WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 5/18: Breaking Down the 2023 Schedule, Better, Worse or Same for Defensive Roster

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazar and Alex bar Bazar Blazar from Blazarre. Hello, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>nailed it, joined us.

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<v Speaker 2>Always buy our bark.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is Evan Lazar and Alex bars Thanksgiving and be

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<v Speaker 1>nice to Thanksgiving off also selfish? Well yeah, no, it

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<v Speaker 1>is totally selfish. It is on my bucket list to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Iron Bowl Alabama auverge. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>is like the only way I'll ever be able.

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<v Speaker 2>To do it for the Patriots in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>competitive Look asked, what I when you're just talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how you want to go to the Iron Ball, So

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<v Speaker 2>you hope that the bye week is the week of

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<v Speaker 2>the Iron Bolt. Well, we're gonna do some schedule today

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<v Speaker 2>and we have the actual schedule. Now we're not just

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<v Speaker 2>going off of rumors like we were last week. And Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>do you get to go to the Iron Bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta go to the Iron Bowl? You don't? No,

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<v Speaker 1>look at his face, you get to go? You get

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<v Speaker 1>do you get to go to I won't say yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We had the discussion off the so we I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule's out like we Patriots tweeted out the preseason schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have tickets just and I have tickets to

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Brown Band on August nineteenth, which we just found out.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be in Green Bay for Patriots Packers preseason

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<v Speaker 2>week number two. So guess who is not going to

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I bought tickets for Bruce Springsteen here at Chillette that

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday because I said, oh, they always played preseason on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get the Saturday tickets. You looked out games on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to do both. You looked out man, So

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<v Speaker 1>Iron Bowl have to wait, but I get to see Bruce.

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<v Speaker 2>God, I'm in trouble. Anyways, We're gonna be with you

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<v Speaker 2>for the next hour, so you know, we sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and a half, sometimes it's hour ten. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't really have a set time here, so I

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of say hour or so that's the best

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<v Speaker 2>I can do. But we're gonna do some schedule because

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<v Speaker 2>we were on the show last Thursday while the rumors

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<v Speaker 2>were trickling out about the Patriots schedule, but we weren't

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<v Speaker 2>on the show and we had the actual schedule in hand.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have some thoughts, Alex, I'm sure you have

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<v Speaker 2>some thoughts. On the Patriots schedule and then we'll do

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<v Speaker 2>better worse, same the defense we did offense last week.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we can take your calls made five to

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<v Speaker 2>five Pats five hundred, or your emails at web radio

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<v Speaker 2>at Patriots dot com for any and all other Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>inquiries or if you have a take on what we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. It's all on the table for you. So

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<v Speaker 2>just give us a call and we'll discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>We're taking Taylor Swift calls.

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<v Speaker 2>We are taking Taylor Swift calls, and we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do it Taylor Swift. Maybe a Celtics minute too,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can sneak it in. But because I have

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<v Speaker 2>takes about my Celtics and I have, Yeah, I'll wear

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<v Speaker 2>this one. It's my Celtics, and I'll uh, we have

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<v Speaker 2>some Taylor thoughts. You know, I like Taylor. You know

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy her music, not enough to buy a ticket

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<v Speaker 2>to the Concert of the Millennium. I'm not gonna lie,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've been known to turn on some Swift every

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<v Speaker 2>once in a while, especially like it's really good music.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, I think I said this the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if were air, but when we're coming

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<v Speaker 2>back from road games and uh, and my writing's done everything.

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<v Speaker 2>The behay is in the barn, as they say. And

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<v Speaker 2>we have a little bit of a plane ride and

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<v Speaker 2>I just need something to just tune out windows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just stare out the playoff across the country. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching myself fly above the clouds while listening to some

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<v Speaker 2>some Taylor Swift is not a.

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<v Speaker 1>Horrible It's called main character syndrome. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. It's people will get that joke. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>alone in that, You're not alone.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's just it's like it's like good soothing background music.

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<v Speaker 2>It's poppy, it's light, it's not anything serious. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a rap fan, as you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you turn on some rap at that point in

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<v Speaker 2>your time and you're like, I'm not looking to get

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<v Speaker 2>pumped up right now. I'm looking to wind down. So

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<v Speaker 2>I like some Taylor Swift. We'll give some thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe here in a little bit, but let's start

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<v Speaker 2>with the schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think my two biggest takeaways from the schedule. One,

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<v Speaker 2>this team is going to sink or swim with the

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<v Speaker 2>first month of the season, either this team is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be take us all by surprise coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>the gate in those first four weeks with it's Philly,

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Jets Cowboys, and that's either that's gonna be make

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<v Speaker 2>or break the season in September, which I don't love,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, because as as people that

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<v Speaker 2>cover the team and try to drum up at least

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of interest and excitement in the team,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're own four out of the gate, and there

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<v Speaker 2>goes your football season, right. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to learn a lot about this team,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think in general the two things that are

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<v Speaker 2>good about it are one what I'm maybe more looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to is learning about the defense, Like can this

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<v Speaker 2>defense take that next step? With Christian Gonzales now in

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<v Speaker 2>the cornerback room with I'll even give Kean White and

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<v Speaker 2>Marty Mapu to them, right, Like, with some of these

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<v Speaker 2>pieces that they've added to an already pretty good defense,

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<v Speaker 2>can this defense take that next step from being elite

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<v Speaker 2>against bad competition, okay against good competition.

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<v Speaker 1>To elade against everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's really what I'm hoping to

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<v Speaker 2>see out of that defense, especially that week one matchup

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<v Speaker 2>against Philadelphia, because on paper, that's the type of team

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<v Speaker 2>that roasts Bill Belichick's defense, right, a mobile quarterback option

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<v Speaker 2>style offense, had those college gimmicky type things with RPOs

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<v Speaker 2>in motion and things like that, couple good receivers to

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<v Speaker 2>throw the football to, great offensive line. On paper, the

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles hang forty on the Patriots on Opening Night. Can

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots stem that tide? Can they come out and

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<v Speaker 2>stop and shut down an elite offense and a good

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback who's a dual threat, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Those types of things.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I think out of that is Mac Jones, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>can Mac Jones win a couple of games that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he should win or we don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>should win. And the way that you do that is

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<v Speaker 2>by winning a game against Jalen Hurts thirty eight thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five in Week one, or winning a game against Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Rodgers right in the Jets and going toe to toe

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<v Speaker 2>with Rogers and that offense and putting up more points

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<v Speaker 2>than the opponent. I'm not talking about winning seventeen fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>actually outscoring an opponent to a W. That's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>something that we have seen in the Mac Jones Zra.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna learn a lot about them, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>also in jeopardy of falling too far underwater, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we're thinking too much in the first month of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>They to me, to have a real chance at a

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<v Speaker 2>postseason birth need to go two and two in the

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<v Speaker 2>first month of the season, and that's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>tall task.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it absolutely is. My you know, general takeaway, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of them, the big picture one. In

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways, this is structured similarly to their

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<v Speaker 1>schedule the last few years. Starts tough, you've got kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a softer landing spot in the middle, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you close with a gauntlet once again. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it was in twenty twenty one. That's what it was

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two. The difference being, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>off spot in the middle. The last two years was

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<v Speaker 1>about a month and a half, right, was like six

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<v Speaker 1>seven games. This year it's what three four games, and

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<v Speaker 1>that includes a game in Germany, which I think by

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<v Speaker 1>default isn't easy, even if maybe the Colts aren't the

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<v Speaker 1>best team. So the soft stretch of this schedule is

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<v Speaker 1>not it's you blink and you'll miss it. The other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, this is kind of a glass half full,

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<v Speaker 1>glass half efty thing. I've heard people put it both ways.

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<v Speaker 1>They did, Kansas City is gonna be their toughest game

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what they do get outside of having a

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<v Speaker 1>bye week before, which we've seen with this team's been

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<v Speaker 1>after the bye the last couple years. So maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>good they don't have an immediate bye week before it

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<v Speaker 1>as much time as they could possibly have to prepare

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<v Speaker 1>for that game because they play Kansas City on Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night or sorry, they played Pittsburgh on Thursday night on

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<v Speaker 1>the road, but then it's Kansas City Monday night at home,

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<v Speaker 1>so no travel day. There's essentially four extra days baked

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<v Speaker 1>into that preparation. How much of a difference will that make.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Will it be enough? Probably not, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's something you have. But then I've had people come

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<v Speaker 1>back and say, well, then you have a short week

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<v Speaker 1>going to Denver on Christmas, even a spot where they've struggled,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take the extra time to prepare for Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>because that if they can steal that game, they're in

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<v Speaker 1>great shape. But you know, to start with Philly, to

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<v Speaker 1>have Kansas City in the spot where they are based

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<v Speaker 1>on some of the rumors we were hearing leading up

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<v Speaker 1>that end up being false leading up to the schedule release. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I almost feel like I feel good about the schedule

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<v Speaker 1>because some of the stuff we heard was so much

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<v Speaker 1>significantly worse than what it ended up being. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is as tough as schedule, not just the opponents, but

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<v Speaker 1>the way it's structured as they've had in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I did this. I did a little exercise

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<v Speaker 2>thought exercise. I shared this on PU already, but we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it here too quickly. I broke it up into

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<v Speaker 2>it projected wins, projected losses, and then what I call

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<v Speaker 2>coin flip games toss could go either way right, projected wins.

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<v Speaker 2>And this year it feels to me, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>say this probably every year, but it really feels to

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<v Speaker 2>me this year that when I say projected, these have

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<v Speaker 2>to be w's. Like, if you don't come out with

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<v Speaker 2>wins from these games, you can get then getting to

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<v Speaker 2>ten wins to get into the playoffs, it's almost impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>Saints Commander's Colts, Saints Commanders Colts. We'll see about the Saints.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do have Derek Carr now, so they have

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<v Speaker 2>an okay quarterback situation and say they have a great

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback situation, but they're okay at quarterback. Now, we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>about their team as the season progresses. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>can't beat Sam Howell and rookie Anthony Richardson, then you're

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<v Speaker 2>not playoff team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean those are two teams that could be

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about the Saints. Saints should be in

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<v Speaker 1>position for a top five pick. The Commanders could have

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<v Speaker 1>shot at the number one p yeah. Yeah. Losses ye, Philly, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas yeah, Buffalo, Buffalo, Kansas City. Yes, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>so right now? What three and five, three and six?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is what I'm getting at, right is we're

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<v Speaker 2>even just if we give them wins where we think

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<v Speaker 2>there should be wins, and even if we split the

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<v Speaker 2>coin flips, which I'll get to in a second, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not looking so hot. The last thing I'll say about

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<v Speaker 2>the losses Buffalo, I'm gonna make a college football reference

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Oh okay, you know how sometimes they say that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for Auburn, like beating Alabama is like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the super Bowl, right, like the.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're having a bad season but you beat your rival.

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<v Speaker 1>It gives you something. There are coaches who there have

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<v Speaker 1>been coaches who maybe not as much the Alabama Auburn series,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's other rivalry series where I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>of an example off the top of my head. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I State, Michigan. No, because neither of those schools ever

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<v Speaker 1>fire coaches. The South Carolina Clemson rivalry, Yeah, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago, South Carolina is I can't remember the

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<v Speaker 1>year of the coach, but a couple years ago South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina's coach was like done, had a really bad year.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's like he's gonna lose his job, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>beat Clemson and he got another year, right, So like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. So not to say that Bill's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep his job just if they beat Buffalo, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying no, that one win can change the way

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<v Speaker 1>you look at a season.

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<v Speaker 2>If they beat Buffalo straight up, like no wind, no

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<v Speaker 2>injury to Josh Allen, like just straight up beat Buffalo

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<v Speaker 2>and they finished with the record that I'm about to

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<v Speaker 2>project that they finish with, then I do think you

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<v Speaker 2>feel a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Better, right you do?

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<v Speaker 2>It changes the way you look at because you look

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<v Speaker 2>at next year twenty twenty four now being a year

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<v Speaker 2>where you really take that step forward, like you're competing

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<v Speaker 2>now and you might not have the wins to show

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<v Speaker 2>for it, but then in twenty twenty four, that's when

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<v Speaker 2>it really starts to take off.

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<v Speaker 1>Although so a couple things to that.

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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you're supposed to be like year two with

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie quarterback, and we're kind of ready.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're kind of in here too with a rookie,

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<v Speaker 2>we're kind of going backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I mean. Yeah, the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say about that is what we're getting waiting in semantics,

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<v Speaker 1>what if Buffalo just isn't good this year?

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<v Speaker 2>What if you beat Buffalo but then they go like

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<v Speaker 2>you've been waiting for Buffalo to not be good for

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<v Speaker 2>three years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying they're gonna regress for the last two years,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've regressed the last two years.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a chance there's I'm not saying that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>They're a playoff team, hyeah, no matter what. But is

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<v Speaker 2>there a chance that they're not as good as they've been.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly they've started to lose some pieces as they've.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotten get ready for them to go seven, eleven, and six,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody be like, oh, Buffalo win, doesn't matter, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same Bills. Get ready for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, coin flips Dolphins and Jets times to right, you

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<v Speaker 2>know those four games, Yeah, I think are coin flips. Raiders, Giants, Chargers, Broncos, Steelers.

