly than that, a few days back, I
Speaker 1: shared a photo of Phil the Engineer on Instagram and
Speaker 1: Facebook where he was holding his turkey target. Now we'll
Speaker 1: get to what happened. How that turkey. It came to
Speaker 1: be full of tiny little holes. But Phil, the reaction
Speaker 1: was broad and it was interesting. People, you're a hero,
Speaker 1: you are an inspiration. People love you. Hundreds of comments
Speaker 1: poured in from across the world. They the globe. People
Speaker 1: love it. Man greatest, somebody's the greatest character arc of
Speaker 1: all time. Phil is way less of a nerd than
Speaker 1: I originally anticipated. Still stoked on him, though, hashtag legend.
Speaker 1: I've never I've never wanted someone I've never meant to
Speaker 1: shoot a turkey more than I want Phil to shoot
Speaker 1: a turkey. Good luck. Don't forget the t P Phil,
Speaker 1: just in case. It's a good poop callback. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: really is. It's a good it's a good call back
Speaker 1: to the show. A lot of good lucks, a lot
Speaker 1: of yeah boys, a lot of people talking about how
Speaker 1: you looked. Ah, what do you think about hundreds of
Speaker 1: people commenting on your looks as opposed to your voice
Speaker 1: because we did the voice face contest back in the infancy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of th HC. I totally understand the fascination because I've
Speaker 1: had the same experience. Yeah. Yeah, you you listen to
Speaker 1: a radio show or a podcast, and you haven't You
Speaker 1: just build up an image of somebody in your head
Speaker 1: and then you actually see them, and it's usually disappointing.
Speaker 1: It's This guy says, Phil looks like Steve and Yanni
Speaker 1: are his dad's. That was a good one, and I
Speaker 1: see it. I kind of see it. Phil looks a
Speaker 1: lot less nerdy than I imagine. That's a compliment. I
Speaker 1: imagine Phil is some nerdy early thirties chubby ginger with
Speaker 1: a beard. Do you think about that? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm offended for chubby gingers everywhere on their behalf. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing wrong with the chubby ginger support for
Speaker 1: those folks. So there there's a lot of people. Uh.
Speaker 1: This guy says, this is the first picture I've ever
Speaker 1: seen of Phil. Phil is not the character I drow
Speaker 1: up in my head. Well, people actually drew you up,
Speaker 1: and I don't think you look like what they drew
Speaker 1: the whole point of it. My favorite comment um was
Speaker 1: something along the lines of Phil looks less masculine than
Speaker 1: he sounds, and he doesn't sound very masculine. This guy said,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. He is like a small infant child,
Speaker 1: sweet boy. I hope he has fun in his first
Speaker 1: first time out. So thanks for all those comments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I could go on because there is hundreds of them.
Speaker 1: People from across the country sent us d m s.
Speaker 1: They sent us emails to t ac the meter to
Speaker 1: have wasting you well and hoping that you would get
Speaker 1: a turkey. So this is by far other than I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think this is by far the biggest
Speaker 1: thing we've done as a podcast, and that that it's
Speaker 1: the last thing we'll ever do, so why not be
Speaker 1: the biggest. People are into it, Phil, People they want it.
Speaker 1: Can you feel the pressure? I can feel it, but
Speaker 1: it's surprisingly not weighing on me as much as I
Speaker 1: thought I would. Know you were pretty I'm kind of
Speaker 1: brushing it off. Excuse me, I'm kind of brushing it off,
Speaker 1: But I don't mean that. I don't mean that I'm
Speaker 1: brushing off the compliments as well. I hear all the
Speaker 1: compliments and it's it's I want to thank you, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: because I I am. I am glad you're invested in
Speaker 1: my in my in my arc, in your character, but
Speaker 1: the greatest character arc of all time, which is essentially
Speaker 1: just hey, Phil, have you ever gone hunting? Nope, We're
Speaker 1: gonna take you hunting. And that was the ark. But
Speaker 1: people love it. Yeah, well that's it. If you stretch
Speaker 1: any small storyline now for two years, it seems like
Speaker 1: an epic tale. Exactly where we are now. We got
Speaker 1: a message from our friend Eric Hall. He had something
Speaker 1: to say to say something or signing of failt Engineering
Speaker 1: on Facebook that what's not a big siding? Yes, very rare,
Speaker 1: you don't see it often. His numbers going up. So
Speaker 1: looking forward to Field Turkey Hunt, the last two shows
Speaker 1: coming up. There kind of a build up to feel
Speaker 1: a Turkey Hunt being the last show. Yeah, that's it,
Speaker 1: He's right, The man is right, Yes, siting a filthy
Speaker 1: engineer like the big Foot, the lore of old Maybe
Speaker 1: you'll will once are the show is over. Your your
Speaker 1: legend will continue and people will continue to see you
Speaker 1: in places where you don't exist or maybe I will
Speaker 1: just retreat to the woods. Yeah, and a lot of
Speaker 1: check exactly, grow a beard, yeah, grow skip pop, we
Speaker 1: stashould come back. So let's let's lay out, Phil, what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do here. Uh, we have it. This is
Speaker 1: a lot of work to tell this story. And again,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, quite the build up. So we're going
Speaker 1: to tell the story and its totality. We're going to
Speaker 1: lean into a linear tale of one man and another
Speaker 1: man and a truck in the Turkey hun and yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like in some decoy and some
Speaker 1: decoys we could just list there in your truck, a
Speaker 1: cup of coffee. We're gonna lean into. We're gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the whole story, and we're just on a little
Speaker 1: bit different Phil and I have decided that we're going
Speaker 1: to play our audio and and and do some color
Speaker 1: commentary of what was happening at the time was happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do some live commentary with some probably minimal
Speaker 1: editing from me. I'm gonna I'm talking about I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about future me right now, several hours from now when
Speaker 1: I sit down edit this podcast. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna do a lot of editing. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna do it kind of on the fly here, yep.
Speaker 1: And if you don't like it, cancel us, get rid
Speaker 1: of us. It doesn't matter. We do whatever we want.
Speaker 1: At this point, we get the worst thing could happen
Speaker 1: has already happened. And so we're pretty much flying by
Speaker 1: the seat of our paints that we're weren't already before.
Speaker 1: As I've been saying, what kind of building a roller
Speaker 1: coaster while we're riding it? So this is this, this
Speaker 1: is Phil's first hunt hashtag if you're going to post
Speaker 1: about this online hashtag Phil's first bird, okay? Is that
Speaker 1: it was that the final hashtag on landed on Phil's
Speaker 1: first bird? Okay? Because I think you've gone through several
Speaker 1: of this. Have you seen the video that I took
Speaker 1: a slow a video of you jumping over Yes, I
Speaker 1: saw it before I came over here today. What do
Speaker 1: you do you have any of ficial comments about it?
