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Speaker 1: Cody White about seventeen times in a row.

437
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Speaker 2: That's a good point.

438
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Speaker 1: But anyways, we're gonna take a break. We'll be back

439
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 1: with more. We'll get to that Pat Meyer interview.

440
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Speaker 2: Cool like it.

441
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously on the field, he's hope you thought in

442
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 3: terms of big powerful man ath Weddeck. He's just you know, learning,

443
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 3: learning the techniques and learning, you know, this game and

444
00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 3: all that right now.

445
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Speaker 1: So you interested to see what he's gonna look like

446
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 1: in a game. I mean, it's one thing to be

447
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: out here Steelers against Steelers, but you see some things

448
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: there that's okay. I want to see that that rushing

449
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 1: in a game.

450
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, not just him with all the guys, you know,

451
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 3: with all the guys. We had a new, a new

452
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 3: group this year. So yeah, I mean obviously we're looking

453
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: forward to playing different color jerseys and seeing what we

454
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Speaker 3: can do. And yeah, obviously it be it'll be a

455
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 3: big you know, it'll be a big step for him

456
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,360
Speaker 3: and for us getting out there playing playing someone else.

457
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 3: We're gonna see that here a few days.

458
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Speaker 1: The depth that you have on your offensive line is

459
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: kind of crazy when you look at where maybe you

460
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 1: were at when you first got here a couple of

461
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: years ago through and now you get guys backing guys

462
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Speaker 1: up who have started and started before.

463
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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, you know we've done a good job here,

464
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 3: you know, with coach t and Omar and management and

465
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Speaker 3: ownership and you know, investing in in in the line,

466
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Speaker 3: you know. So I mean, but when you look at

467
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: most teams in NFL, uh, depth that the offensive line

468
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: is big for those teams that you know historically win

469
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: games in that because what happened with us last year,

470
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 3: you know, it was kind of a free thing, but

471
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 3: nobody nobody getting injured, and you know that's best starting

472
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 3: the same combination for all the games. You know, guys

473
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: are going to go down, so it's going to happen

474
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 3: in the game prior to games. All that stuff, So uh,

475
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: you know, having quality depth up front is obviously a big,

476
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: big part of of of of of winning winning and

477
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: just having that. Having that obviously you want to keep

478
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 3: your guys helping and doing that and everybody that's gonna happen.

479
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: Can you have too many centers on your rock. That's

480
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: the way it looks right now.

481
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 3: The guys like James Daniels, I mean, the James can

482
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Speaker 3: snap the ball.

483
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 1: He wasn't.

484
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: He can snap and he's not even snapping it right now.

485
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 3: So now we have we have a you have a

486
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Speaker 3: plethorat of the guys that play multiple positions, which is good.

487
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're not a pencil in day one starter,

488
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 3: you know, at this level, I mean you have to

489
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 3: you have to be able to play the spots, you know,

490
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,959
Speaker 3: like we got guys that can play practically five too.

491
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 3: You know, it's just the rare. But no, it's that's

492
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: that's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing

493
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: as it's a good thing for us.

494
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Speaker 1: Gives you the flexibility to move one of your centers

495
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: to maybe fall back.

496
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 3: A little bit, and we'll see how that works too.

497
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 3: But Cag's done. A next job done the next job

498
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: with us up front too, So you know, just learning

499
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 3: the system over the year and being backing up Mason

500
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 3: last year and just you know, it's smart, like the

501
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 3: system and the techniques and all that. Now you can

502
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: get out there and we can you know, we've been

503
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: messing around with him and putting them in different spots

504
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 3: and doing some things with him at the full back

505
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: and kind of energize not only him, but kind of

506
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 3: energized the offense too. Just to have somebody like that, you.

507
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 1: Know, do those techniques like you saw, like when he

508
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: caught the pass over Friday night lights, your offensive lineman

509
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: went nuts.

510
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the gaterbacks are on. So the quarterback was

511
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: running downfield to getting the high five, and that's you know,

512
00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 3: it's uh, that's the game that they all grew up in.

