1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review. The Commanders were back 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: in a big way. London dominating performance by the entire team, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: and you got to hand out that belt. I know 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: the crowd wants. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: We'll see does Terry get it or does the defended 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: champion dot Te Fowler tanged his belt. 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: There is a lot of good candidates for that on 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: the Booth Review. Coming up next, Welcome to the Booth 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Review podcast presented by Microsoft's Surface Howering a Better Game. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: I'm brand White side with Big Fletch London Fletcher. 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: It's been a while we won, won big. 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm Big against Tennessee man Man. 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: How good does it feel to be doing this Booth 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: Review coming off of victory? Just outstanding performance all around 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: and the way they did it. It's one thing to win, 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: and we want to win all games. But how they 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: looked in that victory. I think you and I we 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: were all just ecstatic seeing the way that team performed 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: in every every facet of the game. But you know, 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: there's some issues we'll talk about that we can do 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: better on. But we're going to talk about how great 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: the offense looks, how great the defense looked, and how 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: great the tabe looked at general headed to the bye week. 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'll go back through the whole thing. I 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: think largely, I kind of feel like this was the 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: first time they looked like the early season version of themselves. 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: That I think was surprising then and then people went 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: through this how long NFL seasons are? People then go 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: through this, Well, where was that? They never expected it 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: in the first place. Now they've seen it, and now 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: they go where was that? And it showed up again. 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: But I think one of the big things that happened 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: during the week which became really relevant to the whole 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: story of the week was Bobby Wagner spoke to the team, 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: And this is probably not uncommon. Leaders of the team 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: step up at certain points of the season, and I 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: think we can all agree, whether they'll be willing to 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: say this or not. They had to win yesterday. I mean, 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: you couldn't go into the buy on a four game 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: losing streak when you were seven and two and feel 41 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: good about making the playoffs. 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: I think this felt like a must win. 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: And I don't want to speak for Bobby, but it 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: sounds like there was part of him going, hey, we 45 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: got a good team here, let's get this thing back 46 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: on track. 47 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: So just before we I want. 48 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: To play the interaction that you had with him in 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: the locker room, because a lot's been made of Bobby's 50 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: the milestone he made, in the milestone that you've set, 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: in the standard. 52 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: That you set. 53 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: But what did you just make first of Bobby speaking 54 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: to the team last week. 55 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: I thought it was great and it's a testament to 56 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: him as a as a leader. When you go through 57 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: adversity during the season, and you're gonna have adversity during seasons, 58 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna have adversity during games, But how can you 59 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 2: get yourself out of it? Bobby recognize and realize, hey, 60 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: we're on a three game losing streak. There's a lot 61 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: of naysayer's a lot of negativity being talked about this 62 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: football team. 63 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: Maybe they're not that good. 64 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: But for him to a guy who's a former Super 65 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: Bowl champion, he's been in a lot of wars, been 66 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: through been in multiple NFC championship games, multiple playoff games, 67 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: him saying, you know what, hey, guys, let's block out 68 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: all the outside noise. We're still an ex the football team. 69 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: We take care of our business. We play like we're 70 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: capable of playing we can go out and dominate teams. 71 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: And so for him to go to Dan Quinn and say, hey, coach, 72 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: let me talk to him. 73 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 3: And we talked about this in the in our interview 74 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 3: with d Q. The coach teams can. 75 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Teams can kind of tune coach out because his messages 76 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: is constant and you're hearing it all all the time. 77 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: But when you have a player and players deliver a 78 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: message and hold each other accountable, it just hits different. 79 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: It is differently, and for Bobby to do that as 80 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: a testament to who he is as a leader, who 81 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: he is as a player. 82 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: You won a Super Bowl? Did that happen in your 83 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: locker room? 84 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: Oh? 85 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you guys, I like what Washington has done 86 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: this year offensively. For periods of time, you guys had 87 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: a consistently greater show on turf. There must have been 88 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: hard periods though. 89 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 90 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: During during both of the seasons that we we end 91 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: up going to the Super Bowl, I'll say definitely the 92 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: first one where we're still kind of learning who we 93 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: are as a team, learning how to win. Similar to 94 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: this year's team, we started the season off six and 95 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: all we're rolling, clicking on all cylinders and we go 96 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: to Tennessee ironically and lose to the Times in Nashville, 97 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: and then we lose to the Detroit Lions. We gave 98 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: up like a fourth and I don't know, twenty twenty 99 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: type play that could have won the game. So we 100 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: got a two game losing streak. Same old Sorry, Rams 101 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: is kind of now being a narrative. They've come back 102 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: to reality and we had to have some you know, 103 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: conversations and realize, okay, who are we and then we 104 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: end up rolling again, not not losing another game to 105 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: the end of the season, where the last regular season 106 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: game we had everything clenched up, you know, pulls start 107 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But we had a two game 108 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 2: losing streak during that season. But we had to have 109 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: some conversation. 110 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: Obviously, Bobby has weight in the room. Because it's funny. 111 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: When we were talking to Dad Quick after the game yesterday, 112 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: he even said, sometimes this doesn't go well when a 113 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: player steps up and speaks and it's either not their 114 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: strength or they don't get the message right. Clearly, it 115 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: worked for whatever Bobby said. 116 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: And one thing that he said is he said Bobby 117 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: doesn't talk all the time, probably all the time to 118 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: the team. 119 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting. 120 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't know him well, but like he seems actually 121 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: a very reserved personality for someone who's been as accomplished 122 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: as Ease. 123 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm sure he talks to the defense, Yeah, 124 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: but in terms of addressing the team and really addressing 125 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: the team in that manner if you don't do it 126 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: all the time, and then for you to come on 127 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: and say, hey, it's time for me to talk and 128 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: address the team. Just the the awareness of him understanding 129 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: where they where they're at in their. 130 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: Season and coach, I got you. 131 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, teams and players, they respect him first and foremost 132 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: before he made one single play on this team, one tackle, 133 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. As soon as he signed 134 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: with this team, he automatically had respect equity built up 135 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: because of all the things he had accomplished in his 136 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: career prior to signing with us. 137 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: So they already he already has their ear. 138 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: But then when he delivers that message, and it's one 139 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: thing to deliver a message and not up your hold 140 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: up your end of the bargain, he delivers a message 141 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: and he holds up his ears at the bargain by 142 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: his play. 143 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: You know, like what signaled to me that this was 144 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna be different, and I didn't know how this would 145 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: work out this year was his signing because this isn't 146 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: messy to the MLS right, he wants to win. He 147 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: didn't come here out of charity. He came here by choice. 148 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: Probably could have retired if he really wanted to. He 149 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: never played on the East Coast, so when he signed here, 150 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: it signaled something to me that he actually believes in 151 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: this coaching staff. Whether he knew what was here and 152 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: what was in front of him, I don't know, but 153 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: that was to me the most significant veteran signing that 154 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: was made. He didn't have to do this, He probably 155 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: had other offers, and when he signed here it meant 156 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: something at least to me about what was being built here. 157 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: And absolutely Bramman, he has two daughters that are still 158 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: out on the West Coast, So for him to come 159 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: all the way across the country be away from his daughters, 160 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: which you know, we're parents and man, we want to 161 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: see our kids every single day. And for him not 162 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: to say, you know what, I believe in what they're 163 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: doing in Washington. I believe in Dad Quinn, I believe 164 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: in and Ken Norton, Junr. I believe in what they're 165 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: building in Washington. I'm going to go all the way 166 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: across the country, leave my daughters all the way on 167 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: the West coast. That says a lot to how he 168 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: felt about this situation. 