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Speaker 1: Oh, good time. Steve Tasker done, texs Dome Tex down

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Speaker 1: to down time. Welcome to the show, Welcome to Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Live from One Bill Drive. Good afternoon, everybody,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our one Buffalo studio here

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Speaker 1: for the next three hours. Three hours. That's what we

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Speaker 1: got sea. We are gonna be okay for three hours here,

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Speaker 1: yea man, because here's the deal. We get done with

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Speaker 1: the show and we're off for a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: We get two days off. The bye week is here.

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Speaker 1: The building is virtually empty here, and One Bill's Drive

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Speaker 1: ghost It is a ghost town. But we're here to

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Speaker 1: do the show with our crew, our wonderful crew here

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Speaker 1: for the next three hours, and then we're off Thursday

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Speaker 1: and Friday. Our next show after today will be Monday.

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Speaker 1: So we got a lot to cover, a lot of

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Speaker 1: ground to cover today, a lot to talk about a

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Speaker 1: little bit of Bills news, and a lot of interaction

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Speaker 1: with you coming up on the show. But Steve came

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Speaker 1: in today, I'll fired up about the Sabers. He went

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Speaker 1: to the Sabers game with your son last night and

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Speaker 1: loved it. Right two one. It was the most anxiety

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Speaker 1: filled last forty minutes of a high game I ever watched.

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Speaker 1: We got up two oh, and they came back and

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Speaker 1: literally that we scored, and I go, oh, wow, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: We got a two goal lead. We're gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have a hard time getting my sons said,

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Speaker 1: he didn't even get the sentence out. He said, well,

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Speaker 1: this team can score two goals in like thirty second

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Speaker 1: and he's, you know, say, thirty seconds before he got

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds out. That was roofed in our own goal

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Speaker 1: and they were back in at two to one. So

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Speaker 1: I knew, you know, it was just we were hanging

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Speaker 1: on pins and needles, hanging on by a thread throughout

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Speaker 1: the last forty minutes of that game, right down to

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Speaker 1: the last doink off the pipe. It was crazy. It

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Speaker 1: was great, good time. In fact, against Togeters left me

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Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup ring that they made for the saves.

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Speaker 1: What is now? They beat they won the they beat

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Speaker 1: one of the great It's just tape. It's it's gotta

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Speaker 1: I think it's got a Canadian It's got a Canadian

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Speaker 1: nickel aped on the top. What are supposed to do

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Speaker 1: with that? It's a Stanley Cup ring Man gonna win

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Speaker 1: one now that we've beat in them, one of the

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Speaker 1: top teams in the in the conference in in November. Listen,

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Speaker 1: big win. It's a big win, very nice for our guys.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing this amazed me most. When you recounted

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Speaker 1: most was how quickly you made it from your home

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Speaker 1: How do thirty minutes? Thirty minute? It's a twenty talk,

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Speaker 1: it's normal traffic to you in your seats. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was like normal track. It's like a twenty five

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Speaker 1: by a Buffalo guy who appreciates what we have for

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Speaker 1: I would imagine there are not too many NHL or

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Speaker 1: like like the Bills Mafia has done. They buy them,

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Speaker 1: So there's some of that going on too. So Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: one and their last five home games, so the home

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Speaker 1: games have been good for them lately. In the last

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Speaker 1: vote for your favorite players to go to the twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen Pro Bowl. The game itself Sunday, January twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Players for the game determined by a consensus vote of fans,

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Speaker 1: players and coaches. Each group's vote counts one third towards

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Speaker 1: determining the eight eight players will be selected. For the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, and the players and coaches will vote by Friday,

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Speaker 1: December fourteenth. You can vote now until December thirteenth. We

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Speaker 1: got thinking about it yesterday. As difficult as this Bill

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Speaker 1: season has been, it gets your attention when you look

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Speaker 1: up and see either in the number one defense in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And we want to know from you on

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl balloting in the underway.

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Speaker 1: This our Twitter poll. Which Buffalo Bill's player would you

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Speaker 1: vote for if you had only choose one to make

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? You can participate in our Twitter poll.

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Speaker 1: You can give us a call eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty or two three at one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: by fifty two five fifty, Which Bill's player would you

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Speaker 1: vote for to make the Pro Bowl? On Twitter? We've

445
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 1: already got about four or fifty votes in turn Avious

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Speaker 1: White as a big lead. Fifty five percent of you

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Speaker 1: on Twitter say turn Avius would be your vote for

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Nineteen percent say the kicker the AFC

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Speaker 1: Special Teamer of the Week Stephen House got eighteen percent,

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Speaker 1: say Jerry Hughes eight percent. Have somebody else in mind?

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Fall nine's open eight

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Speaker 1: O three oh five fifty Twell three one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight by fifty two fifty. I think Turdevious White is

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Speaker 1: the odds on choice. I hope he makes it. I

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Speaker 1: hope I think he should. I think he has a

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Speaker 1: lot of respect from coaches and players around the league

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Speaker 1: that accounts for two thirds of the vote, and maybe

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Speaker 1: not as much respect or even notoriety among fans, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean average NFL fan, You say Tredevious White. Do

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Speaker 1: they know that he plays for the Buffalo Bills? Do

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Speaker 1: they know that he's essentially a lockdown corner now and

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Speaker 1: the teams barely throw his way anymore? I think that

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Speaker 1: would work against him. But the coaches vote and the

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Speaker 1: players vote, I think will go decidedly for Turdavious White,

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Speaker 1: and that would be where my vote would go to.

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Speaker 1: Turdavius would be my number one choice for a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl performer on the Buffalo Bills roster? What about USTe?

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Speaker 1: I agree, and I think it'll show up in the

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Speaker 1: player coach vote. Fans not so much. How many certainly

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Speaker 1: Bills fans are going to vote for Turdavious White. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the thing that he has going

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Speaker 1: for him the most is two things. One he's on

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Speaker 1: the number one defense in the league, and two he

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Speaker 1: had a sational year last year as well. And what

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Speaker 1: happens in this league is that you have this great

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Speaker 1: year and it's like is he good or is he one?

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Speaker 1: And he got to do it again and then they go, wow,

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Speaker 1: he is that good and they send you the second year.

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Speaker 1: There's no question Turdavious White is a top flight, elite

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Speaker 1: corner in the league. And I'm sure that the coaches

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Speaker 1: and players are going to reward him by voting for him.

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Speaker 1: That that doesn't mean I think he's automatically into the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, but certainly he's that caliber player. Do you

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Speaker 1: think and I do think this, so I'll I'll phrase

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Speaker 1: the question this way. The Bills are gonna have trouble

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Speaker 1: getting guys in the Pro Bowl because of their record, right,

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Speaker 1: because of their record, and because of many of their

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00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: losses have been so one one sided, right, so lopsided

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I think I think it's a factor.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be a factor for the fans,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. For the fans outside of Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo fans will know they've got some defensive players that

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Speaker 1: certainly deserve to be there, and I think the coaches

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Speaker 1: and players will know as well. But that you know,

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Speaker 1: but fans around the country will be dismissive of anything

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Speaker 1: that Bills do on a national level. Yeah, what do

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Speaker 1: you think? Who would you vote for for the Bills

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Speaker 1: for the Pro Bowl. You've got a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: to do it. Voting is open. Now, give us a

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Speaker 1: call and discuss. We got a call here from Bob

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Bob, go ahead, you're on the air. Hey,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, John Hi. I would say Matt Milano would

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Speaker 1: be my choice. I look at him as like Charlie Hustle,

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Speaker 1: a plan linebacker gives at all. There's nothing on the field.

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Speaker 1: I know that pre seasons didn't stop through a robust kickoff,

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Speaker 1: But if you look what he's done in the body

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Speaker 1: of work that he's been in there, in the games

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Speaker 1: that I've seen, and listening to the accounts, by the

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Speaker 1: good accuracy of yourself others within the organization, I'd have

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Speaker 1: to say Matt Milano would be my choice. Good choice Milano,

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Speaker 1: you know, sharing the team lead with two interceptions. He's

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Speaker 1: made some impactful plays. He's done a good I mean,

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Speaker 1: he had a great game against Minnesota. And it was

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Speaker 1: a while ago now, way back in Week three, but

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Speaker 1: Steve and I were both participating in a project for

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Speaker 1: the web site that forced us to look back a

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Speaker 1: little bit as far as some of the outstanding performers. Right, Steve,

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Speaker 1: you and I both looking at that. Let me find

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Speaker 1: my response, because here it is on Milano. I wrote this,

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Speaker 1: Milano against Minnesota eight tackles, one sack, one interception, one

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Speaker 1: funnel recovery. I mean they held Minnesota to just fourteen

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Speaker 1: rushing yards. Milano against Minnesota was an eye opener for me.

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Speaker 1: And does he have the sort of national and NFL

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Speaker 1: notoriety that might get him to the Pro Bowl? I

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Speaker 1: think that's doubtful, but I think he's had a couple

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Speaker 1: of games, including last Sunday against the Jets, that would

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Speaker 1: have to get people's attention. I think he might get

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Speaker 1: some consideration for Pro Bowl. What do you think? I do?

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Speaker 1: And I think also the fact that Milano seems to

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Speaker 1: make splash plays that catches the eye of a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, even the teams that he played against their

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Speaker 1: fan bases. He did some things against the Patriots. He

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Speaker 1: obviously had the good game this last week against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: He had a great game against Minnesota. So the plays

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Speaker 1: that he makes seem like fumble recoveries, forced fumbles, interceptions

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Speaker 1: and sacks. All of those things go into the consciousness

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Speaker 1: of people who are voting and they tend to expand

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Speaker 1: on those and thing, Well, that guy's really playing and

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Speaker 1: when he has been productive, no question about it. And

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Speaker 1: so I think, yeah, Milan is a guy that catches

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Speaker 1: the eye of a lot of people and has been

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Speaker 1: really productive this year. So yeah, that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: good vote. I think. All right, what do you think

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Speaker 1: which Bills player would you vote for to make the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. We'll get this discussion going as we move

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Speaker 1: through the show today. Most of them are going to

547
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Speaker 1: be on defense. We acknowledge that, but we'll read your

548
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: tweets on the tweet sheet and take your calls off

549
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: the air. Two on the air rather, which Bills players

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Speaker 1: do you think merit consideration for the Pro Bowl. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break here and we come back. Bill

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Speaker 1: Paulian Hall of fame, former general manager for the Bills,

553
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: talking about some Bills issues and some other NFL issues

554
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Speaker 1: that's coming up next. John Murphy's team Tasker One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills

556
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Speaker 1: Radio five from One Mile Drive. Bye week here and

557
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo for the Buffalo Bills players off until next week.

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker, this is our last show of

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Speaker 1: the week. Joining us right now on the subway, fresh take, hotline,

560
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: good friend of ours, good friend of the show. Happy

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Speaker 1: to have Hall of Famer Bill Pauli and on the

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Speaker 1: line with us. High Bill. It's John Murphy and Steve

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Speaker 1: task our prey in Buffalo. Thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, it's my pleasure. Guys. How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: We're doing great. We kind of we wanted to have

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Speaker 1: you on and see if you had been able to

567
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: keep track of what was going on up here in Buffalo.

568
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: We've got a little bit of both ends of the

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Speaker 1: spectrum going. We've got the number one defense in the

570
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Speaker 1: National Football League and an offense that's struggling. What have

571
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Speaker 1: you been able to watch any of the Buffalo games

572
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: and keep track of the franchise like that? Yeah, I

573
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: sure I have. I think you know, obviously, the idea

574
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Speaker 1: that the defense is number one is not a mirage.

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Speaker 1: It's a starn good defense. And it's exceptionally well coached

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00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: UM and of course the offensive issues UM derived from

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00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: both the quarterback position and offensive line issues. And and

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Speaker 1: and you know, basically not a plus or of skilled people,

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Speaker 1: but that'll come. You can your own Rome wasn't built

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Speaker 1: in a day. And as you remember, Steve, as we

581
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: went through the growth process, we weren't we weren't a

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Speaker 1: fourth time super Bowl team right off the bat. It

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00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: takes a while, but there's nothing but good things happening.

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Speaker 1: From from my perspective, Have you had a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk with anybody like Sean McDermot, Brandon Bean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you have a relationship with those guys? Have you

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00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: ever you reached out to that. Yeah, I do, and

588
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: I reach out every once in a while and talked

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00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: to Sean recently, just wanted to congratulate him on on

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00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: how things were going. And you know, just from just

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00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: one man's perspective, just saying, hey, things are headed in

592
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: the right direction. Don't be discouraged, don't don't not that

593
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: he ever is, but uh, you know, just just keep working.

594
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: You're on the right path. And to me, that's pretty obvious.

595
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: The record doesn't always indicate what's been going on. And

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00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: if you look at how the team played last week,

597
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: look at how they played against New England, I mean

598
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: they're they're really playing hard, they're playing smart. Um. They

599
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: just need to get some playmakers on the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. You were here for New England, right,

601
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Speaker 1: you must have seen, yeah, you must see stuff in

602
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: that game that you liked. Though. The way the Bills

603
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: played the Patriots a couple of weeks ago, oh you bet, yeah.

604
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean they played them almost on defense every bit

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00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: as well as Tennessee played them. But they weren't able

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Speaker 1: to generate enough offense to You know, when you're you're

607
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: playing against Brady and company, you have to be able

608
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: to score. You have to. Your offense has to keep

609
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: the pressure on them as well as your defense bottling

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00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: them up, which is no easy fat And they just

611
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: weren't able to score enough. But that'll come, I mean

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Speaker 1: you have to worm wasn't built in a day that

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00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: they inherited this. Brandon and Sean inherited a lot of

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00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: a lot of dead money and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that that didn't perform to the contracts that they had,

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00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: and they had to make changes and they did. That's

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00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: the hard part. And now, you know, let's hope the

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00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: young quarterback continues to develop and you're fill in some

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Speaker 1: spots on the offensive line and a little more depth

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Speaker 1: in the offensive backfield and get some playmakers at receiver,

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Speaker 1: and pretty soon things are really looking up. Yeah. I

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00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: was thinking about team building the other day, Bill, in

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Speaker 1: relation to the Bills, and of course you've done it

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Speaker 1: at a Hall of Fame level for more than a

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00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: couple of teams in the league. The Bills have built

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00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: their defense successfully with draft picks and free agents, and

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Speaker 1: as we said, number one in the league right now,

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Speaker 1: can a defensive coach like Sean McDermott do the same offense?

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Speaker 1: Can he? I mean, if they apply the same principles

630
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Speaker 1: and the same you know, ideas they have and building

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Speaker 1: that defense to getting offensive players. Not that there's any

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00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: guarantees here, but could they be successful building offense as well?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, don't forget when Mark first came,

634
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: everybody said, well, how can he be successful? He's a

635
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: special teams coming. Yeah, Well, we had the guy your partner.

636
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: There was a big part of making us the special

637
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: teams junior in the NFL. But we were pretty good

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00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: on offensive defense too. If you if you're if you

639
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: can coach, you can coach, and if you can build teams,

640
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: you can build teams, and Sean can do both. Um,

641
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: he's made, in my view, excellent additions and excellent subtractions.

642
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: He's gotten the kinds of people that that that play

643
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: as hard as this group does on a consistent basis,

644
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: and the offensive side of it will come. It's it's,

645
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: it's it's usually the last thing that comes because it's

646
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: triggered by the quarterback. And then secondly, Um, you do

647
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: have to have some people around him too, and the

648
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: receiving corps is not as deep and not as explosive

649
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: as you'd like. I wonder your thoughts on Josh Allen

650
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: A lot of us here are looking forward to him

651
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: getting back in the lineup, maybe as soon as next

652
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: week after the buy, and moving forward with him. What

653
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: could we look for from him? He started five, If

654
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: he plays out the rest of the season, I left

655
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: six more starts. What should Bills fans look for for

656
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: signs of progress from Josh Allenville, Well, you're looking for

657
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: signs of progress exactly that getting better in terms of

658
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: operating the offense, getting better in terms of making decisions

659
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: where to go with the football, getting better in terms

660
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: of taking care of himself when he's running with the football. Unfortunately,

661
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: he's learned the lesson in the National Football League that

662
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't college. You can't run over guys

663
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: any longer. You've got to take care of yourself and

664
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: be smart when you run the football, Slide, get out

665
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: of harm's way. The all of that, I think will come,

666
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: and then it'll be a little while for him to

667
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: develop chemistry with the receivers. That's going to take another

668
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: off season, so I wouldn't worry about that too much.

669
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: But as long as the arrow is up in terms

670
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: of recognizing defenses, taking care of himself, taking care of

671
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: the football, then you know he'll have benefited greatly from

672
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: what experience he has had this year, including overcoming injury.