Speaker 1: I look fantastic. I mean a lot of people, a
Speaker 1: lot of people love it, dude, A lot of people
Speaker 1: are into it. Do you want to tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about your strategy while jumping over this My
Speaker 1: first strategy was watching you so I can learn from
Speaker 1: your mistakes. And you you shorted it barely. I put
Speaker 1: a foot in the wall. Yeah, there was a foot
Speaker 1: in the water. If if, if you guys aren't haven't
Speaker 1: seen you gotta go to my Instagram. But any of
Speaker 1: B three or when I took a slow mo video
Speaker 1: of Phil leaping majestically in his new shnays boots, which
Speaker 1: we'll get to, yes, over this ditch that had filled
Speaker 1: with some runoff, so it's full of water, and at
Speaker 1: first Phil didn't know if he could make it over
Speaker 1: the dish, and I said, well, let me jump over
Speaker 1: first and then film you in slow moo for posting
Speaker 1: online later. So that's what we did, and it is
Speaker 1: it's pretty majestic, uh people. One guy said, it's like
Speaker 1: watching poetry. Such grace. I can't disagree. How are your
Speaker 1: a c L s feeling? Somebody wants to know My
Speaker 1: legs feel great to show you how how not in
Speaker 1: shape I am? I think I actually overextended my arm, somebody.
Speaker 1: My arm was sore for like a half hour after
Speaker 1: I made that jump. Somehow, don't know how, but that's
Speaker 1: how my body works, all right. Well, All the highlights
Speaker 1: from the hunt are going to be on my Instagram
Speaker 1: as you listen to this, they'll be there video B
Speaker 1: three oh one on Instagram, So you could see some
Speaker 1: of the visual highlights. But we have the audio highlights
Speaker 1: of this hunt. And let me just tell you a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff happened. A lot of things have happened,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna lay them out over the next two episodes,
Speaker 1: the final two episodes th HC. And I can't wait
Speaker 1: for you to see how it ends. Okay, Phil, you're
Speaker 1: ready to go, let's do it. Here we go. Now
Speaker 1: play some sort of awesome intro music right here. I
Speaker 1: believe in the Turkey and uh so we struck out.
Speaker 1: First thing we had to do was we had to
Speaker 1: strike out too what we'll call site in the shotgun,
Speaker 1: to pattern this shotgun. The weather be eighteen I that
Speaker 1: we had selected fulfilled for his first hunt. We went
Speaker 1: out to some local public land to site in this shotgun. Now,
Speaker 1: what happened on the way there is I think emblematic
Speaker 1: of this entire story. We didn't really get this on
Speaker 1: video or audio, but we're driving up a gravel road
Speaker 1: to this kind of what we'll call a public land
Speaker 1: shooting range close to to to my domicile here, and
Speaker 1: we're driving past a set of homes and there's kind
Speaker 1: of a rancher style home tucked in this little you know,
Speaker 1: the bosom of this litwer ridge. And in the yard
Speaker 1: is many things. Many things are there, rusty farm implements.
Speaker 1: There was chickens, a few chickens. It was not unlike
Speaker 1: some some places a hobbit would live. It was like
Speaker 1: tucked into a hillside, it really was, with a bunch
Speaker 1: of just animals and random stuff scattered, gentle smoke coming
Speaker 1: from the chimney um. And there in the yard was
Speaker 1: a turkey. First first first turkey sighting as a as
Speaker 1: a part of Phil's first hunt hashtag hashtag Phills first bird.
Speaker 1: The first turkey we saw was really emblematic of the
Speaker 1: rest of our journey. Let me try to describe this
Speaker 1: turkey to you, Phil, and you help me out here
Speaker 1: if I'm getting this wrong. This turkey. First picture some
Speaker 1: sort of goblin from the depths of Hades, and then
Speaker 1: a turkey, and then mix those two things together and
Speaker 1: that's what you get. This turkey could barely walk. It
Speaker 1: had maybe six or seven of its tail feathers. It
Speaker 1: could barely. It was. It was shaking uncontrollably. Its head
Speaker 1: was like the size of a cantalope. And it was
Speaker 1: just kind of like wandering around this yard like a
Speaker 1: zombie were somehow, but somehow it was. But it was
Speaker 1: walking like it could barely. Yes, if I had just
Speaker 1: punted it in the cloaka, it looked like it just
Speaker 1: it was in massive amounts of pain. It had like
Speaker 1: gyrating wing feathers, like a palsy of some kind. I'd
Speaker 1: like to think this turkey has had seen better days
Speaker 1: earlier in its life. I hope so. I hope it did,
Speaker 1: because it was. It was infirmed in a way that
Speaker 1: I've never seen any any wildly creature in my life,
Speaker 1: but we it was. It was. It was almost like
Speaker 1: a sign that this was going to be weird. But
Speaker 1: this tale, this coming of age tail, was just gonna
Speaker 1: be strange, and there's not a whole lot we can
Speaker 1: do about it. I've never seen a turkey like that.
Speaker 1: I got out my call, I hit the diagram a
Speaker 1: few times, and it let out this sad, dust filled
Speaker 1: gobble that could only be described as depressing. You could
Speaker 1: barely hear it and it was only ten yards away
Speaker 1: from the truck. So wherever that turkey is today, and
Speaker 1: it's probably right under that same tree he was. It
Speaker 1: is now the mascot for this whole two episode run.