169 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, and here we are. 170 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, week thirteen, he's already surpassed on hundred tackles, 171 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: so he's brought the standard to play with him. This 172 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: is a position that was weak for this team for 173 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: a number of years. He solidified that even at the 174 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: advanced stage of his career. And obviously everybody knows by 175 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: now like he's done this now thirteen years in a row. 176 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: The only other player in this millennium that has done 177 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: it longer consecutively is you. And I thought we had 178 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: a really really cool moment last night because I thought 179 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: the team pointing this out was great that they did 180 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: that to allow him to kind of get the shine 181 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: for doing what he did yesterday. But having him with 182 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: you in the locker room afterwards was really an amazing moment. 183 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: So take a listen to this right back in the 184 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: locker room with Bobby Wagner. You reached one hundred tackles 185 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: for the thirteenth consecutive season, there's only one other player 186 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: that's done it longer, the guy standing next to you, 187 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: London Fletcher. So let me just start with you, Like, 188 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: what does a milestone like that mean to you? 189 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: It means a lot. 190 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: We're in this jersey, being able to represent somebody like 191 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 4: this to standing next to me, it's really cool. So 192 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: I'm grateful for this. It's really cool. But I'm really 193 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: grateful for him because I don't remember when I reached 194 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 4: out to him, but I kind of just reached out 195 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: to him, and I wasn't sure what I was going 196 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 4: to get or anything, you know, person just randomly reaching out, 197 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: but you know, he showed me so much love, gave 198 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 4: me so much advice whether to take care of my body, 199 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: whether you know, how to play the game, and you know, 200 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: I'm really grateful and he's definitely the reason why I'm here. 201 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobby, as he mentioned, this is probably I think 202 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: it was twenty fourteen, almost ten years ago, man that 203 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: he reached out to me. You know, didn't know him, 204 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: but just wanted to pick my brains. And I was 205 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: actually humble because he was so accomplished at that time 206 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, but him having enough respect of 207 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: the guys who played before him, Like, I know I 208 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: can still add to my game. One thing about you, 209 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: we knew coming over about the great leadership, But one 210 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: thing that I'm always pointing out is the productivity. Yeah, 211 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: you know, the leadership is great, but you're still playing 212 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: at the extremely high level. How are you able to 213 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: continue to play at this high level? 214 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: Man? It's just taking care of your body, honestly, Like, 215 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: I'm just remember the conversation because you know, he never 216 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: missed any games in his career, and I'm like, damn, 217 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 4: how did somebody do that? And he gave me so 218 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: much advice, and I just tried to implement stuff that 219 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 4: he did. Like I don't know if you remember, you 220 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: talked about running the sands, so I started running. It 221 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: was a lot of things that he said. He probably 222 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: even know I was writing stuff down. So I'm like, 223 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: if he, you know, was able to play a long 224 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: time at this position without being hurt or anything like that, 225 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: I was gonna do it. 226 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: So I was. 227 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: I was just trying to listen and just let you 228 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 4: know that I listened. 229 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: So you and Bobby got to share that moment last night, 230 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: and as I learned from you, this relationship kind of 231 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: started years ago. 232 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: It did, it did, and back in twenty nineteen, I've 233 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: been retired with for six years, six seasons then and 234 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: Bobby just code DM me on Twitter it's x. 235 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: Now and it need to get your number. 236 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: Well, so he didn't have my number and we had 237 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: never we had played against each other. 238 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: In the twenty twelve playoffs. 239 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: He was a he was a rookie that year, and 240 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: you know, I didn't know him, and just over the 241 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: course of the years watching this game, watching him play, like, man, this, 242 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: this dude's a hell of a football player. And had 243 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of respect for his game and the 244 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: way he played and appreciation for him. 245 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: And he reached out to me and you know, say. 246 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: Hey, London, you know love to pick pick your brain 247 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: and chop it up with you to you know, see 248 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: how you were so successful. 249 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: And and for. 250 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: Him to do that for especially for former players, when 251 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: a younger guy reaches out to us, I mean that 252 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: means the world to us because something, you know, he's like, man, this, 253 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: this guy recognizes like I did that. I did the 254 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: same thing to Sam Mills that Bobby did to me. 255 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: I had somebody who had connections to Sam Mills. They 256 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: put me in contact with him. So for for me, 257 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: it was almost just like a full circle moment being 258 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: able to give give back to UH, to Bobby the 259 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: way that Sam had poured into me. 260 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: And so it just this was it. 261 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: This was five years ago, and you know we've we 262 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: had several conversations and you know, just kind of sharing, 263 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: sharing what I felt like helped me improve and what 264 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: I thought improve it. You know, it's just talked about. 265 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: He asked a bunch of questess. He asked, you know, 266 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: how did I train, how did I take care of myself? 267 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: I was sharing with him, you know, my my recovery stuff, 268 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: my training during the off season. Things did have that 269 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: I added to my to my training and my repertoire too, 270 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: especially as I got older in my career, to help 271 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: me play at a higher level. We talked, We talked coverages. 272 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: We talked covered four to quarters coverage, which at that 273 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: point in time, the I think the Seahawks was playing 274 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: a lot of quarters coverage and and I had a 275 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: lot of experience playing that coverage and I was just 276 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: helping talking to him about that. It's funny because UH, 277 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: last year when we played the Seahawks. I ran it 278 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: to him and that was the first time me seeing 279 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: him in person, meeting him in person when we were out. 280 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: There, and because it talked a lot, but you've never 281 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: actually never. 282 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: Had met in person. 283 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we never met in person him until last year 284 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: in Seattle when we play and I talked to him 285 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: prior to the game and we talked covered quarters coverage 286 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: again on the field, and I told him, I was like, man, 287 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: you got to make sure you invite me too your 288 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame ceremony, and uh, you know, as crazy 289 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: as it is as it is now, he's a he's 290 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: a Washington commander. 291 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: Well, if he's going to get to fourteen, which is 292 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: your record, yeah, he's got to resign. Yeah, and they 293 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: know a one year deal. I've been trying to extend 294 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: him now, you. 295 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: Know, just assuming he wants to play. Yeah, exactly. 296 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: And again, being away from your daughter daughters, being that 297 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: that far away, it can wear on you. So I'm 298 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: sure he'll take his time and really get through the 299 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: emotions of the season and kind of say, you know, 300 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: do I want to do it again? I mean, he's 301 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: still playing at an elite level, high level. They need 302 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: to resign him, I will I'll say this man, we 303 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: knew what he was going to bring it from a 304 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: leadership standpoint, but what people underestimated and overlook was what 305 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: he's what he was bringing it and what he has 306 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: brought from a production standpoint. He still playing at an 307 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: elite level. 308 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is, and I really appreciated him. I don't 309 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: think he said it during our interview, but I remember 310 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: he said it during the media scrum after the game, 311 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: that you should be in the Hall of Fame, and that, 312 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think everyone assumes that he's going to 313 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: be in the Hall. They talk about it any way, 314 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: but they assume that he's going to be in the 315 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, whether it's first ballot or not. And 316 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Go watch the guy's careers, Champion. 317 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: He's done it with this kind of level of production. 318 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: There's no question you were him too. It's why he 319 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: called you. So, you know, I hope that they listen. 320 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: This is a second time now in a year Devin 321 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: Hester got the jacket, walked up on the stage and 322 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: said Brian Mitchell should be in the Hall of Fame. 323 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree with that he should be. He's the 324 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: standard bearer of that position, and now the kick returns 325 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: are back, maybe people will start thinking about it differently. 326 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: When you see things that come out the turpins doing 327 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: people like that, you get to see what kind of 328 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: impact he had. You had this impact at that position too. 329 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: It's it's an oversight and I'm hoping that it's gonna 330 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: get changed. 