Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review. The Commanders were back
Speaker 1: in a big way. London dominating performance by the entire team,
Speaker 1: and you got to hand out that belt. I know
Speaker 1: the crowd wants.
Speaker 2: We'll see does Terry get it or does the defended
Speaker 2: champion dot Te Fowler tanged his belt.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of good candidates for that on
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Speaker 1: I'm brand White side with Big Fletch London Fletcher.
Speaker 3: It's been a while we won, won big.
Speaker 1: I'm Big against Tennessee man Man.
Speaker 2: How good does it feel to be doing this Booth
Speaker 2: Review coming off of victory? Just outstanding performance all around
Speaker 2: and the way they did it. It's one thing to win,
Speaker 2: and we want to win all games. But how they
Speaker 2: looked in that victory. I think you and I we
Speaker 2: were all just ecstatic seeing the way that team performed
Speaker 2: in every every facet of the game. But you know,
Speaker 2: there's some issues we'll talk about that we can do
Speaker 2: better on. But we're going to talk about how great
Speaker 2: the offense looks, how great the defense looked, and how
Speaker 2: great the tabe looked at general headed to the bye week.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll go back through the whole thing. I
Speaker 1: think largely, I kind of feel like this was the
Speaker 1: first time they looked like the early season version of themselves.
Speaker 1: That I think was surprising then and then people went
Speaker 1: through this how long NFL seasons are? People then go
Speaker 1: through this, Well, where was that? They never expected it
Speaker 1: in the first place. Now they've seen it, and now
Speaker 1: they go where was that? And it showed up again.
Speaker 1: But I think one of the big things that happened
Speaker 1: during the week which became really relevant to the whole
Speaker 1: story of the week was Bobby Wagner spoke to the team,
Speaker 1: And this is probably not uncommon. Leaders of the team
Speaker 1: step up at certain points of the season, and I
Speaker 1: think we can all agree, whether they'll be willing to
Speaker 1: say this or not. They had to win yesterday. I mean,
Speaker 1: you couldn't go into the buy on a four game
Speaker 1: losing streak when you were seven and two and feel
Speaker 1: good about making the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I think this felt like a must win.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to speak for Bobby, but it
Speaker 1: sounds like there was part of him going, hey, we
Speaker 1: got a good team here, let's get this thing back
Speaker 1: on track.
Speaker 3: So just before we I want.
Speaker 1: To play the interaction that you had with him in
Speaker 1: the locker room, because a lot's been made of Bobby's
Speaker 1: the milestone he made, in the milestone that you've set,
Speaker 1: in the standard.
Speaker 3: That you set.
Speaker 1: But what did you just make first of Bobby speaking
Speaker 1: to the team last week.
Speaker 2: I thought it was great and it's a testament to
Speaker 2: him as a as a leader. When you go through
Speaker 2: adversity during the season, and you're gonna have adversity during seasons,
Speaker 2: You're gonna have adversity during games, But how can you
Speaker 2: get yourself out of it? Bobby recognize and realize, hey,
Speaker 2: we're on a three game losing streak. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of naysayer's a lot of negativity being talked about this
Speaker 2: football team.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're not that good.
Speaker 2: But for him to a guy who's a former Super
Speaker 2: Bowl champion, he's been in a lot of wars, been
Speaker 2: through been in multiple NFC championship games, multiple playoff games,
Speaker 2: him saying, you know what, hey, guys, let's block out
Speaker 2: all the outside noise. We're still an ex the football team.
Speaker 2: We take care of our business. We play like we're
Speaker 2: capable of playing we can go out and dominate teams.
Speaker 2: And so for him to go to Dan Quinn and say, hey, coach,
Speaker 2: let me talk to him.
Speaker 3: And we talked about this in the in our interview
Speaker 3: with d Q. The coach teams can.
Speaker 2: Teams can kind of tune coach out because his messages
Speaker 2: is constant and you're hearing it all all the time.
Speaker 2: But when you have a player and players deliver a
Speaker 2: message and hold each other accountable, it just hits different.
Speaker 2: It is differently, and for Bobby to do that as
Speaker 2: a testament to who he is as a leader, who
Speaker 2: he is as a player.
Speaker 1: You won a Super Bowl? Did that happen in your
Speaker 1: locker room?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you guys, I like what Washington has done
Speaker 1: this year offensively. For periods of time, you guys had
Speaker 1: a consistently greater show on turf. There must have been
Speaker 1: hard periods though.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: During during both of the seasons that we we end
Speaker 2: up going to the Super Bowl, I'll say definitely the
Speaker 2: first one where we're still kind of learning who we
Speaker 2: are as a team, learning how to win. Similar to
Speaker 2: this year's team, we started the season off six and
Speaker 2: all we're rolling, clicking on all cylinders and we go
Speaker 2: to Tennessee ironically and lose to the Times in Nashville,
Speaker 2: and then we lose to the Detroit Lions. We gave
Speaker 2: up like a fourth and I don't know, twenty twenty
Speaker 2: type play that could have won the game. So we
Speaker 2: got a two game losing streak. Same old Sorry, Rams
Speaker 2: is kind of now being a narrative. They've come back
Speaker 2: to reality and we had to have some you know,
Speaker 2: conversations and realize, okay, who are we and then we
Speaker 2: end up rolling again, not not losing another game to
Speaker 2: the end of the season, where the last regular season
Speaker 2: game we had everything clenched up, you know, pulls start
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But we had a two game
Speaker 2: losing streak during that season. But we had to have
Speaker 2: some conversation.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Bobby has weight in the room. Because it's funny.
Speaker 1: When we were talking to Dad Quick after the game yesterday,
Speaker 1: he even said, sometimes this doesn't go well when a
Speaker 1: player steps up and speaks and it's either not their
Speaker 1: strength or they don't get the message right. Clearly, it
Speaker 1: worked for whatever Bobby said.
Speaker 2: And one thing that he said is he said Bobby
Speaker 2: doesn't talk all the time, probably all the time to
Speaker 2: the team.
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know him well, but like he seems actually
Speaker 1: a very reserved personality for someone who's been as accomplished
Speaker 1: as Ease.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm sure he talks to the defense, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but in terms of addressing the team and really addressing
Speaker 2: the team in that manner if you don't do it
Speaker 2: all the time, and then for you to come on
Speaker 2: and say, hey, it's time for me to talk and
Speaker 2: address the team. Just the the awareness of him understanding
Speaker 2: where they where they're at in their.
Speaker 3: Season and coach, I got you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, teams and players, they respect him first and foremost
Speaker 2: before he made one single play on this team, one tackle,
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. As soon as he signed
Speaker 2: with this team, he automatically had respect equity built up
Speaker 2: because of all the things he had accomplished in his
Speaker 2: career prior to signing with us.
Speaker 3: So they already he already has their ear.
Speaker 2: But then when he delivers that message, and it's one
Speaker 2: thing to deliver a message and not up your hold
Speaker 2: up your end of the bargain, he delivers a message
Speaker 2: and he holds up his ears at the bargain by
Speaker 2: his play.
Speaker 1: You know, like what signaled to me that this was
Speaker 1: gonna be different, and I didn't know how this would
Speaker 1: work out this year was his signing because this isn't
Speaker 1: messy to the MLS right, he wants to win. He
Speaker 1: didn't come here out of charity. He came here by choice.
Speaker 1: Probably could have retired if he really wanted to. He
Speaker 1: never played on the East Coast, so when he signed here,
Speaker 1: it signaled something to me that he actually believes in
Speaker 1: this coaching staff. Whether he knew what was here and
Speaker 1: what was in front of him, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: that was to me the most significant veteran signing that
Speaker 1: was made. He didn't have to do this, He probably
Speaker 1: had other offers, and when he signed here it meant
Speaker 1: something at least to me about what was being built here.
Speaker 2: And absolutely Bramman, he has two daughters that are still
Speaker 2: out on the West Coast, So for him to come
Speaker 2: all the way across the country be away from his daughters,
Speaker 2: which you know, we're parents and man, we want to
Speaker 2: see our kids every single day. And for him not
Speaker 2: to say, you know what, I believe in what they're
Speaker 2: doing in Washington. I believe in Dad Quinn, I believe
Speaker 2: in and Ken Norton, Junr. I believe in what they're
Speaker 2: building in Washington. I'm going to go all the way
Speaker 2: across the country, leave my daughters all the way on
Speaker 2: the West coast. That says a lot to how he
Speaker 2: felt about this situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and here we are.
Speaker 1: You know, week thirteen, he's already surpassed on hundred tackles,
Speaker 1: so he's brought the standard to play with him. This
Speaker 1: is a position that was weak for this team for
Speaker 1: a number of years. He solidified that even at the
Speaker 1: advanced stage of his career. And obviously everybody knows by
Speaker 1: now like he's done this now thirteen years in a row.