Speaker 1: Sad as a mascot though it maybe you know, r
Speaker 1: I p that turkey because it's gonna die soon. I
Speaker 1: mean it's probably from natural causes or unnatural causes. I
Speaker 1: was looking around for like a power plant, a nuclear
Speaker 1: power plant, share like some some neon news was coming
Speaker 1: out of a pipe, and it was the turkey was
Speaker 1: eating it. There's this thing wearing an eye patch, like
Speaker 1: hasn't been shanked by one of these other turkeys. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget it as long as when I closed my
Speaker 1: eyes just now I can see it. I can see
Speaker 1: its face staring into my face. Um. Anyway, that's a
Speaker 1: I don't even think it had a beard. It was
Speaker 1: just it was a grotesque. It was just grotesque. So
Speaker 1: right into THHC at the Mediator dot com and name
Speaker 1: that turkey Skippy mc no beard, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: name that turkey, but he will be the mascot for
Speaker 1: the rest. We'll go back and give video because here
Speaker 1: he couldn't go far like physically he couldn't. He's there,
Speaker 1: he's got to think he roos in it. He can't
Speaker 1: fly up in a tree. He just lays down on
Speaker 1: the ground when he goes to sleep, just lays on
Speaker 1: the ground. Sayway, that's that's kind of my first and
Speaker 1: most searing memory from our journey, Phil, Yeah, was that
Speaker 1: we uh it was an omen an omen from the
Speaker 1: Turkey gods to watch the funk out. She was about
Speaker 1: to get western, Okay, and what happened after that it
Speaker 1: was completely unbelievable. No one would believe it, but you're
Speaker 1: about to hear it. So we moved past this mutant
Speaker 1: Turkey and shocked in all you know, kind of twitter
Speaker 1: painted a little bit, and I we move up to
Speaker 1: the shooting range. And the shooting range portion of this
Speaker 1: certainly was all about education, right Phil. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I I had never fired a shotgun before, so this
Speaker 1: was Yeah, this was it. So we get out there
Speaker 1: and we are preparing and I need to go through
Speaker 1: what the gun is, what it does. Imagine your thirty
Speaker 1: two three my age, Yeah, thirty, I am thirty thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it right on the first try. You're thirty,
Speaker 1: Your three year old man, you've done a lot of
Speaker 1: things your life, but you've never shot shotgun, you know,
Speaker 1: pulled the trigger. I got very into air soft in
Speaker 1: high schools. As far as that's as far as I got.
Speaker 1: I met, not yesterday or well yesterday, a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago, I met a fellow that had never tried pineapple.
Speaker 1: I've never had pineapple. To watch this human, this full
Speaker 1: grown adult human, eat this pineapple's amazing. So this is
Speaker 1: a lot what it was like for Phil. And so
Speaker 1: we get out there and um, I want to say,
Speaker 1: hilarity ensues, but it was pretty normal. And so here's
Speaker 1: here's me teach and Phil a little bit about the shotgun. Okay, Phil,
Speaker 1: are you ready, sir? Yes, I've had my my ice coffee.
Speaker 1: Of course, you've had your This is the this is
Speaker 1: what most people at the range do. They talk about
Speaker 1: their caffeinated beverages. Any anything, you want? Any questions before
Speaker 1: I go through the shotgun and task here? Uh not yet. No,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm ready to learn. I have some more Turkey
Speaker 1: specific questions for later, but right now I think I
Speaker 1: just need to like hold a gun in my hands.
Speaker 1: Probably all right, Well, here's the gun here. So this
Speaker 1: is a weather B eighteen. It's a semi drun. We
Speaker 1: gotta be honest. It was very windy. So we went
Speaker 1: into my truck and I didn't actually have the shotgun. No,
Speaker 1: I was my man the whole time, so just let's
Speaker 1: just keep going. It was sad. Uh. This thing that,
Speaker 1: this big piece in the back is the whole thing
Speaker 1: is the stock, Yes, a big silly And there's a
Speaker 1: recoil pad on that that helps to to cushion that
Speaker 1: recoil that you're gonna feel from the I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be the expert of experts here. I'm super worried that
Speaker 1: people we'll think that I don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're you're going over every little part of the gun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I was even reading off something on my phone.
Speaker 1: The shot when you pull the trigger, so there's the
Speaker 1: trigger guard. Put your finger right there. You see that
Speaker 1: it's totally never put your finger on the trigger and
Speaker 1: even inside that trigger guard until we're ready to go,
Speaker 1: all right, and then when here's the safety, so you
Speaker 1: can push it back and forth and see as as
Speaker 1: the action is open, you can see that there's you
Speaker 1: can push that back and forth and see safety was
Speaker 1: when the red indicators showing, and on safe is when
Speaker 1: the red indicators and here at the range, we won't
Speaker 1: do this in the field, but here in the range,
Speaker 1: when that safety clicks off, you just say fire in
Speaker 1: the hole, which means I'm preparing to shoot, which lets
Speaker 1: me know that you're getting ready to send some shots.
Speaker 1: So now you're educated, Phil, educated. I was holding the
Speaker 1: gun in my hand, yeah, inspecting all the parts you
Speaker 1: were showing me. It was kind of like an air gun.
Speaker 1: It's made of air. There you go. But we did
Speaker 1: we actually did later than you know, inspect. It's the
Speaker 1: magic of the magic of audio. Here. We're just letting
Speaker 1: you into the creative work that goes into the show
Speaker 1: like this. You should be grateful. And then was so
Speaker 1: honest with you. He's really he's really opening up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in these last episode and then you know, we did
Speaker 1: other stuff. Okay, it's it's it's getting a little window
Speaker 1: out here. We're out in them. We're on America's public lands.
Speaker 1: Obviously America's public lands. There'd be somewhere else. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show you what you're what you're doing here, Phil, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be shooting these federal TSS loads. These heavyweight t
Speaker 1: SS Sponsorler Tungsten super shot. These are three inch shells.
Speaker 1: They have nine shot and it's one and three year
Speaker 1: quarter ounce of shot inside of there. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: put these babies right in here, and then when we
Speaker 1: hit this button, it's gonna go. It's gonna be chambered right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be ready to fire. Okay, safety there like
Speaker 1: I showed you, and then this is the magazine or
Speaker 1: you'll be able to insert the extra shells that which
Speaker 1: will be cycled through when you pull the trick semi automatic. Okay,
Speaker 1: got it. Now onto the next thing. We recorded all right,
Speaker 1: eyes and ears safety, see, we're yes, we're doing it right.
Speaker 1: We made sure to about how far do you think
Speaker 1: that's your guests, Probably about fifteen yards? This turkey as
Speaker 1: a turkey's head. And you're gonna put the bed look
Speaker 1: down the barrel here real quick. You're gonna put that
Speaker 1: bead see the rip of the shotgun here. You're gonna
Speaker 1: bed that bead down in the ribs. So you just
Speaker 1: see like a half moon, and that bead is going
Speaker 1: to go right on the turkeys. Major curruncles are right
Speaker 1: in the middle of its neck. There. As you can see,
Speaker 1: there's a bull's eye on the target, and so you're
Speaker 1: gonna place that that bead right on top of that
Speaker 1: right and then you're gonna shoot him in the face. Good,
Speaker 1: So it's gonna go okay. Commentary Philip, No, it's a
Speaker 1: lovely day. Um. I couldn't ask for better, better weather,
Speaker 1: better situation. I'm excited. We're gonna we've got about We're
Speaker 1: gonna try it. We're gonna run through this once. Let's
Speaker 1: just let you feel it and then get your reaction,
Speaker 1: and then we'll start to look at accuracy and kind
Speaker 1: of play a little bit around what we need to
Speaker 1: do in the field. You were thrilled at this point,
Speaker 1: phil Yeah, Well, I mean, I'm gonna be honest, I
Speaker 1: was a little I mean, it was very much out
Speaker 1: of my element, so so you know, I was, I
Speaker 1: was I didn't really know what to expect, um, and
Speaker 1: I was just trying to take in what you were
Speaker 1: telling me. Yeah, I mean, I think all seriousness. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think being a mentor is about that feeling out process.
