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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: show on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: And well it is the Monday after and the smoke

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Speaker 3: is kind of s cleared and settled.

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Speaker 2: Here from the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, Matt and

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Speaker 2: the Steelers draft.

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Speaker 3: The further we get away from it, the better it looks.

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Speaker 3: And it looks pretty good on Saturday. Look good Friday,

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Speaker 3: look good Thursday. I mean it's it just looked good.

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Speaker 1: And I base that off of all the conversations you

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Speaker 1: and I have had in the drive leading up to it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are we true experts? Do we know these

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Speaker 1: young men? Can we predict the future? Do we have

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Speaker 1: a crystal ball? Of course not, but these were if

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Speaker 1: if you told us two weeks ago, this is these

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Speaker 1: are the players the Steelers would end up with in

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Speaker 1: this draft class and they didn't trade any future capital

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Speaker 1: or anything.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Matt, we kind of did tell you these were

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Speaker 3: the guys, yeah, because we talked about other than the

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Speaker 3: seventh rounder. This is the last Bickt Spencer Anderson right.

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Speaker 3: We talked about Broderick Jones, the first round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: We talked about Joey Porter and Keanu Bent in the

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Speaker 3: second round draft picks. We talked about Darnell Washington. We

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Speaker 3: talked about Nick Herbig. We talked about Corey Trice the

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Speaker 3: seventh round pick, the first seventh round pick. These guys

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Speaker 3: were all players that we had not just talked a

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Speaker 3: little about. For the most part, we had talked a

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Speaker 3: lot about these guys.

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Speaker 1: And they often ended up on our team when we

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Speaker 1: mocked them, not just here and there, and we did

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Speaker 1: plenty of mocks, so there's plenty of chances for players

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Speaker 1: to land on our team. But they were targets of ours.

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Speaker 1: Makes me feel kind of smart, and where I was

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Speaker 1: going it was I can't believe they land and that

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Speaker 1: as many targets as they did, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe there's an injury to play with Trice in Washington

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Speaker 1: that helps things, and certainly there was. There's always a

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Speaker 1: little bit of luck er bad luck involved too that

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Speaker 1: the board fell well for them, but boy, they took

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Speaker 1: great advantage of it. And it's not like these were gifts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they had to figure out their strategy and

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Speaker 1: work accordingly, and they set themselves up really well going

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Speaker 1: into next year with this rookie class.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, one of the things, you know, you

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Speaker 3: mentioned we did a lot of different mock drafts. But

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Speaker 3: the problem with you know, oftentimes, you know, we're we're

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Speaker 3: having the discussion, well do we take Keanu Benton here

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Speaker 3: in the second round or we take Darnell Washington? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: or do we take do we take Joey Porter Junior

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Speaker 3: in the first round, or do we take Broderick Jones

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Speaker 3: if he's available.

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Speaker 2: They end up getting all these guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing is, I mean, there was no discussion.

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Speaker 2: They just got them.

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Speaker 1: They just got him, and it worked out really well

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Speaker 1: that they traded up a little in the first round

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Speaker 1: and then they were able to trade back and recoup

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Speaker 1: that pick more or less. You know, it's not like

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Speaker 1: they super shorted themselves anywhere. I keep bringing up Trice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a two hundred and forty first pick overall,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, do I expect him to be the

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Speaker 1: next Rod Woodston or Mel Blunt. No, But I can't

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Speaker 1: believe they got him. I mean, they got two king

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Speaker 1: sized press Man corners that I believe just watching tape

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Speaker 1: could be their starters, that they might be a start.

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Speaker 1: They might have a starting pair of corners here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, probably not this year, but maybe down

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Speaker 3: the road, right, you know, and if that turns out

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Speaker 3: to be the case, my god, you know yeah, people

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Speaker 3: will say, oh, you know, the Steelers can't develop cornerbacks. Well,

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Speaker 3: everybody who says that was complaining when they lost Camp Sutton, right,

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Speaker 3: good point. You know, well a guy that they developed,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what are they going to do without

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Speaker 2: They developed him.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's they haven't used a ton of premium

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Speaker 3: draft picks on cornerbacks.

