1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: I can honestly say that Helen is one of my 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: best friends. Helen has been like a therapist. She knows 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: everything about me. But it wasn't always like that. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 2: I think it just became a thing where it was 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: a lot more convenient for just the music industry in general, 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: for all of the women to be like on their toes. 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: I know what it's like to not have major label support, 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes seeing it from your colleagues feels so uplifting, 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: and it just also makes you feel like we're in 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: this together. 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: Hey, what up, guys? 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cheeky's and Chill. I'm 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: your lovely host Cheeky's and today we have one of 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: my coolest friends on the pod. We're gonna be talking 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: about friendship, which actually didn't start out as a friendship 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: just FYI, So stay tuned for that. And we're also 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: going to talk a little bit about our music careers 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: and the industry. So let's get right into it. This 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: is Cheeky's and Chill. Okay, so it's promised. I have 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: one of my beautiful best friends here with me today. 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: Her name is. 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: Helen Ochoa or Helen Ochoa Santos she's a regional Mexican 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: singer songwriter, and we actually collaborated on a song a 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: couple of years ago called Las estran Palas. 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: If you haven't heard it, go listen to it. Now. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: What up, amiga? What's a friend? I'm so happy to 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: have you here. 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. I'm happy to be here. I 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: think this podcast is freaking awesome. 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: I love listening to you. 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: I love I love the conversations. This is exactly what 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: we need to just let out. You know, what we 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: have in our heartor what we have in our mind, 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: we never know who we might impact in a positive way. 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: So kudos my friend. 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you for being here. And 37 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: you guys, we've been friends for what three years now? 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: Right? 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: Friend? 40 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: Just about? Yeah? 41 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 42 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: So I think we should start there. 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 44 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: So I can honestly say that Helen is one of 45 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: my best friends. I have very few friends, you guys. 46 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: So for me, it's like Helen has been like a therapist. 47 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: She knows everything about me, She's given me great advice. 48 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: But it wasn't always like that, Like I said, so 49 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: I think we should we should talk about that friend. 50 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: Was it the media that started below between us? 51 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 2: Or I think the very first time we had this conversation, 52 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: it flowed perfectly. I think because we were just honest 53 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: at heart. I don't think we ever necessarily had a 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: personal problem. 55 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: With each other. 56 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: I think at some point we thought it was personal 57 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: because I know, like we both kind of had mutual 58 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: feelings like okay, like I'm nice to her, but I 59 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: don't feel like it's it's clicking, like, so I guess 60 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna stay on my side. And then you 61 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: kind of stayed on your side, like we kind of 62 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: were like almost like unspoken enemies, it felt like. And 63 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: then I didn't see you, I guess like as a 64 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 2: person that like I know, Mamzlawodi or you know. 65 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 4: I never hated you. I never like nothing of that sort. 66 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: I think it just became a thing of you know, 67 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: we were we were on separate labels, but those labels, 68 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, technically had their their beef, yes, their own beef, 69 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: and I think it kind of just arbitra in to it. 70 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it became our beef too, you know. 71 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: And I remember when we spoke about how like you 72 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: were one color, I was another color. 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: You know, it was like we kind of just stuck 74 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: to our. 75 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: Colors, to our our people, stuck to that bridge and 76 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: we never we never crossed each other. And it was 77 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: so crazy because I remember the very first time that 78 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: we actually spoke to each other. It was it was 79 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: during like SCIOs of Primus Laado. You were just absolutely 80 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: sweet to me. I had performed during that premnos, but 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: I remember you hosted. And then after that was maybe 82 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: like a couple months after, we'd gone to a mutual 83 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: friend's wedding and I saw you that you were so sweet. 84 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: You came and said hi. 85 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: You were like, oh my god, I loved your outfit. 86 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: It was super cool and you sounded amazing Felicia. 87 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, thank you. Like it was. 88 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 4: It was just so sweet, and I thought like she's 89 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: actually really nice. 90 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: And I always thought like I can't want it that 91 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: I remember I even told you because I had seen 92 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: you at the it was an inauguration for your Mama's, 93 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: the reality show that she did. 94 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember I was like, breciosa person, she's. 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: So pretty, and thank you friend. 