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Speaker 1: Be around the NFL Podcast. No, you're gonna like it

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Speaker 1: in their city, Our city, our adopted city of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: will be the host of the Westling Bowl. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the town the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the studio, the stage, really Stage five here

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Speaker 1: at NFL Network, filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Championship Sunday is in the books. And yes, somehow, some way,

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Speaker 1: the football gods, whoever is out there, deemed it necessary

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Speaker 1: that this year would be the one where the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals come out of nowhere in advance to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl to face none other than the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 1: The Bangles, Mark Chris Westling's boyhood team, the man that

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Speaker 1: he had such a difficult relationship with, ending with a

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Speaker 1: and we're wondering how west would feel. And then Lakisha,

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Speaker 1: his loyal wife, that amazing woman who was a die

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Speaker 1: hard Rams fan. Those two teams are playing for the

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Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy two weeks from tonight. I cannot think of

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Speaker 1: anything that has happened during our podcast that comes anywhere

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Speaker 1: close to these events. I've been watching football since. This

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Speaker 1: is the most interesting development I can remember in my

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Speaker 1: entire life. I'm a Browns fan, who is you know?

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Speaker 1: And and a lot of people in Cleveland Bengals fans

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be rooting for the Browns. Forget all that this

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Speaker 1: is from somewhere completely different, um, a totally different realm.

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Speaker 1: And just watching Lakisha's um reactions today on Twitter, on

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Speaker 1: social media, and just to have it capped with the

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Speaker 1: the most improbable sporting conclusions to UH, to pre Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: any and any sport. I'm dumbfounded. I'm still processing the

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Speaker 1: ring to be clear. It's like it's the Lakisha Wesseling

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You know, the Westling Brothers. They they got

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, They got no ties for the Rams. Lakisha

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Speaker 1: travels with the Rams, diehard St. Louis Rams fans moves

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Speaker 1: where we watched the Bengals pull that game off and

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Speaker 1: it's just like sports, Yes, sports are they're they're stupid

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Speaker 1: Wes's um talk where he would be like, you have

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Speaker 1: to you have to resign yourself about the what the

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Speaker 1: ultimate meaninglessness is of like watching sports and watching which

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Speaker 1: way an oblong ball bounces, and yet like it creates

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Speaker 1: moments like that, Like that was an overwhelming moment. And

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Speaker 1: it almost took a little while during that NFC Championship

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Speaker 1: you're just feeling a lot. You're feeling a lot watching

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Speaker 1: that thing go through and and it's it's great to

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Speaker 1: see Keisha, especially living that moment. Oh, it's so great.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, like we you know, knew West so so well.

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Speaker 1: So when everyone is celebrating the fact that Cincinnati's on

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Speaker 1: this improbable run, um, you wonder how West belt. But

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Speaker 1: the game, but I do since we're talking this now,

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Speaker 1: like she brought out the sage I feel like she

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Speaker 1: saged the Bengals. You know, you talk about speaking something

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Speaker 1: but she saged this into existion. She brought out the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Right. Tony really had this had this tweet

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Speaker 1: it just you know, you can't. You can't make it up.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the stuff of movies. And we get one

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Speaker 1: through um. Both games will start with what happened at

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Speaker 1: Let's head to Arrowhead Field and break down the a

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Speaker 1: f C Championship game snapped. The Mahomes rolls the shoulder,

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Speaker 1: shotguns snap to Burrow, throws it into the end zone

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Speaker 1: Avin mc years four years ago. He was a senior

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Speaker 1: kick his up good Coffin knows it is no fluke.

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Speaker 1: It is a fact. The Cincinnati Bengals are headed to

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty six. Oh, Ricky, you went supersized on

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Speaker 1: best Bungo game ever? Who day. Evan McPherson fearless kicked

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Speaker 1: the thirty one yard field goal two left it overtime

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Speaker 1: after the Cincinnati Bengals wiped up the biggest deaf sit

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Speaker 1: Chiefs home in stunning, stunning fashion and to the point

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Speaker 1: that I was making just minutes ago, Greg, this game

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Speaker 1: the final minute of the half, and then Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: It's like that. It's just hard to believe that they

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill vanished in the second half, and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: after week that if you let them back in because

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Speaker 1: This just became their game and it's just one of

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Speaker 1: the more peculiar things we've seen because the Chiefs have

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Speaker 1: been on such a hot role obviously, but it harks

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Speaker 1: back to the quizzical performance on their offense earlier on

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Speaker 1: in the year. We kind of got both Chiefs teams today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if you look at the splits of going back

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Speaker 1: offense disappeared in that game as well, But this was different,

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Speaker 1: and I think, well, that's one of the great things

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Speaker 1: this was a Higgins day, and that catching overtime was

430
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: very difficult and really was the key play in the

431
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: in that winning drive before Mixing got a couple of

432
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: big runs. Where do you go from here? If you're

433
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, that's something that's a tough loss. That is

434
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: that's one that will stick to the ribs. Just like

435
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: we talked about the Packers loss last week. Um, they

436
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: now you know, they had that game in their back

437
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: pocket one three and that's that's unbelievable. The tweets and

438
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: the like. Just the feeling of that game, Like, don't

439
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: you think the Chiefs felt like they were going to

440
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that they there wasn't I think they

441
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: think everybody felt out right right, It just seemed like, Okay,

442
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: this is this was one what we talked about it

443
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: on the Network show, like this felt like a close game.

444
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: The Bengals could steal it potentially, but also there was

445
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: a there was a possibility this was like game just

446
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: because the way Kansas City looked they could run the

447
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: Bengals out of that building and and it didn't work

448
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: out that way obviously. Um, any other thoughts about the

449
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: comeback or anything. The one thing that happened early to

450
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: Kansas City and they got into that, you know, the

451
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: time issue at the end of the first half was

452
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: when Andy Reid challenge to play he got they got

453
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: the challenge, but he took a time out beforehand, and

454
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: its stripped them of an early time out that ended

455
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: up costing them. I mean, you know, it's like Andy

456
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: Reid used to get tagged with this time management thing

457
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: all the time. He's escaped a lot of that because

458
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: he has one of the best quarterbacks we've ever watched.

459
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: But to your point about the where we thought the

460
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs would be at this point compared to where they were,

461
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: it reminds me a lot of the two thousand and

462
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: ten Packers, where you have Aaron Rodgers the sky's limit.

463
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: They never get back there to win and they never

464
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: win another title. And it just shows you how elusive

465
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: it is. Because now Kansas City goes into an offseason

466
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 1: having swallowed an evil pill. Well, there's some scarring on

467
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: this team. Now you had the Super Bowl last year

468
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: where Mahomes got abused and physically wrecked, and then you

469
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: have this game which is something to to collapse, historic collapse,

470
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: biggest um blown lead ever in the Championship Sunday. There

471
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: is just this level of invincibility that Mahomes had in

472
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: those initial seasons that now they don't quite feel that way.

473
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: Now a team's gone again into Arrowhead in the a

474
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: f C title game, and and now you have Burrow

475
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: and the Bengals saying, listen, this is not your conference anymore.

