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Speaker 1: to be. And so for anyone listening, just remembering that that,

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Speaker 1: like every day, you're becoming.

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Speaker 2: Today. We have the incredible Krista Williams and Lindsay Simmek.

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Speaker 2: They are the co hosts of the Almost thirty podcast

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Speaker 2: and now authors of their first book, Almost thirty, A

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Speaker 2: Definitive Guide to a life you love for the next

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Speaker 2: decade and beyond. They started out as two best friends

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Speaker 2: recording their conversations sitting in their closet, and now nine

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Speaker 2: years later, they've built a global community the whole space

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Speaker 2: for everything from spiritual growth to career pivots and everything

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Speaker 2: in between. I haven't anyone to talk about astrology on this,

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Speaker 2: so let's go what is that in return?

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Speaker 3: And we're not experts, but when we learned this.

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Speaker 4: It was a complete unlocked It's a season of life

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Speaker 4: that we were in, or for.

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Speaker 1: Most people, their living life before that time just kind

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Speaker 1: of programmed with what society tells them to do, what

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Speaker 4: This period of your life is actually it feels like

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Speaker 4: it's crumbling, but it is truly coming together for you.

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Speaker 4: This is really an opportunity to get in right relationship

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Speaker 4: with change, because you're going to change throughout your whole life.

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Speaker 2: We only need like magic in our life. I feel

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Speaker 2: like everything is so practical, so logical, so theoretical. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: like one thing to another, and then you think, but

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Speaker 2: where's the magic in life? I'm radi WKA and on

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Speaker 2: my podcast a really good Cry. We embrace the messy

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Speaker 2: and the beautiful, providing a space for raw, unfielded conversations

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Speaker 2: that celebrate vulnerability and allow you to tune in to learn,

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Speaker 2: connect and find comfort together. Yes, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for being here. I am so happy to have you

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Speaker 2: both here. I feel like I've known you for I

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Speaker 2: don't know how many years. How many years has it

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think you yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 2: It's been four years and I was in LA at

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Speaker 2: the time. Yes, and you were one of the first

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Speaker 2: so gracious, so loving, so kind, and I felt such

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Speaker 3: It also feels so special.

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Speaker 1: And I remember you were one of those people, same

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Speaker 1: It was just such a It was such a thing.

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Speaker 2: So thank you guys for trusting me and having me on.

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Speaker 2: I stop by asking because you both started recording your

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Speaker 1: Lindsay and I started on our closet floors. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: you can start anything at any place. We had no

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Speaker 2: that they're really great tips. Actually, thank you for that.

439
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Speaker 2: I would love to dig into the book because I

440
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 2: actually didn't know much about Saturn returns. For anyone listening

441
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: the book is I think it starts off with Saturn return,

442
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Yes, it starts off with your Saturn return.

443
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 2: And I want to start off by asking what is

444
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 2: Saturn return because I don't know whether everybody knows what

445
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 2: it is.

446
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so okay, let's go on an astrological journey.

447
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,959
Speaker 2: Yes, I haven't anyone talk about astrology on this, so

448
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 2: let's go.

449
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 3: And we're not experts.

450
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 4: But when we learned this, it was a complete unlocked

451
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 4: to the season of life that we were in, and

452
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 4: really any season of change. So your Saturn return is

453
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 4: when Saturn the planet comes back to the place in

454
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 4: the sky it was when you were born and this planet.

455
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 4: Think of it like your cosmic dad. He's coming in

456
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 4: very lovingly, but maybe a little more tough love, and

457
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 4: is asking you to look at aspects of your life

458
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 4: that are aligned and aspects that are not. And those

459
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 4: misalignments are usually the ones that during this period of

460
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 4: your life between twenty seven and twenty nine and a

461
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 4: half almost thirty, that feel like they're falling apart. You know,

462
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,959
Speaker 4: it feels like you should be in a different place

463
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 4: and things aren't just working or clicking. You might feel

464
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 4: incredibly insecure or looking around feeling like everyone has it

465
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 4: together and you do not. But man, you know, this

466
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 4: period of your life is actually it feels like it's crumbling,

467
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 4: but it is truly coming to get for you. And

468
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: when we realized this, we had an astrologer on our

469
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 4: show very early on and she said, you guys are

470
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 4: in your Saturn return. We were like, oh my, Like

471
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 4: it just changed everything. Like if you're not crazy, yeh,

472
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 4: to know to no one, to understand on a cosmic level,

473
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 4: you know, if you kind of bring that into the

474
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 4: room was so liberating. We were like, oh, there's a

475
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 4: purpose here and it made so much sense. So all

476
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 4: that to say you know, this is really an opportunity

477
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: to get get in right relationship with change because you're

478
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 4: going to change throughout your whole life, and also see

479
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 4: some of the themes that Saturn brings to you and

480
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 4: brings up to you that might reoccur throughout your life,

481
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 4: but this one is going to be the most intense

482
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 4: this period, and then you'll be able to kind of understand, oh,

483
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 4: this is what I'm working with in life, and this

484
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 4: is what I can really meet and commit to grown

485
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: through rather than avoiding and staying stock.

486
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Speaker 2: And does does it any happen once in your life?

487
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: No? So hopefully you know it could happen three times,

488
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 4: So at twenty nine and a half or so, and

489
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: then again around fifty eight, fifty nine, and then in

490
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: your nineties for the third time.

491
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, imagine your nineties being like why am

492
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: I even here?

493
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: Because it's lighter and lighter. That's when you're like, it's

494
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: all good.

495
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Speaker 1: Well aligns to people's quarter life crisis, mid life crisis.

496
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Speaker 1: It's kind of around that time period too, so much

497
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: since and then around twenty seven to around twenty seven

498
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: is when your prefrontal cortex comes online. So basically it's

499
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: when you become conscious. So a lot of times for

500
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: most or for most people, they're living life before that

501
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: time just kind of programmed with what society tells them

502
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: to do, what their parents want them to be, and

503
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: they're living a life that may not be aligned to

504
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: their soul but to external things. And so when your

505
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: prefrontal cortex comes online, it's like really that time where

506
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: you're thinking existentially, You're like, what.