513
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 3: And you know, something like that happens for you know,

514
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 3: a land On like that. Everybody gets excited for order.

515
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: You know, is that go to that position flexibility though

516
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: that if you can do I mean, if you're just

517
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: a center, it's awfully difficult to get a hat on

518
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: game day, especially when you have multiple guys.

519
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: You can play center, for sure.

520
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: But if you can do something all that as well, the.

521
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 3: More you can I mean, the more you can do

522
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 3: the obviously, the more you can do anywhere, the more

523
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 3: valuable you're going to be to to you know, to

524
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: this team, to our team, to whatever team you're on.

525
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: I mean, the more you can do. You know, there's

526
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: the one position backups that's kind of the rarity anymore.

527
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Speaker 2: You know.

528
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 3: And now we're allowed to dress were dressing eat now,

529
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: so you can have those occasionally. You can have those

530
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 3: guys that before when you dress outline then you need

531
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: to just flip bad and the backup had to play

532
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 3: the all three in tier in your swiming tacky to play.

533
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 3: Now you can carry eight, so you know, you got

534
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: a little bit more flexibility. But now the more you

535
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: can do and the easier it's gonna be for you

536
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Speaker 3: to get on the field.

537
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Speaker 1: For sure. Can you guys carry over that physical mentality

538
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: that you developed in this second half of last year

539
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: in the run game? And can that? I know, coach

540
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: like saying, you know, one year just not carry over

541
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: to the next. Guys created something last year, So yes, again,

542
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: we you.

543
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: Know, we're up right around there at to buy. We

544
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: kind of had a you know a little bit of

545
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: a heart and heart and you know, if we're gonna

546
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: get the scene turned around, it's you know, we're gonna

547
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: have to It's it's now. You know, there's time. I've

548
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 3: learned in the time of like you know, camp and

549
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 3: early on, learning the different techniques and the schemes that

550
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: we were running, trying to figure out who we were.

551
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 3: You know that that's that's behind us. We gotta you know,

552
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: it needs to be done now. And we all got

553
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: to buy in. And they bought in and not just

554
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: the line, everybody that you know, everybody on our set

555
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: of the ball bought into it. And so can we

556
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: carried over? That's what I mean. Yes, I mean that's

557
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: what you know. Again, it's a new year, but it's uh,

558
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: we got a couple a couple of new pieces in there,

559
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: but no, the mentality is no different than how we

560
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: ended this season.

561
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Speaker 1: I see a lot of guys out there working after

562
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: prayer that I haven't seen any group working after practice

563
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: like you like, they all stay out there and work

564
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: on Is that does that come from you or is

565
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: that just them?

566
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: Oh? I mean it's it's it's you know, just the

567
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: way they are. I mean they you know, they want

568
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: to be great. They're gonna have to put extra time in.

569
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the way the guys are driven, you know,

570
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 3: and it's from them being you know, having that leadership

571
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: and you know that not not only you know, the

572
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: vocal leadership, just like that, Hey we're gonna stay out here,

573
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: we're gonna work on this or ten or fifteen minutes

574
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: and get more reps at it. You know, that's that's

575
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 3: what professional sports and that you know, the NFL's it is,

576
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: you know, with with offensive line. So now that's them,

577
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: that's them want to do it. And heck, we're already

578
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 3: out there. You know, they're out there for over two

579
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: hours and practicing and they're like, hey, we're gonna we're

580
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: gonna stayt here and get another ten or fifteen minutes,

581
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: whether that's working on SATs, working on techniques, working on

582
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: the run game stuff. You know, they're out to doing that.

583
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: That's that's from them, and that's from the veterans and

584
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: the leadership that they that that they have.

585
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: And I know when when Damn was a rookie, there

586
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: were some thoughts of it didn't work out that way,

587
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: but you tried to get him over at right tackle

588
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: a little bit for a couple of days and because

589
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: of the injury stuff, he ended up pumping right back

590
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: to the left. Is there are there any plans to

591
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: move Broderick can right at all? Or is he just

592
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: a left tackle?