476
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: This is this is our time. And it snuck up

477
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: on everybody because look where where everyone was picking Cincinnati

478
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: before the season. Look where they were at the beginning

479
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: of the season on my power rankings, Like this was

480
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: a team that was not ready or supposed to be

481
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: making this jump, and yet they had Look where they

482
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: were when I, you know, like you know, I backed

483
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: off this little bit pronounced that they were going to

484
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: take over the conference back in like November. It's like,

485
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, I would. I would to see the nfl

486
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: dot Com mid season predictions, and no one at the

487
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: entire NFL dot Com media group, out of thirty people

488
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: had the Bengals in the playoffs at mid season. Not

489
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: one person had them even as a wild card team then,

490
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: which it actually is disrespect. They probably were five and

491
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: four that I think it was coming off their two

492
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: games losing, so it's a weird timing um, but not

493
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: one person even had them in the playoffs at that

494
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: point that the Mahomes Stark speak on it, yeah, oh yeah,

495
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: you didn't didnes. What's what's happening? You didn't even have

496
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: him in the playoffs? Well? No, I mean I would

497
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: say I my my directive would be, there's probably fifty

498
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: five people that make those predictions fire, all of them

499
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: start over with an entirely new collection of individuals. You

500
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: do feel for for Andy Reid who has man he

501
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: has taken some tough losses over the years, especially in

502
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: the conference championship weekend. And look, not everything is about

503
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but I do think these sort of games

504
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: do remind you how just brewed, how impossible it is

505
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: for what they accomplished, Like how tough that will be

506
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: to repeat, even when you have Patrick Mahomes because they

507
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: have hosted four straight a FC championships, Like that is

508
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: so Patriots, Like that's like this other level that even

509
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: ahead of where the Packers are at, of like can

510
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: you get the one or two seed every year? Like

511
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: that's like the highest almost level you could reach, and

512
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are even above that, but even on another

513
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: level above that, you have to actually like finish each

514
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: one of these games out and get through the gauntlet

515
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: that it's like, man, that's tough to do year after

516
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: year twenty one to three, with two eighteen left in

517
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: the second quarter in the Bengals got the ball and

518
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned how they weren't aggressive all day, and that

519
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: was driving me crazy. They weren't throwing on first down,

520
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: they were running a ton. They they had a play

521
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: action pass on the first play of that drive for

522
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: a big gainer up the field. I can't remember who

523
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: was too either boyd or a tight end got that

524
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: drive going and ended up scoring later. And then they

525
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: did settle in and get a little more aggressive. But

526
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: the thing that to me was just in the comeback

527
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: most important about Burrow was he wasn't going down like

528
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: he only got sacked one time in this game. And

529
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: his legs and he said this after the game in

530
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: an interview with Ross Tucker. Actually, I was listening to

531
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: on the way in that that some people, you know,

532
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: dismissed my legs, like they don't think I can run,

533
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: And they ended up spying me a little bit towards

534
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: the end of that game. And that really was a

535
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: difference in some of these field goal drives, especially the

536
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: play I mean, this is when you start to feel

537
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: like the football gods are operating on a different level

538
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: here when he evaded Chris Jones twice on that one

539
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: play that I mean, they showed Chris Jones up close

540
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: after and you could just see he knew that that

541
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: thing had slipped away. Can I read one absurd tweet

542
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: that came out of Kansas City after this? Um k NBC,

543
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's a television station. This was their tweet

544
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: after the Chiefs melted um in all caps, against all odds, Colin,

545
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: we were never supposed to be here, We were never

546
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: meant to make it this far, but against all odds

547
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: we did. What a season. Thank you for the incredible ride.

548
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: We will always be Chief's Kingdom. Wait a minute, excuse me,

549
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: but every single sentient human being above Toddler level assumed

550
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: that they would be here to look at it this way.

551
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: And it's a news organization saying that it's just utterly bizarre.

552
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 1: That tweet makes more sense if you imagine an idiot

553
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: wrote it. Well, that's that's that's not who I insitions

554
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: got into this thing of like everyone discounted us and

555
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: everyone gave up on us, and like why why is

556
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: that the thing that that gets you going? And like

557
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: fires you because that's true, some people did, but like

558
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: not many. I when I went back to look at

559
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: that mid season think, for instance, everyone still had them

560
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: winning the division and had many more people than not

561
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: had them going to the Super We just simply saying

562
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: we expect them to be nearly perfect, and they played

563
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: a nearly perfect first half up until he h it was.

564
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: It was a ludicrous sweep and I'm glad it went viral. Boys,

565
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: would you like to step behind the velvet ropes because

566
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: I think there's one other figure we need to discuss

567
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: in the non Justin Tucker category. I can't remember ever

568
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: seeing a kicker or more locked in than the rookie

569
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: fifth rounder Evan McPherson. He went four for four again today.

570
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: He went four for four. Last week, he went four

571
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: for four the week before that. He is twelve for

572
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: twelve in the play offs. Every week has had a

573
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: fifty yard or massive fifty yard bomb in this game

574
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: as well, and that is he is a legitimate Again,

575
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: don't sleep on this weapon two weeks from Sunday across

576
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: the street, because he is not that I ever get

577
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: behind Jay Pheeley's analysis on CBS Delcast, but he made

578
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: a point that carries across anything else. He has no

579
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: battle scars on him. He doesn't know anything but success,

580
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: and you could tell that's just blowing through him. He's

581
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: been unbelievable for that. I was like, he kicked the

582
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: fifty two it was a fifty two yard or to

583
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: take the lead in the fourth, and I had no

584
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: no worry at all, forget the thirty one yard or

585
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: to win it, like of course that one's going in

586
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: no concern at all. It changes how they play offense,

587
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: because that was part of the comeback, was picking up

588
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: three points in a couple in a handful of spots.

589
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: They only had one touchdown actually during the during the

590
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: second half, and that's why the Borough Brady thing. And

591
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: I did feel like earlier this week they're gonna win

592
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: this game somehow. I don't know how they're gonna win

593
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: this game. And in the Bury Burrow Brady thing there

594
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: it's maybe forced, but there are little things that I

595
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: think winning plays, not just like the running and stuff like,

596
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 1: but avoiding the sacks and making the smart decisions at

597
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: the smart moments, and like that's where the luck is.

598
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: That's well, if you want to call it luck, that's

599
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: where the like I just you. You look at you

600
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: look into the face, into the visage, and like it's

601
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: like he's so he's so unflappable. I mean it's like

602
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: you're the same way that Tony Romo has had run

603
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: out of um verbal concepts to describe mahomes and it's

604
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff he does. You're gonna get

605
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: there with Burrow. I mean, they have Burrow and the

606
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: new Justin Tucker. Who would have you would have bet

607
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: houses in the opposite direction that the entire division would

608
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: be looking up at the Bengals forever and that's where

609
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: they are, right. Yeah, I do have a couple of

610
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: I know you do. I know you do, Greg. But

611
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: this this Tony Romo telecast coming off last week where

612
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: I sang his praises and I thought he had an

613
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: excellent Bills Chiefs game. He was not at his best

614
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: in this game and he had his biggest flub to

615
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: me since he's been doing uh television. Um when it

616
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: was the last possession of regulation and the Chiefs are

617
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: knocking on the door. It's first and goal from the nine,

618
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: and he begins to tell the audience, this is our conduit,

619
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: this is our expert, our former player he's telling the audience,

620
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: audience should Cincinnati, even though they have a three point lead,

621
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: let the Chiefs score a touchdown so they will have

622
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: enough time to get the ball back. It's like, bro,

623
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: this game, you're winning this game. You don't want to

624
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: give up a touchdown to go behind, so you have

625
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: forty seven seconds. That was I couldn't believe he was

626
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: saying that. It's almost like he didn't know the score.

627
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: That was an insane thing for Romo to say. In

628
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: a normal game, you know, you knew where he was going,

629
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: like if it was U the first Bengals Chiefs game

630
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: and it was just all often back and forth. But

631
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: that's even then. You can't think that way because there's

632
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: there's Malcolm Butler. There's like too many times of doing

633
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: exactly what the Bengals did. And then he was there

634
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: was a red challenge flag or and he was thinking

635
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: that they should challenge an illegal procedure like lining up

636
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: the wrong way, which you can't challenge either. Well he

637
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: got he got caught not knowing the nuance on that one,

638
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: Like you you can't challenge it was a bad game.

639
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: He was thinking like the worst possible scenario was giving

640
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: up a touchdown with twenty seconds left or whatever it

641
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: was gonna be, which which would have been? But you know,

642
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: the best possible scenario is Sam Harvard forces a fumble

643
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: on Patrick Mahomes, which is exactly what happened, and you

644
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: gotta give your guy. Yeah, you can't even you can't

645
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: even float that as a theory. When Cincinnati has like

646
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: seven consecutive stops on defense basically before that drive, you

647
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: can't be like, give up the touchdown to fall behind

648
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: in the a f C title game in the last

649
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: forty one seconds, right, they were owned. I mean the

650
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: the drives were sixteen yards, seventeen yards, seven yards negative,

651
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: two yards of four yards and then they had the

652
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: three down over stunning. It is crazy. Um. I do

653
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: just want to remind you that despite it looking dry

654
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: on camera today, the rain was out in Cincinnati. We're

655
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: out a day in two heater. The rainmaker forget plus seven.

