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Speaker 1: there is that culture. Yes, goodness loves culture.

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Speaker 2: Das culture calling.

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Speaker 1: We're quickly off to the races with our guests.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing my Hijira hat, yes, and just as a

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing I was thinking, Well last night,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's potential.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not kidding because I was actually texted our

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Speaker 1: vocal coach, Doug pack Pat, and I was like, can

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Speaker 1: And he was like, well, the word is fearless.

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Speaker 2: Well this is fearless singing all your fucking songs in

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Speaker 1: You're crazy, you are crazy. But we haven't even spoken.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even breached that with our guests because we're

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Speaker 2: And she's an expert at both. I can't believe I

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Speaker 2: broached with her reach broached. Last song I listened to

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Speaker 1: And was it the story?

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Speaker 2: It was not the story, but it was off the album. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I will never forget being a nineteen year old singing

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Speaker 2: A Sara Ramire is an underrated Sara Ramire. Shout out

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Speaker 2: to you, Sara. Okay, but anyway, I've told her guests

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Speaker 2: this since then. She is She has inadvertently started the

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Speaker 2: in an opposed apocalyptic world. She's building the mess hall.

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Speaker 2: She's built, She's building the dining hall.

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Speaker 1: Now eleven Grammy Awards two Emmy Awards, an Oscar nomination.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget about that one.

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Speaker 2: Everyone well, if she's a fucking legend. Everyone was running talent.

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Speaker 1: Brandy Carlile, Hey, hey girl, Hey guys, we want to

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Speaker 1: know you said you're fresh from Disney. Yeah, what are

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Speaker 1: the vibes? Oh? Really good, really good. Unbelievable because you

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and then you just regress.

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Speaker 2: Who's there? Are the twins, there are the kids there?

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Speaker 3: Usually the twins, always the kids away? Nowadays, Yeah, are

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Speaker 3: mushroom days at Disney are over? But they did exist.

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Speaker 3: No, we do the California's Great Adventure. We do that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so predatory.

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Speaker 1: And it was like Seattle and it was it was.

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Speaker 3: Well, Seattle is like the older lesbian. She makes you

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Speaker 1: Seattle doesn't chase you. No, Seattle, Seattle, Seattle. Actually that's

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Speaker 1: But Seattle has actually given you so much when you

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Speaker 3: Being on grass of them really everyone that was how

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Speaker 3: Feel like this is making me feel so good right now,

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Speaker 2: Where it's like where it's like the music like Seattle

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the lens through which I see all

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what this thing that you're saying about

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Speaker 3: It all really scares me vocally, and really, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm always kind of like sipping on this perfect

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Speaker 1: You would never know. And you write such difficult stuff

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Speaker 3: I know, what does my wife say? She's like, you've

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Speaker 1: Like what have I tasked myself with again for every show?

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Speaker 2: But it's a choice that you're making because it's like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean I will change that

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Speaker 3: I'll drop that. Yeah, but like right now it's the

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Speaker 1: So what is that? What have you cut out entirely?

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Speaker 3: I mean alcohol when I'm on tour. Yeah, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: It's like very un sexy, but like I become completely

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Speaker 3: owned by my ability to hit the notes. Yeah, that

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Speaker 3: it that way. And I don't know why I envision this,

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Speaker 3: like maybe you guys do this. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Can she do it?

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Speaker 3: That's what I think that they're all doing. It's not

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Speaker 1: They're like like Olympic judges, like that note was not clean.

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Speaker 2: It is we projected onto the audience, Oh as audience.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you do?

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I'd rather it all be perfect,

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Speaker 1: was beautiful, ossional, almost possessional, and but that the experience

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Speaker 3: I know that you're what you're saying is true, and

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Speaker 3: it's about to be scored by Olympic And then I think,

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Speaker 3: when I do let that go, that's when I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: do the real shit. Yeah, Like that's when I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: take some real risks, you know, because I actually think

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Speaker 3: it might be just a little bit repressive and something

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Speaker 3: I'm like gonna untangle ye before I'm.

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Speaker 2: Fifty, before you're fifty. Now do you feel does this

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Speaker 2: sentence ring true to you? I perform behave differently because

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm being watched like that, Like the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, I mean it is it that way

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Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, that was cute, wishs ten thousand

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Speaker 3: people saw that, and then you know, but then you

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Speaker 3: have like normal everyday interpersonal mistakes, you know, like you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit too hard in one of my kids,

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Speaker 1: I see.

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Speaker 2: But ye, I feel like you've really done. You've you've

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Speaker 2: like I think that's like a beautiful sort of like

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Speaker 3: Being alone is the worst.

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Speaker 2: And you guys are talking about like you and I

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Speaker 2: like it's like being alone as being alone is fine

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Speaker 2: until it's not and I love it. I love it

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Speaker 3: My wife loves it too.

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Speaker 1: So then how do you how does this?

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Speaker 2: How does this work for for the two of you

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Speaker 3: Does, Like, no, what about you?

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Speaker 1: Do you? I know I do need to be alone sometimes,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't okay with that, that would be a horrible thing. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you.

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Speaker 3: It's the key is like if you don't like to

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Speaker 3: is that you you kind of learn to be alone

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to stop everything and host you, like

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Speaker 3: I'm going to let you in and show you where

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Speaker 3: going to go back to doing it and you can

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Speaker 3: join me. You cannot join me. I want you there,

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Speaker 3: but I don't want to have to interact, right, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? And so like that is just

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Speaker 3: It's weird because the more people you put around you

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Speaker 3: I think that like the more you can get away

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Speaker 3: Mean, Well, I just think people can play like I

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Speaker 1: all the time, I'm like, well, this is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be a person that's close to me in my space,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't have to like be talking the whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You know it's but it is I don't know for me,

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Speaker 1: Like I I sometimes think like of silence means like

446
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Speaker 1: it's going bad.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, totally.

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Speaker 3: That's also because you guys like live in a city,

449
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Speaker 3: like a major city. Do you think you'll always live in.

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Speaker 1: New York? He's headed out, No, you have designs? Where

451
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Speaker 1: would you go?

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Speaker 3: Because, like I do, I think that like being able

453
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Speaker 3: to step in and out of show business and the

454
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Speaker 3: music business is like a really kind of peaceful away

455
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Speaker 3: for me to keep my sort of inner piece and

456
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Speaker 3: compass point in the right direction. I'm not saying that

457
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Speaker 3: you can't live in a major city and be in

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Speaker 3: show business and not step out, but like, do you

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Speaker 3: ever see yourself living outside of sure?

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Speaker 2: Like I honestly, I'm like, I'm so jealous of you,

461
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Speaker 2: like you have like you're building a dining hall. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 2: that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Literally right now it's called it's called the commons. Are

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Speaker 3: you making a joke as I really am?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm tracking your I'm tracking this. Where are

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Speaker 2: you with it?

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Speaker 3: It's actually going with me. Just I just a little

468
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Speaker 3: while ago, got the text that we passed framing inspection,

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Speaker 3: so we can.

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Speaker 2: Let's what are we thinking?

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Speaker 1: What's the color?

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Speaker 3: What do the color drenching thing?

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just like too much social media, but like

475
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Speaker 3: I'm just so beyond the millennial gray thing, Like I

476
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Speaker 3: want to go like all one bold color, like a

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Speaker 3: cobalt blue or a forest green.

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Speaker 1: I love that paint everything.

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Speaker 2: Don't be afraid of a color, don't be afraid of

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Speaker 2: a color. I've got, I've got what it's called superior

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Speaker 2: blue in my own case where it's it's it's in

482
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Speaker 2: the kitchen, and then it's echoed in the in the

483
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Speaker 2: primary and the guest room is like a forest green,

484
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Speaker 2: and so I feel like this is good.

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Speaker 2: or prevent any disease. US living in a city does not.

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Speaker 1: When the grid goes down, He's going to Ontario.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Ontario. That's what you mean.

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Speaker 3: That's I was gonna ask, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, where

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Speaker 3: are you gonna go?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to Ontario.

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Speaker 1: He's got a plan, all right. It scares me. It

508
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Speaker 1: could happen tonight. But that's what they're saying. That's what

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Speaker 1: they're saying. It's tonight. We're recording this on what's today,

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Speaker 1: April seven? April seven? Anyways. Uh, but like he has

511
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Speaker 1: a whole plan for when the grid goes down, and

512
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Speaker 1: the gays have started to talk about when the grid

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Speaker 1: goes down. I feel like the lesbians have been talking

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Speaker 1: about when the gro goes down a very long time. Prepared.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's big, prep, it's big, it's.

516
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Speaker 2: Prepper, it's prepper culture.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think lesbians are better preppers than gay guys.

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Speaker 3: You want us? You want us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Could you guys be rural gays?

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Speaker 1: II? Those shoes and I'm like, yeah, no, he's sort

524
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Speaker 1: of in a cosplay right now, and that would suggest doorsiness.

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Speaker 2: That's cosplay. But I'm from a lineage of farmers. I'm

526
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Speaker 2: from a linear to farms.

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Speaker 1: I'm from a lineage of farmers, says Bow and Yang.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, I'm for millennia's of hairdressers and gym teachers,

529
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Speaker 1: so we can look cute while we do the works

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Speaker 1: with the gym teacher.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Past the presidential fitness test back in the day. I

533
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Speaker 1: don't know if they do that anymore. I think they do.

534
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Speaker 1: But in the President's name, who can climb a rope? Though?

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Speaker 2: We were supposed to do this so hard to do?