593
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 3: I mean, right now we're focusing again having a young guy.

594
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: Right now, we have him just as a as a

595
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 3: left right now, just you know, wanting to get you know,

596
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 3: wanting to get his left side sets in and you

597
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 3: know the way he's you know, the run, run game,

598
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: in pass game. So right now we're we're having him

599
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: as you know, as a as a left tackle, and

600
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: that's where we're wrapping up to do that. Uh, you

601
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: know what, you know what the future will hold him.

602
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 3: He's gonna be a obviously we're really really high on

603
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: the kid. He's gonna he's gonna be in there at

604
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 3: some point he's gonna be playing. And uh, we're we're

605
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 3: having to focus right now, just talking about when there's

606
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 3: one specific side. So you know, when you flip them

607
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 3: over to the right side, it's like you know, it's

608
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: it's not like flipping over the corner. Your feet are

609
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 3: all your feet or backwards or hands or backwards. Everything

610
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: is opposite of what you're used to doing so right

611
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 3: now we're just using them.

612
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: And you talk about that about the step and saw

613
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: the stuff from like Tampa. You guys play them this

614
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: week and Tristram works if he's kind of struggling with

615
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: that move from the right to the left, talk to

616
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: Max Starks about heat. But it's not as easy as

617
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: everybody seemed when you when you.

618
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: Know, when you take you know whatever, tens of thousands

619
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: of reps and you only play one side, and they're like,

620
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: well just look over the right side. It's like everything's backwards.

621
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: You know, everything backwards. You know, especially if that's if

622
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: you've always played that position. You know, if you come

623
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: into the league or whatever and you're you're it's the starter,

624
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 3: you're taking reps at that position. You know, the guys

625
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: that are backups have to be able to flip, and

626
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: they do that throughout practice. You know, they flip the

627
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: right and right and left, so they get you know,

628
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: those guys are a little bit easier to to flip with.

629
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Speaker 3: Then you know, a person say that's only taking the

630
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 3: one side of ops. It is it's uh, it's it's uh,

631
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: it's difficult because ever again, everything's like backwards. You you're

632
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: tiny of your hands are different. You know, you're if

633
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: somebody's like a like a right hand dominant guy and

634
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: he moved him to the other side, he may have

635
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: been an inside the hand dominant guy. Now he's got

636
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: to become an outside hand. So just you know, it's

637
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: just different. It's like anything else. I mean, that's you know,

638
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: it takes it takes time to and reps to to

639
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: try to become perfect at everything we do.

640
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: By the same token, I've seen Spencer Anderson all over

641
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: the wine, I mean, is that kind of what makes

642
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: him unique.

643
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what we like to when when we

644
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: drafted him out of Maryland there that he he played

645
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: all he played all five you know, and he's you

646
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: know at all center. He played, he got a yeah,

647
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: he got a report two at center. To uh again,

648
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: you've got a lot of guys that play center by

649
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: think that, let's put him in there. Let's put him

650
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: in there at center. So he had the snap is good,

651
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: he looked good at there, So uh No, a guy

652
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: like that versatility, that's going to help him. You know,

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Speaker 3: whether it be this year down the line, whatever, you're

654
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Speaker 3: able to do that that your your values, you know, Skylle,

655
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Speaker 3: because you know, if you can do that, there's your

656
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Speaker 3: value to the team and the team you're on, you know,

657
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: skyrockets because you've got a guy like that on game

658
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Speaker 3: day that can back up multiple positions, and you know,

659
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Speaker 3: that's obviously valuable to us.

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Speaker 1: Most of the guys that you've seen do that play

661
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Speaker 1: four position, a lot of them don't play left tackle,

662
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Speaker 1: but we've seen him at left tack.