656
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: I should have gone money line and locked it up

657
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: like Mark Sessler. But it all works out anyways. They

658
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: want it, they want it. Does it get you a

659
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: little uncomfortable? Mark? When Greg gets this giddy sometimes like energy,

660
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: It's Gregg's materialism that gets on my radar. Just justice.

661
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: By the way, the rainmakers coming back out, Grab that

662
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: early Bengals plus four line for the Super Bowl because

663
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: we're riving the Bengals to the end, Are you kidding?

664
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: Make that line might change and and letty, I have

665
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: an announcement to make. I'm gonna call my own press conference. Um,

666
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: I am in the midst of a collapse in the

667
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: locks competition. Listen, I have no I have no regrets

668
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: about my strategy here in the playoffs. The strategy was

669
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: get behind the best quarterbacks and the superior teams. And

670
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: I thought that I was doing that, and yet Aaron

671
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Packers let me down, and then Patrick

672
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: Mahomes in the Chiefs let me down. And I will

673
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: tell you this, Mark, and this is a show of

674
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: respect to not just you, but the game. We will

675
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: not have a tie. We will not have a tie.

676
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: And I think, given the nature of my picks here,

677
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: I'm going to seed you know the prediction. I want

678
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: you to pick the team you want to win the

679
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or think they will. I will go the

680
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: other way and we will find out who wins the title.

681
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna collapse, I want to collapse into a tie.

682
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: I want either somehow survive like the Rams did last

683
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: weekend in Tampa or going down in infamy. And I

684
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: think it's a great sign. And I think I know

685
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: who Mark Sessler's picking, and maybe, just for Luck's sake,

686
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: we should keep it that way because you've gone against

687
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals Dan all three weeks here, so just for

688
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: the luck of it, well, I have wherever remark goes,

689
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: I have to go there, admirable, thank you that I'm

690
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: like waiting for the kicker, like I'm waiting for him

691
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: to be like psych Well, I think the kicker was

692
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: that that entire speech was to set up Dan as

693
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: a highly noble figure. I mean, I will I'm only

694
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: in this position because I had a four game skid

695
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: prior to your skids. So it's forced us crazy. Now

696
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: you want to fully root for the Bengals in the

697
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl, you know, well, but Greg like that that

698
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: we're saving that for later in the week. That's how

699
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: you built drama. You built drama degree. But a lot

700
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: of people are coming at you Dan also, and it's like, listen,

701
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: we we've been doing this thing for years and it's

702
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: like we're not like at each other's throats over this,

703
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: like it's it's going to go down in proper fashion.

704
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: We tied one other five weeks ago one Sunday show.

705
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: There was one right there. I had been annoyed, but

706
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: I was annoyed with my own epic failure. I'm feeling

707
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: pretty good one Sunday night. Well there's I mean, there's

708
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: a lot to be said to take this thing. But listen,

709
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: the Packers. They got me mad lad because that was

710
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: a gag job. The Cincinnati Bengals coming back an arrowhead.

711
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I could live with that. I'll take that out. And

712
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: by the way, my other pick for this this weekend

713
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: was the Niners. So again, it doesn't matter right now.

714
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: And I'm like when I'm on a cold streak as

715
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: you were, uh in December and to that point, like

716
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: I like, I wrote down something to myself that I

717
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: stopped asking for anything from the NFL and it started

718
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: to give me a lot of great things. And like

719
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: that's to me. I think something is happening here that

720
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: we have no control over. I mean, we have no

721
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: control over anything, but I'm along for the ride. That's

722
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: why I'm I've decided I've tried to keep in control

723
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: and playing is from ahead is the favorite to try

724
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: to stay in control. I'm throwing my hands up and

725
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: I said, do what you must, shove me, control, control

726
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: and then me shape me. If you did, you must.

727
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: If you didn't, um, you know, lose this lock. If

728
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals hadn't come from behind, though, we would not

729
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: have gotten Chris Rose on NFL Network with a pretty

730
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: cool moment tonight. They're picking it out dirt down. It

731
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: was there. This was less awesome Chris Rose. We got

732
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: to know Chris Uh this season on Sunday nights watching

733
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football with him in the Big Theater. He's

734
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: a really good guy and Uh and he's a brown

735
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: span And so I think you're like everyone is just

736
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: no matter who you are, who you were, who the

737
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Bengals were to you in the past, your heart needs

738
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: to not even exist. There must be something dark and

739
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: um lost inside of you if you can't kind of

740
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: feel this Bengals team. And I do think it's one

741
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: of those Super Bowls. And the Rams are cool too,

742
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: but we're like people are gonna be like, We'm pretty

743
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: sure who were into in this game? Here? Hearing that

744
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: was there was something there's something about hearing that I

745
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: was kind of like te and West at London that

746
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: like hit me more than even anything watching at at

747
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: Keisha's and everything. Something about hearing like on NFL Network

748
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: him saying like this one's for West. It's just like

749
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: it's bigger than just just West and the podcast and

750
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals. It's awesome and all the messages from everyone

751
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: today has been awesome, very cool. Yes, and uh yeah,

752
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: so many people feel the same way we do. That

753
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: just something strange as in the air and as difficult

754
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: as this is um been without West, this has been

755
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: a nice little thing that we we've been able to

756
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: enjoy together. All right, Let's take a break and talk

757
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: about the game that produced the NFC champion and yes,

758
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals opponent in Super Bowl fifty six. Yeah,

759
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: the Bengals called the Super Bowl. Let's take a break. Second.

760
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: At thirteen forty, Niners go empty. Garoppolo looks right, throws

761
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: debox on the screen block from jettings break cit Taco

762
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: debo Sam your twenty fifteen ten five debo diving for

763
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: the ends right up there, touchdown, Send friend Cisco to

764
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: this out along the shockun I guess the four man

765
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: ross clean platform head west side, Cooper Cup in the

766
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: end zone. He's a cheat code. Touchdown, Cooper Cup, touchdown, away,

767
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: hold down. The kick is on the way and it

768
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: is breakdown in the middle. Came from thirty for a

769
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen lead, was six remains, sat back to Garoppolo,

770
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: pocket frumbling, he spins out. He's hit, He's wrapped up.

771
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: He flipped it forward. It's deep. Hits intercepted, It's intercepted.

772
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: It's intercepted. Eric Donald's got fresh ed on Garoffolo and

773
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: Travin Howard twitches the NFC Championship game. Hey how about that?

774
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: My buddy, my picnic pal J B Long with the

775
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: call of his life. KSPN also heard Greg Pappa, k

776
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: n b r up and the Bay Area and the

777
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams down seventeen seven and the fourth quarter,

778
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: the place going nuts, everybody in red. It felt like,

779
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: and it seemed like once again that the Los Angeles

780
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: Rams and their coach Sean McVeigh, we're going to get

781
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: done in by Kyle Shanahan and those Niners would beat

782
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: him six times in a row and now had a

783
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: double digit fourth quarter lead, and yet the Rams get

784
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: a big touchdown from Cooper cup who's been doing it

785
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: all year, one of the greatest wide receiver seasons of

786
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: all time. Then they get the big stop on defense.

787
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: They are able to take control of the game, take

788
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: the lead, and close it out with Yes, Aaron Donald

789
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: and friends getting it done. Twenty seventeen, the final. The

790
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: Rams are back in the Super Bowl for the second

791
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: time and what is it three years with McVeigh four

792
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: for for the second time in four years, and this

793
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: one Mark had to be so sweet, and you could

794
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: tell on Sean Nikpai's face to not only knock off

795
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan not only to get back to the Super Bowl,

796
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: but all those demons Jordan Rodrigue talked about with us

797
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: from the Athletic last week, all those demons exercise in

798
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: a big spot at SOFI Stadium. Yeah, and it wipes

799
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: away everything the Niners did to them before. It's like

800
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: this was the one that mattered. It was mattered five

801
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: times more than those six losses. And you could see

802
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: the look on Sean mcveigh's face. I mean, this was pressure.

803
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: This was pressure on the entire team, and they overcame

804
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: a lot. They overcame, you know, the Matthew Stafford mistake.