673
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: That's all part of the process too. So you've been

674
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: keeping yourself busy with the AAFL. How is the development

675
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: of the new league going. I know he's going to

676
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: be a very very busy offseason for well, an NFL

677
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: offseason at least for you coming up in February. Yeah,

678
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm at our quarterback camp right now. We've got all

679
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks under contract here in San Antonio working out

680
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: letting the coaches all see him and get an idea

681
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: of what we got. So and it's running like clockwork.

682
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm amazed. Our staff did a phenomenal job putting this

683
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: all together. UM, but it was great to walk into

684
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: a stadium today and see football players and this is

685
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: this is the first step down the road and it's

686
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: fun and exciting. February ninth is the kickoff, I believe

687
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: for the Alliance bill. How do you allocate those players

688
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: to the various teams? Well, they're allocated three ways. Really.

689
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: The first is where they played college football, so that

690
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: UH in theory anyway, they're familiar with the UH, the

691
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: fans are familiar with the players. The second is where

692
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: they played pro football. So for example, UM, Buffalo players

693
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: would be allocated to a certain team in the league

694
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: and UH in our league. And then and then the

695
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: third would be via a rights list like the Canadian League.

696
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: If for players unallocated by a college or unallocated by

697
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: the NFL of the CFL, then you can put them

698
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: on a rights list on a first come, first served basis.

699
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: We've signed into over six hundred and fifty players right now,

700
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: and and and we've had nary a slip up with

701
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: that system. That's worked very well. And judging from what

702
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: I can see on the field thus far, um, the

703
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: talents pretty evenly distributed around the league. We'll have our

704
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: quarterback draft, UM. Everybody else is allocated, but the quarterbacks

705
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: will be drafted. Will have that on the twenty sixth

706
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: of November, twenty seventh of November. Actually, who's the league

707
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: open to It is open to anybody as long as

708
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: you're eligible to play pro football. As long as you

709
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: have no longer have collegiate eligibility, UM, then you can

710
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: come and try out, and we're happy to give you

711
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: an opportunity. Is there is there a fear or anything

712
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: that you'll have young players coming out of high school

713
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, UM signed with an you know, sign with

714
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: an agent and you know just turned professional. No, no,

715
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: we won't take those players. Essentially, our eligibility rules are

716
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: the same as the NFL. You have to be twenty

717
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: years of age, you have to have had three years

718
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: of collegiate three years out of high school. If you

719
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: have collegiate eligibility remaining, you're not eligible. Essentially the same

720
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: as the NFL. We won't take kids out of high

721
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: school or even take kids to drop out of college.

722
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: That's not what we're in business to do. We have

723
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: another question for you about the Alliance. We're talking about

724
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 1: it with our career today and I guess wondering about

725
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: the mission statement. Do you view the Alliance as a

726
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: as a somewhat of a competitor to NFL football or

727
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: is the goal I mean, what's the mission statement? Is

728
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: it development? Is that a? Yes? Absolutely, the vall development

729
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: and entertainment. But we are absolutely not a competitor to

730
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. If anything, we want to be augment the

731
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: NFL and we want to be a friend to the NFL.

732
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: That's our purpose is to hopefully provide a good, solid

733
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: football entertainment for people in our markets and then provide

734
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: players the opportunity to go to the NFL. That's why

735
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: we have a NFL out in every one of our contracts.

736
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: If a player who's working out here today, for example,

737
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: gets a call to go up to the NFL, you

738
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: can go with our seven blessing. We want we want

739
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: to develop players for the NFL. Thank he's not competing

740
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: with them. I just want to let our listeners know

741
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: that the Bill talked about the quarterback Draft. It is

742
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: November twenty seventh, It is eight pm on CBS Sports Network.

743
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: He'll be televise's live right the quarterback Draft in a

744
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, two weeks, two weeks away. Yeah, how

745
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: many teams? How many players on the roster? How many

746
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: total players are going to be in the league at

747
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: this point? Well, right now, we'll have seventy five per team.

748
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: There are there are eight teams, seventy five per team

749
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: going to training camp, and we'll cut to fifty three.

750
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: We'll have forty two, forty three and one active on game,

751
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: the third the one being a third quarterback, uh, and

752
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: then fifty three active players. So essentially the same as

753
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. Hey, Bill, I have one more question for

754
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: you and this deal, maybe back to the NFL from

755
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: your role as an analyst at ESPN, Just your thoughts

756
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: on Leabe on Bell this week and maybe what what

757
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: he thinks he accomplished by holding out the entire year

758
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: now and what will happen next for him in your estimation, Well,

759
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: there's there's three things that can happen next. The first

760
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: is that um that they'll probably be well, the first

761
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: is that that he could sign long term with Pittsburgh.

762
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: That's I wouldn't put the odds of that, you know,

763
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: very high, because if they haven't reached agreement now, they won't.

764
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: It's not likely they'll do it in January, but he

765
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: theoretically could. Secondly, the Steelers could put the franchise i'm sorry,

766
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: the transition tag on him and do a sign and trade.

767
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: That's possible. Third, and I think this may happen. Pittsburgh

768
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: may argue because he sat the whole season out that

769
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: his contract tolls, and that they could put the franchise

770
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: tag on him again next year. That would bring about

771
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: a legal preceding a litigation. I'm sure the union would

772
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: challenge that, and I'm not sure who would win in

773
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: that situation. That's kind of uncharted waters. And fourth is

774
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh could walk away and say, hey, you're entirely free,

775
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: go ahead seek your fortune wherever. One of those four

776
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: things is going to happen, And we'll have to wait

777
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: until February to find out. Did Bell make a giant

778
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: miscalculation here? Do you think Bill will know John based

779
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: on what his market value is come next March? If,

780
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: in fact, he's free next March. That assumes obviously that

781
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: he would be free. Then we'll find out what his

782
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: market value is as a post to what Pittsburgh may

783
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: have had on the table for him. Only time will

784
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: tell whether whether he made the right decision or not. Now,

785
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: one of the things that's on the table and came

786
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: out during the lead up to the four o'clock deadline yesterday,

787
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: was the fact that, and I think it, maybe you

788
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: can correct me, is a transition tag or maybe if

789
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: they if they franchise tag him again, they're looking at

790
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: an enormous jump in what the number would be. This

791
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: year was fourteen and a half million, and that if

792
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: they do it again, it turns into like a twenty

793
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: five million dollar paycheck. How does that want? Well, you're

794
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: conflating the two the two tags, and this is boring

795
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: as can be. But let me see if I can

796
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: sort it out. On the one hand, if the contract tolls,

797
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: meaning that this year didn't count essentially toward free agency,

798
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: right and because he didn't come in, then then they

799
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: would franchise at the quarterback number, which is twenty five

800
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: million dollars or so that's too high. Probably the other alternatives,

801
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: whether the contract tolls or does not toll, is that

802
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: they could put the transition tag on him, which is

803
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: considerably lower, and then they would have the right to

804
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: match any offer that he got from any other team

805
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: in the league. But with the transition tag, he could

806
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: go and seek an offer. If they chose to match,

807
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: then they could effectively match and trade. And if they do,

808
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: what are the draft picks involved? They get compensation if

809
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: they refuse to match. If they refuse to match, No,

810
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: the transition tag doesn't carry compensation with it. No, okay, Hey, Bill,

811
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: thanks for sorting through all these issues with us, and

812
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: thanks for keeping an eye in the Bills. Seriously, you're

813
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: invaluable resource for us and we appreciate you spend a

814
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: few minutes with us here today. Thanks well, I'm glad

815
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: to do it, and you know I'm pulling for the Bills.

816
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they and I'm convinced that that that

817
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: this is gonna this is the right path and we

818
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: got the right people in charge, and just I know

819
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: it's tough for the fans to be patient, but if

820
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: you do, the rewards I believe are gonna come. Can't wait.

821
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Thank you Bill, soon, I hope all right, buddy, take care.

822
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: Bill Polly in the longtime Bills general manager, Pro Football

823
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame now ESPN, NFL analyst on the Subway

824
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: Fresh Jake Hline with us presented by Subway Restaurant's proud

825
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: to be locally owned and operating. It's the guy's not

826
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: even working as an executive and he's like, he explained

827
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: all that right down to the letter. He goes. Andy

828
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: warns it's gonna be boring. Plus he also said, is

829
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: that if this happens, it's going to be a legal proceeding.

830
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: They all it's amazing that, you know, he keeps track

831
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: of that, and it's nice to know too that he

832
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: isn't you know, calls every once in a while. He

833
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: can encourage that. Brandon Bean, Sean mc dermott and likes

834
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: where this team is headed. Sometimes when you when you're

835
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: like you and me, Murphen, we talk about it all

836
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: day every day, it's hard to take a step back

837
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: and see the big picture once more. Yeah, and Bills

838
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: paying attention. I mean, he was here for the Patriots game.

839
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: I saw him in an earlier Bills game this year.

840
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: You saw him last week in Green Bay. He was

841
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: in Green Bay working the radio gig four ESPN, and

842
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: I had a chance to chit chat with him a

843
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: little bit before the game and after the game, and

844
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: it's always great to see Yep. Good to hear from

845
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: him too. We thank Bill Polian for joining us today

846
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: on the show. We see another Hall of Famer coming up.

847
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: But a couple of minutes, Thurman Thomas going to join

848
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: us on the line. Greg co Sell joins us at too.

849
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: We're talking Bills football here today, but we want to

850
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: know from you Pro Bowl which Buffalo Bills would you

851
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: select for Pro Bowl appearance this year? Give us a call.

852
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: We got phone lines open eight oh three oh five

853
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight

854
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: by fifty two five fifty, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, one

855
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. And this is Buffalo

856
00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: Bills Radio one Goals Live from One Goals Drive, Jove Murphy,

857
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: Steve Tansker just wrapped up with Bill Polly in a

858
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: moment ago. We're coming to you live from One Bills Drive.

859
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl owning underway from now until December thirteenth. You

860
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: want to hear from you which Bills player would you

861
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: vote for? To make the Pro Bowl. You like, who

862
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: do you got? There's um how we got a list

863
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: of three on our Twitter page and turd Avious White

864
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: is the leader of fifty five percent of you say

865
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: turd Avius would be your selection for a Bill's Pro

866
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: Bowl Performer twenty percent, stage Stephen Houshke eighteen percent, say

867
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: Jerry Hugh seven percent. If somebody else what he got

868
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: in the tweet seat their buddy team Anny twenty two. Well,

869
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: you'd think the number one D in the league that

870
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: at least three or four guys will make the Pro Bowl.

871
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: It's no secret that Tray leads the list. He's been

872
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: in the shutdown cornerback all year, going against every team's

873
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: top guys. Hughes and Lorenzo should also be in as well.

874
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Tim Donovan chimes in, one Man Gang ninety seven. That's

875
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander for sure. He's the heart and soul of

876
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: this team, along with Kyle Williams, Matt Milano. Again, if

877
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: there's anyone on this team that's having a Pro Bowl year,

878
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: it's him. In my opinion, a lot of people have

879
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: brought Matt Maloney. He didn't even make the list that

880
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: we put out, not that our list is obviously there's

881
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: fifty other guys that you can list in other than

882
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: the three we did discussion. But Matt Milano is one

883
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: of those guys that has made some splash plays. And

884
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: I get that. This the interception, and I haven't heard

885
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: anybody mentioned this the interception he got Milano got against

886
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: the Jets down the sidelines in a deep throw. I

887
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: haven't heard anybody say anything about Jerry Hughes. Did you

888
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: see what happened on that play? The front? Jerry Hughes

889
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: absolutely makes the left tackle whip and I'm he's running

890
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: right down Josh McCown's grill. I mean he is on him.

891
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: I mean it was a great pass rush that he

892
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: didn't get any credit for because you know, count had

893
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: to throw the ball up for grabs because Jerry Hughes

894
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: was breathing right down as grill and that really led

895
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: to the bad throw the Milano picked off. Jerry Hughes

896
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: was I mean, the move he put on the left

897
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: tackle of the Jets was exquisite. I mean it was

898
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: great and it led to Milano's interception. Milano down the field.

899
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: Good ball controls, and I mean Jerry Hughes literally almost

900
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: could not have sprinted to the quarterback faster than he

901
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: got there. You know, um going into last week and

902
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: I haven't updated it looked at it this week because

903
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: we didn't have a game this week. Going into the

904
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: last week, the folks at Pro Football Focus listed Jerry

905
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: Hughes as the third most effective pass rusher in the

906
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: league in terms of quarterback pressures, third in the league,

907
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: third in the league. He was behind the guys you

908
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: might expect. I think I got Khalil Macum. No, it

909
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: wasn't Khalil. It was d Ford was number two. I

910
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: forget it was number one. D fourth from Kansas City

911
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: was number two. Maybe it was Khalil. Let me look

912
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: that up. But pretty amazing, I think when you think

913
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: about what and again, this is not a team that

914
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: has not had much success this year, which is hard

915
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: to get attention when you haven't had much success to

916
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: when it wins. It's interesting too. The Bills defense is

917
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: I think it's it's way better than it's even advertised

918
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: as the number one defense. It's there's only five teams

919
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: that have had more plays to face than the Bills defense,

920
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: which means the Bills have played more defense than anybody,

921
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: which means they can give up more yards because the

922
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: other teams have more opportunities, any more big plays, all

923
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: of that, you just you know, give up more plays,

924
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: and they're the number one team in the league. All

925
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: the rest of those teams are ranked in the bottom

926
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: four five six teams in the league for the amount

927
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: of yards they've given up. And all of that, the

928
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: Bills defense has faced as many plays as anybody except

929
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: for those six teams and has outplayed all of them

930
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: given more opportunities to fail or give up more yards.

931
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: They have really been stellar and they've done it and

932
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: one of the reasons for that is because they've done

933
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: it without any complimentary football. Now, certainly they got some

934
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: help this last week against the Jets, but let's look

935
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: at the games they've lost where you know, the offense

936
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: is given up fumble recoveries for touchdowns, pick sixes, they're

937
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: getting you know, all the stuff's happening to them offensively

938
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: that it's you know, fumbling it in their own end.

939
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: And the defense has really risen up to it and

940
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: gotten to the top of the NFL heap with absolutely

941
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: no help from their offense. And it's been It's really

942
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: been an amazing year for those guys. And I'm and

943
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: I know, we joke about it all the time. I

944
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: thought they're gonna be a top ten defense, and I

945
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: thought they would be good. But man, they're they're they're

946
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 1: really better than good. Yes, number one in the league

947
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: right now. They're better than good because they had a

948
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: lot of things stacked against them and they have been

949
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: awesome through it all. All right, break here, We're gonna

950
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: break for the top of the arm. When we come back.

951
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: Gorman Thomas will join us Hall of Fame running back

952
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: at his take on the Bills over the last few weeks.

953
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: Come on back for that One Bill's Live presented by

954
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: Kalaida Health Company, from One Bill's Drive and this is

955
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio Hills Radio Network Stories. He got the

956
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. The Bills found out today

957
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: the kicker Stephen Housgat has been named the AFC Special

958
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: Teams Player of the Week for his performance in the

959
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Bill's victory against the Jets on Sunday. Housgat had a

960
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: pair of field goals, including a season long fifty four yarder.

961
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: He had five extra points in Buffalo's forty one to

962
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: ten win. How's Gay having one of his best seasons,

963
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: tied for fifth highest field goal percentage in the league

964
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 1: at ninety three point eight percent. He said his last

965
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: fifteen consecutive field goals after missing his first one of

966
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: the year back in Baltimore. It's the third time House

967
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: has been named the AFC Special Teams Player of the

968
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: Week in his career. Won previously for the Bills in

969
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: a Week three performance last season against Denver. Late yesterday,

970
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: the Bills announced that they have waived wide receiver Terrell Pryor,

971
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: just two weeks after picking him up. Pryor appeared in

972
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: two games for the Bills against Chicago and against the Jets,

973
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: targeted eight times, two catches for seventeen yards and the

974
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: loss of Chicago. Went without a catch against the Jets

975
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: last Sunday. The Bills were Terrell Pryor's fourth team over

976
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: the last three seasons, and the Bills added a player

977
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: to their practice squad yesterday. Cornerback Denzel Rice, most recently

978
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: used with the Cleveland Browns, played eight games this season,

979
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: mostly on special teams. It is the bye week for

980
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. They are off until Sunday, November twenty eight,

981
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: when they are home against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Ben Roethlisberger

982
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: says he plays to call the leby On Bell yesterday

983
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: texted him actually before the deadline for Bell to report.

984
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: He did not report, so leby On Bell will not

985
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: play for the Steelers or anybody else in the two

986
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: eighteen season. Roethlisberger's said he wished him the Beck the best.

987
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: He said he texted him before the deadline but did

988
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: not hear back. So laby On Bell forfeits the twenty

989
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: eighteen season and fourteen and a half million dollars in

990
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: earnings on the franchise tag in an effort reserve his

991
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: body for unrestricted free agent and the Buffalo Savers rolling along.

