WEBVTT - From Rivales to Amigas with Helen Ochoa 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:06.480 I can honestly say that Helen is one of my 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.559 best friends. Helen has been like a therapist. She knows 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:13.560 everything about me. But it wasn't always like that. I 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.319 think it just became a thing where it was a 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.759 lot more convenient for just the music industry in general, 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.680 for all of the women to be like on their toes. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.120 I know what it's like to not have major label support, 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.479 you know, sometimes seen it from your colleagues feels so 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.720 uplifting and it just also makes you feel like we're 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:40.000 in this together. Hey, what up, guys. Welcome back to 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.280 another episode of cheek Ease and Chill. I'm your lovely 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.559 host cheek Ease, and today we have one of my 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:49.199 coolest friends on the pod. We're gonna be talking about friendship, 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.120 which actually didn't start out as a friendship, just f 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.880 y I, So stay tuned for that. And we're also 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.320 going to talk a little bit about our music careers 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.639 and the industry. So let's get right into it. This 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:08.560 is chick eas and Chill. Okay, so it's promised. I 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.000 have one of my beautiful best friends here with me today. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.840 Her name is Helen o Choa or Helena Santos she's 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.520 a regional Mexican singer songwriter, and we actually collaborated on 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.080 a song a couple of years ago called Last If 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.800 you haven't heard it, go listen to it. Now. What up, amiga? 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.880 What's your friend? I'm so happy to have you here. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.360 Thank you, thank you. I'm happy to be here. I 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.319 think this podcast is freaking awesome. I love listening you. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:37.399 I love I love the conversations. This is exactly what 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.039 we need to just let out. You know, what we 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:41.600 have in our horrib but we have in our mind. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.080 We never know who we might impact in a positive voice. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.039 So kudo's my friend. Thank you so much. Thank you 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.760 for being here. And you guys, we've been friends for 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:54.280 what three years now? Right? Friends? Just about? Yeah? Yes? 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.720 So I think we should start there so I can 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.680 honestly say that Helen is one of my friends. I 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.080 have very few friends, you guys. So for me, it's 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.639 like Helen has been like a therapist. She knows everything 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.040 about me, she's giving me great advice. But it wasn't 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.040 always like that, Like I said, so I think we 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.040 should we should talk about that friend. Was it the 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.480 media that started bellow between us? Or I think the 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:22.520 very first time we had this conversation, it flowed perfectly, 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.840 I think because we were just honest at heart. I 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:29.240 don't think we ever necessarily had a personal problem with 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.840 each other. I think at some point we thought it 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.480 was personal because I know, like we both kind of 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.639 had neutral feelings like okay, like I'm nice to her, 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.120 but I don't feel like it's it's clicking, like, so 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.520 I guess I'm just gonna stay on my side. And 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.800 then you kind of stayed on your side, like we 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:49.760 we kind of were like almost like unspoken enemies, it 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.840 felt like. And then I didn't see you, I guess, 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.320 like as a person that like I know, mom old 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.600 or you know, I never I never hated you, I never, 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.320 like nothing of that sort. I think it just came 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.040 a thing of you know, we were we were on 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.840 separate labels, but those labels, you know, technically had their 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.000 their beats, yes, their own beat, and I think it 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.839 kind of just arbitracted to it. Yeah, it became our beef, 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.600 you know. And I remember when we spoke about how 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.880 like you were one color, I was another color, you know, 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.919 was like we kind of just stick to our colors, 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:28.360 to our people stuck to that bridge, and we never 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.160 we never crossed each other's and it was so crazy 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:35.080 because I remember the very first time that we actually 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.880 spoke to each other. It was it was during like 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:43.600 in Sioso. You were just absolutely sweet to me. I 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.880 had performed during that, but I remember you hosted. And 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.000 then after there was many like a couple of months 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:55.240 after we've we've gone to a mutual friend's wedding and 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.480 I saw you that you were so sweet. You came 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.560 and said hi. You were like, oh my god, I 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.040 loved your outfit. It was super cool and you sounded amazing. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.280 Fel always like oh my god, thank you, like it 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.600 was it was just so sweet, and I thought like, 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.960 she's actually really nice. And I always thought like, I remember, 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:14.440 I haven't even told you because I had seen you 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:19.479 at the It was inaccuration for uh, your Mama's, the 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.679 reality show that she did, and I remember I was like, frescosa, 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.400 she's so pretty and thank you friend, I swear you know. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.600 And I think it just at some point we got 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.640 into this mode that we didn't really ask for, but 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:40.880 we kind of had to like not necessarily defend our people, 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.840 but it was more like just okay, well, I'm gonna 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.720 have to have a guard up because I'm on this 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.800 side and she's on this side. And it was like 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.200 that for a very long time. For a long time, 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:53.320 it was so uncomfortable because I'm not one to have 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:57.719 issues with anybody, no man who's done. And now that 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.560 I know you, you're the same way. You get along 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.880 with everyone. Everyone loves you, you know, you and your 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.719 husband JP shout out to Jape's you know. But I 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.640 think what it was it was like you said you 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.520 were blue. I was read. You know, it's like something 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.760 we hadn't we chose, but we didn't, so it was 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.360 kind of like they have beef, so it's our beef. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.960 And then not only that, it was they kept I 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.400 think putting things I think more in your head about 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.760 me that I didn't like you, that I was trying 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:28.000 to stop your career, that I supposedly had this power 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:32.680 of like not having certain networks interview you, because if 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.159 they interviewed you, then I was going to be upset 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:36.640 and I was going to give them an interview, which 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.719 is absolutely fucking faults you guys. I would never do that. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.920 I've heard things of like oh checks pays radio stations, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.440 so that they don't play my music. They used to 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.640 say the same thing about your mom. It's crazy, Yeah, 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.960 why would I spend my money on that, like to 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.200 stop someone's career? Absolutely not. And I think it just 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.320 became a thing where it was a lot more convenient 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.920 for just the music industry in general, you know, for 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.560 all of the women to be like on their toes. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.680 And I think the point where your your mom passed, 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.000 you know, a lot of people came about with you know, 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:15.160 oh my god, proxima. You know, there's an next one. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.760 And it's like I think I understood fully even when 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:23.600 she was here, you know, present, there's no feeling someone's shoes, 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.920 you know, it's it's creating your own path with your 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.120 own damn shoes. And I think at some point, you know, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:34.440 when time passed, we went our own paths, even beyond 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.640 you know, the people we were working with at the time. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.919 And I think both of us kind of once we 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.960 were in a good place, you know, maturity falls into place. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.680 Obviously you see things a little bit different, and then 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.640 then you're just kind of like, Okay, maybe I was 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.320 wrong about her, you know, maybe maybe things aren't like this. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.520 And I remember, I think it was in two thousand. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.400 It was in two thousands seventeen. I sent you flowers 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.719 your birthday, and it's crazy. We have a beautiful friend, 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.400 uh from Miami, and I had spoken to her a 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.960 little bit about it, and she actually told me like, 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.719 chicks is the sweetest person on the planet, Like I've 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.840 never heard of say anything about about anybody, and and 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.520 it's crazy how much you girls are so much alike. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.720 I think at some point when I send your flowers, 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.280 I was like, okay, you know, I don't know what's 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.240 gonna happen. She can be like, what is this, what's 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.640 the purpose of this? You didn't have her garden up 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.680 with me or or just simply say oh that was 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:31.000 really sweet, like I posted them. I was so surprised, exactly, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.480 and I was like, okay, I have this intuition. I'm 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.400 super intuitive, and it's so crazy because so are you. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:40.000 It's freaking DUTs. But I thought like, okay, if my 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:44.120 intuition is correct, it's gonna make her smile. But you know, 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.640 kind of time passed. I think like two years pasted 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.000 it because it was I think we're turning my team 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:55.120 until I forgot what it is you posted JP and 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.040 I started laughing and he's like, don't you messenger. See 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.880 she wants to grab some dinner. Say, I can't do that, 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.240 and he's like why, Like I can't just do that? 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.040 Like no, Like I'm not gonna just He's like, why not, 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.520 you know, just just do it. You never know. I 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.880 was like, okay, here it goes so here. I am 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.960 like hey, and then I kind of just left it 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.120 alone and I'm like, okay, you if you want to 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.800 get together sometime, you know, let me know. And I 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.080 think after like it was like a couple of hours 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:31.280 and hey, yeah, let's do it all right, we didn't 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.320 actually meet. I think it was too like a couple 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:34.760 of weeks. It might have even been almost like a 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.360 month later, like a month I think it was. But 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.920 it's so crazy. I'm the kind of person I always 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.880 know when I meet someone the place they're gonna have 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.679 in my life. I always know by the way they 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.880 say hello. It's so crazy, but I always crazy. I 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.480 always know by the first hello, the eye contact, the 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.720 facial expression, the aura, the overall vibe of that person. 