507
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: Am I here to do? Who am I here to be?

508
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: What is going on? And it can be really really

509
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: it can be kind of scary for if you have

510
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: it for the first time. And so for any way

511
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: that we can help understand that period, whether it's astrology

512
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: or whether it's you know, brain development, we wanted people

513
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: to feel less alone and feeling like they were lost,

514
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: or feeling like they were questioning what they knew, and

515
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: that they wanted to live a better, more aligned life.

516
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 2: I for sure went through that.

517
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: Please, I was like, we need to hear from from Yeah, I.

518
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: Think it was. It was during the time when I

519
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: moved to New York. So not only was I going

520
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: through that, I then had extreme external change. So I

521
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,239
Speaker 2: honestly felt like I went through a mini breakdown when

522
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: I moved to New York because all the things that

523
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: I had valued or thought about myself had also come

524
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: from external people. Because I was the youngest, I was

525
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: a younger child. Everything was like fed to me, told

526
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: to me. And then I moved to New York, which

527
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: was an extreme external change for me. I never wanted

528
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: to leave, and all of those things mixed together, new friends,

529
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: new place, not being able to work there. Just everything

530
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, this is what mid life

531
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: crisis must feel like. But I'm not midlife yet. And

532
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: it was the biggest growth phase I have ever been

533
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 2: through my life, and it is what has shaped my

534
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: ability to be able to move through resistance and to

535
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: be able to do things that I would have normally

536
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: said no to, to be able to say for my

537
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 2: mind to know that even though this is hard, you've

538
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: done it before, you could do it again. Because that

539
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: was a really rough time. And so I actually now

540
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: my mom says this all the time. She was like,

541
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: she was there's a caterpillar butterfly thing, but if she

542
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: really felt like she saw me go through that phase

543
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: of my life where it was really rough, and she

544
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: was like and suddenly then I just saw you seem

545
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: so at ease and like bloom, And when I look

546
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: back at it, I really do bird's eye view, I'm like, wow,

547
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: that was such a transitional phase. But the biggest growth

548
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: spat that I had way bigger than when I like

549
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: hit puberty.

550
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you feel like?

551
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: Was like the area or areas of your life that

552
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 4: were being like kind of highlighted as like, hey, this

553
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 4: is totally unaligned right now.

554
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: You got to look at this worth.

555
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: Wow, mine was fully work with worth. And you know,

556
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: I was watching Jay at that time where he was

557
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: fully in his purpose, like it was the beginning of

558
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: him really being in it. And I was in this

559
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: place where I was like, what am I even here for?

560
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: Like?

561
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: What am I doing here? What is my role? What

562
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: is my service? Why am i him? I'm meant to

563
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: just be a wife. I want to be a wife,

564
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: But am I just meant to be a wife? Like,

565
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: because that's what it feels like right now? I've got

566
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: nothing else going for me. And it was definitely self

567
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: worth in realizing that, oh my gosh, I built all

568
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: my self worth on other people's view of me. And

569
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: then it was interesting because when I then flowed into

570
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: being someone online. It was really tricky not making not

571
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: transitioning that worth into online with but I think I

572
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: luckily came into deeper spiritual practices during that time, and

573
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: obviously you eb and flow through it, but it was

574
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: definitely a self worth thing for me that really came

575
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: to surface.

576
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the deepening of the spiritual practices is

577
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: what anchored and grounded us in such a way. And

578
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: I know I had been a spiritual little being my

579
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: whole life, but it was finding that true sense of

580
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: spirituality in my own unique way, because your spirituality is

581
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: different than mine and different than yours, and having that

582
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: foundation and having that belief in a co collaboration was

583
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: something bigger than me, and the trust and the knowing

584
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: that if I believe that this is all on me,

585
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: that that's when I know off the path. You know,

586
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: of course, in Miracles talks about that. It talks about

587
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: if we believe that it's all on us, then we

588
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: already know that we're not there. That the fear really

589
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: comes in when we believe that we have to shoulder

590
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: it all. And so my belief in something greater, in

591
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: a greater path, and my soul in a greater purpose

592
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: was really the thing that sort of brought me out

593
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: of it and brought me into a deeper sense of

594
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: purpose and self that like became an anchor.

595
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. And when you think of yourself,

596
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: when you think it's not just you, you believe so much

597
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: more can happen. Yes, it's that thing of like, Okay,

598
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: I know I'm limited in certain ways because yes, physically

599
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: I can only run this far and mentally I can

600
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: only do this much. But then when you add a

601
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: sprinkle of something beyond you into it, you're like, oh, actually,

602
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: I know, I kind of it, but.

603
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: You leave room for so much.

604
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: Divine might be able to do it. Together, we might

605
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 2: be able to do it.

606
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: Yes, there are no limits to divine, like there are

607
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: no limits. And when I can get out of my

608
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: limited mind of this is what I can do, this

609
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: is what's possible, and just like surrendered till it's possible,

610
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I only can taste how good it

611
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: can get.

612
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: We only need like magic in our life. I feel

613
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: like everything is so practical, so logical, so theoretical. Everyone's

614
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: like one thing to another, and then you think, but

615
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: where's the magic in life? I know where do we

616
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: where do we get this magic from? And you know,

617
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: I guess we will feel that in our spiritual practices.

618
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, to anyone listening, like where do you get

619
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: that magic from? Like where do you feel that extra

620
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: spark of something beyond your physical self?

621
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: We were driving here and there was an adopt the highway.

622
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 4: It was like, wait, yes, atheist something some atheist united

623
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 4: and respect and love. But also I just had that

624
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: feeling of like, oh, it made me think of anyone

625
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: who just shoulders life, just feeling like they have to

626
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: figure it out themselves, you know, and how happy that

627
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: can be.