992
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: They beat the Tampa Bay Lightning last night. I scored

993
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: two to one at key Bank Center. Jeff Skinner scored

994
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: his thirteenth goal of the year. Kyler Coso also scored

995
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: in Carter hunting me twenty nine saves lead Buffalo to victory.

996
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: Savers have won four of their last five home games.

997
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Now they hit the road tomorrow for a three game

998
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: road trip starting Friday in Winnipeg. That's the update from

999
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. John Murphy Steve Tasker joined on the

1000
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: Subway fresh Day Hotline. Bye our buddy Thurman Thomas, Hall

1001
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: of Fame running back Thurman Thomas, who was not with

1002
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: us last week. We gave the week off after all

1003
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: of his goings on last week. Did you recover from

1004
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas marathon over their last couple of weeks or

1005
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: thurm No. I'm still kind of recovering, but still still

1006
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: moving kind of kind of fast for me, you know,

1007
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: obviously getting me a Jersey retired number of retireds. You know,

1008
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people want to talk to you, so

1009
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm continued to do you know, a lot of interviews.

1010
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: The panned a couple of weeks, but that's fine. I've

1011
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: got another Thurman Thomas event coming up, don't I? Yes,

1012
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: you do? What is that? I don't know? Well find

1013
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: I'll see you there. Yeah, Friday, Yes, the Icon Museum. Yeah, yeah,

1014
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: this Friday. Got my last Thurman Festivals. Ever, the mayor

1015
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: hasn't given me the keys to the city yet, so

1016
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: he's got to get it back from Terrell Owens first. Yeah. Listen,

1017
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: if he gives you the key to the city and

1018
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock you out, you wouldn't do me like that.

1019
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't amazing. Probably it was an amazing week though,

1020
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: Thurman and we talked to you about it a couple

1021
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: of days after it was over. Didn't not talk last week.

1022
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: But it really, I would think, gives you a chance

1023
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: to reflect on not that you need to reflect on

1024
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: your life, but just about you know, what you've been here,

1025
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: what you've meant to so many people here, what you've

1026
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: meant to this franchise. It was pretty cool. Yeah, it

1027
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: was cool. I mean, I mean a number of What

1028
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: I was amazed about was the number of guys that

1029
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: came back from the ceremonial for the alumni guys. I mean,

1030
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: some guy that I haven't seen it twenty years. I

1031
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: haven't seen Thomas Smith in about twenty years, and he

1032
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: was at the building at the party and they So, yeah,

1033
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: we reflected a lot on it. Um Bruce No jam Andre, Darrell,

1034
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: all those guys. So it was it was a great weekend.

1035
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: It's up there. I'll never forget. So after that week,

1036
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: they the Bills trudged through. Um they got they lost

1037
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: that game. The next week they come into headed to

1038
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: New York. They lost Chicago. They're coming in They're headed

1039
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: to New York and with their fourth quarterback of the season,

1040
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: and you've got to be sitting there thinking like I was, Man,

1041
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: it looked like there was no way the Bills are

1042
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: gonna walk out of MetLife Stadium with the win. And

1043
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: once again, it's unbelievable how well they played and how

1044
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: bad the Jets played and how that game went down,

1045
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: you know what, And I give a lot of credit

1046
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: to coach McDermott and his coaching cheff. Obviously the season

1047
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: is far from over, but to have those guys come

1048
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: out and really play the way that they did and really,

1049
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, just take us to the Jets and really,

1050
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, it all turned into not only just the

1051
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: Bill's winning, but you know how long is top Balls

1052
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: want to keep his shop, you know so I think

1053
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: you have to get a lot of credit to Searan

1054
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: McDermott and his coaching staffs for really keeping the guys motivated.

1055
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: And you know, you've heard it before from all the

1056
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: players that talk about they liked being order to, like

1057
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: going to work, they liked their teammates, and they liked

1058
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: being around them. Man, I think that's the start of

1059
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: Sear McDermott and Brandon being putting together a solid, solid

1060
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: or roster. Hey Dermot, what did you think of a

1061
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: searan McCoy's performance and the performance of the offensive line

1062
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: in front of him Sunday against the Jets. It was great,

1063
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, just to see him, you know, I mean,

1064
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: first time he's had a hundred yard games since he

1065
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: went last year and man, just uh, you know, it's

1066
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: always great to see him smiling and being happy. I

1067
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: know there were some talk last week about you know,

1068
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 1: he didn't didn't talk to the media, which I really

1069
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: don't get. But yeah, you know exactly, you know exactly that.

1070
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: I know you're standing outside. You should get indoors before

1071
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: you get struck by lightning. But great to see him,

1072
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's always it's always good when you know

1073
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: he could be on the sideline smiling, talking to a

1074
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: lot of the players and just having a great time

1075
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: because you know, he's the folks part of the offense.

1076
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: All right. The media thing, you brought it up. You

1077
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: never had like a boycott of talking to the media.

1078
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 1: When you would get mad, you would just you would

1079
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: just yell at the media, No, you talk to you.

1080
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: But usually yeah, well, spart of life sometimes, I know,

1081
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: I'd rather have that than just total not talk. I

1082
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: enjoyed your your performances with the media. I was enjoying yeah,

1083
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, but sometimes it was like, I mean, what

1084
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: are you actually here to talk about? Okay, hey, I

1085
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: mean we didn't have a good game. I probably didn't

1086
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: have a good game, so there was really nothing really

1087
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: to talk about. I get you, man, talk about it.

1088
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's hear what you think. Didn't you get that?

1089
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: But Jim Kelly said this. I don't know exactly what

1090
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: Jim said. Don't come over to my locker trying to

1091
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: start stuff. Yeah, it's like a thirty year old beef. You'

1092
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: you're you're living here, Jim said this. Obviously, thirty years later,

1093
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: you're still talking about Obviously Thurman has some emotional scar

1094
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: tissues he carries around. Listen. What do you think also

1095
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: about the changes in the roster against the Jets this

1096
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: last weekend? They put Marcus Murphy in the game, Isaiah

1097
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: McKenzie came in, Uh, they put Robert Foster back on

1098
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: the field. They got some speed on the outside and

1099
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: also Marcus Murphy's also added a little bit of dimension

1100
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: of speed. It seemed to change things quite a bit

1101
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: against the Jets. Well, I think you know, when when

1102
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: you're at the bottom of the league and in offense

1103
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: or what have you, Yeah, you have to look for

1104
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: some change with some different things. And uh, have those

1105
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: guys out there playing like that, the new guys. I

1106
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: thought it was absolutely great, you know what I mean,

1107
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: Let's let's continue to do that for the rest of

1108
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: the year. I thought, what, what telligion an excellent job?

1109
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: I mean for him to get in there, and you

1110
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: know he's going against what what's his name, little Williams? Yeah? Yeah,

1111
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: and did an outstanding John tell her against him? Yeah? Yeah.

1112
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: I mean, so, you know what, these are the things

1113
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: you have to look for going throughout the season. We're

1114
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: kind of building tour for next year. You know, now

1115
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: it might not be able to they might not have

1116
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: to look at the guard position now because why I

1117
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: tell us, you know, had one good game, but you

1118
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 1: have to also keep that going. Yeah. With Thurman Thomas

1119
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: all the Fame running back for We're Buffalo Bill joining

1120
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: us on the show today. Hey, Thurman, we're kind of

1121
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: looking ahead a little bit here on the show and

1122
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl voting is underway now for the fans, it continues,

1123
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: We're about the next month. Tell me what you think

1124
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: about who might deserve to be in the Pro Bowl

1125
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: from the Bills. We've kind of limited it to defensive players.

1126
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, Stevens, I guess, Davis White. Who would you

1127
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: think would get your Pro Bowl vote? Um? I would

1128
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: probably go man, probably, Uh, Jerry Hughes and Davis White. Yeah.

1129
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: I think I think if you look at the most

1130
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: consistent guys throughout the year, I think it's been those

1131
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: two guys. I think they played remarkable. I mean, Jerry

1132
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: Hughes set the tone last week once again for the Jets,

1133
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: and Davis been a shut down call all year long.

1134
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: So I think it's the one end of that. You know,

1135
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: you give those two to those two guys that the

1136
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: notch and probably Stephen High School. Yeah, there you go. Absolutely, Yeah.

1137
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: I got one more Bills this year to ask you about. Um, Okay, thanks.

1138
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: Sean mcdermant said that when Josh Allen is healthy, he

1139
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: will be the starter again. Any thoughts on that, even

1140
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: as well as Barkley played, What do you think? Uh?

1141
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: You know, I've never really doubted anything that Sean McDermand

1142
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: has said. You know, I like the guy I think

1143
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: he's been for these players, so I'm right along with him.

1144
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: If he's healthy enough to play, then I think he

1145
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: should play. So I mean, he's a franchise quarterback that

1146
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: we're going to be looking for for the next ten

1147
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: or fifteen years, So why not put him out there.

1148
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously haven't played in a while, but

1149
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, he has to learn. And I think now

1150
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of these younger quarterbacks being out

1151
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: there thrown into the fire. They have to learn. It's

1152
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: a learning curve. I mean, all the great quarterbacks have

1153
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: have gone through a situation like this and and they

1154
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: have to learn it. So I would say, if he's healthy,

1155
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. Put him out there and see

1156
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: what he can do. What do you think of the

1157
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: fact that Levion Bell has decided not to play at

1158
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: all this year? You know, that was a shock to me.

1159
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: I was very surprised by that decision, him and his

1160
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: agent not really coming to terms with Philadelphia and I

1161
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: mean Pittsburgh and not having an opportunity to play football

1162
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, it's basically a wasted year for him.

1163
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: But you know, that's uh, just a little strange and

1164
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: a little weird because you never really have had anything

1165
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: happened to a great organization like the Pittsburgh Still or

1166
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: something like this, a player sitting out for the entire

1167
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: year at a position where I think we talked about

1168
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: it months ago, what are the lowest paid average positions

1169
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. So very shocked and surprised

1170
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: by it. But we'll have to see what happens, you know,

1171
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: come next year and see, you know, will somebody pay

1172
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: him that much money? You'll be a free agent? But

1173
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: not of course that's short now that people who want

1174
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: to pay that type of money for a guy who

1175
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: didn't play a year and so I and especially being

1176
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: at that position. Hey, I wonder you had some holdouts,

1177
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: but never seemed to go much deeper than end of

1178
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: the preseason. What's I mean? Obviously you have a strong

1179
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: commntion on something when you hold out like that, But

1180
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: did you ever think you're gonna missing again time because

1181
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: of a contract dispute? No? Never, never. I can remember

1182
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,479
Speaker 1: one time. I think I came to training camp before

1183
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: I got to deal with that. I was a training

1184
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: camp for a couple of weeks. Uh, I think I

1185
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: held out. I think I held out one time and

1186
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: miss the entire training camp. But you know, I kept

1187
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: myself in great shape, always staying in contact with my

1188
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: with my teammates, and obviously that was something that leban

1189
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: Bill didn't do. But I kept in touch with my corp,

1190
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: with my my teammates and uh what was going on.

1191
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: And so it was. It was a different situation back

1192
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: then than it is now. Hey, um, we want to

1193
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: ask you speaking of other running backs, did you hear

1194
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: what Marshall Fock had to say about you thrum the

1195
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: other day? Yes? I did. Can you play it? Let me?

1196
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: Let me play it for our audience. Marshall Fock, all

1197
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: of Famer talking about Thurman Thomas and what an inspiration

1198
01:00:54,760 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: he was. Listen to this, think about it being part

1199
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: of an offense that threw the ball all the time,

1200
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: and when they ran the ball, you've got the job done,

1201
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: being able to catch the football out of the backfield

1202
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, willing to pass block, got every y

1203
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: already could out of every carry he had. I remember

1204
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety four, my rookie year, we played

1205
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and after that game, to have a

1206
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas find me and let me know that I

1207
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: was the future and that I was doing everything right.

1208
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: And it wasn't about the advice. It was here's my number.

1209
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: Call me if you ever need anything, if you ever

1210
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 1: want to know anything. His willingness to help me get better,

1211
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas, you inspired me. Wow, it's pretty amazing think

1212
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: about Oh yeah, actually I saw a couple of days ago, well,

1213
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: a couple of fo a week ago, and uh now

1214
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, as a football player and then

1215
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: at that position or any position, you know, that's what

1216
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: you're that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to

1217
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: teach the younger guys, inspire them to do the right thing,

1218
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: that especially at your position. And obviously Marsha's a great

1219
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: friend of mine. Um, you know, he was kind of

1220
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: in a situation where Ted Marshall Broder left us and

1221
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: went to Indy and that's where he became, you know,

1222
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: the type of player that he's been over the course

1223
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: of his career, Hall of Fame career with the coach

1224
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: and with the Rams and h great guy. Love him

1225
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: to death. He's actually we called each other twins because

1226
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of places where if I go

1227
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. People call me Marshall all the time,

1228
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: and I just run with it, And a lot of

1229
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: people call him Thurm and he said, I run with

1230
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: it too. He's a great guy man, really really appreciate

1231
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: all the things that he's done over the years, uh,

1232
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, with the rams and everything. So just a

1233
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: great guy, great friend of mine. Then we gotta be

1234
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: Are we getting close to the debut of an NFL

1235
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: network a movie about you football life, Firm and times.

1236
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: That's coming up soon, isn't it. Yeah, it's coming up

1237
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: soon and be out in December. I can't tell you

1238
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: the exact date. I mean, I do know it, but

1239
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ruin the surprise for everybody, Okay, but

1240
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, they'll give like a couple of days before.

1241
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: They'll run like a little preview of when it's going,

1242
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: when it's coming on, what time is coming on? So right, Yeah,

1243
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: So it's not gonna come out. It's not gonna come

1244
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: out on like the thirty fourth of December or something

1245
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: like that. Nothing like that, all right, No, Yeah, So yeah,

1246
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: my uh, my kids and everybody's popped up for it,

1247
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: and they've been telling me, you know, this is it

1248
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: for you. That's just football life. There's no more other

1249
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: things that you can achieve. I was like, no, I

1250
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: think there's still a lot of more things that I

1251
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: could achieve. It's still got to get the keys to Buffalo. Yeah,

1252
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: but you know what, you know, my situation has kind

1253
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: of changed a little bit. You know, I get out

1254
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: of football for a number of years, and you know

1255
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: my idea now is, you know, do whatever I can

1256
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: to help the video buffalo them. That's it. That's pretty cool. Hey,

1257
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: one other thing I know that got your attention, Uh

1258
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: stan Lee died the other day. Marvel Comics and creators

1259
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: of Spider Man and uh something got your attention. W

1260
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: f A and the radio host Mike Francessa. Let me

1261
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: play this too and get your thoughts on this. Mike Francessa,

1262
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: you're laughing already. I haven't seen this. This is what

1263
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: Mike Francessa New York said about stan Lee passing away.

1264
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: Eddie and Hoboken was up, Eddie? Hey, what's up? Mike's

1265
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: Mike stan Lee died today. Did you ever meet the guy?

1266
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: What do you think of him? Stan Lee? Yes, stan Lee?

1267
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Speaker 1: I don't know who he is. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: he is now, Jesus, who is he? Who is he?

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Speaker 1: Who is stan Lee? He was one of the creators

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Speaker 1: of Marvel Comics. Oh who cares? I mean, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a comic book guy. That is that? Who

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01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: he is? Stanley the guy created Spider Man, that was

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: as the creative Spider Man. Sorry, I never was a

1274
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: comic book greater as a kid. I apologize. Never. Mike

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01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: Francess is my hero Thurman. I want to be like

1276
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: that when I grow up. You want to be I

1277
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: want to be just as clueless as my friends. The

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: old Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what? Whoever who's

1279
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 1: ever running that show out and gave him a stink

1280
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: slip right after that. Give me a break. You don't

1281
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: know who Stanley is? You know? Comic book spighter Man?

1282
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: Do you have it? He doesn't even have kids. I

1283
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: don't know if he does. Now, don't you mention? I mean,

1284
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: come on, you don't know who Spider Man? Come on?

1285
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah that. Stan Lee was also famous for making cameos

1286
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: in movies a lot yea, he was in a lot

1287
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah. I'm not a comic book free either,

1288
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: But Jesus, I mean, I know who's staning louis unbelievable.

1289
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: Believe have you ever met stan Lee Thurman and your

1290
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: brushes with greatness over the years. No, I have not.

1291
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: I have not. You big we are big Marvel fans family. Okay,

1292
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: have you have you run acros any major celebrities over

1293
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: the last few weeks since the last time we talked here?

1294
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: Know him? No, I'm supposed to meet some golfers tonight,

1295
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: but I don't know who's coming. Where are you? I'm

1296
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: in Sea all in Georgia. I didn't know that. What

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01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: are you doing down there? Oh? Do some stuff for

1298
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: the PGA and Janny King? All right, all right, very nice.