0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Now the Giants, I think that they should win that game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in New.

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<v Speaker 2>York, but it's not a travel you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty minute flight. But I disrespectable a lot, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's a tough game to win.

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<v Speaker 1>I do too. I think there's two kinds of coin

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<v Speaker 1>flip games, right, the Jets games, the Miami games. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>even say a game against a team like Vegas against

0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a team like Pittsburgh. Those are legitimately, like, these are

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<v Speaker 1>two very even teams, right, They're gonna get on the

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<v Speaker 1>field and we'll see what happens. The other kind of

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<v Speaker 1>coin flip game, and this would be a team like

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<v Speaker 1>Denver or a team like New York. It's a coin

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<v Speaker 1>flip because we have no idea what this team is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right by the time we get to that Denver game,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna be a coin flip. Yeah, because either

0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.080
<v Speaker 1>they're terrible or they're good again. Right, Either the whole

0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:39.360
<v Speaker 1>problem last year was Nathaniel Hackett and Sean Payton's fixed

0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it and now they're the wagon everybody expected them to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Or and by the way, I subscribe to this school theory,

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson might be Washington, and I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily gonna be as ugly as it was last year

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<v Speaker 1>because Hackett did play a big role in that thing

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<v Speaker 1>falling apart, and Peyton's a better coach. But yeah, I

0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think Sean Payton can fix everything, every single thing.

0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson just physically can't play at the level that

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<v Speaker 1>he used to that he can't fix that. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, that's a coin flip right now, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>a chance that that's a very winnable game. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say saying about the Giants, was Daniel Jones

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<v Speaker 1>a flash in the pan? And I respect the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of day Ball, do I really do? But was

0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones a flash in the pan? Or is this

0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Brian day Ball doing for him what he did for

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the other game that I put on the coin

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<v Speaker 2>flip category and I'm gonna get to my Denver taking

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<v Speaker 2>a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I have a bone to pick. Pittsburgh. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to see Mac Jones be Kenny Pickett. There's similar teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to see Mac Jones b Kenny Pickett. Yah,

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<v Speaker 1>if he can't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Thursday night game, it's primetime Island game all on

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<v Speaker 2>its own, and the discourse around the Patriots, who would

0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.800
<v Speaker 2>probably be hovering around five hundred at that point of

0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.680
<v Speaker 2>the season, right, you know, a team looking at eight

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<v Speaker 2>and nine. Again, the discourse around this team. If Mac

0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Jones gets outduoled by Kenny Pickett in a primetime game,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. But whichever quarterback loses that game is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be viewed as on the hot seat for the offseason. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is I think it's nine coin flip games

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<v Speaker 2>the Dolphins and Jets. You know those four games, Raiders, Giants, Chargers, Broncos, Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this about the Chargers to the Chargers game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>One is it's a it is a home game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a one game.

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<v Speaker 2>Like so that's a that's a ten am body clock

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<v Speaker 2>game for the Chargers, which is something I do subscribe to.

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<v Speaker 1>And even in the two games there, Belichick has owned

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<v Speaker 1>Justin HRB. Yeah, I mean like it's not even like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of close. I agree that it's coin

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<v Speaker 1>flip game. They have a better quarterback, so you can't

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<v Speaker 1>just chalk it up to a win. Yes, but Herbert

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<v Speaker 1>has not been who he like he is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I hope this doesn't happen. But eventually Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 2>solved Bill too. Sure, right, and when you're that physically talented,

0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.080
<v Speaker 2>there's always that chance that this is the game that

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Herbert.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, the difference is Josh Allen had Brian Daball, who

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<v Speaker 1>we know is a great coach. Justin Herbert has probably

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<v Speaker 1>the worst coach in the league. You just don't and

0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a bad coach. He's a numbers guy. He willingly

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<v Speaker 1>took his team out of a playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're not gonna do a bad coach. He can

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<v Speaker 2>do this when they play the Chargers can if he's so.

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<v Speaker 2>I have three penciledon wins and I have nine coin

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<v Speaker 2>flip games. So if we split the coin flip games

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<v Speaker 2>in half because they are a coin flip game, it's

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<v Speaker 2>four and a half wins plus three.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at it if you give them the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of them looking at it nine, I think even if

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<v Speaker 1>you give them the the benefit of the coin flip games

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<v Speaker 1>at five and four, they're eight nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So let's let's call him nine for a second

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<v Speaker 2>out of Philly Dallas Buffalo times two in Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 2>they gotta they gotta figure out a way to pull

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<v Speaker 2>out one of the or two of those games to

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<v Speaker 2>stem the tip. Which ones do you give them the

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<v Speaker 2>best chance to do?

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna say that I'm saying this because they

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<v Speaker 1>hate Buffalo. Divisional football is always weird. You know him well.

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<v Speaker 2>But they just smoked it, I know. But in fair

0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, no win tunnel game.

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<v Speaker 1>To slip back on what you just said, eventually, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Allen figured out Bill Belichick.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So you think that Bill Belichick's eventually going to

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<v Speaker 2>refigure out Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And they've gotten I think closer than it looks

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<v Speaker 1>they've the last two years they've dropped. They've just had

0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.679
<v Speaker 1>a key interception would have flipped the game dropped. It

0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.399
<v Speaker 1>was in the exact same spot on the field.

0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.080
<v Speaker 2>The second game in twenty one was closer than it looked. Offensively,

0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.520
<v Speaker 2>they were bad in that game as well, but the game,

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.800
<v Speaker 2>the score was closer than and the two games last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how play the game here last year

0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 1>was as close as that game of twenty. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing they had. I don't remember who it

0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.640
<v Speaker 1>was who dropped it. The offense was just so so terrible.

0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.879
<v Speaker 1>And that's that game here. So here comes phil Obrian. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one is Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I just remember Max Rock a year again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they couldn't stop. They had I think Dallas had

0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.960
<v Speaker 1>six hundred yards in that game. They did, but Dallas

0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.160
<v Speaker 1>is super hot and cold. Yeah, Like, you're not gonna

0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:02.800
<v Speaker 1>catch the Chiefs on it off week. You're just it's

0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.159
<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. Their off weeks are like what the

0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Brady or a Patriots are, right exactly. The off week is,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh maybe you end up getting within two touchdowns. Right,

0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you catch Dallas on and off week, Yeah, you can

0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.080
<v Speaker 1>very much beat him because they'll get sloppy with the

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<v Speaker 1>football and Trayvon dig starts getting too aggressive. Right, it

0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.879
<v Speaker 1>can happen. So at like of your like lock I

0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.560
<v Speaker 1>lost games. Yeah, I would say Dallas is the easiest

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.400
<v Speaker 1>game on that because me too. It's just a very inconsistent.

0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say Dallas is as well. And they're

0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.920
<v Speaker 2>changing offensive coordinators. It sounds like Mike McCarthy my call plays.

0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cars gonna call plays. It's early in the year.

0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.400
<v Speaker 2>It's slammed flat one hundred and fifty times because that's

0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.080
<v Speaker 2>what he does. I think that there's a possibility that

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<v Speaker 2>you could steal Dallas.

0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I'll give them that. It's tough though, it's

0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.359
<v Speaker 2>a tough schedule, and I think we knew that, Mike Gripe. Yeah,

0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.399
<v Speaker 2>and this is personal, This is totally selfish, Okay, But

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<v Speaker 2>I got yelled at for doing this last week.

0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.919
<v Speaker 1>You did, and I'm gonna do it this week. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>The Patriots on Christmas Eve at primetime on the road

0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:11.119
<v Speaker 2>a year after putting the Patriots on Thanksgiving at primetime

0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:16.520
<v Speaker 2>on the road is malpractice. This is outrageous. And this

0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.159
<v Speaker 2>is coming from a Jew that I'm this outraged by it,

0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:20.040
<v Speaker 2>but I still am.

0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.000
<v Speaker 1>There were it, by the ways, gonna be New Year's

0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:22.400
<v Speaker 1>next year.

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<v Speaker 2>This is outrageous. Not only not only are they on

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Eve, it's primetime in Denver, which is a four

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.320
<v Speaker 2>and a half hour flight. I will quite quite literally

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.840
<v Speaker 2>be flying across the country back for Christmas Day with

0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Santa to make it in this listening to Taylor Swift,

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<v Speaker 2>and I am displeased they took away my Thanksgiving last year.

0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I was really I was really upset by that. I'm

0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.639
<v Speaker 2>not as upset about Christmas Eve because, as I just mentioned,

0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I am Jewish, so it's not as big of a

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 2>deal to me as obviously a big deal to my

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.320
<v Speaker 2>other half. But it's not as big a deal to me.

0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:07.200
<v Speaker 2>But you know, last year Thanksgiving, I was bumped. Yeah,

0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I was bumped. Like that's that's such a perfect day

0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.439
<v Speaker 2>for you to just you don't have to work, you

0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:15.760
<v Speaker 2>don't have to watch the Patriots. You just sit back,

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you eat a bunch of food, you watch football all day.

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 2>It's a great day to have. And now Christmas Eve

0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.320
<v Speaker 2>this year and then they play on New Year's the

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<v Speaker 2>following week.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about it.

0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about New Year's that much time. I

0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 2>just the Christmas and Thanksgiving back to back primetime year

0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Like that's horrible.

0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:35.639
<v Speaker 1>That's terrible.

0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.440
<v Speaker 2>To come on, do you not care about our families?

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.159
<v Speaker 2>And I'm talking on behalf of the players and coaches

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:42.800
<v Speaker 2>right now too. I do not care about any of

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.320
<v Speaker 2>our families. That is that what this is.

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with you. Somebody's got to do it.

0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.160
<v Speaker 1>They went like twelve years without a game on a holiday,

0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 1>so we are kind of down here. They don't care

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.920
<v Speaker 1>about our families, Alex I, I, it's annoying. It's absolutely

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 1>not well. I mean, we had heard whispers, and can

0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I talk about the thing we'd heard? I don't know,

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which one it is. Oh you know what.

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:08.159
<v Speaker 1>It had been discussed openly on other stations, So it

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.119
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be Thanksgiving? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we had

0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.919
<v Speaker 1>heard like that would have been I would have lost it.

0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, not Thanksgiving again. They obviously played Dallas in Dallas,

0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 2>so that right when.

0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.480
<v Speaker 1>You looked at it was like looking at who Dallas

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.200
<v Speaker 1>was playing. As the schedule started to leak, it came

0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 1>down to a point where there was like only three

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:27.919
<v Speaker 1>teams left downs to play on Thanksgiving, the Patriots or

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:29.680
<v Speaker 1>one of them. So it was like, oh, here we go.

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, nope, Christmas Eve in Denver, it's on prime

0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:37.199
<v Speaker 2>time and you know it's gonna stop terrible, you know,

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:42.160
<v Speaker 2>it's terrible. Lastly, I do like the schedule, the fact

0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:47.640
<v Speaker 2>that we are basically our season is pre Germany post Germany,

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.480
<v Speaker 2>right like that's you know, because the bye week is

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 2>in there. It's not exactly right in the middle of Germany.

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.480
<v Speaker 1>It's week ten. It's not like week nine or week eight.

0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.679
<v Speaker 2>But it's close enough to the middle that that's how

0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 2>the season is gonna feel to me at least. Yeah,

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be let's get to Germany, let's play

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 2>in Germany, and then reset after the bye and then

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.240
<v Speaker 2>that that's when, as Bill Belichick would say, real football

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:09.439
<v Speaker 2>starts in November into.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I remember last year because people always say, like,

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:12.639
<v Speaker 1>when do you want bye week? When you want the

0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>bye week? In the schedule release video, last year was

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<v Speaker 1>probably way the one This year was outstanding. Credit to

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:19.720
<v Speaker 1>everybody worked on that. Do you remember the one last

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:21.720
<v Speaker 1>year was just like which was also great, Like it

0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:25.239
<v Speaker 1>is a very different kind of thing. But and people say,

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<v Speaker 1>when's the ideal bye week? I never quite knew its answer. Yeah,

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Ernie said the ideal the last year, Week ten was

0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the ideal bye week because you want as in the

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>middle of the season as possible, with slightly later preferable

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:44.159
<v Speaker 1>to slightly earlier. Right, So ten would be the ideal,

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess, or nine would be the ideal in an

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.119
<v Speaker 1>eighteen week season. Yeah, I feel like eleven is perfect

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty close. Like you can't complain about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's my last point is I'm I'm glad that

0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 2>they did take the bye after Germany because I think

0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 2>we're the whole team's gonna be wiping.

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Not everybody got that. I know people think that that's

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.199
<v Speaker 1>a guarantee. Buffalo's playing in London. I forget when it is,

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>but Buffalo's playing in London and then they play the

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:09.360
<v Speaker 1>next week. Their bye week isn't for like a month

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and a half. Yeah, that's until after international game. That

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>seems brutal. So I'm glad that that buy is coming

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>right after Germany. I think that really it's a blessing

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>in disguise that there's no other setup for a week

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>long trip someplace else, right, So we got one of those.