628
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: What are some of your daily spiritual practices that you

629
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: find help you.

630
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I think for me prayer is just the best. And

631
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: prayer can look different for everyone, but for me, prayer

632
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: has all the benefits of meditation. It's that quiet time,

633
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: it's that nervous system regulation, and it's really that conversation

634
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: with my soul and my conversation with my guides or God.

635
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: And it's really the moments when I just the most clear,

636
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: I just get the most dialed and I can give

637
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: whatever stress or anxiety up. One of my favorite practices

638
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: and rituals to do at the end of the day.

639
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: I'll pray in the morning, and I pray at night,

640
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: and I praying throughout the day pretty much. But one

641
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: of my favorite practices is to imagine myself walking up

642
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: to an altar, Like in my mind's eye, I'll be

643
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: walking up to this beautiful altar in the sky or

644
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: nature wherever, and I'll just imagine myself giving up any stress,

645
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: any anxiety, anything that I'm shouldering or holding in my

646
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: life to this altar. So anything I'm ruminating on, like oh,

647
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm fearful of this, I'm scared of this, this clearing

648
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: conversation I have to do. You know, this sickness that

649
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: my dad has, all these things, I just put it

650
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: on the altar and imagine it being taken care of

651
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: in a greater way than I could have ever imagined.

652
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: And I imagine it's cellularly leaving my body so that

653
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: I can feel free.

654
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: Wow.

655
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: And you know that type of feeling of being taken

656
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: care of, of possibility of stress, reduction of peace is

657
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: so so nourishing and it's been so helpful for me.

658
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: It's beautiful the altar in your heart.

659
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can imagine you can sometimes my altar

660
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: is like covered and leave. Sometimes it's like gemstones, it's

661
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: like this decorated.

662
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: It's just so beautiful.

663
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: It's a really beautiful song in our practice, and it

664
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: says mona mon there, and that's exactly what it means,

665
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: creating an altar or temple in your heart. It's honestly

666
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: why I got this tattoo recently. Actually it's a little

667
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: temple and it's mana Mandere. I'll send it to you.

668
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: It's in Sanskrit, but you'll feel it. You don't need

669
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: to really know what it's saying. But it's all about

670
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: creating this temple in your heart space and doing exactly

671
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: what you said. And that's beautiful having that surrender. What

672
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: about you?

673
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: So as a new mom, to be honest, it's been

674
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: I had my two hour routine in the morning before baby,

675
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: and I would have all my practices I'll set and

676
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: it's been really cool to kind of, you know, redefine

677
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: like what those practices look like for me. How do

678
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: I connect with God? How do I connect with my soul?

679
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: And prayer is absolutely part of my practice, but I've

680
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: also found just you know, where can I find beauty

681
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: and reverence for my life in these like very mundane moments,

682
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: you know. So my son will get up in the

683
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 4: morning and I go in and you know, we have

684
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: our time and our cozy chair and we just like

685
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: are cheek to cheek looking out at Brooklyn and you know,

686
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 4: just having that moment together and I just cherish that

687
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: and I feel I feel God in that moment, and

688
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: I feel just fully fully held and fully connected heart

689
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: to heart with my son. And it's just in those

690
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: mundane moments I've found the same feeling I desired before baby,

691
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 4: you know, in those spiritual practices to be there as well.

692
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: So if anyone is listening and they're feeling so busy

693
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 4: right now, my life is just in flux.

694
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: I whether you had a baby, or.

695
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: Maybe you're moving, or maybe you're changing careers and you

696
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: just feel like the thought of trying to incorporate a

697
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 4: longer spiritual routine throughout your day feels too much. Just

698
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: know that it can happen in an instant, you know,

699
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: you can.

700
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: You can pray in an instant.

701
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: You can you know, just touch your heart in an

702
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: instant and connect to your soul.

703
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be you.

704
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 4: Know, cross legged in the middle of a room with

705
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: candles and all these things. I think we we kind

706
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: of paint that picture, but it doesn't actually have to

707
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: be that.

708
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: That's beautiful. I really think motherhood is. I mean, even

709
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: in our culture it says that your relationship being a

710
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: mother is as close to a relationship as inhumanly possible

711
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: that you can get your relationship with God because it

712
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: is such a it's a relationship of service. And you know,

713
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: up in for us we say your relationship to God

714
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: is of service. And so when you have that child

715
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: that is completely under your at your surrender, everything you

716
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: do for it is what it receives or what the

717
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: child receives. It's like that is the closest relationship to

718
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: to serving the Divine that you get because you're in

719
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: constant mode of service as a mother. Oh yeah, yes,

720
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: what piece of advice have you been given over these

721
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: past years or even while you were going through a

722
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: safon in return that you feel has stayed with you,

723
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: like a piece of advice you would give to someone

724
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: else going through it.

725
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

726
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: I think for me as someone that was codependent, you know,

727
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: so codependent and I'll never forget when Lindsay started going

728
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: to therapy and Lindsay went first, like I said, and

729
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: when she came, she's like, I'm working with my feelings

730
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: of codependency and I'm working with this pattern of codependency.

731
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that.

732
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: Sucks for her, like as someone that's incredibly independent, like

733
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: that really sucks for her. I was like, interesting about

734
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: empathize literally literally, I was like, keep me posted, girl,

735
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, realizing my codependency was so deep I didn't

736
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: even see it and I couldn't even or standard or

737
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: zom so having coaches and therapists and mentors that just

738
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: simply ask you, but how do you feel? You know,

739
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: it can be you receive a text message from someone

740
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: and then you're sent, often to the story of they

741
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: don't care about me, or they they think this, or

742
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: they want me to you know. The stories just start

743
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: when we receive emails, text messages, things on the phone, conversations,

744
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: and it can just come back to like how do

745
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I feel? What do I want? How do I want

746
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: to show up? And I think there's the turning inward

747
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: to me and remembering that I'm a person, I am

748
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: a form, I am a being that deserves an opinion,

749
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: that deserves a perspective, that can be in the room

750
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: and in this conversation, which just huge for me. So

751
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: now with anything I always kind of turn in. I'm like,

752
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: how are you doing, how are you feeling? What do

753
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: you want? It's like bringing the I back in the

754
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: conversation has just been worlds helpful in my romantic relationships,

755
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: in my business, in my family relationships, and it just

756
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: helps me to be more centered and more myself so

757
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: I can be in true relationship with people out of

758
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: love instead of out of any codependent fears or patterns.