Speaker 1: The only other player in this millennium that has done
Speaker 1: it longer consecutively is you. And I thought we had
Speaker 1: a really really cool moment last night because I thought
Speaker 1: the team pointing this out was great that they did
Speaker 1: that to allow him to kind of get the shine
Speaker 1: for doing what he did yesterday. But having him with
Speaker 1: you in the locker room afterwards was really an amazing moment.
Speaker 1: So take a listen to this right back in the
Speaker 1: locker room with Bobby Wagner. You reached one hundred tackles
Speaker 1: for the thirteenth consecutive season, there's only one other player
Speaker 1: that's done it longer, the guy standing next to you,
Speaker 1: London Fletcher. So let me just start with you, Like,
Speaker 1: what does a milestone like that mean to you?
Speaker 3: It means a lot.
Speaker 4: We're in this jersey, being able to represent somebody like
Speaker 4: this to standing next to me, it's really cool. So
Speaker 4: I'm grateful for this. It's really cool. But I'm really
Speaker 4: grateful for him because I don't remember when I reached
Speaker 4: out to him, but I kind of just reached out
Speaker 4: to him, and I wasn't sure what I was going
Speaker 4: to get or anything, you know, person just randomly reaching out,
Speaker 4: but you know, he showed me so much love, gave
Speaker 4: me so much advice whether to take care of my body,
Speaker 4: whether you know, how to play the game, and you know,
Speaker 4: I'm really grateful and he's definitely the reason why I'm here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobby, as he mentioned, this is probably I think
Speaker 2: it was twenty fourteen, almost ten years ago, man that
Speaker 2: he reached out to me. You know, didn't know him,
Speaker 2: but just wanted to pick my brains. And I was
Speaker 2: actually humble because he was so accomplished at that time
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, but him having enough respect of
Speaker 2: the guys who played before him, Like, I know I
Speaker 2: can still add to my game. One thing about you,
Speaker 2: we knew coming over about the great leadership, But one
Speaker 2: thing that I'm always pointing out is the productivity. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, the leadership is great, but you're still playing
Speaker 2: at the extremely high level. How are you able to
Speaker 2: continue to play at this high level?
Speaker 4: Man? It's just taking care of your body, honestly, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm just remember the conversation because you know, he never
Speaker 4: missed any games in his career, and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: how did somebody do that? And he gave me so
Speaker 4: much advice, and I just tried to implement stuff that
Speaker 4: he did. Like I don't know if you remember, you
Speaker 4: talked about running the sands, so I started running. It
Speaker 4: was a lot of things that he said. He probably
Speaker 4: even know I was writing stuff down. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: if he, you know, was able to play a long
Speaker 4: time at this position without being hurt or anything like that,
Speaker 4: I was gonna do it.
Speaker 3: So I was.
Speaker 4: I was just trying to listen and just let you
Speaker 4: know that I listened.
Speaker 1: So you and Bobby got to share that moment last night,
Speaker 1: and as I learned from you, this relationship kind of
Speaker 1: started years ago.
Speaker 2: It did, it did, and back in twenty nineteen, I've
Speaker 2: been retired with for six years, six seasons then and
Speaker 2: Bobby just code DM me on Twitter it's x.
Speaker 1: Now and it need to get your number.
Speaker 2: Well, so he didn't have my number and we had
Speaker 2: never we had played against each other.
Speaker 3: In the twenty twelve playoffs.
Speaker 2: He was a he was a rookie that year, and
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't know him, and just over the
Speaker 2: course of the years watching this game, watching him play, like, man, this,
Speaker 2: this dude's a hell of a football player. And had
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of respect for his game and the
Speaker 2: way he played and appreciation for him.
Speaker 3: And he reached out to me and you know, say.
Speaker 2: Hey, London, you know love to pick pick your brain
Speaker 2: and chop it up with you to you know, see
Speaker 2: how you were so successful.
Speaker 3: And and for.
Speaker 2: Him to do that for especially for former players, when
Speaker 2: a younger guy reaches out to us, I mean that
Speaker 2: means the world to us because something, you know, he's like, man, this,
Speaker 2: this guy recognizes like I did that. I did the
Speaker 2: same thing to Sam Mills that Bobby did to me.
Speaker 2: I had somebody who had connections to Sam Mills. They
Speaker 2: put me in contact with him. So for for me,
Speaker 2: it was almost just like a full circle moment being
Speaker 2: able to give give back to UH, to Bobby the
Speaker 2: way that Sam had poured into me.
Speaker 3: And so it just this was it.
Speaker 2: This was five years ago, and you know we've we
Speaker 2: had several conversations and you know, just kind of sharing,
Speaker 2: sharing what I felt like helped me improve and what
Speaker 2: I thought improve it. You know, it's just talked about.
Speaker 2: He asked a bunch of questess. He asked, you know,
Speaker 2: how did I train, how did I take care of myself?
Speaker 2: I was sharing with him, you know, my my recovery stuff,
Speaker 2: my training during the off season. Things did have that
Speaker 2: I added to my to my training and my repertoire too,
Speaker 2: especially as I got older in my career, to help
Speaker 2: me play at a higher level. We talked, We talked coverages.
Speaker 2: We talked covered four to quarters coverage, which at that
Speaker 2: point in time, the I think the Seahawks was playing
Speaker 2: a lot of quarters coverage and and I had a
Speaker 2: lot of experience playing that coverage and I was just
Speaker 2: helping talking to him about that. It's funny because UH,
Speaker 2: last year when we played the Seahawks. I ran it
Speaker 2: to him and that was the first time me seeing
Speaker 2: him in person, meeting him in person when we were out.
Speaker 1: There, and because it talked a lot, but you've never
Speaker 1: actually never.
Speaker 3: Had met in person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we never met in person him until last year
Speaker 2: in Seattle when we play and I talked to him
Speaker 2: prior to the game and we talked covered quarters coverage
Speaker 2: again on the field, and I told him, I was like, man,
Speaker 2: you got to make sure you invite me too your
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame ceremony, and uh, you know, as crazy
Speaker 2: as it is as it is now, he's a he's
Speaker 2: a Washington commander.
Speaker 1: Well, if he's going to get to fourteen, which is
Speaker 1: your record, yeah, he's got to resign. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: know a one year deal. I've been trying to extend
Speaker 1: him now, you.
Speaker 3: Know, just assuming he wants to play. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And again, being away from your daughter daughters, being that
Speaker 2: that far away, it can wear on you. So I'm
Speaker 2: sure he'll take his time and really get through the
Speaker 2: emotions of the season and kind of say, you know,
Speaker 2: do I want to do it again? I mean, he's
Speaker 2: still playing at an elite level, high level. They need
Speaker 2: to resign him, I will I'll say this man, we
Speaker 2: knew what he was going to bring it from a
Speaker 2: leadership standpoint, but what people underestimated and overlook was what
Speaker 2: he's what he was bringing it and what he has
Speaker 2: brought from a production standpoint. He still playing at an
Speaker 2: elite level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is, and I really appreciated him. I don't
Speaker 1: think he said it during our interview, but I remember
Speaker 1: he said it during the media scrum after the game,
Speaker 1: that you should be in the Hall of Fame, and that,
Speaker 1: you know, I think everyone assumes that he's going to
Speaker 1: be in the Hall. They talk about it any way,
Speaker 1: but they assume that he's going to be in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, whether it's first ballot or not. And
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Go watch the guy's careers, Champion.
Speaker 1: He's done it with this kind of level of production.
Speaker 1: There's no question you were him too. It's why he
Speaker 1: called you. So, you know, I hope that they listen.
Speaker 1: This is a second time now in a year Devin
Speaker 1: Hester got the jacket, walked up on the stage and
Speaker 1: said Brian Mitchell should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree with that he should be. He's the
Speaker 1: standard bearer of that position, and now the kick returns
Speaker 1: are back, maybe people will start thinking about it differently.
Speaker 1: When you see things that come out the turpins doing
Speaker 1: people like that, you get to see what kind of
Speaker 1: impact he had. You had this impact at that position too.
Speaker 1: It's it's an oversight and I'm hoping that it's gonna
Speaker 1: get changed.
Speaker 2: And what I loved about what what Devin did and
Speaker 2: b Mitch has been retired for I don't know, almost
Speaker 2: twenty years now, for Devin to recognize what b Mitch
Speaker 2: meant to the to the return game and and Devin
Speaker 2: bringing him into the four four during Devn's moment recognizing
Speaker 2: and it's still being being humble enough and be saying,
Speaker 2: you know what, Brian Mitchell should be in the Pro
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame with Bobby you know, becoming thirteen
Speaker 2: consecutive tackles, hundred tackle seasons and me being in the
Speaker 2: mix keeps me relevant, him talking about me and you know,
Speaker 2: saying I should be in the Hall of Famers with
Speaker 2: respect there. And it's for for b Mitch myself. We
Speaker 2: truly appreciate when guys come up and acknowledge what you
Speaker 2: know we did before them in the same way like
Speaker 2: we acknowledge the guys who did it before us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even in my field.