331 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: And what I loved about what what Devin did and 332 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: b Mitch has been retired for I don't know, almost 333 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: twenty years now, for Devin to recognize what b Mitch 334 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: meant to the to the return game and and Devin 335 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: bringing him into the four four during Devn's moment recognizing 336 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: and it's still being being humble enough and be saying, 337 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: you know what, Brian Mitchell should be in the Pro 338 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame with Bobby you know, becoming thirteen 339 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: consecutive tackles, hundred tackle seasons and me being in the 340 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: mix keeps me relevant, him talking about me and you know, 341 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: saying I should be in the Hall of Famers with 342 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: respect there. And it's for for b Mitch myself. We 343 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: truly appreciate when guys come up and acknowledge what you 344 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: know we did before them in the same way like 345 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: we acknowledge the guys who did it before us. 346 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even in my field. 347 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: The second I got the job calling the games for 348 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: this team, the first thing I did was call all 349 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: the major broadcasters that I respect it would listen to me, 350 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: because I just wanted to hear their experiences. I called 351 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: the local ones that I you know, admired, Joe Beninatti, 352 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: Steve Buckants, John waltonm gon To missing the name of 353 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: Johnny Holliday. I called them all and said, what can 354 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: you tell me about this experience? And every time I 355 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: see someone like Iron Eagle or Mike Tarico or anybody, 356 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: I talk to them. I want to know. And it 357 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: sounds like you've done the same thing here that it's 358 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: through the years. Knowledge is power, you know, like knowing 359 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: what the people did before you to get to where 360 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: they were is everything. 361 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: And it sounds like you passed it down to him. 362 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: And I bet he'll do the same for the Fred 363 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: Warners of the world or the great middle linebackers who 364 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: are out there, and. 365 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: He probably has already done it. Yeah, you know you 366 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: for current players. 367 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: You're a young linebacker, young young football player in general, 368 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: and you're not reaching and tapping into the brains of 369 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: these guys who've done it for a multitude of years. 370 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: You're missing out, Yeah, you're missing the education of it. 371 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the game. 372 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: So it worked like whatever he said, whatever the mood was, 373 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: I thought the crowd was into it really big time. 374 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: Flags were good. That was I think the flags. Flag, 375 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: flags went well. Flags at going. The vibe was right. 376 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: The opening drive, they had two penalties immediately, defensively got 377 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: a very quick stop. 378 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: They were in a hole. 379 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: Immediately, Washington gets the ball, walks down the field, scores 380 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: a touchdown immediately, like what dan Quinn was talking about. 381 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: And I've cited this on with the Game with you. 382 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: He is omniscient somewhat. You know, sometimes you hear coaches 383 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: say things and to your point earlier or like sometimes 384 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: it goes in one ear and out the other. When 385 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: he says certain things, I take note of it. And 386 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: last week, late in the week, he said the adversity 387 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: was good for the team, which is one way to 388 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: put it. And then he said, you're gonna see what's 389 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: on the other side, because there's another thing coming here. 390 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: And we saw the team that we saw earlier in 391 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: the season. Show up immediately. I mean, and I felt it, 392 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: and I know you felt it two and the scoreboard 393 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: showed it very quickly. That was that was the best 394 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: start to a game we've had in years. 395 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: Best started. 396 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: And you mentioned that on the broadcast, and and you're 397 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: watching the Hey, the defense get the three down and 398 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: then b Rob breakoff that forty yard run. 399 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: He's like, oh my goodness. 400 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: And uh then you get the turnovers and and all 401 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: the things that happened, and it's like Dad knows his 402 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 2: football team. He said something was coming. He's got the pulse. 403 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 2: He has the pulse. And a lot of times you 404 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: can sense that based on a practice, based on the meetings, 405 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: you can you can feel the energy of man, these 406 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: guys are really focused. These guys are pissed off. These 407 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: guys are ready to rock. They're ready to go out 408 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: there and have a and play great football. And he 409 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: knew is he knows his football team. And we saw 410 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: that on full displayed yesterday. 411 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had said, basically, I think some of 412 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: the was they didn't like the way they started with 413 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: the energy against Dallas. Yeah, and that all of the 414 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: missed opportunities we talked about this last week they had 415 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: a block kick, a block punt, a missed field goal, 416 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: and a fumble recovery and had three points right at halftime. 417 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: That's on you. I mean, they made some of those 418 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: plays happen. Obviously two of them were they blocked a kick, 419 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: they blocked a punt, and they got a fumble. But 420 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: the complimentary side of it was the energy wasn't there 421 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: across the board. He didn't like that. He always consistently says, 422 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna like how we get down, not certain portions 423 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: of it, how we do it. And this was a 424 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: full throttle team effort here that started this game against Tennessee, 425 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: and it was an avalanche. 426 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: What I also saw was the it's from my office standpoint, 427 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: them being on attack, them dictating the terms of the agreement. 428 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: I talk all the time, especially on the Players Club podcast, 429 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: which you can check out on our YouTube channel as well. 430 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: It's dictating the terms of the agreement, especially your big guys, 431 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: your guys in the trenches, not negotiating with terrorists. 432 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: We don't make peace treaties. 433 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: This is this type of stuff I'm talking about, and 434 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: it's really about being an attack mole. The offense came 435 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: out in attack mole, getting ball to Terry, really establishing 436 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: a physical presence in the run game, and they were 437 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: moving people off off the line of scrimmage in Tennessee. 438 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: Their number eight ranked run defense in the National Football League, 439 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: number one against the pass. And this was a tough team. Yeah, 440 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: that record was not great, but from a defensive standpoint, 441 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: you watched them on film looking at them, I watched them. 442 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: I was like, man, this could be. This would be 443 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: a tough, tough ball game for us. And the way 444 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: that offense came out and perform, the way that offensive 445 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: line set a physical tone, the way they protected Jaden, 446 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: the way he was able to distribute the football. It 447 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: was a full out of tack mo. Maybe against the Cowboys, 448 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily see us in full attack mode the 449 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: way we I think that's what. 450 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: Dan Quinn was talking. 451 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel the energy. 452 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah feel us, feel us in attack mode. 453 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: And sometimes you can kind of almost say respect opponent 454 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: a little bit too much, but you gotta realize and say, hey, 455 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: we's some badasses too. 456 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: They got to fear us and respect us too. 457 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: Dallas dominated the line of scrimmage against that they did. 458 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: They did olso O Digizuoa had a terrific game. Michael 459 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: Parsons was in the backfield over and over. There were 460 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: very good time rushes against them that did not happen 461 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: against a defense that's statistically better than the one that 462 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: they faced a week ago. I walked in going, I 463 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to run the ball effectively. 464 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: I know they're gonna they're gonna be consistent on it, 465 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: because the coaches had told me they were going to 466 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: stick with it, but with b Rob coming off the ankle, 467 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: it was hard to know what condition he was going 468 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: to really be in. Austin Eckler obviously wasn't going to 469 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: be able to play, and the offensive line had been 470 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: beat up, and Andrew Wiley wasn't playing like I didn't 471 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: expect them to run the ball effectively. I expected them 472 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: to run the ball a lot, but they didn't expect 473 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: them to do what they did. To have two sixty 474 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: seven on the ground is a real testament to be 475 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: Robs fine. And secondarily, the offensive line really took what 476 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: happened personally. They're the group. They took it really personally. 477 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: This was the closest thing to the early part of 478 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: the season we saw from them collectively. To control the 479 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage that way. 480 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Now, you're absolutely right about the offensive line taking personally 481 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 2: and when you have a bad game, which I mean 482 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: they they had a bad game against the Tennessee Titan. 483 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: It was not their best Brandon football, and you're not 484 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: happy with the way you performed. A lot of guys 485 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: that you know have played well force during the season 486 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: just didn't have good games from the offensive line standpoint. 