759
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: Shout out to our therapists who I feel like you

760
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: probably quote on the regular and can't actually say their

761
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: names because this one is also similar flavor. But my

762
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: therapist would ask me, is this really? Is this you know?

763
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: Is this your voice? Is this your desire? Is this

764
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: what you really want to do? And it's just a

765
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 4: great question we can ask ourselves because I'm someone who

766
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: can easily take on the desires of other people or

767
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: the dreams of other people that they have. For me,

768
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: I was living an expired dream for a long time.

769
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 4: I wanted to be an actress, which was my truth

770
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: from a very young age. But there came a point

771
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 4: where that dream was expired, and I was still like

772
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: pushing for it because everyone expected me to, and you know,

773
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 4: I had I remember having a conversation with my therapist

774
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: about this a few of them, and she was just like,

775
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: is this still your dream? You know, like who are

776
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: you doing this for? And it was just such a

777
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: powerful question that I still have to ask myself even

778
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: as a mom now, you know, just kind of checking

779
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 4: in as I navigate rearing a child. But it could

780
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: just bring you right back to your center, and I

781
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 4: think that's where when I make decisions, that's the best

782
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: place I can be. You know, it doesn't have to

783
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 4: be the right quote quote decision, it just has to

784
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 4: be from that center.

785
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: I love that the dream is expired, you know. I

786
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: feel like your conzy told go for your dreams, like

787
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: push for and of course you should. But I also

788
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: love that side of the coin where you can say, actually, yes,

789
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: that was my dream, but it doesn't need to be fulfilled.

790
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: And I'm actually okay with that. And I think it's

791
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: you know, seeing as expired rather than a failure is

792
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: a complete shifted narrative for your own mind and for

793
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: you to accept that it was, it's something you can accept,

794
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: not something that you have to see as something that

795
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: didn't work out. It wasn't failure. It's just not part

796
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: of me anymore. It was then, not.

797
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: Now, and we're constantly changing. So to like think that

798
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: we will have the same dream for our entire lives,

799
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's possible, but like to have that expectation

800
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: just feels a little unrealistic, so allowing it to change

801
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: and evolve, Like acting was once my dream, but look

802
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: at the skills and talents I have that I was

803
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: kind of pushing into that dream that I'm actually expressing

804
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 4: now on the podcast and will express in other ways

805
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: throughout my life.

806
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: So it's just so interesting to track.

807
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: I remember I was talking about this recently. I can't

808
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: remember where, but I had when I was really from

809
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: a really young age, or I would have dolls and

810
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: whenever I would draw myself, it would be with like

811
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: all these five kids, and it was like I was

812
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: always like pregnant. I was like a kid. I was

813
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: always pregnant in my picture, like and I'm twenty here,

814
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, And I was literally like I would say,

815
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: even when I was like ten, eleven, twelve, I would

816
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: always be visualizing myself having waves. I loved children, whether

817
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: I was working with children or playing with my little

818
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: little or cousin when I was ten, doing her hair,

819
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: whatever it was. And when I got to New York,

820
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: and obviously I was already married, and I was like, oh, yeah,

821
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: I want to be a young mum and I want

822
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: to like have kids really young, and I want like,

823
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: however many of them. And I realized I was like

824
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: carrying on this dream, but I wasn't ready for that dream,

825
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: Like I didn't. I thought that's what I wanted, and

826
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: so beautiful if it was what I wanted, But I

827
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: realized I wasn't ready for that dream, and so I

828
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: was like and then I remember thinking, oh my gosh,

829
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: am I like going against something that I should be

830
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: doing because it's been in my mind for so long.

831
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: And then when I got to like three years after that,

832
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, have I completely ruined

833
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: my dream? Like it's my dream ruined that I didn't

834
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: do this thing that I've been talking about or thinking

835
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: about since I was ten years old or probably even younger.

836
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: And then you realize that it's okay to grow and

837
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: your mind shift can change because you experience different things.

838
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: Your eyes open to so many different things. And it's

839
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: not to say I don't want to be a mother,

840
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: but it's saying that that dream wasn't for me at

841
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: the time, and had I push myself into it, maybe

842
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been ready for that. And so it's

843
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: so interesting because I think it's not expired, but it

844
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 2: just wasn't there. It wasn't for me at that point,

845
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: and the dream had to change a little bit.

846
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think now you know you can have

847
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: it all.

848
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: You can have that dream and you can have other dreams,

849
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: and you can allow things to unfold. And I think

850
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: in my life, my dreams were a little too small,

851
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: right I was. I'm from a small town in Ohio,

852
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: so not many people had big dreams where I grew up,

853
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: and so the dreams that I did have were pretty

854
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: like small, Like I think I wanted to be on

855
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: a local news anchor, which is totally fine, but I

856
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: just wanted to do something that I saw. Yes, And

857
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: for a lot of us, we're just kind of contextualizing

858
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: what dreams are possible based on who were around. So

859
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: when you kind of see in life, if you move

860
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: to Los ANGELESO you kind of see different opportunities and options.

861
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: You're expanded into the possibility an idea of different dreams.

862
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: That's so true, and.

863
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: So it's beautiful to allow ourselves to kind of have,

864
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, this expansion of ideas and possibilities with our dreams.

865
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: And I would say, now, I don't even know for

866
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: I have any dreams. Yeah, I'm just like God, whatever

867
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: you want for me, like, I just make it good.