Speaker 1: The second I got the job calling the games for
Speaker 1: this team, the first thing I did was call all
Speaker 1: the major broadcasters that I respect it would listen to me,
Speaker 1: because I just wanted to hear their experiences. I called
Speaker 1: the local ones that I you know, admired, Joe Beninatti,
Speaker 1: Steve Buckants, John waltonm gon To missing the name of
Speaker 1: Johnny Holliday. I called them all and said, what can
Speaker 1: you tell me about this experience? And every time I
Speaker 1: see someone like Iron Eagle or Mike Tarico or anybody,
Speaker 1: I talk to them. I want to know. And it
Speaker 1: sounds like you've done the same thing here that it's
Speaker 1: through the years. Knowledge is power, you know, like knowing
Speaker 1: what the people did before you to get to where
Speaker 1: they were is everything.
Speaker 3: And it sounds like you passed it down to him.
Speaker 1: And I bet he'll do the same for the Fred
Speaker 1: Warners of the world or the great middle linebackers who
Speaker 1: are out there, and.
Speaker 3: He probably has already done it. Yeah, you know you
Speaker 3: for current players.
Speaker 2: You're a young linebacker, young young football player in general,
Speaker 2: and you're not reaching and tapping into the brains of
Speaker 2: these guys who've done it for a multitude of years.
Speaker 1: You're missing out, Yeah, you're missing the education of it.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the game.
Speaker 1: So it worked like whatever he said, whatever the mood was,
Speaker 1: I thought the crowd was into it really big time.
Speaker 1: Flags were good. That was I think the flags. Flag,
Speaker 1: flags went well. Flags at going. The vibe was right.
Speaker 1: The opening drive, they had two penalties immediately, defensively got
Speaker 1: a very quick stop.
Speaker 3: They were in a hole.
Speaker 1: Immediately, Washington gets the ball, walks down the field, scores
Speaker 1: a touchdown immediately, like what dan Quinn was talking about.
Speaker 1: And I've cited this on with the Game with you.
Speaker 1: He is omniscient somewhat. You know, sometimes you hear coaches
Speaker 1: say things and to your point earlier or like sometimes
Speaker 1: it goes in one ear and out the other. When
Speaker 1: he says certain things, I take note of it. And
Speaker 1: last week, late in the week, he said the adversity
Speaker 1: was good for the team, which is one way to
Speaker 1: put it. And then he said, you're gonna see what's
Speaker 1: on the other side, because there's another thing coming here.
Speaker 1: And we saw the team that we saw earlier in
Speaker 1: the season. Show up immediately. I mean, and I felt it,
Speaker 1: and I know you felt it two and the scoreboard
Speaker 1: showed it very quickly. That was that was the best
Speaker 1: start to a game we've had in years.
Speaker 3: Best started.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned that on the broadcast, and and you're
Speaker 2: watching the Hey, the defense get the three down and
Speaker 2: then b Rob breakoff that forty yard run.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: And uh then you get the turnovers and and all
Speaker 2: the things that happened, and it's like Dad knows his
Speaker 2: football team. He said something was coming. He's got the pulse.
Speaker 2: He has the pulse. And a lot of times you
Speaker 2: can sense that based on a practice, based on the meetings,
Speaker 2: you can you can feel the energy of man, these
Speaker 2: guys are really focused. These guys are pissed off. These
Speaker 2: guys are ready to rock. They're ready to go out
Speaker 2: there and have a and play great football. And he
Speaker 2: knew is he knows his football team. And we saw
Speaker 2: that on full displayed yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had said, basically, I think some of
Speaker 1: the was they didn't like the way they started with
Speaker 1: the energy against Dallas. Yeah, and that all of the
Speaker 1: missed opportunities we talked about this last week they had
Speaker 1: a block kick, a block punt, a missed field goal,
Speaker 1: and a fumble recovery and had three points right at halftime.
Speaker 1: That's on you. I mean, they made some of those
Speaker 1: plays happen. Obviously two of them were they blocked a kick,
Speaker 1: they blocked a punt, and they got a fumble. But
Speaker 1: the complimentary side of it was the energy wasn't there
Speaker 1: across the board. He didn't like that. He always consistently says,
Speaker 1: you're gonna like how we get down, not certain portions
Speaker 1: of it, how we do it. And this was a
Speaker 1: full throttle team effort here that started this game against Tennessee,
Speaker 1: and it was an avalanche.
Speaker 2: What I also saw was the it's from my office standpoint,
Speaker 2: them being on attack, them dictating the terms of the agreement.
Speaker 2: I talk all the time, especially on the Players Club podcast,
Speaker 2: which you can check out on our YouTube channel as well.
Speaker 2: It's dictating the terms of the agreement, especially your big guys,
Speaker 2: your guys in the trenches, not negotiating with terrorists.
Speaker 3: We don't make peace treaties.
Speaker 2: This is this type of stuff I'm talking about, and
Speaker 2: it's really about being an attack mole. The offense came
Speaker 2: out in attack mole, getting ball to Terry, really establishing
Speaker 2: a physical presence in the run game, and they were
Speaker 2: moving people off off the line of scrimmage in Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Their number eight ranked run defense in the National Football League,
Speaker 2: number one against the pass. And this was a tough team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that record was not great, but from a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 2: you watched them on film looking at them, I watched them.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, this could be. This would be
Speaker 2: a tough, tough ball game for us. And the way
Speaker 2: that offense came out and perform, the way that offensive
Speaker 2: line set a physical tone, the way they protected Jaden,
Speaker 2: the way he was able to distribute the football. It
Speaker 2: was a full out of tack mo. Maybe against the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily see us in full attack mode the
Speaker 2: way we I think that's what.
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn was talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel the energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah feel us, feel us in attack mode.
Speaker 2: And sometimes you can kind of almost say respect opponent
Speaker 2: a little bit too much, but you gotta realize and say, hey,
Speaker 2: we's some badasses too.
Speaker 3: They got to fear us and respect us too.
Speaker 1: Dallas dominated the line of scrimmage against that they did.
Speaker 1: They did olso O Digizuoa had a terrific game. Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons was in the backfield over and over. There were
Speaker 1: very good time rushes against them that did not happen
Speaker 1: against a defense that's statistically better than the one that
Speaker 1: they faced a week ago. I walked in going, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to run the ball effectively.
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna they're gonna be consistent on it,
Speaker 1: because the coaches had told me they were going to
Speaker 1: stick with it, but with b Rob coming off the ankle,
Speaker 1: it was hard to know what condition he was going
Speaker 1: to really be in. Austin Eckler obviously wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be able to play, and the offensive line had been
Speaker 1: beat up, and Andrew Wiley wasn't playing like I didn't
Speaker 1: expect them to run the ball effectively. I expected them
Speaker 1: to run the ball a lot, but they didn't expect
Speaker 1: them to do what they did. To have two sixty
Speaker 1: seven on the ground is a real testament to be
Speaker 1: Robs fine. And secondarily, the offensive line really took what
Speaker 1: happened personally. They're the group. They took it really personally.
Speaker 1: This was the closest thing to the early part of
Speaker 1: the season we saw from them collectively. To control the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage that way.
Speaker 2: Now, you're absolutely right about the offensive line taking personally
Speaker 2: and when you have a bad game, which I mean
Speaker 2: they they had a bad game against the Tennessee Titan.
Speaker 2: It was not their best Brandon football, and you're not
Speaker 2: happy with the way you performed. A lot of guys
Speaker 2: that you know have played well force during the season
Speaker 2: just didn't have good games from the offensive line standpoint.
Speaker 2: And those guys, they they had to sit on that
Speaker 2: for for a week and they I'm sure they, you know,
Speaker 2: they's like, you know what, I don't want to feel
Speaker 2: like that again. And we're gonna show, uh, We're gonna
Speaker 2: show the Tennessee Titans. What we saw against the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 2: that's not us. What we you know saw during the
Speaker 2: game against the Philadelphia Eagles, that's not us. So you
Speaker 2: go out and you you set a second set a
Speaker 2: physical tone.
Speaker 3: You mentioned b Rob.
Speaker 2: I thought with him showing up and practicing on on
Speaker 2: Wednesdays practice, you and I were out of the practice
Speaker 2: during the open availability and when I saw b Rob
Speaker 2: out there taking handoffs, I was shot first and foremost
Speaker 2: that he was on the football field, because you know
Speaker 2: he wasn't able to finish the game Sunday against the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: you had you had to assume, like, uh, is he
Speaker 2: going to be Is he going to be able to play?