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Speaker 2: We had to do the sit in reach. Sitting reach

537
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Speaker 2: was okay.

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Speaker 1: Then there's the the wall set that wasn't part of

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Speaker 1: the test.

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Speaker 4: Good one.

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Speaker 1: We had to do pull ups okay, push ups, crunches,

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Speaker 1: the mile run, and there was one other thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember it.

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Speaker 1: I think there was five elements of it. Maybe I

545
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Speaker 1: just did five.

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Speaker 3: But that was a rope climb.

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Speaker 2: The rope.

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Speaker 1: The rope climb is not something I'm familiar with.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you guys didn't have to climber Washington crazy Town?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could.

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Speaker 3: Climb a rope and could you could? I couldn't even

552
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Speaker 3: hang off the thing. No, I would just just drop it.

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Speaker 2: What are we getting yet?

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Speaker 1: There? No? What was even that? Yeah? But all I

555
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Speaker 1: ever wanted when I was younger was to have was

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Speaker 1: to be at a fancy enough high school that had

557
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Speaker 1: like the Project Adventure shit. Oh you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like they would have all this shit that was like

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Speaker 1: you know, you could zip line and you could do

560
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Speaker 1: that and this. And now it's like I watched the

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Speaker 1: Survivor Challenges and I'm like, I couldn't get through fifteen

562
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Speaker 1: seconds of this, Like I could, but it wouldn't be fun.

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Speaker 1: When I was younger, I was like, I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to be on Survivor one day. And now I'm like

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Speaker 1: that looks hard.

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Speaker 4: Oh hard?

567
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Speaker 3: Did you ever watch that show Naked and Afraid? Oh

568
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Speaker 3: my god, I have watched every season of Naked and Afraid?

569
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Speaker 1: You love that?

570
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Speaker 3: Would you do it with my children? I would not

571
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Speaker 3: be able to be naked and I wouldn't be afraid,

572
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Speaker 3: but I could do alone. Except for that, I'd have

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Speaker 3: to be alone. And they did have one season where

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Speaker 3: they could pair you. Okay, yeah, so, but I would

575
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Speaker 3: definitely be a pretty good in one of those situations.

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Speaker 2: For a little while, I was Catherine outdoors.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what?

578
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Speaker 3: She's so like a Londoner, Like I'm talking, you know

579
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Speaker 3: what you.

580
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Speaker 1: Spoke a little bit like your British partner. I do this.

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Speaker 2: It's happening, it's beautiful. I love it.

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Speaker 3: We've been married fifteen years now and I hear it

583
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Speaker 3: all the time, and myself, I'm like, what the fuck

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Speaker 3: is that?

585
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Speaker 1: Nob it's good, it's good. I always go the word

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Speaker 1: I can't that he hates when I do this, but

587
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Speaker 1: I go who He's like, that's not a thing, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's very a phrase about. My wife always says.

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Speaker 3: I can't, I can't, I can't can I go you can't,

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Speaker 3: you can't, And she gets so annoying with me when

591
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Speaker 3: I do that.

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00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: It's RP is it received pronunciation?

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00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they also.

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Speaker 3: Don't hear themselves end a ending words in R like bra.

595
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 3: They can't say bra they say, and I know they

596
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: don't hear that. Are you tell them they put an

597
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: R on that. They just like flat out No, sky

598
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: is not blues.

599
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love every second of them speaking.

601
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Speaker 3: It's so gorgeous.

602
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Speaker 1: It really is. You guys ever like fight, No, he

603
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: doesn't raise his voice.

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00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: Okay, what's her fighting style?

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00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: Oh god, she's she rips it.

606
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's Yeah, she's absolutely fireball fireball. Oh

607
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: my god, that girl will fight. I mean I have

608
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: never fought so much in my life. Yeah, and I

609
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: mean I had brothers and sisters. I have like a

610
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Speaker 3: brother that's like a year younger than me. That girl

611
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: can fight and then just over it and a second

612
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 3: like it never happened.

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Speaker 1: And now is that compartmentalizing or is that it actually

614
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Speaker 1: is over?

615
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: Just over?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, moves on.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think gay guys can do that.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean I don't mean to generalize with

619
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Speaker 2: with with lesbians. I just think gay guys they hold

620
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Speaker 2: a fucking grudge.

621
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, there's grudge holding in the lesbian community. Come on,

622
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Speaker 1: let's go.

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Speaker 3: I mean I don't hold a grudge because I'm actually

624
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Speaker 3: so judgmental that I would judge myself for holding a grudge.

625
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: So what I do is worse than grudges. It's very intense.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about being judgmental because in

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Speaker 1: the song Jony, you speak about how she laughs at

628
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: all the pop stars. So do you and Jony privately

629
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Speaker 1: just rip the ship out of the pop girlies or

630
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Speaker 1: do you love everyone.

631
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Speaker 2: Like you know?

632
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Speaker 3: My late millennial feminism won't let me rip the ship

633
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Speaker 3: out of any pop.

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Speaker 1: Up. Some pop guys with her. I love it. So

635
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: see we we actually are the same, like the pop girlies.

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Speaker 1: We love them all them the pop boys look on

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00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: this exactly fair game. Yeah, absolutely, she gets on them.

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00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, John, they're really young, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Them, I mean she does not love that though. If

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Speaker 1: anyone's like fall I'm a pop girl. I want to

641
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Speaker 1: hear Joni Mitchell drag me because.

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Speaker 3: She she's dragged me. She drags me like all the time.

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Speaker 1: Face. Its probably a term of endearment. Yeah, oh no,

644
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: it's heaven. Yeah.

645
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Speaker 2: You these some of these Jony between Joany and Elton,

646
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Speaker 2: they really do they get on your ass?

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Speaker 1: Easy ones? Yeah yeah, like you picked the the icons

648
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Speaker 1: of art.

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00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: The most formidable and intimidating, but soulful and just hear

650
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Speaker 3: human beings. They're so here, they are so present. They

651
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: do not play by the same rules we play by,

652
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: and it's a powerful presence to be in. Let me

653
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Speaker 3: tell you what.

654
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: Wow, I loved because I finally because I watched the

655
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Speaker 2: doc but like after the last year became to just

656
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: and now I watched I watched the the like the

657
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Speaker 2: thirty minute film of You, Of You and What Andrew

658
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: Watt and now I'm writing together. I loved there was

659
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Speaker 2: a Laura Nero song that you guys covered that I

660
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Speaker 2: loved because people forgot about Laura Neiro.

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Speaker 3: I would be a Laura Nero fan.

662
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Speaker 1: It's such a sad gay.

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Speaker 2: I'm a sad gay.

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Speaker 3: I feel like sad gay is a thing, like it's

665
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: becoming a thing. Like we talked about Girls Just Wanna

666
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: This last year. I saw more gay men at Girls

667
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: Just Wanna than I have ever seen.

668
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: We're sadder than ever, sadder than ever.

669
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love it because, well, the taste in

670
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: music is just off the charts.

671
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: It's We're gonna see them all at folkne this weekend.

672
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: She's going on the same time as Sabrina Carridge, So

673
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: we're no, we're not that.

674
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: Can I say that might be my I don't think so, honey.

675
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: At the end of this episode is Coachella said times

676
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: have come out and we're going this weekend. I can't

677
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: believe what they're making people choose. I know it's Twigs

678
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, yeah, why should people have to choose?

679
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: That was gotten very high pitched.

680
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I haven't even warmed up. You're looking at two countertenors.

681
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: I am not a countertenor.

682
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Well, the joke's on you because you are.

683
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: Wait, we will I and we we're just inviting ourselves

684
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: to Girls Just Wanna. You don't have to put us.

685
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: It's your hosting. We promised if you.

686
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: Come to Girls Just Wanna with me next year, you

687
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: will be like my guests of honor. We will have

688
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: such a good time and we will sing a night

689
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 3: of the living nineties, will come up with one ninety song.

690
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: It can be as sadd as gay as we want.

691
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll do it. Oh yeah, we're like Meredith Brooks.

692
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: We're talking. Oh you know some low ath fair moment.

693
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: Yep, this is what we needed back and you knew it. Yeah,

694
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: you knew it. Yeah, because you know so, I am

695
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: of the experience of my parents did not let me

696
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: watch MTV. Okay, so v H one defined me and

697
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 1: they were the ones in the late nineties giving all

698
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: the love to Like, my idea of sexuality is not

699
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: like you know, Christina Aguilera, like writhing on the ground,

700
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: Like I appreciate that, but like my idea of sexuality

701
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: is like Shania Twain walking on the beach. Oh yeah,

702
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: while like like someone strummed a guitar and that was

703
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: then Lilith Fair and it was like all like it

704
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: was like oh my god, like yeah, like you said,

705
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: like Meredith Brooks and like McLaughlin and like like Natalie

706
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: and Brulia at that time, like you know, god, there

707
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: was also another one. My god, no, Natalie Merchant. This

708
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: opened the door.

709
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: So it's that it's it's that sad gay.

710
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: That that is a sad gay.

711
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to be said, but that being your

712
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: like you know.

713
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: Proclivity, that is you and you are you welcome them

714
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: with open arms to girls.

715
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it's made for you.

716
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: Like a like a fun lively place.

717
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

718
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing.

719
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: It's like, it's that's what that's what the sad gays do.

720
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: And by the way, strap person can be a sad gay.

721
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: It's like it is like mixing like on a bashi

722
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: shameless expression you know, of of emotion, unguarded with just

723
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: like lighthearted this and overused word but joy.