1299
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: It's the life, man, that's pretty amazing. Good weather, I

1300
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: hope down there. Right, that's a little chilly, you know.

1301
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm not you know me bad from Buffalo. I'm down

1302
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: here and short ten a sweat shirt. Everybody else is

1303
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: bundled up. All right, we'll do it. And it's only

1304
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: and it's only sixty. Yeah, we'll do us proud down there. Yeah, Thurman,

1305
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: thanks for this. Good to spend some time with you.

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01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: We'll talk again soon. Thank you, all right, buddy, I'll

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01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: see you guys next week. All okay, Thurman Thomas on

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01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: the line with us the subway fresh accountline presented by

1309
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: Subway Restaurant's probably be locally owned and operated. I wanted

1310
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: to ask him right after the rip where he was,

1311
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: but it's a little sometimes you don't want people to

1312
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: know where you are seriously. And it sounded like he

1313
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: was standing by the side of a road, didn't it,

1314
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: or did just run a marathon? Listen, he may be

1315
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: on the four hundred for all we know, you know,

1316
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he could say whatever he wants. He just

1317
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: couldn't make it into the studio today. It sounded like

1318
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: he was standing by the side of a high I know,

1319
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: it sounded like somebody was going by. It might have

1320
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: been it could have been golf carts too, but it

1321
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: sounded like cars going by on the highway. And the

1322
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: wind was blowing. Once in a while in the mic,

1323
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: I was you know, see Island Georgia. Yeah, of all

1324
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: of your you know, prominent teammates and well of your

1325
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: seven presidents, how many presidents you got? Five presidents? Thurman

1326
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: probably maximizes his retirement status in his final of fame

1327
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: status more than anyone else. Would you agree or I

1328
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: don't know al though Kelly does a lot too. Kelly's

1329
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: always traveling. Listen those I call him the five Presidents

1330
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: for a reason. Man. Yeah, if you're on the Mount Rushmore,

1331
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: you yeah, you can ride that way pretty well. I

1332
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: think Thurman does it well though. Listen. Bruce as at

1333
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: a point when his business adventures and stuff where he

1334
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: does nothing that he didn't want to do. I mean

1335
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: he is. Bruce has done extremely well in business since

1336
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: he returned real estate, right I could guess I wasn't.

1337
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: He developed a hotel in Canton. Yeah? Yeah, and then

1338
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: uh you know, Jim Uh. Andre does the same. Andre's

1339
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: full time Andre Reid pork Rind sponsor. He is, Yeah,

1340
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: Andre is. His job is being Andre read percent of

1341
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: the time. Will you hear them? When we were Super

1342
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: Bowl and Andre was going around Radio Row this is

1343
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: two years, two Worlds ago, and he was doing the

1344
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: pork rind game. He was speaking oft behalf of the

1345
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: Pork Rinds Association of America. There you go, man. And

1346
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: I didn't laugh at him. But if the check clears,

1347
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: I assume he cleared. He got mad at us. He

1348
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: got mad at me because I wasn't laughing at him.

1349
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: I just pork Rinds. Would you would you do the

1350
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: pork Rinds? Would you be the spokesperson for pork Rinds?

1351
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: What's the number? Have our answer, ladies and gentlemen, we

1352
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: have our answer, right, I mean, listen, you know, I mean,

1353
01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're wonderful people. I'm sure they were. Yeah, yeah,

1354
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: well yeah, so it would you know, for some things

1355
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: you do it for nothing and other things. Was doing

1356
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: something for Janet King basically janitorial operations, right, yeah, But

1357
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: I think he's got it. He's got a franchise, doesn't

1358
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: he does he? I don't know he does, Okay. I

1359
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: think he's in that business. He's got some skin in

1360
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: that game. Okay, So it's different for him in that.

1361
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: And what about you, Steve. I'm sitting here with you, Mrs.

1362
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: Being on the same team as you. Use all the

1363
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: padding I need. M all right. We're gonna come back

1364
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: with more, find out where Steve does next next in

1365
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: his semi retirement, and more issues including the Bills belong

1366
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: on the Pro Bowl. What do you think? Give us

1367
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: a call? Eight O three five fifty and toll free

1368
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty one

1369
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio

1370
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: one does Live from One Bills Drive. I find show

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01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: of the week. We are off Thursday and Friday back

1372
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: on Monday. It's the bye week. In case you didn't

1373
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: get the memo. Even Steve Tasker and I deserve a

1374
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: couple of days off on our crew, we're getting a

1375
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: couple of days off, whether we deserve it or not.

1376
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: Beside that point, good point. I was telling you and

1377
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: I I want to get into this because we had

1378
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 1: just a minute. Okay, So we went to a hockey

1379
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: game last night. Yes, and I don't know. Do you

1380
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: ever do you buy the fifty fifty tickets when you

1381
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: go to those? No, you don't ever buy a fifty

1382
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: fifty ticket of the Sabers game. I don't think we're

1383
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: eligible to win. We're employees. I better be eligible to win.

1384
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a Sabers employee. You are a p Wait

1385
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: am I not an eligible to win? Ja? I don't

1386
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: think you can win as a pre it's a psc.

1387
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: I've been throwing cash down the even if I want,

1388
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 1: I didn't win, all right, So that's beside the point. Anyway,

1389
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: So now that you've now that now that you've stopped

1390
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: me from buying any more, you know, charitable donations. So

1391
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: we're going that. Last night and my son is with

1392
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: me and he goes, hey, I was here with my

1393
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: friend Rob one night and he won it the fifty

1394
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 1: fifty at a sabe. You know it's a it's a

1395
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: big chunk. Right, It's like last night it was like

1396
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: twenty two grand wow. Right, So I don't know when

1397
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: it was he won or whatever. My son said cost

1398
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: him money? What do you mean how to get cost

1399
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: him money? That's a big chunk. He goes, yeah, I

1400
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: put him into another tax bracket. He won so much,

1401
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: kicked him a different well he was making just like

1402
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: underneath whatever threshold there is the where the next percentage

1403
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: kicks in. And the percentage put him cost him money.

1404
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, that that's worse than finding out you're a

1405
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: you're in elgent. I don't think you can um, you

1406
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: can win. I was just told over that. Jay harrits

1407
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: Our producer said no, you can't win. You can't. Well,

1408
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: at least don't have to worry about buying tickets anymore.

1409
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: You should. You could do it and make it a

1410
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: charitable donation. How much how many tickets? What do you by?

1411
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: How many take it? I'd dropped to twenty on him.

1412
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: Oh how many weeks have you done that? How many?

1413
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: Are we talking? Hundreds? Thousands? What do we got here? No, no,

1414
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: I'll but let's see over the course of the Yeah,

1415
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: I'll bet you. I'll bet you there's a houndo in there,

1416
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 1: a couple of hundo in there over the course of

1417
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: the wine. I did not know that. Come on, man,

1418
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: what else are you doing with your money? There? Maybe

1419
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: somebody else take a look at this. I need something.

1420
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: Hey on Twitter? Be sure though, if I won, it

1421
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't kick me into the next bracket. I'm you're pretty

1422
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: you're pretty far up there. You're at You're at the

1423
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 1: top level, aren't you. Yeah. Our Twitter poll today deals

1424
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: with the Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl ballanting for fans

1425
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: is underway continues still December thirteenth. Which Bill's player would

1426
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: you vote for to make the Pro Bowl? Got a

1427
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: Twitter pole up there? Uh, and you can do that,

1428
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: and right now, fifty six percent of you say Tredavious

1429
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: White would be your choice. Nineteen percent say Stephen House,

1430
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: got eighteen percent say Jerry who was seven percent. Have

1431
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: somebody else in mind. Give us a call. Let's know

1432
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: what you think. Eight oh three five fifty toll free

1433
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty fifty Todd on the

1434
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: line from Buffalo. Go ahead, Todd, you're on the air.

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01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: Hey are you doing guys? I'm surprised that Jerry Hughes

1436
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: percentage isn't higher. Um. I'm may be biased because I

1437
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: was a defensive player myself, but I feel like he

1438
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: doesn't take a playoff and his stats really don't reflect

1439
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: how good he is. Um. He gets a lot of

1440
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback. You know, I think he's only

1441
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: got a handful of sacks and and a half so far.

1442
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: It's a little more than a handful. I guess on

1443
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: paper it doesn't seem seller. But you know, um, so

1444
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: I was who got any magnifying glass on him? You

1445
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: watched Jerry Hughes every play. He never takes the playoff.

1446
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: He has to be accounted for all the time, and

1447
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: he makes life easier for guys like Tradevious White because

1448
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: he's in the quarterbacks face all the time. Yeah, yeah,

1449
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: I agree, Todd. He is really he's a great player.

1450
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. He is a fantastic pass rusher,

1451
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: the Bills got him in a trade straight across with

1452
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts for Kelvin Shepherd. Correct, ye, And you know,

1453
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 1: Kelvin Shepherd's not playing football right now. And Jerry Hughes

1454
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: is a high level, if not elite pass rusher in

1455
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: the NFL right at this time. I mean, he is

1456
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: in his prime and he is playing really well. Now

1457
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: He's only got, as we said, five and a half sacks,

1458
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: and that alone might keep a guy out of the

1459
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl because fans look at those numbers and say, wow,

1460
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: this guy must be good or this guy must be

1461
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: bad to make a snap judgment around the country for

1462
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: team guys who aren't in your market, Like you know,

1463
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: if you're in LA, you're not a Bills fan. You're

1464
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: just saying okay, and you vote for the vote for

1465
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl that way, or you just vote for

1466
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: the player on your team, no matter what his stats are.

1467
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: So Jerry's going to fight against that unless you get

1468
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, double digit or mid double digit sacks of

1469
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen sacks I'm talking about. So he's fighting against that.

1470
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: But I don't think any question He's playing on the

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01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: number one defense in the league, and he is the

1472
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: pass rusher off the edge. Trent Murphy hasn't contributed too

1473
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: much because he's been hurt, and Shack Lawson has played

1474
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: well and played much better this year than he has

1475
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: in the past. But Jerry Hughes is the guy on

1476
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: the number one defense in the league. I found the

1477
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: stand I was looking for going into the last week's

1478
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: game before the Jets game. This is according to stats

1479
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: LLC Jerry who was only two players going into last

1480
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: week's game. Only two players had generated more pressures on

1481
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: opposing quarterbacks this year, and a pressure is any played

1482
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: with a full or half a sack, a hit, a hurry,

1483
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: or a knocked out. Jerry, Who's going into last week,

1484
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: had forty six pressures. Aaron Donald led the league with

1485
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: sixty five, d Ford of Kansas City had fifty, and

1486
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: then Jerry Hughes with forty six. Aaron Donald's going to

1487
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. D Ford might go to the Pro Bowl.

1488
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes is right there behind him, third in quarterback pressures.

1489
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 1: He is ahead of luminaries like J. J. Watt, Jadavion Clowne,

1490
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, Danielle Hunter. Jerry uses third in quarterback pressures

1491
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: going into last week. So we see it every week,

1492
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: and the numbers bear it out too, you know, bear

1493
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: out this how well and effective he's played. What a

1494
01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 1: great pass pressure he is. He really is. And I

1495
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: tell you there's a couple of times, and I mentioned

1496
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: it just a few minutes ago, when you look at

1497
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: the interception that Matt Malone got down the far side,

1498
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: go back and look at it. If you have that,

1499
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: if you have the means and then and wherewithal to

1500
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: do that, watch Jerry Hughes come off the edge and

1501
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 1: get Josh McCown. We're seeing a replay of a sack

1502
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: he got on Account last week. But the rush he

1503
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: puts on that led to the interception was a joke.

1504
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean there there left tackle was absolutely like whiffed

1505
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: on Jerry, and he really forced m Account into trying to,

1506
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: you know, throw the football away. He had a couple

1507
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: of knockdowns last week as well. I mean, Josh McCown

1508
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: was getting his passes batted at the line of scrimmage

1509
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: all day on Sunday, and that was the sign of

1510
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: a good defense. And I agree with you, Todd the

1511
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: caller just a minute ago. Jerry Hughes is as good

1512
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: a defensive player playing in his prime as the Bills

1513
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: have on their team right now. Than calling, here's a

1514
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: called from Tim in deep Hello Tim, go ahead and

1515
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us, Hey, guys, how are

1516
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: you doing great? I love the show? Nineties was my day,

1517
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 1: so I always got to start by telling guys like Steve, Steve,

1518
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: thanks for the memories. Definitely gave me some great memories

1519
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: with my dad before we lost him during all those years.

1520
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: So continually look finally back on those days. I get

1521
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: a kick out of the comments or should I say,

1522
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 1: the conversation you just had with Thurman. I didn't realize

1523
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: the connection him and Marshall Falk had, but kind of

1524
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: quick funny story. A few years back, I was fortunate

1525
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: enough to be with Thurman and a behind the scenes

1526
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: type of thing, and I had my son with me

1527
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: and at the time he was he was twelve and

1528
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: fulk was you know, doing really well with the Rams

1529
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: at the time. And so I'm fawning over, you know,

1530
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: Thurman obviously because of all the years. And I says

1531
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: to my son, this is Thurman Thomas and he looks

1532
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,879
Speaker 1: at me and goes, that doesn't help me, Dad, Oh, okay,

1533
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: um and Thurman's like, come on, man, and I said,

1534
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: Marshall Falk and my son popped up his head turned

1535
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: around and said yeah yeah. I said, well this was

1536
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: show Faulk before Nashall Folk. Thank you guys, Yeah you

1537
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: beg Sam, Thanks, you're right and uh uh yeah, Therm

1538
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: could do it all. He really was. It's it's fun

1539
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: to have him on every every week and talk to

1540
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: him and you can tell he's a well you said

1541
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,799
Speaker 1: you made a joke about what it was like covering

1542
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 1: him back when he played and when if if if

1543
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: he was cranky, it was almost a show, you know, right,

1544
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean he would like just go down the line

1545
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: of you guys and just be read you and then

1546
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 1: he'd be ray you and he'd be ready the next one.

1547
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: And so but I enjoyed it, right, it was. It

1548
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: was so now you can see that you know, he's

1549
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: come kind of full circle now that he's gotten out

1550
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: of he'd gotten in the Hall of Fame, how you know,

1551
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, the stress is out of his life and

1552
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: you know kind of kind of thing where he's a

1553
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: different kind of guy. He's got a different Personality's a

1554
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 1: lot of fun to be around when he doesn't have

1555
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: to play a game every weekend. I was thinking about this,

1556
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: and can you imagine how difficult this week would have

1557
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: been head the Bills, not one to go into the

1558
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: bye week with five consecutive us to lose to the Jets,

1559
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: A pretty bad team. Now put yourself in the Jets position.

1560
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: They've lost Fornaro. Now they just lost forty one to

1561
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: ten at home to the Buffalo Bills, who were having

1562
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: trouble scoring points. The Jets, I'm sure right now they're

1563
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: in there by week scratching their heads, wondering about their coach,

1564
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: wondering about their season. Jamal Adams, They're great. Second year

1565
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: safety was on his radio show the other day. He

1566
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 1: said a couple of interesting things, including the fact that

1567
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: he said that his team didn't prep much for Matt Barkley.

1568
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: I gotta find this. Well, here's what he said. The

1569
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: Jets didn't prep much for Matt Barkley. He said, Um,

1570
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: he said, we're not playing well, obviously, but guys in

1571
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: the locker room did not expect that they would see

1572
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley quarterback for the Bills. Here's what he said

1573
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: on the show on w fa N radio. We obviously

1574
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: planned for Josh Allen to come in there, Um, we

1575
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: thought he was going to play oppos and he didn't play. Um,

1576
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: and you know, um, obviously we didn't have a lot

1577
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 1: of film on Barkley and you know, head tumps for him.

1578
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: He came in there and did the hell of a job. Um.

1579
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: But you know, obviously, you know, coming in we just

1580
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: we knew that, Um, he was gonna be a possession guy.

1581
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: We knew he was gonna take his shots. But um,

1582
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: you know, uh, we we we definitely didn't have film

1583
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: on him, if that's if that's what you're asking. But uh,

1584
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: and the day the coaches is not on the field. Um,

1585
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, the players are definitely on the field. So UM,

1586
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: as growing men, we gotta go out there and do

1587
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: our job at all times. Um. You know everything they ran,

1588
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: we we practicing and you know, uh dar in practice.

1589
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 1: Um you know, everybody wasn't doing a job. No one

1590
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: came to play. Um. And I'm not gonna sit there

1591
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: and say that, Um, you know, guys just obviously, man,

1592
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: guys just didn't come to play as simple as that. Man,

1593
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: It's really no, it's no, it's no going into detail

1594
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: about it. Um, those guys you know, they kept they

1595
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: kept running the same plays, and honestly, we just weren't

1596
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: stopping it. Whether it was not sitting the gap, whether

1597
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't communicating um, whatever the case may be, on

1598
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, special team, whatever it was, man,

1599
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: it just didn't go right for us. Again, I'm gonna

1600
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: support t bows. T bows is not the problem, and

1601
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep saying it. But other than that, it

1602
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: is what it is. It is what it is. Well here,

1603
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: I look. I like Jamal Adams. He is a great player.