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Speaker 2: They just haven't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, if Cortez Allen in a fourth

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Speaker 3: round doesn't work out, that's not a failure by the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: That's a fourth round draft pick, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a low hit rate for any team,

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Speaker 1: without question. I think a theme that I keep coming

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Speaker 1: back to, which extends to even more than just this

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Speaker 1: draft class, but is actuated by extenuated by it, is

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of physical, powerful, beat your face type

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Speaker 2: Big.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all these guys are no one's undersized or

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Speaker 1: a finesse player. And I'm talking about free agency, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about trades. I'm talking about really this draft class.

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Speaker 1: And there's some even some outliers here. I mean kind

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Speaker 1: of touched on Porter and Trice's size for the corner position,

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Speaker 1: let alone Washington's. I mean Washington's is rare for the position.

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Speaker 1: So in the draft that was loaded with physical outliers

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Speaker 1: the wrong way. You know, Bryce Young was tiny, Skrosky

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Speaker 1: the arm length. Well, Steeler has got the physical outliers

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Speaker 1: in the good way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and got value from them if you look at it.

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Speaker 3: Of course, to recap the they trade up in the

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Speaker 3: first round to go get Broderick Jones, moving up, moving

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Speaker 3: from seventeen up to fourteen.

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Speaker 2: To do that. Making the trade with the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: There was talk they had a lot of offers on

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Speaker 3: the first pick of round two, and they decided in

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Speaker 3: the end that well, we're just gonna stay here and

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Speaker 3: take the guy we wanted, the guy we would have

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Speaker 3: taken at seventeen if things had fallen a certain way,

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Speaker 3: And so they took Joey Porter Junior. I think the

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Speaker 3: next eight picks after Porter Matt were offensive players.

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Speaker 1: Real. They really I didn't even in.

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Speaker 3: The in the draft itself, so maybe they could have

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Speaker 3: moved back. Maybe maybe not. But Porter was the best

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Speaker 3: defensive player apparently on team's boards at that point.

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Speaker 1: It's sure, like you said, I'm sure they of course

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Speaker 1: they fielded calls. They had almost twenty four hours to

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Speaker 1: do so. But it sure got the feeling being down

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Speaker 1: there that sure, we'll listen, but you're gonna have to overpay.

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Speaker 2: Somebody would have had to have overwhelmed them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're gonna have to really

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Speaker 1: blow our doors off because we love the player sitting there.

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Speaker 3: And that was the kind of the theme of this

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Speaker 3: draft as a whole, is that the cost of moving

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Speaker 3: around wasn't necessarily all that expensive this year. I know,

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Speaker 3: everybody looks at the and I had people tweet at me, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, the trade chart, the trade chart, the trade chart.

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Speaker 2: Teams don't pay attention to the trade chart anymore.

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Speaker 3: If they ever did, because they just what's the value

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Speaker 3: to it for them? And a draft like this that's

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Speaker 3: so deep that the currency this year was more or

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Speaker 3: less a fourth round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we moved down a few spots because there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys here I like, and I get

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Speaker 1: another bite at the apple in the fourth round, a

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Speaker 1: fifth round, whatever. Right, Yeah, I mean you're I think

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Speaker 1: you're dead on, you know. I mean there's a couple

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Speaker 1: strange trends to this draft. I mean, like where all

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Speaker 1: the third tiear quarterbacks went higher than I thought. There

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Speaker 1: were a lot of kickers and punters taken. There were

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Speaker 1: a ton of trades. But you know, to harp on

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Speaker 1: that one, I think it's because trading was economical. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, we're not married to a player at eighty

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Speaker 1: eight or whatever. We'll take one at ninety three that

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Speaker 1: we like just as much, so we'll move down to

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Speaker 1: a minimal cost.

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Speaker 3: Well, that brings me to So they take Porter in

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Speaker 3: the second round, first pick of the second round. They

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Speaker 3: stay with her at forty nine, and they take kean

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Speaker 3: U Benton, the big defensive tackle out of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Then they get to close to their pick at eighty

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Speaker 2: and Omar Khan said.

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Speaker 3: His at the wrap up press conference Saturday night that

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Speaker 3: they had ten players that they were looking at there

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Speaker 3: with that with that eightieth pick, okay, and then they

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Speaker 3: got the call and the offer from the Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 3: was a fourth round draft pick that they had just lost,

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Speaker 3: that they had just lost, and they said, Okay, we

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Speaker 3: can move back and we'll probably get one of these

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Speaker 3: ten players that we like here. Even if moving back

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Speaker 3: thirteen spots, there's not all ten of those guys are gonna.