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Speaker 3: Or or they play whatever and don't play center, right right,

664
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Speaker 3: But that it's rare to have. It's rare to have

665
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Speaker 3: somebody that does all five and you play all five

666
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Speaker 3: like that, and we've you know, we've played them most

667
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Speaker 3: at tackle right now, we've played them mostly at tackle.

668
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: But he's gotten ample reps, especially this past week of

669
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Speaker 3: guard because in this preseason, these preseason games, these guys,

670
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Speaker 3: a lot of these younger guys are gonna play a

671
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Speaker 3: lot of you know, they're gonna play a lot of time.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna play the majority of the reps, I would imagine. So, uh,

673
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Speaker 3: you know, that's why we flip, we go right, we

674
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Speaker 3: go left, he plays tackle. We do this, you know,

675
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Speaker 3: just so that hey, you know, it's even in the

676
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Speaker 3: preseason somebody goes down, it's like, bro, you gotta go

677
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: play this position now, okay, And that's a shame to

678
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Speaker 3: put somebody in there if they never haven't had the

679
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Speaker 3: playing that position. Yea, yeah, so that but we try

680
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Speaker 3: to we try to move them around and and uh

681
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Speaker 3: I try.

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Speaker 1: To get some different spots and we give you get

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Speaker 1: into the game though you Okay, we're gonna rep you here.

684
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Speaker 1: This is where you're gonna play this week. That we're

685
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Speaker 1: gonna do this as an emergency.

686
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Speaker 3: But you always gotta be ready. You always got be ready. Again,

687
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Speaker 3: if you're not one of those Pennsylvan's five starters right

688
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Speaker 3: off the hick gun, you gotta be able to play

689
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Speaker 3: multiple positions and be ready for you know, your mindset.

690
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Speaker 3: Maybe hey, I'm backing up in this spot. But something

691
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Speaker 3: happens a game, and one or two things happened in

692
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Speaker 3: a game, and next thing you know, you're playing somewhere

693
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Speaker 3: you're not you know. So that's why there's a training

694
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Speaker 3: camp like this is a good time to get these

695
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Speaker 3: guys playing multiple positions in multiple spots.

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Speaker 1: So they got like we do the radio show from

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Speaker 1: the press box during during practice and it's almost like

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Speaker 1: where's Waldo at Togay? Look, we're looking where Spencer at.

699
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Speaker 1: Where's he at today?

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Speaker 3: Where's that number? Where's that seven four that we like

701
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: moving around again? That's that's uh. It's beneficial for us

702
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: and it's good for the kid to to do that,

703
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Speaker 3: to get reps all over. So then that way once

704
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Speaker 3: he's uh, because he you know, as he gets older

705
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Speaker 3: and matures and learns the game more and more and

706
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Speaker 3: figures it out more and more, and then we'll set

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Speaker 3: them down into you know, a position for him. But

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Speaker 3: right now he's uh, I think he's equally as good

709
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Speaker 3: inside as he is out right now, it's saying something

710
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: that is getting him being mature kid coming in that

711
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Speaker 3: and then listening to listen to our guys and listen.

712
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Speaker 3: That's the big thing as our room is you know,

713
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Speaker 3: we may not have like a lot of rock guys,

714
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Speaker 3: but that they help each other regardless if they're in

715
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Speaker 3: competition or not. Because I know that's you know, it's

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Speaker 3: good for the for the unit and good for the

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Speaker 3: for the team too. So they the leadership that we've got,

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Speaker 3: some of those veteran leaderships that we have is is

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Speaker 3: very beneficial. Footage young guys.

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Speaker 1: That was Steelers offensive line coach uh bat Meyer earlier

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Speaker 1: today with me. Yeah, of course, we're outside the locker

722
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Speaker 1: room right there. You you hear the cards in the

723
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Speaker 1: back of it in a while. But good stuff there

724
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Speaker 1: from him. He was just, you know, very good. Look, hey,

725
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Speaker 1: Broderick Jones. You know, we're taking things slow with him.

