1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of I Heart Radio. Hey 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: brain Stuff, Lauren bogel Bomb. Here in Hawaii they call 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: it chicken skin, the prickly, hair raising sensation that we 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: humans experience when we feel creeped out. And no matter 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: how courageous you might think yourself, you can bet the 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: in the presence of Hawaii's ephemeral night marchers or Kaipo, 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: your own personal chicken skin would be on full display. 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Long before you see the night marchers, you'll hear them. 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: First comes the ominous, deep thudding of war drums. Then 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: you hear the guttural chanting and spine tangling blares from 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: a conk shell. A stench of death might as salt 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: your nose. Finally, you may see a succession of torches 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: winding their way towards you in the darkness. Flee now, 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: or risk the wrath of the supernatural night marchers, which 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: have for generations earned the respect of those who follow 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Hawaiian folklore. We spoke via email with Lopaka Kapanui, Hawaiian 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: kuna or priest and cultural practitioner who is well acquainted 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: with the island spooky folklore. He said the night marchers 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: are known throughout the Hawaiian archipelago. It's ingrained in our culture. 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: In most stories, they're ghostly warriors who stride through jungles 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: and towns alike, adorned in brilliant costumes of ages past. 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: In their former lives, they protected high ranking chiefs. Kind 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Of Polly said that particular leader in life was someone 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: that was so sacred that, according to their status, no 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: one could look at them and no one could be 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: clothed in their presence. Innocent bystanders who stumble upon the 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: procession and don't know the kupu or rules are under 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: dire threat of death. In life, kindly chiefs supposedly took 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: to traveling at night in order to avoid being spotted 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: by commoners and leaving a subsequent blood bath everywhere they went. 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: That tradition, according to legend, is carried out into afterlife 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: as night marchers continue their eternal protective escort, continuing to 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: beat their drums out of an extreme sense of duty. 34 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Kind Of Polly said, so as it was in life, 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: so too is it in death. Sort Of like working 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: for the state all your life, even after you're dead, 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: you don't get an afterlife. You just go right back 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: to work. If you understand the lunar cycles and history 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: of the night Marchers, he says, you might be able 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: to anticipate their arrival in certain areas. They tend to 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: appear mostly during the last four Hawaiian moon phases as 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: the moon wanes to blackness, and they seem to prefer 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: sacred sites and notable cultural spots. But it's dangerous to 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: seek out the marchers. Locals mostly no better, Kanapui said. 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: Families who claim ancestral ties to these particular processions take 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: the marchers very seriously. Others know well enough to at 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: least respect it, and whatever you do, don't whistle in 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: the dark. Some say you might inadvertently summon the night Marchers, 49 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: and if they arrive, no walls can stop them. The 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: only thing that's been said to cause them to veer 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: from a path is presence of tea plants around a home. 52 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: That's t I, not t e a. It's a colorful 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: evergreen plant with cultural significance in Hawaii as a food stuff, medicine, 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: and more. In some instances, you might not notice the 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: marchers approaching. Perhaps a gael force wind drowns out the drums, 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: or you're simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: No matter the scenario, you must hope that the ghost 58 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: warriors will take mercy on you. If not, you'll hear 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: a shriek and that will be the end of you. 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: But the night Marchers respect bloodlines. If you're extremely fortunate, 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: one of the long dead men will be your distant 62 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: ancestor they'll shout out that you're one of theirs, indicating 63 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: that the warrior has recognized you as a descendant. The 64 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: procession will pass you by without causing you harm. If 65 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: you don't share blood with any of the warriors, you'll 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: be left with only a few resources. As the legend goes, 67 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: you must strip off all your clothing, lay face down 68 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: on the ground, close your eyes, and play dead. Also, 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: for good measure, urinate uncontrollably. We did not make that 70 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: part up. The idea is to convince the night Marchers 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: that you have nothing but fearful respect in their presence. 72 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Kind of pool. He says that he once personally encountered 73 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: the night Marchers. He said, I was in a Chinese 74 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: cemetery one evening leading a ghost tour. The entire cemeteries 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: built over a night Marchers trail unbeknownst to him, he 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: just happened to be standing in the middle of their path. 77 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: Their effect on him was immediate and overwhelming. He said, 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: it was like being encapsulated. The sound was gone. I 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: could see the wind moving the trees and the tall 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: grass around me, but couldn't hear it or feel it. 81 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: It became unbearably hot. Later he would learn from a 82 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: cousin that ancestors and the other worldly procession must have 83 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: recognized him and surrounded him to provide protection from the marchers. 84 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: His professional advice if you happen to encounter the spirits 85 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: quote the best thing for anyone to do if they 86 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: hear the night marcher procession approach is to run. Get 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: out of there. Make yourself very scarce. Don't, he says, 88 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: stop to try to take selfies like some foolish people 89 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: have done in the past. He said, just run. Don't 90 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: be that person. In other words, if you're in Hawaii 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: and your chicken skin warns you of an impending night 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: marcher experience, make like a chicken and flee for your life, 93 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: because that might be exactly what's at stake. Lapaca Cup 94 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: of Newi diligently chronicles the many ghost stories of Hawaii. 95 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: He's collected hundreds of stories on his blog Ghosts Next 96 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: Store and adds more regularly. 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