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Speaker 1: Go, right, Not everyone's gonna have the top ten. Yeah's

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Speaker 1: a safe Yeah.

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Speaker 3: As it turned out, they got the player according to

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Speaker 3: con anyways that they had at number.

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Speaker 2: One on that list of ten interesting in Darnell Washington.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it goes back to what you know, we.

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Speaker 3: Talked about it that night because there were so many

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Speaker 3: tight ends taken ahead of Washington, and you know, there's

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Speaker 3: only so many spots for tight ends in the league.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just okay, we're gon we're gonna roll

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Speaker 3: five of the teams that were between their pick and

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Speaker 3: that ninety third pick between eighty and ninety three had

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Speaker 3: probably taken tight ends already. They weren't going to take

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Speaker 3: a tight end, and then so Darnell Washington falls into

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Speaker 3: your lap exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean that worked out incredibly well and was tight

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Speaker 1: ending massive need of course not, but I kept harping

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Speaker 1: on it for this reason leading up to the draft

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Speaker 1: is really good ones are gonna fall. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: not landing spots for all of them. It's just a

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Speaker 1: math equation. And in this case, one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: ones fell to ninety three, which I'm sure that the

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Speaker 1: knee situation, which I don't know a lot about, maybe

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Speaker 1: you know, were if there was a tie between Laporta

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Speaker 1: or schoon Maker and Washington, maybe Washington lost the tiebreaker

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Speaker 1: because of medicals. Whatever. I mean, it's still benefit the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you get him in ninety three, what

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Speaker 1: he brings to the table on the field is immense.

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Speaker 3: And he wasn't going to be for everybody anyways, because

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Speaker 3: he's a true in line tight end and some teams

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Speaker 3: don't even line their tight ups in line.

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Speaker 2: They put him there, all right, what are we gonna

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Speaker 2: do with that guy? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you take advantage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I really think it was about that particular

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Speaker 3: tight end, Okay. I think they wanted that guy because

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Speaker 3: of what he would add in the running game for them.

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Speaker 1: He was in for a visit. I can't remember if

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Speaker 1: any other tight ends off the top of my head were.

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Speaker 2: Uh, No, he was the only one I believe, so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly he was a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: a target than others. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Then it turns out in the fourth round with that

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Speaker 3: pick that they picked up, they ended up getting Nick Herbig,

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Speaker 3: who Nobody would say this, but it wouldn't surprise me

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Speaker 3: if he had been.

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Speaker 2: On that list of ten guys they would have taken

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Speaker 2: an eighty.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't surprise me if I hadn't thought of it

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Speaker 2: But if he wasn't on that list, he probably wasn't

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Speaker 1: It wasn't far off. And I meant to say this

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Speaker 1: have gladly taken Benton or Washington at thirty two, let

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Speaker 3: After that, and then you end up at two forty

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Speaker 3: one with Corey Trice, and I just think that was

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Speaker 3: just too good to be true. Yeah, I mean when

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Speaker 3: I was putting, like every other pick that that happened.

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Speaker 2: We were on the air the entire draft time and

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Speaker 3: I would I would tweet out, okay, here's who I

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Speaker 3: about all these guys. I didn't even consider Corey Trice

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Speaker 3: at two forty one because they'd already taken Joey Porter, right.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee they had better than a seventh round draft

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Speaker 3: great on Corey Trice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every best remaining if it was DJs or ProFootball,

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Speaker 1: I didn't bring him up either, And I'm like, boy, be nicely.

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Speaker 1: I thought, in the back of my head, it'd be

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Speaker 1: great to get that guy, but they're not going to

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Speaker 1: take two outside corners that are you know, two hundred

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Speaker 1: they probably didn't plan on it. They just said, why

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Speaker 1: don't we you know, it's seventh round or how many hits?