726
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Speaker 1: He's going to but we're keeping him on the left side.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to start switching him back and forth, uh,

728
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Speaker 1: like we've seen with some other guys, because well, we

729
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Speaker 1: want him.

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Speaker 2: To be the left tackle of the future, right, I mean,

731
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Speaker 2: that makes all the sense in the world. I mean,

732
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Speaker 2: they're this was so true with last year's first round pick,

733
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Speaker 2: who happens to be the starting quarterback. Now that you

734
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Speaker 2: have to kind of balance getting them ready for Week

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Speaker 2: one and getting them you know, the big picture for

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Speaker 2: the organization, and they drafted Jones. They want him to

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Speaker 2: be the left tackle for ten twelve years and go

738
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Speaker 2: down in history is one of their best linemen ever.

739
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Speaker 2: And the best way to do that is bringing him along.

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Speaker 2: I do want to say slow, but not just throwing

741
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Speaker 2: him into the fire in Week one and see Steevie

742
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Speaker 2: sinks Ter swims.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've seen that all. Just just get him

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Speaker 1: in there and let him, you know, let him get it,

745
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Speaker 1: get it over with. No, you don't want to ruin

746
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Speaker 1: his confidence, right, Hey, go out there and play Bosa

747
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Speaker 1: and then play get Miles Garrett, you know, Max Crosby

748
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Speaker 1: and Max Crosby like you could. You could hurt the

749
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Speaker 1: kids overall confidence, right, and if he's not ready yet,

750
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Speaker 1: you know, and I've said this over and over at

751
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Speaker 1: that position, I mean, if you have a wide receiver

752
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: that just runs go round Jalen Hyatt with the Giants,

753
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Speaker 1: I mean he runs a.

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Speaker 2: Four to two five, but he's not a developer outrunner. Well,

755
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Speaker 2: he can go out there twenty snaps a game and

756
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Speaker 2: run twenty routes. Go down, Bryant, just go out there back,

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Speaker 2: give me fifteen twenty snaps a game and then right,

758
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Speaker 2: you know, even Keanu Benton is going to be used situationally,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, there's.

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Speaker 1: No such thing as a situational left tackle.

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Speaker 2: No or outside corner for that matter. To be honest

762
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Speaker 2: with you, If the Steelers first two picks, and the

763
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Speaker 2: other thing about those positions is in this Twitter ex world,

764
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Speaker 2: you know, social media, those guys might have twenty snaps

765
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Speaker 2: in a row that are beautiful, and then pickings catch

766
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Speaker 2: ones over Porter's head and I get a.

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Speaker 1: Bad du They really missed him, right, right right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, so no one puts the reps in that

769
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Speaker 2: are boring nice coverage, or you do your job as

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Speaker 2: a left tackle. So those are the two positions that

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Speaker 2: if you just watch highlights and don't watch coach his film,

772
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Speaker 2: are going to look the worst in their rookie camp.

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Speaker 2: They just always are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but covered a lot of ground there with Pat.

775
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Speaker 2: That was good talk.

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Speaker 1: Some Spencer Anderson talk, some Kendrick Green and fullback. You

777
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Speaker 1: talked about how that fires up the offense.

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Speaker 2: I liked how he said too, though we're very happy

779
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Speaker 2: with what he's doing as an offensive lineman as a center.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that's why he's here still, you know,

781
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: correct Core. And meanwhile, I'm sitting here. You know you'd

782
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Speaker 2: ask him about, well, your guys do more work than

783
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Speaker 2: anybody else. Well, there's two offensive linemen on the field

784
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Speaker 2: and that's about it right now. And I'm watching Solamaluh

785
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Speaker 2: come out of his stance. He looked super quick and

786
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: agile just doing pass sets, you know, against air, you know,

787
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: so that stuff goes a long way, but I mean

788
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Speaker 2: they do work hard and it's a good group right now.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so a lot of good stuff there from Pat Meyer.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get the break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lawley. You're listening to the Drive here

792
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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine to seventy are

793
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Speaker 1: live ongoing coverage from Steelers training camp here at Saint

794
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Speaker 1: Fncent College. We're here every day the Steelers practice.

