WEBVTT - Feeling Lost? Finding Your Way Through Saturn Return - From Almost 30, Lindsey and Krista on How to Navigate Through This Astrological Event 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.719 In the book, we say you're not behind, You're becoming. 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.880 And I just love that sentiment and that phrase, because 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.080 for so long I felt like I was behind. I 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.280 wasn't married at the right time, I wasn't with kids 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.360 at the right time, I wasn't making this amount of money, 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.360 and I just had to go through everything I went 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:17.759 through to become the woman I am today, which is 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.560 a woman that I love and that I'm so proud 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.119 to be. And so for anyone listening, just remembering that that, 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:23.400 like every day, you're becoming. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.520 Today. We have the incredible Krista Williams and Lindsay Simmek. 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.960 They are the co hosts of the Almost thirty podcast 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.800 and now authors of their first book, Almost thirty, A 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.120 Definitive Guide to a life you love for the next 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.800 decade and beyond. They started out as two best friends 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.360 recording their conversations sitting in their closet, and now nine 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.600 years later, they've built a global community the whole space 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.159 for everything from spiritual growth to career pivots and everything 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.600 in between. I haven't anyone to talk about astrology on this, 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.720 so let's go what is that in return? 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.880 And we're not experts, but when we learned this. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.680 It was a complete unlocked It's a season of life 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:58.680 that we were in, or for. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.240 Most people, their living life before that time just kind 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.800 of programmed with what society tells them to do, what 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.959 their parents want them to be, and they're living a 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.319 life that may not be aligned to their soul but 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:09.679 to external things. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:13.080 This period of your life is actually it feels like 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.039 it's crumbling, but it is truly coming together for you. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.880 This is really an opportunity to get in right relationship 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.039 with change, because you're going to change throughout your whole life. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:23.800 We only need like magic in our life. I feel 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.839 like everything is so practical, so logical, so theoretical. Everyone's 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.840 like one thing to another, and then you think, but 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:34.280 where's the magic in life? I'm radi WKA and on 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.000 my podcast a really good Cry. We embrace the messy 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.840 and the beautiful, providing a space for raw, unfielded conversations 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.440 that celebrate vulnerability and allow you to tune in to learn, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.000 connect and find comfort together. Yes, thank you so much 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.080 for being here. I am so happy to have you 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.600 both here. I feel like I've known you for I 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.240 don't know how many years. How many years has it 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:57.800 been since we first met. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.880 Oh, I think you yeah, something like that. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.680 It's been four years and I was in LA at 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.680 the time. Yes, and you were one of the first 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.400 podcasts that I actually came on. And you were both 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.200 so gracious, so loving, so kind, and I felt such 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.320 a great energy connection when we first met. So this 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:16.640 is so exciting for me. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.440 It also feels so special. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.440 And I remember you were one of those people, same 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.280 with Jay, that you meet in person and you're like 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:26.720 just in awe that you are everything and more that 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.240 people see. And I'll also never forget when you did 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.120 camp for us, so we have a virtual event camp 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.200 that you did and you were telling us. You're like, 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.079 I'm so nervous. I'm like, how is she? Oh my gosh, 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:40.440 always tell us it was literally the sweetest, most endearing love. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.919 I was like, she's even amazing when she's nervous. I'm like, 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:43.560 what is going on? 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.720 It was just such a It was such a thing. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.960 So it's been so beautiful to know you and see you, 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.720 and we're very grateful to be here. 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.680 You guys definitely help with my confidence, you know, coming 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.840 on the show and then doing that, I felt like 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.480 it boosted my confidence. The more I was doing something. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.400 So thank you guys for trusting me and having me on. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.040 I stop by asking because you both started recording your 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.519 podcast in a closet, which I had no idea about, 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.480 and now it's a top fifty podcast, which is absolutely insane. 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.880 What was some of the pivotal moments that really helped 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.440 to define where you are now? Like, tell me some 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.360 of the moments through that journey. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.680 Lindsay and I started on our closet floors. Yes, so 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.480 you can start anything at any place. We had no 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.520 intention of almost thirty becoming anything. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:24.920 You know. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.920 I was in the corporate world. I was really struggling 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.640 in my career and job. I wasn't happy, I didn't 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.639 feel aligned or on purpose. And when we met each other, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.920 we were just having these really deep, meaningful conversations that 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:41.040 felt exciting, that felt truthful, that felt authentic, and I 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.680 feel like the way that I was living, I wasn't 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.120 having that with anyone else, and so we were like, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.160 let's start a podcast, we guess and do it on 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.480 our closet floors. It was twenty sixteen, so things weren't 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.840 really happening then, But over the years, I think some 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.520 of the pivotal moments for us of building Almost thirty 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.680 and stepping out into our purpose of doing the podcast. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:00.560 I would say quitting my full. 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.880 Time job, quitting our full time jobs was huge because 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.960 we built Almost thirty as like a side hustle. You know, 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.560 I was so you guys can hear the desperation. I 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.119 was so desperate to get out of the corporate world 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.560 that I really wanted it to work. And so that 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.920 moment where I could put in my two weeks because 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.040 we had built the business for two years, we had 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.960 learned to monetize it, We learned to hire a team 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.440 and go on tour and do all these things that 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.599 I never dreamed of doing, felt really really special and 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.200 I just felt so proud that we were able to 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.520 monetize our gifts and monetize our service. So for me, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.040 for sure, quitting my full time job, I was like, yes, 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:35.040 this is it. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.039 And then we were able to like really lean in 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.000 one hundred percent, which I think really accelerated what we 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.400 were doing. And I think the other differentiator in our 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:49.039 growth was just creating community. I think when you host 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.440 a podcast, it is it is really easy to be 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.719 behind the mic and kind of have this really intimate 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.120 feel and that is so special and I think people 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.560 feel that. But we decided to really get out there 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.200 in real life very early on. I remember in the 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.840 early days, we hosted a soul cycle class for all of. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.840 Our listeners, thirty of them. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.120 It was sixty they showed up. But then, you know, 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.560 two years in also we went on tour. No one 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.120 asked us to go on tour, but we were like, 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:18.599 we want. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.880 To meet everyone. Yeah, so we literally toured the world. 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.479 We went to Sydney, Australia, we went to London, we 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.080 went all over the US. It was incredible and I 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.680 think that really it was different at the time. You know, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.200 people weren't going on tour for podcasting. They weren't meeting 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.679 their listeners in person necessarily, and so I really feel 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.920 like that boots on the ground, you know energy where 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.960 people are like, oh wow, I met people in their community, 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.520 I met them, I love listening to the show. It 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.400 just it made it three D I think for people. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.720 So I think that was a huge part of our 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:52.719 growth in the beginning too. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.599 Yeah, and I'll just say last thing on this, I'll 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.000 never forget. We were in Sydney for tour and there 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.279 was a woman there that had a really rare brain 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.200 cancer and she was telling her story to our community, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.320 and then there was another woman there that had something 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:09.039 similar and just it really showed the power of connection 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.000 and vulnerability and being in person. And We've had so 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.360 many moments like that over the years where it doesn't 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.080 really involve us per se, but it involves the space 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.440 we created to allow women to show up. And those 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.440 kind of moments of people connecting and authenticity and truth 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.400 and finding healing together have been like the best. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.640 And how many years has it been now that you've 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:30.560 been doing this together? 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:31.839 Nine years? 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.960 Yeah, so from when you started to now, what has 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.719 changed for you both? Like in terms of one the 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.120 way that you see the service that you have, has 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.680 it changed it all? And two working together to work 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.080 together with someone that you consider a close friend or 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.560 a best friend and to navigate that and for you 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.200 to be successful for nine years, because I've had stories 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.880 of people trying to do that. How has that been 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:57.880 and how did you make it through? That would have 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:58.839 been some of the challenges. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.960 Yeah, think the number one reason why businesses fail is 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.839 because entrepreneurs or co founders don't work. So it's actually 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.560 like statistically proven that most entrepreneurs and co founders don't work, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.679 so especially as women, it can be hard to maintain 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.840 long term friendships. I'd love to hear you know your 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.080 friendship view right now, But I'm someone that struggled with 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.000 female friendships my whole life. Like I'm just a very 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.560 deep feeler and I probably was a toxic one. I 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.520 was probably with toxic people, you know, kind of did 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:26.560 that dance the whole time. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.440 But meeting Lindsay and having a. 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.320 Greater purpose that we were serving through almost thirty really 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.400 helped us to prioritize like what we were doing and 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.320 who we were. So over the years of building the business, 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.600 we've changed completely. Like I started, I was in a 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.280 long term relationship that turned marriage. You were single. Now 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.600 she's married with a baby. I'm single on the street. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.000 So we've changed a lot. But what I think has 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:53.480 made our relationship so strong is having values, having similar values, 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.320 and then doing things like clearing conversations, you know, which 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.680 Lindsay's so powerful to speak to, But we always make 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.600 sure that we're going to show up authentically and truthfully 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.920 and make sure we prioritize the right thing, which is 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:06.720 our relationship. 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.680 Over the business. Yeah, those clearing conversations. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.440 I'll just break down for a hot second, because I 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.840 think any friendship, any business partnership, any marriage can benefit 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.520 from them. A clearing conversation, the intention is just a 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.760 clear distortion in your relationship field. And we all know 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.480 what that feels like. You know, it's a just a 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.640 you know that not in your stomach, and it's that 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.960 psychic sense that a lot is being said but not 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:35.560 actually being said out loud. And the clearing conversation is really, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.960 you know, an intentional meeting between two people where you 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.640 can come with truth, honesty, respect and love and be 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.160 a really great listener and a really great communicator. And 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.880 Kristin and I often do these on walks. You know, 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.040 it's proven that, you know, moving your body while you're 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.600 having a conversation actually allows you to speak more of 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:02.640 your truth and also staring ahead and not I to eye. 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:04.960 It's a very primal thing to be eye to eye 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.080 with someone and feel like you're in fight or flight 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.600 if it is a hard conversation. And so that really 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:14.080 helps the body to relax, the minds relax, and you know, 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.680 our intention when we do these things is just to 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.480 be really honest and we know that coming into it, Yes, 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.400 you know, so it's not it's like I know that 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:26.640 Christa is coming with her heart leading rather than you know, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.520 her dumping just a ton of stuff in my lap 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.520 and blaming me. We use a lot of eye statements 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.839 that it could sound like, you know, the story I've 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.120 been telling myself is that you know, I'm not valuable 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.920 in this partnership, and I just feel like I'm I'm 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.480 kind of not helping you. I feel like you're round 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.360 of doing the most, which is the story I've told 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:52.080 myself before. And then we're able to take responsibility and 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:56.400 then also hear their own story, so they're just the best. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:57.760 Because you leave. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:02.079 Feeling heard, you leave feeling just lighter, you know. And 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.440 this is normal in relationship for the fuel to get 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.880 a little fuzzy, for the ebb and flow. It's not 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.920 always going to be perfect, but if you allow for 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:15.720 that and make room to clear, your relationships are going 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:17.240 to be ten times healthier. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.080 I love that so much. I feel like growing up 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.440 in well one, I was thinking about clearing conversation I 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:24.360 need to have with someone. 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.920 Else, like story of my crying, I mean, like. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.400 Thinking about doing it for a while, and it just 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.120 keeps getting put off, keeps getting put off. But it 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.760 was something where I was like, I'm just going to 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.120 leave it. It doesn't need to be said. But then it's 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.360 like stopping me from seeing the person. It's stopping me 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.360 from actually having a relationship with them, because there's you know, 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.960 it's almost like it may not be a physical barrier, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.920 but it might as well be, because it becomes like that, 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:53.000 doesn't it. The longer you leave something, the bigger it gets, 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.000 and it calcifies and it's harder to work your way 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.240 through it. But I also think I was thinking about 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.280 my family, and you know, many families have had I 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.839 don't know a family that hasn't. We've had so many 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.520 ups and downs to our extended family, and I would 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.000 always say, why can't we all just sit together and 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.720 talk about it? And everyone thinks that's the more complicated option, 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.439 and I'm like, how is that the more complicated option? 