487 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 2: And those guys, they they had to sit on that 488 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 2: for for a week and they I'm sure they, you know, 489 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: they's like, you know what, I don't want to feel 490 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 2: like that again. And we're gonna show, uh, We're gonna 491 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: show the Tennessee Titans. What we saw against the Dallas Cowboys, 492 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: that's not us. What we you know saw during the 493 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: game against the Philadelphia Eagles, that's not us. So you 494 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: go out and you you set a second set a 495 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: physical tone. 496 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: You mentioned b Rob. 497 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: I thought with him showing up and practicing on on 498 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: Wednesdays practice, you and I were out of the practice 499 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: during the open availability and when I saw b Rob 500 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: out there taking handoffs, I was shot first and foremost 501 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: that he was on the football field, because you know 502 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: he wasn't able to finish the game Sunday against the Cowboys, 503 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: you had you had to assume, like, uh, is he 504 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: going to be Is he going to be able to play? 505 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: This will have to be something we monitor towards the 506 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: end of the week. But for him to not miss 507 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: a practice and may he was limited a little bit, 508 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: but for him to be out there, that also sent 509 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: the message to his team saying, hey, guys, I'm here 510 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: for you. I'm ready to fight. I'm not missing this game. 511 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: Were in the three game loser week. I'm gonna be 512 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: out there. I may not be one hundred percent, but 513 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you everything I got. And that went 514 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: a lot a long way to me. Just watching him 515 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: out on that practice field, I'm like, man, this he 516 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 2: gets it and that's gonna resonator too. 517 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 518 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: I think, like we talked earlier about Bobby Wagner, right, 519 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: and like so he spoke up. 520 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: He said something. 521 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: I think he leads by example, mainly to everyone's point, 522 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: like he doesn't do that very often. He did it, 523 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: but he felt it was necessary. I think be Rob similar. 524 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't feel like he's the most talkative guy. He's 525 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: not gonna stand up speak his mind all that often, 526 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: but he's gonna show you by example. 527 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 3: And you're seeing this. 528 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: I know it killed him to miss those games earlier 529 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: this year in a couple of occasions, they held him 530 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: out for what they thought was in his own best 531 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: interest to not harm himself. He liked that, so he 532 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: and I think we all know this, And Quinn said this, 533 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: b Rob. When he's going there's an emotional lift to 534 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: the way he plays. It's just the way he plays. 535 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: I describe it as gas in the tank, like he 536 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: finishes runs. He embodies I think what they want in 537 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: their players here. 538 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: He is tough, and when he's. 539 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Coming at you, especially in the second half of the lead, 540 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: nobody wants anything. 541 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: To do with it. Yeah. Yeah, sixteen Carris over one 542 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: hundred yards Its sea Rob, Chris. That's an amazing Chris Rodriguez. 543 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: He finished that game. Man, what thirteen k's what ninety 544 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: four yards? 545 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't on the roster a week ago. He's been 546 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: called up and down multiple times. Practice, squad roster, practicequad roster. 547 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Hat a very good game in New York, remember playing 548 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: that one. Finish that one out right? He was off 549 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: the roster. Then Austin Eckler gets hurt, it was logical 550 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: to call him back, bring him back in. You gotta wonder, 551 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: like where is someone's head when they go up and 552 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: down on the roster all year long. Well, he showed 553 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: up for this team on Sunday too and really finished 554 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: the game out physical running up the middle of the. 555 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: Field, physical runner. Man. 556 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: We're watching those Tennessee Ties defenders just bounce off of 557 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: sea rob Man. He I love the kid. I love 558 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: watching them. I really liked watching them a season ago. 559 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: You look at him coming out of Kentucky, didn't know 560 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: a whole lot about him Kentucky football. You think more 561 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: of basketball when you think Kentucky. But watching him once 562 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: we drafted him, looking at his film like love, loved 563 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: how he finished the finish, his runs, just power back. 564 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 3: Then this year he was on our active rouster all year. 565 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: This year had to you. 566 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: Know, didn't make the fifty three out of training camp, 567 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: all the practice squad gets caught up. As you mentioned 568 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: Boson back and forth, him even giving up his his 569 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: jersey number two. Yeah by Sean Latimar, Like, man, I 570 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: don't need any money here. 571 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: You can you can have this. 572 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: You've accomplished so much so his his amility, and Chris 573 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: Man just I'm so happy for him for him to 574 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: have the type of game that he had and being 575 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 2: able to play the way he played. 576 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: The numbers are stunning. I mean the time of possession, 577 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: they doubled them in time of possession. They had twenty 578 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: nine first downs. They had four hundred and sixty three 579 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: total yards. And I know people look at the record 580 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: and they think, well, they just beat a bad team 581 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: that teams a number two defense in the NFL. They 582 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: had given up one hundred and six rush yards per 583 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: game at four yards per carry. Washington had surpassed that 584 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: by the end of the first quarter against them. This 585 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: is with without their right tackle, with a beat up 586 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: offensive line, and a running back that we weren't sure 587 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: was going to play, and their second best running back 588 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: on ir right. So like, this is to me the 589 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: best offensive performance. I don't know by far, because I'd 590 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: say the Cincinnati one and the Arizona ones are worth 591 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: looking back at, but those feel like a year ago 592 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: now considering where we are in the season, this is 593 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: reminiscent of that, and I would argue it's the best 594 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: offensive performance of the season. 595 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: I you all get it. You all get an argue 596 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: argument for me on that. I think when you when 597 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: you put in context, coming off with three game losing 598 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: streak going into this game, and how the offense had 599 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: performed during those three games lose doing this three game 600 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: losing streak, not not clicking on all cylinders, not being 601 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: the high powered offense had we had grown accustomed to 602 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: for the majority of the season. Also going against a 603 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: tightest defense that was so stout against the run, so 604 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: stout against the pass well regardless, highly regarded throughout the NFL, 605 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: and how they how many problems they caused for offenses. 606 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: When you add all those those three things together, I 607 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: think it was the best offensive performance of the season. 608 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jayden twenty five of thirty. So this is the 609 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: first time since that early part of the season that 610 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: he's over eighty percent completion hit over ninety against Cincinnati, 611 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: So it's hard to kind of compare that one. 612 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: That one, and it was a Monday night football on 613 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: a row. 614 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: That was the one when we went we might have 615 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: a unicorn like when they did that. Then he turned 616 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: around and had the game against Arizona. He was completing 617 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: over eighty percent of his throws through the first month 618 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: of the season, which was really unprecedented in historic, and 619 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: we were kind of talking about he might be the 620 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: best rookie quarterback ever because that's how his season actually started. 621 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: This was reminiscent of that, which leads me to believe 622 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: the rib injury was significant. It hindered him. He said 623 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: nothing about it, He never used it as an excuse. 624 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: He listened to people talk about it, and kind of 625 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: like b Rob, he let his actions speak louder than 626 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: his words. Because the last two weeks he is clearly healthier, 627 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: feeling like himself, moving like he did early in the season, 628 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: and yesterday pinpoint accurate again with the exception of one 629 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: or two throws, the one that was a little high 630 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: to Ertz that ended up getting intercepted, and one or 631 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: two other misses, but again he was back to where 632 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: he was, which leads me to believe he played significantly 633 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: hurt for probably about a month. 634 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you don't. You have a rib injury, 635 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: especially the one like he had. It's not a hey, 636 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: you have one week, you know between the injury and 637 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're you're fine. Those rib injuries, 638 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: I've I've dealt with them several times in my career, 639 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: it's four to six weeks that you're dealing with that. 640 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: You have trouble. 641 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: Sleeping, breathing, laughing, all that type stuff. It constantly hurts him. Yeah, 642 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: you'll get better. I won't even say day by day, 643 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: maybe week by week. You'll get better, but you won't 644 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: be fully functioned on totally healed. Especially he's he was 645 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: continuing to play, continue to take hits to know that area. He's, 646 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: the position he plays, he's going to be exposed to. 647 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: His ribs are going to be exposed because of him. 648 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: You know the position that he plays, So he may 649 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: be he may have suffered slight setbacks in terms from 650 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: a healing standpoint. You get you get hit again, that 651 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: may set you back a couple days from a healing process. 652 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: So you see the difference that from a just of 653 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: the electricity in his legs, the ways the ways moving, 654 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: the way he's throwing and stepping into his throws, stuff 655 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: like that. You definitely know that that ten days off 656 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: between the game against the Eagles and the Cowboys, he 657 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: definitely needed that and appreciate I mean rest. 658 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: We were saying it before the Pittsburgh game, this team 659 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: needed to buy you can just tell like they needed it, 660 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: and that's a long time man. That's why that stretch 661 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: was so difficult. That they hit two really really good teams. 