96 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: I swear you know. 97 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: And I think it just at some point we got 98 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: into this mode that we didn't really ask for, but 99 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: we kind of had to like not necessarily defend our people, 100 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: but it was more like just Okay, well I'm gonna 101 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: have to have a guard up because I'm on this 102 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: side and she's on this side. 103 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: And it was like that for a very long time. 104 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: For a long time, it was so uncomfortable because I'm 105 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: not one to have issues with anybody, no man who's 106 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: standing los problemas. And now that I know you, you're the 107 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: same way. You get along with everyone, and everyone loves you, 108 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, you and your husband JP shout out to 109 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Jake's you know. But I think what it was it 110 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: was like you said you were blue, I was red. 111 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: You know, It's like something we hadn't we chose, but 112 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: we didn't. So it was kind of like they have beef, 113 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: so it's our beef. 114 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 115 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: And then not only. 116 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: That, it was they kept I think putting things I 117 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: think more in your head about me, that I didn't 118 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: like you, that I was trying to stop your career, 119 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: that I supposedly had this power of like not having 120 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: certain networks interview you, because if they interviewed you, then 121 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: I was going to be upset and I was going 122 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: to give them an interview, which is absolutely fucking false, 123 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: you guys, I would never do that. I've heard things 124 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: of like, oh, Cheeky's pays radio stations so that they 125 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: don't play my music. 126 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: They used to say the same thing about your mom. 127 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy, Yeah, Why would I spend my money on that, 128 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,119 Speaker 1: like to stop someone's career. 129 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 130 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: And I think it just became a thing where it 131 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: was a lot more convenient for just the music industry 132 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: in general, you know, for all of the women to 133 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: be like on their toes. And I think the point 134 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: where your your mom passed, you know, a lot of 135 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: people came about with you know, oh my god, you know, proxima. 136 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: You know, there's a next one. 137 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: And it's like I think I understood fully even when 138 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: she was here, you know, present there's no filling someone's shoes, 139 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's creating your own path with your 140 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: own damn shoes. And I think at some point, you know, 141 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: when time passed, we went our own paths, even beyond 142 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: you know, the people we were working with at the time. 143 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: And I think both of us kind of once we 144 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: were in a good place, you know, maturity falls into place, obviously, 145 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: you see things a little bit different, and then then 146 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: you're just kind of like, Okay, maybe I was wrong 147 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: about her, you know, maybe maybe things. 148 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: Aren't like this. 149 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: And I remember, I think it was in two thousand. 150 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: It was in twenty seventeen. I'd sent you flowers for 151 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: your birthday. And it's crazy, as we have a mutual 152 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: friend from Miami and I had spoken to her a 153 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: little bit about it, and she actually told me like 154 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: she because it is the sweetest person on the planet, 155 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: Like I've never heard her say anything about about anybody. 156 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: And it's crazy how much you girls are so much alike. 157 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: I think at some point when I send you flowers, 158 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, you know, I don't know what's 159 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: going to happen. She can be like, what is this, 160 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: what's the purpose of this? You didn't have regard up 161 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: with me or just simply say oh, that was really sweet, like. 162 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: I posted them. 163 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: I was so surprised, exactly, and I was like, Okay, 164 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: I have this intuition I'm super intuitive, and it's so crazy, 165 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: because so are you. 166 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: It's freaky nuts. 167 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: But I thought like, Okay, if my intuition is correct, 168 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: it's gonna make her smile. 169 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: But you know, kind of time passed. 170 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: I think like two years past it because it was 171 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: like they tell me nineteen until I forgot what it 172 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: is you posted JP and I started laughing and he's like, 173 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: don't you messenger. So she wants to grab some dinner, 174 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: like I can't do that, and he's like why, Like 175 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: I can't just do that? Like no, like I'm not 176 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: gonna just it's like, why not, you know, just just 177 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: do it? 178 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: You never know. I was like, okay, here it. 179 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: Goes so here I am like, and then I kind 180 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: of just left it alone. I'm like, okay, here, if 181 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: you want to get together sometime, you know. 182 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: Let me know. 183 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: And I think after like it was like a couple 184 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: of hours, Hey, yeah, let's do it all right. I think, No, 185 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: we didn't actually meet. I think it was till like 186 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. It mightn't even been, almost like. 187 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: A month later, like a month I think it was. 188 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: But it's so crazy. 