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:18.520 This is the more complicated option. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.679 It's sitting in the suffering of this, just the looping, 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.559 you know, of the stories, the conversation, and it is 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.960 it's like getting up the courage to say the thing, 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:28.600 and then once it's over, you're. 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.400 Like, I'm free, I'm liberated. Like it feels so much better, and. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.320 It's so beautiful that you both both work in the 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.440 same way. Your mind and heart are working in the 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.360 same way, where you actually, you know, sometimes we jeopardize 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.440 ourselves or we are self sabotage by not having those conversations. Yeah, 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.040 because it allows us to be the victim. And you're like, oh, okay, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.160 I'm going to be the victim. This makes me feel 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.280 so much better. That person must be wrong and therefore, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.319 in some way, we make ourselves feel superior, whereas when 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.480 you end up clearing, you're both on a level playing field. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.520 How beautiful that you've been able to do that for 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.040 nine years. You guys should be so proud of yourself 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:02.199 with that. 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.880 We can work. Though we can work. Oh, I remember 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.040 the very first one that I had. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.160 It was like it was like probably a year in 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.480 and it had built up so much and I was like, 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:12.559 this isn't. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:12.880 Working, you know. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.280 I like, yeah, it was like messy, and I was like, 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.840 this isn't working. And I was probably only doing you 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.480 statements and I was probably so unregulated and it was 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.080 just a mess. But like we committed to growth and 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.760 coming back towards one another, and also therapy. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.960 Yeah, you know, like they so hopeful. Lindsay went to 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.040 therapy first. I was like, oh, I can't. I don't 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.400 trust anybody. I'm not going to Thank god you led 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:34.840 the way. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.120 But therapy also helps so that we can kind of 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.640 process the messiness of it all and kind of get 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.760 clear with that, so that anything that would be hurtful 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.000 that we would potentially say to one another, we're kind 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.040 of clearing with our therapist. So it's like there is 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.960 availability and room for messy. There is availability in room 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.760 to you know, not be perfectly polished and posed every 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.080 time you speak, and therapy allows you to do that, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.960 so I can come to her as loving as possible. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.400 My therapist will also be like, hm, this seems like 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.160 a pattern that you're in, or this seems like you 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:05.280 know something's going on. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.440 It's also unrealistic to think that any relationship wouldn't have 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.960 those problems, wouldn't have some sort of resistance. It's just 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.960 whether it's the things that we experience outside of those 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.760 relationships that end up seeping into them, or whether it's 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.200 the conversations or lack of understanding of tone, or you know, 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.400 I think tone plays such a big part if you 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.920 haven't If you may say something in one way, the 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.680 person receives it in another way. And so I just 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.640 I love that. I think clearing conversations need to be 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:33.559 done with everyone. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:34.480 And you're like. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:39.240 Talking to yourself. Yes, I'm gonna text you to be like, girl, 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:39.880 did you do that? Clear? 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.800 Has your definition of success changed from when you started 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:47.880 or would you say it stayed the same? Oh? 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.720 Yeah, I mean I think that's something we're still kind 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:56.880 of redefining as we go along these nine years. I 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.240 think for me in the beginning, success was very very 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:08.640 goal oriented, rather than really defining success as enjoyment and 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:13.040 presence in the process. I think when you're starting a 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:17.599 creative project, you know, especially a podcast, a lot of 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.160 things can roll in, like the expectations of downloads, numbers, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.320 who's listening, who's not, what guests do we have on 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:29.000 the show. Just lots of metrics that can distort the 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.520 true feeling of success. And I've had to go that 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.120 far and kind of get overwhelmed by that and then 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:39.840 come back more recently, like we wrote our book and 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.360 the other day I was just like, girl, you wrote 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.640 a book that is that is the successful part of 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.920 this process what happens after? You know, I want it 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.440 to be in as many hands as possible. I want 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.080 people to be impacted all over the world. But that 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.400 is not a metric that is a part of my 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.520 true success around this book. So I've just got had 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.720 to get clear every step of the way because we're human, 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.360 you know, Like I'll let those things kind of seep in. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:14.520 But I've really become obsessed with am I enjoying the process? 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.920 Am I myself in this process? And am I present here? 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.120 I don't want to look back and be like wow, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.720 like I didn't really enjoy creating this because I was 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.720 so wrapped up in well, like what do people want 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.880 from me, and just kind of like pulling out strings 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.240 that I could be using to really create something great. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.560 Yeah, this one is one of my struggles in life. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.000 You know. I think for me, success has always been 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.600 that thing that I chase and that I desire. And 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.080 what I realized oftentimes was that when I was chasing 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.120 a number, I knew I was off track. If it 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.000 was a number related to my weight, if it was 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.320 number related to money, if it was a number related 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.160 to followers, or likes or purchases or you know, all 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.880 these things that were externally focused on something that could 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:03.120 be deduced to another I'm off track because whether I 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.920 weigh a certain amount, you know, whatever amount, it's like, 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.400 how do I feel on my body if I'm impacting 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.920 five million people or five Like, impacting one person's life 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.960 positively is huge, And so I always kind of come 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.120 back to like outside of numbers, like how do I 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.080 feel like my success now? Is how much fun I'm having? 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.000 I'm like, am I enjoying the process? And for writing 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.800 the book? You know, the process of writing was so 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.720 much fun, and we were just talking a little bit 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.080 before and then you get to the part where you're 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.560 like marketing it and selling it, which is so much 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.360 fun in a dream. But for that perfectionist part of 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.560 me and that part of me that feels like I'm 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.320 never good enough, it's been just a challenge, you know, 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.000 to show up. And so I've had to really come 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.200 to like this is for me to enjoy, Like I 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.920 am able to have fun, I'm able to enjoy the process, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.200 and being successful would be like loving what I'm doing 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.400 and loving who I am. And so now it's so 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.040 much more than a number or anything external. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:58.800 It's a feeling. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.280 And how have you guys moved from because I think, 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:04.560 you know, I'm sure many people can relate to that. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.440 How have you moved from the mindset of numbers, whether 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.760 it is on a scale, to do with your body 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.080 or to do with your work, to how you are now? 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.600 Do you have any practices or anything specific and tangible 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.160 that people can do to allow themselves that journey. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.440 Yeah, this is a simple one, but it's just kind 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.879 of trained my mind to sync up with my heart. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.719 But I put an alarm on my phone to like 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.800 check in during the day. Oftentimes I'm doing creative things 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:37.359 or in our business in whatever way, and I can 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.439 get very serious very quickly and then kind of wrapped 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:45.119 up in what I haven't done yet, or you know, yeah, 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.159 just kind of the lack and the alarm on my 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:53.360 phone is there's various ones, but it's like check in. 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.679 It's like checking in with the heart. So it's like, 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.720 how are you really feeling in this moment, and how 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.399 can you invite in more joys? And so it's a 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:06.240 little corny, but it's actually trained me. I don't necessarily 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.280 need the alarm now all the time. Because I can 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.879 just really check in in those moments that I feel 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.600 myself getting a little rigid, a little serious, a little 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.000 wrapped up in the mind and what it's saying, how 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.200 it's making meaning about what I'm doing, and really just 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.159 dropping down into my heart and just being like, Okay, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.159 how does this feel? How can you invite in a 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.760 little bit more joy to this? Because at the end 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:30.760 of the day, and we talk about this in the book, 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:34.360 like the soul of ours is just like having a blast, 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.880 like this is an adventure, So how can we take 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.520 on more of like how she's experiencing this rather than 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.800 like this, you know, the mind's kind of like heaviness 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:45.120 and trudging through everything. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:47.320 I love that that's so useful. 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.320 I think for me whenever I have moments where I'm 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.280 really feeling good or on purpose, I just like to 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.439 double click on it and just pause, like I like 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.000