805
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: They overcame the fact that I thought the defensive line,

806
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: the strength of the team did very little for much

807
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: of this game. But where was von Miller for so

808
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: much of it? That Aaron Donald's name was called at

809
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: the most optimal time at the end to cause that interception.

810
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot to get into with this game, too.

811
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: But the drive that I that I felt maybe told

812
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: me the Niners are slipping away because we know that

813
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy g he is a journey I mean, and you

814
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: you have to sign up for Yeah, I think I

815
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: agree with you. Well yeah, but it's just like I

816
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: feel like it's weeks in a row where you're watching

817
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: and throw passes that were um, you know, I want

818
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: to call him but desperate, um bordering on high risk.

819
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: And he got away with a lot of that stuff

820
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: and today he did not at the end. And somebody

821
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: and we've been we had been calling for it for

822
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: weeks that at some point it's gonna haunt him in

823
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: a way that they're not going to be able to

824
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: unhaunt themselves, and it happened today. The drive though for

825
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: me seventeen seventeen, there's six plus left total melt job

826
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: by Jimmy g in the offense. They took twenty three

827
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: seconds off the clock when it would have been the

828
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: patented time for Shanahan to get the ground game going,

829
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: just to not even give Matthew Stafford in the Rams

830
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: a chance back in and they did. I mean, they

831
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: just they let this game away in the Rams. You know,

832
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: you get a performance by Odell Beckham. It's like everything

833
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: and you know, at this point this is not news,

834
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: but all these moves they made. It was a year

835
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: ago today that the Stafford trade was announced. To have

836
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: known back then, a lot of people doubted that deal,

837
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: that the Rams mortgage their future, that a year later

838
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: they'd be here. It's like, and we all we had

839
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: I certainly had fun with it when they had the

840
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: tweet we're all in. After the moves that they made,

841
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: and then they were a little they were a little bit,

842
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, on and off for a stretch there during

843
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: the regular season, and it looked like, man, are they

844
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: not only gonna never have any premium draft picks, but

845
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna go all in and they're gonna fall short.

846
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: And yet here they are a nut like the Bengals,

847
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: another four seed greg that got hot found themselves all

848
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: of a sudden hosting the NFC Championship game and then

849
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: executing in a way that San Francisco had executed against

850
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: them and all those prior losses. Yeah, maybe they're better

851
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: off playing from behind. I mean, sent seven entering the

852
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and you go touchdown field goal, field goal,

853
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: and your defensive line in Aaron Donald and Von Miller

854
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: in that group that had been quiet throughout the game,

855
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: peasted three straight drives. So it's like, you don't need

856
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: to we don't need to hear anything about this team's toughness.

857
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't think toughness was ever you know, the right

858
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: word for it, because they they also have one, you know,

859
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: been in some difficult spots this year in in one

860
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: tight games, not always again to the top competition. But

861
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: it was seventeen seven Stafford gets the ball back and

862
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: it was just like bet and it was they went

863
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: right down the field and it it was placed to Odell.

864
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: It was it was third and six is to two. Cup.

865
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: Really the whole game, I thought the difference was the quarterbacks.

866
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: And I know Stafford until the end, his numbers weren't

867
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: too flashy. And people are going to bring up that

868
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: to Quiskey tart drop interception, and we can talk about that,

869
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: but it's like Stafford played great in this game, and yeah,

870
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: he'll give the other team a couple of chances and

871
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: he'll make a couple of mistakes. But the reason they

872
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: put up twenty in this game was all Stafford. Again.

873
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: They weren't really running the ball again, they didn't really

874
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 1: protect Most of his completions were excellent throws, like most

875
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: of their points came from throws into tight windows. The

876
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: touchdown the cup was awesome. The out route to cup earlier,

877
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: that drive was was amazing. He had another one to Odell.

878
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: It's just like Jimmy g is not making those throws,

879
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: Jared Goffs not making those throws. Maybe there's seven or

880
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: eight guys in the NFL that are making those throws,

881
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford is one of them. And I know

882
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: it's not like a great home crowd here. It was

883
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: definitely split. But that drive you mentioned where the forty

884
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: Niners started turtling up like that was after the Rams

885
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: just scored ten straight points and and the Rams fans

886
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: were loud when when the forty Niners were on offense,

887
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: and it was vice versa, and it felt like that

888
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: was making an impact. And the forty niners were feeling

889
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: at that point, and certainly Aaron Donald was feeling that

890
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: the one thing, I mean, had they lost the RAMS,

891
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: there would be it would be a really really rough

892
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: couple of weeks for them, because I also found them

893
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: to be and they got to clean this up, disorganized,

894
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: pre snapped. These time outs they call when you know

895
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: there when you're gonna trying to avoid like a delay

896
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: of games scenario. It's just like, this should not be

897
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: happening to this RAMS team under Sean McVeigh. They took

898
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: a terrible challenge at one point that I don't know

899
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: who's in Sean mcveigh's here. It went south, but it's like,

900
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: how are those dec They had no timeouts for the

901
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: last six fifty on the clock, which Terry Bradshaw mentioned

902
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: when Terry Bradshaw was asking the question. First, the first

903
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: thing he said to McVeigh was about the time outs

904
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: and he got the facts wrong. He said, you only

905
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: had one time out with seven minutes to go. No,

906
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: it's even worse than that. They had no timeouts with

907
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: seven minutes to go, And I thought that when he

908
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: burned his final time out UM on a challenge of

909
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: a fumble UM on a play it was fourth down

910
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: and they had their punt team on the field San Francisco.

911
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: He challenges it trying to get the ball back in midfield.

912
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: It was a terrible challenge, Like Mark saying, desperate was

913
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: he just desperately felt desperation, especially when you realize the

914
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: payoff is because you're getting the ball back anyway. Like

915
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's like thirty or forty yards fuel difference maybe,

916
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: but the the opportunity cost here is like or you

917
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: lose the challenge and you have no time outs and

918
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: you end up watching Jimmy g kneeling on the football

919
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: for two minutes to end the game, Like it was

920
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: that much. Now the thing that I'll i'll I'll think

921
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: about two things. Uh, if I'm a nine fan and

922
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm dying, And by the way, we could talk about

923
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: how the Rams did an I should have the fans

924
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: filling up building. We're across the street in the newsroom.

925
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: After the game was over, I went to the glass

926
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: and looked out and it was all forty Niners fans

927
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: just filing out. Now, maybe Rams fans are there watching,

928
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, Greg, let's not. Let's not carrying

929
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: the water here. Tens of thousands of San Francisco fans

930
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: were in that building. Sounds like at best it was

931
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: half and half, but it was probably more forty fans.

932
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: But it's just wild. So that had for all the

933
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: things that had to feel so good for McVeigh and

934
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: the Rams. That was a tough situation to build up

935
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: to this week about how there was gonna be all

936
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: these forty Niners fans there. You sent all of them

937
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: out of your building in a sour mood. Uh. And

938
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: my other thing I think about is Kyle Shanahan at midfield.

939
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: He put his offense back on the field after that

940
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: lost challenge by McVeigh, and I'm thinking, man, that would

941
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: have been an incredible kill shot, uh, to send McVeigh

942
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: into the offseason. If you would have after he blows

943
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 1: his last time out on a bad challenge and puts

944
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: himself in a terrible situation for the rest of the game,

945
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: if you then would have gave it to Deebo Samuel

946
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: on fourth and two and converted a first down, then

947
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: we could be talking on a totally different outcome right now.

948
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: And he didn't do it. I thought that was conservative.

949
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: It was a sloppy game and in many ways for

950
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: both teams. So whoever lost is gonna go have a

951
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: lot to think about. And if you're the Niners, it

952
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: was a rough one. But to dance point on that

953
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: fourth down it they hit that deep throaw to Odell

954
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: Beckham another great throw. Uh. Two plays later they were

955
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: back at the exact same yard line that Kyle Shannon.

956
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: And it gets back to what I've been talking about

957
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: on the show. Both of these guys have this weird

958
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: inherent conservatism streak in them in terms of fourth downs.

