WEBVTT - Ep. 87: Grande Cheese Curd Nymphs 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.600 So you've never eaten enough cheese kurds, where like you 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.600 can't have a bow movement for days, just like days 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.320 on end they say you need all sorts of vice 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.560 for bass. But I could give a ratsass about what 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.080 people say. This is not the right use of ironically. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.800 It's coincidental. There would be ironic if it were found 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:30.080 at a school for the visually gifted. I don't even 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.720 really know how to start this. Um, I'm a little sad. 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:40.680 Good morning, degenerate anglers, and welcome to Bent the Fishing Podcast. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.520 It's about to tell you something you're not gonna love. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:52.600 I'm Joe SURMELI where's my co host Samack? And I 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.680 mean in samac and uh yeah, man, just get it 0:00:55.760 --> 0:01:00.200 over with. Yeah, so value degenerates. This is going to 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:05.440 be the second too last Bent episode. Hate to have 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.840 to deliver that news, but that's what's up. Tell everybody, 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:17.160 why Joe, Because I am moving to New Zealand to 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.280 frolic in the Emerald Hills with Mr Miles Nolte. No, 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.120 I'm just kidding, I am. However, do you know I 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.039 have him saved in my phone like that? Yeah? You should? 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.120 I call him that all the time. I'm just kidding 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.840 about a New Zealand no thanks to that. But I am, however, 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.280 leaving meat Eater made that call. And it has been 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.760 an incredible two years here working with some really amazing people. 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.120 And while it's bent truthfully that I will miss the most, 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.080 I just I cannot take it with me as I 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.040 fire up the sputtering two Stroke and shove off for 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.360 the next adventure. So here we are. Well, you know, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.880 here's to hoping that two Stroke turns over on its 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:03.360 first trial. Won't will here will the metaphorical two stroke will? 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.160 All good things must come to an end, man? Yeah? Yeah, 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.200 But listen, I wanted to. I wanted to give you guys, 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.440 you listeners out there heads up today UM, so that 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.880 you can you can savor this episode and our next 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.560 episode on April fifteenth, which will be our official last. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.280 But I didn't. I didn't want this to be abrupt. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.440 I wanted to kind of ease into it, um. And 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.680 we've got something cooked up for our final show next 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.200 week that should be a really fun time. And look, truthfully, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.000 I'm treating this like a New Orleans funeral. Okay, it's 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:34.079 a celebration of life, not death, you know, even though 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.080 listeners Joe has officially killed my career as a podcast host. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.480 Joe giveth Joe take it away. I'm not don't. Let's listen. 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.480 All things are possible. You never know, man, you're gonna 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.760 be You're gonna be fine. And I also, look, I 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.760 want to give I do have to give a massive 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.320 shout out to the crew at thirteen Fishing for their 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.240 support of of Bent, Like we could not have made 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.160 this show without them. And I was truly honored to 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.080 work with a company that that genuinely makes good gear 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.520 that I was psyched to use. Um, those guys are great. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.240 They have been great, and uh, I know you're joking around, 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.120 but I also did I have to thank you right. Look, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.279 you you stepped in and stepped up as my formidable 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.080 Bent co host after Miles left, and and this has 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.200 been a blast, It truly has. You've had an entirely 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.360 new flavored event. You've brought creativity and some great segments 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.720 and uh, I from the bottom of my heart, man, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:31.000 I'm going to miss this. There's there's absolutely no doubt 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.440 about that. Yeah, yeah, me too. Well, thanks man, you know, 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.200 it was really fun and I'm proud of the work 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:41.040 that we do. You know, thank you for thank you 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:42.680 for kind of taking a shot in the dark and 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.680 having me on the show. It was truthfully like one 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:49.600 of my favorite things. And um, I am going to 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:54.480 uh I'm gonna miss it, and thank you Joe. Yeah, man, man, 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.560 for sure, I wouldn't I wouldn't have changed anything, nothing. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:05.120 And also yeah, thirteen Fishing, you know, thank you so much. Uh, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.320 we really couldn't have done this without you. And you 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.640 know when I came on as like you know, the 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:15.600 the co host. Um, you know, one thing drove throughout 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.680 the entirety of my tenure is the co host event. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.039 I never felt like a replacement man, whether that was 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.960 from like you, whether that was from meat Eater, whether 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.560 that was from our sponsors. Um. So you know, to 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.000 that end, you know, I've already thanked you, have thanked 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.240 meat Eater, But thank you thirteen for like you know, 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.520 also just immediately being like down with me from day one. Man. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.080 And I said I said this before, I will say 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.479 it again. UM. I mean you shined in the role 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.839 as as taking over news um after Miles left and 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.839 developed into this you know, I mean, you have the 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.080 listeners to thank for you being here. As much as me, 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.080 because I heard nothing but positive things and saying, hey, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:59.240 that's your guy. Um, you know and and uh, I 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.080 think I think think we're gonna hear you somewhere again 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.440 at some point, you know what I mean, Like you've 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.159 done a great job at this but right, tired of 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.560 the sadness for a second. You are still coming out 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.640 here this spring, and I we have we have plans 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.599 to fish together. I mean, you can't get COVID a 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:23.000 second time, right, so I'm assuming this time apparently you can. 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.560 Just for the record, I'm assuming this time the plan 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.400 will hold um and we'll do a little striper smally, 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.920 Shaddon cats combo um, one of those. I'm I'm sure 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.560 one of those fish will become your new favorite. I mean, 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:41.560 catfish were my favorite. I've caught some stripers, I've caught 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.680 some smally, but you have to catch a shot. So 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.960 perhaps there you go, and if it works out how 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.599 I'm planning, you'll be able to feed yourself for a 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.920 month on the hall. Maybe I'll even give your broken 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.279 some new gear while you're out here, right, I will 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.480 cast some things you're driving so you could fill up 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.200 the shagging wagon. You know what, I mean, that's that's true. 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.240 I'm very much looking forward to it. Listeners won't believe this, man, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:07.160 I mean, but but Joe and I have never actually 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.320 met in person. Yeah, I can't actually swear he's a 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:14.760 real human like I don't really Joe is just the 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.360 friendly but kind of grumpy man that lives in my computer. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.279 that that is true. Um. Anyway, look, the important thing 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.960 right now is that Bent is not done yet. Damn it. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.880 This is not our last show. So with that in mind, 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.240 let's let's get back down to what we do best. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.280 Because um, let's just say next week's closer is gonna 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.760 be laid out a little different than normal, right, So 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.560 we're gonna cut into our covering water segment here, which 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.360 we have not done in a while, and that's our 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:41.479 rapid fire Q and A segment. And this is a 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.560 fitting one because part of the reason that I wanted 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.000 you on the show is because we have so much 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.000 background in common. Like we both have musical backgrounds, were 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.640 both from the East. Uh, different tastes in music perhaps, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:57.680 but similar backgrounds. Nonetheless, you know, yes, we've we've actually 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.520 got one of the fellas from bon Ivor or bone 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:07.440 Verre oncovering Water today and uh, it's our it's our buddy. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.600 He goes by s Carry that's name of his solo project. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.320 About that you talked about his new album, and uh 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:19.280 and we got like this email that you know, having 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.440 had a music career, I immediately recognized as a publicist email, 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:28.320 but like all good publicist emails, it was attention grabbing. Uh, 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.880 straight from the jump. I read it and I was like, 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.160 you know what, Joe, we ought to have this dude 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:39.520 on and a little bit of a little bit of convincing. Yeah, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.520 partially it was like, dude, like, I'm out of here anyway, 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.480 just get whoever you want. Okay, we'll take I'm just kidding. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.000 I'm just kidding, but I I will say this by now. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.280 You guys know, I hope that I'm like the punk metal, 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.880 hardcore guy, like that's my deal, That's that's just my jam. 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.280 But my wife, who does not like punk metal and 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.120 hardcore music, was very impressed. And we have extremely different 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.120 tastes in music. So while I was curious to talk 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.680 to Sean, her excitement told me that this this may 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.560 not be my new head bang Onto the Way to 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:12.040 the River band. I'm going in I can hold it. No, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:24.120 I'm all right. So joining us for covering water today 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.680 is Sean Kerry, whom you may be familiar with through 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:32.120 his work for a little act called Bony There. Sean, 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.920 thanks for joining us, man, no problem, Thanks so much 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.040 for having me, Sean. Can I can? I ask? Because 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.800 I'm certainly aware of the band, although I'm a little 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.600 bit more of like a chug a chug a misfits 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.360 kind of every time I think, what what does that 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.120 name mean? Can you translate that for the listeners? Is 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.760 there something behind that? It means good winter? Um? When 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:56.280 justin the main dude came up with the name, he 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.920 just didn't know that winter was spelled with an H 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:04.840 in French. Got it? So he yeah, he signed a 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:09.080 letter to his friend, um, good winter and just it 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.480 looks looks like bon effort, but it's actually BONI I 