1604
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 1: He played well last Sunday, he played hard. But come on,

1605
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: we didn't prep for Matt Barkley. There's a reason why

1606
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley had not taken a snap in a couple

1607
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 1: of years. He was not up to it. He wasn't

1608
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: on an NFL roster and didn't earn a spot on

1609
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: an NFL roster. It's not like we didn't prep for

1610
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: Lebron James, you know, It's not like we didn't prep

1611
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: for Joe Montana. You didn't prep for Matt Barkley, and

1612
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: that's why you lost. Come on, what would change about

1613
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: your prep? And I thought it was going to be

1614
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: Matt Barkley, what would you do differently? I don't know

1615
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: if you would do anything differently, And I don't think

1616
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: it had as much to do with Matt barkley plan

1617
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: as it did to do with the with the different

1618
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: offensive plays the Bills were able to run because of

1619
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: the added speed they put on. It wasn't Matt Barkley

1620
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: so much as it was Isaiah McKenzie and Robert Foster

1621
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: and Zay Jones as a younger, faster group of wide

1622
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: receivers who were making catches and making plays. And that's

1623
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: that was what the difference was. And you know, you're right,

1624
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: he is a really good player Jamal Adams for the

1625
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: Jets and he's gonna be for a long time, so

1626
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: Bills fans are gonna get a load of him. But

1627
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: you think about the line of questioning that the Jets

1628
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: players are having to answer this week about their head coach.

1629
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy's in there four years,

1630
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: his fourth year as head coach, and you know they're

1631
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: still trying to get it together. In a lot of respects,

1632
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: it was a team that did not play well against

1633
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: a team where they were favored big time, and it's

1634
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: just you know that you can imagine what a long

1635
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: two weeks it's going to be before the Jets can

1636
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: get on the field and make amends for that. The

1637
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: performance they put out against the Bills better than than us, Right,

1638
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: we'd be we'd be deep into that if the Bills

1639
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 1: had lost someh out of the Jets, well, you start

1640
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: to question everything, especially when you have time to sit

1641
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: around and there's nothing else to talk about. There's no game,

1642
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: there's no opponent to think about. You keep rehashing and

1643
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: hashing over what went wrong and what could have gone

1644
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: better and what didn't happen, and you start to talk

1645
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: yourself into things that you know don't make sense in

1646
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: the big picture. And that's where you got to fight,

1647
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, not to go. And certainly this win is,

1648
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, while it's you know, it's it's one win

1649
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: in a long season, it certainly shows that there are

1650
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 1: some things that this coaching staff has done and been

1651
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: trying to do that finally came back and rewarded them

1652
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: for all the decisions and the changes they've been trying

1653
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: to make. All Right, we're gonna take a break, we're

1654
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna come back talk more about the Pro Bowl, which

1655
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: Bills belong in the Pro Bowl and your estimation and

1656
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: other Bills issues as well. Give us a call. We

1657
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: got lines open eighth three five fifty toll free one

1658
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. John Murphy Steve

1659
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: Tasker one goes live from One Wheels Drive. I'm Buffalo

1660
01:23:51,360 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome Back one does live from one of

1661
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: Goos Drive. John Murfee Steve Tasker our last show of

1662
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: the week. We're back on Monday after today because of

1663
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: the bye week. Where the Belts. You got a game

1664
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: this week? Where are you going? Baltimore and Baltimore? Cincinnati

1665
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: at Baltimore. Nice quick flight. I'll be back to a

1666
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: reasonable hour. Do you know that your boy, Joe Flacco,

1667
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: he's not practicing today and he may not start. Lamar

1668
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: Man there, Lamar Jackson is all over the airwaves. They're

1669
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: thinking that it's time to go to him because you

1670
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: know this, come on, he said, he's Ramar Jackson cannot

1671
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: throw the football anywhere near Joe. Joe Flacco could sit

1672
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: in a chair and throw it better than most guys.

1673
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: Flacco did not speak to reporters today, dealing with a

1674
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: hip injury. Coach John Harbaugh declined to talk about his

1675
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. The Ravens and the Bengal It's kind of

1676
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: a big game, I guess, right, and I think it is. Yeah,

1677
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 1: I mean there this is a they're still way into

1678
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: this playoff. I mean the Bengals are in the middle

1679
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: of it. Yea, so they can't be sidetracked. They're kind

1680
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 1: of they just hired Hugh Jackson of all people to

1681
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: help with the offense. Good offense. They're right behind Pittsburgh's

1682
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh six two and one, Cincinnati's five and four, Baltimore's

1683
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: four and five, So they'll have identical records after this

1684
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: game if Baltimore is able to beat him at home.

1685
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: But they're still chasing around for that wildcard spot in

1686
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: the ASC, and you know, one of them may well

1687
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: get it. But this Lamar Jackson stuff, I think people

1688
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: are clamoring to see him just because they're so tired

1689
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: of looking at Joe Flacco. Yeah, that's it really is,

1690
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: don't you think. I mean we've seen play We saw

1691
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: him play really well early in the season against the Bills. Yeah,

1692
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: and I've seen him play well. Yeah, I've seen him

1693
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 1: play well on a number of occasies. But if he's injured.

1694
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: That's a different story. And I think because John Harbo's

1695
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 1: being coy, well, I don't know what that anything. It

1696
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: might mean that he Lamar Jackson might be the guy

1697
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 1: might be. Let's take some phone calls here. We gotta

1698
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: call about Buffalo's quarterback situation, John and Alden. Go ahead, John,

1699
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Hey, thanks for having me. I

1700
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: really enjoy the show. Thanks John. The only point that

1701
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 1: I want to make is that, I mean, I understand

1702
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's our future and that's the way we're going

1703
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: to go in the future. Obviously. My problem is is

1704
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: that I don't want to see this kid get wrecked

1705
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: if he goes out there and things don't go the

1706
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: right way. I mean, Buffalo has been notoriously terrible on

1707
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. I mean, Nate Peterman's a perfect example. I

1708
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: had some bad games whom he's gone. Everybody's all over media,

1709
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: everything else, just ripping that guy apart. He was a

1710
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: two year quarterback. It wasn't like he was a seasoned veteran.

1711
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: He got the city year behind Tyrod Taylor and watch him.

1712
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't want to see them do that.

1713
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: If you have a guy like, I mean, the way

1714
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: Barkley came out and played last week, why not just

1715
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: let him sit. It's not like they're going anywhere, and

1716
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: let him watch and watch defenses and all that type

1717
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: of stuff. John, What do you think is gonna happen

1718
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,560
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen? I mean if if he comes in

1719
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: and doesn't really play that well, but you can see

1720
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: some progress. They're not winning too many games, you know,

1721
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: they want to win any games. What do you think

1722
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: the downside is? The downside is I think that the

1723
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: media and fan base and everything else will start ripping

1724
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 1: this kid apart, and that's gonna end up loving his

1725
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: confidence like it's done for so many young quarterbacks that

1726
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: we've had here since Jim. I mean, I understand everybody

1727
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: in Bufflo wats Jim Kelly. Everybody forgets the fact that

1728
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,520
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly played four years of poll in the USFL

1729
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: before he came here. And I'm going to hang up

1730
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: and hear what you guys have to say. Thank you? Yeah,

1731
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's always the thing. I still think though.

1732
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: I think here's what you got to know that even

1733
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: though Josh goes in there and even if he doesn't

1734
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: light it up, which he probably won't. I mean, let's

1735
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: be honest, He's not kind of going there and throw

1736
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: for three hundred and sixty five yards, four touchdowns and

1737
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: no interceptions. Probably, But I think you've got to know

1738
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: that the expectations are going to be different and the

1739
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 1: patient level is going to be really high for a

1740
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: guy like Josh Allen for a couple of reasons. One,

1741
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: you've never had a first round quarterback or a young

1742
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: quarterback like you're talking about. With his physical ability. He's

1743
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: bigger than any quarterback. He's got a better arm. He

1744
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: was drafted high for a reason. He's got physical attributes

1745
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: that you haven't seen any And that goes back to

1746
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: Jplassman and EJ. Manuel goes in any other quarterbacks you

1747
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: can name that come in here, Trent Edwards. Josh Allen

1748
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: has a special unique arms a. He's a big, strong,

1749
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: fast athlete as well. He's a different animal than any

1750
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: young quarterback you've had here before. The patience level by

1751
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 1: the organization is going to be much much higher than

1752
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: it's ever been with a young quarterback like the ones

1753
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: you're talking about. John the caller, and so I think

1754
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 1: he Josh is going to have a longer leash because

1755
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: of his physical attributes, because of the investment the club's

1756
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: made in him, They're gonna be willing to live with

1757
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: some pretty rough patches from this young guys. No, no,

1758
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 1: the bills, the coaching staff, the front office, even his teammates,

1759
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna give this guy a lot of leeway to

1760
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: find himself and get better. The thought is, even if

1761
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: it's baby steps along through these last six games, where

1762
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: he may start all of them, even if it's baby

1763
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 1: steps through there, they're gonna take those and they're gonna

1764
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: be happy they get him. They just want to see

1765
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: flashes of where he could be going once in a while,

1766
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: and if he can start cutting out from away from

1767
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: the big mistakes, he can start. And we had a

1768
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 1: caller yesterday we alluded to one thing you'd like to

1769
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 1: see is for him to stand in the pocket and

1770
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: not pull it down and run so quickly. Steps like

1771
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: that and signs of progress like that or all you're

1772
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: looking for in this next six games from Josh Allen.

1773
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: With the number one defense in the league, and his

1774
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 1: ability to maybe just get some things done in the

1775
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: passing game will help the running game as well. Maybe

1776
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 1: they will start to score a few points, and that

1777
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: changes everything for this team. With the number one defense

1778
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: in the league, they might wind up at the end

1779
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 1: of this season looking like a pretty good football team,

1780
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: and although it may be too late, it'll still lay

1781
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: the groundwork for a better and more productive year next year.

1782
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 1: So I, John, I see what you're saying. You don't

1783
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: want this guy to be kicked to the curb before

1784
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: he's really had a chance to fail and get better

1785
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 1: or climb out of a bad outing. But I don't

1786
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,799
Speaker 1: think they're running that risk with this coaching staff, Murphedew.

1787
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're they're going to hang in there.

1788
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: Way did I disagree with the caller about is Josh

1789
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: Allen sitting and watching is not equal to Josh Allen

1790
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: playing And the best way for him, not the only way,

1791
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: but the best way for him to get better is

1792
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: to play and to make mistakes, and to learn from

1793
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: his mistakes, and to and to make a mistake and

1794
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: come right back on the very next play and take

1795
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: the next snap. And I think that's too much to

1796
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: give up with six games remaining, to give up the

1797
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 1: possibility of getting better. Do you think that that is

1798
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of a gamble to put him out

1799
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: there and know that he's gonna stink it up at

1800
01:30:56,720 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: times and then run the risk of of making sure

1801
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: making it so that he doesn't develop further. Again, you know,

1802
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 1: you don't think there's a risk there that they ruin him, right, No,

1803
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: I kind of agree that. I agree. I think people look.

1804
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 1: Part of being a first rate NFL quarterback is to

1805
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: overcome when people think you're ruined. Oh you can't do that,

1806
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 1: or you might not be able to do that, and

1807
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: you overcome that, right, you played better? Yeah, you don't.

1808
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: Just I don't. The media is not going to force

1809
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: somebody out of the league. And I'm not worried about

1810
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: a guy somebody out of the league. I'm not worried

1811
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: about it better. Yeah, I'm not worried about a guy

1812
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 1: getting his feelings hurt. I'm not getting worried about a

1813
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: guy getting his ego bruised. I'm not worried about a

1814
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: guy going out there and playing like Nathan Peterman did.

1815
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 1: And because we saw it, Nathan Peterman couldn't have been

1816
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 1: worse at times when he played here, and he fought

1817
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: back and earned the trust of the coaching staff, and

1818
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: you know that's the kind of that's what players do. Um.

1819
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: I don't think players get ruined because of what happens

1820
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: inside of them. I think they get ruined by what

1821
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: people think of them outside. I think they get ruined

1822
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: by the bad team around them. They get ruined by

1823
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: or an injury or something like that. And um, like

1824
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: I've said before, the injury stuff you can't get away from.

1825
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get away from it by sitting him

1826
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 1: on the bench because you could sit him on the

1827
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 1: bench for fifteen years. And you know what's a get

1828
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 1: yet nothing. You gotta play. And so I'm I'm not

1829
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: worried about Josh Allen getting thrown out on a bad

1830
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: offense and having it somehow scar him for his future

1831
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. You gotta be better than that, not

1832
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: think that's absolutely all right to break care. When we

1833
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna be talking with Great co Sell

1834
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 1: from NFL Matchup on the ESPN, plus more of your

1835
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 1: phone calls who belongs in the Pro Bowl from the

1836
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. All of that in the third and final

1837
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: hour of the show, One Bill's Live, presented a by

1838
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: Kalaida Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills

1839
01:32:47,640 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 1: reading Hello, Bills Radio Network. Sports update comes from one

1840
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Bills Drive, where it is very quiet now. This week

1841
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: players are gone. The Bills players have off until next week.

1842
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: The bye week's coming up this weekend. No Bills game

1843
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: this week. There next game is Sunday, November twenty fifth

1844
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Bills kicker Stephen Houske has been

1845
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 1: named the AFC Special Teams Player of the Week for

1846
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: his performance in the forty one to ten win over

1847
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: the Jets. Houski with two field goals in that game,

1848
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: including a season long fifty four yard or five extra

1849
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: points houseca currently tied for the fifth highest field goal

1850
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 1: percentage in the NFL. He said fifteen consecutive field goal attempts.

1851
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: He missed his first attempt in the opener in Baltimore,

1852
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: has not missed yet since then. This is howskis third

1853
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: time winning the Special Team's Player of the Week award,

1854
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 1: the second time with the Bills. Wide receiver Tourell Prior

1855
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: was released from the Buffalo roster yesterday, just two weeks

1856
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: after he was signed. He appeared in two games for

1857
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 1: the Bills, against the Bears and then against the Jets.

1858
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,719
Speaker 1: This past week. He caught two passes against the Chicago

1859
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: Bears for seventeen yards. Did not get to catch at

1860
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: all against the Jets last week. The Bills added some

1861
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: youth and speed to their roster at the wide receiver spot,

1862
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 1: including second year player Isaiah McKenzie and rookie Robert Foster.

1863
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: The Bills were Terrelle Pryor's fourth team over the last

1864
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: three seasons. Also, the Bills added a cornerback to their

1865
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: practice squad yesterday, Denzel Rice, most recently with Cleveland, where

1866
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: he played eight games this year. He's now on the

1867
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's practice squad, A former undrafted rookie free agent

1868
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: from the Philadelphia Eagles. The Raven's not sure about their

1869
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: quarterback situation going into their game coming up this weekend

1870
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. Lamar Jackson doesn't know who's going to start

1871
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback, but he says he's prepared. Joe Flacco is

1872
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: dealing with a hip injury. Flacco did not speak to

1873
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: reporters today, and head coach John Harbow declined to talk

1874
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 1: about his quarterback situation. His teammates say Lamar Jackson, first

1875
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: round pickup Louisville, has more confidence in the offense at

1876
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: this point in his regular season and is ready to go.

1877
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: And the Buffalo Sabers came up with another win last

1878
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 1: night at two one victory at key Bank Center over

1879
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Sabers now four on one on their last

1880
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: five and they hit the road for the next three

1881
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: games starting on Friday. That's the update from One Bills Drive.

1882
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,640
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker our number three and joining us

1883
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier this week. Happy to have great

1884
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 1: co sell on the line with US NFL matchup ESPN.

1885
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: He is analysts and executive producer. He's also a senior

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Speaker 1: producer at NFL Films. Greg, Welcome to Buffalo. Good to

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Speaker 1: have you on the air with us today. How are

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Speaker 1: you hey. Has it been snowing up there? Ed Murrah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got a little snow. Yeah, we like it. Steve

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Speaker 1: and I were talking about it earlier. Just a little

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Speaker 1: bit of snow. Just to keep you honest up here.

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Speaker 1: I guess if you live in Buffalo, you're better like

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Speaker 1: it or you're gonna have a tough time. That's correct,

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Speaker 1: You're right. Tell ubout. Going to the hockey game last night,

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Speaker 1: Steve made it from his house, but twenty two miles

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Speaker 1: away from the arena. I was a Yeah, I'm from

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Speaker 1: Southtowntown in Orchard Park, just east of Orchard Park. We

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Speaker 1: went all the way downtown, parked, got into the arena.