795
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Speaker 2: We're here back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back again tomorrow. We just this is what

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Speaker 1: we do. Of course, I'll be down in Tampa later

798
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Speaker 1: this week and we can hear all the coverage on

799
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Speaker 1: these very airwaves of that of course on DVE as well.

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Speaker 1: But Matt and are going to take a break. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with more right after this. Matt Williamson, this

802
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Speaker 1: is the Drive on the Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN

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Speaker 1: nine to seventy are live ongoing coverage from Saint Vincent

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Speaker 1: College here where the Steelers just wrapped up practice session

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Speaker 1: number eleven. And Matt, good practice today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the field finally cleared. I mentioned Solomlo,

807
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: he's still doing autographs over here to our right. But

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Speaker 2: other than that, it's finally cleared out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But really good practice. I'm with you. You beat me

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Speaker 2: to it. But I thought, as well as practice was

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Speaker 2: going on, like this was probably the best practice we've

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Speaker 2: seen yet, the most certainly the most football game.

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Speaker 1: Like most game like, I thought it was crisp on

814
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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. Yeah, I thought that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the live tackling, Yes, yes, there was a lot of it,

816
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Speaker 1: a lot, and it was you know, fierce, and the

817
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Speaker 1: competition was there. I thought the offense held more than

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Speaker 1: held its own in this one, which.

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Speaker 2: Was seven shots in particular.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you like to you like to see that the

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Speaker 1: short yard and stuff. You know, they controlled the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage there. I guess a good defensive front too.

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Speaker 1: I know the Steelers defense is going to be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very to potentially very good,

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00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,959
Speaker 1: especially the front.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the front's really strong.

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Speaker 1: But the biggest question that people have about this team

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Speaker 1: as well, can the offense, you know, turn things around.

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Speaker 1: Can the offense hold up its end of the bargain?

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Speaker 1: And so that to me, seeing the offense go out

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Speaker 1: there and win seven shots decisively, to win the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage in those third and shorts, to win the

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Speaker 1: goal line drills, to me is a big, big.

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Speaker 2: Step, no question. And give a you know, coach Meyers

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Speaker 2: group a lot of credit to they had a lot

836
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Speaker 2: of reason behind that is just winning at the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage. You know, he had mentioned in that interview

838
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Speaker 2: that good teams invest in o' lineman and in depth,

839
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Speaker 2: and I expect, you know, them to trot out two

840
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: high quality lines, depending who plays and all that all

841
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: through the preseason. So you should get a really good

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00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: look at the quarterbacks. Well we know who they are,

843
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: but all the other skill guys, I mean, I would

844
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Speaker 2: expect the offense to do real well in the preseason

845
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: all three of these contests, and certainly did today. And

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Speaker 2: to take a step further, like we mentioned the skill guys,

847
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: they put out all the beef, I mean they put

848
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Speaker 2: on and they've got a lot of it, and they

849
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Speaker 2: got a lot of it and that's not by accident.

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00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: And including Kendrick Green and two huge tight ends or

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Speaker 2: Hayward in motion and all the stuff they do with him,

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Speaker 2: and so it's intriguing. Yeah, I mean this is not

853
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Speaker 2: going to be a finesse offense.

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00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: No, no, nothing a finesse about. I mean they can

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Speaker 1: be if they wanted.

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00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: They can be. I mean they can throw to Deontay

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Speaker 2: and Pickens and those guys.

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Speaker 1: Sure, But I just look at it, and it's one

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Speaker 1: of the things that you know that I asked Pat about.

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Speaker 1: Can that mentality that they found last year, can that

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Speaker 1: carry over to this year?