959
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: Even even McVeigh kind of played for the field goals

960
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: on their last two field goal drives and and it

961
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: worked and that's great, But there is something about them

962
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: that's like a hell. They're progressive in terms of their

963
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: view on offense and scheme, but in terms of like

964
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: the tactician of like a game day, how I handle

965
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: my team, they are a little conservative. Surprisingly. So can

966
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: we hear sorry for cutting you off there, Mark, I'm

967
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: gonna tee you up on this one, Mark, because yeah,

968
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: the other thing that's gonna stick to uh Niners fans,

969
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: of course, Uh Jaquisky, Jack Whiskey, Tart the safety. There's

970
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: nine to play in the game and the Niners, I

971
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: believe at this point, are holding onto a three point lead,

972
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: and Stafford drops back to pass and throws a balloon

973
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: into the middle of the field. I would like to

974
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: hear the Niners call of this, because this was another

975
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: huge UH moment in the game. Stafford back, it's hit

976
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: as he froze deep down field for fair Jefferson and

977
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: the Boss should have been intercepted. It was dropped. Jakoski

978
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: Chart had the interception on the forty thirty two yard

979
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: lightly dropped the ball and he is sick. The ball

980
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: is under thrown in part flat out dropped and it

981
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: couldn't have hit him any better than it did right

982
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: in the neck. Great call there, Yeah, it was seventeen

983
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: seventeen at the time. UH. And after that play, immediately

984
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: after of this drop, it should be Niners ball with

985
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: a chance to take back control of the game. He

986
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: hits Beckham Stafford for twenty nine yards and then a

987
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: penalty onward for necessary roughness. It becomes a forty five

988
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: yard play. It leads to what ends up being the

989
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: deciding points. Yeah, I think if you're a quarterback and

990
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: you go. You know, Kevin Patra, our friend who wrote

991
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: up the game, called it a yolo ball for Stafford.

992
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, you only live once, which I think we

993
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: weird spot for a yolo ball. I think we also

994
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: banned the phrase yolo. It's gone. Okay, it was gone

995
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: from culture, and now you just brought it back in

996
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: a big spot. So we gotta yeah, we gotta work back. Well,

997
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: I referenced someone who brought it back. That's that's what

998
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: I did. But this is the thing, like I you know,

999
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 1: I know, it's like the one, the one thing about

1000
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, like every Jimmy g is getting

1001
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: destroyed on Twitter and all this stuff. Like there's just

1002
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: a part of me that's like I feel bad for

1003
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: Jimmy Gay. I feel bad for Tart. I mean, who

1004
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: tweeted out after no excuses. I deserve all the criticism,

1005
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: my way, the opportunity to dream of I came up short.

1006
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: I let my brothers down. I mean, first of all,

1007
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: you're taking accountability. But secondly, I mean, yeah, he's gonna

1008
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: think about that every moment of every day. It's one

1009
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: of those Well, here's the well that play you mean specifically,

1010
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: or the drop tarts dropped interception. It's like that would

1011
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: have ended this and we'd be talking about Matthew Stafford's

1012
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: two killer mistakes in this game, versus saying Matthew, but

1013
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: that was that was there. There never from that point

1014
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: on their season slipped away because they gave up the

1015
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: drive and then Garoppolo then takes the hit and throws

1016
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: the ball up for grabs. That stuff you can always

1017
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: do that though, Like Jalen Ramsey had two potential pick

1018
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: sixes in the second half that he dropped, which like

1019
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: he would be living with that for the rest of it.

1020
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: He's such a competitor. I would imagine it's killing him

1021
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: right now that he did not make the big plays

1022
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: in the big moments when he when he could, but

1023
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: he had his defensive guys around him to step up.

1024
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: I really do think that's what makes this Rams team

1025
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: unique special, you know, potentially a championship team is this

1026
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: defense really is is great and I know it didn't

1027
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: feel like they were getting after Jimmy g that that

1028
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: much this game. They stuffed the run. I mean that

1029
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: that fourth down that they didn't go for Dan it

1030
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: was because Eric Weddle came up on a run blitz

1031
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: fit and stuffed them. And then the next down it

1032
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: was Gains and a Sean Robinson who stuffed them. And

1033
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: you look at Elijah Mitchell on the day eleven for twenty.

1034
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: This dude has been killing everyone all year. This running

1035
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: game is what got you. But give it, give it

1036
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: to Deebo and see what happened. But Deebo even seven

1037
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: for six. Like here's the statute point I wrote this

1038
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: down UH San Francisco UH and their first five playoff

1039
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: games with Kyle Shanahan averaged a hundred and seventy seven

1040
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 1: h point four rushing yards per game. That's five yards

1041
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: to carry average today and yards carry right and and

1042
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: like we I did the sky Sports hit going into

1043
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and Bald Bald is just talking about

1044
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: this is where like what's happening. Aaron Donald hasn't made

1045
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: a play all game. It's seventeen to seven at that point,

1046
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: Like Aaron Donald needs to be the one who makes

1047
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: the play if he's going to be on the sideline

1048
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: trying to fire everyone up and change. And he did.

1049
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: He had he had two QB hits in that in

1050
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter and it's like everyone's gonna kill Jimmy

1051
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: g for throwing that pass. If he doesn't throw the pass,

1052
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: he's taken the sack, and it's fourth and game over,

1053
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: fourth and twenty and and if the guy doesn't drop

1054
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: it or it hits the ground, it's fourth and ten

1055
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: and they're gonna win the next down anyways, because all

1056
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: over them at that point. And then and they they

1057
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: stepped up. We we talked about quarterbacks stepping up in

1058
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Like those dudes stepped up. Let's hear

1059
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: from Aaron Donald. He our boy Steve Wish interviewing Aaron

1060
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: Donald on the field, and I think Von Miller crashes

1061
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: into the interview. Know that thing. I always wanted to

1062
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: be part of that thing. You win a big game,

1063
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: Well we kind of did with West and Company when

1064
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: we won the Shield titles. We were interviewed by Kwang

1065
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: Lamb on the desk, and I believe there was a

1066
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: that moment maybe West was being interviewed and I just

1067
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: like went over West shoulders, like we did it. Man.

1068
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: He's like, oh man, you're a real star. It's like, no,

1069
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: you are, bro. I think that moment might have happened.

1070
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: It was I think that, you know there was you

1071
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: kind of create You're you're sort of the person that

1072
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: showed us how to do that. Thanks Mark and Greg.

1073
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: You've got a trophy too. When we went back to

1074
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: back the Shield. Yeah, I was the general manager, do

1075
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: we not? I was Leo del Becco. Now they would

1076
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: have had to win a title. You know. I was

1077
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: a big free agent signing, and big sign we needed.

1078
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: Didn't get stale in the club. Let's hear Aaron Donald

1079
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: after the game with Steve wash what about the way

1080
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: the deep end held up. You go into the fourth

1081
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: quarter down seventeen and seven and you shut them out

1082
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: to give your offense enough time to rally. We brought

1083
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: I brought the guys that we talked. We got two

1084
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: much in the line to lose way too much on

1085
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: the left. Hey bye, bowled up, guys, start flying, roll

1086
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: and make big places we needed to. And also, lastly,

1087
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: the pressure you got on Garoppolo that led to the

1088
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: stack to seal the deal. What about that blunk? Just

1089
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: just being relentless, That's that's amazing passion. I love a

1090
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: great job by Why should a big spot there? And

1091
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: there was a great moment in the game. This is

1092
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: seventeen seven. Donald is one of the great players in

1093
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: the history of the sport. Um in his prime. He's

1094
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: been too near the mountaintop once, he's been to the

1095
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: super He's been part of some disappointing RAMS teams through

1096
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: the years, and you see him pulling those guys together

1097
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: on the sideline and giving them that exact message, and

1098
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: he just explained to why clearly. He's like, guys, we

1099
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: cannot let them move the ball again. We are better

1100
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: than this team. We need to win this game. And literally,

1101
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: from that moment when Fox caught that on the sideline,

1102
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: their defense never gave up another yard in that game.

1103
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: And they were like Donald, that happens sometimes. And you

1104
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: can see these players, you know, with all their bluster,

1105
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: and it's like the other teammates are kind of like,

1106
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: alright with no because they were like there, it was

1107
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: a moment of total sobriety. They were nodding along with

1108
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: him and never it changed them entire and the Rams

1109
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: in general have are an advertisement on team building because

1110
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 1: it's like, go get these stars, give them a little

1111
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: bit of time. They're gonna peak at the right moment

1112
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have so many Odell Beckham disgruntled wide

1113
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: receivers and other players midway through next year, saying, get

1114
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: me out of this trash city and take me somewhere special.