724
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, just arms up over your.

725
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: Head, dancing under the stars and screaming and yelling like

726
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: there's no tomorrow and then being able to like listen

727
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: to a Jewel song from you know nineteen ninety four.

728
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: Oh God, laying on your bedroom floor just crying to

729
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: everybody hurts by Iram, Oh my god.

730
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: My god.

731
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, Jewel, just by the way, Jewels,

732
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: by the way, Jewel, Like foolish Games, that's my karaoke song.

733
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: I need to be a girls just wanna.

734
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: You guys should sing Foolish Games together.

735
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: Me and Jewel or me and Matt, you and mas Yeah,

736
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: I think me and Matt too.

737
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: I think I think that would be really amazing. But

738
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: you were meant for me. I remember, like I chemically

739
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: altered that I loved Jewels.

740
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: It was the it was the pause before the ah

741
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: man for It's the pause for.

742
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: The last word. And there's also like she she released

743
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: the album and then the single versions like there's a

744
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: different version of you or meant for me, and there's

745
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: a different version of Foolish Games, and like they do that,

746
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: they would do that back then. Back then there was

747
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: like three versions of everything.

748
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: When I listened to it now here she has so

749
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: many voices, like and there was such an emotional so

750
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: many voices. But when I think when she goes into

751
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: the bit we're just like like that. I'm like, how

752
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: did she not loses?

753
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: Like hook?

754
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: But it's like I felt the emotion from that. Yeah,

755
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 3: but like for some reason it goes into something where

756
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: it sounds like it could almost be parody, and then

757
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: is working.

758
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: Yes, that's fearless singing.

759
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I.

760
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: Literally replaced her voice. That must have been what it

761
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: was because and then it's so different.

762
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: There's some Shakira in there.

763
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the origins you know that shakira?

764
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that you're referring to.

765
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean there's like a yawn, you know, the Whi's

766
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: the general.

767
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: Yon No, No, I'm a grown woman.

768
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: Girls. Yeah. Cursive sing Oh that's the other thing.

769
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: That's my thoughts are, where did it start? What started it?

770
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: I can't find it? Like I can find the origins

771
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: of all kinds of singing that turned into a thing, right,

772
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: and then the originator of that singing doesn't bother me,

773
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: whereas like the ripple effect of it does, of correct,

774
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: But I can't find the origins of that. I'm talking

775
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: early two thousands is when I first started hearing instead

776
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: of love Live. Yeah you know what I mean?

777
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

778
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm also trying to find it, but it

779
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: is it did it took over?

780
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it took over. Yeah, and it became a thing

781
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: like no one can say birds everybody his bides.

782
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, my thing, my pet peeve and look some of

783
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: our some of our favorites do. This is just saying

784
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: the word goddamn to like fill in to like fill

785
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: in the scanson and the syllables.

786
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: I've done that.

787
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: I think.

788
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: No, I think it's fine. I just think it's been popular.

789
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: I never I never aware, but I'm sure I did.

790
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: No, I did it.

791
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 3: I remember now it's in the it's on the album

792
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: what album?

793
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: Is it?

794
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: A goddamn?

795
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 4: Liar?

796
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 3: I say, could have said anything, but I said goddamn.

797
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: Do you agree though? Was goddamn a placeholder or do

798
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: you stand Tanto's town in your use of goddamn? I

799
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: don't know.

800
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: I think it's like vacation, Bible School, Sunday School, Ajana's

801
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: language for like the worst thing you can say. So

802
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: as soon as we get punk rock, we put it

803
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 3: into anything we get. But that's probably just a nineties

804
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: baby thing. I don't know, is it not? Goddamn is

805
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: like the worst thing you can say? Yeah, No, you

806
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: cannot say what words could you not say? Okay, So

807
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: when I was really young, it was weird things like dang.

808
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: And heck and we're not permitted to say day. No,

809
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: it was weird.

810
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: It's it's totally weird because like, my parents are not

811
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: strict people at all. In fact, I'm very free range

812
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: human being. But like, for a minute there, when I

813
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 3: was like really young, there were like you couldn't say

814
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: you didn't like something. You had to say you didn't

815
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: care for it. You couldn't say dang, you couldn't say heck,

816
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: you couldn't say shoot. Anything that was like reminiscent of

817
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 3: a curse.

818
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: And it was just like weird.

819
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: Odds was off the table, off the table. But now

820
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: that I have kids, you know, I WinCE when they

821
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: say dang and heck, and I'm like, keep your mouth shut.

822
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: That's some dysfunctional shit you do not need to carry forward.

823
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: Interesting that it.

824
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: Still let them say dangam heck.

825
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: Yes, for God's sake, my.

826
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: Parents are playing a prank on you. Huh do you

827
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: think your parents are playing a prank on you?

828
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

829
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: Because right now I cannot imagine my parents having a

830
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: rule of any kind.

831
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: Of Oh good, Yeah, because they're because the let the

832
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: kids say what they want.

833
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what that was. That was some weird

834
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 3: like that was some weird you know. Nineteen eighty four,

835
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: how lindsay Late Great Planet Earth, Heaven's Gate cold religious

836
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: movement that happened in the late eighties and early nineties

837
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: and led the people of my parents' generation to go

838
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 3: making nuts, and we're seeing the repercussions.

839
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 2: Of it are Yeah.

840
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting that you just mentioned entering into the

841
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: nineties because we are now at the point of the

842
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: show where we ask you about your culture, your form

843
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: of culture. So, Brandy Carlisle, what was the culture that

844
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: made you say culture was for you?

845
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: Well, there were so many things. I feel like I

846
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: had such a rich era to sort of come of

847
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: age in. I was born in nineteen eighty one, so

848
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety two ninety three, country music sort of

849
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: got big, but Scout and Boogie came out. Yeah, okay,

850
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: And while country music is getting big, there is a

851
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: lot happening in gay culture. Tom Hanks and the Philadelphia Films.

852
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: I heard the Indigo Girls the first time. In that soundtrack,

853
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: you add Katie Lang and Cindy Crawford on the cover

854
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: of Vanity Fair and Katie Langskin in their face shaved

855
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: by Cindy Crawford is like one of the sexiest gender

856
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: bending photos the nineties. And then Katie Lane crosses over

857
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: into country music because she was a country music singer,

858
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 3: like an opry queen. Lawrence Welk show. Yeah, you know,

859
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: big boned gal from southern Alberta just couldn't call Who's small?

860
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: You know, she was like she was the queen in

861
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: that sense, you know, for me. And so there's this

862
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: intersection happening between queer culture and country music. You know,

863
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: Melissa Ethrich comes out with yes I am. What else

864
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: was going on? I mean everybody says that. You know,

865
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: the Ellen DeGeneres coming out moment nineteenninety seven was monumental,

866
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: but there was even stuff before that. It was happening

867
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: in TV like but not nothing as important as Ellen

868
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: coming out. But you guys remember the audacity of the

869
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: Roseanne kiss.

870
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean at least.

871
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 3: It was a wild thing, right, Like there was all

872
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: this controversy around like Roseanne bar getting kissed on her show.

873
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: So all this queer.

874
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: Stuff was happening in between nineteen ninety three and nineteen

875
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: ninety seven while country music was coming up, and then

876
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: country music did this weird thing. It got queer, and

877
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure that the mainstream, like the rest

878
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: of the world knew it, but they weren't. We were

879
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: dressing like cowboys. All of our gay bars turned into

880
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 3: get names like Timberline and you know, the Trucker and tracks,

881
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: and next thing you know, there's all these gay people

882
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: line dancing.

883
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: Yep to this day, to this very day, kind of

884
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: like a boom again down country and yeah, yeah, yeah.

885
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: And so I feel like between the era of like

886
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three and nineteen ninety seven was the birth

887
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: of the rural queer. Yes, And so that is a

888
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: formative moment in my life because it showed me that

889
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: too seemingly diametrically opposed things can coexist.

890
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: And that's like the queerest thing possible, Yeah, exactly, intersecting

891
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: these things that no one would ever think to bring together,

892
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: and then that paves the way for broke Back Mountain and.

893
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: For and then inevitably exactly allowed to Broke Back Mountain.

894
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: In the early two thousands was.

895
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: Boys Don't Cry. I mean, I don't know if you

896
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 2: would call that like country necessary, but there's something rural

897
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: about it. There's something like it was.

898
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: Right in that moment they challenged people's sensibility. There was

899
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: also a lot of things that came out during that

900
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: time that were really important. Boys on the Side came

901
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: out Woldburg Wow, and and Mary Lewis Drivers was in

902
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: that too, and then uh oh my was that all

903
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: Ward time?

904
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: It was just before it was.

905
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 3: Chris Folks. Elward came after that. But the Bird Cage

906
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: with Nathan Lane, well, I still that.

907
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: Is the movie I put on if I need to,

908
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: like ye a laugh so wild to know that he

909
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: remained closeted publicly through.

910
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: I didn't even know this.

911
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was like he he would go out

912
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: for interviews alongside Robin and they would ask uncomfortable questions.

913
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: Oprah asked him. Oprah asked Nathan Lane, like so like

914
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: just I forget what she asked, specifically Robin Williams like

915
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: gets in there and the most respectful way to all

916
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: involved is just like that's just like not you know,

917
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: we're just here portraying, like we just had so much

918
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: fun portraying this couple. Like let's I mean, it's it's

919
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: like the.