Speaker 2: This will have to be something we monitor towards the
Speaker 2: end of the week. But for him to not miss
Speaker 2: a practice and may he was limited a little bit,
Speaker 2: but for him to be out there, that also sent
Speaker 2: the message to his team saying, hey, guys, I'm here
Speaker 2: for you. I'm ready to fight. I'm not missing this game.
Speaker 2: Were in the three game loser week. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: out there. I may not be one hundred percent, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you everything I got. And that went
Speaker 2: a lot a long way to me. Just watching him
Speaker 2: out on that practice field, I'm like, man, this he
Speaker 2: gets it and that's gonna resonator too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think, like we talked earlier about Bobby Wagner, right,
Speaker 1: and like so he spoke up.
Speaker 3: He said something.
Speaker 1: I think he leads by example, mainly to everyone's point,
Speaker 1: like he doesn't do that very often. He did it,
Speaker 1: but he felt it was necessary. I think be Rob similar.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like he's the most talkative guy. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna stand up speak his mind all that often,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna show you by example.
Speaker 3: And you're seeing this.
Speaker 1: I know it killed him to miss those games earlier
Speaker 1: this year in a couple of occasions, they held him
Speaker 1: out for what they thought was in his own best
Speaker 1: interest to not harm himself. He liked that, so he
Speaker 1: and I think we all know this, And Quinn said this,
Speaker 1: b Rob. When he's going there's an emotional lift to
Speaker 1: the way he plays. It's just the way he plays.
Speaker 1: I describe it as gas in the tank, like he
Speaker 1: finishes runs. He embodies I think what they want in
Speaker 1: their players here.
Speaker 3: He is tough, and when he's.
Speaker 1: Coming at you, especially in the second half of the lead,
Speaker 1: nobody wants anything.
Speaker 3: To do with it. Yeah. Yeah, sixteen Carris over one
Speaker 3: hundred yards Its sea Rob, Chris. That's an amazing Chris Rodriguez.
Speaker 2: He finished that game. Man, what thirteen k's what ninety
Speaker 2: four yards?
Speaker 1: He wasn't on the roster a week ago. He's been
Speaker 1: called up and down multiple times. Practice, squad roster, practicequad roster.
Speaker 1: Hat a very good game in New York, remember playing
Speaker 1: that one. Finish that one out right? He was off
Speaker 1: the roster. Then Austin Eckler gets hurt, it was logical
Speaker 1: to call him back, bring him back in. You gotta wonder,
Speaker 1: like where is someone's head when they go up and
Speaker 1: down on the roster all year long. Well, he showed
Speaker 1: up for this team on Sunday too and really finished
Speaker 1: the game out physical running up the middle of the.
Speaker 3: Field, physical runner. Man.
Speaker 2: We're watching those Tennessee Ties defenders just bounce off of
Speaker 2: sea rob Man. He I love the kid. I love
Speaker 2: watching them. I really liked watching them a season ago.
Speaker 2: You look at him coming out of Kentucky, didn't know
Speaker 2: a whole lot about him Kentucky football. You think more
Speaker 2: of basketball when you think Kentucky. But watching him once
Speaker 2: we drafted him, looking at his film like love, loved
Speaker 2: how he finished the finish, his runs, just power back.
Speaker 3: Then this year he was on our active rouster all year.
Speaker 3: This year had to you.
Speaker 2: Know, didn't make the fifty three out of training camp,
Speaker 2: all the practice squad gets caught up. As you mentioned
Speaker 2: Boson back and forth, him even giving up his his
Speaker 2: jersey number two. Yeah by Sean Latimar, Like, man, I
Speaker 2: don't need any money here.
Speaker 3: You can you can have this.
Speaker 2: You've accomplished so much so his his amility, and Chris
Speaker 2: Man just I'm so happy for him for him to
Speaker 2: have the type of game that he had and being
Speaker 2: able to play the way he played.
Speaker 1: The numbers are stunning. I mean the time of possession,
Speaker 1: they doubled them in time of possession. They had twenty
Speaker 1: nine first downs. They had four hundred and sixty three
Speaker 1: total yards. And I know people look at the record
Speaker 1: and they think, well, they just beat a bad team
Speaker 1: that teams a number two defense in the NFL. They
Speaker 1: had given up one hundred and six rush yards per
Speaker 1: game at four yards per carry. Washington had surpassed that
Speaker 1: by the end of the first quarter against them. This
Speaker 1: is with without their right tackle, with a beat up
Speaker 1: offensive line, and a running back that we weren't sure
Speaker 1: was going to play, and their second best running back
Speaker 1: on ir right. So like, this is to me the
Speaker 1: best offensive performance. I don't know by far, because I'd
Speaker 1: say the Cincinnati one and the Arizona ones are worth
Speaker 1: looking back at, but those feel like a year ago
Speaker 1: now considering where we are in the season, this is
Speaker 1: reminiscent of that, and I would argue it's the best
Speaker 1: offensive performance of the season.
Speaker 2: I you all get it. You all get an argue
Speaker 2: argument for me on that. I think when you when
Speaker 2: you put in context, coming off with three game losing
Speaker 2: streak going into this game, and how the offense had
Speaker 2: performed during those three games lose doing this three game
Speaker 2: losing streak, not not clicking on all cylinders, not being
Speaker 2: the high powered offense had we had grown accustomed to
Speaker 2: for the majority of the season. Also going against a
Speaker 2: tightest defense that was so stout against the run, so
Speaker 2: stout against the pass well regardless, highly regarded throughout the NFL,
Speaker 2: and how they how many problems they caused for offenses.
Speaker 2: When you add all those those three things together, I
Speaker 2: think it was the best offensive performance of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jayden twenty five of thirty. So this is the
Speaker 1: first time since that early part of the season that
Speaker 1: he's over eighty percent completion hit over ninety against Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: So it's hard to kind of compare that one.
Speaker 3: That one, and it was a Monday night football on
Speaker 3: a row.
Speaker 1: That was the one when we went we might have
Speaker 1: a unicorn like when they did that. Then he turned
Speaker 1: around and had the game against Arizona. He was completing
Speaker 1: over eighty percent of his throws through the first month
Speaker 1: of the season, which was really unprecedented in historic, and
Speaker 1: we were kind of talking about he might be the
Speaker 1: best rookie quarterback ever because that's how his season actually started.
Speaker 1: This was reminiscent of that, which leads me to believe
Speaker 1: the rib injury was significant. It hindered him. He said
Speaker 1: nothing about it, He never used it as an excuse.
Speaker 1: He listened to people talk about it, and kind of
Speaker 1: like b Rob, he let his actions speak louder than
Speaker 1: his words. Because the last two weeks he is clearly healthier,
Speaker 1: feeling like himself, moving like he did early in the season,
Speaker 1: and yesterday pinpoint accurate again with the exception of one
Speaker 1: or two throws, the one that was a little high
Speaker 1: to Ertz that ended up getting intercepted, and one or
Speaker 1: two other misses, but again he was back to where
Speaker 1: he was, which leads me to believe he played significantly
Speaker 1: hurt for probably about a month.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you don't. You have a rib injury,
Speaker 2: especially the one like he had. It's not a hey,
Speaker 2: you have one week, you know between the injury and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're you're fine. Those rib injuries,
Speaker 2: I've I've dealt with them several times in my career,
Speaker 2: it's four to six weeks that you're dealing with that.
Speaker 3: You have trouble.
Speaker 2: Sleeping, breathing, laughing, all that type stuff. It constantly hurts him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you'll get better. I won't even say day by day,
Speaker 2: maybe week by week. You'll get better, but you won't
Speaker 2: be fully functioned on totally healed. Especially he's he was
Speaker 2: continuing to play, continue to take hits to know that area. He's,
Speaker 2: the position he plays, he's going to be exposed to.
Speaker 2: His ribs are going to be exposed because of him.
Speaker 2: You know the position that he plays, So he may
Speaker 2: be he may have suffered slight setbacks in terms from
Speaker 2: a healing standpoint. You get you get hit again, that
Speaker 2: may set you back a couple days from a healing process.
Speaker 2: So you see the difference that from a just of
Speaker 2: the electricity in his legs, the ways the ways moving,
Speaker 2: the way he's throwing and stepping into his throws, stuff
Speaker 2: like that. You definitely know that that ten days off
Speaker 2: between the game against the Eagles and the Cowboys, he
Speaker 2: definitely needed that and appreciate I mean rest.