1115
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: Let's talk Odell after the break. Let's talk Odell because

1116
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: he he really did. He profiled as an important guy

1117
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: in this game because the Rams need that, they need

1118
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: that secondary receiver. They lose Tyler Higbee to injury earlier

1119
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: in this game, so then Beckham becomes an essential figure.

1120
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: Cup is gonna do what Cup does. Eleven uh for one,

1121
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: two and two touchdowns on four teen targets. He is brilliant,

1122
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: he is, and he had a drop he even those

1123
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: numbers could even be bigger, but he made every other

1124
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: play in this game and is such a money player,

1125
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: one of the best wide receivers in the sport. But

1126
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: Beckham first one yard games since weeks six of two

1127
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen with the Browns, and we had been waiting

1128
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: for Beckham to have this type of game. He didn't

1129
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: find the end zone, but he was nine for one

1130
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: thirteen and every time Stafford look for him on eleven targets,

1131
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: Beckham was there, ready to play and made the big

1132
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: plays that frankly so as someone who's been vocally critical

1133
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: of Beckham, and I still hate the way he kind

1134
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: of got his way out of town in Cleveland, but

1135
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: you have to give it up to him because he's

1136
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: now really proved himself Mark a guy that for all

1137
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: the ups and downs of his career when the spotlight

1138
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: was bright here with l A, he really has answered

1139
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: the call absolutely. Like I don't like the exit either,

1140
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: but that's secondary and that's in the deep distance at

1141
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: this point. To me, it's like he is. He was

1142
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: looking out I think for how he'd be remembered as

1143
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: a player, and we do think of him differently now.

1144
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: And I mean it took a little bit of time,

1145
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: but it's also Matthew Stafford's first season in this offense too,

1146
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: And I just I I give the Rams a lot

1147
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: of credit for honestly going for it and not in

1148
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: fullhardy fashion, and like the way that it's working for them.

1149
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: It's because someone like less Sneed chose to think totally

1150
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: differently about building a team than other teams do. I mean,

1151
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: Odell has found money, he got his way out of

1152
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 1: the Browns, but it's not like they had to trade

1153
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: for him, but they did. They did call him up though,

1154
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: and explain how they'd use them, Like it wasn't just

1155
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: about money or just where he's like, they made it

1156
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: clear to him that that was the landing spot and

1157
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: they were right, and then Robert Woods blows his knee

1158
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: out right, they did a great did a great job.

1159
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: They did a great job getting him, building a program

1160
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: to get him to the point. But it's sort of

1161
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: been lost in the shuffle, Like he's getting paid, you know,

1162
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: the same as like Will Fuller gets paid for eight games,

1163
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: Like he's just getting a half a season at at

1164
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: four million, four and a half million dollars. I mean,

1165
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: that is incredible. Now he's getting he keeps getting more

1166
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: bonuses as they win, and it was tied to winning,

1167
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: which is brilliant too. But it's like every team's got

1168
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: a weakness and all year it was like, how are

1169
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: the forty niners overcoming these cornerbacks? Like how are they

1170
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: do doing it? Like it just doesn't make sense, like

1171
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: Damiko Ryan's and the past rush are just overcoming at all.

1172
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: And I think today was the day where where it

1173
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: hurt them because you just can't cover two guys on

1174
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: the outside. They had to leave O'Dell Beckham by himself

1175
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: while Cooper Cup was getting doubled inside and Odell beat

1176
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: him over and over. Whereas the Rams weaknesses in theory,

1177
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't think showed up as much some of their

1178
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: linebacker play where they try to get cheap Troy Reader

1179
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: had a tough day, but like they lose their two

1180
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: starting safeties during that collapse, and they bring in Nick

1181
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: Scott and Wettle, and those two dudes have been awesome.

1182
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I get on McVeigh for

1183
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: some of the things he doesn't do as well. I

1184
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 1: get the feeling, like Belichick, he is about as good

1185
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: a tactician in terms of like practicing and building up

1186
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: their skill sets and fundamentals, and like getting guys into

1187
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: the right positions and knowing the roles and having a

1188
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: vision for those roles, and getting his coaching staff to

1189
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: all coach up the way he wants it to. Because

1190
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: they can lose guys they have so any like random

1191
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: guys that just most NFL teams don't have it, like

1192
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: minimum salaries, that just come up and play at a

1193
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: very high level, and like the coach to get a

1194
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: lot of credit. And I thought he did a very

1195
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: Shanahan type thing that I sent a message early and

1196
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: I love this. When they had an eighteen play drive

1197
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: that started on their own three yard line, ninety seven yards,

1198
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: they go over ten plus minutes and basically that's exactly

1199
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: what the Niners did. Added the gate to l A

1200
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: in that week ten smashing when when when Stafford threw

1201
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: two picks to open the game and everything felt lost

1202
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: for Los Angeles. People came out of that asking about

1203
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: their identity as they went into their bye week, and

1204
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: I think Sean McVeigh was embarrassed by that, and he's

1205
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: in a totally different place. Now. The Rams had eleven

1206
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: third down conversions eight team. I mean, that's and the

1207
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: Niners pass rush was working too. That's quarterback play. I like,

1208
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about the tart thing. And

1209
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: I know Stafford through behind Cup and it was a

1210
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: bad interception in the end zone early for set. First

1211
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: of all, they you know, square neck dropped the fifty

1212
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: yard touchdown, Cup dropped the potential touchdown. But that eleven

1213
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: for eighteen, like that was Stafford and that was like

1214
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: there weren't a lot of bubble screens on those. In fact,

1215
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: a lot of the seven third down, they didn't pick

1216
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: up We're because Sean McVeigh was like late in the game,

1217
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: like throwing passes that had no chance to go to

1218
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 1: it and wanted to be conservative like Stafford was money

1219
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: on the money downs. He was so good that this

1220
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: playoff run. This is interesting that square neck was only

1221
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: on the field because the Rams went no huddle after

1222
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: a third down conversion. He had come in for Odell

1223
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: to block and then he finds himself all all alone

1224
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: in the end zone and that was one of those

1225
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: would have been a great catch. But oh that was

1226
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: It was one of those plays. Watch it again, Mark,

1227
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: because it was like one of those plays where it

1228
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: hits the guy's hands and explodes off his hands like

1229
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: he was a guard. I was like, oh no, I

1230
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: felt bad for him. But obviously that was not his

1231
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: moment to shine, right. It was Stafford overcame it. But

1232
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't perfect, right, so you can't like I'm not

1233
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: but he had first interception was he was off the

1234
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: market again. But even like the throws to get he

1235
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect at all, but he was significantly better then

1236
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: every quarterback he's gone against, and like and just the

1237
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: the quality of the throws. I guess you can't underrate

1238
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: because he's doing things that that other guys can't do,

1239
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: Guys other than O'Dell and Cup, other than Kendall Blanton,

1240
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: who had a great game at at tight end had

1241
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: nine targets for seven yards. So like it was all

1242
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: Odell and Cup, you may have to do it again

1243
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: because it's you don't have Tyler Higbey necessarily for this game.

1244
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on with it with his

1245
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: but I kicker club scenario I would be concerned with.

1246
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: If you're the rams about mac A. I just does

1247
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: not seem reliable to me on any level that he

1248
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: missed the net with his first attempt. He did, you know,

1249
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: he to his even though they weren't difficult kicks per se.

1250
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: Hitting those two in the fourth quarter helped put him

1251
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: into the championship game. He's listen. I feel good about

1252
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: where the power ranks are UM going into the Super Bowl.

1253
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: Very clearly the Bengals have the edge. There a lot

1254
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: of mystery around that. That's a big edge for Cincinnati.

1255
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: It is great. The Stafford story is, it's a great story.

1256
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: UM knowing everything about him and where he came from,

1257
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 1: Detroit and now either he's gonna win a super Bowl

1258
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: or the Bengals are gonna shock the world and go

1259
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: from last place to super Bowl champions. I think it.