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Last year they had too, They had the Miami trip,

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 2>and they had the West Coast Vegas or Arizona Vegas

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.680
<v Speaker 2>back to back trip. This year is just going to

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 2>be Germany. They do have the joint practices in the summer,

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:38.400
<v Speaker 2>but that's a little bit. It's kind of its own thing.

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.479
<v Speaker 2>So I think that this the schedule from that aspect,

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 2>from a travel aspect to when Germany is to the

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.879
<v Speaker 2>bye week after Germany sets up. Okay, we knew the

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 2>opponents coming in. We knew it was going to be

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 2>a tough gauntlet of opponents coming in, and we'll see

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 2>what this team is made of.

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>One other interesting thing. I don't know if this means anything,

0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>just the way football's played and it being you know,

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 1>once a week kind of game, but it feels like

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years the schedule is very much

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>home road home road home road, and you'd get like

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe one double home in one double road. Yeah, this

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>year it's all over the place home home road, road home,

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:19.200
<v Speaker 1>road home road home home by and then it road

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>home road home road road home. So it evens out

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, I guess on the second half. But yeah,

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I you normally don't see it that that many combined,

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>right right, you know, home and road as staggered as

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it is, you normally see it pretty evenly distributed. Again,

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>because you're only playing once a week and you're preparing

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a home and all that. It's not the same as

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.359
<v Speaker 1>like when you look at a baseball schedule, you see

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>like a ten game road trip. It's not quite like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that stood out to me. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel like it usually is.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex andrew wants you to come to the Cocktail sat

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 2>cocktail party this Saturday before the road game at Miami, Miami, Florida.

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I think, is there Miami, George.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he's so.

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>We have a condo in state in Augustine. You can

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>tillgate and watch the Dogs and the Gators. David Andrews

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 2>would appreciate this.

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:13.479
<v Speaker 1>So what he's talking about is the Florida Georgia Rivalry,

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>which is one of the biggest in the SEC. David

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Andrews knows a lot about this. Yes, it's played in

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville every year neutral Site. The nickname for the rivalry

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is it's what is it the world's largest outdoor cocktail party?

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>The world's largest Maybe outdoor isn't any but that is

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>another bucket list. I have a group of friends that

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 1>we do college football stuff with, Like we just already

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>talked about and we want to do a yearly trip.

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 1>The cocktail party. Absolutely on the list. I'm assuming the

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:44.640
<v Speaker 1>emailer is a Dogs fan based off what he said.

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:49.199
<v Speaker 1>There doesn't it doesn't specify. Oh okay, I'd like to

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 1>go see it. Nothing against you.

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 2>He does say the road game at Miami, so I'd

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 2>assume that means he's a Georgia fan.

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, no, he's saying when the Patriots are in Miami.

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It must be that weekend. It must be that weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, I would like I don't I'm not a

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.120
<v Speaker 1>fan or against either team. I just kind of appreciate

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the sec Yeah, I would kind of like to see

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Florida get back to standing and see it as like

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.719
<v Speaker 1>a ranked game because George is just whooping Florida right

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>now in that series. Shout out to David Andrews. But

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>that is up there on the bucket list. The cocktail party.

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, well there's your college football thirty seconds and.

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Before yeah, it is the world's largest outdoor call.

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Before we get to better word same on the defense,

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to address one one thing. Yeah, and

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>last week we talked a little bit about Malie Cunningham,

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 2>and I rolled my eyes at the Malie Cuttingham buzz

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I think I might have compared it to Jeff Thomas

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 2>or something of the ilk of that, like, and I

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 2>rode the UDFA thing that we all right, you know,

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 2>nineteen straight years, who's the guy that's gonna make it

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty Yeah, you know, we all got to do it.

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 2>It's like a yearly tradition. People like it's it's a

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>it's an easy one. And I did watch the Molie

0:26:55.840 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Cunningham and I came away more optim mystic about him

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 2>developing at quarterback than anything.

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that.

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>There's some really big peaks and valleys to his game

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 2>as a passer, especially his downfield deep passing. He's he's

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.360
<v Speaker 2>an inaccurate deep passer right now. I think he completed

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty one percent of his deep passes last year. He's

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 2>not a very good twenty plus yard thrower right a

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 2>deep real deep ball, so that that's a concern. But

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I actually thought that his ability to throw, you know,

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>in rhythm, on time at the first and second level

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.479
<v Speaker 2>was better than expected. And he takes a little bit

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 2>off of me, like he does throw a little bit

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>of a of a catchable ball, you know, the old

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>pillowy catchable ball.

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Cliche.

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I think you can do that, and certainly he has

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the running ability. What he isn't is this cyborg Josh Allen,

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes off platform second reaction magician. Right, he's not

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 2>going to bring that to the table. He's not going

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>to run around for four seconds and then flip the

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 2>flick the wrist and fling it to the yards down

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 2>the field to an open receiver. Like that's not the

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 2>type of guy that he is, but he is more

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I would say, like Marcus Mariota. I don't know Tyrod

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Taylor like that.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Like he's more athletic than those guys.

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 2>But he's mobile in structure, like in design, and he

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>can scramble a little bit. But I wouldn't say that

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>he like I just mentioned that he's this off platform,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 2>second reaction or out of structure, not.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 1>An improviser than you. So what he's going to do?

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And look, he is supremely athletic and he's great with

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the ball in his hands, but it's not a when

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>he starts moving. So all right, here's I think what

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to say. Yeah, when when Mahomes or Alan

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>or Aaron Rodgers of these guys, when they start moving.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>When they play breaks down and they start using their legs,

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>they are still looking to throw, right, They're using their

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>legs to extend their window to throw the football. Yeah,

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Malik cunning him. He'll stand back in the pocket throw.

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>He's not a guy that's going to look to run first.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>But when it breaks down, he's running. He's not running

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to extend the play to throw. And there's a lot

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>of running to scramble.

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I assume they're more they are in the playbook like RPOs.

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>It might be like more like package style plays where

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 2>there are routes being run, but he clearly has like

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 2>a QB draw option. Oh yeah, right, and so it's

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like a it's an RPO draw, but the draws

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to the quarterback right. And he's got this ability where

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 2>his blockers are run blocking and they're working up to

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the second level of defenses are lead blocking. But he

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>still has some routes that he could branch off of

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 2>if he wants to, and if he likes the look

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>or if it's an easy completion, he might throw it,

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>but he more often than not runs the draw.

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>It's basically still the offense Lamar Jackson ran when he

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>was there, they really changed much. So yeah, I just

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>how much did you watch?

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I watched probably four or five games. I watched some

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>of it, you know, just broadcast angle, but I watched

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 2>like one or two of the all twenty two.

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>So my take on the Leae cunning him throughout his

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>four years at Louisville was just he was. There were

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>times where he looked good. Yeah, he was never good

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>enough for long enough for me to say, yeah, there's

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>real NFL quarterback up side there, like.

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, he played well against Florida State. That was

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>sort of the big game statistically for him. And then

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I watched the Syracuse game and he should have had

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 2>four turnovers in that game.

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, he was terrible. There's probably a handful of plays

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you can pull and he gave. You could

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>put together a long enough reel where you could sell somebody.

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>But I he just it. He gets very impatient, and

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I think his mechanics break down because of it.

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got a little bit of he doesn't throw

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>from an even plane. Yeah, his shoulders and his his

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>his axis is not even. So he tilts back like this.

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>And when you till back like dad, you air miil.

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 2>It's it's like that I forget who the mean is.

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>So it's a little bit of like a shot put.

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Just wait till we get to Joe Milton.

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>So you want to throw with your shoulders even, and

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 2>you want everything to just kind of come linear through

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>your body, and he kind of tilts back. Cam Newton

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>had the same issue. And when you do that, the

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.479
<v Speaker 2>ball it goes high. He's you sail it.

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is the technical term, but

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>it should be the technical term. He eats the football. Yeah, yeah,

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>he really does. And like it's it's all fixable. This

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>is a guy, he's older, he's been you know, he's

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a fives concern that you have is how much ceiling

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>does he have? It?

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>It's mechanically, I think it's fixable. But he kind of

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>throws the way he throws at this point, and I

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 2>think this is what a lot of people ran into

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 2>with Cam Newton. It's like, yeah, we can rework his

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>mechanics to be more by the book, but he's been

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>doing it this way for so long that the muscle

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 2>memory is just what it is, right, And I think

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>it's similar with Malie Cunningham to an extent. The other

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 2>thing that stood out to me with him is I

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>would really like to see them develop him at quarterback

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 2>and see where he can get to as a passer.

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 2>That the one thing that other than the mechanical type

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 2>of stuff is he's not a very good eye manipulator,

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 2>so he stares down receivers and he really brings defenders

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>to his intended targets, and especially his zone defenders will

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>just jump routes on him left and right, and and

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 2>it just that I think is more fixable seeing some.

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Of the mechanics because he's he he knows where to look. Yes,

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>problem is he looks there too long, but he certainly

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>knows how to read a defense. Yeah, let me throw

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>one more thing at you. Yeah, and you're gonna hate this,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>but I don't care. Cool. So everybody's assuming, oh, he's

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>super athletic, and you know Julian Edelman and they're a

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>tournament of receiver and he's gonna be great. So coming

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>out of high school, he was recruited. Part of the

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>reason he went to Louisville's they were one of the

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 1>few schools that were gonna let him play quarterback. He

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>was recruited to Alabama. He was recruited to Oklahoma. There's

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>a couple other like SEC Big twelve schools that were

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>recruiting him as a safety. Yeah, I did. That was

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>where he actually got most of the looks. So I

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>if he's not going to play quarterback and look, you

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>might as well see what you have with him in QUARTERBA. Yeah,

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually so.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 2>The reason why I brought it up is because last

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>week I dumped all over the idea, mainly because I

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 2>dumped all over the idea of him becoming a receiver

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 2>and being a being something right at receiver. But I'm

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to seeing him in camp though at quarterback. Yeah,

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 2>like I And I'm not talking about pushing Mac or

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>anything like that.

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm.

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Excited to see that skill set on the Patriots in

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>a training camp in preseason environment. I think there's definitely

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>a chance that he lights up a fourth quarter of

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a preseason game. He's got the experience and he's got

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the athleticism, and I think that that could happen. I

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>also think that there's definitely some intrigue and some positive

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>developments of scout team and what looks he can give them,

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 2>like for Week one against Jalen Hurts like this, This

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 2>is watered down Jalen Hurts. So what better way to

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 2>prepare for Jalen Hurts than to have a guy that

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 2>has a similar skill set but just isn't as good

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 2>as Jalen Hurts. It's better than putting Bailey's appy out there.

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Or I think what they were doing was Lin Bowden,

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 2>and that's why Lin Boden's not here anymore.

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Didn't Miles Bryant do it at one point? I think

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 1>so at a certain I would just say that, and

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree with all that. If he is going to

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>change positions, I wonder if he moves to the defensive

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>side of the ball, that'd be that.

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the fans would be too happy about

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>that because they want to see that guy with the

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>ball in his hands.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And I get that that Like, so, I'm not saying

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I broke down all his high school tape and this

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>is six years ago. Yeah, he make so that part

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>of what makes him so exciting with the ball in

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>his hands is his ability to quit, cut and change direction.

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you again, this is the high school level, massive disclimer.

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he can do this in the NFL.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.760
<v Speaker 1>It's gotten for a you watch him as a safety.

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>You talk about deep safeties like reading him and cutting rounds.

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 1>You watch him recognize her out, put his foot in

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the ground and undercut it. Yeah. Yeah, I understand why

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Alabama wanted him to play safety. That was six years ago.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>He goes, if he can still do it, who knows,

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>if he can do it at the NFL level, Maybe

0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>he look again trying a quarterback. Absolutely, Yeah, I'm just

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>if that's not gonna be the path, I'm just as

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>interested to seem as safety as it was so the

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>last thing.

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not completely out on this idea. If if,

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 2>if they get into the season and short yardage is

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a big problem for them, they just can't pick up

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 2>a third and one, or they can't punch it in

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 2>on the goal line, which really hasn't been an issue

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>for them. Honestly, last year it was, but everything was

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>an issue for them last year when they had McDaniels,

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't an issue. And I don't think it will

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 2>be an issue with O'Brien. But if it does become

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>an issue, or if they feel like they can trust

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 2>really cutting Ham, having some sort of short yardage package

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 2>with him at quarterback.

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not, it's it could be fun. Yeah, it could.

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>It could give them something. And that was the big

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>thing that stood out to me was there was a

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 2>couple of like third and ones where they would just

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>run zone read and what's the defense gonna do? Like

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.080
<v Speaker 2>if you crash inside, he's taken it off the ed

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 2>and he's got the four or five speed to turn

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 2>the corner and he can win foot races out there,

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>or you get the numbers inside like it, that's the advantage.

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 2>You turned into a college football and we know that's

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 2>the advantage. Yeah, And I think that there is a

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 2>package that could be in play.

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not usually a big proponent of that.

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't really.