189 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm the kind of person I always know when I 190 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: meet someone the place they're going to have in my life. 191 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 4: I always know by the way they say hello. It's 192 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: so crazy, but I always crazy. I always know. 193 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: By the first hello, the eye contact, the facial expression, 194 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: the aura, the overall vibe of that person, I can 195 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: tell the media. And I remember I walked into the 196 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 2: restaurant and I was like, Okay, here it goes. I 197 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: did a prayer in the car with. 198 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: Literally because you love you swear. 199 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know what's gonna happen. 200 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna walk in there and 201 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 2: everything's gonna flow, or if like it's gonna. 202 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: Become a you know, a play. 203 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: I honestly did not know what was gonna happen. And 204 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: I remember I walked in. I looked for you, and 205 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: You're like, Helen, I'm over here. You were waving AND's 206 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: souper cheesy, I. 207 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: I swear. 208 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: I relaxed and I was like, Okay, this is you got. 209 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 4: It's fine. It's gonna be fine. And I remember I. 210 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: Actually had to take a trip back home. I was like, okay, 211 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 2: I have maybe like an hour and a half two hours, 212 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 2: and then we have to get going. And you had 213 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: a meeting right after. It was like a like a 214 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: kind of like the lake lunch that we took. 215 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 4: We ended up being there for like five hours talking 216 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: and I remember. 217 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 3: The talking about everything. 218 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 2: The time went by so fast that I didn't even realize, 219 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: Holy mother, we've been here for five hours. 220 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: It was a great conversation. 221 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: Going back to the whole thing in you know, people 222 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: or women should I say in the industry, you guys, 223 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. I think that, Helen, and I for me, 224 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm all about women empowerment, as you guys know on 225 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: my social media and everything. But I'm not just I 226 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: don't just talk about it like I do it, you 227 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: know with lads ramparas you guys, that was the first 228 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: time in regional Mexican music and it still hasn't been 229 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: done again where three women collab on one song that's 230 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: done in rano. We see the Becky G's, Carol G's, 231 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: Anita's of that world collaborating, but it doesn't happen in 232 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: our music, in regional Mexican music. Why because I'm muchoselo, 233 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: you know. And that's the problem where I was like, no, 234 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: we have to and I've tried to get along with 235 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: all all the women in the industry. I really have 236 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: that song as it's as you guys were supposed to 237 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: be with two other girls Victoria La Mala and then 238 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: another one that I'm just not gonna mention because it's 239 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: not worth it. But Victoria, it kind of happened the 240 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: same thing. People started beef whatever. Her and I talked, 241 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: we hashed it out. We're cool as fuck. I love 242 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: Victoria La Mala, and so with Helen and Ellie because 243 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: I felt that's how you know, God's timing is perfect. 244 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: But there's just this jealousy amongst women in our industry 245 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: that it's there's only one spot for a woman, that's it, 246 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: and it's like, why should it be that way? There 247 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: is so much talent that I'm like, the way I'm 248 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: going to show that is by using my social media 249 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: posting other women's music. Because I have my own thing, 250 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: they have theirs gotta and I think that that's what 251 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: sets us apart because Helen is the same way. You know, 252 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: I see you posting, I see you get along with 253 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: so many. I think there's just one that you don't 254 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: get along with. But that's not your fault, that's you know. 255 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: But Helen's the same way. Like Helen, nois Selosa. Helen 256 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: is celebrates and that's what we need more of, you know, 257 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: celebrating women and lifting each other as you know, cliche 258 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: as it sounds united. You know, we stand stronger. But 259 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: it's true, you know, and this is what we have 260 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: to do and support women. I hate saying where women 261 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: are tearing each other down, especially on social media, and 262 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: it's just I'm not cool with that. I'm not down 263 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: with that. So Helen talk to us a little bit 264 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: about that, because you do show on your social media 265 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: that you're not just about women empowerment, like you really 266 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: do uplift other women in this industry, and I love 267 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: that about it. 268 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. You know. 269 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: It's I think it's it's tough because I I know 270 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: what it's like. I know what it's like to be 271 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: alone in the industry and not have you know, a major. 272 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: Label support, you know. 273 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: Right now, it's literally just JP and I. We hired 274 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 2: a friend of mine, you know, to help us out 275 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: when I do events or you know, when I do 276 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: other things. 277 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: I'm also an entrepreneur. I I have a little small business. 278 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: I have a small life of guys, the life of laying, 279 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: you know, and we we kind of took baby steps 280 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: in this entire thing, but I know what it's like 281 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: to not have that support, you know. Sometimes seeing it 282 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: from your colleagues feels just like so uplifting, motivating, and 283 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: and it just also kind of makes you feel like 284 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: we're in this together. 