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.440 was gonna say, does it get obnoxious with people? Just 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.559 like saying bon Iver? Like? Is I like, I imagine 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.160 you get that? No, I'm him into all the pronunciations. Well, dude, 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.120 I was joking with somebody today. I was like, you 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.320 know what, I've been screwing that name up for like 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.360 ten years and this is like the first time that 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.640 it's actually mattered at all. Um. But moving off, how 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.400 how did you get how how do you end up 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.920 get involved in that project? Oh? Man? I UM. I 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:42.040 actually approached Justin at his first gig as Boni be 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.400 um and we sort of knew each other, um from 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.319 the music scene, but I was a little bit younger, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.480 and I just I learned like all of his songs 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.360 um when they were posted on my Space. If you 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:59.000 can remember that, Wow, I remember my song very well. Yeah, 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.400 um and yeah, I just like I was in music 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.959 school at the time, so I just took like a 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.280 studious approach to learning all of his tunes and he 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.240 was kind of blown away by that. And we've been 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:13.559 playing ever since. Very cool, very cool. So you also, um, 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.160 you you have a solo project in the words right 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.640 as carry tell us a little bit about that. Yeah, 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:23.559 as Carrie started um kind of after the first bony 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.000 Very tour. I was so inspired to do my own 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.839 thing and um, write my own songs and just kind 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.120 of riding that wave. And so I started that project 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:37.200 project and I've been done four full length records, the 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:42.920 fourth ones coming out next month. Awesome, awesome, So okay, listeners. 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.000 You you probably know his music on in in one 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.760 capacity or another. And while I'd like to sit here 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.480 and talk music all day long, what you might not 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:55.320 know is that Sean is also a very dedicated angler 0:10:55.320 --> 0:11:01.440 based no Claire, Wisconsin man like outdoorsman musician crossover is 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.080 something I relate to, and it's pretty unique and more 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.280 common than a lot of folks might think. Right off 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.240 the top of my head, I think of our pal, uh, 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.920 Dave Ceminett from Trampled by Turtles. Musicians seemed to be 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.560 drawn to fly fishing for whatever reason, Like it's a 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.200 it's a it's a thing. How do you end up 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.600 getting into fly fishing and what draws you to it? 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.840 I think a Ted Nugent, by the way, I think 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.240 Ted Nugent's a fly fish man. I think Uncle Ted's 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.880 pretty much just running and gunning out in Texas. I'm 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.920 just saying, how are you gonna talk about musician? How 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:35.840 door has been crossovers without talking about tedw a lot 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:41.840 of musical similarities to Yeah, um, yeah, I mean I 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.840 grew up fishing, uh, And then when I moved to 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:49.360 Claire for college, I met this guy named Ben Lester 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:53.360 and we were both percussionists, and he was an avid 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.840 fly angler, so we started fishing together and you know, 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.760 by the end of that first summer fishing with him, 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:04.560 I completely switched over to uh to fly and it's yeah, 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.280 I haven't looked back since. So one thing I'm always 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.400 curious about Sean, like when whenever I get to talk 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:13.320 to a touring musician in particular, is your schedule just 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.880 too busy to to squeeze any of that in on 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.679 the road, Because I always wonder, like you travel in 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.000 the country, you have to end up in some places 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.160 they would have some pretty damn good fishing, Like is 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.000 there is there a sixth weight like stashed on the 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.600 tour bus kind of deal. You know, I have fished 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.960 on tour before and I need to like make it 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.720 more of a priority. But uh, yeah, we're we're talking 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.880 about um because there's now there's a few of us 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.840 in the crew that that do it. So we're yeah, 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.520 we're definitely gonna have a little a little road case 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.720 that just goes with us. But yeah, I've been able 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.480 to Um, we did we did a house show tour 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.400 with s carry. Um. We did three of them. Actually 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.800 this was a few back, but we kind of like 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.840 planned them around um fishing destinations or you know, we 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.600 took like three days off between UM SOLTI in Denver 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.040 and just fished our way. Um. Oh, that's a good 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.000 strip if you're gonna yeah, if you have right there. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.560 So we did that in a couple of places, and 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.320 you know, brought out all our camping and cooking gear 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.000 and it didn't feel like tour. It felt like a 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.840 fishing trip where we had to play shows at night. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.920 So well, that's a pretty damn good fishing trip, man, 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.240 because like all there is normally to do at night 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:28.000 is like drink beer and eat mountain house anyhow, So, Sean, 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.480 in this segment, we like to kind of get into 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.679 the minds of our guests via some rapid fire Q 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.680 and A yeah, it's it's uh. We always like to 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.560 say it's like a it's sort of an interview, except 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.720 you don't really have any time to think about your 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.760 answers to our questions. We're just gonna what we do 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.160 is we're just gonna throw two minutes on the clock 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.240 and we're just gonna rapid fire some questions at you 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.440 and then what we'll do though at the end, we 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:55.160 promise is give you one minute to elaborate on any 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:56.760 of your answers. So the idea is you just just 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.680 kind of spit them out and then you can elaborate 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.480 on not anyone that as we always say, like whatever 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:04.920 the career ender was, whatever was like ship, I shouldn't 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.080 have said that, that's the one you can elaborate on. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.200 I love it sounds like a good deal. Yeah, let's 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.960 do it all right. Uh, two minutes on the clock 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:23.800 and begin PR Smallmouth or PR Trout Trout, Gibson flying 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:30.800 v or B C Rich Warlock, flying Dych Brown on 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.120 a streamer or an eighteen inch Brookie on a dry 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:37.400 fly Brown on the streamer. Okay, because you're from Wisconsin. 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.720 White cheese cards or orange cheese cards. I don't like them. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:48.880 A career ender, Uh Okay. Money is not a factor 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.400 without being able to resell it. Would you rather have 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.320 any vintage synth like a Jupiter eight or some ship 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.520 or a vintage acoustic guitar maybe like a like a 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.920 sixty who gives some dove or something like that. M Okay, 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.280 so I know you're a fly guy, but still testing 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:07.960 the limits of that. Would you rather catch a thirty 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.480 musk on a fly or a fifty or on a 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:15.560 live sucker on the sticking the fly man, alright, can't 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.120 live without it? Fishing accessory? Like what is your like 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.880 not not not your rod and your real but like 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.520 what is the can't live without it fishing accessory? Sunglasses? 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.160 Good one? Okay, alright, first fly rod you ever owned 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:37.440 it was a Reddington three forks. Oh yeah, okay, that's 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.480 a good one. Man. Alright, Skinny Love or Enter Sandman, 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:51.320 Skinny bon Jovi or Bond Scott. I don't know who 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:59.200 Bond Scott. Okay, alright, alright, favorite DC right, yes, sir, 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.440 all right? Uh, favorite part of everybody likes a CDC 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:08.200 on some level, apparently not that much. Favorite part of tour, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:14.880 Oh the shows. Okay, that's a good part. Okay. One 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.400 place at other part. One place you've always wanted to 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:23.400 fly fish but haven't gotten there yet, Patagonia. Ah, that's 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:27.600 a good one, me too. Least favorite part of tour's 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:31.960 sort of travel. Okay, last one again, because you're from Wisconsin, 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:36.880 Charlie Barons fan or no, yeah, all right, we go 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:41.880 that's it. That is man, So we promised you one 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.480 minute to sort of dive a little deeper into any 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.640 one of those answers, Sean which an anyone jump out 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:48.760 at you? Do you want to tell us a little 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:54.520 bit more about I mean, the cheese is gonna no no, no, 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.800 no no. But I'm not gonna tell you which one 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.080 to pick. You can pick anyone you want. Um, you know, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:00.960 I'd like to hear more about the cheese curds, but 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.639 it's it's your time on the floor. Man. I like, 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.359 I grew up not liking cheese, but I've I've grown 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.280 more more to like it. But um, whatever, I like 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.080 them fried, I like whatever cheese curd is. Friend, I 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:20.399 just I don't like them. So you've never never eaten 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.960 enough cheese curds, where like you can't have a bow 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:27.359 movement for days, just like days on end, I haven't 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:33.520 had that luxury, and it is a luxury. Okay, alright, alright, alright, man, 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.879 thank you so much for for coming on with us. 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.720 That was a fun one. Um, so real quick, you're 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.840 you're you're coming out with your latest soul album. I 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.080 believe it's your fourth, titled break Me Open on jag 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.479 Jaguar Uh that will be available April. Tell us a 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.679 little bit about it. Where folks will be able to 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.320 listen and where they can find you on tour and 0:17:54.480 --> 0:18:00.000 on social Yeah. I'm so excited about this record. UM. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.720 It's been years in making and UM we are doing 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.080 two tours in the US and at the end of 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.440 April we're doing the East Coast and then UM in 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.520 July and we head out west. UM hoping to bring 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.879 the fly rod for sure. Are you are you? Are 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.880 you hitting any days? Hey? Don't I gonna say, don't 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.080 exclude it in the East Man. If you need some locations, 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.040 you let me know. I'm a I'm a Jersey Philly 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:27.400 gu Yeah. I fished um um in New York and 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:32.200 Jersey and Vermont. I think on the right arm. Are 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:36.639 you are you? Are you making any stops in Philly? Yep? 