1260
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: Things are really there are a lot of great storylines.

1261
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: This is a great storyline super Bowl, which is a

1262
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: nice thing for our show. And it's fresh. I mean

1263
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: this Rams team winning would be fresh. And this has

1264
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: been a long build. I mean, they've they were a

1265
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: top I think they were third and winds in the

1266
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: NFL since McVeigh has gotten there, behind the Chiefs and

1267
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: the Pats. So it's like they've they've been knocking on

1268
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: the door and now they're trying to get through. And

1269
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: nothing tops the Bengals, though, come on, you can't by

1270
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: the way, you can't get Trey Lance in there for

1271
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: one of these short yardage plays. I know this is

1272
01:04:50,080 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 1: they're gonna get September literally, Lands need see a doctor. Lance.

1273
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,959
Speaker 1: Thing drives me crazy because the last couple of weeks

1274
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: in these games where you scored six offensive points last

1275
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: week and this week, you couldn't have used just could

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Speaker 1: no more than we do. Greg and I don't talk

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01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: short yardage. Short yardage, It's okay short I understand what

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01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: you're saying. But I remember sharing this quote that I

1279
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: read somewhere that Shanahan didn't like mixing and matching the QBS.

1280
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: He thought it messed with the flow of the office.

1281
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: There was something about this. I don't think anybody could

1282
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: have predicted this is how the Niners first season with

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01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: the number three overall pick would play out. Where he's

1284
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: in the mix for six or seven weeks, he has

1285
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: a spots injury, start, gets hurt himself, disappears, and then

1286
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: is no longer part of the team. Most about the flow.

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01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: I just I think he's probably you probably also don't

1288
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: care that Leonardo DiCaprio was in the crowd, which that

1289
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: was essentially all I was focused on for much of

1290
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: the second half. Yeah, I mean that was a big

1291
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: moment for you, I think for I think for anyone

1292
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: with you into you're a little worried that he was

1293
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: not going to do the show because he was just

1294
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna leave and stock Leo. He's like he had never

1295
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: been that he hadn't didn't wasn't aware that he did

1296
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: occur to me that he was like literally four football

1297
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: fields away from my my desk seat right before we

1298
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: started taping. I ran into Scott Hanson of Red Zone Fame,

1299
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: and Scott he told me a corker Leo DiCaprio story

1300
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: he had. Now I can't share details of it because

1301
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to betray Scott's confidence, because I think

1302
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: we might have a growing friendship. Now, Um, it's in play.

1303
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: I think if you're the listener, let your imagination sore.

1304
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: It was that juicy of But he told me a

1305
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: winding tale of Hansen and DiCaprio in a big spot,

1306
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: in DiCaprio being on the wrong side of history, in

1307
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: a big spot, maybe, well he goes there sometimes. If

1308
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: you see me right side of history now, lifelong Rams fan,

1309
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean he was living and dying with the Van

1310
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: Jefferson drops and everything. He's just like he's he's not

1311
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: he's not he's not technically big enough a football fan

1312
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: for Greg, so he's not allowed in them. If you

1313
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: see me um in Los Angeles this week, listeners, Uh,

1314
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: and I'm maybe sitting I'm saddled up at a bar somewhere,

1315
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: and you want to come up to me like I

1316
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: would like to hear the Scott Hansen story. Um about

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio I will tell you that story privately. Well,

1318
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: it should make Hanson feel very comfortable. I won't I

1319
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: won't broadcast it. But off the holiday at the tavern, Well,

1320
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: I think we're all we're all breathless at the concept

1321
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: of that. So all right, any other thoughts on the

1322
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, Greg, This is a moment for you now.

1323
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 1: I know you have a lot on your mind. There's

1324
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: any other thoughts, we're all but just button up, Just

1325
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: to button up the Jimmy Garoppolo that was, in all

1326
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: likelihood his final game with the forty Niners. Um, I

1327
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: believe there was a stat entering the game. He was

1328
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: thirty five and fifteen as a starter entering this game.

1329
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: So we're about to you know, the rubber is about

1330
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: to meet the road, and you're gonna learn more about Garoppolo.

1331
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: I think wherever he ends up next, because I don't

1332
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: think that accurately tells you who he is as a quarterback. However,

1333
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: I do think even if his value took a hit

1334
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 1: during this playoff run, there's gonna be a team that

1335
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: looks at that record and looks at, um the success

1336
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: the forty Niners had when he was involved and will

1337
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: say he's r QB one. Just you'd have to, like

1338
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: if you're a front office, also note that he's in

1339
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: the offense that is going to maximize every quarterback that's

1340
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: ever in an understanding. And oh there's a major buyer.

1341
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: Beware here. I'm just saying, I think there's a team

1342
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 1: out there and it's not a it's not a market

1343
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: flush with options for veteran quarterbacks that's gonna identify him.

1344
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: Whether I don't know Indianapolis, someone's trading for him, forget

1345
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: like him getting cut on that contract. Someone's looking at

1346
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: that contract and saying, yes, please bring him to Carolina

1347
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: or Pittsburgh or New Orleans or somewhere. And what happens

1348
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: it's after that we'll see. And I have my deaths personally,

1349
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: but I think he is a starting quarterback Week one.

1350
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: But it will not be for thet Now, is it

1351
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,560
Speaker 1: Trey Lance? It has to be right. If it's not

1352
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, there's something going on that we have not

1353
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: been privy. I don't know if anything has to be

1354
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: with the quarterback market in the NFL. At this point,

1355
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: this didn't feel as much like a Jimmy g game, though,

1356
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: like a referendum on that he's not the whole three stretch.

1357
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: I know they won two of the games, even yeah,

1358
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: even even the even the Week eight team game, and

1359
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: just that everything has to be to the middle of

1360
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: the field. I mean, there's just like nothing to the outside.

1361
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: I do feel bad for Nick Bosa and that whole

1362
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: group up front, And that's part of the reason why

1363
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm honking about Stafford so much. As they were amazing

1364
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: Bosa beast Did Armstead beast? Did they? They had I

1365
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: think ten quarterback hits. They were all over Stafford, which

1366
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 1: is which is why I was so impressed. He's not

1367
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna this would not be something he would share. Kyle Shanahan,

1368
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: Kyle shanhon But I wonder if he thinks about it. Yeah,

1369
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: we had a ten point lead in the fourth quarter

1370
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: of then if seat time game, by the way, I

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: think they had in the Super Bowl as well, and

1372
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: that that got away. But I wonder fourth quarter. He

1373
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: also was the offensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcon That's

1374
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: not a certain scenario, but I wonder if he would

1375
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: ever think to himself when he puts his head to

1376
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: pillow man, if I wanted to put the kid in

1377
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know great Lance ever seemed ready for I

1378
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: don't know this. He never really got the chair. It's

1379
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: instructed to me that they rode this Jimmy g like

1380
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: roller coaster. He did, and they were about to go

1381
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: to him though. Remember remember he was hurt at the

1382
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: moment that they lost that Colts game in the rain,

1383
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: and it felt like that was He wavered and said,

1384
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Jimmy's gonna start next week. But

1385
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 1: then Tree Lance wasn't even healthy enough to play. It

1386
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: was a it was a weird sliding doors. I was like,

1387
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: who's gonna say sliding doors, sliding doors? Give us a

1388
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 1: sliding doors siren, Rickey, here's the real sliding doors. And

1389
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: I know I'll sound like a Homer here and everything

1390
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: would be different. So who knows. But if you told

1391
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: me that the forty Nars would be in the super

1392
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: Bowl if they had drafted Mac Jones, I would I

1393
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: would buy that little Mac Jones had a really Kylen

1394
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: wanted Initially, um, speaking of mac Jones and Patriots, Homer's Yes,

1395
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady maybe retired. We that we felt like this

1396
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: show was a show that should be dedicated to the

1397
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: two games that determined the Super Bowl combatants and it

1398
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: turned into the Westling Bowl. Um. But yes, Tuesday's episode

1399
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: of the Round the NFL podcast, we will be diving

1400
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: deep on Brady. Hopefully we'll have some resolution on his status.