868
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm not surprise me.

869
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: God make it good. It's true that that really resonated

870
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: with me because I started coming across all these My

871
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: mum worked all her life, so did my dad. But

872
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: I started seeing all these women who were like entrepreneurs,

873
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: not in their nine to five roles that I was

874
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: used to seeing and that I was in myself. And

875
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: I felt really content when I was doing it. But

876
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: then suddenly, once you see something, you can't unsee it,

877
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, I didn't even know this was possible,

878
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: or oh, yeah, maybe that's something I would like to explore.

879
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: And so once your eyes open or you see something

880
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: that's not part of your daily life or culture or

881
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: something that you were used to before, it does shift

882
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: and change you completely, or it opens you up to

883
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: different possibilities that you were ever thinking about because you've

884
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: never seen it.

885
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 3: In the Internet.

886
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: It's the best and worst place, you know, payful for it.

887
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: But on the Internet you can find the expanders. You

888
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: can find the ideas, the concepts, the people that show

889
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: you what's possible. I'm so grateful for all the women

890
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: in my life, all the women that were surrounded by

891
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: and the most powerful women that are just doing these crazy,

892
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: amazing things that we can be expanded by. But then

893
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: it's also being mindful of where we're following someone else's

894
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: blueprint and really allowing our own soul to lead the way.

895
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: So just kind of doing the dance of Okay, I'm

896
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: going to let this expand what's possible for me, but

897
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure to follow my own blueprint.

898
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: Throughout this journey. What have been some of the like

899
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: quieter signs for you that you were healing, Like, what

900
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: were the little things you were noticing in yourself that

901
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: indicates you, you know what, I'm in the right direction.

902
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: I think for me, I started to trust myself, you know,

903
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: just in those small moments and in those big moments, and.

904
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: No one would see that on the outside.

905
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: You know, it's not an obvious thing, but I just

906
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: allowed the like that inner voice to lead me a

907
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 4: little bit more rather than what I thought I should do.

908
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: And I really had to take inventory on the shoulds

909
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: that were running in my life in order to get

910
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 4: to that place that I really trusted myself. So just

911
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 4: to quickly break that down, a lot of us are

912
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: living a life where, you know, the subtext would be

913
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 4: I should be married by twenty seven, I should have

914
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 4: kids by thirty, I should buy a house, I should

915
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 4: be in that place at that time. And you know,

916
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 4: like we're saying, you know, life has bigger plans for us,

917
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 4: you know, and the timeline is not always the one

918
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: we imagine or other people imagine for us. So taking

919
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: inventory of those shoulds and understanding where they came from.

920
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: Are they from my parents? Are they from you know?

921
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 4: Did I hear it in school? Did I see everyone

922
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: around me do this thing? And then you know I

923
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 4: started to try on almost like the inverse of the should.

924
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: So if you know, my belief was that I was

925
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 4: getting I should be married by twenty seven, twenty eight

926
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: and have have my first kid by like twenty nine,

927
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: and you know, I I was thrust into seven years

928
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: of being single at like twenty six or so, twenty seven,

929
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 4: and in the depths of that, you know, when I

930
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: just felt like I was never going to find my person,

931
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 4: I just tried on this belief. You know, I trust

932
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 4: the timing of my life, and I know that understanding

933
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: and knowing myself more deeply is going to attract someone

934
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 4: who I will truly be in deep connection, in partnership with.

935
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 4: And just like trying that on for a day, you know,

936
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 4: walking around in my life truly believing that and seeing

937
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: how that felt, and eventually that became my belief and

938
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 4: it just it was great to strip it down, you

939
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: know and kind of come back to what I what

940
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 4: I actually actually believe. And from there I was able

941
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: to trust myself and the small decisions that I was making.

942
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: And then when I would you know, my husband came

943
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: into my life, my now husband, I trusted myself implicitly

944
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: to know that he was my person.

945
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: There was no doubt. I love this question. I want

946
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: to here yours so small signs of how I know

947
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm healing. I think something that I really work with

948
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: is something called internal family systems parts work.

949
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: Do you do that as well.

950
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: Now, Gabby came on the show and she walked me

951
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: through yeah a small like I guess, the small process

952
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: of it, and it was really incredible.

953
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: It's so powerful. It really was so in parts work.

954
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: It's basically we love, honor and accept all parts, all thoughts,

955
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: all feelings and beliefs. And I think before in life

956
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: I would shame myself and be mad at myself if

957
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think perfectly act perfectly, like I almost had

958
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: a censor in my own mind. And now I see

959
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: such progress when I can invite in all of the thoughts,

960
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: all of the beliefs, all of the parts of me,

961
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: even the ones that are tired, that are complaining, that

962
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: are sad, that are mean, that are bratty, Like I

963
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: just say yes to all aspects of me, and that

964
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: means I could go into a moment and you know,

965
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: I could have a judger part of me that's like

966
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: doing her thing, and I'm like, okay, I see you, girl,

967
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: Like I know that you feel uncomfortable, we're a little nervous,

968
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: we're trying to differentiate yourself, and I'll just kind of

969
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: invite in all of the things I used to hate

970
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: about myself. I'd be like, oh, I'm so judge, Magtile,

971
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm all these things. And now I'm like, oh, I

972
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: hear you, I see you, and I love you, and

973
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: you're a part of me. And the more I can

974
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: turn to myself and the parts of me and love them,

975
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: the more whole I am and the better I feel.

976
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: I love both of those so beautiful. What was what

977
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: would be mine? A big warning sign to myself, Actually

978
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: I'll go the opposite way, a sign I was gonna say,

979
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: a big warning sign that I'm not growing, but.

980
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna go the other way.

981
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: That I am is how much I criticize other people.

982
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: And also I never see you criticizing anybody.