Speaker 1: We were saying it before the Pittsburgh game, this team
Speaker 1: needed to buy you can just tell like they needed it,
Speaker 1: and that's a long time man. That's why that stretch
Speaker 1: was so difficult. That they hit two really really good teams.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is probably gonna win their division, Philadelphia who probably is.
Speaker 1: We need them to go on some kind of losing
Speaker 1: streak that they don't look like they're intending to do it.
Speaker 2: They might be the number of eight, might end up
Speaker 2: being a number one seed in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's very possible right now, that they're gonna end
Speaker 1: up that way. Those are the teams we played in
Speaker 1: a four day span, one of them on the road
Speaker 1: with a team that needed to buy and was beat up,
Speaker 1: including the quarterback who was still injured. We got to
Speaker 1: the other side of it. The Dallas one is hard
Speaker 1: to take because I think it's the one that got
Speaker 1: away from them, But it was the sign that Jayden
Speaker 1: is starting to look like the guy that we saw
Speaker 1: early in the season and manifested again yesterday. He looked
Speaker 1: like that quarterback at the beginning of the year, and
Speaker 1: now with an extra week off. Now it's what really
Speaker 1: gives me the hope that a late season run is
Speaker 1: about to begin. If he's gonna play like this, they're
Speaker 1: going to be extraordinarily difficult to beat.
Speaker 3: No, without a doubt.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned the game against the Steelers game, the
Speaker 2: game against the Eagles Pittsburg what nine in what's they recognized?
Speaker 3: Nine and two, nine and.
Speaker 2: Three, nine and three loosen up at one point had
Speaker 2: still controversial spot, controversial spot.
Speaker 1: Contri spot a jump off side otherwise it would have
Speaker 1: got the ball back.
Speaker 3: So there's the the Philly game.
Speaker 2: It's a twelve ten game, been over the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: We go for on that fourth, fourth and two. They
Speaker 3: had a bad three minute stretch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yes, that could end up being a different
Speaker 2: type of ball cup, different outcome. So we've gone toe
Speaker 2: to toe with two of the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It was Baltimore too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as you mentioned the Dallas loss, considering what
Speaker 2: Dallas's record was, and I'll say this, Dallas is better
Speaker 2: than what their record in the case as well. They're
Speaker 2: five and seven right now. They're a better football team.
Speaker 1: They won thirty six games in three years. That's a
Speaker 1: good roster. Yeah, they have a lot of injuries, a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries. They're very different. They started getting some
Speaker 1: people back on defense. I do feel like they're no excuses.
Speaker 1: That's the one that got away this year. Of the
Speaker 1: losses they've had this year, that's the one that got.
Speaker 2: Awa, especially when you look at all of the opportunities
Speaker 2: we had in the first half of that Yes, with
Speaker 2: the turnovers, the field position all.
Speaker 1: That team's going home with their tabletreeing their legs if
Speaker 1: you get up on them early, because that's what's happened
Speaker 1: to them over the previous five weeks.
Speaker 2: It's a twenty eight have a game like we had
Speaker 2: against the Test. Besides, if we take advantage of the opportunities.
Speaker 1: I agree, all right to other people on offense, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. One is Cliff Kingsbury, because
Speaker 1: he spent the week listening to that. These guys they
Speaker 1: got to stop telling us they don't listen to outside noise.
Speaker 1: Yes they do, Okay, yes they do. Stop lying.
Speaker 3: You know you do.
Speaker 1: Because the narratives popped up on him. Everyone looked back
Speaker 1: at the records that occurred in Arizona, right where annually
Speaker 1: in December there's a dip in the offense. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is a different quarterback in a different place with a
Speaker 1: different team, no offense to Kyler Murray, like just because
Speaker 1: and the dip was not as prominent as people were
Speaker 1: making it out to be.
Speaker 3: But they saw.
Speaker 1: What they didn't see was the unprecedented stuff that was
Speaker 1: happening early right, which there was no chance on earth
Speaker 1: that that was going to continue at that rate. But
Speaker 1: because it wasn't as good, there was a narrative that
Speaker 1: was built. Right, don't tell me he didn't hear this,
Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, Terry's moving around James looking good,
Speaker 1: He's in his bag starting with all these secondary targets again,
Speaker 1: and the offense looked really different this week.
Speaker 2: Here, I'm a squash up. Let you all on a
Speaker 2: little known secret. We hear those thieves, We definitely hear
Speaker 2: those things. You can't help but here, because either you
Speaker 2: wanna hear personally or somebody who's close to you is
Speaker 2: gonna let you know what's being said, you'll you'll hear
Speaker 2: those criticism.
Speaker 3: And and we're all.
Speaker 2: We all have egos, we all have we want to
Speaker 2: be viewed as as some of the best of what
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 3: We don't want our work criticized. And it was just like, hey,
Speaker 3: it just made sense.
Speaker 2: We're let's move Terry round, Let's figure out how to
Speaker 2: get him the football and and it's not just about Terry.
Speaker 2: Then when you move him around, that opens up other guys,
Speaker 2: that opens up the offense. That that that's the the
Speaker 2: wares Waldough type of scenario that we used to have
Speaker 2: when we were playing like a Jason Witten or you know,
Speaker 2: a t O or somebody like that, like where when
Speaker 2: he lines up a certain different places, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Ad tennis? Shit go up?
Speaker 2: So it was it was interesting very first player, the
Speaker 2: gay Terry lies up on the right side. They throw
Speaker 2: a quick hitch. It was like, okay, so Cliff, he
Speaker 2: heard you. He was he was in the slot. They
Speaker 2: lined him up in the slot, They lined him up
Speaker 2: at number three on the right side. They lined him
Speaker 2: up in a bunch of different places. The touchdown that
Speaker 2: he caught, the second touchdown he called on the right
Speaker 2: side goes in motion deep over and he was the
Speaker 2: he was a third read on that play.
Speaker 1: But again moving him around, yeah, moving him around. So
Speaker 1: for Kingsbury too, I don't know where you were on
Speaker 1: the unlocking Terry part of it, but where I landed
Speaker 1: on it going in was earlier in the season. What
Speaker 1: was really telling about the offense was how they were executing,
Speaker 1: but the ball was and I thought it was. It
Speaker 1: was really interesting when Jade Daniels was asked about Terry
Speaker 1: McClain going into the game, and he basically just shrugged
Speaker 1: and said, listen, he's a great player.
Speaker 3: We know that.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna put the ball where the defense basically
Speaker 1: tells me.
Speaker 3: To put the ball.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm not just going to force it to anybody.
Speaker 1: If the defense says you got to throw it here,
Speaker 1: well that's where I'm going to throw it. That's what
Speaker 1: you want your quarterback to do. This one then went
Speaker 1: back to Cliff where we go, all right, then you
Speaker 1: need to scheme it up to where the defense wants
Speaker 1: you to throw it to Terry or demands you to
Speaker 1: throw it to Terry. And secondarily what was lost to
Speaker 1: me and it lost the wrong word, but like what
Speaker 1: had changed was some of the secondary targets. Alamine's a
Speaker 1: Kias really comes to mind with this, Diami Brown to
Speaker 1: a certain degree, Luke McCaffrey, their targets were way down,
Speaker 1: like over the last month. To me to unlock Terry,
Speaker 1: the offense needed to be as diverse as it was
Speaker 1: earlier in the season, and the defenses needed to take
Speaker 1: those guys, I think more seriously than they had over
Speaker 1: the last few weeks. So some of this I thought
Speaker 1: was moving Terry around, and some of it was if
Speaker 1: you're gonna try to take Terry away, we're gonna hurt
Speaker 1: you with somebody else. That's right, I landed on it.
Speaker 3: Now, you're right about that.
Speaker 2: I like them, especially with a young quarterback, for Jaden
Speaker 2: to say, hey, the defense is gonna dictate where I
Speaker 2: go with the football. You don't want to have a
Speaker 2: young quarterback getting in a situation where you're telling them, hey,
Speaker 2: throw this ball here, throw this ball here, throw this
Speaker 2: ball here, because that's when you get into the situation
Speaker 2: where you're turning the football over, you're having incompletions, things
Speaker 2: like that. So that's the right messaging to have with
Speaker 2: a young quarterback. Now, you played Tom Brady, Peyton Manney.
Speaker 2: You know some of the season quarterbacks who had they've
Speaker 2: been in the trench, has been in these battles, and
Speaker 2: there they can say, hey, I know the coverage is
Speaker 2: saying hey I should go over here, but let me
Speaker 2: I know how to manipulate the defense to go to.
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 2: I know how to get to a Randy More, I
Speaker 2: can do some things to manipulate to cover stuff like that.
Speaker 2: He's a young quarterback. He's not to that level yet.