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Speaker 1: It's a valuable position. Is it a bad thing to

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Speaker 1: have too many big, strong, long corners? No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that room got awfully crowded. And then

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Speaker 3: of course they added Spencer Anderson, the offensive lineman out

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Speaker 3: That was the pick they swapped spots with the for

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Speaker 3: the Allen Robinson trates. That was actually the pick of

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Speaker 3: the Rams. And he's the one guy that I looked at.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know a lot about him, but interesting guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, played all five off line spots in his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've obviously done a lot more homework on him

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Speaker 1: post draft than pre draft, and I like him more

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Speaker 1: and more. I mean, seventh round offensive lineman. How many

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Speaker 1: of those guys make an impact in the league. Not many,

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Speaker 1: but he has a lot of avenues to do so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if he will be competing for

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Speaker 1: might he play some snaps at tackle in camp? I

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Speaker 1: mean everyone lists him as a guard, but as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: the versatility is the key with the guy, and the

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Speaker 1: tape certainly isn't bad. He's a plus athlete though, like

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Speaker 1: his jump numbers are really good. All those stuff. There's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when you show the ability to do that. Look,

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Speaker 3: he's a seventh round draft pick. The odds say he

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Speaker 3: is never going to be a starter in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: But when you have that kind of ability to play

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Speaker 3: across the line. Now, he's probably never going to play

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Speaker 3: left tackle in the NFL. Chances are he's not going

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Speaker 3: the ability to do that kind of stuff, he could

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Speaker 3: play in the league for ten.

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Speaker 2: Years, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you've the squint super hard two or

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Speaker 1: three years from now, he's a starting interior alignment, but

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Speaker 1: probably more likely and this would be a home run

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Speaker 1: That's so important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And of course we also also got the news.

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Speaker 3: And this hasn't been announced yet. There's still physicals that

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Speaker 3: a report out there that this are signing a Chandon Sullivan,

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Speaker 3: the cornerback who've spent last season with the Packers, has

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Speaker 2: A pure slot more or less.

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Speaker 3: And I mean that's the one thing I kept banging

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Speaker 3: big who knows, but that was the one spot. You

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Speaker 3: can't get everything, especially when you're taking value like this,

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Speaker 3: but you know, adding a veterans slot corner to the equation, Okay,

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Speaker 3: that makes sense too, That.

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Speaker 1: Makes sense too. My hunch is that one of their

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Speaker 1: at ninety three. We would have taken maybe a slot

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Speaker 1: So you call call up with an agent and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: b because he's a various staffs player and people. I

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Speaker 1: can't we can't harp on this enough. Is this roster

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Speaker 1: still isn't done. I mean you mentioned her big. It

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Speaker 1: wouldn't blow me away if they added an off the

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Speaker 2: We're certainly gonna added quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, they've got three on the roster right now,

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Speaker 3: you know, so, yeah, they're they're certainly not done.

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Speaker 2: You know. No, mare Cohn said.

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Speaker 3: That, you know when the draft was was was completed it,

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Speaker 2: Not finished here.

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Speaker 3: We still got some things we want to do, and

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Speaker 3: I mean this this roster got incredibly deep with.

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Speaker 1: This, yeah, absolutely, And there are some slot options. There

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Speaker 1: think deep down that's Mark Robinson. But all those spots

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're gonna start to see here over

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Speaker 3: post June first stuff that happens as well. So, I mean,

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Speaker 3: this roster is not nearly finished yet, but man, you.

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Speaker 1: Get a lot so thinking the nice strides in the

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Speaker 3: Well, without a doubt, and you know, if you look

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Speaker 3: ended up with what I say, five of the top

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Speaker 1: Four of the top forty, and five of the top

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Speaker 2: There you go. So, yeah, I mean for the top

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Speaker 3: And you didn't have a high, high first round draft pick,

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Speaker 3: you weren't, you know, you didn't you want to ax it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? For multiple first round picks, right, So.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty, you know, pretty amazing.

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Speaker 3: And it's the same thing with Damee Brugler's list, I

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Speaker 3: think they ended up with with you know, similar numbers

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Speaker 3: off of his list. So not surprisingly, the Steelers got

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Speaker 3: really high marks across the league, you know, from all

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Speaker 1: No really, I didn't even notice.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it, you know, particularly in this draft

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a great pick at forty nine.

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Speaker 1: It might be my favorite for what you paid. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you for what you paid and what's available

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Speaker 1: and much another trend with these guys young, developing, coming

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he might be the guy the one

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Speaker 3: player on this listen Porter could as well, but he

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Speaker 3: might be the guy that comes in from day one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or at least is a rotational defensive tackle. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's gonna play a lot on

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Speaker 1: game day no matter where he aligns. In my opinion.

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