1401
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: But it certainly feels like now with the reporting, uh

1402
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: that he will be retiring after twenty two years, I

1403
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: will owe you guys, Sangwiches. I'm still surprised and I'm

1404
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: still not totally sold. I know everything is pointing to

1405
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 1: and rap Sheet even said rap She came out and said,

1406
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: oh f y, I he's still gonna retire. He's just

1407
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: now I'm paraphrasing, he's pissed at Schefter. He doesn't want

1408
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter on a Saturday morning telling the world that

1409
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: he's quitting the most successful Arlington. You gotta put Darlington's

1410
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: name and Jeff Darlington put some respect on his name. Um,

1411
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: but he is going to retire still. He just didn't

1412
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: like the timing. He wants to announce it in this

1413
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: little TV Times, uh newspaper thing that he puts out there.

1414
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: There is an interesting discussion had about how this whole

1415
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: thing is played out in his his uh, his dad

1416
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: and his agent pushing back so hard. But we can

1417
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: have that discussion. We will talk about that Tuesday. We

1418
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: also talked about how the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will have

1419
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick in the I don't know.

1420
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: You know what, if you're a Bucks fan, it was

1421
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: totally worth it, right for right back into the darkness,

1422
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: but a quick trip out of the darkness. I wonder

1423
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: if I wonder if we see Todd Bowles, you know,

1424
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I read, I

1425
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: don't know if I want. I read Bruce arians apparently

1426
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: is telling all his coaching staff to go ahead and

1427
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 1: interview and take jobs, even if there's no promotion involved.

1428
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: Just go ahead. I told you he was not into this. Well,

1429
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: I don't know how I agree with you. All Right,

1430
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna take sure. I will take credit for it.

1431
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 1: Take takes, never expire. We can also talk about, you know,

1432
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels is the Raiders coach. How about Brian Dable.

1433
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: Is this we can also talk about. So we're gonna

1434
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: hit all these big league storylines, of course, and then

1435
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: uh we we do like to do a show during

1436
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: the ramp up to the Super Bowl where we don't

1437
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: use the word or the words super Bowl. I don't

1438
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: know if that's Tuesday show, but at some point we

1439
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: might want to challenge ourselves because we got Thursday. Perhaps.

1440
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: I think that's often the time we have two weeks

1441
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: ramping up to the final game of the season. If

1442
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: you don't count the Pro Bowl, no, I do, personally.

1443
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: I know that's when you're gonna be ponying up at

1444
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: this bar telling anything about Scott Hansen's story that was

1445
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: told you bellied up at the bar, spilling house secrets

1446
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: West by the way. We would not watch a second

1447
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: of any Pro Bowl. So that's what I'm gonna do.

1448
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: Not watch a second of it. Sorry, NFL. I know it's,

1449
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, touted as this high, high level event. Greg

1450
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: is not saying a word. He won't speak again instant.

1451
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: You know. For kids, I've decided about something totally different. Kids.

1452
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: My kids actually are really into the Pro Bowl. They

1453
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: look for They have been talking about it and looking

1454
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: forward to it, and they think it's a bigger deal

1455
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: than basically every game except we think about it. If

1456
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: you're a kid, the ideas every all the best players

1457
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: on every team are now playing in a game against

1458
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: each other. I mean it sounds great, except that every

1459
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: best player giving we get it. We're all on the

1460
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: same page. I will, I will, but the kids don't

1461
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: get it. I'll get in line and start. Do you

1462
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: think the kids are watching? Like the blocking schemes and

1463
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: the effort of the tackling. Mark, you could say to

1464
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: your kids, this is not a quality product. I'm going

1465
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: to teach you to watch a quality product. But that's Mark.

1466
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: Is that guy on Twitter like arguing against no one,

1467
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: like a take, like he's arguing against someone that you

1468
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 1: know you're gonna You're gonna chastise your children for watching

1469
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: poor quality football when they just want to see a

1470
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: lot of great stuff comes out of it. To the

1471
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 1: personalities you get to see, Like you know, when they're

1472
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: throwing I didn't realize I ran rough shot into three

1473
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: company men. I okay, it's like I like, you know,

1474
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: please company people, Mark be obedient. Alright, alright, the Pro

1475
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: bowls marvelous product and it will be treated as such

1476
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: on this program. Mark. Well, let's preview it on Thursday

1477
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: for minutes and that'd be quick. Well, it sounds like

1478
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: a dare. Let's do it. Then, if you guys actually

1479
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: feel this way, we have some time to fill. Now

1480
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: there aren't many games left, in fact, just the one

1481
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: in two weeks from tonight. I'll have a WiFi issue

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Speaker 1: that day, we'll be there. We'll be there by the way,

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Speaker 1: We'll be at the super Bowl. Can't wait. Um and uh,

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Speaker 1: that is gonna be a great week. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: down at the Los Angeles Convention Center downtown. There's a

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Speaker 1: whole like Big Ricky is a big set set up.

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio is is putting a bit. You know

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Speaker 1: how you used to go to Radio Row and you

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Speaker 1: see like the big serious XM sets or what was

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Speaker 1: the big NBC this I hearts that blows up. We want,

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Speaker 1: I want you have to be credited because previously I

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Speaker 1: think there is no you can't come into the well.

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Speaker 1: COVID is different, but like you can't come into the

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Speaker 1: row area with our credential. But there is a part

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Speaker 1: where yes, fans they roped off like animals essentially, but

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Speaker 1: they yeah, they were within eyeshot of some of the

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Speaker 1: activity within distant eye shot. In fact, there were a

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Speaker 1: lot of fans watching West eat a softball pants that

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Speaker 1: one time. That's true. There was there was a horde

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Speaker 1: of individuals. One of our memorable Radio Row moments. They

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Speaker 1: weren't maybe necessarily podcast fans, They were just watching the

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Speaker 1: general goings on and we're like, there's a man over

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Speaker 1: there eating a giant um hot dog with pieces of

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Speaker 1: pants on it, So you know, that's our podcast in

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Speaker 1: a nutshell. I always remember that well. West. The wager

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Speaker 1: was if the Raiders win ten games. It was the

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Speaker 1: Dennis Allen led Raiders that were a disaster, and he

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Speaker 1: was they got out they won a couple at some

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Speaker 1: point hated that team or he didn't think they were

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Speaker 1: any good at all, but they this path that actually

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Speaker 1: got them to the number of wins misremembering maybe a

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Speaker 1: little of this, but whatever it was, it screwed West.

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Speaker 1: And West was so confident that the team would fail

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Speaker 1: um that he said I'll eat my softball pants. I

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Speaker 1: think it was they wouldn't win six because they at

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Speaker 1: some point, we're getting great, like they won fourteen games,

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Speaker 1: and uh he did. We went after I think it

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Speaker 1: was the New York Super Bowl and we found there

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Speaker 1: was a hot dog stand with the largest hot dog

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Speaker 1: in the world. Bought that sucker for bucks expense. That

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Speaker 1: nailed it, and then we cut up the and there

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Speaker 1: was like, West, this is the only thing you need

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Speaker 1: to do. West, you must bring the softball pants. Make

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Speaker 1: sure that this is pre Lukisha. It's like West. The

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Speaker 1: one thing you need to do is when you get

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Speaker 1: on the plane, have the softball pants. Reminded him fourteen times.

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Speaker 1: Pants my pants, and he had to like run out

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Speaker 1: and buy pants. And it was a whole thing. But

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Speaker 1: he did take a bite of that hot dog with

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Speaker 1: a chopped up There was even some zipper in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a zip last ate more of the pants than

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Speaker 1: he needed to write. Well, you know, he was a

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Speaker 1: man of his words, sou So we're you know, thinking

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Speaker 1: about West now, We're gonna be thinking about him forever.

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Speaker 1: But now we have his his childhood team, his complicated team,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals against the Rams, Lakisha's team. So that is

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl and we will be here to take

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Speaker 1: you guys to the finish line. Anything else before we

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Speaker 1: say goodbye. Don't open it back up too late. I did.

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Speaker 1: I threw it out one last time. I want like

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Speaker 1: a Jawan Jennings break. No, not not looking for it now,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's good, let's go. Good stuff. Wow, Bengals Rams.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. Emotions are total chicken will today the call

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Speaker 1: s S S