Speaker 2: I'll say this, though you talk about the targets, those
Speaker 2: guys also had to win more and take advantage of
Speaker 2: the opportunities to catch the football when it was throwing
Speaker 2: to him, because again, if they're producing, it's gonna help
Speaker 2: help the office in general. Those guys during the stretch,
Speaker 2: they weren't playing at the level that they needed to
Speaker 2: play it.
Speaker 1: It was interesting too, like all the narratives on Cliff
Speaker 1: like going into the game, if you looked at them,
Speaker 1: there's still a top ten offensive yards. They were top
Speaker 1: five in scoring, number three in total points. That people
Speaker 1: were asking a question like what's wrong with the offense?
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there going what's wrong with the offense?
Speaker 1: Like it hasn't been as good as it was? It
Speaker 1: took a dip for a few weeks. The quarterback was hurt,
Speaker 1: the offensive line was beat up. They were missing people
Speaker 1: every single week. These guys are all on the injury list,
Speaker 1: b Rob miss games, No kidding, They're not scoring forty
Speaker 1: points a game right now, Like give it a minute,
Speaker 1: right and so I was actually happy for Cliff because
Speaker 1: I know he was hearing it and then everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: makes up this narrative that what happened in Arizona's going
Speaker 1: to happen here, and I was happy for him that
Speaker 1: it turned out the way that it did that yesterday.
Speaker 2: As well, Man, it's time, it's time you want to
Speaker 2: give it out the belt?
Speaker 3: Yeah, time for the belt. It's time of the belt, man.
Speaker 4: And now it's time for the Big Fletch Heavyweight Commander Championship.
Speaker 1: I think we've already kind of hinted who it might
Speaker 1: be going to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ah, it's been a while since we've gave it
Speaker 2: give it out the belt, Okay, big Big Fletcher's heavyweight
Speaker 2: command this championship belt, and we only give this out
Speaker 2: during wins. And the ranted champion guy who still had
Speaker 2: the belt was a Dante Fowler that was.
Speaker 3: So long ago.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't even know what what game was that
Speaker 2: that he even got the belt in a month ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll figure that out.
Speaker 2: But the contender is going to be Terry McLaurin. There
Speaker 2: was a couple of guys that that that I thought
Speaker 2: about is from contendent standpoint, Ja Jaden was up for
Speaker 2: consideration in that uh b Rob b Rob was in consideration.
Speaker 2: I even thought about Chris Rodriguez. Defensively, Dante Fowler, Okay,
Speaker 2: he had in the ball game two tackles, one TfL.
Speaker 2: He had a sack and then the NFL ended up
Speaker 2: taking it away from him. We'll see what happens whether
Speaker 2: they're gonna give him that sack or not. And if
Speaker 2: he does, you know that that that could change some things. However,
Speaker 2: I'll say this about a Foler. He had an impact
Speaker 2: on two plays right after the interception where he helped
Speaker 2: keep the tits office.
Speaker 3: That by him, and he makes tremendous plays the.
Speaker 2: Challenge Terry eight receptions, eight targets, seventy three yards.
Speaker 3: It's a touching.
Speaker 1: I think the fan the fans agree with you here too,
Speaker 1: because they were chanting his name from quarter one yesterday.
Speaker 1: It was like Mike Tyson Walker in fight. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: the Terry chants.
Speaker 2: That were going on so the fast they knew they
Speaker 2: were all just something. So with that being said, and do.
Speaker 3: Big fletch combat this heavyweight champion.
Speaker 2: Ty Till Terry Terry.
Speaker 3: We got a new belt. He deserved to champion.
Speaker 1: Eight on eight targets. Yeah, seventy three yards nine point
Speaker 1: one average, two touchdowns. I did the math on him,
Speaker 1: like he had had more than six targets in a
Speaker 1: game in about seven eight weeks, and then I think
Speaker 1: to the point of like getting him going early in
Speaker 1: three of the last four coming into this game, he
Speaker 1: had two targets or less in three of the last four.
Speaker 1: So they had to get him going. He's their best playmaker.
Speaker 1: You have to get him going.
Speaker 2: They had to. And think about Terry Man. He's so
Speaker 2: just humble, doesn't most number one receivers. Him and Santana
Speaker 2: Moss are. I've been around a lot of number one receivers.
Speaker 2: Those guys are just like they don't complain. They don't
Speaker 2: go to the offensive coordinator. They're not yelling at their
Speaker 2: quarterback like you've seen it. We've all seen it where
Speaker 2: on the TV copy they'll show a receiver slamming his head,
Speaker 2: slamming his helmet on the ground, you know, being demonstrative,
Speaker 2: showing up their quarterback, showing up the offensive coordinator, showing
Speaker 2: up the receivers coach, Hey get me the ball. I'm
Speaker 2: open cussing out everybody. Those two guys be number one guys.
Speaker 3: They don't do that.
Speaker 2: And Terry hasn't complained about you know, games where whether
Speaker 2: you only had one target, two cargets, whatever the case
Speaker 2: may be. He just wants to win football games and
Speaker 2: he knows, you know, he can impact games. So I'm
Speaker 2: happy for him.
Speaker 1: I just I want to go back to the crowd
Speaker 1: for a moment, because they were as locked in as
Speaker 1: I remember, like they knew the storylines right. They wanted
Speaker 1: Terry to get the ball early. The second he guy
Speaker 1: that they're chanting his name. They came and brought it
Speaker 1: on the first possession and caused two false start penalties
Speaker 1: against Tennessee. They knew that this team needed to start better.
Speaker 1: They were part of They were a twelfth man.
Speaker 3: They were the uh, the energy of the crowd.
Speaker 2: You think a game like this, this just goes to
Speaker 2: show a year ago, two years, three years ago, you
Speaker 2: know that that stadium would have been half empty. So
Speaker 2: for the state the fans to be out and droves
Speaker 2: to come out and support the team the way they
Speaker 2: supported the team and realizing and saying, hey, we need
Speaker 2: to help cheer our team to victory.
Speaker 3: Impact.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, the two falalse Star penalties that the
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans had to start their drive up. They went
Speaker 2: from first to ten. They were second and third and
Speaker 2: twenty It.
Speaker 1: Was like third and twenty two on the first drive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they they classically lost their minds. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, the thing snowballed on them, but Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: at eight carries, which I don't know if you've watched
Speaker 1: us play this year, but that's on you guys to
Speaker 1: figure out how running the ball eleven times over the
Speaker 1: course of a game was going to make any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 1: They played right into Washington's hands. Like I know, people
Speaker 1: think that Washington's pass defense isn't great. Yeah, their top
Speaker 1: ten pass defense. It's the run defense. It's been a problem.
Speaker 1: And Tennessee the score got away from them, and then
Speaker 1: they got away from the run and they were playing
Speaker 1: right into Washington's hands.
Speaker 3: The whole way it was.
Speaker 2: And you know the Parlor had that fumble earlier that
Speaker 2: that kind of helped help also get us another touchdown
Speaker 2: put us ahead of them. And you mentioned the score
Speaker 2: getting away from them, but at one point it was
Speaker 2: twenty eight ten, So now the run game could be
Speaker 2: a part.
Speaker 1: Of the They got twenty eight thirteen. It was the
Speaker 1: third quarter, and I'm like, I turned you and I go,
Speaker 1: this is two score.
Speaker 3: Game, right right right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could get the get the run game back
Speaker 2: into into the mix. But the defense, to their credit,
Speaker 2: I thought they did an excellent job not allowing Tony
Speaker 2: to have those explosive type of runs, which he he
Speaker 2: had been doing. He had a he had what one
Speaker 2: hundred and nineteen yards and a week ago against the
Speaker 2: Houston Texas, and he's an explosive player.
Speaker 3: He broke tackles, he.
Speaker 2: Made people miss, but they didn't allow him to get gone,
Speaker 2: allows to really get going either.
Speaker 1: No, I thought they did a very good job unsettling him.
Speaker 1: He's someone that holds the ball a little too long,
Speaker 1: is apt to make mistakes early in the season, kind
Speaker 1: of like low light cartoonish type turnovers. He hadn't had
Speaker 1: those in recent weeks, but over the last few weeks
Speaker 1: since he got the starting job back, his passer rating
Speaker 1: was like one ten. He was coming off a jue
Speaker 1: seventy five to two touchdown game and a win over Houston,
Speaker 1: like he was playing his best ball, and Washington's defense
Speaker 1: really unsettled him early and often in that game.
Speaker 2: I was one of the things that I noticed, even
Speaker 2: in these these three games where his his QB rating
Speaker 2: was a lot higher rating a lot higher, he had
Speaker 2: been sacked twenty times. You mentioned him hold on to
Speaker 2: the football for a long period of time. He was
Speaker 2: a lot of times he was. You take away his
Speaker 2: first read if it wasn't there. His natural inclination was
Speaker 2: to look the bill from the procket. He wasn't going
Speaker 2: to go through progressions, especially if you're playing his own covers.