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Speaker 2: He's like, absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: You know, we just we decided that we challenged the

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Speaker 1: offensive line at mid season last year, at the when

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Speaker 1: they went into the buy like, Hey, if we're gonna

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00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna turn this thing around, it's gonna because of

867
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: you guys. And that's exactly what they did, and I

868
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: think the offensive line as a whole gained a lot

869
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: of just confidence from that. Yeah, so that when you

870
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: get out there in a third and one situation at

871
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: midfield like that, Okay, we can block this up. I

872
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: don't care if that's Cam Heyward and Larry Oguijobi opposite me.

873
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you're not gonna say a lot.

874
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're not gonna face too many teams that are

875
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: going to bring a more difficult defensive front, you know,

876
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: against you and you go out.

877
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: There and say, Okay, we're gonna get this, yeah and

878
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: again even the twos. And I mean that from a

879
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: defensive standpoint. I mean, I think the defensive front is

880
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: very deep, and you're not pushing around future accountants out

881
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: there to get yardage. I forgot I was gonna say

882
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: on that. Oh and interesting that he did mention how

883
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: he challenged them at the midway point of the season,

884
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: and obviously that worked and speaks to his coaching as well.

885
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 2: I mean, he could get a spark out of these

886
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: guys even when times were pretty bleak. I mean, the

887
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: season looked pretty lost at that point.

888
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: People we're talking about this is is this one of

889
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: the worst offensive lines in the league. I know, nause

890
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: Harris was frustrated. Uh there, you know, I can't remember

891
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: what game it was, but after the game he said, look,

892
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: I can't I can't block for myself. I can't make

893
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: these holes myself. He can't do it himself. Uh and

894
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: you know the lines, you know, went out there and

895
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: turned this thing around with a rookie quarterback.

896
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: For the rookie quarterback. Yeah, and converted a lot of

897
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: third downs last year, long short whatever, but a lot

898
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: of the trench stuff. I forget what football siders calls it,

899
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: their their with their O line metric for you know,

900
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: the real close, tough stuff, you know, And they were

901
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: dominant in that regard. I ran extremely successfully against eight

902
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: man boxes and loaded fronts and things of that nature.

903
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: That's going to open things up for the quarterback. I mean,

904
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: the big plays and things like that probably aren't going

905
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 2: to be their specialty, but I think that they're coming

906
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: in much more regularity than we saw last year.

907
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the ball like they did last year, right,

908
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: the big plays on for the passing game are going

909
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: to come. Yeah, I mean because teams are going to

910
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: start playing the run more against you. And when they

911
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: do that and you show that heavy package out there,

912
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: but you still have a Deontay Johnson on the field,

913
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: you store themself at George Pickens on the field, They're

914
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: gonna beat their guy down the field. You're gonna get

915
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty five thirty yard game.

916
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. I do think those are coming.

917
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: I think the offense is in a really good place.

918
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: I like the things that they've addressed. I mean, again,

919
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: even that that interview we just listened to, he said, hey,

920
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: we built I mean a paraphrasing and kind of add

921
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: my own to it, but we build a lot of

922
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: great continuity with our starting five. But we're smart enough

923
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: to realize we're not gonna get the same starting five

924
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: over and over, you know. I mean, that's just not

925
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 2: how the league works. We were fortunate and they benefited

926
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: from it, but let's not assume that that's the norm. No,

927
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get that kind of stuff going forward. Yeah.

928
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I like what this team has done.

929
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: I like what the direction that it's headed. I liked

930
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: see the building blocks on offense as well, right, Like

931
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: we've seen something different I think every day.

932
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, and boy that looked a lot like

933
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: yesterday with the little something to it. Yeah, a little

934
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: extra to it.

935
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: And that's one thing Matt Canada told me early in camp, like,

936
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, now the things because everybody was at a

937
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: they had a better understanding of the basics of the offense.

938
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: You're not starting from scratch here, so now you can

939
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: run the plays off of the place.

940
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right right. There's a reason you do pre

941
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: algebra before algebra, before calculus, YadA, YadA, YadA, because there's

942
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: the foundations in place, and you would hope that now

943
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: you're more of an advanced level scheme, you know, but

944
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: at an advanced level classes you're taken now because these

945
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: guys have all done the you know, intro to psych

946
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: you know.