920
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: Atmosphere like jokes out of it, like he would to like,

921
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, steer away from what was completely uncharted terrain.

922
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: It's just so funny to think about how maximalist country

923
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: music was at that time. Too.

924
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: Well, we had so many divas. That's the other thing too.

925
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: It was like there was like you we had your

926
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: bet share, yeah, you know, your bet share pop moment,

927
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: and then we had we had Reba and we have

928
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: wind No Nah Judd by the way, Whina Judd, yeah everything, yeah, exactly,

929
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: and so we we definitely had these kind of country divas,

930
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 3: which led to Shania Twain, yes, you know.

931
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: Another Canadian legend like.

932
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: Mention and also you know, like I just remember, like,

933
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: oh god, one of the best ever is.

934
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 4: Does He Love You Love Me? Whispers? Whispers?

935
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: And then oh so good music, That's what I mean,

936
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Like that gay ass song like that. You know, every

937
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: drag queen is trying to get their other drag queen

938
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: to do it with them. But yeah, what is this

939
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: like you got if you.

940
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: Know, you know, if you know you know, And that's

941
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. That is the culture. That is

942
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: the cultural moment that most impacted me because it created

943
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 3: a different kind of thinking of expressing.

944
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: Have you connected with Kelly Clarkson about this.

945
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: We never talked about it, but every time you guys

946
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 3: are right, there are we yes. And I also feel

947
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: like that's what I mean when I say it's not

948
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: just you're really like I feel like.

949
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: When I listened to her, I listened, I feel like

950
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: there's like you guys sing from a similar She.

951
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: Can really sing. Yeah, I mean that girl. She is

952
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: an actual freak. Her mix like her ability to be

953
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: up and she doesn't actually have a head voice, like

954
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 3: it goes all the way to the top. She's crazy

955
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: where her head voice would be and there's no break

956
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: in it, and it's it's incredible what she can do,

957
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: how she can control it. She's steady too.

958
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: I bring her up, Oh God, please, the best ever

959
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: because she had like again, like I was like eleven

960
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: when Kelly was on American Idol, and American Idol exposed

961
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: me so much to the other genres of music because

962
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: I think it did for so many kids that age.

963
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: And she sing does he Love You? With her idol

964
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: Reba McIntyre on American Idol years ago after she had won,

965
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: they did like a special and it was like, now

966
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: Kelly's going to sing with her idol. It was Reba

967
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: McIntyre and they sang does He Love You? And Riba

968
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: did her part, and you know, like it was it

969
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: was just so great and so hearing you talk about them,

970
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: I just wondered, Oh, I'm going.

971
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: To tell you something so much fun. Then here's a

972
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: little bit of inside ball for you about McIntyre and

973
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 3: Kelly Clarkson. So I went to the wedding of Blake

974
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: Shelton and Miranda Lambert.

975
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

976
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: I sang them down the aisle with the story another era, Yeah.

977
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: Back in the day.

978
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: Not everybody knows this. Yeah, And they had a party

979
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: at the end like you would expect, and then it

980
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: was karaoke, ah, and everybody was like getting drunk and

981
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: singing karaoke, and Kelly Clarkson was there and Reeba McIntyre

982
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: was there, and they started singing together and then they

983
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: just like didn't get off the stage, like the party

984
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 3: was over, and we had to take these like shuttle

985
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: busses to, you know, back to the hotel. And I

986
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: remember a whole shuttle bus was waiting for McIntyre and

987
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 3: I could hear her singing fancy from the bus, singing

988
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: her own songs on stage, karaokeing with Kelly Clarkson doing

989
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: Carmony's and I was like, these bitches are everything everybody

990
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: hopes they are and no one knows, but now.

991
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's so good. So Red. Also Kelly's cover

992
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: of Fancy at the County Center Forget It.

993
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: I remember it all very well looking beggables turned you

994
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: gotta do it?

995
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: I know every word?

996
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: Has this been recorded? You singing Fancy?

997
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: I get drunk and sing this all the time, and

998
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: I don't even look at the screen. I don't even

999
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: glance at it. I know it so well.

1000
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: That's one of the best songs ever ever.

1001
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: It's so dark. And Bobby Gentry, that's an id. Lights

1002
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: went out in Georgia, same thing. Oh, that's that whole

1003
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: she was gonna. No one knows where she is, by

1004
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: the way, Bobby Gentry, what yeah, do you not know

1005
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: that she's missing? She's totally missing. She just went poof

1006
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: and like disappeared, and people have said that they've found

1007
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: her and like, no one knows where she is.

1008
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's dark. I feel like she was

1009
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:02,640
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1030
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: and we were there for a bachelor bachelor party. Dold

1031
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: Kim Booster's bachelor party, and we were going to go

1032
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: on a swamp tour, and we thought, do we go

1033
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: the extra hour out of our way to get Londa

1034
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: del Ray's husband to give us a swamp tour?

1035
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: Yes, yes we do.

1036
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: We didn't, but we should have really should have. Know

1037
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: it's a swamp tour your vibe. No, that's just a

1038
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Speaker 1: b several swamp tours.

1039
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, you'd love it, but

1040
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: what Pacific nor the rest is nice where it's like

1041
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: the humidity is not oppressive.

1042
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: In the Northwest is beautiful, but when you get on

1043
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 3: the Louisiana you gotta do swamp get Yeah.

1044
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: I loved it.

1045
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: It was pouring too, but it was kind of good

1046
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: use the way they the crocodiles crocodiles, the way the

1047
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: alligators come up like dogs because they're like it's time

1048
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: to eat them. And it was freakish. I couldn't believe

1049
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: a dinosaur was on on boat.

1050
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were so endearing.

1051
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: No, they were great.

1052
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: Well, and you see them in like the primitive like

1053
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: part of you know is that they're prehistoric in a way,

1054
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: and you just like you know you're witnessing something really

1055
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: interesting people live down there. They're just like fish to them.

1056
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: No. My favorite was our boat captain was like, someone asked, so,

1057
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: how long have you been friends with this alligator and

1058
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, we're not.

1059
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: Uld and then shows us as pinky with He would

1060
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: give me he don't get me.

1061
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: They don't girl.

1062
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: And then we were like, oh my god, it was

1063
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: they are these are these people are incredible.

1064
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: His name was Kelly, Kelly, Kelly Gatt and Kelly, you give.

1065
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: Me feel like he is one of my family members.

1066
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels like he felt family to us by

1067
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, he was surprisingly accepting of our homosexuality.

1068
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: We were gay guy, gay guys on that boat, and

1069
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: he was you play it up for him to It

1070
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: wasn't played.

1071
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: I didn't need to be like when again, I almost

1072
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: said crocodile When alligat hops on the boat, gay guys

1073
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: are going to scream, that's the coature. Number six guys

1074
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: are going to scream.

1075
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true that you know the first time you

1076
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: said crocodile.

1077
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: He knew right then.

1078
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: He was like fund to say, alligators just doesn't not

1079
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: not a good crocodile is.

1080
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: The gay alligator and that's what the coach of number

1081
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: nine crocodile is the gay alligator. That's it's just crocodiles

1082
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: live in a different part of the world.

1083
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: That's right.

1084
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1085
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: Do you get do you get like I'm going to

1086
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: say the word fussy about like wildlife identification, because I

1087
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: feel like, since you're a fisher man, you can you

1088
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: you of course you have to be like, well, that's

1089
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: a cod, and that's this, and that's that. I'm like,

1090
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: it's it's all fish. It's all in the water.

1091
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: So are you offended? Are you offended when we say

1092
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: and fund offended?

1093
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: Not about the crocodile thing, but when you say it's

1094
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: all fish, It's.

1095
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: Like, that's crazy. That is a diverse spectrum. That's crazy.

1096
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: Walk us through because it's not my culture yet, walk

1097
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: us through the oceanet but watching you pull up these

1098
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: these fish, it's it's incredible.

1099
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: I am fishing season starts today and yes, this is

1100
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 3: my pain through holiday.

1101
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 4: And I am.

1102
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: I have my RV is running at home. I will

1103
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 3: be in that RV the minute I land and I'll

1104
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: be headed out to the Straits of Onandafuca to go

1105
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: and catch lying cod and rockfish. So there are entire

1106
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: seasons around these species and they can live you know,

1107
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: you know the fish I'm talking about living twenty to

1108
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 3: sixty feet of water, Like by July, I'll be out

1109
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: in thousands of feet of water fishing for halibut on

1110
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 3: you know, underwater plateaus of five hundred feet with electric reels.

1111
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 3: And then it's going to be spot prown season and

1112
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: I'll be dropping you know, spot pron cages four hundred

1113
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 3: feet down and catching like drop yeah, yeah, and then

1114
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: it'll be dungeness crab and.

1115
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: Oh I love dungeness crab, the best crab.

1116
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is when we do come up to the Pacific.

1117
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Used to work at a crab restaurant, okay, and Dungeoness

1118
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: crab by far the best from the Northwest. Oyster oyster that.

1119
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: Well, it's originally it would be a Japan but we

1120
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 3: we we farm them and we have them around and.

1121
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: Pen of course in spots.

1122
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's conducive.

1123
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: You you were sorry, you were, you were in the zone.

1124
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: You were You're you're talking electric electric cages electric.

1125
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's.

1126
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm I'm wrapped.

1127
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1128
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 3: Well, there are so many different seasons and so many

1129
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 3: different fish and ways to catch them in places to go,

1130
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: and then all the things that happen around that little

1131
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: ritual like, oh, you know it's halibuit season, we're going

1132
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: to go out here and we're gonna get Halbut but

1133
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: when you're out there, that's when you see the orcas.