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Speaker 1: We left at seven oh one, made a seven thirties

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Speaker 1: puck drop and still got to watch the anthems. That's

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Speaker 1: why we like Buffalo. See that's awesome. Yeah it was.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty awesome, and the team won, so that's

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Speaker 1: even a bigger bonus. So that's why we were living

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Yeah, well, what do you guys? We got

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Speaker 1: to talk about that explosive Bill's offense. That's why I

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Speaker 1: would talk a little bit of Matt Barkley showed up

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Speaker 1: in a big way fifteen to twenty five to thirty

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Speaker 1: two and a couple of touchdowns, and nobody was more

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Speaker 1: surprised than Murph and I. I thought you were gonna

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Speaker 1: say nobody was more surprised than Matt Barkley. Yeah, maybe, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what I gotta tell you. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was really interesting, and I actually loved Brian Dable's approach,

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Speaker 1: putting a quarterback out there and being aggressive. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously the first play of the game. I love what

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Speaker 1: they did six a line personnel and throw the ball,

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Speaker 1: you know, show a run personnel package and a run formation,

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Speaker 1: and then attacked down the field. And Murph, I think

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Speaker 1: we talked about Robert Foster in the preseason and I

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Speaker 1: remember mentioning to you that I thought he had explosiveness

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Speaker 1: and I liked him. And I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: I know he got cut and then resigned, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, And you know they went to him

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Speaker 1: early in preseason deep passes. Josh Ellen tried to get

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Speaker 1: to him and he just couldn't catch the ball. He

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Speaker 1: was opening even sometimes and he had great separation, but

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Speaker 1: couldn't catch it. I'm glad they gave him another chance

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Speaker 1: and a pay. And obviously, hey, Steve will tell you

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Speaker 1: that catching the ball is pretty important for a receiver.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, he's an explosive kid. He's got

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Speaker 1: a long, lanky build. He can get on top of corners.

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Speaker 1: I mean, keep in mind that first play, it was

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Speaker 1: Trumaine Johnson. He was playing with a cushion, he was

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Speaker 1: a bald corner, and he showed that tremendous burst late

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Speaker 1: in the route with the ball in the air, and

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Speaker 1: that was about as good a throw as you could make.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Barkley dropped it right in the bucket. And then,

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Speaker 1: of course the second play of the game, I think

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Speaker 1: they went no huddle tempo and if I recall and

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Speaker 1: the Jets were not set, yeah, you're right, and they

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Speaker 1: did catch him off guard. Two plays seventy five yards

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Speaker 1: and a touchdown. I think it was a concerted effort

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Speaker 1: on the Bills. Not only with Foster on the field,

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Speaker 1: they also got a little spark from Isaiah mackenzie, who

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Speaker 1: had four punt returns, but he also had a couple

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Speaker 1: of carries on those end of rounds. It reminded me

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Speaker 1: a little bit of what the Chiefs are doing. They're

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Speaker 1: forcing the Jets to guard the line of scrimmage from

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Speaker 1: sideline to sideline. Well, it's funny you say that, because

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things you really notice in

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Speaker 1: the NFL now, and let's say you look at two

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Speaker 1: teams that do it totally differently, but they do it

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Speaker 1: are the Chiefs and the Rams. And what they do

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Speaker 1: is they expand you horizontally and they stretch you vertically,

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Speaker 1: and that creates Steve a ton of space in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field for what would be by NFL standards,

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Speaker 1: relatively easier throws. And I think you sort of have

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Speaker 1: to do that in today's NFL. And I remember when

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Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie came out of Georgia, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who thought that that would be a kind

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Speaker 1: of role he could have. No Tyreek Hill wasn't Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill at that point, so there was no comparison to

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Speaker 1: be made, and there may not be one to be made.

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Speaker 1: But he's that kind of player who you can use

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Speaker 1: on jet sweep action. You can probably use them on

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Speaker 1: certain kinds of routes as a receiver, certainly the screen game,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver screen game. He can add a little

1967
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Speaker 1: juice to your offense. With Greg Cosell from an NFL

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Speaker 1: matchup and great you talked about Brian Dables, I guess

1969
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Speaker 1: more created more aggressive play calling. What gets a team

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Speaker 1: to that position? Is it desperation? Is it failure? What

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Speaker 1: gets a team to the point where they're confident enough

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Speaker 1: to make those sort of play calls and and throw

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Speaker 1: to you know, a tackle lined up on the outside. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think with the Bills, it's

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Speaker 1: a case that they needed something to jump start an

1976
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Speaker 1: offense that, as you guys know better than I has

1977
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Speaker 1: certainly not been very good. I mean, I think they've

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Speaker 1: had numerous games this year where they haven't got over

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Speaker 1: gotten over ten points, isn't that correctly? Yeah, they're averaging

1980
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Speaker 1: about ten per game going into that one. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think, you know, you get

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Speaker 1: a new quarterback, you give them some confidence during the

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Speaker 1: week is you're game planning and you know, you basically

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Speaker 1: are telling him, hey, we're gonna let you you know

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Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, We're gonna let you throw it. And

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Speaker 1: they came out. They were very aggressive with first and

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Speaker 1: ten passing, both to start possessions and within possessions. Clearly

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Speaker 1: game plan. I mean, I think about the Jones thirty

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Speaker 1: three yard or which started the fourth possession. I really

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Speaker 1: liked that concept. It was kind of like a drag

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Speaker 1: wheel concept. It was really well designed, well done, tough

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Speaker 1: to defend. But I mean they were aggressive with the

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Speaker 1: pass game. Yeah. I think one of the things I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get deeper into you talk about the game plan,

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Speaker 1: about Brian Dayball's creative play calling. You know, they threw

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Speaker 1: the the tackle eligible play for the touchdown to Dion Dawkins.

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Speaker 1: And also not that it's the same play call or

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Speaker 1: it's not, but you know, they throw a fake punt

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Speaker 1: in that's successful on fourth down. And then I think

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Speaker 1: one of the I think one of the backbreakers for

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Speaker 1: the Jets was the third and twenty they picked up

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Speaker 1: on a long call down the sideline. You know, plays

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Speaker 1: like that where the Jets finally get a little something

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Speaker 1: positive happening and the Bills snap it off with a

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Speaker 1: you know, a twenty eight or twenty thirty eight yard

2006
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Speaker 1: pass play on a third and twenty. I mean, those

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Speaker 1: are the plays that really kill you. That was actually

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Speaker 1: forty three yards Steve right, And there's an example when

2009
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Speaker 1: you know things are going well because actually that was

2010
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Speaker 1: another case where Foster ran by the corner that was

2011
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Speaker 1: Clayborne that time, and the ball was underthrown by a

2012
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Speaker 1: decent amount and actually Foster made an excellent competitive catch

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Speaker 1: because he sort of had to stop for the ball

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Speaker 1: and go up with Clayborne. But no, those kinds of

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Speaker 1: plays are are you know, they're just really disheartening for

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Speaker 1: a defense. And you know the other play that I

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Speaker 1: really liked too, again and you're you're helping to define

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Speaker 1: the reads for your quarterback was when they hit Andre

2019
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Speaker 1: Holmes for twenty two yards on the play action boot

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Speaker 1: to his left, a really nicely designed play what we

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Speaker 1: call a flood concept, a three level stretch. You know,

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Speaker 1: a play like that, you're you're making it a half

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Speaker 1: field read, which is what a flood concept is. So

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Speaker 1: you're you're defining it nicely for Barkley and just I

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Speaker 1: thought they did a really nice job with their concepts.

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously, when you throw the ball deep

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Speaker 1: and it's effective, that changes the entire look of your

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Speaker 1: offense on the line with Greg Cosell, Analysts, executive producer

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Speaker 1: of NFL Matchup on ESPN, longtime senior producer at NFL Films,

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Speaker 1: and Greg, you recall what you thought about Matt Barkley

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Speaker 1: back in twenty thirteen when he came into the league

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Speaker 1: as a fourth rounder and how did he measure up,

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Speaker 1: you know, by comparison last Sunday. I do remember what

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Speaker 1: I said, and in fact, I took a lot of

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Speaker 1: grief for it Murph at the time, because if you

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Speaker 1: recall after his junior year, there were people who said

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Speaker 1: he'd be a first pick and a draft type player,

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Speaker 1: and he never went through the draft process because he

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Speaker 1: had that big announcement that he was staying in in December.

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Speaker 1: So when he came out the next year, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just being honest with you, that's the only one that

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Speaker 1: had to be. I didn't think he had an NFL

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Speaker 1: starting skill set. And I was doing a show I

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Speaker 1: remember on the NFL network and got asked point blank

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Speaker 1: where I thought he'd be drafted, And this was about

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Speaker 1: a month before the draft, and I said, oh, I

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Speaker 1: thought he was about a fourth round type prospect. And

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Speaker 1: he ended up going in the fourth round, by the way.

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Speaker 1: But for two weeks I just got vilified because he

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Speaker 1: was a four year starter at USC. He broke all

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Speaker 1: the records. But the reality is, and it takes nothing

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Speaker 1: away from what he did this week, although he easily

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Speaker 1: could have thrown two picks by the way this week,

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Speaker 1: But the reality is that he's got limited arm strength.

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Speaker 1: He's a touch thrower. He struggles to drive the ball

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Speaker 1: with the truly needed velocity. He's kind of a timing

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Speaker 1: and rhythm soft tosser. And if you can be aggressive

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Speaker 1: with that and stay ahead of the chains and be

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Speaker 1: effective and your defense can play well, can he line

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Speaker 1: up and play for you for a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you start getting into games where he has to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball a lot, and this is what happens.

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Speaker 1: The more he plays, his limitations start to become more pronounced.

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Speaker 1: So the Sean McDermott decision an announcement Monday that when

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is healthy, he will be the starter. That

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Speaker 1: probably did not strike you as a surprise at all.

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Speaker 1: That No, No, in fact, Josh Allen, we don't need

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Speaker 1: to discuss that further. They trade it up to get him.

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Speaker 1: He should take every snap that he's healthy. He needs repetitions.

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Speaker 1: He needs to play football in the NFL. So no

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Speaker 1: matter what Barkeley did, and take nothing away from Barkley,

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Speaker 1: you give him a ton of credit for just getting

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Speaker 1: in there and being ready and obviously working well with

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Speaker 1: Dable and putting together that game plan that he executed.

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Speaker 1: But when Josh Allen's ready to play, he needs to

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Speaker 1: take the snaps. Yeah, and with Matt Barkley playing as

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Speaker 1: well as he did during the game as surprisingly, so

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Speaker 1: Zay Jones had a breakout game as first as a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver the Buffalo Bills. Robert Fosters we talked about,

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Speaker 1: had a couple of big plays to contribute. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Leshaun McCoy got his first hundred yard game of the season,

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff seems to happen on the same day,

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Speaker 1: which makes everything seem brighter, I think, and maybe exaggerates

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Speaker 1: the success they had or what we could look for

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Speaker 1: in the future. Well, I was really happy to see

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Speaker 1: McCoy have a nice game because I think he's a

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Speaker 1: really talented runner. I mean, obviously we talked about the

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Speaker 1: first touchdown on the second play, which was a tempo

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Speaker 1: thing and they weren't ready. But I thought his twenty

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Speaker 1: three yarder later in the game was I guess it

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Speaker 1: was second quarter, late in the second quarter. To me,

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Speaker 1: that was vintage McCoy because Jamal Adams penetrated right away

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Speaker 1: into the backfield and he made a miss just with

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Speaker 1: that quickness that he has, that lateral quickness and explosiveness.

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Speaker 1: And I've always thought McCoy was a really, really good

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Speaker 1: good runner. But just to one final point about Barkley,

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Speaker 1: I think that he does have experience playing in this league,

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Speaker 1: and I thought his eight yard touchdown to Jones was

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Speaker 1: really good quarterbacking because the read was to the other

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Speaker 1: side of the field. And it wasn't there, and he

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Speaker 1: came back. He sort of navigated the pocket and went

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Speaker 1: backside to Jones, who was who found a void in

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Speaker 1: the coverage. And that was really high level quarterbacking. That's

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Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback understanding what he didn't have and then

2105
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Speaker 1: what he did have. Hey, Greg, we talked every week

2106
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Speaker 1: about the Bills, and we talked a lot about quarterbacks

2107
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Speaker 1: and usually offensive failures. I can't recalls talking much about

2108
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo defense and how good they've been there. Number

2109
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Speaker 1: one in the NFL right now. I wonder what you

2110
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Speaker 1: see schematically from the Buffalo defense. It may have allowed

2111
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Speaker 1: them to make such a dramatic up. They were twenty

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Speaker 1: six in the league defensively a year ago. Now they're

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Speaker 1: number one. I would say some of that's a little misleading, Murph,

2114
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Speaker 1: because of the games they've been in. I think much

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Speaker 1: of that has to do with their past defense. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they give up two hundred yards passing per game,

2117
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Speaker 1: but they've been in a lot of games where they've

2118
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Speaker 1: been well behind, so teams are not throwing the football.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I'll say about their defense. And I've

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Speaker 1: always loved Sean that since he's been in Philadelphia because

2121
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Speaker 1: I got to know him here in Philly, and I

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Speaker 1: really like him as a coach. Very fundamentally sound defense.

2123
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Speaker 1: They're not a high, high percentage blitz defense. They selectively

2124
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Speaker 1: blitz and do it very well. I think this particular group,

2125
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Speaker 1: they're very deep at the defensive tackle position, which I

2126
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Speaker 1: think allows them to be good against the run. I

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Speaker 1: believe they allow less than a hundred yards or right

2128
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Speaker 1: around one hundred yards rushing per game. You know, I

2129
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Speaker 1: think they're secondary. They're two safeties. While you wouldn't call

2130
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Speaker 1: either one an explosive athlete the way we think of

2131
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: some of the high high level safeties. But I think

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Speaker 1: Poyer and High are really sound players who both can

2133
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:08,600
Speaker 1: play single high, both can play in the box. I

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Speaker 1: think they have a good feel for angles. I think

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Speaker 1: they have a good feel for routes. I just think

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Speaker 1: they're really sound players. And we've talked about Tradavious White

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Speaker 1: numerous times. I think he's developed into a really higher

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Speaker 1: level matchup corner. Are there any the defensive players We've

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Speaker 1: been asking this of our listeners today, There any the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo defensive players individually who stand out at their position.

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Speaker 1: I think White does for sure. I'll tell you who

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Speaker 1: I think has had a very good year is Matt Milano.

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Speaker 1: And I think in today's NFL, when you play so

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Speaker 1: much nickel and they're a nickel team, they don't play

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they played diame at all, they're

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Speaker 1: a nickel defense in their sub package. I think Matt

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Speaker 1: Milano has stood out. I think he fits today's NFL.

2148
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: He's an undersized linebacker and he can run, he can cover.

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Speaker 1: I think he flashes on tape. He shows up great.

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Speaker 1: Go Sell is our guest analysts executive producer of NFL

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01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,719
Speaker 1: Matchup on the ESPN. The matchup that people have pointed

2152
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Speaker 1: towards for weeks now is the Chiefs and the Rams.

2153
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 1: Now that game's in Los Angeles. But how many points

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01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna be scored in this game? Is this going

2155
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: to be a shootout? What you think on Monday night?

2156
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Speaker 1: I guess somebody told them, because I don't follow this,

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01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: that it's the highest over under it. I don't even

2158
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: know what that stuff means, but it's the highest in

2159
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Speaker 1: NFL history. So my guess is there will be a

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Speaker 1: lot of points scored. And what's fascinating to me is

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Speaker 1: these are two teams that are very explosive offensively, and

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Speaker 1: I think they're the league leaders and explosive plays offensively,

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Speaker 1: that do it in totally different ways. And that's fascinating

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01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 1: to me because the Chiefs do it with a lot

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Speaker 1: of different personnel packages, a lot of different formation usage,

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Speaker 1: shift motions, whereas the Rams they pretty much line up

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01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 1: with what we call eleven personnel three wide receivers on

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Speaker 1: literally every play. I think it's something like ninety seven

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01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 1: percent of their snaps, and they don't really move people

2170
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 1: around that much. They do jet sweep action a lot,

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01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 1: which is very effective, but they're not that multiple formation wise.