Speaker 1: Of course, we know each other from sitting around in
Speaker 1: the studio a lot of times, but those of you
Speaker 1: that are out there mentoring folks. You may not know them,
Speaker 1: or you may know them from other you know interactions.
Speaker 1: You may know him professionally even or from work. You
Speaker 1: may know from church. You may know him who knows
Speaker 1: you know, from the corner store, you don't know. Um,
Speaker 1: it's this going to the range of someone one is
Speaker 1: a good way to kind of set the precedent for
Speaker 1: how you're going to communicate, you know, whether you trust
Speaker 1: that person, whether you're really going to take on the
Speaker 1: mental roles like I'll handle the firearms, I'll make sure
Speaker 1: we're safe, or you're gonna see some trust over to
Speaker 1: that person that you're working with. And and these these
Speaker 1: early interactions are a way to kind of get to
Speaker 1: know each other but also to set a cadence because
Speaker 1: you have to to to do this successfully. To mentor
Speaker 1: someone successfully, you have to be able to communicate with
Speaker 1: them and understand them and they have to understand you. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of you know, even non verbal communication
Speaker 1: in the woods, a lot of whispering, a lot of
Speaker 1: fast action. And so this is to me, is like
Speaker 1: a good way to say, like, this is how we're
Speaker 1: going to communicate each other. That's how we're gonna be safe.
Speaker 1: This is this is setting a precedent for when we're
Speaker 1: out there, making sure we understand, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: the step by step process of how we're going to
Speaker 1: handle some of these more intricate actions out there in
Speaker 1: the field. So that that's my what I was, what's
Speaker 1: going through my mind, you know, to see how comfortable
Speaker 1: you are. I think immediately you were pretty comfortable with
Speaker 1: the weapon, like it wasn't something scary or you didn't
Speaker 1: feel like you were nervous. You were nervous. You want
Speaker 1: to be accurate, you wanted to do it right. But
Speaker 1: I don't think you were nervous at the idea of
Speaker 1: felt recoil, were you No? No? No, I mean I
Speaker 1: think you'll hear um. After you kind of gave me
Speaker 1: the go ahead to fire, there is a long gap.
Speaker 1: I was kind of I was really trying to like
Speaker 1: remember all the things you told me, like three points
Speaker 1: of contact, like where where's where's the where's the site pointing? Like?
Speaker 1: Am I level enough? Like am I holding the gun
Speaker 1: too close to my body and holding it too tighten?
Speaker 1: Or am I holding it too loosely? Like am I
Speaker 1: am leaning too far? Back to go forward and then
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff I was trying to process,
Speaker 1: like fire on the exhale, just like all that stuff,
Speaker 1: um and so like I think there was some trepidation there,
Speaker 1: but I was never I was never like uncomfortable or
Speaker 1: nervous like in that way. No. No, So here we go.
Speaker 1: All right, we got Phil all figured out here. He's up.
Speaker 1: We're using a hydro sled and a Caldwell shooting table
Speaker 1: out here in the middle of this kind of really
Speaker 1: flat aired public land. Peace. So you're all set up there,
Speaker 1: fils that feel pretty comfortable? It does, Yes, We've We've
Speaker 1: finagled it, and now I'm feeling pretty good. Okay, I
Speaker 1: forgot the target stand, so we're using a piece of
Speaker 1: wood and a bungee cord, much like his tradition in
Speaker 1: the Turkey uming space. Okay, I'm gonna load this up
Speaker 1: for you. Phil. As soon as this action closes, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be ready to fire. Now, when you're ready to shoot,
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is push that safety and then
Speaker 1: when you're ready to fire, put your finger inside the
Speaker 1: trigger guard and just tell me, you know, ready to go. Okay, sound.
Speaker 1: So here's the momentble pause like thing that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have my hand under the magazine like no, no, you're
Speaker 1: opening the further up on the flour ends. You can
Speaker 1: get it the better. If you hold it right here,
Speaker 1: you'll be just fine. And this is very natural. Well, well,
Speaker 1: like what's happening here, You're trying to get comfortable, I think,
Speaker 1: and you tell me if I'm wrong immediately when I
Speaker 1: load a shot shell and I say it's loaded, it's
Speaker 1: ready to go. But your mood changes a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, like your understanding now for a big loud
Speaker 1: thing could happen at any time. Yeah, well even just
Speaker 1: looking at that that the trigger and the trigger guard,
Speaker 1: how how close the trigger is to the back of
Speaker 1: that trigger guard area where I was like, oh, like
Speaker 1: this is like a hairpin, like you barely have to
Speaker 1: squeeze for it to go off. So it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know, um, like I told you I did.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't grow up with guns, so all
Speaker 1: all this stuff, you know, being handed a shotgun when
Speaker 1: you're thirty, it's it carries a little bit more weight
Speaker 1: and like the context as as as an adult, more
Speaker 1: than it would if you were you know, eight, years old,
Speaker 1: So like it just kind of you know, I was
Speaker 1: trying to be extra extra careful. Yeah, I mean all
Speaker 1: the time, we've talked about this and thought about this,
Speaker 1: and we talked about mentoring a lot on the show,
Speaker 1: and we've we've kind of thought through what this this
Speaker 1: would be. But this is one of the main points
Speaker 1: to remember if you are mentoring an emergent hunter is
Speaker 1: as a child, you're kind of you're pretty locked in
Speaker 1: on whoever it's mentoring you, whether it's your dad, you
Speaker 1: generally have a relationship with that person, right, uncle, father, friend, whatever, um.
Speaker 1: But you don't have a general like you have no
Speaker 1: general knowledge of the social and cultural impacts of firearms. Right.
Speaker 1: You also just don't have a general knowledge and ways
Speaker 1: people might die, all right, just don't sit around reading
Speaker 1: about gun accidents or reading about mass shootings. And so
Speaker 1: I'm I know that those things are baked in and
Speaker 1: I could I could tell, and I think this is
Speaker 1: is very normal that like when when the finality of
Speaker 1: that shot shell in the chamber and me saying like
Speaker 1: it's one you now be safe, do this, right, So
Speaker 1: you're immediately there's a question, Okay, what do I do?
Speaker 1: Where do I go elbows, hands, cheek. Where does this
Speaker 1: all go? You know? And that's pretty natural, right, I think?