1134
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: Or that's just off the Olympic mountains enough to where

1135
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 3: you've got this beautiful mountain view all the time. But

1136
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 3: yet's take drama me. Because you're in the swells, everything

1137
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: has little details like associated with it. And that's why

1138
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 3: fishing is like such an immersive culture that you get

1139
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: into and you just like you speak to people in

1140
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 3: the dock in a series of grunts instead of words,

1141
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: and everybody gets called captain and and nobody's a singer

1142
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: or you know, it's like everyone's on the same level

1143
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: in the open seat.

1144
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: You ever come face to face with a great white.

1145
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 3: No, we don't really do the shark thing out there,

1146
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 3: but you know we see a lot of orcas.

1147
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: See they're they're just as as dangerous they.

1148
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: Are scary, but they're beautifl they're so beautiful.

1149
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: You've got sea lions out there, Oh yeah, they're huge, huge,

1150
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: I love them.

1151
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 3: They're amazing. I like, they just flop everywhere.

1152
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: I agree, they just like slug into the water. What

1153
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: say you about that phenomenon that was happening with the

1154
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: Orca whales a couple years ago where they start sort

1155
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: of strike back.

1156
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're doing that in your it's I do not

1157
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 3: know what to say about that. My suspicion is that

1158
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: there are many things called Orca whales and that these

1159
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: are totally different critters than what we see up in

1160
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: the P and W. But so that's what I tell

1161
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 3: myself when I'm offshore in my own boat. Yes, but

1162
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: we have not seen a single aggressive tactic from an

1163
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 3: arc of whale west ever.

1164
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: I should hope not. Yeah, so you you love this

1165
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: culture because it is completely outside of what you do professionally.

1166
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: Let's say, I think so, and that is refreshing and

1167
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: so therefore it would be just a complete adulteration of

1168
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 2: the beauty of fishing if you were to write music

1169
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: about it, Like if you if you were like, is

1170
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: there a fishing album in the future? I think if you,

1171
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: if Brandy Carlo came out with like a yacht rock

1172
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: fishing album, Wow, I.

1173
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: Could do that, Yes you could.

1174
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: I could do it.

1175
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: I did see I'm gonna.

1176
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 3: Trademarking anything fishing album idea. No, I think it would.

1177
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 4: It would.

1178
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 3: I want fishing to come into my job in in

1179
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: a different way. I think I've been thinking about it,

1180
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: about what I could do to make fishing a part

1181
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: of my job.

1182
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: A barge concert, A barge concert.

1183
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: Well thoughts on Jimmy Buffett.

1184
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I loved Jimmy Buffett, Oh my god,

1185
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 3: so me. I got to be friends with Jimmy Buffett

1186
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 3: toward the end of his life that rocks and I

1187
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: sang at his memorial, Uh, oh you did come Monday, yeah,

1188
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: saying come Monday.

1189
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 2: I did.

1190
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 3: I did?

1191
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 4: Oh God.

1192
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: And before Jimmy died, I could text him from anywhere

1193
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 3: in the world and I could.

1194
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: Say, Hey, I'm in uh you know, I'm off.

1195
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: Of Saint John, and I want to go northwest and

1196
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: I want to get some TUNEA what do I do?

1197
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 3: And he'd go go to bed early tomorrow morning. I

1198
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 3: got my guy coming to pick you up, and there'd

1199
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: be somebody to take me on a boat from the

1200
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: scent by Jimmy Buffett, or I was sent in boats

1201
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 3: by Jimmy Buffett to catch fish. So many freaking times

1202
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 3: that he couldn't even come do because he was doing

1203
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 3: concerts or on the road. But he just wants other

1204
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 3: people to be able to fish.

1205
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah.

1206
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 3: And then I would get like phone calls and text

1207
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: from like random lesbians and they'd be like, I hope

1208
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: you don't mind. We got your phone number from Jimmy.

1209
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 3: It's like that's how he would make friends with random lesbians.

1210
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 3: Like on the water, he'd like meet like a lesbian

1211
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 3: couple like unloading their boat, and he'd be like, y'all

1212
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: know Brandy.

1213
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 4: Carlyle, Yeah, like lesbians, gospel.

1214
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: Man, beautiful.

1215
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: Loved Jimmy Buffet and I love love his wife Jane.

1216
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1217
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like he was a fixture in my

1218
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: life growing up. And my dad was such a parrot

1219
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: head that we I don't think he knew this was happening,

1220
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: but he collected parrots to the point where our whole

1221
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: back room was just a parrot.

1222
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 3: Room in honor of Jimmy.

1223
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I saw its gorgeous.

1224
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: It was, I mean, there were so many parrots everywhere.

1225
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: And then I think he's I think he was like,

1226
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: maybe I have take some some parrots down because Matthew

1227
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: keeps breaking his friends home and they laugh at the room.

1228
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: No, it's not that we know.

1229
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: We didn't laugh. It was just a lot of parrots.

1230
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it was just shrine to to Jimmy. Yeah,

1231
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 2: it was amazing of life.

1232
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: Did his family get you into Jimmy Buffett too?

1233
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 4: I know any songs?

1234
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: I don't know too many Jimmy Buffett songs I love.

1235
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: I love them.

1236
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I love Margaritaville, But I'm talking about the deep cuts on.

1237
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: He's kind of like Kenny Rogers in that way he has,

1238
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 3: like all this other stuff is like folk music. That's

1239
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: just that's kind of really take you by surprise.

1240
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 4: But he didn't.

1241
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: He didn't worry about telling it how it was in

1242
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 3: a song, kind of like Willie Nelson.

1243
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1244
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when even as someone who does know where

1245
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna go when the volcano blows, she still doesn't know.

1246
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: It's so good not he did not take himself too

1247
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 3: seriously brilliant.

1248
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: I love that.

1249
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: I feel like we're missing well, you know that's actually

1250
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: kind of not true. That guy high again. I was

1251
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: gonna say, and now I'm warming up around you. No,

1252
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: but I feel like I do, like in lyrics. That's

1253
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: that's why I like Sabrina Carpenter so much, because she

1254
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: just will fucking and Charlie does this too. It's like

1255
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: you can tell they were just having fun and following

1256
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: the fun lyrically, and I think that's what gets people

1257
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: singing your songs forever. I'm working late because I'm a singer.

1258
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: Sounds like a Jimmy Buffett lyric. It does you know

1259
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1260
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: Are you guys in the seamat yet?

1261
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1262
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: For you because I'm upset.

1263
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 3: I mean I watched everything that that that band does.

1264
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: I think she is such a star. Yeah, we have

1265
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: her for like five seconds and then she will be untouchable.

1266
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: To all of us. Had a great feeling though, I yeah.

1267
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: Because I really don't think anything can stop her. I

1268
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: think she's a once every five hundred year star.

1269
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: It's unlike anything I've heard, and well it's it's it's

1270
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: I I haven't heard anything like her. Her year country

1271
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: album like in So Long Angela, Yeah a Coachella and

1272
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: then and then Jensen McCrae's opening for you, We love

1273
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: we love her.

1274
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: Oh man, you want to talk about lyrics? Lethal lorcist

1275
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 3: lethal lyrics.

1276
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: So good that we had her performed Massachusetts on the

1277
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: Culture Awards last year. We gave it a Record of

1278
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: the Year nom. I literally gotten her DMS. I was like, Hi,

1279
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm a can you perform her on the show? She came.

1280
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: Her brother accompanied hertely beautiful form, radiance so amazing. She's

1281
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: got four voices in one voice like jewel Tube. She

1282
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: really does. She's fab.

1283
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: We did a song together actually, oh really, God has

1284
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 3: a hit man. It's really great song.

1285
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1286
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: Also we cover Dear Myster President.

1287
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Pink the Endigo Girls, She's always a girl.

1288
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 3: Just wanted you guys this. You got to be there.

1289
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: We're definitely coming. Oh that's that's gonna be then.

1290
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: But then, but then you're gonna be You're You're not

1291
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: gonna be drinking. We're gonna.

1292
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: Want to drink.

1293
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 3: By the end of that, I'm so red and bloated.

1294
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: The tequila fully has permeated my being at that point.

1295
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: Because where are you though? Because where in Mexico is it?

1296
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: It's PLI to Carmen.

1297
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so fab, it's so good, and everybody there

1298
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 3: is like it's just really it's such a free place,

1299
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 3: like I can't tell you it's like everybody there is

1300
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: getting a break from something that holds them back at home,

1301
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: whether it's like body consciousness or a lack of safety

1302
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 3: or acceptance, or there is something that everybody is going

1303
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: to get a temporary break from at that weekend, and

1304
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: then they're going to recharge their batteries and they're going

1305
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 3: to go home and get to work. But it's that

1306
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: kind of an environment, that's what it's for. We don't

1307
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: ignore what's wrong with anything or anyone, but it's not

1308
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 3: a place to feel self conscious or inhibited. And so

1309
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 3: it makes it really.

1310
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: Wild and it's a cathartic community experience. It is. Yeah,

1311
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 1: and it's wild.

1312
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: Like I'm not going to say it's not wild. We

1313
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 3: go crazy. But then but what somebody said about it,

1314
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 3: But it's the kind of place where if you lose

1315
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 3: your child, they're going to come back to you, fed

1316
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: with sunscreen on.

1317
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: More educated, with the better sense of the world.