2172
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Speaker 1: So you have two teams that go about creating and

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01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 1: producing explosive plays in the past game very differently. I'm

2174
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Speaker 1: headed to Baltimore for the Cincinnati Bengals game in Baltimore,

2175
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 1: John Harball, it looks like you know that his time

2176
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 1: in Baltimore may be coming to a close at the

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Speaker 1: end of this season, and now with Joe Flacco maybe

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Speaker 1: not practicing with a hip injury, they may be forced

2179
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: to turn to Lamar Jackson. What do you expect to

2180
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: happen there? Well, if Lamar plays, you mean Steve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you'll see a lot of what you know,

2182
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:45,599
Speaker 1: what you saw in college. I think you'll see him

2183
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of the running dimensions, with the readoption,

2184
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,839
Speaker 1: you know, those kinds of things. Whether you see RPOs,

2185
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: you might see that as well, things that he's comfortable with.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll try to define the throws for him

2187
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 1: relative quickly so that he's not back there because what

2188
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 1: will happen. I think you'll see him run a lot

2189
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 1: as well, because I think there will be plays where

2190
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 1: he drops back and doesn't see it yet it won't

2191
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 1: be clear for him, So I think he will run

2192
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Speaker 1: a lot. They're playing against the Bengals defense, and I

2193
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Speaker 1: don't know if you've studied him yet, that has all

2194
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 1: kinds of issues at the linebacker position. I don't know

2195
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 1: if Nick Vigil's back, he's really their only good coverage linebacker,

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01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 1: and without him, that's a real weakness in their defense.

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Speaker 1: They do not have a coverage linebacker. So there's Cincinnati

2198
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 1: has some issues defensively. I know they fired their decoordinator.

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Speaker 1: If he was fired just because of what happens to

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01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 1: the against the Saints, I think that's a little unfair,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure there are other things going on there,

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Speaker 1: and Greg, you're right there in Philadelphia where folks are

2203
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 1: starting to worry. I think a little bit about the

2204
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 1: Eagles and now they get to go up against Drew

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01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 1: Brees and the Saints this week. What do you see

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01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 1: going on in Philadelphia? And what kind of a chance

2207
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 1: would they have against New Orleans the way they're putting

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01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 1: up points right now. Well, I think they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to score. I mean, you know, they have a lot

2210
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Speaker 1: of injuries on defense themselves, and we're not sure about

2211
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 1: their corner position this week. Last week they ended playing

2212
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 1: a free agent at corner on one side in Russel Douglas,

2213
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Speaker 1: a third round pick from a few years ago who's

2214
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 1: not a starter. On the other side, they have a

2215
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: ton of injuries there. So they're not going to win

2216
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 1: this game thirteen ten. So they're gonna have to score.

2217
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: And I think the nature of their offense is it's

2218
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: it's not really a big play offense given the weapons

2219
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: they have, so they're going to have to try to

2220
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 1: manufacture some explosive plays. You know, we talked about the

2221
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 1: Bills coming out using six old linemen and trying to

2222
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 1: like I said, orchestrate and manufacture big plays in the

2223
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 1: past game. I think the Eagles are going to have

2224
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,640
Speaker 1: to try to do the same thing. One of the

2225
01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 1: get teams I wanted to ask you about it, the

2226
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: flying a little bit under the radar because you know

2227
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 1: they don't really have a home field, and that's the

2228
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 1: LA Chargers there. Are they good enough? Do they have

2229
01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:00,640
Speaker 1: the horses? With Melvin Gordon and Philip Rivers the way

2230
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: he's playing, can they catch the Chiefs and win the

2231
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: West or are they just gonna have to be happy

2232
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: with a wildcard birth If they can continue to win games, well,

2233
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 1: I think when all said and done, if you play

2234
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and then based on what we've seen this year,

2235
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: it's another game where you're not going to win that

2236
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 1: game seventeen thirteen, so you have to score. I think

2237
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:24,719
Speaker 1: the Chargers can score. They've got three big wide receivers

2238
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: who can win one on one matchups. A team like

2239
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they play a lot of man. That's going

2240
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Speaker 1: to be a Thursday night game in coming weeks and

2241
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. But I think they can score.

2242
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 1: They've got Melvin Gordon, who's a multidimensional back. He's very

2243
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 1: good in the past game. So I think that they

2244
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 1: theoretically any given week and put up points. They don't

2245
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:50,679
Speaker 1: do that like the Chiefs do. They're not that kind

2246
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: of offense schematically, but they they'll they're capable Steve of

2247
01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 1: doing that. Hey, great, thanks for this, Thanks for going

2248
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 1: earlier with us this week, and we'll talk again next week.

2249
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 1: I hope we appreciate you being with us here today.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks great.

2251
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: Go Salis Analysts, executive producer of NFL Matchup on ESPN.

2252
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 1: You can catch it Saturday and Sunday mornings on ESPN.

2253
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 1: Longtime senior producer for NFL Films, and typically we talked

2254
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 1: to him Fridays. We don't have a show on Friday,

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Speaker 1: so we talked to him today. It was good. It's good,

2256
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:22,799
Speaker 1: kind of a mid week without the intensity of the Friday,

2257
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, on Friday, Friday on a Wednesday. There you go.

2258
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 1: We're doing it. So we're back with Morning to Moment

2259
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: with John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills Live from One

2260
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Everybody here. It's

2261
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 1: pretty excited about the upcoming days off. Some of them

2262
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 1: have already check checked out. It appears. Why do I

2263
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: have this laptop sitting here? Welcome to the show, One

2264
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. It's a decent day

2265
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 1: here in CHR Park. I'm not counting on the weather

2266
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: to get me through the next four days though, Steve right,

2267
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 1: you can't count on the weather this time of year.

2268
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be dark, it's gonna be cold. Probably gonna

2269
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 1: need the weather to be happy. Come home, man, that's

2270
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 1: why we're here. That's right. Hey, um, we're talking about

2271
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:14,680
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Voting is open for the Pro Bowl.

2272
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:17,840
Speaker 1: You have until December thirteenth. It's fan votes, it's coaches votes,

2273
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 1: it's player votes, and the fans get a third of it,

2274
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 1: at least that's what they tell us. What do you

2275
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 1: think Buffalo Bills? Who belong in the Pro Bowl? That's

2276
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today. Got pretty good response on this.

2277
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 1: Most of the folks are responding to defensive players. Obviously,

2278
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 1: Which Bills player would you vote for to make the

2279
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl? Right now? Fifty six percent of you say

2280
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 1: it would be Tredavious White. Nineteen percent of you see

2281
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 1: it would be Steven Houshka eighteen percent would vote for

2282
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, eight percent have somebody else in mind. We

2283
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 1: got eleven hundred votes in so far and upticking the

2284
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 1: votes for Jerry Hughes after we did that segment a

2285
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: few minutes ago. See, we are influence makers here. Have

2286
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,959
Speaker 1: we convinced me Jerry Hughes. I think it is underrated

2287
01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and around the league. And what a great year.

2288
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 1: He's had a really good, solid year for the number

2289
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: one defensive league. What do you think of Greg saying

2290
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 1: the number one defensive ranking is uh? Misleading? Because why

2291
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 1: because because the teams are either way up and they

2292
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 1: don't try to move the football. I guess basically they're

2293
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 1: not trying to throw it around. That's for sure their

2294
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,839
Speaker 1: past defense. They don't face, for hom any past offenses

2295
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 1: deep in those games where they were down like they

2296
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: were too. Uh, Baltimore, I guess Indianapolis, those teams put

2297
01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: up points and yards though, yeah, yeah, I mean those

2298
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 1: count those forty seven points, those four hundred plus yards,

2299
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 1: those are count against the build. Bro, you're preaching the choir,

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01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 1: I hear you. I don't. I don't know about that.

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01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 1: I gotta think hard about that. But I think all, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it does. Probably those games getting out of hand does

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01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 1: affect those statistics in some way, shape or form. But

2304
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 1: to put a team like the Bills at number one, um, listen,

2305
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 1: they're throttling to people defensively. Yeah, they're a tough team

2306
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 1: to play against, and I think a lot of them.

2307
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: And let's not forget I said this before. Some of

2308
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 1: the points and some of the bad showings on the

2309
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 1: scoreboard for the Bills have been in large part because

2310
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 1: of the offense. You know, yeah, pick sixes and they're

2311
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 1: giving fumbles away, and they're you know, I mean, there's

2312
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: a lot of going wrong on that side of the

2313
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 1: ball at some certain points in it, you know, So

2314
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 1: that reflects poorly on the scoreboard without reflecting poorly on

2315
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 1: your defense. Take some phone calls on this question, which

2316
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: player would you vote for to make the Pro Bowl

2317
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: from the Bills? Bob on the line from Town, I

2318
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 1: wanna go ahead, Bob, Welcome to the show. Yeah, thank you,

2319
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Say first, you guys, I

2320
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 1: love your show. I watch you almost every day, and

2321
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 1: I think you're very fair. Steve. I want to tell

2322
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 1: you that I just want to thank you for all

2323
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 1: the entertaining play that you guys gave us when you

2324
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: were out there. I guess we'll never forget that. Thanks Bob.

2325
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: It's fun for me too. I just want to say,

2326
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 1: first of all, about your Pro Bowl picks, I agree

2327
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 1: with you one hundred percent. It's got to be defensive players. Obviously.

2328
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 1: I think if Micah Hyde might have been healthy for

2329
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 1: longer and had you know, a little more better play,

2330
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 1: he could be in that mix. But I think Milano

2331
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: to me and Hughes are the two best picks. I

2332
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 1: just wanted to say about about Allen playing very quickly

2333
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 1: that uh, you know, I don't think I don't think

2334
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 1: we can ruin him. I think he's got enough confidence

2335
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: to get through whatever he needs to get through in

2336
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 1: the learning process, and so I don't worry about that.

2337
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:30,240
Speaker 1: But I do worry about him just coming from an

2338
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 1: injury and maybe not taking a little more time to

2339
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: make one hundred percent sure that he's not going to

2340
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 1: go out there and get banged up again and have

2341
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 1: to sit out maybe even part of next year if

2342
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 1: he gets a serious injury. And I'd just like to

2343
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 1: say one more thing and then you guys can respond.

2344
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 1: Getting rid of irving getting rid of Prior, Darrell Prior

2345
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 1: without even giving him a chance to really play very much.

2346
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, but I think Kelvin Benjamin is a

2347
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 1: bust here. He's had a couple of good you know,

2348
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 1: series and things like that, but he's not a regular

2349
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 1: producing receiver. And I think Prior should have been given

2350
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 1: more of a chance maybe to take that spot, and

2351
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: that Benjamin should have been the one to go. Tell

2352
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:11,880
Speaker 1: me what you think about that. Okay, Bob, you know Stephen,

2353
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 1: I talked about this this morning about Prior. There's something

2354
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 1: The Bills were his fourth team in the last three years,

2355
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know what it is with him, why teams.

2356
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't come across as one of those guys like

2357
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 1: he can't stand on the show last week. I love

2358
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 1: the guy started rooting for him immediately. And there's another

2359
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 1: level of this, that of consideration when you talk about

2360
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin in that mix too. If it's not really

2361
01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 1: either or it's about picking the right players. And Calvin

2362
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 1: Benjamin is in all right, He's in the fifth year

2363
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 1: of his rookie deal. This is a contract year for him.

2364
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 1: Anything well, ye who, Well, here's the thing. If he

2365
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: comes out and goes free agent, signs someplace else, the

2366
01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 1: Bills will get a a compensatory draft pick if he is.

2367
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 1: They may. They may if he if he signs with

2368
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: another another player, another team. So that's you know, that's

2369
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking at. So, um, they may, they may,

2370
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 1: because it's a complicated formula involved in all of your

2371
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 1: free it's like the net gain or lots of you

2372
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 1: and it is the net gain. So they need a

2373
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 1: guy have a net because you know, the Bills with

2374
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 1: ninety five ninety five million dollars of cap money, they're

2375
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 1: going to go out and spend in free agency. So

2376
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 1: if they bring a bunch of free agents in they

2377
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 1: don't want to. They would like to have some free

2378
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,919
Speaker 1: agents they lose, and even particularly guys they don't want anyway,

2379
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:34,800
Speaker 1: so that would make their net better. And there's a

2380
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 1: chance they get a compensatory pick if they do it,

2381
01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 1: if they play it the right way. Um. There's also

2382
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 1: some guys on the team that have you know, those

2383
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, one um one year deals too, so if

2384
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 1: they lose any of those guys to free agency, that counts.

2385
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,280
Speaker 1: So all that goes into that. And I think that

2386
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 1: as much as anything affects Kelvin Benjamin's status on the team, because,

2387
01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 1: let's face it, he hasn't been productive in this season,

2388
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 1: not that everybody has. Not that everybody's been you know,

2389
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys who have you know, knocked

2390
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:07,440
Speaker 1: it out of the park. There hasn't been. So um.

2391
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 1: I think that's you know, I think that's the level

2392
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 1: of difficulty or the you know, the thing that adds

2393
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 1: them extra layer of complexity to Calvin Benjamin's presence on

2394
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 1: the team is the compensatory draft picks they get if

2395
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 1: he does indeed leave after the season, They may, they may.

2396
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 1: Joel and north Town, I want to hello, Joel, you're

2397
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 1: on the air, Hey, guys, I was just wondering if, um, so,

2398
02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 1: what happens if Barkley comes in and makes us look

2399
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:33,880
Speaker 1: like Drew Brees and the Saints like he did the

2400
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:36,600
Speaker 1: other day, and then Alan comes back and he makes

2401
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 1: us look like the Bills? What are they gonna do

2402
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,720
Speaker 1: when that happens? And I want to talk about the

2403
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 1: Sabers after that? Go ahead, go ahead? What if? What if? Well?

2404
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 1: You know, when when Josh Allen is healthy, he's going

2405
02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: to start, So what do you mean if Barkley comes in,

2406
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 1: Berkeley's already come in. The expectation is Josh going to

2407
02:00:57,120 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 1: be ready to go? Well, he's already had. Did he

2408
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:03,680
Speaker 1: look like Drew Brees and the Saints Sunday? Yeah? Pretty close.

2409
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think he played well.

2410
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:10,880
Speaker 1: He played well. Yeah, thanks for calling. Yeah, yeah enough.

2411
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:13,840
Speaker 1: You know, I'll talk about the neighbors. Yeah, tweets No,

2412
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:16,600
Speaker 1: nothing answer the Sabers. But there's a form for that

2413
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Rebecca subject. When we ask about which

2414
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 1: Bill's player would you vote for to make the Pro Bowl,

2415
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 1: she says, I think Matt Milano gets my vote. He's

2416
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 1: all over the field. He has sixty one tackles one second,

2417
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 1: two timely interceptions, eleven tackles for a loss. He's got

2418
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:32,760
Speaker 1: some numbers. He's got impactful plays too, which is what

2419
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 1: you and Greg go. So we're talking about He's made

2420
02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:37,600
Speaker 1: interceptions when they matter a couple of times, and I

2421
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:40,160
Speaker 1: think that counts. I think that really counts, right, Yeah,

2422
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:45,040
Speaker 1: I agree, Benjamin makes some splash plays. Milano. Milano makes

2423
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 1: splash plays. But um, and I think that's you know,

2424
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 1: that's what catches people on and that's what they vote for,

2425
02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 1: and there's no question about it. Evan Rainforth tweets and

2426
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 1: I would put my Pro Bowl vote in for Jerry Hughes.

2427
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:59,000
Speaker 1: He's been very disruptive on quarterbacks at one point leading

2428
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 1: the NFL and pressures. Done a great job of stepping

2429
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 1: up the season for this number one Bills defense. Yes,

2430
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 1: and from Chris votes other would love to see Kyle

2431
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:10,960
Speaker 1: Williams goal probably his last year playing Kyle. Other than that,

2432
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 1: definitely Tredevious White. I think White's the best candidate for

2433
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl on the Buffalo roster. I really do. Yeah,

2434
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 1: you got people chiming in with some things that are

2435
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:23,360
Speaker 1: specific to the Buffalo market. And from Brian Rosingha, he says,

2436
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 1: Zoe Lorenzo Alexander. He's brought along two greenies, which means

2437
02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 1: young players in Milano and Edmonds, and they're having stellar

2438
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 1: achievements themselves, let alone his own achievements and the team

2439
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 1: wide impact impact his veteran leadership brings. That's there's a

2440
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 1: lot of intangibles as Lorenzo Alexander brings to the Bills defense.

2441
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,680
Speaker 1: I think that all those young players like Milano and

2442
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:48,440
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds would acknowledge the contribution that Lorenzo has made.

2443
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you what, Lorenzo has been all over it. Now.

2444
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:53,240
Speaker 1: He's a spot player too. At this point he has

2445
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 1: not been playing a ton of snaps, but man o,

2446
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:57,240
Speaker 1: man is he making the most of the ones that

2447
02:02:57,320 --> 02:02:59,680
Speaker 1: he's in there on. Let's do NFL true and false.

2448
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:02,360
Speaker 1: It's to you a boy, Yancey's fancy New York's artists

2449
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:04,760
Speaker 1: and cheese. Here we go. True or false. The Saints

2450
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 1: are the best one lost team in the National Football League.