Speaker 1: So there we go. Yeah, just don't get your This
Speaker 1: action is going to come back forward and this magazine
Speaker 1: will work in that action will work that next round
Speaker 1: into the chamber. But if you're there, you're You're just fine.
Speaker 1: And the goal here where this first shot was just
Speaker 1: to get just to understand how everything works. No expectation, no, no,
Speaker 1: tell me when you're ready to say, fire in the hole.
Speaker 1: Now we gotta, I gotta ready. I also didn't want
Speaker 1: to shoot the gun whenever anyone was driving by. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was totally fine. The road was completely and it's
Speaker 1: it was in a very safe zone. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you didn't want to. It was make I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if self conscious conscious is the word,
Speaker 1: but something about it just made me slightly uncomfortable. Here
Speaker 1: we go, see him say win driving out of Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead and get set up on it with that
Speaker 1: cheek on the weld. Don't put that figure near the
Speaker 1: trigger until you're set up and firm. Make sure this
Speaker 1: is firm against your shoulder. Okay, you're good, Go ahead
Speaker 1: and place that finger on the trigger and pull slowly
Speaker 1: back towards you. It's a lot of power, it is.
Speaker 1: You killed that turkey. All right, we're did that and
Speaker 1: he didn't make it well done? What are you think they're,
Speaker 1: Philly engineer. I that was exciting. Yeah, what a stupid
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have a whole lot of words
Speaker 1: right now. There. It was exciting a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on you to say pulling in things. Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: say I did not like you running out to the microphone.
Speaker 1: Shot shot the gun for the first time. I did that.
Speaker 1: Every time you shot, I think, yeah, probably. Um. We
Speaker 1: won't borrow you with the rest of the details, but
Speaker 1: it suffice to say, like we'll talk through a little
Speaker 1: bit of what happened, Phil, we that first shot would
Speaker 1: have been in every shot you I think you shot
Speaker 1: about five times or maybe seven. Think it was you
Speaker 1: shot one. I shot one just to see. Everything was
Speaker 1: a little bit low, a little bit to the left.
Speaker 1: I think the first three or four shots you would
Speaker 1: have killed the turkey. But you know, to understand, you
Speaker 1: know where we had about an eighteen yard target again
Speaker 1: a piece of wood bungee cord. It was kind of
Speaker 1: on the ground. We started you on a Caldwell shooting
Speaker 1: bench portable shooting bench that I have, and then a
Speaker 1: hydro slid, which is like a lead sled. It's a
Speaker 1: big shooting rest. So we started you there first, just
Speaker 1: so you can understand the mechanics of the situation and
Speaker 1: kind of mentally understand what's going to happen, just so
Speaker 1: we all had that mutual understanding. And then we did
Speaker 1: that a couple of times, took that away, brought in
Speaker 1: a Caldwell shooting bag, just so now you could feel
Speaker 1: the shotgun directly on your shoulder. We could talk about fit,
Speaker 1: we could talk about points of contact, we could talk
Speaker 1: about you know, really as as I think you could
Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit. What came to I
Speaker 1: think really help. He was like control of shotgun. Don't
Speaker 1: let the shotgun control you bear down, Like make sure
Speaker 1: you're on top of the gun, don't you know, don't
Speaker 1: let it um, don't let her buck. I guess it'll
Speaker 1: be a good way to say it. So talk to
Speaker 1: talk people through how that progression went, because we went
Speaker 1: from just trying to understand two, just trying to control
Speaker 1: the shotgun, but then trying to shoot for accuracy. Then
Speaker 1: we sat you up against the gate, you know, just
Speaker 1: like you would be up against the tree in the field,
Speaker 1: and did some more shooting. So talk to people through
Speaker 1: how that all in your mind went. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I felt like my aim, I mean behind the gun,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was aiming properly. Um And I
Speaker 1: was pretty consistent with where the shots are ending up,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't where I wanted them to end up.
Speaker 1: It was always just slightly low and slightly to the left.
Speaker 1: And um uh So then even even when I tried
Speaker 1: to kind of compensate for that, which I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was the right thing to do, um,
Speaker 1: it was still ending up kind of low and to
Speaker 1: the left. Um So, so I think wait, and then
Speaker 1: you came in and were like, well, I you was
Speaker 1: I specifically doing something. I think you were telling me
Speaker 1: that I maybe was kind of You're dumping the trigger
Speaker 1: a little bit, which is completely natural, which jump in
Speaker 1: the trigger just means you know, jerking it, pulling fat asked,
Speaker 1: not smoothly pulling through right, So as you jerk the trigger,
Speaker 1: that's going to create really a different kind of action.
Speaker 1: And so I just talked about let's focus on other
Speaker 1: things right, because there is there's a level at which
Speaker 1: when you're instructing someone or something like this, you can
Speaker 1: get in their heads if you give them too much instruction,
Speaker 1: you know, if you have too many things to think about.
Speaker 1: And then and so I could just to me, it
Speaker 1: was like, okay, let's let's because we talked about you know,
Speaker 1: getting that taking a breath in and then when as
Speaker 1: you let that breath out, just slowly pulling that trigger
Speaker 1: and the surprise shot. You know, we talked about that.
Speaker 1: But as I was watching, I'm like, well, I think
Speaker 1: if I just let's just talk, let's just get that
Speaker 1: gun seated correctly in your shoulder and just control that thing.
Speaker 1: They just just know that you're not you know, you're
Speaker 1: not waiting for the recoil, not worried about the trigger.
Speaker 1: You're just worried about controlling that shatkun. And then once
Speaker 1: we kind of got there, then you're right on, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think that's that was just you know, openly
Speaker 1: through that process, just watching and trying to understand, and
Speaker 1: there's never really no one way to do that. You
Speaker 1: just gotta interpersonal. You just gotta figure it out together.
Speaker 1: And again, if you're teaching somebody how to to go
Speaker 1: hunt for the first time, especially they're an adult. This
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. You have to like work with each other,
Speaker 1: work as a team. It's not it's not boss employee.
Speaker 1: It's two people trying to figure something out together. It's
Speaker 1: really what this is. I was happy by the end
Speaker 1: of the thing, and we got to go drive out.
Speaker 1: We got to drive by the mutant Turkey on the
Speaker 1: way back out. That's right, say goodbye, say goodbye, goodbye,
Speaker 1: mutant Turkey, goodbye forever. So we when we were driving
Speaker 1: out past the mutant Turkey, we did a little recording
Speaker 1: just to talk about in the moment. So let's see
Speaker 1: what you said. And you know, in reflection, because I
Speaker 1: do not remember anything nice. That's what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: I don't remember eating. So it's good. It's like, this
Speaker 1: is a fun way to play it out. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: not good for the audience, but for us, it's fun. Okay, Phil, Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh all right, last shot he blew the turkey's head off.