1318
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm having a kid just so I can lose

1319
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 2: them at girls just wanna that's amazing.

1320
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: When I was seventeen, I was at Low Affair, which

1321
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: was nineteen ninety seven, and I was just a little

1322
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 3: punk ass baby dyke with you know, an inch and

1323
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 3: a half of bleach blonde hair. Now I have about

1324
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: three inches. And I had like a big bucket of

1325
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: mountain dew and I was like going back up to

1326
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 3: my like the mountain dew hut to like get my

1327
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: free refill.

1328
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: Of mountain dew.

1329
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: And this like some lesbian standing behind and lying behind me,

1330
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 3: and she sees my sunburned shoulders and she's like, what

1331
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: are you getting? And I was like, I'm getting my

1332
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: mountain dew refill and she's like, no, you need to

1333
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 3: drink some water.

1334
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, well that's expensive.

1335
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: The refill is free or whatever.

1336
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 3: And she's like, I'm gonna get you some water and

1337
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: just hold still. I need to get some sound screen

1338
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: on these shoulders.

1339
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: Yea.

1340
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 3: And I mean that was my experience of Little Fair.

1341
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: I thought I was being so punk rocket and to

1342
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: go to that festival and.

1343
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: We actually got married kind of exactly, well, yeah, I mean.

1344
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: We'll be there. We got to go.

1345
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: We have to catch the vibe that girls just wanna,

1346
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean, especially because you know Coachell is going to

1347
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: make it difficult to see everyone. It's actually time, it

1348
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: might be time to do anything transition into I don't

1349
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: think so, honey, because I'm hot on this now.

1350
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you guys have about one more year of

1351
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 3: being Coachella gays and after that, I know, I.

1352
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: Got another decade. You got another decade.

1353
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 4: I see that too. It was like, I love, I love.

1354
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: What I love about it is that you see everyone

1355
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: like I loved. A couple of years ago, Debbie Harry

1356
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: was playing Coachella and I was like it was clear

1357
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: that like so many people were there just to see Debbie. Yeah,

1358
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: and I love that about it. I was like, all

1359
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: you really need is to follow the week.

1360
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 3: And I sort of see them.

1361
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: And what I also loved is like every year without fair,

1362
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: without fail. I don't know why I can't spa every

1363
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: year without fail. I end up discovering someone who's huge

1364
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: two years later, Like two years ago, we were walking

1365
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: and I was it was the Gobi Tan and I

1366
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: was just like, I like what I'm hearing over here,

1367
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: And it was Olivia Dean And now she's like truly international, great, what.

1368
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: A what a huge vote of confidence?

1369
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? God?

1370
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: And like she doesn't write an essay on it, she

1371
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: just saw her saying and was like that's great.

1372
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, What do you think it is that gets hurt?

1373
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: There's like the thoughtful singing, is it the lyrics? What pings? Joan?

1374
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 3: I wish I knew.

1375
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: You don't know.

1376
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. Like there's just certain things like even

1377
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 3: you know, I watched the whole Grammys with our sat

1378
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 3: next door, you know, which is harrowing. It's the camera

1379
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: and there were only just there was just a few

1380
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 3: things where she was like wow, and Olivia was one

1381
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 3: of them.

1382
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I love it too, So I

1383
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: actually never know.

1384
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 3: I think it's like some kind of a weird light

1385
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 3: detector tests she has for authenticity or something like that,

1386
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: which is what I hope it is, you know. And

1387
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty powerful.

1388
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1389
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: And like, at the risk of sounding like horribly ageist,

1390
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: it's like, well, that's proof that like her like her

1391
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: meter is like very attuned. It's like she's like can

1392
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: watch something, receive it and be like that's good, that's

1393
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: unremarkable whatever.

1394
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: And she's beholden to nothing. She's not beholden to my

1395
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 3: opinion of her opinion, you know, it's just whatever she thinks.

1396
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: I will say she is. I'm not gonna say obsessed.

1397
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 3: Because's beneath Johnny to say that word. But she really

1398
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: loves Bruno Mars. Of course, absolutely loves can until Bruno

1399
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 3: Mars had played and was just like, you know, it's

1400
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: not like Johnnie can just get stand up, but she

1401
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 3: was like, I'm standing up.

1402
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Spiritually it was d dancing.

1403
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's her favorite. Bruno.

1404
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: Well, she likes the silk Sonic stuff all the time,

1405
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 3: getting ready and stuff.

1406
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: That's the thing is ultimately it is great, yeah, great, And.

1407
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: She always goes, I'm a dangerous man.

1408
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: That's kind of.

1409
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: I love that song.

1410
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta do. I don't think so honey.

1411
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: This is if you don't know, now, you know our

1412
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: one minute segment where we take something in culture that's

1413
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: not so great or that we feel a way about.

1414
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: We work it out on the remix aka the podcast.

1415
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 2: They have something okay, great, this is Matt Rodgers. I

1416
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: don't think so many's time starts now.

1417
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey Coachella, because the set times

1418
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: have come out by now that it will already have happened,

1419
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: so I'll already have figured this out. But I don't

1420
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: want to decide between some of these artists and you

1421
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: don't make it easy too, because they're very far away,

1422
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: so I can't split time at the Sahara and the Mojave.

1423
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: It's like a true journey. And I don't think so

1424
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: honey that, like Sabrina, Carpenter is also not last on Friday.

1425
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean that a bunch of stuff happens.

1426
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: You were excited about disclosure after Sabrina thirty seconds.

1427
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: That could be fun.

1428
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: He wants to catch a vibe. But basically I'm not

1429
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: actually upset because I'll just get there and I'll kind

1430
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: of vibe out and I will and I'll only forty

1431
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: percent be here on the physical plane, so by the

1432
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: time everything happens, I'll be fine. But Coachello, just make

1433
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: it a little bit easier. There's a big confident Duke

1434
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: Dumont and major laser that should be at the same time,

1435
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: and that happens again and again. I don't think so honey,

1436
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: Coachella for this reason. I do think so honey, that

1437
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: you give those water bottles out. There's only two dollars

1438
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: and you can you can refill them. You know, you

1439
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: could be charging nineteen dollars a water bottle, and you

1440
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: don't do that. So thank you Coachella. I'll give you

1441
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: credit for that. How much time do I have?

1442
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

1443
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: Yes, this is okay.

1444
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: You know Europe, the water would be free.

1445
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: It two dollars water bottle like Coachella is not bad.

1446
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: That's like you know, they could be Yeah, a lot

1447
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 1: throwing the girls under the bus.

1448
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: We'll put in money for free waters that girls just

1449
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 2: want to Okay, unless you're already.

1450
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: Doing that, well, you know, we definitely have fill station.

1451
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: You hydrate the community.

1452
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: You have very concerned, doting, doting lesbian giving sunscreen and

1453
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: water because of that person who had that.

1454
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a fleet of them. They're all my exes.

1455
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah sixty. You can trust all of these people. I've

1456
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: had ten plusier relationships with each and every one of them.

1457
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: And it's and that's community.

1458
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, hello, all right, are you ready?

1459
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm ready?

1460
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so many his

1461
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: time starts now.

1462
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, lesbians not being in the audience,

1463
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: I think that they are. They are the true perfect

1464
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: receptors of art and culture. I think anytime there is

1465
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 2: not a lesbian in the I think we would not

1466
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: be where we are without lesbians in the crowd, I

1467
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: think without that beautiful sort of frequency in the communal space,

1468
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: in the collective consciousness that we experience in performances, we

1469
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: would be we would be nothing. We would be nothing.

1470
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: And I feel like as gay men, we kind of

1471
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: are we put our blinders on and we kind of

1472
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: just are performing to other gay men sometimes, and I

1473
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 2: think we need to let that go. And I need

1474
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: this is sort of self call in, a self check in,

1475
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 2: a self call out that.

1476
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: We need to sort of fifteen seconds.

1477
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: Really extricate ourselves from this sort of potentially toxic dynamic

1478
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: that I'm in as it relates to other gay men.

1479
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 2: I think this is five seconds something that I am

1480
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: really willing to intentionally explore more with you. Not that

1481
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: we haven't done it before, but I think, as we

1482
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: plant our own live shows, let's really talk about that,

1483
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: not in the pandering way.

1484
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: Well that's one minute. I have. First of all, the

1485
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: only contracts I ever go to are Muna, So I

1486
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about.

1487
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 2: They know that those Munas they see me every show

1488
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 2: and they hate to see you coming.

1489
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 3: Are you a fan? Of course they did? Girls just

1490
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 3: want to I love them we did. Oh guess what

1491
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: song we all did together?

1492
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 4: What I'm a bit.

1493
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 1: Show mother.

1494
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 3: We're the sole most soulful siblings on the planet, lesbians

1495
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 3: and game man. We need each other if we kind

1496
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: of complete each other.

1497
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: Do I think there's been less conflict though as of

1498
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: like I think in the Trump presidency, I don't think

1499
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: we fight as much. And I don't I don't think

1500
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: there's like I don't think we're rupping up against each other.

1501
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 3: No, it's a lot less. There's been some cross pollination,

1502
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 3: and I would I would attribute that to the younger generation.

1503
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 3: We got like Chapel Room bringing us together and shit,

1504
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 3: you know, and.

1505
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 1: You must love the chaps.

1506
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: I love her, yeah, because Elton, Because Elton was actually

1507
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: one of the people who was just like that girl

1508
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: is special and you're like, well fucking.