947
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean you still don't have that foundation

948
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: that you can fall back on, you know, right, you're

949
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: gonna have that. But I honestly, I have high expectations

950
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: for this offense this year. What that means is it,

951
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five points a game? Is it? You know,

952
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: thirty points. It's not gonna be thirty points a game.

953
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: We probably not.

954
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure nobody in the league averaged thirty right last year.

955
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: But you know, if they can average a touchdown more

956
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: per game than what they had last year, something in.

957
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: That range, oh, that would be tremendous.

958
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: Now you're the tenth highest scoring team in the league.

959
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: Last year, I believe it was a Jaguars if memory

960
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: serves right, theyver was twenty five points a game. Oh,

961
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: you'd love to get to that in today's NFL. That's

962
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: a lot of points.

963
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And so you know it doesn't have to

964
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: be well, you're gonna have to be able to go

965
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: up and down the field with the Chiefs. You don't

966
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: want to do that. You don't want to get into

967
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: a shootout with the Chiefs. It's like, you know, it

968
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: was the getting into a land battle. That was the

969
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: quote from The Princess Bride. You know, it's one of

970
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: the great things. The first is never get into a

971
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: land battle in Asia. The second is this, well the first,

972
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, don't get it, don't do what the Chiefs

973
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: want you to do. Don't do it. You know when

974
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: you play the Bengals. The Steelers scored thirty points in

975
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: a game last year. Yeah, it was against the Cincinnati

976
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: Bengals and they lost thirty seven to thirty. That's not

977
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: what you want to do.

978
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: Now.

979
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: The AFC Championship last year was a twenty three to

980
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: twenty game, right right right, and make them do what

981
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: they don't want to do.

982
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: And a huge help too, is that it's time and possession.

983
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: I mean the way that they transformed their time and

984
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: possession as the season went on is rare. I mean,

985
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: just they were on the field all the time.

986
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: It went for being thirty first in time of possession

987
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: to finish in the season fifth.

988
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Which is really hard to do. Not like just the

989
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: last We're not just isolating the last second half of

990
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: the year. They're probably first if you do that the

991
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: second half of the year to get the dig out

992
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: of that hole at thirty one, because they were thirty

993
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: one or in the thirties for a while, you know,

994
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: deep into the season.

995
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so it was, it was bad, and

996
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: it was as bad as it could be. And again,

997
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, Matt Canada and Mike Tomlin in that group

998
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: challenged the offense. Hey, we got to be better than this.

999
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: God have to be.

1000
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: Better than this. Yeah, and I expect them to be

1001
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: this year.

1002
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: And if we're not better than this, you guys aren't

1003
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: going to be here. So that's I think that's what

1004
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: that becomes part of it. And a lot of those

1005
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: guys are back. A lot of them were able to

1006
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: do what they you know, what what was asked to them.

1007
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: Now you get better in a zone, you get better,

1008
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, do those things better, build on what you did.

1009
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: Get more explosive plays. The offense should.

1010
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: Be better, more of the middle field stuff, you know,

1011
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: a wider variety of play calls in general, route concepts,

1012
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: the different runs we've seen here, the pre snap motion

1013
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: that they're using a ton of second yar quarterback that

1014
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: understands what's like to play in NFL stadiums. As Couch says,

1015
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: you know that stuff goes a lot too big for him. No, no,

1016
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: And I really like his mental makeup as well.

1017
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he seems to handle things pretty much in stride

1018
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: and well that says something as well. We're gonna get

1019
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: to another break here as our number two reps up

1020
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: here of our live training camp coverage from Saint Vincent College.

1021
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: The Steelers just put practice number eleven of training camp

1022
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three in the books. He is Matt Williamson.

1023
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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lalla. You're listening to the Drive on

1024
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine to seventy. We'll be

1025
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