285 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 4: We have the same struggles, we have the same battles. 286 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: We know, you know that unfortunately spots for women in 287 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: the industry are very scarce, you know, so just we 288 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: have no control over that. Even if we put out 289 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: good songs, even if we do a badass video, and 290 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, we're doing promo tours and things like that. 291 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 2: Sometimes in personal still we'll have a cat let out 292 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: with like, you know, ten men that are gonna showface 293 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: at this show and there's one woman on the roster 294 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: at most. Two. 295 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: Two is already a big thing. Three absolutely unheard of. 296 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: Okay, so, but why do you think that is dumb? 297 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: I think there's a misconception about us that absolutely is 298 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: old school, and yet a lot of a lot of 299 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: people still have it. You know. I think they think 300 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: that we're doing music almost like part time, Like we're 301 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: doing music but as a hobby. Exactly, we're doing it 302 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: as a hobby. You know. We're not willing to work, 303 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: we're not willing to travel, we're you know, exactly, we're 304 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: married to somebody that's too jealous, and it's not gonna, 305 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, travel. 306 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: And do the most. Maybe it was that way. 307 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: In a lot of cases, not all of them, you know, 308 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: but in a lot of cases back in the day, 309 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: you know, back in the nineties and things like that. 310 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: But we're talking about a time where you know now, 311 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 4: like people are blowing up on social media. 312 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: You know, whenmen Ya Yaiza went viral on TikTok. I've 313 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: spoken a lot about this little girl because I absolutely 314 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: love her story. I have not seen that little girl 315 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: once complain. I've never seen that litt absolutely. 316 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: And she's dope. 317 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: As how, it's a competition must be in I feel 318 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: with the men, they're honestly our biggest competition. 319 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 4: They're the ones in the popularity list for radios. They're 320 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: the ones that you know. 321 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: Have you know, a lot more playlists sometimes, and I'm 322 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: not saying that that's the case all the time, but 323 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes I see it a lot more on 324 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: that side. On this side, you know, every playlist, you know, 325 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: they're putting more women in the cover. 326 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Arts exact, It's it's happening. It's slowly but surely happening. 327 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: I think it's just patients and traca that I personally 328 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: feel it's which I think is great that have high 329 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: and important positions that I don't know why I feel 330 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: like we don't get as much support from them. 331 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 332 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're a woman, you know what it is 333 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: to be a woman, and how difficult it must have 334 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: been for you in the corporate world to get to 335 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: that position. 336 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: Oh sah. 337 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't like our music, cool, But 338 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: it's just kind of like I know a few and 339 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm obviously not gonna name them, but it's just like ebs, 340 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: they make it a little bit more difficult. 341 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: That the powers in their hands, you know, to make 342 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: you a priority on a playlist. You know, do we 343 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: even put you on the playlist to begin with? This 344 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: is definitely a conversation that that should be had, you know, 345 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: by by everybody in the industry, because at the end 346 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: of the day, I think something that your mom did 347 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: marvelously was just Okay, you're not gonna give me a path. 348 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna show you. 349 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna create my own. 350 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make my path, and then I'm gonna make 351 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: sure you hear what I have to say. And I 352 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: think that's something that I always admired about her, and 353 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: I feel like I almost think, do we. 354 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: Do we have to have? Like about this? Kay us? 355 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: Like is that how it has to be? Like what 356 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: what's the deal here? 357 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Like? 358 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: Do we have to be do we have to be bitches? 359 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: Come on? Like you know what? 360 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: That's what my mom would always say. She's like, I 361 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: wasn't always a bitch. The industry made me a bitch 362 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: because I had to defend myself. 363 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: I remember we had that, we had had that conversation, 364 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: and it's something that I feel like, you know, damn, 365 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 2: I I still can't pinpoint it, you know exactly, but 366 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: I can definitely say that, you know, the the public has, 367 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: you know, the power to you know, the help was 368 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: and that in that I guess aspect of Okay, you know, 369 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: I don't see this song on this playlist. 370 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: Hey I want Helen's song in here. 371 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: Hey, you guys should put Tiky's song in here, especially 372 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: if we're we're consistent, we keep. 373 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 4: Putting our music. And it's a lot of money. 374 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: It's it's this takes expensive, so much money. 375 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: It's insanity. 