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I think you have a quarterback and the quarterback plays right,

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I just I'm not a big proponent of like

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 2>the Taysom Hill thing, right, but with this offense, like

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe that that does get them better within the margins,

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that does bring them on you know, third and one,

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>they're now at eighty five percent instead of seventy five

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 2>percent or whatever, you know, whatever the numbers end up being.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>For what it is worth, Yes, maybe this is very little. Yeah,

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Bill O'Brien did that last year at Alabama. Yeah, they

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>they're backup. Course, everybody knows about Bryce Young. Their backup

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>quarterback is a guy named Jalen Milroe, who is a

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>very similar skill. I mean, Cunningham is a better thrower,

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>but like athletically is similar to Lee Cunningham. And they

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>would at times most on the goal line. I don't

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:02.800
<v Speaker 1>think they did it much in the middle of the field,

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like third and one and stuff like that, because they

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>wanted the ability to take deep shots there, but you

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>could move it over there. They would put Jalen Milroe

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>on the field and run read options with image a

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 1>mer Gibbs. Yeah, and they sprinkled in a couple of

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>RPOs just to kind of keep the defense. Honest, Bill

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Obrian absolutely has that in his back.

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not totally rulling it out. All right, Let's

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 2>get to better word Sam again. Eight five to five,

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Pats five hundred is the phone number if you want

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 2>to call in and weigh in on any of this,

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 2>like our Malik Cunningham wildcat package that sounds riveting. You

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 2>can give us a call. But I didn't know I

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted to. I don't mean this shit all over Malie Cunningham.

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 2>It was more of just like I get frustrated by

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 2>people that like, why can't we just hope Taekwon Thornton

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 2>ends up being good? Like why does it have to

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 2>be the UDFA quarterback that becomes a receiver that all

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, Oh, he's gonna be a super Like,

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 2>let's just let's hope the receivers become super stars.

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>You know where it is too. We kind of did

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>this last year with Bailey Zappi, where backup quarterback comes

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 1>in there but all of a sudden like, oh, he's

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>tom Brady. Yeah, look at this, he's gonna win the job.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 1>He's tom Bray. And it's like no, because not only

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 1>is it dumb, you're taking away like if it was

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>that easy to do what Tom Brady did wouldn't be impressive.

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>So everybody sees Malie Cunningham and says Julian Edelman. No,

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily. Also, Julian Edelman took like four years to

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>become Julian Edelman. He was not Julian Edelman as a rookie,

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's not a one for one comp And again,

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna say that, know the history. His second

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>best position besides, quarterback might not even be receiver, it

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>might be safety. Yeah.

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 2>And I would also say with Julian Edelman, they knew

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 2>when they drafted Julian Edelman, they weren't ensure exactly where

0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:36.439
<v Speaker 2>he was gonna play, but they knew it wasn't gonna

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 2>be quarterble.

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 1>They actually were gonna try him as a defensive backup

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 1>point I think, yeah, I mean they did later on,

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>but you know what I mean.

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 2>And also along those lines, Jacobe Myers was a receiver

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>in college, right, I know.

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Everybody that was a completely different right.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I know everybody knows that Jacobin Myers played quarterback in

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>his football career, but he changed over to wide receiver

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.240
<v Speaker 2>as a red shirt freshman at NC State and stayed

0:38:58.280 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 2>as a wide receiver.

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Of the rest of that would be like saying, oh,

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>have ke On White play tight end? Yeah? Right? Right?

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Which stop? All right?

0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of ke On White, let's get the better wear

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 2>of same. On defense, I will start with the defensive

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>line that was. That was a good segue, and uh,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>hear the names on the defensive line currently we have

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Christian Barmore, Lawrence Guy Dietrich, Wise, Devon Godshaw, Carl Davis,

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah Farms, Daniel Qualley, Sam Roberts, and one Keon White.

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I have Keon White as an end. I think he's

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>a hand in the dirt end with a three technique versatility.

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Were canting to Marcus Mitchell as.

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Special teamer, maybe a stand up guy in spurts or

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 2>in first down packages and things like that, but I

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I think he's truly an end. That's where I have him.

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 2>But in general better worse for same on the defensive line.

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Better better because they brought everybody back and then they

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>added key On White, so that's kind of easy one.

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I also think, you know, Christian Barmore was supposed to

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>unlock a lot last year.

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that that. Yeah, so let's hope that it

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 2>comes this way.

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I would say people were unhappy with his performance at

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the start of the year. I know a lot of

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>people were critical of him. I think he was better

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>than a lot of people gave him credit for. He

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't putting up stats, but if he actually went back

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and watched the games, he was influencing plays.

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, his stuff like his like you know, pressure rates

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and massruption rates are better than his sacked.

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Bright and then he had that knee injury. I think

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they brought him back too early, but

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>he didn't look the same. Yeah, when he came back.

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that issue was bothering him even after he returned.

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>So you hope right now he's fully healthy. They talk

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>about the year three jump, right, and how that's a

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>big one. I'm expecting a lot from Christian Barmore this year. Yeah.

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I have this image from last year in Cleveland of

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Barmore trying to figure out if he can go with

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the knee on the sidelines, and he's he's he's kind

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 2>of like do the block and dummy thing, and he's

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 2>throwing his hands into somebody and kind of pushing off

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.919
<v Speaker 2>the knee and seeing if he can explode the way

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 2>he wants to. And you could just see the visible

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 2>frustration on his face and his whole body language. It

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 2>was a tough injury for him that I definitely agree

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 2>lingered I'm gonna go better as well.

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I think this is an underrated.

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Group, like league wide, like I think this is a

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 2>sneaky good group. I do start to worry a little

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 2>bit about Lawrence Guy's age and effectiveness at this point,

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>but I think ideally, and not that I am shipping

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.479
<v Speaker 2>guy out of town or driving him to the bus

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 2>or anything, but I think ideally somebody like a Dietrich

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>wwis er Keon White ends up stepping up where Lawrence

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Guy's not playing the same type of snap tootal that

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 2>he used to.

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>They have enough guys that can fill that role that

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not super word. Yeah, the one thing I am

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:56.479
<v Speaker 1>if there was one knock on this group, if because

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>they've had trouble stopping the run the last couple of years. Yeah,

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>if Devon goes down. I know they like Carl Davis

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and he's a fine player, but you know that that

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.240
<v Speaker 1>they no tackle they could use no the nose tackles

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of helpen.

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they could probably use another one. Maybe, I

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think that they they have a look

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>right now of being a little bit more hybrid y

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.240
<v Speaker 2>upfront than even they are used to. And they're already

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 2>a very hybrid mixed match type of defensive front as

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 2>it is. But I do wonder if we see some

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.720
<v Speaker 2>more even or or tilted three four, which is basically

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 2>a four man front, Like you know, I think that

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 2>that's in play, that we have some more four on

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 2>the line looks, which they've they've done always and they've

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 2>always kind of had a little bit of that sprinkled in.

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't be shocked if that's more of a

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>base for them this year with Judan as a stand

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 2>up outside linebacker, but more in line over the tackle,

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 2>like almost like a five technique, and then the three

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 2>guys across with the hand in the dirt, like, I

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 2>think that that's a possibility that we see a decent

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>amount of that. Maybe even Keon White is that guy

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 2>that ends up being in that role and Judon's a

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit further out. All right, I'm doing edge defenders.

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>I know you don't like. You don't like edge as

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 2>a position.

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not a real position. It is a real position.

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a real position. No, it's a defensive end outside linebacker.

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 1>We use edge because coming into the draft, there are

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:20.280
<v Speaker 1>guys that in one system might play and in another

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>system might play outside linebacker. So, right, but that's going

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>into the draft and we don't know what system they're in,

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>so we can't classify them as one or the other. One.

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the Patriots. We're talking about a system

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>we know where they're going to be playing. All right,

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you even just say all right, you even alright, go ahead,

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Paipe just said you have Keon White is a defensive end.

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I do not. Is that edge? No, So you're just

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.879
<v Speaker 1>saying outside linebackers and you're calling them edge. Yeah, all right,

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>So say outside linebackers. Then there are three four outside linebackers.

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:50.479
<v Speaker 1>That's what they all right, Well, it's a three four defense,

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 1>so they're outside linebacker.

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I just said they're three four outside linebackers.

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, any three four defense or they're outside linebackers.

0:43:55.800 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Matthew Judon, josh u Ja, Anthony Jennings, Ronnie Perkins. You're

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to help me with this.

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>One, Okasi. I don't know the first name.

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't put Jelaniva in this group. I have

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 2>him with the inside linebackers or the off ball linebackers

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the edge though, but he's both. He's he's in the

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 2>he's a hybrid because there's some guys play on the

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 2>line and some guys play off the line. My goodness, Uh,

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Jelaniva is is the one guy that if you're if

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 2>you're doing the the old uh you know, what's the

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 2>circles with.

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>The little diagram.

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 2>He's the one that's in the middle right of the

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 2>linebacker group.

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's just him. Who else do you

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>think is in the middle Mack Wilson.

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I think Mack Wilson, he would when he plays on

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the line though he's in line right, like he's like

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 2>over the guard or over the center. If we're talking

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 2>about true like end of the line players. I think

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 2>TV's the only one that truly does that at a

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 2>blend the lines. Jawan Bentley has done it like at

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>times and in like certain game planned package.

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a middle lineback. So this group, this edge group.

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I think when you factor in that Tavai can fill

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 2>in on that edge group where necessary. It makes the

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 2>depth look a little bit better there because on paper,

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 2>you really don't know outside of Judan and Uche, if

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 2>you're getting anything from any of these guys, right, especially

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:26.479
<v Speaker 2>with Ronnie Perkins, like you know it's he a human being,

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, So you don't really know if you're

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 2>getting anything out of the rest of these guys. But

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 2>but Tovai kind of solidifies that depth.

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:35.840
<v Speaker 1>And I would also.

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Say that they might view I view Keon White because

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.919
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and eighty five pounds. I viewed Keon White

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 2>as an end, as a hand in the dirt end.

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 2>But maybe they think he can stand up. He does

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 2>have great athleticism, so maybe they think that he can

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 2>stand up better or worse the same out of this

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 2>edge group.

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Same, maybe a little bit better if you just count

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>on internal growth from guys like and Perkins and Jennings.

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm going same. Yeah.

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I think I asked you today about being more of

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 2>every down player. He played forty percent of the snaps

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 2>last year. I've always hoped that he was going to

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:11.879
<v Speaker 2>develop into a sixty sixty five seventy percent snap guy.

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 2>His answer to me was interesting that everybody kind of

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 2>he said, everybody has their role. Everybody has their role.

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:22.440
<v Speaker 2>It's about doing your job, maximizing your role. That that

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 2>makes it sound to me like he knows I'm a

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.400
<v Speaker 2>situational pass rusher here. I'm not gonna play on first

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 2>down unless it's some sort of matchup situation and I'm

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna rush the passer, which if he has eleven and

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 2>a half sacks again then fine.

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Which meanwhile, too, there's nothing wrong with being a situational

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher. These guys are getting paid now like your

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>full time players. Lucas van Ness just went in the

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>top fifteen in the draft.

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, all right, so that's edge inside linebacker

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 2>is a linebacker? Yeah, because the edge is edge. Jawan Bentley,

0:46:56.719 --> 0:47:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Jelani Tavaiz in here as well, Raykwan, McMillan, mac Wilson,

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Marty Mapoo with the linebackers. Sure, aund on that linebacker,

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Marty Mapho, Chris Board, Terrez Hall, and the most surprising

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 2>UDFA signing in the entire league all thirty two teams,

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Helig, who I almost put with the special teamers,

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, but I have him here

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:24.880
<v Speaker 2>at linebackers. Who the heck knows.

0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Because he already missed Calvin Mounson. So oh yeah, Kevin

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Muss with the special team. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this for sure. I think there are

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 1>teams that did not know he was in the draft.

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I think there are teams that didn't know he existed.

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not trying to pick on the kid, but

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 2>he was at Appalachian State. He put his name in

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 2>the portal right to transfer, and the idea was that

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 2>he was going to go to some FCS school and

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>be a stud linebacker at an FCS school and then maybe,

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 2>like you know, Marty Mapho style, you know, get get

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 2>his name out there and get into the draft. And

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots just called him up and offered him a contract.

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, oh, he took his name. That that that's what

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. He took his name out of the transfer

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>portal and cleared for the draft. But it was I

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>don't I'm still trying to figure out exactly how he

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>technically did. This was after the deadline, Yeah, so wild.

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I think there may have been teams that legitimately didn't

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:15.800
<v Speaker 1>know he was available.

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, even if they knew who So he's a

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 2>he's a special teamer. He's a four faced special teams.

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>But no, he played linebacker apps State, not very much.

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 1>He had like fifty snaps in his career. Are you sure? Yeah?

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I remember seeing all right. Well, he

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of impactful ones because I remember see him.

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, he I think there are teams that

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't know he was available, even if they were aware

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of him. Oh good for the Patriots.