983
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: So well, whether it's internally or externally. And then well,

984
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: but you know what, who doesn't who doesn't have those

985
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 2: moments where you're seeing them? And then also a big

986
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: one for me is when I feeling other people's joy

987
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: for them, Like that's a big one for me, Like

988
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: do I actually am I actually really happy for you?

989
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, that's amazing. And inside I'm

990
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: like wishing for their demise, not wishing for their demise,

991
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: but sometimes like it's hard to feel joy for other

992
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: people when you're not feeling good. And so I think

993
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: a big indication for me of when I'm genuinely like

994
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: doing better in myself or going through a period where

995
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: my practices are on point and I'm doing the work

996
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: and I'm recognizing what's happening is the initial reaction when

997
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: someone has something good in their life and how am

998
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: I feeling? And then when I notice that, I'm like, oh,

999
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 2: thank god, I was actually happy, or sometimes I'm like,

1000
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, why did I feel like that about them?

1001
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: It's actually not about them, YEA, Like what was it about? Well, Okay,

1002
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: they got an award for something. Let's just say. I'm like,

1003
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: but is it the award or is it like, am

1004
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: I not feeling worthy?

1005
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: Like?

1006
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: It really helps you to break down what you need

1007
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: to work on as soon as you realize your reaction

1008
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: to someone's joy has brought you not joy, like anything

1009
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: but joy.

1010
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 3: I think that's gross.

1011
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, because you're looking at the

1012
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: thing and you're seeing what it means about you and

1013
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: what's coming up for you. I had this thought the

1014
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: other day around people in the spirituality space, like being frauds.

1015
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and then I was like, Okay,

1016
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: well if that's my thought, then where am I a fraud?

1017
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1018
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: You always have to turn it around because like, what

1019
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: are you looking for in people? And that can and

1020
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: I think what people can be that can be scary

1021
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: for people to look at themselves. My hope is that

1022
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: people just create a soft internal landscape for themselves to

1023
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: explore the thoughts, explore the ideas, like to be like, Okay,

1024
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: maybe I am a fraud, maybe I'm not a fraud.

1025
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 3: Like it's safe in here.

1026
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: It's safe in my mind to have this exploration in

1027
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: this conversation. Because if we're not safe within ourselves to

1028
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: be messy, to be judgmental, to be catty, to not

1029
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: be happy for people, we're not safe anywhere. And so

1030
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: saying yes to all of the sticky thoughts and feelings,

1031
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: I think is such a beautiful practice and really is

1032
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: what helps us grow.

1033
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: I think about that even with online comments. It's like

1034
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: whenever there are somebody that will be said and I'm

1035
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: like whatever, whatever, and then there'll be one I'm like, yeah,

1036
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: when you get triggered, and then and then I have

1037
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: to think, why did that trigger me? And why am

1038
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: I sending them a voice back.

1039
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: Why did I send them a picture of this?

1040
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: Why did I send them an explanation? What am I

1041
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: trying to for all.

1042
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: That are like we love you, Roddy, we love you,

1043
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: and this person's like you suck and you're like, hey,

1044
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: let me talk to.

1045
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 3: You about that. Let's have a conversation about what you

1046
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: don't like about me?

1047
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: And it really is a mirror, isn't it?

1048
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Like a I have a hot take that I think

1049
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: social media and the internet can be such a powerful

1050
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: mirror for us of that we need to grow. Where

1051
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: are you outsourcing your intuition and your power? What are

1052
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: the things that come up? Because I will notice that

1053
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: too when I have certain comments where I'm like, ooh,

1054
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: that one was for me to see to grow and

1055
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: integrate and like let go of because yeah I can.

1056
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite thing.

1057
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens.

1058
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: For people who struggle. You said with the purpose, do

1059
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: you have like a framework of things that people can

1060
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: go through in their mind or writing down? For Okay,

1061
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: I actually don't know what I'm supposed to do here.

1062
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: What are the first like three steps I can take? Yeah?

1063
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: I think the first thing for purpose and just to

1064
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: frame it, I was someone that wanted so desperately in

1065
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: my life to find purpose. I was so anxious and

1066
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: so depressed because I wanted to find my purpose and

1067
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: it was so hard for me, you know, in my mind,

1068
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: because I felt like I had to be doing something

1069
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: that was on purpose.

1070
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 3: I think the first thing is really thinking about what.

1071
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: You're naturally good at and if you need support in

1072
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: that and understanding what you're naturally good at. I love

1073
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: the practice of asking people that you love, your friends,

1074
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: your family to reflect back to you what you're naturally

1075
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: good at. So this can be like, hey, mom, where

1076
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: do you see me shining or thriving? Like where do

1077
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: you think I'm naturally good at things? This can be

1078
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: asking friends or family. I suggest asking the people that

1079
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: are the best speakers, communicators. You know, maybe not the

1080
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: friend that you kind of have an off feeling about,

1081
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: Like ask the people that you know are going to

1082
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: give you the right answer. They can help mirror back

1083
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: to you where you could use these natural skills, gifts,

1084
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: and abilities. I think as a second place, see where

1085
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: you feel and flow. So for me, as a podcast

1086
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: host and you know someone that teaches and speaks, I

1087
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: am most in flow when i'm teaching, I'm most in

1088
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: flow when I'm podcasting, and I didn't really know that

1089
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: until we got into it. But now I can see

1090
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: back in life that when I'm in conversation with people

1091
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: that feels deep, that's where.

1092
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: I'm in flow.

1093
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 1: And so notice where you're in flow, which is really

1094
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: really helpful. And then I think third, redefining purpose. I

1095
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: think people feel like their purpose is thing external, their

1096
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: purpose is something that makes the money, and their purpose

1097
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: is their job. If your purpose here as a soul

1098
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: was to experience and experiment in life, what would you

1099
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: do what with the joy that you would follow? What

1100
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: was the thing that you really just feel lit up

1101
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: by and excited by?

1102
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: And I think when we can kind of let.