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:00.880 I can tell the media lee and I remember I 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.440 walked into the restaurant. I was like, okay, here it goes. 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.080 I I did a prayer in the car with literally 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.280 because I love you, I swear. I was like, I 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.839 don't know it's gonna happened. I don't know if I'm 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.960 gonna walk in there and everything's gonna flow, or if 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:21.000 like it's gonna become a you know play. I honestly 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.599 did not know what's gonna happen. And I remember I 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.200 walked in, I looked for you, and You're like, Helen, 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:31.200 I'm over here. You were waving. That's super cheesy, I swear. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:36.679 I swear. I relaxed and I was like, Okay, this 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.079 is you. God, It's fine. It's gonna be fine. And 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.960 I remember I actually had to take a trip back home. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.040 I was like, okay, I have maybe like an hour 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:47.599 and a half, two hours, and then we have to 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.719 get going, and you had a meeting right after. It 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.920 was like a like a kind of like the late 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.280 lunch that we took. We ended up being there for 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:59.480 like five hours talking and I remember that talking about everything. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.679 Third time by so fast that I didn't even realize, 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:09.280 Holy mother, we've been here for five hours. A great 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:18.839 conversation going back to the whole thing, and you know, 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.520 people or women should I say in the industry, you guys, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:26.679 it's unfortunate. I think that Helen and I um. For me, 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.360 I'm all about women empowerment, as you guys know on 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.079 my social media and everything. But I'm not just I 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.360 don't just talk about it like I I do it, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.880 you know, with you guys, that was the first time 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.679 in regional Mexican music, and it still hasn't been done 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.720 again where three women collab on one song that's done 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.319 in Roano. We see the Becky Gs, Carol Gs, Anitas 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.400 of that world collaborating, but it doesn't happen in our 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.959 music and regional Mexican music. Why because you know, And 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:57.920 that's the problem where I was like, no, we have 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.720 to and I've tried to get along with all all 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.719 the women in the industry. I really have that song 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.439 as a tramp, as you guys, was supposed to be 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:09.559 with two other girls, and then another one that I'm 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.319 just not going to mention because it's not worth it. 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.720 But Victoria, it kind of happened the same thing. People 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.079 started beef. Whatever her and I talked, we hashed it out. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:23.000 We're cool as funk. I love VI and with Helen 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.320 and Ellie because I felt that's how you know, God's 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.720 timing is perfect. But there's just this jealousy amongst women 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.880 in our industry that it's there's only one spot for 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.800 a woman, that's it, and it's like, why should it 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.000 be that way? There is so much talent that I'm like, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.200 the way I'm going to show that is by using 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.079 my social media posting other women's music. Because I have 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:48.839 my own thing, they have theirs, And I think that 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.280 that's what sets us apart because Helen is the same way. 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:54.560 You know, I see you posting, I see you get 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.920 along with so many. I think there's just one that 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.120 you don't get along with. But that's not your fault. 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.360 That's ship. But Helen is the same way. Like Helen, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.079 Helen is celebrates and that's what we need more of, 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:11.960 you know, celebrating women and lifting each other as you know, cliche, 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.360 as it sounds united, you know, we stand stronger, but 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.920 it's true, you know, and this is what we have 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:22.000 to do and support women. I hate seeing where women 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.640 are tearing each other down, especially on social media, and 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.080 it's just I'm not cool with that. I'm not down 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.960 with that. So Helen talked to us a little bit 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.959 about that, because you do show on your social media 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.240 that you're not just about women empowerment, like you really 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.800 do uplift other women in this industry. And I love 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.719 that about you. Thank you so much. And you know, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:46.719 it's I think it's it's tough because I I know 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.760 what it's like. I know what it's like to be 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.360 alone in the industry and not have you know, a 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.760 major label support. You know, right now, it's literally just 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.400 JP and I. We hired of friend of mine, you know, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.839 to help us out when I do events or you know, 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.800 when I do other