376 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: You know, so much effort, so much of your time, 377 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: Like you know, you you put some creativity behind something, 378 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: and and I can honestly say, sometimes it can. 379 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: It can actually be. 380 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: Discouraging, you know, when oh, for sure, yeah, you put 381 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: something out of me and you're like, damn, you know, 382 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: I didn't make any playlists or I made only one, 383 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: or damn mean I'm not I'm not getting enough views, 384 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 2: you know. Let me, let me try to push this 385 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: a little bit more. But I think it's part aspecto, 386 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 2: you know, and if you if you have this like 387 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: passion for for a female artist, helper, you know, put 388 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: it out there the same thing that we do, you know, 389 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: only things like that. 390 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 4: And and it's it's you know, yeah, and normally look 391 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 4: at fast. 392 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: And I think one of the things that I also believe, 393 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: and I've talked about this recently, is that I actually 394 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: just did promo with a friend who I also collaborated with. 395 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: I specified how. 396 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: You know, women in the industry too, we we have 397 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: an obligation to have consistency. I do see some women 398 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: that come out, they'll have a really good song, but 399 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: they won't put a song out sometimes until another like 400 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: six seven months or even a year. 401 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: Things like that also kind of pushed. 402 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: Back a little bit of we're trying to like take 403 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: steps forward with because of the consistency, you know, and 404 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: I know it's expensive. 405 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 4: I get it. 406 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: It's a lot of work. It's it's it's tough to 407 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: kind of keep up because now music is being consumed so. 408 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 4: Fast that I just yeah, I think we talked about this, 409 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 4: were like, how yeah, so I'm used to last a single, 410 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 4: used to last. 411 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: Three three months months. 412 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: But in the month it's like, Okay, what else you got? 413 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 4: What else can ask? 414 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 415 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 4: Get and it's like, dude, hold on, so damn. 416 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: I spend a lot of money on that freaking song, 417 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: the mixing, the mastering, the cover are you know, the photos? 418 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: You know, holy moly, where to go? 419 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: You should be proud of yourself, though, Helen to my 420 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: listeners who haven't heard my friends music, please go listen 421 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: to it on all the digital platforms. 422 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: How old were you when you started singing? Friend? 423 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 2: I was literally I think when I started singing, I 424 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: I think more like like formally, I guess. 425 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was about eight years old. The very 426 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: first time that I like the courage to grab a mic, 427 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: I remember it was. 428 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: At my sister's kin signa and you know, we're Mexican 429 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: and during that time, my parents' budget was very small, 430 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: so they're like, okay, we want to get married. But 431 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: it's also Francisca, my sister king Sangnena, and Helen needs 432 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: to do her first communion. 433 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: We had the biggest, fattest. 434 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: Party with my parents married it my sister's kin signa 435 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 2: and my first communion. I at the moment I was 436 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: I was little, I thought it was a great idea. 437 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: Now that I'm older, I'm like, you guys are mean. 438 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: She should have had her own moment, you know, and 439 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: and yeah. But I'm like, okay, well, you know, I 440 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: guess it was done that way because my parents, you know, 441 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: they had to save money. 442 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: It was the only way to do it back in 443 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 4: the day. But basically they had a banda there. I 444 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: asked my. 445 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: Dad if I could sing with the banda. He said no, 446 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: He's like, go play with your cousins. Forget about it. 447 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: But I was like you, I was determined. I'm like, okay, 448 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna give up. So I went straight to 449 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: the band that I grabbed them. I'm gonna tell the 450 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: director I'm like, I want to sing, and he looked 451 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: at me the same way, like, oh, you're cute. I'm like, no, no, 452 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: I'm serious, fucker, I want to sing, you know what 453 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: I mean, Like I want to sing, and he's like, okay, yeah. 454 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: So I sang my very first song at that family partner. 455 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: It was the first time my dad was like, okay, like. 456 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: There's something here. Damn see you guys. The number one 457 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: thing she was persistent, okay, very important as we listened 458 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: to her story, persistence, okay, go on. Friend. 459 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: So basically he he bought me a karaoke machine. He 460 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: bought me a bunch of CDs Barrio Selena. Obviously, I 461 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: think every little girl wanted to be Selena. 462 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: We all wanted that. 463 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 464 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: I actually got the freaking purple suit made at some point, 465 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: like I actually have them a I swear it's in 466 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: there somewhere. And it wasn't until I was about sixteen. 467 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: I actually auditioned for American Idol. I may to like 468 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: the top thirty in American Idol, and then I got 469 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: cut right before they picked I. It was like fifteen 470 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: people to actually go on TV and like be and stuff. 