Speaker 1: Feeling good about that. Yes, it was a good note
Speaker 1: to go out on. My best shot was my last shot. Um,
Speaker 1: I just gotta remember to kind of you were telling
Speaker 1: me to bear down a little bit, keep that gun tight,
Speaker 1: tight to my my my shoulder, and uh and aim
Speaker 1: a little higher. I guess that was kind of what
Speaker 1: I did on that last last shot. So well, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's it, man, That's why you come out here so
Speaker 1: you can learn a little bit and experience it. And
Speaker 1: if you all but one of your shots, you would
Speaker 1: have killed the turkey. So for your first time really
Speaker 1: doing this, that's that's like I said, I'm not worried
Speaker 1: at all. I have no concerns about the turkeys and
Speaker 1: what they'll do after Philly Engineer pulls the trigger, except
Speaker 1: the real ones will be like presumably walking around and moving,
Speaker 1: so that's that'll be another wrinkle. But I think I
Speaker 1: think I'm ready. I think you're ready to what questions
Speaker 1: you have about actual turkey hunting itself. It's kind of
Speaker 1: going over it on the show a bunch of times.
Speaker 1: But do you have any questions about like the scenario
Speaker 1: for the morning? Yeah, I think so. I mean, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna set up decoys, he said a twenty yards away.
Speaker 1: Is there a specific moment that the turkey that will
Speaker 1: the will the turkey be doing something specific when like
Speaker 1: when it's when it's strutting or try and check out
Speaker 1: the decoys? Am I waiting for it to kind of
Speaker 1: stop and and you know, plant for a second before
Speaker 1: I take the shot? I guess, I guess what's the
Speaker 1: opportune moment to actually take the shot other than having
Speaker 1: a clear sightline and and you know, knowing the target
Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah, so it all depends on how it
Speaker 1: happens for your first turkey hunt. If it doesn't go
Speaker 1: the way we wanted to go, we're just not gonna
Speaker 1: shoot like that. You know. If if he comes in
Speaker 1: he gets nervous and starts running around the circles and
Speaker 1: looks like he starts putting and looks like he wants
Speaker 1: to roll out, we're just gonna let him go. You know,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna rush anything. We're not gonna be unethical.
Speaker 1: We're not going to force a shot if we don't
Speaker 1: need to. So the perfect scenario is when we set
Speaker 1: these decoys up, we're gonna set them up in such
Speaker 1: a way that he has to come where we'll set
Speaker 1: up I know, this little meadow where we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: We're to set up the decoys where he basically in
Speaker 1: almost all scenarios, probably nine out of the ten scenarios
Speaker 1: where a turkey might approach, He's gonna have to come
Speaker 1: past us to get to the decoys. Okay, and for
Speaker 1: a for a myriad of reasons, but really because I
Speaker 1: want him to be focused on the decoys and walk
Speaker 1: and looking towards the decoys. And we're not on the
Speaker 1: other side of those decoys, right, So we're gonna set
Speaker 1: up so he has to come past us. So generally,
Speaker 1: once it wants a full strut turkey or a gobbler
Speaker 1: or you know, any turkey that's interested in decoys, once
Speaker 1: they get full lock in on on a decoy, they
Speaker 1: want to come. And I'm not gonna say you can
Speaker 1: almost do You can't do anything, but you can move
Speaker 1: around a little bit, you can adjust a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean people, you know, in those situations draw a bow.
Speaker 1: So I have a full draw on a bow. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of motion that you all need to have.
Speaker 1: So when that turkey comes in, you're gonna be set
Speaker 1: up already like we just worre. You'll be sitting on
Speaker 1: against the tree, you'll have three points of contact, you'll
Speaker 1: be ready to go. You'll be putting that site picture
Speaker 1: in your mind and getting ready to literally just click
Speaker 1: the safety off and when I tell you to shoot,
Speaker 1: you let it go. What you're looking for turkey wise,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things we can do. He's in
Speaker 1: full strut, his his feathers kind of fluff up right,
Speaker 1: his his body kind of blows up, he lifts his wings,
Speaker 1: his tail fan is kind of up in the air,
Speaker 1: and his head is tucked into his body, right, And
Speaker 1: so it's not a full you know that that target
Speaker 1: we're just shooting at is just a full turkey's head,
Speaker 1: and that's it in that case, when his head is
Speaker 1: tucked into his body. Certainly I've shot turkeys like that.
Speaker 1: What I would would like to do is I'll probably
Speaker 1: throw out a few clucks or just like one noise
Speaker 1: to get him to poke his head up, and then
Speaker 1: I'll tell you to kill him. So when he puts
Speaker 1: his head up to look around, like what was that,
Speaker 1: then you have a full clear picture of that turkey,
Speaker 1: hopefully a silhouetted head just like you had in that target.
Speaker 1: And so that's what we're looking for now. If we
Speaker 1: don't get that, if he's coming to the decoys, he
Speaker 1: sees something weird and he skirts so and he's around
Speaker 1: it like thirty or forty yards and he just won't
Speaker 1: come in. We can talk about it. At that point,
Speaker 1: I'll say you comfortable, Like thirty yards, I think you
Speaker 1: can kill him, Like, are you comfortable? And in the
Speaker 1: first time we go out like air on the side
Speaker 1: of caution, air on the side of thinking it through.
Speaker 1: And I will certainly tell you when I think that
Speaker 1: you are good to go. That doesn't that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: mean you have to follow that order, like you can
Speaker 1: judge it for yourself. But I'll let you know when
Speaker 1: I think you're good to go. But if the if
Speaker 1: the turkey is in the decoys, if he is making
Speaker 1: contact with the decoys, if he's doing a dance with
Speaker 1: with where we set our decoys up, he'll be killable
Speaker 1: range pretty shotgun. So that's really really what the consideration
Speaker 1: is in terms of effective range and what we really
Speaker 1: want to see. There is there is oh lord, there's
Speaker 1: the chis. Those are those are farm turkeys. We I
Speaker 1: don't even understand what to do with this turkey. That
Speaker 1: is the craziest looking turkey that I've ever seen. Dude,
Speaker 1: It's like oh man, that is the wildest. I gotta
Speaker 1: keep my phone out. I don't know what to say
Speaker 1: about it. It's like mutant turkey. All right, that's it,
Speaker 1: Oh mutant turkey, right you once but again, I hope
Speaker 1: for everybody's tracking here, I know that this is These
Speaker 1: are the essential parts, you know, of of mentoring someone.