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 2>That's that's why that's why they paid Macro and Cam

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Williams the big bucks. Anyways, a better where it's the

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 2>same at linebacker, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna hope for

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 2>better because I'm I'm polish about Marty Mapu. I think

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 2>this guy is a player like I. I maybe I've

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:53.919
<v Speaker 2>come around on him because I was harsh about it

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 2>live because I was like, wait, who oh, yeah, that

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 2>guy that got invited to the Senior Bowl after having

0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 2>a good end f l p A game even the

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Senior Bowl. Admitted to me, Jim Nagy said he wasn't

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 2>on our radar until the NFL p A game, Like

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 2>he was not invited to the Senior Bowl until very

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 2>very he was a call up to the Senior Bowl

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 2>from the NFL p A game. And you know, Nikki

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 2>made an interesting point that usually they they had the

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Shrine Bowl the week before, so they had some call

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 2>ups from the Shrine Bowl too, So now they're really

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 2>going from what's that like, Honolulu Bowl, the the one

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 2>that uh.

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:31.839
<v Speaker 1>The NFL, the NFL PA Bowl, and uy ay there's

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 1>another one. Yeah, because what's his name? The quarterback win

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 1>m VP of both.

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 2>All right, so I'm gonna I'm gonna say better. I'm

0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 2>really hopeful that the Patriots are are hoping that Marty

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 2>Mapu and we'll see. I think the biggest thing is

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.239
<v Speaker 2>with him is that he is he gonna be healthy

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 2>enough in camp with the shoulder to to go at

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 2>full tilt and earn this role. But I think they're

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 2>hopeful that that he's going to carve out that role.

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 2>And I know it's not the sexiest thing in the world,

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 2>but I think Chris Board is going to be a

0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 2>really good Patriot. Like I think that that's gonna be

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 2>one of those guys that maybe not as useful on

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 2>defense as as some of the other guys like an

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Adrian Phillips or someone like that, but just someone that

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.879
<v Speaker 2>fits the suit right, like just that's a Patriot, core

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 2>special teams guy, good depth be So I'm gonna say

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit better.

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm with you on the I'm surprised to hear

0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you say that about Chris Board. I've been comparing it

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to kind of like if Brandon Bolden played defense, like

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that kind of role where he's gonna be a core

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:33.240
<v Speaker 1>special teamer and he'll give you a bit on defense.

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 1>We need him by the way, it's the Hula Bowl

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and hahwaii. Yeah, I knew something. Hula Bowl and the

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>nfl PA Bowl in La Yah. Holton Aylors won MVP

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:42.359
<v Speaker 1>of both of them as well as the Birmingham Bull

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>He just wins MVP of bowl games. Yeah.

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 2>So the NFL PA Bowl is the one that that

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>got Marty map who on the that was the one

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.319
<v Speaker 2>No pun intended that that naggy and the Senior Bowl

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 2>invited him off of they they heard from guys that

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 2>were there, said, you got to see this kid, Marty

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 2>mapp who from Sacramento stay.

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>They pull up the film on him. They invited him

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to the Senior Bowl like the next day. So in

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>middle linebackers hall say better kind of like the defensive line,

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:11.760
<v Speaker 1>they brought back literally everybody, and then they added Marte

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Mapu and Chris Board.

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 2>So were you surprised. I think we've maybe touched on

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:16.840
<v Speaker 2>this a little bit, but I'm a little bit surprised

0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Mac Wilson still here.

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>For what they got him for.

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Not really, I guess, like I'm not surprised, Like I'm

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:24.839
<v Speaker 2>not saying they overpaid him or anything like that, but

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 2>they basically benched him after he didn't push Josh Allen

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 2>out of bounds in that in that first match up

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 2>against Buffalo last year.

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:36.120
<v Speaker 1>And we played a lot on specialty. He's played a

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>lot on special teams. Yeah. No, I'm saying for what

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>they paid him, saying he got very little money. My

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>guess was he didn't have a ton of options of

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 1>where to go, right, and they we know this.

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 2>It's a tough spot for him. I guess it's more

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 2>of what I'm saying right, because he's not gonna play

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:50.280
<v Speaker 2>it's very.

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Well on defense. I think the idea is he's somewhere

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:55.200
<v Speaker 1>where he knows the system, so you can come out,

0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 1>have a really good camp and then maybe get cut

0:51:57.640 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and end up elsewhere. Yeah.

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I could see that. I definitely could see

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 2>him getting cut in camp if Marty Mapp, who has

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 2>has a real camp. Yeah, and uh and looks apart

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 2>all right. Cornerbacks long list eleven guys, Christian Gonzalez, Jonathan Jones,

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Marcus Jones, Jack Jones, Miles Bryant, a Mere speed Is,

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Isaiah Bolden, Sean Wade, Quadre Moseley, Rodney Randall, and Tajes.

0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:24.279
<v Speaker 2>This has to be better. This is definitely better in there.

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, there's some special teamers. But you know

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:29.759
<v Speaker 2>guys that are I think are are gonna be working

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 2>out at corner and training camp, right, you know they

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 2>are still gonna be there. I think the most interesting

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 2>thing to me about this group is other than Christian Gonzales,

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:42.319
<v Speaker 2>which that video yesterday did numbers and it was it

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 2>was downright sexy. I told you guys, his hips didn't lie.

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 2>He'd secure it all over the field. And rookie Minnie

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Camp apparently.

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:52.439
<v Speaker 1>What we saw so combine. He changes direction, he looks

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>like he's on skates, he looks like he could be

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:56.480
<v Speaker 1>playing defenseman for the Bruins.

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.359
<v Speaker 2>And Girodmeo looks at him like he's a perfect ten,

0:52:59.600 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 2>which I can appreciate.

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:05.240
<v Speaker 1>You include Jalen Mills. No, okay, I did not. Uh.

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 2>The big thing for me, other than Christian Goanzalez is

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 2>that I would like to see them make Marcus Jones

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 2>the full time slot this year. And uh, I'm with

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the fans for the most the majority of fans that

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the time has come for Miles Bryant to be either

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:27.279
<v Speaker 2>significantly demoted or maybe he is a practice squad guy.

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>That's a game day elevation when they need him that

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing. They have too much talent, like real

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:36.280
<v Speaker 2>cover talent on this roster. Now for guys like Miles

0:53:36.320 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Bryant to be playing serious time.

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:40.759
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have so many matchup opportunities because my question is,

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 1>where does Jonathan Jones play? I think before you can

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>get to Marcus Jones, where does Jonathan Jones?

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:47.839
<v Speaker 2>I think he plays in the fields, Like I think

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 2>he's he's with Z receivers like Tyreek Hill, like those

0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 2>move guys.

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>So Jack Jones is the third guy, then.

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I think Jack Jones is really the fourth guy. I

0:53:56.520 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 2>think Christian Gonzales is your outside boundary, John Jones your

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 2>field corner, and I think Marcus Jones your slot, and I.

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Meant third on the like third boundary, yeah, third boundary guy. Okay, yeah,

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm with But you also have the flexibility if you

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.240
<v Speaker 1>need to move Jonathan Jones inside, you could go because

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you could make an argument their three best

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>corners are Christian Zalez, Jonathan Jones, and Jack Jones. Yeah,

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.799
<v Speaker 1>and and like then you get Mark. You take Marcus

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Jones off the field, which sucks because I just want

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:27.440
<v Speaker 1>him on the field.

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I want him on the field for so many reasons.

0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I think inside too, he's gonna have that instinctive ability

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 2>to like hunt the football a little bit more than

0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.879
<v Speaker 2>if he's pressed up against the boundary. I just feel

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 2>like there's a lot more capabilities there.

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.319
<v Speaker 2>The other thing you can do, like they're obviously built

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:45.880
<v Speaker 2>to match up really well against like teams like Miami.

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:50.760
<v Speaker 2>With those two guys, I think yeah, And then with

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the Bills, I do think in an absolute ideal world,

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Christian Gonzales is so good that it doesn't matter what

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:03.319
<v Speaker 2>addie type, what skill set, whatever, He's going to take

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:03.799
<v Speaker 2>the number one.

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 1>To say, in ideal world, he clamps the fun digs.

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, in an ideal world, he can clamp the Von

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Diggs one week, and then he can clamp Garrett Wilson

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 2>the next week, and then he can go, you know whatever. Yeah,

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's ever going to pass. Jonathan Jones

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:20.239
<v Speaker 2>is the ideal guy against Tyreek Hill. But in terms

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.120
<v Speaker 2>of those, you know, the the more natural not not

0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:27.520
<v Speaker 2>guys that run a four to one, right in an

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 2>ideal world, but I think as a rookie, we could

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:34.640
<v Speaker 2>see a decent amount of Christian Gonzalez on an island

0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 2>against the number two and Jonathan Jones on the number

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 2>one guy with help. Like, I think that that could

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:43.839
<v Speaker 2>be especially against Buffalo. Like it against Buffalo, it's Gonzales

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 2>against Gabe Davis, and then it's Jonathan Jones with a

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 2>bracket or with safety help over the top against the

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Von Diggs. Like, I think that that's more realistic because

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to put too much on Christian Gonzalez

0:55:55.320 --> 0:55:55.680
<v Speaker 2>right away.

0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>The one other thing they could do, and this is

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:01.920
<v Speaker 1>now we're kind of getting ahead, but does Jonathan Jones

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 1>You could put it and but this is all good

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>because the reality is we're throwing out all these different options.

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 1>They'll probably do all of these to some extent. Jonathan

0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:16.760
<v Speaker 1>j sorry, Christian zoal Is on one boundary, Jack Jones

0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:18.800
<v Speaker 1>on the other, Marcus Jones in the slot, and that

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Jones is your deep safety because we've seen him

0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 1>play there and he's playing as well right And I

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:26.359
<v Speaker 1>know people think that Jalen Mills is kind of gonna

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 1>step in for Devin mccordy. I think it's gonna be

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:31.160
<v Speaker 1>by committee. Yea, I said before, you know, how do

0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you get your three best corners on the field, and

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>we do this with the offensive line all the time. Yeah,

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 1>put your five best out there. Find a way to

0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 1>make it work. If we're gonna apply that logic to

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the secondary, the way to get the most talent on

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the field is Jack Jones, Christian Zas on the boundary,

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Jones on the slot, Jonathan Jones, Kyle Kyle Dugart,

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Adrian Phillips at safety. That's your most talented secondary those players,

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 1>however you were arranging.

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the interesting thing, and we'll get to

0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 2>the safeties here in a second, is, Yeah, Jalen Mills

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 2>is a is a little bit of a wild card.

0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:06.440
<v Speaker 2>And I I don't think Jalen Mills is converting to

0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 2>safety to be a deep safety.

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think so either. I think he's a

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 1>tight end stop. Yeah, I agree as well. So here's

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:13.560
<v Speaker 1>what I have at safe. Wait real, two more things

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:15.880
<v Speaker 1>on the corners. Yes, when Jalen Mills is it. I

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 1>did this on Patriots Feat the other week. We actually

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 1>did the depth charts for like base defense and passing

0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>down defense, Jalen Mills is coming on to almost take

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker off the field. Correct. When Jalen Mills comes on.

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 1>It's to take a linebacker off to man up on

0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a on a tight end, yes, or maybe I don't know,

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a running back, big wide receiver. The other thing i'd

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 1>say on Myles Bryant because you mentioned him real quick,

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Miles Bryant needs to if he's gonna play defense, play

0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 1>safety because as much as people want to hate on

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Miles Bryant, and I get it, he's looked bad. He is.

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>He's not an NFL man cover corner. They have used

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.360
<v Speaker 1>him completely wrong. You can't put him on Isaia McKenzie.

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 1>He's not fast enough.

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 2>He's not a man corners. He's not fast enough to

0:57:58.680 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 2>be a man corner. In the end, there are two

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 2>play zone just fine.

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I will say there are two things Miles Bryant does

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>very well. Yeah, he knows. He's very smart. He knows

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.200
<v Speaker 1>what he's looking at. He can dissect the play and

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:12.280
<v Speaker 1>he knows where he's supposed to go right now. Getting

0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>there quick enough is the other thing. But like he

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 1>can get there, the other thing he does he's a

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:18.840
<v Speaker 1>surprisingly good tackler, especially for his size. And I know

0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>people will go back to that game against the Jets

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 1>two years ago where he got like run over for

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:24.880
<v Speaker 1>a touchdown. Yeah. Also the he got run over and

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>by ninety pins all things considered, for a defensive back,

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a pretty good tackler. Are you trying to disagree

0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:34.640
<v Speaker 1>with me? No, I think he's a good tackler. I do.

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 2>My point is is that, like we tend to isolate

0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 2>like one or two plays, Yeah, especially when it comes

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:40.120
<v Speaker 2>to tackling.

0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I always hear this.

0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 2>And this is not to go on some like rant here,

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 2>but I always hear people that that, and they call

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:48.920
<v Speaker 2>into the show, the email on the show too, that

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:55.600
<v Speaker 2>complain about the Patriots tackling. The Patriots are routinely, routinely

0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 2>one of the best tackling defenses in the NFL, like

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 2>number one, like top five and in mistackle rate in

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the good way every single year, every single year. Yeah,

0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 2>So what Dad tells you is that there's a lot

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 2>of mistackles every single week. It's hard to tackle these guys, Okay.