things. I'm also an entrepreneur, I 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.240 have a I have a little small business of a 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.719 small life of Blain guys, the life of playing, you know, 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.920 and and we we kind of took baby stairs in 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.000 this entire thing. But I know it's like to not 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.040 have that support. You know, sometimes seeing it from your 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:26.400 colleagues feels just like saw uplifting, motivating, and and it 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.599 just also kind of makes you feel like we're in 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.079 this together. We have the same struggles, we have the 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.880 same battles. We know. You know that unfortunately, spots for 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.640 women in the industry are very scarce, you know, so 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.679 just we have no control over that, even if we 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.880 put out good songs, even if we do a badass video, 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.040 and you know, we're we're doing promo tours and things 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.120 like that. Sometimes in presidial still will have a cap 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.160 leta with like, you know, ten men that are gonna 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.800 show face at this show and there's one woman on 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.720 the roster at most. Two. Two is already a big thing. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.280 Three absolutely unheard of. Okay, So but why do you 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.240 think that is? Though? I think there's a misconception about 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:10.400 us that absolutely is old school and get a lot 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.040 of a lot of people still have it, you know. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.640 I think they think that we're doing music almost like 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.040 part time, like we're doing music, but as at exactly 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.320 we're doing it as a hobby. You know, we're we're 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.080 not willing to work, we're not willing to travel, we're 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:29.200 you know, very offensive, exactly, or we're married to somebody 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.080 that's too jealous and it's not gonna you know, travel 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.480 and do the most. Maybe it was that way in 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.120 a lot of cases, not all of them, you know, 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.880 but in a lot of cases back in the day, 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.520 you know, back in the nineties and things like that. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.040 But we're talking about a time where you know, now 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.280 like people are blowing up on on social media. You know, women, 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.680 we're envirable on TikTok. I've spoken a lot about this 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.200 little girl because I absolutely love her story. I have 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.920 not seen that little girl once complained, I've never seen 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.360 that list girl. Absolutely and she's dope. As how, it's 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:07.440 a competition must be in. I feel with the men, 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.840 they're honestly our biggest competition. They're the ones in the 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.680 popularity list for radios. They're the ones that you know 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.760 have you know a lot more playlists sometimes And I'm 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.360 not saying that that's the case all the time, but 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.240 you know, sometimes I see it a lot more on 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:28.800 that side. On this side, you know, every playlist, you know, 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:32.840 they're putting more women in the cover art. It's it's happening. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.400 It's slowly but surely happening. I think it's just patients 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:43.360 and that I personally feel it's get which I think 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.080 is great that have high and important positions that I 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.000 don't know why I feel like we don't get as 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.400 much support from them. It's crazy. I'm like, you're a woman, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.280 you know what it is to be a woman and 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.040 how difficult it must have been for you in the 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.360 corporate world to get to that position. Should what's that? 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.400 I mean, if you don't like our music, cool, But 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.400 it's just kind of like I know a few and 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.320 I'm obviously not going to name them, but it's just 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:13.880 like they make it a little bit more difficult the 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.920 powers in their hands, you know, to make you a 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.240 priority on a playlist, you know, to even put you 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.640 on the playlist to begin with. This is definitely a 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:25.680 conversation that that should be had, you know, by by 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.960 everybody in the industry, because at the end of the day, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.360 I think something that your mom did Marvelous Lee was 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.840 just Okay, you're not gonna give me a path. I'm 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.920 gonna show you. I'm gonna create, I'm gonna make my path, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:41.920 and then I'm gonna make her you hear what I 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.560 have to say. And I think that's something that I 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.640 always admired about her, And I feel like I almost think, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:52.280 do we do we have to have? Like? Like is 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.240 that how it has to be? Like what what's the 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.120 deal here? Like do we have to be do we 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.240 have to be bitches? Come on? Like, you know what, 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:00.200 That's what my mom would always say. She is like 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.640 I wasn't always a bit. The industry made me a 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.399 bit because I had to defend myself. I remember we 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.000 that we had had that conversation, and it's something that 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:12.080 I feel like, you know, damn, I I still can't 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.560 pinpoint it, you know, exactly, but I can definitely say that, 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.240 you know, the public has you know, the power to 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.720 you know, to help us in that in that I 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.560 guess aspect of Okay, you know, I don't see this 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.720 song on this playlist. Hey I want Helen song in here. 