662 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is probably gonna win their division, Philadelphia who probably is. 663 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: We need them to go on some kind of losing 664 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: streak that they don't look like they're intending to do it. 665 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: They might be the number of eight, might end up 666 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: being a number one seed in the NFC. 667 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: Yes, that's very possible right now, that they're gonna end 668 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: up that way. Those are the teams we played in 669 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: a four day span, one of them on the road 670 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: with a team that needed to buy and was beat up, 671 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: including the quarterback who was still injured. We got to 672 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: the other side of it. The Dallas one is hard 673 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: to take because I think it's the one that got 674 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: away from them, But it was the sign that Jayden 675 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: is starting to look like the guy that we saw 676 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: early in the season and manifested again yesterday. He looked 677 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: like that quarterback at the beginning of the year, and 678 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: now with an extra week off. Now it's what really 679 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: gives me the hope that a late season run is 680 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: about to begin. If he's gonna play like this, they're 681 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: going to be extraordinarily difficult to beat. 682 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: No, without a doubt. 683 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: And you mentioned the game against the Steelers game, the 684 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: game against the Eagles Pittsburg what nine in what's they recognized? 685 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 3: Nine and two, nine and. 686 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: Three, nine and three loosen up at one point had 687 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: still controversial spot, controversial spot. 688 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: Contri spot a jump off side otherwise it would have 689 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: got the ball back. 690 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: So there's the the Philly game. 691 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: It's a twelve ten game, been over the fourth quarter. 692 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: We go for on that fourth, fourth and two. They 693 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: had a bad three minute stretch. 694 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yes, that could end up being a different 695 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: type of ball cup, different outcome. So we've gone toe 696 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: to toe with two of the best teams in the NFL. 697 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: It was Baltimore too. 698 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And as you mentioned the Dallas loss, considering what 699 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: Dallas's record was, and I'll say this, Dallas is better 700 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: than what their record in the case as well. They're 701 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: five and seven right now. They're a better football team. 702 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: They won thirty six games in three years. That's a 703 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: good roster. Yeah, they have a lot of injuries, a 704 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: lot of injuries. They're very different. They started getting some 705 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: people back on defense. I do feel like they're no excuses. 706 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: That's the one that got away this year. Of the 707 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: losses they've had this year, that's the one that got. 708 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: Awa, especially when you look at all of the opportunities 709 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: we had in the first half of that Yes, with 710 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: the turnovers, the field position all. 711 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: That team's going home with their tabletreeing their legs if 712 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: you get up on them early, because that's what's happened 713 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: to them over the previous five weeks. 714 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: It's a twenty eight have a game like we had 715 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: against the Test. Besides, if we take advantage of the opportunities. 716 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: I agree, all right to other people on offense, I 717 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: want to talk about it. One is Cliff Kingsbury, because 718 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: he spent the week listening to that. These guys they 719 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: got to stop telling us they don't listen to outside noise. 720 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: Yes they do, Okay, yes they do. Stop lying. 721 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: You know you do. 722 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: Because the narratives popped up on him. Everyone looked back 723 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: at the records that occurred in Arizona, right where annually 724 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: in December there's a dip in the offense. Yes, this 725 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: is a different quarterback in a different place with a 726 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: different team, no offense to Kyler Murray, like just because 727 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: and the dip was not as prominent as people were 728 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: making it out to be. 729 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: But they saw. 730 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: What they didn't see was the unprecedented stuff that was 731 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: happening early right, which there was no chance on earth 732 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: that that was going to continue at that rate. But 733 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: because it wasn't as good, there was a narrative that 734 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: was built. Right, don't tell me he didn't hear this, 735 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, Terry's moving around James looking good, 736 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: He's in his bag starting with all these secondary targets again, 737 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: and the offense looked really different this week. 738 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: Here, I'm a squash up. Let you all on a 739 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 2: little known secret. We hear those thieves, We definitely hear 740 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: those things. You can't help but here, because either you 741 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 2: wanna hear personally or somebody who's close to you is 742 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 2: gonna let you know what's being said, you'll you'll hear 743 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: those criticism. 744 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: And and we're all. 745 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 2: We all have egos, we all have we want to 746 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: be viewed as as some of the best of what 747 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 2: we do. 748 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 3: We don't want our work criticized. And it was just like, hey, 749 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: it just made sense. 750 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 2: We're let's move Terry round, Let's figure out how to 751 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: get him the football and and it's not just about Terry. 752 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: Then when you move him around, that opens up other guys, 753 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: that opens up the offense. That that that's the the 754 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: wares Waldough type of scenario that we used to have 755 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: when we were playing like a Jason Witten or you know, 756 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: a t O or somebody like that, like where when 757 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: he lines up a certain different places, what does that mean? 758 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: Ad tennis? Shit go up? 759 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: So it was it was interesting very first player, the 760 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: gay Terry lies up on the right side. They throw 761 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: a quick hitch. It was like, okay, so Cliff, he 762 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 2: heard you. He was he was in the slot. They 763 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: lined him up in the slot, They lined him up 764 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: at number three on the right side. They lined him 765 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: up in a bunch of different places. The touchdown that 766 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 2: he caught, the second touchdown he called on the right 767 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: side goes in motion deep over and he was the 768 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: he was a third read on that play. 769 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: But again moving him around, yeah, moving him around. So 770 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: for Kingsbury too, I don't know where you were on 771 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: the unlocking Terry part of it, but where I landed 772 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: on it going in was earlier in the season. What 773 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: was really telling about the offense was how they were executing, 774 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: but the ball was and I thought it was. It 775 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: was really interesting when Jade Daniels was asked about Terry 776 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: McClain going into the game, and he basically just shrugged 777 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: and said, listen, he's a great player. 778 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 3: We know that. 779 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna put the ball where the defense basically 780 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: tells me. 781 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: To put the ball. 782 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: Right, I'm not just going to force it to anybody. 783 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: If the defense says you got to throw it here, 784 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: well that's where I'm going to throw it. That's what 785 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: you want your quarterback to do. This one then went 786 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: back to Cliff where we go, all right, then you 787 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: need to scheme it up to where the defense wants 788 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: you to throw it to Terry or demands you to 789 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: throw it to Terry. And secondarily what was lost to 790 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: me and it lost the wrong word, but like what 791 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: had changed was some of the secondary targets. Alamine's a 792 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: Kias really comes to mind with this, Diami Brown to 793 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: a certain degree, Luke McCaffrey, their targets were way down, 794 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: like over the last month. To me to unlock Terry, 795 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: the offense needed to be as diverse as it was 796 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: earlier in the season, and the defenses needed to take 797 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: those guys, I think more seriously than they had over 798 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. So some of this I thought 799 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: was moving Terry around, and some of it was if 800 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna try to take Terry away, we're gonna hurt 801 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: you with somebody else. That's right, I landed on it. 802 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: Now, you're right about that. 803 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: I like them, especially with a young quarterback, for Jaden 804 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: to say, hey, the defense is gonna dictate where I 805 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: go with the football. You don't want to have a 806 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 2: young quarterback getting in a situation where you're telling them, hey, 807 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: throw this ball here, throw this ball here, throw this 808 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: ball here, because that's when you get into the situation 809 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: where you're turning the football over, you're having incompletions, things 810 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 2: like that. So that's the right messaging to have with 811 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 2: a young quarterback. Now, you played Tom Brady, Peyton Manney. 812 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: You know some of the season quarterbacks who had they've 813 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 2: been in the trench, has been in these battles, and 814 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 2: there they can say, hey, I know the coverage is 815 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 2: saying hey I should go over here, but let me 816 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: I know how to manipulate the defense to go to. 817 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison. 818 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: I know how to get to a Randy More, I 819 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 2: can do some things to manipulate to cover stuff like that. 820 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 2: He's a young quarterback. He's not to that level yet. 821 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 2: I'll say this, though you talk about the targets, those 822 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: guys also had to win more and take advantage of 823 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: the opportunities to catch the football when it was throwing 824 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 2: to him, because again, if they're producing, it's gonna help 825 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: help the office in general. Those guys during the stretch, 826 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: they weren't playing at the level that they needed to 827 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: play it. 828 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: It was interesting too, like all the narratives on Cliff 829 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: like going into the game, if you looked at them, 830 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: there's still a top ten offensive yards. They were top 831 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: five in scoring, number three in total points. That people 832 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: were asking a question like what's wrong with the offense? 