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Speaker 1: No, this is gonna be I'm not You.

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Speaker 2: Know, you guys are radio professional. Some of you remember

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Speaker 1: Last time we were here, we were talking about the

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Speaker 1: pots on the board. We love pots, geometers, potentiometers, and

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Speaker 1: isn't the potentiometer you mean a resistor, you mean a

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Speaker 1: on fire of late. So if you see smokes, that's

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Speaker 1: after we moved here. Yes, yeah, it's all new. We

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Speaker 1: downgraded a good idea. Bill Nye is here. We're here

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to that in the moment. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is a reason to celebrate. I'll tell you why. Bill.

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Speaker 1: Last time you were with us, we were in our

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Speaker 1: other studios and Gandhi your biggest fan of the world,

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Speaker 1: that's like she had COVID scare. Yes, yes, absolutely, we

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Speaker 1: But now you're fine. Yes, all over you please exhale over,

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Speaker 2: Bill and I on the so you guys, she has

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Speaker 2: And on this side of it, it says science. It's

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love you, man. That is what they say.

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Speaker 1: That is Gandhi on a cracker. She is all science.

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Speaker 1: And everything in our world is science. The doorbell you ring.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the radio you listen to, right, the broadcast from

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Speaker 1: Wave on the beach science. Yes, beautiful sunsets. Yes, it's lovely.

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Speaker 2: Yes. And by the way, what's the role of Congress?

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Speaker 2: Article one? In the US Constitution Article one, Section eight,

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Speaker 2: by faking it? No, it's figured out back to you.

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Speaker 1: So The End is nine? Could we see another season

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Speaker 2: Big ideas, big ideas for the next six disasters.

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Speaker 2: Surface on Well, there's a lot of things can go

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Speaker 3: Yes, back to you, So, speaking of technologies, do you

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Speaker 3: I'd be okay giving that up if the robots didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but keep in mind, have you ever traveled in

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Speaker 3: We cannot figure it out for the life.

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Speaker 2: Of no, because they're live humans talking right this To

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Speaker 1: Seriously, that that part of AI will actually backfire and

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Speaker 2: Well, or you'll get more of a human reaction if

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Speaker 1: We advocate for.

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Speaker 2: Space missions because space brings out the best in us.

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Speaker 2: We solve problems that have never been solved before.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, We have time for one more question.

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Speaker 1: I know you have a list. Still have time after all,

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Speaker 1: we really don't, but we will make time because these

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Speaker 1: are This is a Gandhi ghosts.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this one for Nate. We have questions

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Speaker 3: about the dinosaurs. How do we know that they look

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Speaker 3: like what scientists are telling us?

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Speaker 1: They look like. We do our best.

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Speaker 2: So when I was young, dinosaurs did not have feathers, right,

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Speaker 2: ancient dinosaurs.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: So people have looked at it really, really carefully with

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Speaker 2: these extraordinary microscopes and.

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Speaker 1: Seeing the little the feather holders.

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Speaker 2: One of those they have a great name, ferals something

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Speaker 2: like that. I'm not a biologist, not a paleontologist, but

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Speaker 2: I've been around them, so Anyway, it's now pretty well

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Speaker 2: established that dinosaurs all had feathers.

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Speaker 1: All of them. Yeah, Sea, Our problem was this, they

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Speaker 1: have these specials. What's the special that we've seen the

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Speaker 1: name of prehistoric planets? And so the guy can think

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Speaker 1: it's not fact based, but what he'll say the dinosaur

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Speaker 1: wakes up early and stretches his long arms and gets

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Speaker 1: a little a little upset at the thought of what's

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Speaker 1: about to occur.

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Speaker 2: How the hell do they know? That storytelling from the

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Speaker 2: Writer's Guild was actually on Discovery Chanel maybe not.

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Speaker 1: No years ago.

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Speaker 2: That was Lisa, when I was first doing Discovery Channel.

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Speaker 2: They were not big fans of the unions. But that's

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Speaker 2: back to you. I don't know what goes.