Speaker 2: That really hurt him in terms of not wanting to
Speaker 2: throw footballs into tight windows. There were there were times
Speaker 2: where he did that against us. We had we had
Speaker 2: him on a on a sack on a third and
Speaker 2: I think twenty play and he was able to avoid
Speaker 2: that and he hit he had really right before the
Speaker 2: half that that got that allowed them to get there
Speaker 2: their first points to the ball game that touchdown eventually.
Speaker 3: But think about will Levis.
Speaker 2: He does hold on to the ball a long period
Speaker 2: of time, and that's something they're gonna have to coach
Speaker 2: about of him. You're gonna have to be able to
Speaker 2: if he's one thing, to hold on to the ball,
Speaker 2: but at least be hold on to the ball and
Speaker 2: making quicker decisions, going to your reads a lot quicker,
Speaker 2: and you.
Speaker 3: Know, but he did.
Speaker 2: He did have a couple of nice throws too, where
Speaker 2: it's like he layered the football over some some defenders
Speaker 2: and made some nice throws. And so there were there were.
Speaker 2: He had a couple of moments in that game, but
Speaker 2: not enough, not enough to win.
Speaker 1: Frankie Louvou Dante Fowler if they may have taken a
Speaker 1: sack away because of a play, but they're both right
Speaker 1: on the cusp of nine plus sacks, so they both
Speaker 1: could end up double digit sacks.
Speaker 3: Easily by the end of the season.
Speaker 1: The last time that's happened nine plus is twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: Ryan Carrigan and Trent Murphy. So remember at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the year when everybody said, where's pass rush couldna
Speaker 1: come from? Where the sacks could come from? They don't
Speaker 1: have prominent pass rushers, obvious like double digit sack guys.
Speaker 1: Joe Whitten Company had figured it out.
Speaker 3: They have, and they figured it out through a scheming up. Guys.
Speaker 2: You know, bring in bringing five a lot, blitzing Frankie
Speaker 2: and Bobby through the through the a gaps and doing
Speaker 2: some what you call Cross Dogs and and.
Speaker 3: Dante Foler.
Speaker 2: They mentioned the work that he's done with Ryan Carrigan
Speaker 2: and how Ryan Kerrigan, who you just talked about my formertainment,
Speaker 2: who was just just a great pro franchise all time
Speaker 2: leader in sacks taught, is teaching him and really emphasizes
Speaker 2: how to finish on a quarterback, how to continue to ban,
Speaker 2: how to do those things. And you know, followers, followers
Speaker 2: been tremendous, you know for us, and there was some
Speaker 2: concern like, Okay, who's gonna be Yeah, the pass rusher,
Speaker 2: and those two guys have have done it consistently throughout
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 1: When they signed him, you know, because we played him
Speaker 1: in Dallas under that defense for the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: Like he's a dangerous player, but he's a situational player.
Speaker 1: Not for this team. He's been a full time dangerous
Speaker 1: pass rusher for them, probably a little more out of
Speaker 1: necessity that they need to maybe the Dallas Dallas has
Speaker 1: uh they had George Armstrong and they had DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: and they had Micah Parsons. They didn't need him out
Speaker 1: on the field as often as this team needs him
Speaker 1: out on the field.
Speaker 2: But he has really stepped up this year. The injury situation.
Speaker 2: I think Pharaoh was injured and Drin smised a couple
Speaker 2: of games, if a memory serves me correctly, So that
Speaker 2: aided in Dante playing a lot more snaps than he
Speaker 2: did a season ago with Dallas. But also it's just
Speaker 2: one thing to play a lot more snaps, but what
Speaker 2: are you doing with those STAPs? And he took advantage
Speaker 2: those STAPs and he was making an impact. He's it
Speaker 2: was games man at one point, what it was, seven
Speaker 2: or eight sacks in seven games. Yeah, so just like constantly,
Speaker 2: and even even yesterday.
Speaker 1: And he was hurt early and these people forget this part.
Speaker 3: The end of camp. He was hurt a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think it took him a couple of weeks to
Speaker 1: feel healthy before he got into the season.
Speaker 3: And even yesterday he made impactful plays. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't get the sack, he took one away
Speaker 2: from him, but he still had an impact on the game.
Speaker 1: I've been work shopping nicknames for him.
Speaker 3: So we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'll let you off work shot. I got watch for him.
Speaker 2: Watch watch you mention them here, I'll give you lets.
Speaker 2: I'll give you one. Well, I only have really one
Speaker 2: that I like. The others I didn't like so much.
Speaker 2: This is one I've been working on Louvu too. We
Speaker 2: gotta get a nickname for him. He's really for Fowler,
Speaker 2: so like you never know where he's coming from, right,
Speaker 2: Like he's come.
Speaker 1: Up the middle of round, kind of like I kind
Speaker 1: of got you. Yeah, he's always like he's in your nightmares.
Speaker 1: He's always going to show up somewhere when you least
Speaker 1: expect it. He's the Boogeyman. So that's what I've been
Speaker 1: work shopping on him. But you know, I want him
Speaker 1: to like that before I would actually use it. So
Speaker 1: I'm actually glad we're doing this here because, like I see,
Speaker 1: he's like the guy who you never know where he's
Speaker 1: coming from. He just kind of shows up. Sometimes we're
Speaker 1: calling these plays, I can't believe he's where he is,
Speaker 1: Like when he shows up and makes the play on
Speaker 1: the quarterback.
Speaker 2: You say this for Fouler Fowler, Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 2: more suitable for So.
Speaker 1: I think Louvu there's some kind of like lightning quickness
Speaker 1: thing that fits more for him. So I've been thinking
Speaker 1: about him too. But there's something that like there's something
Speaker 1: about like the energy and the lightning that I want
Speaker 1: to like lean into. I like the Boogeyman for Fowler.
Speaker 1: You just never know where he's coming. He's in your nightmares.
Speaker 1: You don't know where he's coming from.
Speaker 2: Let's let's let the uh the viewers chime man, yeah
Speaker 2: and they hate it. Tell me we all like the Boogeyman. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Boogeyman for follow Yeah. And if you can't, what
Speaker 2: nickname would you give?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We need a good one.
Speaker 1: There's something about his quickness though that I want to
Speaker 1: come and the energy he brings that I want to
Speaker 1: kind of lean into it.
Speaker 3: I haven't found anything I like yet, so have to
Speaker 3: see what he takes. Suggestions though, question for you, you
Speaker 3: you're a smart guy. Thank you. The Alchemists. What would
Speaker 3: that be appropriate for? Like Alchemists? I just want to
Speaker 3: say that, Yeah, you're familiar with the book Alchemists. Yeah?
Speaker 1: What what was the guy who mixes the formulas and
Speaker 1: comes out with the whatever serum that kills everybody? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see alchemist. Maybe that sounds more like dan Quinn.
Speaker 3: Together like Cakesbury. That seems like a coaching one. We'll
Speaker 3: put that one it all right?
Speaker 1: So, uh, we hit the bye week I think I
Speaker 1: think it goes without saying they needed to win. It
Speaker 1: feels really good the way they won.
Speaker 3: Sure like that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a I was gonna be happy with
Speaker 1: no style points. Let's just end this losing streak, get
Speaker 1: back on track. Everybody feel good about themselves. Well, this
Speaker 1: is different. This feels like the week four Commanders as
Speaker 1: opposed to the one that's been kind of getting through
Speaker 1: the last month or so. So it feels really good
Speaker 1: as they turned the corner here. What's important for them
Speaker 1: over the next week as they take a little time off.
Speaker 2: You'll continue to get healthy this this week. I'm assuming
Speaker 2: the guys will have the majority of the week off.
Speaker 2: But Steel stayed locked in as much as possible to
Speaker 2: take take some time get away from it.
Speaker 3: But I understand when you come back, don't don't.
Speaker 2: Look at it as, hey, we got a we got
Speaker 2: a four game run, all these types of things. Look
Speaker 2: at it as let's prepare to go into a hostile
Speaker 2: environment against New Orleans Saints. First and foremost, how can
Speaker 2: we continue to build off what we just had, what
Speaker 2: we just did against the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3: Can we take this show on the road, And what are.
Speaker 2: The things we we had a great we had a
Speaker 2: great outing office. Defensively, you know some things we need
Speaker 2: to show up from a special team standpoint, and there's
Speaker 2: some things that even within the win, that we can
Speaker 2: do better. Yeah that's uh, let's sharpen, sharpen our tools.