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Especially now.

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's hard to tackle these guys. The Patriots

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:17.760
<v Speaker 2>are one of the best tackling defenses in the league.

0:59:17.840 --> 0:59:19.800
<v Speaker 1>So to go to bring it back to Miles Bryant,

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:24.000
<v Speaker 1>he recognizes plays well, he's a good tackler. To me,

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 1>if he's gonna play on defense, I'm not saying he

0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 1>should be the replacement for Devin mccordy, but as a

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:32.400
<v Speaker 1>sub deep safety. Put him on the back end where

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:34.520
<v Speaker 1>everything's in front of him. He's coming up on the play,

0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 1>he's not chasing to put him on the back end.

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Let him diagnose the play in front of him, step up,

0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 1>make the play in that role as like a reserve

0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 1>in that kind of role, not terrible, he'd be. Yeah,

0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what he's gonna give you what you need.

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And then he play him on special But at best

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:51.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a dinebacker, right, he's like the sixth defensive back

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:53.240
<v Speaker 1>on What I'm saying is stop putting him out there

0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is a true slot corner to man up receivers. He

0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:58.480
<v Speaker 1>can't do that, But that's not indicative of the player

0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 1>he is. He does other things well. I just think

1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:05.320
<v Speaker 1>his rookie year, his rookie year in twenty twenty, he

1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:06.680
<v Speaker 1>was actually asked to do a lot of what he

1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 1>did well, and I think he looked pretty good. Yeah,

1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the last two years, they haven't necessarily asked him to

1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 1>do what he does best, not a lot, and I

1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:16.120
<v Speaker 1>think they should try to get back to.

1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:20.960
<v Speaker 2>That fair enough safeties Kyle Dugar, Adrian Phillips, ja Bill Peppers,

1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Mills, Joshua bred Bledsoe, and Brad Hawkins.

1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:27.320
<v Speaker 1>So I say a Boldon might be a safety too

1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:30.640
<v Speaker 1>every time in my corner right now, that's fair, But

1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he might be a safety.

1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:34.959
<v Speaker 2>So I have to say worse about this group because

1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I have just way too much damn respect for Devin

1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Saturday to say better or even Sam, So I have

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:42.040
<v Speaker 2>to say worse for this group.

1:00:42.320 --> 1:00:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But I am.

1:00:43.000 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Really as a as a film junkies and nerds that

1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:49.720
<v Speaker 2>we are, I am just really fascinated to see how

1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:52.840
<v Speaker 2>exactly they go about replacing Devin mccordy and who plays

1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:55.760
<v Speaker 2>where and what that's gonna be. Something that I'll probably

1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:59.400
<v Speaker 2>do a breakdown at some point on and really log

1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:01.959
<v Speaker 2>like who's where and what role and things like that.

1:01:02.760 --> 1:01:07.040
<v Speaker 2>The main thing that I think here, I believe that

1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:11.240
<v Speaker 2>between Adrian Phillips and Kyle Dugger, those two guys I

1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:14.760
<v Speaker 2>think are gonna be the true free safeties in this group.

1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:18.120
<v Speaker 2>They'll probably be a little bit interchangeable and they'll probably

1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:20.040
<v Speaker 2>play a little bit more split safety than we've seen

1:01:20.080 --> 1:01:21.800
<v Speaker 2>them in the past. Are too high, you know'll cover

1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:26.320
<v Speaker 2>two style. Jalen Mills to me, is there to cover

1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:29.120
<v Speaker 2>tight ends. I think that's just gonna be his role,

1:01:29.520 --> 1:01:32.120
<v Speaker 2>and that then frees up Dugger of course, to be

1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:34.240
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more of a rover or like a

1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:36.640
<v Speaker 2>rat or a deep safety and be a little bit

1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:39.920
<v Speaker 2>more of that instinctive ballhwker in the middle of the defense,

1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:41.960
<v Speaker 2>which I think has a lot of value.

1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:44.040
<v Speaker 1>One of the big things.

1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:47.240
<v Speaker 2>That I've always thought about Dugger and I hope that

1:01:47.280 --> 1:01:49.640
<v Speaker 2>this is the long term plan, and I hope he

1:01:49.840 --> 1:01:52.480
<v Speaker 2>is in the long term plans. By the way, is

1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that he's his best use is covering

1:01:57.680 --> 1:02:01.000
<v Speaker 2>tight ends. I think that that really pigeonholes him to

1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:03.480
<v Speaker 2>not being able to make as much impact on the

1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:06.520
<v Speaker 2>ball as he truly could. I've always said that I

1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:09.640
<v Speaker 2>think he's Rodney Harrison right like I think ideally he's

1:02:09.880 --> 1:02:12.960
<v Speaker 2>a guy that like Rodney, who would just fill up

1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the stat sheet like don't you think presser on the quarterback,

1:02:15.760 --> 1:02:20.360
<v Speaker 2>forrest fumbles, interceptions, tackles like always around the ball, And

1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:22.600
<v Speaker 2>that's really what I want to see them do with

1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Duggart because that type of playmaking, I think it

1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:28.400
<v Speaker 2>would really help out this defense, especially now that they

1:02:28.440 --> 1:02:31.240
<v Speaker 2>have Christian Gonzales to kind of steady the back end

1:02:31.280 --> 1:02:34.080
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more where it's can have some players

1:02:34.120 --> 1:02:37.080
<v Speaker 2>that are maybe a little bit more volatile, right and

1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:39.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of going for those big plays instead of just

1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:43.720
<v Speaker 2>always playing positionally soundball. I just really liked the idea

1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:46.760
<v Speaker 2>of Kyle dugger being a little bit more free, Like

1:02:46.880 --> 1:02:50.120
<v Speaker 2>let's let's let's take the training wheels off. Let's stop

1:02:50.120 --> 1:02:52.280
<v Speaker 2>putting him on the tight end where he just has

1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:55.440
<v Speaker 2>this one guy and that's just his assignment on this play,

1:02:55.920 --> 1:02:59.400
<v Speaker 2>and let's make him a jack of all trades, like truly,

1:02:59.440 --> 1:03:01.960
<v Speaker 2>because he's got that type of athleticism and he's got

1:03:01.960 --> 1:03:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that type of nose for the football. So like they

1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:07.800
<v Speaker 2>used to do with Rodney right, like just everywhere, that's

1:03:07.840 --> 1:03:09.480
<v Speaker 2>what I want to see them be with Kyle Duggar.

1:03:09.560 --> 1:03:11.720
<v Speaker 1>So on the safety position as a whole, I say better,

1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:13.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like it's the opposite. Remember last week and

1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:15.880
<v Speaker 1>we did offensive line, it was I feel better, but

1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:19.360
<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't really mean much. Yeah, I feel worse,

1:03:19.600 --> 1:03:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess because they don't have Devin mccorty, but it

1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:24.040
<v Speaker 1>still might be the best position group on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just gives him a lot more flexibility because

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<v Speaker 2>and Devin even said this, like you always knew where

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<v Speaker 2>Devin was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a little ewing theory going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Devin is a center fielder, and you always knew he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be there, and it kind of made

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else, like Kyle Dugger, it made them fit into

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<v Speaker 2>other roles, right, Like Kyle Dugger had had to learn

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<v Speaker 2>the Chung style role because that was his way on

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<v Speaker 2>the field because he wasn't going to play free safety

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<v Speaker 2>because Devin McCarty was blocking him at playing from playing

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<v Speaker 2>free safety. So he just had to be that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there is an even better level for Kyle Duggar now

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<v Speaker 2>that Devin McCarty isn't here in a weird way, even

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<v Speaker 2>though the team as a whole I think gets worse

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<v Speaker 2>from Devin McCarty, I think there's individual players, Kyle Duggar especially,

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<v Speaker 2>that might get better from Devin mccorty not being here

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<v Speaker 2>in his own vacuum, right, not not saying as an

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<v Speaker 2>entire defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, just on Dougger real quick. It's to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of bring back the conversation we had last week. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not asking I'm not asking you this to pick

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<v Speaker 1>a fight. I'm asking this because I'm legitimately asking you,

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<v Speaker 1>said Rodney Harrison. Yeah, if Rodney Harrison enters the league

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<v Speaker 1>now with position to see play here or everywhere, just

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<v Speaker 1>in like if he was in the trouble linebacker, Yeah exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So and that's the role you want, Kyle Duggar.

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<v Speaker 2>I want Kyle Duggar to basically be a rover, like

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<v Speaker 2>I want him to not have an assignment. I want

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<v Speaker 2>him to just play football like Seaball, get ball, Kyle, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I want, because you know what I really

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<v Speaker 2>want in my my my Wildest dreams Taylor Swift reference.

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<v Speaker 1>You like that? Okay he didn't know that, did you? No?

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<v Speaker 1>God damn, come on, that was a good one. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that one of our songs in my wild Dreams? Yes? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I like my Wildest Dreams?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kyle Duggar, you to see him like streaking across

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<v Speaker 2>the field and Josh Allen's trying to scramble and Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>Duggar just comes out of nowhere and just lights him up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's that's what I want Sea Wall get ball, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're in zone and you're you're playing the football

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<v Speaker 2>in the air, or you're attacking the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 2>and he when they allow him to do that, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how we had what five defensive touchdowns or whatever, the

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<v Speaker 2>three defensive touchdowns whatever it was last year. Like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how you get to that number is because he's just

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<v Speaker 2>he's just flying.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want him to be a guy that could

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<v Speaker 1>push like thirty thirty. Yeah, interesting, I do You're essentially

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<v Speaker 1>he's Rodney Harris. You want him to be box safety

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<v Speaker 1>at Red Yes, interesting Rodney Harrison. Okay, yeah, you're not right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only two thirty thirty guys, Rodney Harrison, ray Lewis.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, Rodney Harrison. Thirty thirty being interceptions and yeah

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<v Speaker 1>we're interceptions crews. We're gonna get the specialists. Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're worried about us doing the specialists here

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<v Speaker 2>in a second, but I want to take Patty from

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<v Speaker 2>Aguam on the phone. Thanks for hanging on, Patty.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up hey anytime? Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>What you're talking about? Defense? Is it crazy to think

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<v Speaker 3>that if this defense is statistically like a top three

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<v Speaker 3>but they also look and play like a top three

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<v Speaker 3>defense this year. And I'm going to give you, guys

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<v Speaker 3>my my offensive breakout player. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be Max this year. And if like Mac has seasons

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<v Speaker 3>similar to like what he looked like his senior year

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<v Speaker 3>in Alabama. I'm not saying that he's gonna like throw

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<v Speaker 3>for forty eight touchdowns and five thousand yards, but if

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<v Speaker 3>he looks if he looks like he can play. Is

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<v Speaker 3>it crazy to think that this team could win like

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<v Speaker 3>between ten and twelve games this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think twelve is pushing it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's crazy for them to win ten

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<v Speaker 2>ten games if Mac, yeah, a step, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's crazy. But I love the optimism Patty that

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<v Speaker 2>that Matt Jhones is your breakout player. I like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think certainly, and thanks for the call, Patty,

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<v Speaker 2>I think certainly, the the way that they get to

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<v Speaker 2>that level is if Mac breaks out right, like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the only way, exactly Like I as much as I

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<v Speaker 2>i'm I'm bullish on the defense, I think the defense

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be good. I think the collection of players

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<v Speaker 2>on offense is going to be better because of the coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only way that they truly let's not I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even like, let's forget about win totals. The only

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<v Speaker 2>way they win a playoff game or are truly competitive

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<v Speaker 2>in a playoff game, so that means they made the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs and they potentially win one is if mac Jones

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<v Speaker 2>has a breakout year. Right, that's it, right, That's what

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<v Speaker 2>it comes down to you. All right, let's do your specialists.

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<v Speaker 2>I have specialists, and I have cover jases, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>have we're doing too Oh wow, you really got it.

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<v Speaker 2>So on specialists, we're not doing kicker, puncher, long snap

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<v Speaker 2>for alsover on, they're they're just specialists. We have you

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<v Speaker 2>realize that they have competition at every spot. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of funny technically yeaheah. Joe Cardona, Tucker Addington,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Folk, Chad Ryland, Bryce Behringer, crawless weightman crawlss.

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<v Speaker 1>That was cordless cordless cordless weightman. No, now you have

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<v Speaker 1>me confused.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's cordless. You're right, Uh, better, We're same.

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<v Speaker 2>Is kind of hard on this one because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what the rookies are. If they're gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to look they're better at punter.

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<v Speaker 1>They're better That's what I was gonna say. They got

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<v Speaker 1>to better punter. They're better punter. Kicker is a question mark.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, how real did you think Nick folks slide

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<v Speaker 1>was at the end of last year. But the reality

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<v Speaker 1>is even if there's a chance that that was a

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<v Speaker 1>sign of just this is who he is now, he's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seventies done. Yeah, you so want to get ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of it at kicker. You don't want to have a

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<v Speaker 1>kicker mid season who doesn't have kickckick in long term,

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<v Speaker 1>they're in better shape. And they just made Joe cardonat

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<v Speaker 1>the highest paid well for like a month, he was

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<v Speaker 1>the highest pay right snapper in the NFL's got broken.