1103
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: Go of the idea that purpose is this really big

1104
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: thing outside of us that means we have to be

1105
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: on stage in Madison Square Garden and do all these

1106
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: crazy things, it can get so much easier to remember that, like,

1107
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: our soul is here for purpose, the purpose of our

1108
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: existence is to be here now, and really just seeing

1109
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: that as less pressure.

1110
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 3: I was going to say that bird's eye view is

1111
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: just so helpful.

1112
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: I think purpose holds so much charge these days people

1113
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: feel like, well, if I am not on purpose, then

1114
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: you know, I must be off my path, you know.

1115
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 4: And I think we are the purpose, you know, and

1116
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: we are always on our path.

1117
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1118
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: I think I got tripped up so much because I

1119
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: thought I wasn't on my path. But you know, whether

1120
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: it feels like a zig or zag, it's always the

1121
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 4: same path and providing lessons and support and guidance for

1122
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 4: more of becoming who you really are.

1123
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: You know.

1124
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 3: How do you see purpose?

1125
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: How do I see purpose?

1126
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: You know?

1127
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: I've watched so many people who I feel have lived

1128
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: their purpose. One of them is my spiritual teacher that's

1129
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: staying with me right now, has had been a month

1130
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: for fifty years, and his sole purpose has been to

1131
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: share God and goodness with the world. Like that you

1132
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: can really believe that goodness exists in the world, and

1133
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: not through speaking but through acting, not through like saying

1134
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: you should do something, but through literally being that person

1135
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: and allowing people to see it and want what you've got.

1136
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: Like whatever you're doing, I want to do. It is

1137
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: how I feel when I'm around him. I see purposes

1138
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: constantly being lost and found. That's been my experience of it.

1139
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 2: I was actually going to call this podcast lost and Found,

1140
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: because I really felt like feel like you expect once

1141
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: you're found, you're found, and once you've got it, you've

1142
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: got it. And this, as soon as I've grabbed it,

1143
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: this is it. It's gonna be like this, and I'm

1144
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: gonna be holding it with like a torch above me

1145
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: all the time. And actually it's similar to what you

1146
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: were saying about Sassin return. I actually think the point

1147
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: of life is the lost in the found is just

1148
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: as much there as the lost, and both go together,

1149
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 2: and you will know what found is without being lost.

1150
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: And I don't think you have to see the loss

1151
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: as being a negative thing, because without without exploring different paths,

1152
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: which is what usually do when you're lost, without trying

1153
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: to look in the places which you wouldn't normally when

1154
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: you've lost something, you wouldn't actually be able to explore

1155
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 2: to figure out what found means. And so I struggle

1156
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: with this question because I feel like my purpose has

1157
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: changed through time, and I do think there's been periods

1158
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: of my life where my purpose has been to serve

1159
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: my family, and that has been so when I felt

1160
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: at home, and then there's been times when my grandma

1161
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: was in hospital like two years ago. I stayed with

1162
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 2: her and my purpose was solely to look after her

1163
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: and serve her, and that was like everything I wanted.

1164
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: Nothing else mattered in that moment. And then there's been

1165
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: times where I felt like, when I moved to New York,

1166
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: my purpose was to support Jay and support him through

1167
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: what he was going through and what I wanted at

1168
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: the time. Honestly, I didn't want it to matter, and

1169
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: it didn't because he wasn't expecting it. But I felt like,

1170
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: as a person, that's where I wanted to be. And

1171
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: now I feel like my purpose has been like, oh okay,

1172
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: I now feel I've learned so much along the way.

1173
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: Serving others has become that purpose, and I notice that

1174
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: it is what I'm supposed to be doing, because when

1175
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: i start doing things for another motive, or I'm doing

1176
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: partnerships that don't feel right, or I'm making money in

1177
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: ways that I actually feel a bit, I don't want

1178
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: to be sharing that with people. I know it's because

1179
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: the ultimate purpose for me is if I'm not serving

1180
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: them in the right way, it feels wrong. And that

1181
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: might change as time goes on, But yeah, I think

1182
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: I see purpose is something that for me changes. It

1183
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: may be the same for someone for the whole life.

1184
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: But that was stunning. Yeah, I loved Almah revd Up.

1185
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: But you know, and you were like following the call

1186
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: of your soul in each of these moments. You're like

1187
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: serving the moment. You're serving what your values, you're serving,

1188
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: what is meaningful and matters to you. And what you

1189
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: even said at the beginning about your teacher, like he

1190
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: serves God and goodness. Yeah, sounds like a great purpose

1191
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: to me. And it sounds like something too that anyone

1192
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: can do, you know. I like when people can kind

1193
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: of and even for myself, this is medicine. Like what

1194
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: could the purpose be that I could do every day?

1195
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: I can serve goodness in God, just like you said exactly.

1196
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: I can do this right now in this moment. I

1197
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: can do this with the barista. I can do this

1198
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: with the uber driver. I can do this with my family.

1199
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: You know, Like, what is the thing that you could

1200
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: truly do every day that's going to make your life

1201
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: better and make the world better. And it doesn't need

1202
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: to be big, it doesn't need to be grand. It

1203
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: can be simple and.

1204
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: It can look different every day, Like the way you

1205
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: do the way you live your purpose won't look the

1206
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: same every day externally or internally. And I think that

1207
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 2: that's really important too, because sometimes you think, okay, that

1208
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: means I, like me living in my purpose means I

1209
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: have to put out a video every single day or

1210
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm not so.

1211
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 4: Otherwise when people get confused, like me, livery purpose seven

1212
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 4: tiktoxic day And there's.

1213
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: No shade to that because no, if that's in flow,

1214
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: if that feels aligned, if that's your values, it's all good.

1215
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's like, where does it come from?

1216
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: This thing that feels good and beautiful? And just like

1217
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: on that soul level to like the mind and the

1218
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: human that keeps us trapped and small.