833 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there going what's wrong with the offense? 834 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: Like it hasn't been as good as it was? It 835 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: took a dip for a few weeks. The quarterback was hurt, 836 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line was beat up. They were missing people 837 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: every single week. These guys are all on the injury list, 838 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: b Rob miss games, No kidding, They're not scoring forty 839 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: points a game right now, Like give it a minute, 840 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: right and so I was actually happy for Cliff because 841 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: I know he was hearing it and then everybody, you know, 842 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: makes up this narrative that what happened in Arizona's going 843 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: to happen here, and I was happy for him that 844 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: it turned out the way that it did that yesterday. 845 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 2: As well, Man, it's time, it's time you want to 846 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: give it out the belt? 847 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, time for the belt. It's time of the belt, man. 848 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: And now it's time for the Big Fletch Heavyweight Commander Championship. 849 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: I think we've already kind of hinted who it might 850 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: be going to. 851 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ah, it's been a while since we've gave it 852 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: give it out the belt, Okay, big Big Fletcher's heavyweight 853 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: command this championship belt, and we only give this out 854 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 2: during wins. And the ranted champion guy who still had 855 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 2: the belt was a Dante Fowler that was. 856 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 3: So long ago. 857 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 2: Man, I don't even know what what game was that 858 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: that he even got the belt in a month ago. 859 00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll figure that out. 860 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: But the contender is going to be Terry McLaurin. There 861 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: was a couple of guys that that that I thought 862 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: about is from contendent standpoint, Ja Jaden was up for 863 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: consideration in that uh b Rob b Rob was in consideration. 864 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: I even thought about Chris Rodriguez. Defensively, Dante Fowler, Okay, 865 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 2: he had in the ball game two tackles, one TfL. 866 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: He had a sack and then the NFL ended up 867 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 2: taking it away from him. We'll see what happens whether 868 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 2: they're gonna give him that sack or not. And if 869 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: he does, you know that that that could change some things. However, 870 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 2: I'll say this about a Foler. He had an impact 871 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: on two plays right after the interception where he helped 872 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: keep the tits office. 873 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 3: That by him, and he makes tremendous plays the. 874 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 2: Challenge Terry eight receptions, eight targets, seventy three yards. 875 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 3: It's a touching. 876 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: I think the fan the fans agree with you here too, 877 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: because they were chanting his name from quarter one yesterday. 878 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: It was like Mike Tyson Walker in fight. Yeah, Paul, 879 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: the Terry chants. 880 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 2: That were going on so the fast they knew they 881 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 2: were all just something. So with that being said, and do. 882 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 3: Big fletch combat this heavyweight champion. 883 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: Ty Till Terry Terry. 884 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 3: We got a new belt. He deserved to champion. 885 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: Eight on eight targets. Yeah, seventy three yards nine point 886 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: one average, two touchdowns. I did the math on him, 887 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: like he had had more than six targets in a 888 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: game in about seven eight weeks, and then I think 889 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: to the point of like getting him going early in 890 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: three of the last four coming into this game, he 891 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,439 Speaker 1: had two targets or less in three of the last four. 892 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: So they had to get him going. He's their best playmaker. 893 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: You have to get him going. 894 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: They had to. And think about Terry Man. He's so 895 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 2: just humble, doesn't most number one receivers. Him and Santana 896 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: Moss are. I've been around a lot of number one receivers. 897 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,919 Speaker 2: Those guys are just like they don't complain. They don't 898 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 2: go to the offensive coordinator. They're not yelling at their 899 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 2: quarterback like you've seen it. We've all seen it where 900 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 2: on the TV copy they'll show a receiver slamming his head, 901 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: slamming his helmet on the ground, you know, being demonstrative, 902 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 2: showing up their quarterback, showing up the offensive coordinator, showing 903 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 2: up the receivers coach, Hey get me the ball. I'm 904 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,720 Speaker 2: open cussing out everybody. Those two guys be number one guys. 905 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 3: They don't do that. 906 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 2: And Terry hasn't complained about you know, games where whether 907 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 2: you only had one target, two cargets, whatever the case 908 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: may be. He just wants to win football games and 909 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 2: he knows, you know, he can impact games. So I'm 910 00:43:59,280 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: happy for him. 911 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: I just I want to go back to the crowd 912 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: for a moment, because they were as locked in as 913 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: I remember, like they knew the storylines right. They wanted 914 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: Terry to get the ball early. The second he guy 915 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: that they're chanting his name. They came and brought it 916 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: on the first possession and caused two false start penalties 917 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: against Tennessee. They knew that this team needed to start better. 918 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: They were part of They were a twelfth man. 919 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 3: They were the uh, the energy of the crowd. 920 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 2: You think a game like this, this just goes to 921 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 2: show a year ago, two years, three years ago, you 922 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 2: know that that stadium would have been half empty. So 923 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 2: for the state the fans to be out and droves 924 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: to come out and support the team the way they 925 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 2: supported the team and realizing and saying, hey, we need 926 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 2: to help cheer our team to victory. 927 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 3: Impact. 928 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, the two falalse Star penalties that the 929 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans had to start their drive up. They went 930 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: from first to ten. They were second and third and 931 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: twenty It. 932 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: Was like third and twenty two on the first drive. Yeah, 933 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: and then they they classically lost their minds. I mean, 934 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: I know, the thing snowballed on them, but Tony Pollard 935 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: at eight carries, which I don't know if you've watched 936 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: us play this year, but that's on you guys to 937 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: figure out how running the ball eleven times over the 938 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: course of a game was going to make any sense whatsoever. 939 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: They played right into Washington's hands. Like I know, people 940 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: think that Washington's pass defense isn't great. Yeah, their top 941 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: ten pass defense. It's the run defense. It's been a problem. 942 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: And Tennessee the score got away from them, and then 943 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: they got away from the run and they were playing 944 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: right into Washington's hands. 945 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 3: The whole way it was. 946 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 2: And you know the Parlor had that fumble earlier that 947 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 2: that kind of helped help also get us another touchdown 948 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 2: put us ahead of them. And you mentioned the score 949 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 2: getting away from them, but at one point it was 950 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 2: twenty eight ten, So now the run game could be 951 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 2: a part. 952 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: Of the They got twenty eight thirteen. It was the 953 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: third quarter, and I'm like, I turned you and I go, 954 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,240 Speaker 1: this is two score. 955 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 3: Game, right right right? 956 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, he could get the get the run game back 957 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 2: into into the mix. But the defense, to their credit, 958 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 2: I thought they did an excellent job not allowing Tony 959 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 2: to have those explosive type of runs, which he he 960 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 2: had been doing. He had a he had what one 961 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: hundred and nineteen yards and a week ago against the 962 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 2: Houston Texas, and he's an explosive player. 963 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 3: He broke tackles, he. 964 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 2: Made people miss, but they didn't allow him to get gone, 965 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 2: allows to really get going either. 966 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: No, I thought they did a very good job unsettling him. 967 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: He's someone that holds the ball a little too long, 968 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: is apt to make mistakes early in the season, kind 969 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: of like low light cartoonish type turnovers. He hadn't had 970 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: those in recent weeks, but over the last few weeks 971 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,919 Speaker 1: since he got the starting job back, his passer rating 972 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,479 Speaker 1: was like one ten. He was coming off a jue 973 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: seventy five to two touchdown game and a win over Houston, 974 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: like he was playing his best ball, and Washington's defense 975 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: really unsettled him early and often in that game. 976 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 2: I was one of the things that I noticed, even 977 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 2: in these these three games where his his QB rating 978 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 2: was a lot higher rating a lot higher, he had 979 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 2: been sacked twenty times. You mentioned him hold on to 980 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 2: the football for a long period of time. He was 981 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 2: a lot of times he was. You take away his 982 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 2: first read if it wasn't there. His natural inclination was 983 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 2: to look the bill from the procket. He wasn't going 984 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 2: to go through progressions, especially if you're playing his own covers. 