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker Addington is here for a training camp and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder, let me just point that out there. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>freaked out that they are. Why do they have to

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<v Speaker 1>make in the highest paid long snapper's highest paid anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>I think was the Ravens guy broke it. Every long

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<v Speaker 1>snapper that gets paid becomes the highest paid long snapper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's get paid, right anyways, Uh, that's just what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna put a little bit of pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on Chad Ryland. Chad Ryland has to be has to

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<v Speaker 1>win that competition. If you're gonna tell me that you

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<v Speaker 1>used a fourth round pick on the guy you're cutting

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<v Speaker 1>because Nick folks a better kicker than him, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be tough to pill this wall. They need Chad

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<v Speaker 1>Ryland to work out. They do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying it's like the end of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, Fire Belichick is the kicker you No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that, but they really need that to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't miss on two kicker picks.

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<v Speaker 2>And especially when you're Dick in the fourth round, when

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<v Speaker 2>you have all these other needs and you take a

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<v Speaker 2>kicker anyways, you right it up for him, which like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really care about, but like that's also a

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<v Speaker 2>part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was where they had to take him to get him,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Niners took Moody ninety nine. That's the game.

1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:14.519
<v Speaker 1>They were playing the game. But if he doesn't pan out,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like they panicked that Moody went and they

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<v Speaker 1>just took the next guy. Yeah, yeah, there is there

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<v Speaker 1>is some weight on that pick.

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<v Speaker 2>There is one hundred all right cover Jases, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously some some guys like Chris Board and maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>of the rookie corners like Bolden and a mere Speed

1:10:30.080 --> 1:10:32.479
<v Speaker 2>that might factor in here. But these are just pure

1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:35.479
<v Speaker 2>cover Jason in my mind. Matthew Slater, De Marcus Mitchell,

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<v Speaker 2>Cody Davis, Brennan Scooer, Calvin Munson, and Roley Webb.

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<v Speaker 1>Same, same, maybe a little better, just because you figure

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<v Speaker 1>they get Cody Davis back, right, they lost him last

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<v Speaker 1>year early on the speaky one. We don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>he'll look like. He had a pretty serious injury and

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<v Speaker 1>will he be the same guy, but same, maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Sam, I think Sam, But I do

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<v Speaker 2>think as a unit. I mean, the amount of resources

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<v Speaker 2>that they've invested into special teams this offseason to make

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<v Speaker 2>that unit better is kind of wild, like when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Really forget too Actually, because you did this last week

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<v Speaker 1>with the quarterbacks. You brought up Bill O'Brien to say

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks will be better. Joe Judge is back over

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<v Speaker 1>there now. Yeah, so yeah, I'll say better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And if you invest this much and I and look,

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of fans already there with cam accord, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of people out there. I

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<v Speaker 2>get this once a week, like like why does camic

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<v Speaker 2>cord still have a job? Right, Like I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>tell you how many times I've heard that I am

1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:33.320
<v Speaker 2>with Bill on this. I think camccord's a good coach.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think he loves football. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>loves special teams. And you need to love special teams

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<v Speaker 2>to be a special teams coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's not.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many weird nuances to knowing anything about special

1:11:48.200 --> 1:11:50.360
<v Speaker 2>teams that if you're really going to nerd out and

1:11:50.439 --> 1:11:54.360
<v Speaker 2>learn about like angles of like holding wherever when he

1:11:54.400 --> 1:11:56.760
<v Speaker 2>taught us that, like the different Like if you're really

1:11:56.760 --> 1:11:59.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna nerd out and learn how about learn about stuff

1:11:59.080 --> 1:12:01.479
<v Speaker 2>like that? To coach it, you gotta really love it,

1:12:01.600 --> 1:12:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Like there's I'm sorry, you're not gonna sit there and

1:12:04.080 --> 1:12:07.479
<v Speaker 2>worry about oh, like I like it tilted like a

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<v Speaker 2>on a this way or that way or this, you know,

1:12:10.080 --> 1:12:11.960
<v Speaker 2>depending on the win and this and then that, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna do all that kind of stuff if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not really into it. I think he's got the

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<v Speaker 2>passion for it. I think he brings great energy and

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that he's a good a good coach.

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<v Speaker 2>But you have now taken two specialists in the draft.

1:12:26.960 --> 1:12:30.840
<v Speaker 2>You have paid Joe Cordona, you have signed Chris Board,

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<v Speaker 2>you have all these cover jases right, all the guys

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<v Speaker 2>I just named, Like, does any other team carry six

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<v Speaker 2>guys into training camp that are really only gonna play

1:12:39.880 --> 1:12:43.519
<v Speaker 2>on special teams? I don't think that that's really that

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<v Speaker 2>common across the league. They definitely need to see results

1:12:47.680 --> 1:12:50.000
<v Speaker 2>on special teams this year because they've put a ton

1:12:50.040 --> 1:12:54.120
<v Speaker 2>of resources personnel wise into it. And we always retry

1:12:54.120 --> 1:12:57.120
<v Speaker 2>to read between the lines with Bill. He clearly thinks

1:12:57.160 --> 1:12:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that personnel was the issue last year on special team

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<v Speaker 2>because that's that's what they've done and they've completely revamped it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they got to be really good in that phase,

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<v Speaker 2>like not just better than last year and not you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have the disasters that they had last year on special teams.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to be like what they were a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to be winning games on special teams. They

1:13:16.400 --> 1:13:19.240
<v Speaker 1>should be blocking kicks and housing returns and things like

1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that that decide games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, flipping the field with the new punter, things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's better worse to saying for the entire roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I mentioned that you can go back and listen

1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:31.120
<v Speaker 2>to offense from last week. We did defense special teams

1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:33.800
<v Speaker 2>this week, so we covered all of the bases. A

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<v Speaker 2>couple of final things exciting that we'll get out to

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<v Speaker 2>OTA's next week, so we'll have OTAs from eleven to

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<v Speaker 2>one fifteen. I think is like the time that we

1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:46.640
<v Speaker 2>were told today is going to generally be it. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have Catch twenty two on Thursday afternoon. Two o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>might be pushing it. We might be a little bit

1:13:52.000 --> 1:13:55.040
<v Speaker 2>later than normal, but we'll do it right fresh off

1:13:55.040 --> 1:13:59.240
<v Speaker 2>of observing OTA, so you'll have a full OTA recap

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<v Speaker 2>from us, and we'll do that after every single OTA,

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<v Speaker 2>so that will be a lot of fun and you

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<v Speaker 2>can have all of a wu'll empty the notebook on

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<v Speaker 2>that one, like we'll give you all the everything that

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<v Speaker 2>happened and everything that went on at OTAs before we

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<v Speaker 2>get to OTA's though, alex I just dropped a perfectly

1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:19.200
<v Speaker 2>placed Taylor Swift reference that went right over your head.

1:14:19.240 --> 1:14:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Which one was the Wildest Dreams one, which is one

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<v Speaker 2>of her biggest songs. So I'm a little disappointed in you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like nothing I have seen, Like this might

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<v Speaker 2>be more than like a home.

1:14:32.760 --> 1:14:34.040
<v Speaker 1>AFC championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on right now for this concert?

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<v Speaker 1>This is wild.

1:14:38.280 --> 1:14:41.400
<v Speaker 2>The amount of people that were down here just to

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<v Speaker 2>buy merch on like a random Thursday morning. I pull

1:14:44.840 --> 1:14:47.920
<v Speaker 2>up to the stadium before avails this morning and there's

1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:50.640
<v Speaker 2>like a line out the freaking parking lot to just

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<v Speaker 2>buy a T shirt that says Taylor Swift on it.

1:14:54.040 --> 1:14:56.439
<v Speaker 2>Your face is telling me that you have no f's

1:14:56.479 --> 1:15:00.519
<v Speaker 2>about this whatsoever. But these three days are this is like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is one of the biggest events in

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<v Speaker 2>in Foxborough history. I think that's that's safe to say.

1:15:07.960 --> 1:15:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess. I mean it's cool. It's a lot

1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:14.880
<v Speaker 1>going on. He does not care. Yeah, give me one

1:15:14.920 --> 1:15:17.960
<v Speaker 1>tailor shift. You gotta have one? Are you ready for it?

1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Was the ESPN college football theme in twenty seventeen. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you had that answer. No, I like, I mean, like,

1:15:24.960 --> 1:15:26.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, we used to when I was in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Was when I think it's uh is it red? Is

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<v Speaker 1>the album with like twenty two in trouble? Yeah? Yeah,

1:15:32.200 --> 1:15:33.479
<v Speaker 1>so we used to blast that all the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stopped following her after that. Yeah, not like

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<v Speaker 1>still I'm obviously still aware of it, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>like my peak.

1:15:39.400 --> 1:15:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Red in nineteen eighty nine. We were

1:15:41.720 --> 1:15:45.000
<v Speaker 2>in college for both of those. Those were huge. Her

1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:48.479
<v Speaker 2>new stuff is still good, it's still it's still bops.

1:15:48.520 --> 1:15:50.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm a bops guy, like I like, I like the

1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:51.920
<v Speaker 2>pop stuff becaus.

1:15:51.680 --> 1:15:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Like she's got it's gotten to the point where it's

1:15:53.600 --> 1:15:56.080
<v Speaker 1>so much like the mythology of Taylor Stift and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where you lose me. So I don't have

1:15:57.479 --> 1:15:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the energy to follow. Well, here's the thing I was

1:15:59.439 --> 1:15:59.880
<v Speaker 1>talking to.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know this is recently, not not very recently,

1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:06.720
<v Speaker 2>but somewhat recently. My dad and my uncle on my

1:16:06.800 --> 1:16:10.840
<v Speaker 2>dad's side are real big into music, like you know, seventies. Uh,

1:16:11.200 --> 1:16:14.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, is like they're big decade, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>But they're really into music, and you know, they they

1:16:17.760 --> 1:16:22.559
<v Speaker 2>grew up and they had so many great acts, like

1:16:22.600 --> 1:16:26.240
<v Speaker 2>so many great all time bands, you know, Rolling Stones,

1:16:26.320 --> 1:16:29.200
<v Speaker 2>the Who's Zeppelin, like just go on down the line,

1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:32.599
<v Speaker 2>and even like single acts like Elton John and Bruce

1:16:32.680 --> 1:16:36.679
<v Speaker 2>and Billy Joel and Madonna and like all these and

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<v Speaker 2>when you really think about it in our generation, like

1:16:41.200 --> 1:16:43.240
<v Speaker 2>she's kind of it, like she's the only one that

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<v Speaker 2>touches that.

1:16:43.840 --> 1:16:46.880
<v Speaker 1>There like, aren't many acts that can fill up an

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<v Speaker 1>entire stadium for two three.

1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:52.479
<v Speaker 2>Nights, three straight nights right completely sold out.

1:16:52.520 --> 1:16:55.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's her Foo Fighters I think did back

1:16:55.680 --> 1:16:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to back nights sold out here kind of recently. Yeah,

1:16:58.760 --> 1:17:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Green Days up there. Green Days the one like rock

1:17:02.200 --> 1:17:04.240
<v Speaker 1>band that I can think of that has some of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right, it's just a lot of the bigger

1:17:07.200 --> 1:17:09.800
<v Speaker 1>acts now they couldn't sell our Chellette, not multiple nights,

1:17:09.840 --> 1:17:12.200
<v Speaker 1>so she could have done a fourth night and still

1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:13.760
<v Speaker 1>so oh yeah, like she could get down a week

1:17:13.800 --> 1:17:17.360
<v Speaker 1>she had done residency. The really interesting there's from a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. Somebody wrote this piece about how

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift is essentially our generation's Bruce Springsteen. There's the

1:17:23.520 --> 1:17:26.920
<v Speaker 1>same sort of culture around her and her music and

1:17:26.960 --> 1:17:28.479
<v Speaker 1>all of that. I always think of that one because

1:17:29.160 --> 1:17:31.680
<v Speaker 1>my parents are big Bruce people. That's been passed down

1:17:31.680 --> 1:17:33.760
<v Speaker 1>to me. I'm a big Bruce fan, and when I

1:17:33.840 --> 1:17:35.720
<v Speaker 1>look at what's going on here and all of that,

1:17:35.760 --> 1:17:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's different now because Bruce's fans are older, and

1:17:39.280 --> 1:17:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say his contents so watered down,

1:17:41.280 --> 1:17:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but he's done what ten times, if not one hundred

1:17:43.960 --> 1:17:46.200
<v Speaker 1>times the shows the Taylor's done. It's just kind of

1:17:46.320 --> 1:17:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it's been done. When I kind of look at all this,

1:17:49.040 --> 1:17:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I see it. I can kind of see that similarity.

1:17:51.720 --> 1:17:54.519
<v Speaker 1>So that being said, I have hiped for Bruce in August.

1:17:56.000 --> 1:17:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Get that that's gonna be on a Thursday, So I

1:17:58.520 --> 1:18:01.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we'll have a show that day, but.