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.840 Hey you guys should put Chicky song in here, especially 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.119 if we're we're consistent, we keep putting our music. And 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.480 it's a lot of money. It's it's this takes expensive 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.720 much money. It's it's Saturday, you know, and so much effort, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.879 so much of your time. Like you know, you you 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.959 put some creativity behind something, and and I can honestly 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:53.480 say sometimes it can it can actually be discouraging, you know, 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.480 when for sure you put something out and then you're like, damn, 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.400 you know, I didn't make any playlists or I made 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.040 only one, or damning, I'm not I'm not getting enough 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:04.720 of views. You know. Let me, let me try to 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.440 push this a little bit more. But I think it's 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.320 you know, if you if you have this like passion 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.040 for for a female artist, help her out, you know, 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.159 put it out there the same thing that we do. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.200 You know, you like a nice story. I only things 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:28.879 like that, and and it's it's you know, yeah, and 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.760 Norman look. And I think one of the things that 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.119 I also believe, and I've talked about this recently, is 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.399 that I actually just did promo with a friend who 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.720 I also collaborated with. I specified, how you know, women 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.879 in the industry too, we we have an obligation to 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:49.200 have consistency. I do see some women that come out 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.399 don't have a really good song, but they won't put 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.320 a song out sometimes until another like six seven months 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.280 or even a year. Things like that also kind of 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.920 pushed back a little bit of we're trying to like 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.840 take steps forward with because of the consistency, you know. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:06.840 And I know it's expensive. I get it. It's a 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.280 lot of work. It's it's it's tough to kind of 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:13.080 keep up because now music is being consumed so fast 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:15.680 that I just I think we talked about this friend, 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.560 like how like so I used to last a single 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:21.880 used to last three three months, six months within a month. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.000 It's like, Okay, what else you got? What else can 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.200 and it's like, dude, hold on, so down. I spent 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.359 a lot of money on that freaking song, the mixing, 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:37.520 the mastering, the cover, are you know? The photos? Holy 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.040 where to go? You should be proud of yourself, though, Helen. 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:44.720 To my listeners who haven't heard my friends music, please 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:54.320 go listen to it on all the digital platforms. How 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:56.480 old were you when you started singing friends? I was 0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:00.480 literally I think when I started singing, I I think 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:07.200 more like like formally, I I guess, yeah, yeah, I 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.600 was about eight years old. The very first time that 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.800 I like the courage to like grabl Mike. I remember 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.000 it was at my sister's Inzana, and you know we're 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.840 Mexican and during that time, my parents budget was very small, 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.200 so they're like, okay, we want to get married, but 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:25.360 it's also Francisca, my sister or Kinzana, and Helen needs 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.080 to do her first communion. We had the biggest, fattest 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:33.960 party with my parents, married my sister Kinzana and my 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.320 first communion. At the moment I was I was little, 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.320 I thought it was a great idea. Now that I'm older, 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.320 I'm like, you guys are mean she should have had 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:46.680 her own moments, you know, and and yeah. But I'm like, okay, well, 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:48.639 you know, I guess it was done that way because 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.159 my parents, you know, they had to save money. It 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:51.560 was the only way to do it back in the day. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.920 But basically they had a banda there. Um. I asked 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:56.200 my dad if I could stay with the banda. He 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.200 said no, He's like, go play with your cousins, forget 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.000 about it. But I was like, I was determined. I'm like, okay, 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:02.840 I'm not gonna give up. So I went straight to 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.000 the band that I grabbed him. I canna tell the director. 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:06.439 I'm like, I want to sing, and he looked at 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.280 me the same way, like, oh, you're cute. I'm like, no, no, 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.119 I'm serious, sucker. I want to say you know what 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.120 I mean like I want to say and he's like, okay, yeah. 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.159 So I sing my very first song at that family 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.399 part that it was. It was the first time my 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:23.080 dad was like, okay, like there's something here. Yeah, see 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.919 you guys. The number one thing she was persistent, okay, 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.680 very important. As we listened to her story, persistence okay, 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:35.080 go on friend. So basically he he bought me a 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:41.880 karaoke machine. He bought me a bunch of CDs. Selena Obviously, 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.880 I think every little girl I wanted to be Selina, 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.320