471 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: It was the most heartbreaking thing ever. I had no clue, 472 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: you know, I was super green during that time. But 473 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 2: I went to a music teacher, a vocal coach, and 474 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: he actually was the first one that told me, you have. 475 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: A great voice, but you're singing the wrong way. You're 476 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 4: doing it. 477 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: Wrong, Like we need to teach you how to sing 478 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: where you're not going to hurt yourself. You know, you're 479 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 2: not gonna at the end of the day that like, 480 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: let's go ahead and help you. These are the techniques 481 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: so that you know you you can start molding your 482 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: voice the way you're saying that you know you want 483 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: to do it. He taught me this method of the tarzan. 484 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: Oh you taught me that one, she says to me 485 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: in a voice note once guys, yeah, stars, Yeah. 486 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: Tarzan is key for the vibratos, you know, And that's 487 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: the technique that kind of helped mold a little bit 488 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: of that style. 489 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: I guess that I always wanted to have. I always 490 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 4: wanted to do those rm B riffs. 491 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: And you know, once I started to actually understand my voice, 492 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, now I'm comfortable. But then I 493 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: went to my very first reality shows. In two thousand 494 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: and six, I competed for a recording contract. It was 495 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: an amazing experience, but that's the first time I think 496 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: that I understood that I was singing really awesome, but 497 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: I had no heart in what I was singing. And 498 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: I remember the Maestro express interpretation. He's, you know, would 499 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: write the songs out, and he tell me, Okay, let's 500 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: read the songs. 501 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 4: We're not going to sing them. 502 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna read every line and we're gonna understand what 503 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: this song means and the way it's supposed to be sung. 504 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: And I think it wasn't until then that I realized, 505 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: holy moly, I'm not singing from the heart. This is 506 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: just you know songs to me, like they're not stories. 507 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: And I think once I understood you know that part, 508 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: you know, it kind of became second nature to me. 509 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: We talked about this recently. Friend. 510 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: You know, you have a really cool song that I 511 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: absolutely love it. Honestly, it's my all time favorite song 512 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 2: I think you've recorded. I love this song. 513 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 4: I love that song. I love I love the lyrics. 514 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: I love all of it, the whole little beat, the 515 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: the whole melody of that song. 516 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 3: The lyrics, it's a vibe, the whole thing is friend. Yeah, and. 517 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: This is what it's about. 518 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: Are you writing like right now? 519 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: Songs like what's what's in the pipeline right now, I am, and. 520 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: I think it's definitely something I'm losing fear on and 521 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm trying to give myself the opportunity to write a 522 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: little more. 523 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 4: On this one. 524 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 3: I'm excited. Do you have the name of it already? 525 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: Not just yet, but I'm thinking you actually gave me 526 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: a really good idea, which is Missus. You had given 527 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: me the idea see, and I think I think it 528 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: might be Missus Santos or I might wait to do 529 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: a Missus Santos that is a little more like Lovelace. 530 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: Yes, so to speak. 531 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to kind of go with what songs 532 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: are on. You're gonna know, you're gonna fill it in 533 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: your heart. You guys, let me tell you, not only 534 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: is my friend an amazing singer, she's a wife, but 535 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: her husband lets her like allows her to be herself, 536 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: especially on stage. I need to go watch see you 537 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: on stage like soon. Friend, she's a dog mom and 538 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: she's a blinger. Okay, so before we go, I really 539 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: need you to share friend your Instagram handles and also 540 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: she's blinged out my mic you guys, Yes, I have 541 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: a hat that I just wore for my LA show. 542 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: She blinged out my hat a lot. 543 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: I have like a couple cups from her, a few actually, 544 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: so we have Life of Bling. So if you want to, 545 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, share your social media friend all of them. 546 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: Please do song my friend. 547 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much you guys at Helen underscorel toa. 548 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: That's how I am on Instagram at Life of Bling. 549 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: But the life is with the why. It's spelled with 550 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: the why. I know I'm weird. 551 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: I like it though, you guys, she's amazing. To make 552 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: sure you follow her listen to her music as soon. 553 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: Before I let you go. 554 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: As you know, I always leave you with a motivational quote, 555 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: so I thought this one was fitting. 556 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: The quote is a true friend. 557 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: Accepts who you are, but also helps you become who 558 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: you should be. Thank you so much for listening. Hopefully 559 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: you know you learned a little something and enjoyed this podcast. 560 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: AI and Chiki's and Chill. Do you need advice on love, relationships, 561 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: health emas. 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