Speaker 1: These are not the exciting parts, but they are the
Speaker 1: essential parts of of like I said, getting to know someone,
Speaker 1: having them, getting to know you, you know, articulating yourself
Speaker 1: in a way that they can understand. And also, hopefully,
Speaker 1: Phil I made you feel like you could ask questions
Speaker 1: and there was no dumb question hopefully. Uh yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: And one thing you just said a few minutes ago,
Speaker 1: it's about hell not you don't want to try to
Speaker 1: overload someone with information. I never got that at all.
Speaker 1: You kind of just let me feel it out through
Speaker 1: in a tip here and there. But it was never
Speaker 1: sort of like do this, do this, do this, do this,
Speaker 1: because if if you if you had done that, I
Speaker 1: would have kind of probably walked shut down a little bit.
Speaker 1: I've been too worried about screwing up. So yeah, So
Speaker 1: now we're headed out hunting the next day, so a
Speaker 1: spot that I'd been and never killed a turkey, talked
Speaker 1: it up a lot. This is it. This is the
Speaker 1: moment that all of all of my talking and just
Speaker 1: grandeur about turkey hunting was going to come to fruition.
Speaker 1: There was gonna be gobbles everywhere. It would be an
Speaker 1: early morning, just crisp morning birds everywhere. You get to
Speaker 1: see that natural world come to life in the springtime.
Speaker 1: You get to just feel the energy of the turkey woods.
Speaker 1: And this was in my mind what was going to happen,
Speaker 1: and that we were going to have this indoctrination into
Speaker 1: this cult like mentality. Phil will is finally gonna be
Speaker 1: a part of the tent legion. Okay, fail, what do
Speaker 1: you think, buddy, h it's not it's not too cold,
Speaker 1: which is great. That's a good commentary, first thought. Wom
Speaker 1: in Montana. Yeah, that's a good thing. Well, we're going
Speaker 1: right over here. Okay, there's a river which will go
Speaker 1: un named, that goes obviously right here, and there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of good roots and trees right on the river.
Speaker 1: The situation is we gotta go about quarter of a
Speaker 1: mile to get to where I think they'll be and
Speaker 1: listen for him to be goblin in the tree. Big
Speaker 1: problem here is they'll be in a tree of the
Speaker 1: time on private land, so we gotta it sounds like
Speaker 1: a turkey and have big plastic things that looks like
Speaker 1: turkeys and get him to come to us on the
Speaker 1: public which is pretty common. So it's not academic. I've
Speaker 1: never killed a turkey in here before, but I've been
Speaker 1: on him every single time i've been here. So okay,
Speaker 1: we'll stop there. That's interesting commentary by me. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. Phil. I will give you a compliment. Okay, ready,
Speaker 1: thanks man. You were you were very punctual turkey hunter. Like,
Speaker 1: you don't know how annoying it is for someone not
Speaker 1: to be punctual and fly down situation. Okay, good. You
Speaker 1: were flawless the entire time you were on point. You
Speaker 1: were very willing, you were excitable. I think I feel
Speaker 1: like your number was pretty high by the time that,
Speaker 1: like we were talking strategy here at the truck. Hi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, mainly because I was just I was just thrilled.
Speaker 1: I was spring time in Montana can be a fickle bastard.
Speaker 1: It could be a bit, it can be it can
Speaker 1: be a foot of snow. It can be pouring rain,
Speaker 1: it could be lovely, it could be very windy, which
Speaker 1: it usually is. Um but these that first morning was
Speaker 1: just it was perfect. It was it was perfect, and
Speaker 1: so I was just din't agree, you know, I set
Speaker 1: my alarm, woke up. I was, I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I was. I was ready to go. And then when
Speaker 1: I stepped out of my car in that in that
Speaker 1: uh that a lot we were in. It just it
Speaker 1: just felt I was. I was looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: I was ready for the day. It felt good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I build it up in my own mind as well,
Speaker 1: and it felt good. I was ready for that first gobble.
Speaker 1: I was ready to like put my arm in the
Speaker 1: air and celebration the first time we heard a gobble,
Speaker 1: and to know where these turkeys are, make a plan
Speaker 1: and show you kind of at least the interaction, right,
Speaker 1: the game of cat and mouse. Yeah right, we were
Speaker 1: gonna have a nemesis to key by the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I thought. And again, a lot of build
Speaker 1: up here, A lot of pressure, a lot of build up,
Speaker 1: A lot of pressure on me to to create something here,
Speaker 1: to to show Phil exactly what hunting is and what
Speaker 1: it's like. And I put a lot of pressure on myself. So, uh,
Speaker 1: a lot of things happen, you know, and in hunting,
Speaker 1: we were heading out and then my kind of my
Speaker 1: fatherly notion is to make sure that I have everything first,
Speaker 1: and then to make sure Phil has everything he needs.
Speaker 1: We got decoys, we got shotgun, we got calls, get
Speaker 1: everything we need. And then I checked one last thing.
Speaker 1: Phil forgot his license in the truck. We're going back.
Speaker 1: It's only we only got fifty yards from Okay, he
Speaker 1: forgot his license. Fine, it happens to the best of us.
Speaker 1: It was where it was in your backpack? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was in my backpack. I didn't I remember to
Speaker 1: grab it in the morning. Yeah that was good, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: big lesson. Big lesson. Also to to go back a
Speaker 1: couple of steps Phil when buying his license. This is
Speaker 1: something everybody should know. Like in the state of Montana,
Speaker 1: you can print out your license or they'll mail you
Speaker 1: the carcass tags. There's an actual license itself and then
Speaker 1: a carcass tag which when you fill your tag, you
Speaker 1: notch it and that becomes the thing you attached to
Speaker 1: the carcass hence the term carcass tag. Phil got his
Speaker 1: license the night before the hunt, which is always what
Speaker 1: I see most commonly people tend to do when it
Speaker 1: is over the counter. He gets his license online and
Speaker 1: then at the end, what happens phil you get you
Speaker 1: get Twitter pay? Did you get confused? To ask you
Speaker 1: a bunch of questions. One of the questions the bottom
Speaker 1: was because I had already I had already printed my license,
Speaker 1: and then there was one more step where it was like,
Speaker 1: would you like to print your carcass tags now or
Speaker 1: have f WP mail them to you? And just I, obviously,
Speaker 1: if I had spent ten seconds thinking about it, I
Speaker 1: would have thought, well, I need I'm going hunting tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm going to knee these carcass tags as soon as possible.
Speaker 1: But just I just was like check marks, I just
Speaker 1: mailed me. I was not thinking. And then as soon
Speaker 1: as like five minutes later, I kind of I was.