1219
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: That was really lovely in the conversation, I was wondering

1220
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: whether there's a quote or any kind of message that

1221
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: has been in your heart or mind in the last

1222
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: couple of months or for your life that keeps coming back.

1223
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: I guess I like saying a mantra, but you know,

1224
00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: it can be anything.

1225
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: In the book, we say you're not behind, You're becoming,

1226
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: And I just love that sentiment and that phrase because

1227
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: for so long I felt like I was behind. I

1228
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: wasn't married at the right time. I wasn't with kids

1229
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: at the right time, I wasn't making this amount of money,

1230
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: and I just had to go through everything I went

1231
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: through to become the woman I am today, which is

1232
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: a woman that I love and then I'm so proud

1233
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: to be And so for anyone listening, just remembering that

1234
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: that like every day you're becoming and it's the best

1235
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: part of the process.

1236
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

1237
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: This one Chris has said many many times over the years,

1238
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 4: and it's just a constant reminder for me and really

1239
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: anyone moving through change. Knowing that you can take responsibility

1240
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 4: for everything you're bringing to a moment, and that is

1241
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: everywhere you go, there you are, which I know is

1242
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 4: not your.

1243
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 3: Quote, but you say it a lot.

1244
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 4: It's like it's a hard truth, but it's actually like

1245
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 4: a reassuring, liberating truth too, you know, to know that I,

1246
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 4: in every moment can take responsibility for what I'm bringing

1247
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 4: to this experience, whether.

1248
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 3: Good or not good.

1249
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: And you know, when I realized that through a lot

1250
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 4: of therapy, I was like, wow, girl, Okay, you know

1251
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 4: now you are in control quote quote quote control of

1252
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: your life in that way, you know, life is no

1253
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: longer happening to me. I can really see how it's

1254
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 4: happening for me and what I'm bringing to it as well.

1255
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: Everywhere you go there you will.

1256
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: I don't know who the original person is.

1257
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: I got to look that up.

1258
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 1: And when you said you're like, Chris did this quote,

1259
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, what I know?

1260
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: I was so scared.

1261
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, WHOA, I said, everything is. Yeah, honestly, thank

1262
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: you honey so much. Thank you for lost and found.

1263
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 4: Like I'm going to quote I think we should quote

1264
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 4: her as we talk about purpose on this journey because no,

1265
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: it's really.

1266
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: Now you're in You're in our book. In the Purpose

1267
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: chapter you talk about your journey.

1268
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 3: See that fall, I will show you. I can read it. Yes,

1269
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: can we read it?

1270
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: I love that? Wait, I really just like get through

1271
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: a lot of the book. I didn't see that.

1272
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: No, it's really far and it's like it's on the

1273
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: purpose part.

1274
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm glad to go like the physical copy now, No,

1275
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: I know.

1276
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: Same, it's the wrong cover, but you know it'll it'll

1277
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: it'll do. So I'll hear it is.

1278
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: I'm so honest.

1279
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so god, Okay.

1280
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 4: In the book, we have passed the mics, which are

1281
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: just excerpts of wisdom from our podcast guests, and you

1282
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 4: were talking about purpose and just how you've explored it.

1283
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 3: So this is literally an excerpt from the conversation.

1284
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 4: Everything I've ended up doing has been a beautiful, magical,

1285
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: random interaction with someone that sparked something in me. I

1286
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 4: met an Ira, beta practitioner and chef, and was obsessed

1287
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 4: with this human. I was like, I need to study

1288
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 4: her and be around her. I became her assistant in

1289
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 4: cooking classes. I was just like, I just want to

1290
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 4: learn from you and absorb you in any way possible,

1291
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 4: So let me follow you around and shadow you. Helped

1292
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 4: her in her cooking classes, and then I went on

1293
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 4: to do a yoga teacher training, which had to do

1294
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: with me seeing that spark of joy and happiness and

1295
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 4: purpose and what they were doing. It's not that I

1296
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 4: want to be them, It's not that I want to

1297
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 4: have what they have. It's that I want to have

1298
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: that joy in myself, that contentment in what I have

1299
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: to be able to give to other people.

1300
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 3: It's such a beautiful.

1301
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 4: Feeling to know that for me, jealousy or dissatisfaction come

1302
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 4: when I don't understand who I am and I don't

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01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 4: understand what I have to give to other people. Actually,

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01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 4: we all just want to give to other people, and

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Speaker 4: the problem is that when we don't know what we

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Speaker 4: have to give, that's where the frustration came for me.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's probably for many people.

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Speaker 3: Makes me want to cry. Oh, I go to make

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Speaker 3: you want to cry thinking about.

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Speaker 1: Little you just you know, shadowing the chef doing yoga

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Speaker 1: teacher training.

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Speaker 2: It was in New York, and it was amazing, what

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Speaker 2: a momentous time it was for me, Like that was

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Speaker 2: thank you for reading that. I actually forgot that we

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Speaker 2: even had that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Really really powerful, Like I just love that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, honey, this is so sweet. You're the best.

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Speaker 2: I like wish you all the best with everything that

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Speaker 2: you're doing. You guys have always been such a light

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Speaker 2: on my Instagram feed every time I see you both,

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Speaker 2: and I really feel like you're special in the sense

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Speaker 2: that you really walk and you feel everything that you share.

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Speaker 2: So thank you.

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Speaker 3: That means so much. We love you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's such an honor and to connect with your community

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Speaker 1: and just in any way feels so good. And when

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Speaker 1: we got this, we were like, yeah, you give you their girl.

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Speaker 1: We're excited for them to get the book Almost Thirty,

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Speaker 1: which is out. It's a definitive guide to a life

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Speaker 1: you love for this next decade and beyond. So anything

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Speaker 1: that we talked about today we have in the book,

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Speaker 1: which you know, your amazing husband did a little blurb for.

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Speaker 2: Please go out and get the book, like it's going

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01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: to be not just for your almost thirties, but it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a life guide for you also.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys, Thank you guys. The best. Bye,