Speaker 2: Get ready to go down to New Orleans. They're gonna
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a tough environment. And take that game
Speaker 2: that we just had a Tennessee against the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 2: and build upon that against a New Orleans Saints team
Speaker 2: that are they're gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: I would like to see how they think about kick
Speaker 1: returns now that Eckler's out for at least a few
Speaker 1: more weeks, because he's been extremely productive on kick returns.
Speaker 1: He was top five, averaging almost thirty yards per return.
Speaker 1: They were getting pretty good field position. Yesterday was a
Speaker 1: sign of they miss him. So I want to see
Speaker 1: how they think about kick returns moving forward here as
Speaker 1: well over the last month of the season. That's one
Speaker 1: thing to probably look at and try to improve because
Speaker 1: the field position on the traditional kickoffs wasn't as good
Speaker 1: as it had been with Eckler, who had been exceptional
Speaker 1: in this New kickoff, Phil go field goal kicker.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know Zang Gonzalez.
Speaker 2: He had been he had been pretty consistent, pretty accurate,
Speaker 2: but yesterday he had he had a rough outing. Is
Speaker 2: that something you just you know, chalk it off to, hey,
Speaker 2: he just had he had a bad day, or or
Speaker 2: do we need to make a move there? Those those
Speaker 2: are things a deal they'll definitely spend some time on
Speaker 2: and try to figure out and you know, kind of
Speaker 2: see what happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Austin Cybert is on ir so he has to
Speaker 1: miss at least three more games, so he can't come
Speaker 1: back for the next few weeks. As for the Saints,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of hard to know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna get because they fired their coach in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season. There's always either it either goes the
Speaker 1: wrong way or it bumps up. And it bumped up
Speaker 1: for them. Actually, they were playing better closer to what
Speaker 1: they were at the beginning of the season. They lost
Speaker 1: it home to the Ram, but they were very competitive
Speaker 1: in it. So things have kind of straightened out and
Speaker 1: they have explosive players on that team. Derek Caarr can
Speaker 1: light it up, Alvin Kamara can light it up. There
Speaker 1: are explosives, and that's a very tough place.
Speaker 2: Yes, four touchdowns and four games for them, but they
Speaker 2: did just lose their Swiss Army knife potentially for the
Speaker 2: season and take some hill. Yeah, so we we don't
Speaker 2: we don't know, you know, if that's gonna be the case.
Speaker 2: But I know I saw, I remember seeing something yesterday
Speaker 2: when they mentioned him potentially being lost for the season.
Speaker 3: So we'll see.
Speaker 2: It's uh, you said, they guess they got some players
Speaker 2: and some explosive players at that.
Speaker 3: They do.
Speaker 1: And that's fun stadium too. It's a great place to play.
Speaker 1: You think like our fans were terrific yesterday. Their fans
Speaker 1: always show up dressed up, ready to go. It's great,
Speaker 1: lathered up. Yeah, you know, consider how cold it is
Speaker 1: right now. You want to fly down and go root
Speaker 1: the team on down there. You'll have a good time
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, trust me on that. And the stadium's
Speaker 1: amazing experience. Let's talk about the playoffs a little bit.
Speaker 1: I know this team likes to stay locked in, but
Speaker 1: four games to go, if the season ended today, they'd
Speaker 1: be in. The path has gotten a little narrower because
Speaker 1: Philadelphia just won't lose anybody. I was hoping for some
Speaker 1: help from Baltimore yesterday. We didn't get it. Philadelphia hasn't
Speaker 1: lost them two months. They're really rolling right now. Obviously
Speaker 1: Washington will get another shot at them in a few weeks,
Speaker 1: but it may not be enough because they need to
Speaker 1: lose a couple more times to give Washington this chance.
Speaker 1: So it's screaming wild card. I'm sure you believe it too.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 1: I think the people in the building believe this. We
Speaker 1: take care of our business. None of the rest of
Speaker 1: this matters. But it's narrow now because the NFC North
Speaker 1: teams are all top three having great seasons. Unless they
Speaker 1: beat each other up or knock one of them off enough,
Speaker 1: the spot to get is a seventh seed.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's where it is right now.
Speaker 1: So Washington's got to either hope for the NFC West
Speaker 1: to remain really messed up and none of those teams
Speaker 1: emerge as a wildcard team and there's just a division winner,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna have to just kind of do it
Speaker 1: on their own and just get in that way.
Speaker 2: I think you folk on what you need to do,
Speaker 2: focus on your handling your own business. You're not you
Speaker 2: don't want to go into a situation where you're limping
Speaker 2: into the playoffs. You're not playing good football going into
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you got to get help from somebody else.
Speaker 2: We're in a situation where we control our own destiny
Speaker 2: by if we win football games. Keep winning football games,
Speaker 2: we'll be in the playoffs. Where that ends up, whether
Speaker 2: it's sixth seed, seventh seed, fifth seed, hey, some crazy
Speaker 2: thing where the Philadelphia Eagles all of a sudden start
Speaker 2: playing extremely bad football.
Speaker 3: Maybe we end up as a two seed. You never know.
Speaker 3: But focus on what you can.
Speaker 2: Control, which is the games that's being played on that
Speaker 2: given game day. December fifteenth, geinst New Orleans Saints Setember
Speaker 2: twenty second against the Philadelphia Eagles, December twenty ninth against
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons, and to be determined date against the Dallas Boys.
Speaker 2: In Jerry's world, that's right, those are the things we focus.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a make good game for this team.
Speaker 2: That's the one to remember, the one that got away
Speaker 2: this year too.
Speaker 3: You're look at too far here. Let's focus on this.
Speaker 3: I hear you.
Speaker 1: Did you think, because there are four games away, they
Speaker 1: are in the playoffs as it speak. If they go
Speaker 1: two and two, they probably get in. If they go
Speaker 1: three and one, they're almost definitively get in. If they
Speaker 1: went out, they might have a shot at the division.
Speaker 1: When we broke camp, did you think we'd be sitting
Speaker 1: here and going playoffs?
Speaker 2: I'll say this, and I'm on record, when we did
Speaker 2: the Command Center show, we predicted wins.
Speaker 3: I think I had predict us maybe about ten wins.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, So so you're saying, yeah.
Speaker 3: Pretty much, I eleven, Yeah, go back.
Speaker 1: Ten would be dependent on Philadelphia. Dallas may or may
Speaker 1: not win a division, but definitively would be the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Philadelphia, I thought I thought I'd say this. I thought
Speaker 2: Philadelphia was going to win our division. I thought they were.
Speaker 2: They had the best, best football team, most talent top
Speaker 2: to bottom.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and Saquon is streaking towards at bare minimum offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year, and I'd argue, MVP, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: way they're going he is, Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Way they're going right now?
Speaker 1: All right after what you saw yesterday, which was closer
Speaker 1: to the beginning of the season, which I think was
Speaker 1: a little surprising how good it was at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the year. Is their room to improve?
Speaker 2: There's always room to improve in what way you anytime
Speaker 2: you win a game, lose a game, you're gonna always
Speaker 2: look at how can we continue to improve? There's a
Speaker 2: maybe there's some some points left out on the board.
Speaker 2: There's a you know, from an individual standpoint, can I
Speaker 2: block a little bit better? Can I catch a little
Speaker 2: bit better? Can I do something better?
Speaker 1: They should?
Speaker 2: Defensively, you allow the the Tennessee types of score right
Speaker 2: before the half to give them some momentum.
Speaker 3: You know, what can we do to shure up not
Speaker 3: giving up.
Speaker 2: The the bigger plays, the plays that we gave up
Speaker 2: in the passing game. So there's always rome to improve,
Speaker 2: regardless of how how how you won and how many
Speaker 2: you won by.
Speaker 3: That's the mentality you got to continue to improve. There
Speaker 3: were two turnovers left on the field.
Speaker 1: Had his first inception get some more interceptions?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see, all right, But.
Speaker 1: It feels good going into the buy off a win
Speaker 1: and a win like that, Yeah, more than anything, a
Speaker 1: win like that, absolutely all right. What are you doing
Speaker 1: for the bye week?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm relaxing, man, trying to get my life together. It's
Speaker 2: been a I'll finally get a chance to be at
Speaker 2: home with my kids. For a full week.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you had quite a weekend London over there,
Speaker 1: went to the Michigan Ohio State game, didn't get mased,
Speaker 1: showed up the next day, went to the Tennessee Washington game,
Speaker 1: and then that night goes and gets into the Christmas
Speaker 1: spirit by seeing Mariah Carey. Well, you shoved it all
Speaker 1: in what weekend? Man?
Speaker 3: Man, I'm just I'm just, you know, living a dream
Speaker 3: and I guess I do. That was Mariah Good they
Speaker 3: played on DV. It was a good guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, everybody that'll do it for the booth reviewer,
Speaker 1: We'll see you after the New Orleans game.