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Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome to Big Fish, Smallpod. I'm Andrew Werdahl and

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Speaker 1: today this is September seventh. The Marlins this afternoon will

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Speaker 1: face the Philadelphia Phillies, sending Trevor Rodgers to face the

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Speaker 1: Bailey Falter at six forty five pm Citizens Bank Park

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. And for the podcast here today, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to talk about what we can expect from this Marlins

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Speaker 1: organization in light of the recent Swings and Mishes episode

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Speaker 1: that came out late last week Wake Me Up when

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Speaker 1: September ends again featuring Jeremy Tashha and insights from Craig

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Speaker 1: Mish that speak to the Marlins organization as a whole

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Speaker 1: without really saying much in detail of the organization. So

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Speaker 1: on today's pod, what I want to do is talk

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Speaker 1: a bit about baseball operations, organizational practices and like these

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Speaker 1: processes that could be seen some changes in the future.

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Speaker 1: As Mish mentions in his podcast in which he refers

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Speaker 1: to the Marlins season as embarrassing, abysmal and expresses doubt

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Speaker 1: over the future of the coaching staff, he offers clarity

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Speaker 1: that the Marlins offense is as bad as it's been

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Speaker 1: and I totally recommend you watch or listen to rather

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Speaker 1: that episode because it does like a like tip a lot,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't really go that extra mile and like

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Speaker 1: really ground what you as a fan, someone who's not

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Speaker 1: like a literal professional baseball operations department for a Major

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Speaker 1: League baseball team. I mean, to be honest, you're probably

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Speaker 1: listening to this podcast because you're a fan of the team,

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Speaker 1: and some things are to us simply behind closed doors.

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Speaker 1: Certainly elsewhere on Fish Stripes you can find some of

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Speaker 1: those open doors, some great interviews with Marlin's players, craft

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Speaker 1: and present. But really today what I have for you

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Speaker 1: is a bit of just insight into these actual processes

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Speaker 1: and how teams coordinate from baseball analytics to these coaching

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Speaker 1: staffs to the players and do that in like a

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Speaker 1: unified manner as a front office with coaching staffs and

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Speaker 1: affiliates all across the country. Certainly, as Craig Mish mentions,

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Speaker 1: implying changes to the organization often means personnel changes, be

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Speaker 1: it like coaches or players or front office executives brought

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Speaker 1: in and with them like their own certain set of

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Speaker 1: baseball things, really like different beliefs and abilities and knowledge

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Speaker 1: and kim ag is in at general manager, and there

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Speaker 1: are many holdover staff from the days prior to her tenure.

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Speaker 1: But what we haven't really seen yet from her directly

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Speaker 1: is like the actual changes she's going to implement for

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Speaker 1: this organization going forward. And we know right now there

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Speaker 1: is a problem, and it's totally like on her to

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Speaker 1: find the problem, hear it out, and address it. And

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Speaker 1: that absolutely mirrors what happens in these rooms with these

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Speaker 1: coaches and players. What they're doing is studying the game

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Speaker 1: of baseball. They have as best I can describe, the

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Speaker 1: baseball analytics movement has helped to really like distill information

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Speaker 1: that can be gathered on the field of play, be

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Speaker 1: like a spin rate on your fastball, or exit velocity,

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Speaker 1: or like spin on the bad at ball. Like these

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Speaker 1: qualities of what a player does on the field, what

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Speaker 1: a pitcher throws, what a hitter can hit, have all

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Speaker 1: been quantified over years now compared to each other, and

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Speaker 1: teams that utilize this, which is everybody have a quantified

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Speaker 1: sense of what they need to be doing to improve

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Speaker 1: as players. It's all the information and most importantly it

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Speaker 1: needs to be directed to your players developing in the

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Speaker 1: minor leagues to become better players to see what they

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Speaker 1: need to reach toward. Where it's as athletes to define

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Speaker 1: those goals and then to do that physical work to

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Speaker 1: develop towards that height. And there needs to be that

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Speaker 1: sort of support from the organization providing that feedback, allowing

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Speaker 1: athletes to have that sense of their abilities and sense

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Speaker 1: of their limitations and the information to care and direct

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Speaker 1: their training towards that high performance ability and that athletic exceptionality.

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Speaker 1: And the Marlins haven't been getting that exactly. To avoid

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Speaker 1: like rehashing what Craig Mish was already saying, what we

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Speaker 1: need from the Marlins organization is a like process to

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Speaker 1: like identify issues and identify what a player should be

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Speaker 1: doing to reach their future best self. But they need

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Speaker 1: to be knowledgeable on the solution and like how that

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Speaker 1: relates to like the physicality of a player. Do they

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Speaker 1: need to be stretching more? Do they need to like

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Speaker 1: get a chiropractor and stop eating cheese? Like what is

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Speaker 1: the actual best thing that can be done for the

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Speaker 1: health of these players? How can that change be conveyed

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Speaker 1: to the player, and how can that change be like

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Speaker 1: nurtured with the player in like a supportive sort of

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Speaker 1: role of like the organization providing basically the keys to

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Speaker 1: baseball excellence to a player that they draft or sign.

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Speaker 1: With the talk on Gary denbo being that he was

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Speaker 1: something of what I've distilled to be an abrasive personality.

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Speaker 1: It seems like he's let there be some like odds

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Speaker 1: between player and organization. That's raw speculation, but without doing

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Speaker 1: that minimum to like actually provide players with the keys

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Speaker 1: to get better. The organization lets the odds be against

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Speaker 1: them as they try to develop minor leaguers into major leaguers,

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Speaker 1: which is already like a high attrition process. And it

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Speaker 1: does feel now in twenty twenty two, that we've seen

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Speaker 1: a Marlin's organization go through enough of a cycle that

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Speaker 1: we can say something needs to change. If I'm commaning,

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing now is everything I can to get

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Speaker 1: feedback from the players and coaches and staff to find

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Speaker 1: out where these holes are, to identify them and address

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Speaker 1: them and amend that. Because it doesn't really matter how

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Speaker 1: much an athlete wants to improve or how much they're

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Speaker 1: willing to do to improve if they don't have those

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Speaker 1: actual insights and processes that they can follow themselves to

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Speaker 1: actually improve beyond just speculating on what they could be

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Speaker 1: doing differently day to day. It actually is a lot

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Speaker 1: to maintain and coordinate there. So I don't mean to

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Speaker 1: like be a podcast or about this, but it really

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Speaker 1: is key that a player in an organization be on

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Speaker 1: the same page about what a player can do, how

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Speaker 1: they can improve, and what they need to be doing

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Speaker 1: to make those steps forward, and that communication. Failure can

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Speaker 1: happen at any point during that communication, and even for

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Speaker 1: the player, it is long and hard work that you

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Speaker 1: need to be doing, presumably better than all of your

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Speaker 1: competition to make games. So anyhow, that's really it for

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Speaker 1: the pot. Hopefully that offered some color to what this

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Speaker 1: seemingly like nebulous cloud of uncertainty around the Marlins organization

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Speaker 1: is and what could be changing within that. Twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two has been a weird ride, but we're back here

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Speaker 1: Ford at Fish Stripes. I'll be back with you on

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Speaker 1: Friday with an episode of Big Fish Small Pod. But

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Speaker 1: totally keep tuned to the network. We'll have some more

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Speaker 1: material for y'all this week and again Today's Game six

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Speaker 1: forty five Bailey Falter and Trevor Rogers