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:43.800 Where where are you playing? Um? It's full ship, It's 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.720 it's I don't remember. Do you remember what the room 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.640 cap is? I might. It's likely a bigger venue than 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.000 you and I ever played in Philly. Hayden. I think 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.760 we can kind of leave it out. No, we know 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.400 for scary we played pretty small room. I think it's 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.520 part of the World Cafe. Okay and Joe I have 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:10.160 played there multiple times. So all right, So, and where 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.320 can folks find you on social man? Um, I'm a 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:19.119 scary picks um on Instagram and uh I'm on Twitter 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.600 a little bit, um. But yeah, and then music will 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.680 be on all the streaming platforms and yeah, buy a 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:30.879 record if you like that too. Yeah yeah alright man. Well, hey, 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.200 thank you so much for coming on. I'm really looking 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.359 forward to the album. I wish you all the best 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.720 on your tour and uh, all all the fishing excursions 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.240 bound to be thrown in there. Um yeah, man, thanks again, 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.600 thank you guys, fan of what you do in the 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:52.200 mediator community in general, so thank you. Thanks man. So, yeah, degenerates, 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:57.880 check that out. I think you should check that out. Um. 0:19:57.920 --> 0:19:59.959 But like, how are you gonna not know Bond Scott 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.840 Like that was a slate, that was a slight red flag. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:05.520 Look look see man, this is where I disagree with you. 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.840 Like you have factions of you know, when we're talking 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.119 about classic rocky of like factions, and I sort of 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.560 put a C d C in with like Alice Cooper Kiss, 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.800 you know, acts like that. I would never consider them 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.119 in the same arena as like Cream or Hendrix or 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.840 The Doors. Um, and I don't like a C d 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:26.800 C very much, completely honest. You know, I don't care 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.800 you don't like Leonard Skinner. I don't like Leonard SKINNERD haven't. 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:31.600 Oh yeah I would. I would put like a CDC 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.480 almost in with anyway. Um then again, my classic preferences 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.760 are more uh like t Rex Bowie, like I like 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.639 that glam shit. Then uh then like I don't know, 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:46.400 Bob Dylan, Velvet Underground, etcetera, etcetera. Um, all this is said, 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.200 I think you got like a little too hung up 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.160 on the bomb. Well, it was kind of a joke. 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.359 I was also going to throw in the question Bono 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.399 or Bonzo, but then I didn't. Although I don't know, 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.040 Sean seemed like a fun guy, like he was having 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.960 a good time. I probably I like that, dude. I 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.359 just think it's funny that it's bony there, and like, 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.800 you know, everybody who reads just like bon Iver, Like 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:07.399 I said to you, like who we han't on the 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.000 bon bon Iver? Is that a guy You're like? No, Well, 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.720 I don't know. I forget if it made it to 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.640 the actual interview, but I was like, you know, I've 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.800 been calling you got like you know, bon Iver, Bony 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.800 they like da da da da for like years and 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.679 I haven't really ever dedicated myself to learning the correct 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.200 pronunciation of it, and like this is the first time 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.480 that has ever kind of mattered a little bit. He 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.679 was a sport though. He was good. It was and 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.879 you guys know I'm not gonna pronouncing stuff. Uh, you know, 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:36.119 he was. He was a good sport and uh it 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.240 was a good time. And you know what else would 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:42.440 be a good times that beating your ass one last 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:47.920 time in the final showdown, we call fish news. Fish News. 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:54.400 That escalated quickly. So you know, we've used the front 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.120 of News for a year and a half to sort 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.840 of be our I don't know, our shout out kind 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:01.960 of that this is our spot to to shout out 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:06.040 listeners and shout out fans, and uh, I think it's 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:08.720 only fitting that that we use this space this time 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.840 as a huge thank you directly to all the listeners. 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.040 And we have one show left and we're gonna thank 0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:17.760 you a whole bunch more than um. But yeah, I mean, 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:21.200 I I sort of I just feel the need to 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.840 to just take this this moment right before news to 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.240 to just thank you guys so much for listening. To 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:29.560 news because sometimes news is a ship show. Like let's 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:33.320 just be honest, right Like in terms of making the podcast. Okay, 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.920 news is important, I get it, and we like to 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:39.520 keep you up to date on things. Um, but yeah, 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.480 like it can be a little grindy at times, and 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.200 um sometimes we're long winded. Sometimes we say dumb ship 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.280 and you're probably thinking, why would you even flag that 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:51.800 as a story because not much was exactly Sometimes things 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:56.320