1:18:01.360 --> 1:18:04.599
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be wild this whole concert. Like, don't if

1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:07.719
<v Speaker 2>you have no purpose to come down here Friday through Sunday,

1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:11.479
<v Speaker 2>do not come down here, like this is gonna be mayhem.

1:18:11.520 --> 1:18:13.160
<v Speaker 2>And I also will say, because I already said this

1:18:13.160 --> 1:18:15.559
<v Speaker 2>to you off the air, don't come down here trying

1:18:15.560 --> 1:18:18.639
<v Speaker 2>to tailgate and just like listen to the concert from outside,

1:18:18.760 --> 1:18:20.840
<v Speaker 2>because like there there's gonna be police. And still like

1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:23.439
<v Speaker 2>they're not letting that, they're not letting that happen, because

1:18:23.439 --> 1:18:26.640
<v Speaker 2>there's been other that's happened in other locations on this

1:18:26.720 --> 1:18:29.400
<v Speaker 2>tour that people have just posted up outside the venue

1:18:29.680 --> 1:18:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and listened to it from the parking lot, and that's

1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:34.280
<v Speaker 2>not gonna go down here, like they're gonna be really strict.

1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I grew up like really close to the stadium. Yeah,

1:18:37.439 --> 1:18:39.920
<v Speaker 1>like really close to the point where so two things.

1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:41.679
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to one of my old I don't

1:18:41.720 --> 1:18:43.479
<v Speaker 1>live there anymore, My parents don't live there anymore. But

1:18:43.520 --> 1:18:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to one of my old neighbors the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. We used to know Sunday's in the fall,

1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and then when there were certain concerts, you go out,

1:18:51.720 --> 1:18:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you get what you need to get done. On Saturday,

1:18:53.400 --> 1:18:55.759
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna stay it. Sunday is a day to stay

1:18:55.760 --> 1:18:58.280
<v Speaker 1>in and they are very like for the week. They're

1:18:58.320 --> 1:19:00.439
<v Speaker 1>like they went to the supermarket. They got stocked up.

1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I could be able to get to the sup

1:19:02.000 --> 1:19:03.960
<v Speaker 1>mark with all this. The other thing we used to

1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:06.040
<v Speaker 1>do that was very cool. You mentioned that people couldn't

1:19:06.560 --> 1:19:09.240
<v Speaker 1>go and can't come and just sit outside unch the

1:19:09.280 --> 1:19:13.840
<v Speaker 1>concert on the right night, I could sit in my backyard.

1:19:13.880 --> 1:19:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember Beyonce was here in Beyonce and Jay was

1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:19.639
<v Speaker 1>at that. Was that twenty eleven, twenty eleven or twenty twelve,

1:19:19.640 --> 1:19:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, was it that long ago? Yeah, I

1:19:21.600 --> 1:19:25.000
<v Speaker 1>was in high school and a couple of my buddies came.

1:19:25.080 --> 1:19:26.640
<v Speaker 1>It came over early in the day because didn't want

1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:29.080
<v Speaker 1>deal with traffic. Yeah, and we sat out in the backyard.

1:19:29.400 --> 1:19:31.679
<v Speaker 1>We had the girl going. We could hear the concert. Yeah,

1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and if if my parents still live there, that's what

1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I would go and listen from there. That was. That

1:19:36.560 --> 1:19:39.240
<v Speaker 1>was some fun memories. And I'll just since I'm telling

1:19:39.240 --> 1:19:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the story because it's a Patriots podcast, I'll bring it

1:19:41.080 --> 1:19:44.080
<v Speaker 1>back to this. I remember like in I remember for

1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:45.880
<v Speaker 1>some reason, I remember specifically in O seven. I could

1:19:45.880 --> 1:19:49.040
<v Speaker 1>probably do it other seasons. I would like listen to

1:19:49.040 --> 1:19:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the game. I have a TV in my room. Grown up,

1:19:50.680 --> 1:19:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd listened to the game. My parents didn't let me.

1:19:53.200 --> 1:19:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I listened to the game on the radio. Gil Santos, right,

1:19:56.600 --> 1:20:00.320
<v Speaker 1>but I would get spoilers because my window was a open.

1:20:00.479 --> 1:20:02.519
<v Speaker 1>You can hear I can hear the crowd go nuts,

1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and that'd be. But meanwhile, Gil's still setting up first

1:20:05.040 --> 1:20:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, all right, what's gonna happen here we go?

1:20:07.680 --> 1:20:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a good off season topic. And yeah,

1:20:10.280 --> 1:20:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go too long here. But I

1:20:13.640 --> 1:20:19.160
<v Speaker 2>think people like Gil Santos are just like that's such

1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:23.640
<v Speaker 2>a his voice. It will be in like the soundtrack

1:20:23.680 --> 1:20:25.360
<v Speaker 2>to I Will Never Forget Childhood.

1:20:25.600 --> 1:20:26.559
<v Speaker 1>I Will never forget it.

1:20:26.880 --> 1:20:31.960
<v Speaker 2>What a legend really quickly, Yeah, the Celtics, Like, I

1:20:31.960 --> 1:20:33.920
<v Speaker 2>gotta get something off my chest about the Celtics from

1:20:34.000 --> 1:20:34.559
<v Speaker 2>last night.

1:20:34.400 --> 1:20:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Because it's been killing me.

1:20:36.920 --> 1:20:39.240
<v Speaker 2>The main thing that I find so frustrating about the

1:20:39.280 --> 1:20:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Celtics team is really two things, but they're related. One,

1:20:45.520 --> 1:20:48.200
<v Speaker 2>they only win games one way. They really only win

1:20:48.320 --> 1:20:50.760
<v Speaker 2>games one way. And when I mean one way, I

1:20:50.800 --> 1:20:53.880
<v Speaker 2>mean like one style, right, Like, they only win they

1:20:53.880 --> 1:20:58.680
<v Speaker 2>can't win playing the other team's pace or playing the

1:20:58.720 --> 1:21:01.679
<v Speaker 2>other team's way. And if the other team, like last night,

1:21:01.720 --> 1:21:03.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, Spo I thought, had a good game plan

1:21:03.800 --> 1:21:06.160
<v Speaker 2>to kind of get them out of the drive and

1:21:06.280 --> 1:21:09.920
<v Speaker 2>kick three point barrage that they put on a Philly

1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:14.240
<v Speaker 2>in Game seven. If they don't play to that script,

1:21:15.240 --> 1:21:18.439
<v Speaker 2>they don't win. And I don't know if you this

1:21:18.479 --> 1:21:20.280
<v Speaker 2>is I think where all the skepticism and all the

1:21:20.320 --> 1:21:23.160
<v Speaker 2>distrust in this team comes from is because if you

1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:29.040
<v Speaker 2>can't win in you know, one, two, three, four different ways,

1:21:29.479 --> 1:21:31.640
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to win a title that way. Like

1:21:31.680 --> 1:21:34.720
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to win sixteen games in the postseason

1:21:35.080 --> 1:21:38.759
<v Speaker 2>when you need to win sixteen of them carbon copies

1:21:38.760 --> 1:21:43.040
<v Speaker 2>of each other. And even in football, like the Patriots out,

1:21:43.160 --> 1:21:45.800
<v Speaker 2>how many different types of games to the Dynasty era

1:21:45.960 --> 1:21:49.519
<v Speaker 2>Patriots win, you know, like right, defensive battles, offensive out,

1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:53.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, shootouts, like middle grounds, like they just they

1:21:53.160 --> 1:21:55.400
<v Speaker 2>won them in so many different ways. The Celtics team

1:21:55.439 --> 1:21:59.559
<v Speaker 2>wins one way, it's Missoula ball, it's forty threes, it's

1:21:59.680 --> 1:22:02.200
<v Speaker 2>drive and kick, it's it's the same thing. It's one

1:22:02.240 --> 1:22:04.799
<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty points like that. That's how this team wins.

1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:06.599
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's where a lot of the distress

1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:11.960
<v Speaker 2>comes from. The second thing, that third quarter, Like you

1:22:12.000 --> 1:22:15.320
<v Speaker 2>can't have that third quarter. You can't be you can't

1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:21.439
<v Speaker 2>win championships with giving up forty six point quarters like that, right,

1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:23.800
<v Speaker 2>And so that that's where it all comes from. But

1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:27.479
<v Speaker 2>with all that said, I still like them in the series.

1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I still like them to win it all. Like I

1:22:30.120 --> 1:22:31.880
<v Speaker 2>still think that it doesn't matter, Like I still think

1:22:31.920 --> 1:22:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that they're good enough there it might not matter, but man,

1:22:36.000 --> 1:22:36.599
<v Speaker 2>watching them.

1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:39.040
<v Speaker 1>As a roller coaster, it is a roller coaster, been

1:22:39.040 --> 1:22:40.560
<v Speaker 1>a thing. They've been a bad third quarter team in

1:22:40.600 --> 1:22:42.679
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs since last year. It's the you know, they've

1:22:42.680 --> 1:22:43.760
<v Speaker 1>been a negative team and.

1:22:43.800 --> 1:22:47.880
<v Speaker 2>They're so Jacqueline Hyde and it's it's it's it's tired.

1:22:48.200 --> 1:22:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Though I'm tired, here's what I'll say about it. And yeah,

1:22:50.520 --> 1:22:51.880
<v Speaker 2>they need to be better in the third quarter, and

1:22:51.880 --> 1:22:55.599
<v Speaker 2>they still certainly can win the series. But I told

1:22:55.600 --> 1:22:57.400
<v Speaker 2>people not to sleep on this Miami Heat team.

1:22:57.400 --> 1:22:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I told people, we're not sleep it's such a people

1:22:59.360 --> 1:23:02.120
<v Speaker 1>are sleep I think a lot of people saw them

1:23:02.120 --> 1:23:05.200
<v Speaker 1>as an eight seed. No, they don't think Jimmy Butler

1:23:05.280 --> 1:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>is a superstar. Jimmy Butler is a superstar, but a

1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:09.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't think so. And I think the

1:23:09.680 --> 1:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>T and T bro oh, I mean, that's ridiculous. But

1:23:12.000 --> 1:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the T and T broadcast, I think said it well

1:23:13.760 --> 1:23:17.719
<v Speaker 1>at halftime. If you were to draft the two teams

1:23:17.760 --> 1:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>like old school on a playground, like here's these twenty

1:23:21.080 --> 1:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>four guy mass draft the series, Felgri and Mas draft.

1:23:24.240 --> 1:23:28.320
<v Speaker 2>The series, Jimmy Butler might be the number one guy drafted,

1:23:28.720 --> 1:23:30.640
<v Speaker 2>might be. I think him and Jason Tatum both have

1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:34.639
<v Speaker 2>a case. And bam Adebaio certainly gets drafted early. Yeah,

1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:37.720
<v Speaker 2>other than like how many straight Celtics do you get?

1:23:37.720 --> 1:23:41.920
<v Speaker 1>After that? The different but the Heat. They they play

1:23:42.040 --> 1:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>so far above their talent level because the motor is

1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:45.120
<v Speaker 1>just insane.

1:23:45.400 --> 1:23:47.120
<v Speaker 2>That that was one thing that I was reminded of

1:23:47.200 --> 1:23:49.080
<v Speaker 2>last night because the Celticants were up nine at the

1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>half and they just kept coming, man right, and they're

1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:54.719
<v Speaker 2>like they just put their head down and they keep coming.

1:23:54.840 --> 1:23:57.160
<v Speaker 1>In that spot, the Sixers would have quit. Yeah, the

1:23:57.240 --> 1:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Heat actually played better when you're behind. It's terrible, like

1:24:00.280 --> 1:24:03.040
<v Speaker 1>so infuriating to watch the Heat play. Yeah, they are.

1:24:03.280 --> 1:24:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Don't sleep on them. I'm not sleeping on them.

1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:07.640
<v Speaker 2>On them, I would love to root for them like

1:24:07.640 --> 1:24:10.160
<v Speaker 2>they're they're a perfect basketball team. I will root for

1:24:10.200 --> 1:24:12.160
<v Speaker 2>them in the finals and they're a perfect beast.

1:24:12.240 --> 1:24:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that. I don't root for teams like that.

1:24:14.520 --> 1:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Can't do it.

1:24:15.800 --> 1:24:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna root against the Lakers.

1:24:17.400 --> 1:24:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, I root against teams, but like people ask me, like, oh, like, like,

1:24:22.000 --> 1:24:24.439
<v Speaker 2>who are you rooting for in the hockey playoffs with

1:24:24.479 --> 1:24:25.160
<v Speaker 2>the Ruins out?

1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Nobody, no one, everybody loses Vegas, just armageddon. Bruce Cassidy,

1:24:31.080 --> 1:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll be back next week, and hopefully we're

1:24:35.000 --> 1:24:37.360
<v Speaker 1>back to talk about the Celtics winning that series, or

1:24:37.360 --> 1:24:39.200
<v Speaker 1>at least being ahead in this yeriares or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I mentioned, we'll be back and we'll recap

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<v Speaker 1>o ta's first o TA practice next Thursday. We're looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to it until then, signing off for Alex Bartha'm

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Lazar. Thanks for listening to everybody, and we'll see

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