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Speaker 1: On around The dinosaur is triggered emostly because of the

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Speaker 1: pollen he's now Inhaly. How do they know that? They

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Speaker 1: don't know that they're like modern birds. They do kind

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Speaker 1: of know that.

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Speaker 2: You guys were talking about the wolves run their circles

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Speaker 2: to bat matt down the grass. Yeah sure, okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: see here's the thing in evolution, everybody, the troubling thing.

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Speaker 2: You only have to be good enough. This whole idea

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Speaker 2: when we're using twenty first century language to interpret nineteenth

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Speaker 2: century language. Charles Darwin famously said survival of the fittest.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't mean the organisms that did the most

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Speaker 2: sit up or push ups or something crunches. It meant

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Speaker 2: fit in the best. So the organisms that fit in

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Speaker 2: the best survive. So there's nothing in the dogs that

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Speaker 2: they circle and matt down the grass that that doesn't

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Speaker 2: kill them. So the circling and matting down the grass

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Speaker 2: is still in there, and it's just one of those things.

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Speaker 2: And so there's nothing in evolution that's like makes people

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Speaker 2: smarter smarter, that's not entirely true. Smarter people might have

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Speaker 2: a better chance of surviving, but people who aren't resistant

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Speaker 2: to germs, they don't. They're much worse off than smart people. Wow, no,

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Speaker 2: you've got to be germs are apparently the problem that's

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Speaker 2: your big enemy as a big animal is germs and parasites.

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Speaker 2: And that is why everybody the best theory, the best idea. Uh,

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Speaker 2: germs and parasites are the best idea? Or why we

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Speaker 2: have sex.

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Speaker 1: With thats I thought it was. I was triggered because

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Speaker 1: I looked down at my cocksacks and it makes me

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Speaker 1: miss my tail.

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Speaker 2: So that's the thing. You can walk around with tailbones

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Speaker 2: and they don't kill you. Right, So there's no evolutionary

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Speaker 2: reason to eliminate the tailbone. So that, at least so

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Speaker 2: far the whole thing is. It's not top down. Evolution

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Speaker 2: is not designed. There's not a designer setting this thing

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Speaker 2: up and then making things fit together. It came bottom up.

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Speaker 1: And this is why we want to go to Mars.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, so near as anybody can tell, Charles Darwin Edgar,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Wallace, what's his friend?

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Speaker 2: I'm under pressure man, that guy Alan Wallace dog on it.

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Speaker 2: They both realized that humans, everybody on Earth, oak trees,

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Speaker 2: see the whole kitten, even my old boss, came from

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Speaker 2: a common ancestor. It was a common living thing three

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Speaker 2: point seven or so billion years ago. And so Mars,

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Speaker 2: smaller than the Earth, cooled off faster than the Earth,

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Speaker 2: got an atmosphere, it got an ocean about a billion

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Speaker 2: years before Earth. Did life start on Mars. Mars gets

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Speaker 2: hit with impact tours all the time. Did something hit Mars?

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Speaker 2: And then who accept in outer space there's no sound,

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Speaker 2: it would just be landed here on Earth. And you

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Speaker 2: and I are descendants from Martians. And so when we

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Speaker 2: go to Mars and find evidence of living things or

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Speaker 2: some thing still living in the slush, the salty slush

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Speaker 2: under this Martian sand near the Martian equator, and we

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Speaker 2: find those things, did they have DNA or not? Because

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Speaker 2: if they have DNA, that means we probably came from Mars.

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Speaker 2: And we can investigate this for less than a single

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Speaker 2: cup of coffee per taxpayer per year. It's just one

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Speaker 2: more thing we do with our intellect and treasure as

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Speaker 2: a scientific literate society. We try to learn more about

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Speaker 2: our place and space to answer the two big questions.

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Speaker 2: The two big questions are are we alone as you

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Speaker 2: were asking earlier, and then fundamentally.

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Speaker 1: Where did we come from? Wow? Whose idea was all this?

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Speaker 1: Don't we need to know? We need to know? I

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Speaker 1: think we do need to know. Backarry dot Org, would

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Speaker 1: you please come back and say things? Yes, Bill, night,

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Speaker 1: the end is night. We want more. Turn it up loud,

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