1509
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 3: Very early on, very very very early on. And then

1510
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 3: I got to she asked me to interview or I

1511
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 3: interviewed her, and it's not like the easiest thing in

1512
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 3: the world to interview Chapel round as you guys now, Yeah, yeah,

1513
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 3: and I loved it. It made me want to interview.

1514
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1515
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: She's just a true artist, you know, she's like, you know,

1516
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 3: she's one of those. She's not inaccessible, but she's she's

1517
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 3: like Seattle, She's gonna make you work for it.

1518
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: You should be the like singer songwriter producer that is

1519
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: interviewing other singer songwriter producers though, because you have bulary

1520
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: for every genre you have, Like I don't know, I

1521
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: feel like also like someone from Seattle should be the

1522
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: person doing that. I feel like you're the reach you

1523
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: have for conversations you could have with people. You should

1524
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: consider it.

1525
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 3: I will, I will, I will consider that because it's

1526
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 3: just such a compliment and I think I would really

1527
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 3: enjoy it. I'm so interested in them, yeah, you know,

1528
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 3: and interested is interesting, and I think that that would

1529
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 3: be a really fun thing to do some.

1530
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: Of my time, just to hear you talk to Chapel

1531
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: about Like, I don't know all of it. What I

1532
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: think what it would get at something is because you know,

1533
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 1: you're right, I feel like there is and people shouldn't

1534
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: be afraid to be interviewed, you know what I mean.

1535
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: Like it's got such a weird thing because now we're

1536
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 1: having the conversation about who should be doing these interviews

1537
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: or like or what journalism is now, Like should people

1538
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: be challenged, et cetera. I don't think it's about that.

1539
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: I just think it's about we should have people who

1540
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: are genuinely interested in their subjects. Yes, yeah, why this is.

1541
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 3: A great podcast for that reason, because you guys are

1542
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 3: just so you know, communicative, communally like the fact that

1543
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 3: you are, We're so interested in each other. I feel

1544
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 3: like this isn't going to end when we stop there.

1545
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not, we were. I'm just just the fact

1546
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: that someone that you're i know level, what's hang out

1547
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: with this?

1548
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: You don't remember this, maybe, but you hung out with

1549
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: me and my friend Josh Sharp at an after party

1550
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: ones and then we tried to coax you to come

1551
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 2: out to Gingers when they in park Slope, the lesbian

1552
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 2: bar and Parkers. Oh my god, everyone everyone would you

1553
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 2: You would be mobbed, and so it's it's it's for

1554
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: the best.

1555
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm into that. I've been going out to lesbian bars

1556
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 3: after hours recently. Really, yeah, I've been doing it.

1557
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy a good mobbing? I love it. I

1558
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: love people, you know, I mean, I like be alone. Yeah, yeah,

1559
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: come up, we'll talk about I don't care, it's fine.

1560
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,879
Speaker 3: No, Like, by the way, I don't understand like nobody

1561
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 3: ever picked up a guitar and learned how to sing,

1562
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 3: trying to sing like Freddie Mercury so that nobody would

1563
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 3: come up to them and go, I'm a fan. Of course,

1564
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: it's like the audacity, And what I do is because

1565
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 3: I want to draw people.

1566
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 2: Of course, to me, people have personal boundaries on an

1567
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: individual level. But I think I always say people like

1568
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 2: someone asked me, They're like, are you, like, like, how

1569
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: is it for you? I'm like, ninety nine nine percent

1570
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 2: of people are kind, so generous, have nothing but lovely

1571
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: things to say, And it's like, why would I You

1572
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 2: would never complain about that anyway.

1573
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 3: It's not it's not always fun that I have somebody

1574
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 3: put their phone in your face and say like, will

1575
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 3: you talk to my friend? We sing my friend Happy Birthday.

1576
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: With the phone, Like this is sort of like all right,

1577
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: So now I am And now I feel like it's

1578
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: it's it's become pokemon. And when it becomes Pokemon, I'm like.

1579
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: I'm out. Wait, I'm so, I'm so in a reverie.

1580
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: Have we gone?

1581
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: Have we done? Now?

1582
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: All right?

1583
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 3: Okay, but I can't decide between two things.

1584
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: Okay, do you want our help or do you want

1585
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: to go with your heart?

1586
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going with my heart.

1587
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this is Brandy Carliles. I don't think so honey.

1588
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: Time starts now.

1589
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 3: I don't think so honey to people that dodge high

1590
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 3: fives are too cool to do a high five, right

1591
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 3: do you? I mean, like, if you put the hand

1592
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: up for a high five, it's like so earnest and

1593
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 3: it's like kind and it means like an enthusiasm, like

1594
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 3: a connection is gonna happen. And if they like go

1595
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 3: to fist bump you or give you a hug or something,

1596
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 3: I call that like indier than thou. It's a very

1597
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 3: indie thing to do to not high five. And I

1598
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 3: hate that because I just think that, like when somebody

1599
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 3: is is kind of being rejected for being overly eager

1600
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: or uncool or whatever, it triggers me like the deepest

1601
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 3: part of myself. So if I ever put my hand

1602
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 3: up to you, let's just go for the high five.

1603
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 3: Even if like high fiving is not like in your thing,

1604
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 3: you got to you gotta high five and we got

1605
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 3: to connect, and you know the you.

1606
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 4: Know the rule.

1607
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 3: A high fiving right elbow makes your elbow. You look

1608
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 3: at the elbow and then you get.

1609
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 2: That smack every time.

1610
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 3: Earnestness, goodness, kindness.

1611
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I could cry that really, because

1612
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: high fives are so back. We've been a lot hi five.

1613
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 3: I have never seen, ever seen, I have never seen

1614
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 3: a gay person not do a high five.

1615
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 2: Obviously, if you are sensitive to you know, you know

1616
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 2: who I'm not talking to. Yes, I'm not talking to

1617
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 2: a compromise, okay, So don't make it that I'm gonna

1618
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: get We stay at home.

1619
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 1: We stayed home. Yeah, stayed home. It was home the

1620
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 1: whole time. I was watching Survivor gaining twenty five pounds.

1621
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1622
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 3: One time I was on a boat and this guy

1623
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 3: I know wouldn't do a high five. I was on

1624
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 3: a boat one time, the boat, my boat in the pandemic.

1625
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 3: It was like new boat. I was in the middle

1626
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 3: of the ocean. I couldn't see land, you guys, And

1627
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 3: and I saw kayak go by all alone, and in

1628
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 3: the kayak was a man with a mask on.

1629
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: Bless his heart, dear, I don't know Tom Hanks in March.

1630
01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 2: That's because I got to get my paddles.

1631
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 3: That's amazing, really, just paddling, you know, paddling. You can

1632
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 3: see what I believe?

1633
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 2: Right, Oh my god, Well damn, Okay, we didn't say

1634
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: this up top. Brandy's going on the Human Tour sitting

1635
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 2: near you. The new albums that we didn't talk about

1636
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: the new album. The new album is amazing, So it was.

1637
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 3: In the subtext of the whole time it was.

1638
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: And also, congrats on the Dock. I mean, I got

1639
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: nominated for a goddamn Academy Award and it's so spectacles,

1640
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 1: it really is.

1641
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 3: It's just like it's it's a part of me now.

1642
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 3: It will always be referred to in my poetry and

1643
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 3: the way that I interact with my within my marriage,

1644
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 3: you know, and also the way I interact with my

1645
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 3: with myself. For anybody that that doesn't know what you're

1646
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 3: talking about, that's come see me in the good light.

1647
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: It's on Apple, Yeah, and it's an incredible poet. Andrea Gibson, Yeah,

1648
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 3: passed away, left us way too early from cancer. But

1649
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: they did this amazing thing where they sort of documented

1650
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 3: that journey and it's not like an end of life documentary,

1651
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 3: you know, Andrea's actually still alive. At the end of

1652
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 3: the Dock Andrew's gone now. But there were so many

1653
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,480
Speaker 3: unintended things messages within that documentary.

1654
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 1: I think that weren't all the best docks.

1655
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1656
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 3: There was like complicated religious stuff, there was body image stuff.

1657
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 3: There was you know, complicated family dysfunction stuff. There are

1658
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 3: different different things surfacing like they would, you know, in

1659
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 3: an end of life scenario. But I think that the

1660
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: most impactful thing for me was that moment. There's this

1661
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 3: moment where Andrea and their wife Meg, they get that

1662
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 3: filter going on their phone where it shows you older.

1663
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 3: And Andrea's looking at themselves as an old person and

1664
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 3: recognizing that they'll ever know that person. That'll never happen,

1665
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 3: and is like laughing and crying at the same time

1666
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 3: because they're in love with that image. And then Meg,

1667
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 3: you know, their wife, comes on and they're getting to

1668
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 3: see their wife as an old woman. And it's so

1669
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 3: beautiful because it just shows you that aging is such

1670
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: a privilege and ordered to so few, and it changes

1671
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 3: my perspective on aging and my own face and just

1672
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 3: kind of like how I'm gonna enter into that chapter

1673
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 3: of life. So that documentary just it took me out, dude.

1674
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 1: Really beautiful, Yeah, really really beautiful and it's I that

1675
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: you that you are attached to that project is so

1676
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: it's just a no brainer because it's like spiritually, it's

1677
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: so many of the themes. It's connection as Catharsis, it's love,

1678
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: it's togetherness, it's just so many things and yeah, so

1679
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: many things beneath the surface, which is just in all

1680
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: of your albums. It's just I feel like you and

1681
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 1: Sarah Burrellis. It's like I could listen on nonsense. By

1682
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:58,839
Speaker 1: the way, where is your musical?