985 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 2: That really hurt him in terms of not wanting to 986 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: throw footballs into tight windows. There were there were times 987 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 2: where he did that against us. We had we had 988 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 2: him on a on a sack on a third and 989 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 2: I think twenty play and he was able to avoid 990 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: that and he hit he had really right before the 991 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: half that that got that allowed them to get there 992 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 2: their first points to the ball game that touchdown eventually. 993 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 3: But think about will Levis. 994 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 2: He does hold on to the ball a long period 995 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 2: of time, and that's something they're gonna have to coach 996 00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: about of him. You're gonna have to be able to 997 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 2: if he's one thing, to hold on to the ball, 998 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 2: but at least be hold on to the ball and 999 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 2: making quicker decisions, going to your reads a lot quicker, 1000 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: and you. 1001 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 3: Know, but he did. 1002 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 2: He did have a couple of nice throws too, where 1003 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 2: it's like he layered the football over some some defenders 1004 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 2: and made some nice throws. And so there were there were. 1005 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: He had a couple of moments in that game, but 1006 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 2: not enough, not enough to win. 1007 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: Frankie Louvou Dante Fowler if they may have taken a 1008 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 1: sack away because of a play, but they're both right 1009 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: on the cusp of nine plus sacks, so they both 1010 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: could end up double digit sacks. 1011 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 3: Easily by the end of the season. 1012 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: The last time that's happened nine plus is twenty sixteen, 1013 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Carrigan and Trent Murphy. So remember at the beginning 1014 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: of the year when everybody said, where's pass rush couldna 1015 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: come from? Where the sacks could come from? They don't 1016 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 1: have prominent pass rushers, obvious like double digit sack guys. 1017 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: Joe Whitten Company had figured it out. 1018 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 3: They have, and they figured it out through a scheming up. Guys. 1019 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 2: You know, bring in bringing five a lot, blitzing Frankie 1020 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: and Bobby through the through the a gaps and doing 1021 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 2: some what you call Cross Dogs and and. 1022 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,720 Speaker 3: Dante Foler. 1023 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 2: They mentioned the work that he's done with Ryan Carrigan 1024 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 2: and how Ryan Kerrigan, who you just talked about my formertainment, 1025 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 2: who was just just a great pro franchise all time 1026 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 2: leader in sacks taught, is teaching him and really emphasizes 1027 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 2: how to finish on a quarterback, how to continue to ban, 1028 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 2: how to do those things. And you know, followers, followers 1029 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 2: been tremendous, you know for us, and there was some 1030 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 2: concern like, Okay, who's gonna be Yeah, the pass rusher, 1031 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 2: and those two guys have have done it consistently throughout 1032 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: the season. 1033 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: When they signed him, you know, because we played him 1034 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: in Dallas under that defense for the last couple of years. 1035 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: Like he's a dangerous player, but he's a situational player. 1036 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: Not for this team. He's been a full time dangerous 1037 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: pass rusher for them, probably a little more out of 1038 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: necessity that they need to maybe the Dallas Dallas has 1039 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: uh they had George Armstrong and they had DeMarcus Lawrence, 1040 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: and they had Micah Parsons. They didn't need him out 1041 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 1: on the field as often as this team needs him 1042 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: out on the field. 1043 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: But he has really stepped up this year. The injury situation. 1044 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 2: I think Pharaoh was injured and Drin smised a couple 1045 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 2: of games, if a memory serves me correctly, So that 1046 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 2: aided in Dante playing a lot more snaps than he 1047 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 2: did a season ago with Dallas. But also it's just 1048 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 2: one thing to play a lot more snaps, but what 1049 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 2: are you doing with those STAPs? And he took advantage 1050 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 2: those STAPs and he was making an impact. He's it 1051 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,439 Speaker 2: was games man at one point, what it was, seven 1052 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 2: or eight sacks in seven games. Yeah, so just like constantly, 1053 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 2: and even even yesterday. 1054 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: And he was hurt early and these people forget this part. 1055 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 3: The end of camp. He was hurt a little bit. 1056 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: I think it took him a couple of weeks to 1057 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 1: feel healthy before he got into the season. 1058 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 3: And even yesterday he made impactful plays. Yeah. 1059 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't get the sack, he took one away 1060 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: from him, but he still had an impact on the game. 1061 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: I've been work shopping nicknames for him. 1062 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 1063 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 2: I'll let you off work shot. I got watch for him. 1064 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 2: Watch watch you mention them here, I'll give you lets. 1065 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: I'll give you one. Well, I only have really one 1066 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 2: that I like. The others I didn't like so much. 1067 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 2: This is one I've been working on Louvu too. We 1068 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 2: gotta get a nickname for him. He's really for Fowler, 1069 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 2: so like you never know where he's coming from, right, 1070 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 2: Like he's come. 1071 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 1: Up the middle of round, kind of like I kind 1072 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: of got you. Yeah, he's always like he's in your nightmares. 1073 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: He's always going to show up somewhere when you least 1074 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: expect it. He's the Boogeyman. So that's what I've been 1075 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: work shopping on him. But you know, I want him 1076 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: to like that before I would actually use it. So 1077 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm actually glad we're doing this here because, like I see, 1078 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: he's like the guy who you never know where he's 1079 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: coming from. He just kind of shows up. Sometimes we're 1080 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 1: calling these plays, I can't believe he's where he is, 1081 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: Like when he shows up and makes the play on 1082 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback. 1083 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 2: You say this for Fouler Fowler, Yeah, I think that's 1084 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 2: more suitable for So. 1085 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: I think Louvu there's some kind of like lightning quickness 1086 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: thing that fits more for him. So I've been thinking 1087 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 1: about him too. But there's something that like there's something 1088 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: about like the energy and the lightning that I want 1089 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 1: to like lean into. I like the Boogeyman for Fowler. 1090 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: You just never know where he's coming. He's in your nightmares. 1091 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: You don't know where he's coming from. 1092 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 2: Let's let's let the uh the viewers chime man, yeah 1093 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 2: and they hate it. Tell me we all like the Boogeyman. Yeah, 1094 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 2: the Boogeyman for follow Yeah. And if you can't, what 1095 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 2: nickname would you give? 1096 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? We need a good one. 1097 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: There's something about his quickness though that I want to 1098 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: come and the energy he brings that I want to 1099 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: kind of lean into it. 1100 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 3: I haven't found anything I like yet, so have to 1101 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 3: see what he takes. Suggestions though, question for you, you 1102 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 3: you're a smart guy. Thank you. The Alchemists. What would 1103 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 3: that be appropriate for? Like Alchemists? I just want to 1104 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 3: say that, Yeah, you're familiar with the book Alchemists. Yeah? 1105 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: What what was the guy who mixes the formulas and 1106 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 1: comes out with the whatever serum that kills everybody? Yeah, 1107 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: let's see alchemist. Maybe that sounds more like dan Quinn. 1108 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 3: Together like Cakesbury. That seems like a coaching one. We'll 1109 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 3: put that one it all right? 1110 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: So, uh, we hit the bye week I think I 1111 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: think it goes without saying they needed to win. It 1112 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: feels really good the way they won. 1113 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 3: Sure like that. 1114 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: It wasn't just a I was gonna be happy with 1115 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: no style points. Let's just end this losing streak, get 1116 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: back on track. Everybody feel good about themselves. Well, this 1117 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: is different. This feels like the week four Commanders as 1118 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: opposed to the one that's been kind of getting through 1119 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: the last month or so. So it feels really good 1120 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 1: as they turned the corner here. What's important for them 1121 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: over the next week as they take a little time off. 1122 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 2: You'll continue to get healthy this this week. I'm assuming 1123 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 2: the guys will have the majority of the week off. 1124 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 2: But Steel stayed locked in as much as possible to 1125 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 2: take take some time get away from it. 1126 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 3: But I understand when you come back, don't don't. 1127 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 2: Look at it as, hey, we got a we got 1128 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 2: a four game run, all these types of things. Look 1129 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 2: at it as let's prepare to go into a hostile 1130 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 2: environment against New Orleans Saints. First and foremost, how can 1131 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 2: we continue to build off what we just had, what 1132 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 2: we just did against the Tennessee Titans. 1133 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 3: Can we take this show on the road, And what are. 1134 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 2: The things we we had a great we had a 1135 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 2: great outing office. Defensively, you know some things we need 1136 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,879 Speaker 2: to show up from a special team standpoint, and there's 1137 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 2: some things that even within the win, that we can 1138 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 2: do better. Yeah that's uh, let's sharpen, sharpen our tools. 1139 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 2: Get ready to go down to New Orleans. They're gonna 1140 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a tough environment. And take that game 1141 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 2: that we just had a Tennessee against the Tennessee Titans 1142 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,919 Speaker 2: and build upon that against a New Orleans Saints team 1143 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 2: that are they're gonna be tough. 1144 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 1: I would like to see how they think about kick 1145 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 1: returns now that Eckler's out for at least a few 1146 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: more weeks, because he's been extremely productive on kick returns. 