Speaker 1: I had one of those moments, just like something went
Speaker 1: off in the back of my head like, ah, maybe
Speaker 1: I should call Ben and see if there's a problem.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's gonna be a problem and you're
Speaker 1: gonna need those. But luckily Ben made some phone calls.
Speaker 1: I was able to go to the local sportsman's warehouse,
Speaker 1: and they could not have been lovelier. They were very
Speaker 1: lovely to me on the phone. I called him, I said,
Speaker 1: I have this fellow and they said, is it a boy?
Speaker 1: I said, no, it's a man. It's a fellow. It's
Speaker 1: a fellow man. She said, is this a child? I
Speaker 1: said no, it's a man. His first hunt and he
Speaker 1: needs a license. So they took care of you, and
Speaker 1: then now we resume our adventure. The one thing about hunting,
Speaker 1: at least at my case, it's really about forgetting things
Speaker 1: and then remembering them. We're losing things and then finding them.
Speaker 1: Were wearing thousands of dollars of gear sponsor, and obviously
Speaker 1: we need that. We wouldn't be able to fold this turkey.
Speaker 1: Were about to go find that stage advice fill you
Speaker 1: remember that for next time, So off we go. The
Speaker 1: idea was to hit up a little clearing, a little
Speaker 1: pocket amidst the brush in this riparian zone and listen
Speaker 1: in glass. We were pretty early again, we were probably
Speaker 1: thirty five minutes before fly down, so we had plenty
Speaker 1: of time, and that was by design. We had plenty
Speaker 1: of time to get in there. Here the turkeys get
Speaker 1: set up do whatever we needed to do to draw
Speaker 1: them for what I thought would be from private onto public,
Speaker 1: Like this is the game. I'm pretty sure we're gonna play, um,
Speaker 1: and then just all hell broke loose? See amazing? Do
Speaker 1: you guys hear any gobbles? Well, Phil, we've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of birds this morning, your first morning turkey hunting,
Speaker 1: but no turkeys right as far as I know, no,
Speaker 1: And by as far as I know, I mean I
Speaker 1: I ask you and you say no. Yeah, We're standing
Speaker 1: in a spot where, Um, I've been haunted. I've never
Speaker 1: shot out to turkey here, but I've hunted it by
Speaker 1: my six or seventh time being in here hunting, I think,
Speaker 1: And I've never not heard of turkey on the roost.
Speaker 1: And it is just about fly down here in another
Speaker 1: five minutes or so. Now we have not heard a
Speaker 1: peep from a turkey. It's very demoralizing because it's kind
Speaker 1: of like, Wow, is you gonna go to this spot
Speaker 1: where there's turkeys in there? You know, as a turkey
Speaker 1: hunter you have certain spots, Phil where you're basically like, yep,
Speaker 1: at least we're gonna get some action there. Well, Phil,
Speaker 1: this is this is when you started a spiral. I
Speaker 1: spiraled so quickly were it wasn't even fly down yet,
Speaker 1: But I was wrold at this point. I was not
Speaker 1: as bummed out as you, because I think you had
Speaker 1: obviously had more expectations than I did. But I was
Speaker 1: expecting to hear a turkey. A turkey. We heard no turkey, none,
Speaker 1: not a turkey, no, knowing that there were turkeys there,
Speaker 1: like I like the way that this sets up. Their
Speaker 1: turkeys either fly across a river to go, which they
Speaker 1: will do, but they I knew that. I know there's
Speaker 1: turkeys here. They're just not goblin. And as we said earlier,
Speaker 1: it's a fine morning. There's no excuses, lovely, lovely morning.
Speaker 1: No wind, little to no wind, probably eight to fifty
Speaker 1: degrees right around fly down. And this is like prime time.
Speaker 1: We have done everything right. You you are punctual. We've
Speaker 1: we've trained, we've got the shotgun, and we've talked about scenarios.
Speaker 1: We've got our decoys, we've got thousands of dollars of gear,
Speaker 1: and here we are the precipice of greatness. And the
Speaker 1: turkeys aren't gobbling. No, there's nothing that we can do
Speaker 1: to make them gobble. Did I make noises at him. Phil, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: all kinds, all kinds of noises. Listen, and I've I've
Speaker 1: been lucky enough to be to have been exposed to
Speaker 1: and meet all kinds of incredible turkey collars. I saw
Speaker 1: a bunch of at and n W t F. There
Speaker 1: was like there was a g D competition. I saw
Speaker 1: people there, competition. You sounded you sounded great. You were calling,
Speaker 1: You're doing all all kinds of clucks. You you broke
Speaker 1: out the crow call, trying to get them too, shock shot, gobble, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 1: Nothing happened on the first Phil's first day of not
Speaker 1: not like, oh did you did you have one of
Speaker 1: It's far nothing, not a single one, nothing, And there
Speaker 1: you know, what were we gonna do? There was nothing
Speaker 1: we could do. It was pure and we've been hunting
Speaker 1: for forty eight minutes and it was pure desperation. At
Speaker 1: that point, I thought my entire life to that point
Speaker 1: was worthless, and that these two years of hunting, of
Speaker 1: knowing Phil and hunting and convincing him to go hunting,
Speaker 1: was going to be in vain HM. Tune in next
Speaker 1: time to hear what happened. In Part two of the
Speaker 1: Coming of Age, tail of Phil t Engineer. Any parting
Speaker 1: shots Phil before we head to the final episode. Cliffhanger. Wow,
Speaker 1: I just want to ask you how this feels. You're
Speaker 1: setting up the final episode of The Hunting Collection, fucking
Speaker 1: with a fucking with the listeners a little bit. We
Speaker 1: can tell the whole story if we wanted to, but
Speaker 1: we're not gonna tell you the whole story. It's a cliffhanger.
Speaker 1: Come on, we didn't hear any turkeys the first morning.
Speaker 1: Eventually we heard turkeys. I can tell you that. Whoa
Speaker 1: find out next time on The Hunting Collective. Say bye Phil,
Speaker 1: goodbye Clean. You're gone to your bowl where the hunt
Speaker 1: collected show and calling hunters new and all the hun
Speaker 1: collected show working pick and shuttle or working ben in hand.
Speaker 1: We call regate nice and over. I'm the land. We're focused.
Speaker 1: We're just living for the searching, dreaming of the fire
Speaker 1: and saltic gilburn Bo. We ain't coming by to heallenge
Speaker 1: colden Lane taking it so so we can shooes right. Clean,
Speaker 1: You're gone to your bowl where the hun clegged show,
Speaker 1: calling hunters new and all. The ain't no cold I
Speaker 1: am told