1683
01:17:59,400 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 2: Oh?

1684
01:17:59,720 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 4: Wow?

1685
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 3: All I was approached about doing one. That's kind of like,

1686
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's on hiatus or what's going

1687
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 3: to happen, but it seems like to do the music

1688
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 3: and be a part of a musical of fragg Green Tomatoes.

1689
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: Oh that is so fab how perfect that's like?

1690
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: That is I was thinking, I was like, what's the property,

1691
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: and then you just said it. Oh, and that makes

1692
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: me so happy. I hope it happens. Yeah.

1693
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 3: So if it's on hiatus, guys, let's get it going. Well,

1694
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 3: this is the place, the table permanently. Who let's start something.

1695
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 2: No, no, we're manifesting here. This is the thing, the

1696
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:32,879
Speaker 2: way of happening.

1697
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 1: Okay, we're very happy to hear it.

1698
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 3: How great is Sarah Burrows the best?

1699
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean, did you see her in Into the Woods?

1700
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: No, I didn't see.

1701
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: Just she's just so perfect for someheim because I was

1702
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: saying at the time she's such a thoughtful singer and

1703
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: that that his songs are so full of thoughts, that

1704
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: like she lands everything so cleanly. She's an instrument, walking

1705
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: instrument like you. And that's why I was just like,

1706
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, both your music.

1707
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 2: It's just that's how she's like an amazing like sitcom actor.

1708
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, god, I'm gonna send you guys this.

1709
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 3: Video of us doing she used to be mine. Oh god, girls,

1710
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 3: just wanna it was like, honestly one of the most

1711
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 3: blissful musical like moments of my life. Like I don't

1712
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 3: know what happened, something happened out there.

1713
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of those forever songs. Yeah.

1714
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 3: And you know she said that she was influenced by

1715
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 3: the story when she wrote it. I can kind of

1716
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 3: hear it and the melody now that I think about

1717
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 3: it a little bit, that's.

1718
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: That really reads. Yeah.

1719
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean, like just that just that I don't know

1720
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: if Yeah, I see it.

1721
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: Whatever, and the fact that every singer that does it,

1722
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: like because it's so beautifully written, it almost feels like

1723
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 1: every singer that does it is making it their own

1724
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: without even really trying. It's just like they connect to it.

1725
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 3: It's because the lyric.

1726
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: It's the lyrics.

1727
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 3: It's like suddenly that lyric becomes your tattoo and it

1728
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 3: means thing to your life, and so you're emphasizing different

1729
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: words in different moments and you make it your own.

1730
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: That's what that's.

1731
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 3: No great lyric can be emulated, no, not if it

1732
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 3: is able to really get get through to a person.

1733
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: It's like it's like defying gravity and that It's one

1734
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: of those Broadway songs where you could just watch a

1735
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,799
Speaker 1: YouTube if you're a gay guy, you watch a YouTube

1736
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: population of just everyone doing it, and suddenly you're seventeen

1737
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 1: minutes into a YouTube video watching Jordan's Sparks's rendition off

1738
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: she used to be Mine, and you're still crying like

1739
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: the same way Shanna Bean did it. It's like these

1740
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: names are such dog whistles as well, but loud.

1741
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: It's one of those the greatest YouTube like rabbit Hole

1742
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Speaker 3: that I can go down and I can do it

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01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 3: for hours. I'll get on a flight now that you

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01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 3: can like stream yea, and I will just be like, hm,

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01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 3: five hours of Selendeon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's it.

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01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 3: Five hours of Celendion, good moments, bad moments, just no

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01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 3: interviews anything, just all Celendion all day or Whitney. Those

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01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 3: two rabbit holes are like I could live in those

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01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 3: rabbit holes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous rabbit holes. We're going to Paris to

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Speaker 2: see her.

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01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: We definitely are at this residency.

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01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not going to miss wins because I'm not

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01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 3: saying I won't join.

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01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: You if you have.

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01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: It's like the Mafia.

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01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 2: You're doing your red Rock show in September and then

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01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 2: we're going to meet you in Paris or we'll pick

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01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: you up or something.

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01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: Oh, you'd be perfect, so dead serious when I say

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01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: that this has to happen, I would love.

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01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: That's love.

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01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 1: Let's let's plan for it. If I could go to

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01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: Sleem with you guys, don't play. It was like the

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01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: great regret of our life because we were supposed to

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01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: go see her and then we were working or something

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01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: and being like, oh, well, you know, Selene will always

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01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 1: perform in Vegas dumbest sentence ever. And then the pandemic

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01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: happened and we lost our opportunity, but we had tickets.

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01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: And as someone who grew up in Montreal, like, this

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: is my this is this is what my life is

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 2: led up to. I'm telling you it actually has.

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Speaker 3: Have you met her?

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01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: No?

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01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you think she would come on?

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01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 3: I bet you would come on.

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01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: I bet you would come on, and she would be

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01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: so outrageous. She's now said for like probably over a year,

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01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: right like like now, because we've gotten so many bucket lists,

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01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: like Mariah Carey came.

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01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 4: I know, I loved that one.

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01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 3: I mean I could go down to Mariah Carey rabbit hole.

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01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 3: I met her once. And I know you guys have

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01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 3: met her because you had this amazing, amazing pod and

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01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 3: I listened to it actually just yesterday, but he and

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01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 3: I saw the clips on Instagram. But when I met her,

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01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 3: it was at the Clive Davis party.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 3: And I was like summoned to her yet someone to

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01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 3: get me.

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01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she knows what's real.

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01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 2: She's not coming to you. Yeah, Oh my god.

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01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 3: I've written I've written Mariah Carey two letters. I wrote

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01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 3: me me twice. You did yes when like once when

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01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: I was a young girl, like twenty two, twenty three,

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01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 3: and then once again when by the way I forgive

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01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 3: you came out. Oh my god, people don't understand there's

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01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 3: cross over here.

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01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: I'm massive Maria Carey. Yes, seem of course you are.

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01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 3: So I get like summoned to Mariah Carey, and of

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01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 3: course I'm I walk over there in my suit, you know,

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01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: with like my haircut, and she's like sitting in her

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01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 3: chair and she didn't stand up.

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01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: She just goes.

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01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 3: And looked up at me, and I'm like, cool, I'll

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01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 3: get down my knees from Riah Carey like any day,

1808
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 3: and she goes, my bra strap is really cutting into

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01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 3: my shoulder. She's like, can you get it for me?

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01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 3: And so I got to like maneuver Mariah Carey's bra

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01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 3: strap and like make her more comfortable. And then I

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01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 3: got down on my knees to talk to Mariah Carey.

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01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 3: And as soon as I did that and she asked

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01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 3: me to move for brastrap, I was like, I knew

1815
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 3: you were a real Mimi, and she goes, thank you.

1816
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 3: So she summoned me to fix her brodstrap and thank

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01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 3: her for summoning me, and then we got the most

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01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,919
Speaker 3: iconic photo, and I mean that was our whole interaction.

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01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 2: She never stops being icon iconic, and she doesn't even

1820
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 2: try and talk about no great lyric can be emulated.

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01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 2: She's full of them.

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01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this isn't the year. This is what

1823
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: I should have done. I don't think so, Honey on preemptively,

1824
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: if they snub her at the Rock and Roll Hall

1825
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: of Fame this year, I'm burning it down. I'm burning

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01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: it down.

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01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 3: You're right in doctor, you should be the one to indoctor.

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01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: She posted a story I say, hello, tag the Rock

1829
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame. I said, this is the year.

1830
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 1: This is the year.

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01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: She even did alternative music.

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01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: Oh. On this podcast, we said to her, brought up

1834
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: the grunge album. Release the Grunge album, and she said,

1835
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: I know, right, I should do that. I don't know

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01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: if she forgot, and then she was like, what label

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01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: do I really said on I'm like, the one of

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01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: your choosing.

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01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 3: Let's go full subpop.

1840
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: Oh that would be amazing. Come on, that'd be so good.

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01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 3: Come to Seattle, do it at the show Box.

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01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 4: Label.

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01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: She was like, maybe, I was like, don't threaten us

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01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 1: with the time of our life.

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01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, she just doesn't know how much cross whatever. She

1846
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 3: hasn't everything right.

1847
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: This has been a joy and a half for me.

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01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 3: It's been a joy and a half for me. I

1849
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 3: wanted to do this for such a long time.

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01:24:58,320 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 4: I'm happy.

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01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm such a fan. Well, we just were were there

1852
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: was just beyond to hear that. And like, you guys

1853
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: have met several times, but we met briefly at S

1854
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: and L fifty and I was floating after the interaction

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01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: because you're just so good. So thanks for comments.

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01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 3: You guys are so good. Well, I guess I'll see

1857
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 3: you when we go see Celine together, I guess.

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01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: And speaking of her, we end every episode of the song.

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01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: I really set us up for that one. Yeah, which

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01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 1: one do we beck? You love my strength? When that

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01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: I was weak, Diane were my Swena couldn't speak? Should

1862
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: have won for this well man, when I couldn't see,

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01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: so the best was lit me. I couldn't speak.

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01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 4: You gave me everything I am because you love me.

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01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: Remember that.

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01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 4: Yes.

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01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and bowen Yang executive

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01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: produced by Anna Hasbier and produced by Becka.

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01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: Ramos, Edited and mixed by Duck Babe, and our music

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