1147 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: He was top five, averaging almost thirty yards per return. 1148 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: They were getting pretty good field position. Yesterday was a 1149 00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,399 Speaker 1: sign of they miss him. So I want to see 1150 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: how they think about kick returns moving forward here as 1151 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: well over the last month of the season. That's one 1152 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: thing to probably look at and try to improve because 1153 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 1: the field position on the traditional kickoffs wasn't as good 1154 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 1: as it had been with Eckler, who had been exceptional 1155 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: in this New kickoff, Phil go field goal kicker. 1156 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 3: Yes, you know Zang Gonzalez. 1157 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 2: He had been he had been pretty consistent, pretty accurate, 1158 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 2: but yesterday he had he had a rough outing. Is 1159 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,359 Speaker 2: that something you just you know, chalk it off to, hey, 1160 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 2: he just had he had a bad day, or or 1161 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 2: do we need to make a move there? Those those 1162 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 2: are things a deal they'll definitely spend some time on 1163 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 2: and try to figure out and you know, kind of 1164 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 2: see what happens. 1165 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, Austin Cybert is on ir so he has to 1166 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: miss at least three more games, so he can't come 1167 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: back for the next few weeks. As for the Saints, 1168 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of hard to know what you're 1169 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,959 Speaker 1: gonna get because they fired their coach in the middle 1170 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: of the season. There's always either it either goes the 1171 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 1: wrong way or it bumps up. And it bumped up 1172 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: for them. Actually, they were playing better closer to what 1173 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 1: they were at the beginning of the season. They lost 1174 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: it home to the Ram, but they were very competitive 1175 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 1: in it. So things have kind of straightened out and 1176 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: they have explosive players on that team. Derek Caarr can 1177 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: light it up, Alvin Kamara can light it up. There 1178 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: are explosives, and that's a very tough place. 1179 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 2: Yes, four touchdowns and four games for them, but they 1180 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 2: did just lose their Swiss Army knife potentially for the 1181 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 2: season and take some hill. Yeah, so we we don't 1182 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,479 Speaker 2: we don't know, you know, if that's gonna be the case. 1183 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,800 Speaker 2: But I know I saw, I remember seeing something yesterday 1184 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 2: when they mentioned him potentially being lost for the season. 1185 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 1186 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 2: It's uh, you said, they guess they got some players 1187 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 2: and some explosive players at that. 1188 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 3: They do. 1189 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: And that's fun stadium too. It's a great place to play. 1190 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: You think like our fans were terrific yesterday. Their fans 1191 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 1: always show up dressed up, ready to go. It's great, 1192 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: lathered up. Yeah, you know, consider how cold it is 1193 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 1: right now. You want to fly down and go root 1194 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: the team on down there. You'll have a good time 1195 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, trust me on that. And the stadium's 1196 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: amazing experience. Let's talk about the playoffs a little bit. 1197 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: I know this team likes to stay locked in, but 1198 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: four games to go, if the season ended today, they'd 1199 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: be in. The path has gotten a little narrower because 1200 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: Philadelphia just won't lose anybody. I was hoping for some 1201 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,879 Speaker 1: help from Baltimore yesterday. We didn't get it. Philadelphia hasn't 1202 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,280 Speaker 1: lost them two months. They're really rolling right now. Obviously 1203 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: Washington will get another shot at them in a few weeks, 1204 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: but it may not be enough because they need to 1205 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 1: lose a couple more times to give Washington this chance. 1206 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: So it's screaming wild card. I'm sure you believe it too. 1207 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 3: It. 1208 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: I think the people in the building believe this. We 1209 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: take care of our business. None of the rest of 1210 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: this matters. But it's narrow now because the NFC North 1211 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: teams are all top three having great seasons. Unless they 1212 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: beat each other up or knock one of them off enough, 1213 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: the spot to get is a seventh seed. 1214 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 3: I mean, that's where it is right now. 1215 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: So Washington's got to either hope for the NFC West 1216 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: to remain really messed up and none of those teams 1217 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: emerge as a wildcard team and there's just a division winner, 1218 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 1: or they're gonna have to just kind of do it 1219 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: on their own and just get in that way. 1220 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 2: I think you folk on what you need to do, 1221 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 2: focus on your handling your own business. You're not you 1222 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 2: don't want to go into a situation where you're limping 1223 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 2: into the playoffs. You're not playing good football going into 1224 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 2: the playoffs, you got to get help from somebody else. 1225 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 2: We're in a situation where we control our own destiny 1226 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 2: by if we win football games. Keep winning football games, 1227 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 2: we'll be in the playoffs. Where that ends up, whether 1228 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 2: it's sixth seed, seventh seed, fifth seed, hey, some crazy 1229 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 2: thing where the Philadelphia Eagles all of a sudden start 1230 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 2: playing extremely bad football. 1231 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 3: Maybe we end up as a two seed. You never know. 1232 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 3: But focus on what you can. 1233 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 2: Control, which is the games that's being played on that 1234 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 2: given game day. December fifteenth, geinst New Orleans Saints Setember 1235 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 2: twenty second against the Philadelphia Eagles, December twenty ninth against 1236 00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons, and to be determined date against the Dallas Boys. 1237 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 2: In Jerry's world, that's right, those are the things we focus. 1238 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 2: That's gonna be a make good game for this team. 1239 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 2: That's the one to remember, the one that got away 1240 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 2: this year too. 1241 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 3: You're look at too far here. Let's focus on this. 1242 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 3: I hear you. 1243 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: Did you think, because there are four games away, they 1244 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 1: are in the playoffs as it speak. If they go 1245 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: two and two, they probably get in. If they go 1246 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: three and one, they're almost definitively get in. If they 1247 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: went out, they might have a shot at the division. 1248 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: When we broke camp, did you think we'd be sitting 1249 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: here and going playoffs? 1250 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 2: I'll say this, and I'm on record, when we did 1251 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 2: the Command Center show, we predicted wins. 1252 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 3: I think I had predict us maybe about ten wins. 1253 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, So so you're saying, yeah. 1254 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 3: Pretty much, I eleven, Yeah, go back. 1255 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: Ten would be dependent on Philadelphia. Dallas may or may 1256 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: not win a division, but definitively would be the playoffs. 1257 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 2: Philadelphia, I thought I thought I'd say this. I thought 1258 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 2: Philadelphia was going to win our division. I thought they were. 1259 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 2: They had the best, best football team, most talent top 1260 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 2: to bottom. 1261 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1262 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: So, and Saquon is streaking towards at bare minimum offensive 1263 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, and I'd argue, MVP, Yeah, the 1264 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: way they're going he is, Yeah, the. 1265 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 3: Way they're going right now? 1266 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: All right after what you saw yesterday, which was closer 1267 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: to the beginning of the season, which I think was 1268 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: a little surprising how good it was at the beginning 1269 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 1: of the year. Is their room to improve? 1270 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 2: There's always room to improve in what way you anytime 1271 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 2: you win a game, lose a game, you're gonna always 1272 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 2: look at how can we continue to improve? There's a 1273 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 2: maybe there's some some points left out on the board. 1274 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 2: There's a you know, from an individual standpoint, can I 1275 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 2: block a little bit better? Can I catch a little 1276 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 2: bit better? Can I do something better? 1277 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: They should? 1278 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Defensively, you allow the the Tennessee types of score right 1279 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 2: before the half to give them some momentum. 1280 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 3: You know, what can we do to shure up not 1281 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 3: giving up. 1282 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 2: The the bigger plays, the plays that we gave up 1283 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 2: in the passing game. So there's always rome to improve, 1284 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 2: regardless of how how how you won and how many 1285 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 2: you won by. 1286 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 3: That's the mentality you got to continue to improve. There 1287 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,919 Speaker 3: were two turnovers left on the field. 1288 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Had his first inception get some more interceptions? 1289 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see, all right, But. 1290 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: It feels good going into the buy off a win 1291 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: and a win like that, Yeah, more than anything, a 1292 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 1: win like that, absolutely all right. What are you doing 1293 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: for the bye week? 1294 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1295 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,919 Speaker 2: I'm relaxing, man, trying to get my life together. It's 1296 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 2: been a I'll finally get a chance to be at 1297 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 2: home with my kids. For a full week. 1298 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, you had quite a weekend London over there, 1299 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: went to the Michigan Ohio State game, didn't get mased, 1300 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: showed up the next day, went to the Tennessee Washington game, 1301 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: and then that night goes and gets into the Christmas 1302 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: spirit by seeing Mariah Carey. Well, you shoved it all 1303 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:00,919 Speaker 1: in what weekend? Man? 1304 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 3: Man, I'm just I'm just, you know, living a dream 1305 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 3: and I guess I do. That was Mariah Good they 1306 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 3: played on DV. It was a good guy. 1307 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, everybody that'll do it for the booth reviewer, 1308 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: We'll see you after the New Orleans game.