2451
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:10,560
Speaker 1: True false. You got the Rams with one loss, you

2452
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:12,840
Speaker 1: got the Saints with one loss, You got the Chiefs

2453
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:15,320
Speaker 1: with one loss. Of course, Saints are the best one

2454
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 1: lost team. Look that the Chiefs are flawed defensively. They

2455
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 1: clearly are, and that's gonna be something worth watching when

2456
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:25,640
Speaker 1: we get into December and January football. The Rams are good,

2457
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 1: really good, and they won huge games. They lost Cooper

2458
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:30,400
Speaker 1: Coup and we're gonna get to that in a moment.

2459
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 1: But I would say right now, the Saints are the

2460
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:34,320
Speaker 1: best one lost team and the best team overall in

2461
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. Steve, Yeah, I kind of have to agree

2462
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 1: with you, particularly since they beat them. You know, they

2463
02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:40,160
Speaker 1: had the head to head with the Rams and they

2464
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:44,040
Speaker 1: beat them. Correct. Yep, yeah, so I you know that's yeah.

2465
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:45,840
Speaker 1: You got to say the New Orleans Saints are at

2466
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 1: They're playing in a in a really tough conference and

2467
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,640
Speaker 1: a really tough division. They've got Caroline in their division

2468
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:56,280
Speaker 1: and with the Saints that they've played the Rams already,

2469
02:03:56,360 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, the Saints are really really a good

2470
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:02,520
Speaker 1: football team and they're hitting on all cylinders and their

2471
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:04,280
Speaker 1: defense is playing better than a day a year ago.

2472
02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:07,800
Speaker 1: NFL two or false Part two, Cooper Cup's injury will

2473
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:12,200
Speaker 1: not derail the Rams offense two or false. That's false. Yes,

2474
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: that's derail. I guess it's how you interpret that. But

2475
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna feel that. They're gonna feel the loss of

2476
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. I really believe that. I think that's false.

2477
02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 1: Now I think it's true. It will not derail it. Now,

2478
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that it'll derail. I think they'll keep

2479
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 1: smoking along. They've got enough weapons there and enough creativity offensively.

2480
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:31,839
Speaker 1: I've sat down in a production meeting with Sean McVeigh.

2481
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 1: They've got answers for everything that's happened to him, and

2482
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 1: I think Cooper Cup, while it is a loss. It

2483
02:04:37,160 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 1: is a talent, a gap that's going to be there

2484
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 1: between Cooper Cup and whoever comes off their roster to

2485
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,760
Speaker 1: replace him. They're gonna get some production out of those guys,

2486
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:47,880
Speaker 1: So I think it. They may feel it, but I

2487
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 1: don't think people like outside of the team will be

2488
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 1: able to feel his absence in Cooper Cup now, I

2489
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:54,920
Speaker 1: don't think, and I certainly don't think it'll show up

2490
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard. Finally, the NFL trur or false. You

2491
02:04:57,600 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 1: know that the league late yesterday move the game Mexico

2492
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:03,680
Speaker 1: City to Los Angeles. The Chiefs game against the Ram's

2493
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 1: going to be played in Los Angeles on Monday, a

2494
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 1: decision that did not sit well with Chiefs fans, many

2495
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:11,160
Speaker 1: of whom were already booked on flights to go to

2496
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 1: Mexico City, booked hotel rooms, hundreds of Chiefs fans getting

2497
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 1: ready to make the move. Fans should be frustrated after

2498
02:05:17,160 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 1: the NFL moves the Rams Chiefs game. True false. I'll

2499
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:22,240
Speaker 1: say too, it's probably not a ton of fans we're

2500
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna make the trip hundreds, it says, But you know,

2501
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 1: I understand the league trying to go international, trying to

2502
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 1: draw these major cities, London, in Mexico City in the

2503
02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:35,120
Speaker 1: last couple of years. But get it right, NFL, you know,

2504
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:37,920
Speaker 1: don't If you can't put a good field out there

2505
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:40,240
Speaker 1: in Mexico City, then wait till you can do it.

2506
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:43,160
Speaker 1: It's almost like the league can't get enough. You know,

2507
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 1: the league wants to eat before before the thing is

2508
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 1: set up. It's it's it's not a good look to

2509
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:50,000
Speaker 1: have a game schedule from Mexico City and then all

2510
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:51,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden you can't play there because the field

2511
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:53,360
Speaker 1: is not good. Not a good look for the league.

2512
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 1: It's it's greedy, quite frankly, it's hey, we need this money,

2513
02:05:57,480 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 1: we need to build it, we need this to add

2514
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:01,000
Speaker 1: this to our portfolio. Mexico City, Yeah, yeah, give us

2515
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,320
Speaker 1: Mexico City. You're not ready to play in Mexico City.

2516
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 1: It's a bad look. I do think fans should be frustrated,

2517
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 1: both in Kansas City and throughout the NFL. I think

2518
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 1: they can be frustrated, but I'm not going to be

2519
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:13,960
Speaker 1: frustrated with the NFL. The NFL gave them every opportunity. Listen,

2520
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 1: they had months to get ready for this. They had

2521
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 1: a concert on that thing. Have you seen that field.

2522
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 1: It looks like a goat pass. You don't think the

2523
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 1: NFL was telling them how to get ready Mexico in there,

2524
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 1: in there, the best stadium in Mexico, asked Tecca. They

2525
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:28,280
Speaker 1: can't put grass on it. They can't get that field

2526
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 1: ready for an NFL for anything. You couldn't have a

2527
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:34,720
Speaker 1: goat gathering on that thing. It's a dirt pad. And

2528
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:37,280
Speaker 1: you don't think anyone in the NFL should bear responsibility

2529
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,240
Speaker 1: for that. I do. They don't have the control over

2530
02:06:39,320 --> 02:06:42,880
Speaker 1: that stadium and they shouldn't play there. They aren't. They

2531
02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:45,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't even schedule a game there. They gave him effort two.

2532
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:46,840
Speaker 1: They said they could do it, and they couldn't. They

2533
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:50,320
Speaker 1: the NFL is not in control of that. Well, they

2534
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 1: need to be in control of that. Don't schedule a

2535
02:06:52,400 --> 02:06:54,320
Speaker 1: game in Mexico City unless you're sure you can pull

2536
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 1: it off. How hard is you can grow grass on

2537
02:06:56,640 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 1: a slice of bread. Couldn't do it. It's not the end.

2538
02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 1: It is the Come on, man, come on man. They

2539
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:07,320
Speaker 1: got they got a soccer team down in Mexico, they

2540
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: got all this stuff going on. They can't get the

2541
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 1: field ready. They know it's coming months has to answer

2542
02:07:12,080 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 1: for that. Somebody in the league office has to answer

2543
02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:16,560
Speaker 1: for this, and I bet, I would bet one hundred

2544
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:18,320
Speaker 1: dollars somebody in the league office are gonna be fired

2545
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:21,320
Speaker 1: because of that situation in Mexico City. How who was

2546
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 1: in charge? How could the stadium not be ready? That's

2547
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 1: your job. You're gone. I guarantee you. Those discussions are

2548
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 1: going on right now. Oh they've gone on a bet.

2549
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:31,560
Speaker 1: I bet they have, And maybe they are, but I

2550
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:34,880
Speaker 1: don't I don't hold they come on responsible. How do

2551
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 1: you think a venue that's held the Olympics can't grow grass?

2552
02:07:41,480 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, can't anticipate rock concert. And then they

2553
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 1: had a soccer field and then they had what they have,

2554
02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 1: a tractor pull on the things. Livestock show. Worried about

2555
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,680
Speaker 1: our game coming up next week next month. I'm worried

2556
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:56,760
Speaker 1: about our game. They did. It started coming out weeks ago.

2557
02:07:57,320 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 1: I never heard of this until this week. They were

2558
02:07:58,880 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 1: trying to put tarp. They guys down there are trying

2559
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 1: to work on it. Can't do it if unless you're

2560
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:04,960
Speaker 1: ready to hold a game there, don't even schedule a

2561
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:06,960
Speaker 1: game there. That's well, Mexico ain't gonna see the NFL

2562
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 1: for a while. You want to bet, I bet they

2563
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:11,800
Speaker 1: jump right back into something next year. I bet they do,

2564
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 1: because it's they don't leave any nickels on the table.

2565
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: There's a nickel there in Mexico, say to give me that.

2566
02:08:16,920 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 1: There's a nice So what are they so they're gonna

2567
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 1: they're not gonna leave a nickel on the table. You

2568
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:25,840
Speaker 1: think they're making more money not going down there. No,

2569
02:08:25,960 --> 02:08:27,960
Speaker 1: but they're trying to expland well, wait a minute, let

2570
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 1: me finish. They're drying to expand their market to Mexico.

2571
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 1: And now they won't be able to do this year. Yes,

2572
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 1: down the road, it's more money for the NFL and

2573
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:38,760
Speaker 1: cost them back. This cost set back, This cost them money.

2574
02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 1: Oh the NFL. Well, when they have a game like this,

2575
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:45,320
Speaker 1: cost them a ton of money, and it costs them

2576
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 1: a ton of good will, and it makes them look bad.

2577
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 1: To screw up for the NFL. I don't care how

2578
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 1: you pay screw up. It is a screw up for

2579
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. But that's what they get for trusting somebody. Well,

2580
02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 1: don't trust somebody, make sure there you go. Yeah, And

2581
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:59,000
Speaker 1: now next time when they don't trust somebody, you're gonna

2582
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:01,200
Speaker 1: rip them for that if they're wrong, I will. If

2583
02:09:01,200 --> 02:09:03,400
Speaker 1: they screwed up this bad I will. That's a bad look.

2584
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 1: It is a bad look. And I'm telling you what's

2585
02:09:05,240 --> 02:09:07,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost next time when they're gonna, they're gonna

2586
02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 1: Mexico is gonna be paying through the nose. We're taking

2587
02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 1: a break. One goes live from one Bill's Driving. This

2588
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:31,840
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio time. Now for what have we

2589
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:35,240
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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We had Bill Pauline on the

2593
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 1: show today, hall of famer, former Bills general manager, talk

2594
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:48,080
Speaker 1: to us about the Bills. Talked about talk to us

2595
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:51,080
Speaker 1: about a conversation he had earlier this week with Bill's

2596
02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 1: head coach Sean McDermott, offering advice for the Bill's head coach.

2597
02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:58,400
Speaker 1: I reached out every once in a while and talk

2598
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:02,160
Speaker 1: to Sean recently. Just wanted to congratulate him on on

2599
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:05,680
Speaker 1: how things were going. And you know, just from just

2600
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:08,560
Speaker 1: one man's perspective, just say, hey, things are headed in

2601
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:12,080
Speaker 1: the right direction. Don't be discouraged, don't don't not that

2602
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:15,320
Speaker 1: he ever is, but uh, you know, just just keep working.

2603
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:17,760
Speaker 1: You're on the right path. And to me, that's pretty

2604
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:22,360
Speaker 1: obvious that the record doesn't always indicate what's been going on.

2605
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 1: And if you look at how the team played last week,

2606
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:28,600
Speaker 1: we'll get how they played against New England and there

2607
02:10:28,720 --> 02:10:33,920
Speaker 1: they're really playing hard, they're playing smart. They just need

2608
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:37,560
Speaker 1: to get some playmakers on the offensive side of the ball.

2609
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:41,080
Speaker 1: Bill Polian kind of recapping the first ten games of

2610
02:10:41,120 --> 02:10:44,440
Speaker 1: the Bill season so far. Irvan Thomas joined us also today.

2611
02:10:44,480 --> 02:10:47,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas. He talked about Lashawan McCoy

2612
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 1: and his big bounce back game against the Jets last Sunday.

2613
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 1: It was great, you know, just to see him, you know,

2614
02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean, first time he's had a hundred yard games.

2615
02:10:56,800 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 1: This is what last year. And man's great to see him.

2616
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:04,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's always it's always good when you know

2617
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:07,760
Speaker 1: he could be on the timeline Smiley talking to a

2618
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:09,600
Speaker 1: lot of the players are just having a great time.

2619
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 1: He goes. You know, he's a focal part of the offense.

2620
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 1: Irman Thomas and thanks to him and to a great

2621
02:11:15,960 --> 02:11:17,720
Speaker 1: Gosl as well. Hey, we had a pretty good Twitter

2622
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 1: poll today as voting is open now for the Pro

2623
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:23,520
Speaker 1: Football what do we call it? The Probowl? Pro Bowl?

2624
02:11:23,560 --> 02:11:26,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for the Pro Bowl? Who do you think

2625
02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 1: from the Bills belongs in the Pro Bowl? And we

2626
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 1: had good response, and we kind of limited your choices

2627
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:34,640
Speaker 1: on the Twitter pole to the defensive side of the ball.

2628
02:11:34,720 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 1: And here's what we got on the Twitter pole. Which

2629
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:39,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills would you vote for to make the Pro Bowl?

2630
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:42,320
Speaker 1: Fifty six percent of you say Tredevious White can't argue

2631
02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 1: with that. Nineteen percent say the kicker. Stephen House got

2632
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:49,520
Speaker 1: eighteen percent say defensive linebacker, defensive end rather Jerry Hughes,

2633
02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 1: what's he called himself? Utility man? Seven percent to have

2634
02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:55,160
Speaker 1: something else in mine? Good, good response. We had a

2635
02:11:55,160 --> 02:11:57,040
Speaker 1: lot of response for Matt Malano too, who's had a

2636
02:11:57,200 --> 02:11:59,520
Speaker 1: pretty good year on defense. I don't it's hard to

2637
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:01,800
Speaker 1: find any Bunny on offense. You would say, merit's Pro

2638
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:05,320
Speaker 1: Bowl consideration, but at least three or four defensive players.

2639
02:12:05,800 --> 02:12:07,400
Speaker 1: And you can vote on the Pro Bowl too. There's

2640
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:09,320
Speaker 1: a fan vote and the voting remains open for a

2641
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:11,080
Speaker 1: couple of more weeks. Well, about a month more until

2642
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:14,280
Speaker 1: December thirteen. All right, plans you got a game? Yeah,

2643
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:16,120
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe you know, I should book a trip

2644
02:12:16,160 --> 02:12:19,440
Speaker 1: to La Monday night. Let's go to me. Let's pretend

2645
02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:21,400
Speaker 1: we can go see that game. That's not gonna We'll

2646
02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:23,480
Speaker 1: sit in the state. There's gotta be there's gotta be

2647
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 1: some hotel rooms open in Mexico City. Now, yeah, we'll

2648
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:27,800
Speaker 1: be able to get a cheap rate. All those NFL

2649
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:30,560
Speaker 1: rooms will be open. Actually, those people might be there

2650
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 1: after getting dismissed by the league office. They might get

2651
02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:37,320
Speaker 1: free vacation. May as we'll take the room. I don't know.

2652
02:12:37,400 --> 02:12:38,960
Speaker 1: I just think it's a bad look. I don't want it.

2653
02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:42,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you there, it is a bad look. Um,

2654
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:45,880
Speaker 1: four days before the game, four days here? Well maybe

2655
02:12:46,080 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 1: is it four days or five? Five, six days? It's

2656
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 1: it's bad. It's bad. And I saw some pictures of

2657
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:53,360
Speaker 1: the field, and I I mean, I agree. I mean

2658
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:55,440
Speaker 1: I played on fields worse than that in the NFL

2659
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:57,400
Speaker 1: back in the night early nineties when they were still

2660
02:12:57,480 --> 02:13:00,320
Speaker 1: using old Cleveland Stadium. It was a horrible service. They're

2661
02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:02,360
Speaker 1: past that now, they don't do that anymore. I wonder

2662
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:05,200
Speaker 1: what role the Players Association had in this. They've raised

2663
02:13:05,240 --> 02:13:07,440
Speaker 1: an objection. Yeah, I wonder good for them. Yeah, I

2664
02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:09,440
Speaker 1: wonder how much of a factor that was in making

2665
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 1: that decision to go to LA you know, I whatever.

2666
02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:15,200
Speaker 1: And when you think back to the incident at the

2667
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:16,720
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game a couple of years ago. But

2668
02:13:17,160 --> 02:13:18,920
Speaker 1: this is I don't think this is any small thing.

2669
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal. These international games are

2670
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of kind of the point of the spear of

2671
02:13:24,680 --> 02:13:27,280
Speaker 1: where the NFL's headed, you know, across the season in London,

2672
02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:29,560
Speaker 1: in Mexico City, they want to do this a lot,

2673
02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:32,160
Speaker 1: and I think it maybe it's this message sending to

2674
02:13:33,120 --> 02:13:35,000
Speaker 1: some other cities, or maybe they've gotten there in talks

2675
02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:37,200
Speaker 1: with some other countries about having it in there. Maybe

2676
02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:38,800
Speaker 1: it's a message to them saying, listen, we've got our

2677
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:41,200
Speaker 1: standards and you better so important then, how could no

2678
02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:43,480
Speaker 1: one from the NFL answer upward? How can that be

2679
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:46,680
Speaker 1: held accountable? Man, I bet somebody is ill. Bet you're right,

2680
02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:50,120
Speaker 1: somebody's somebody's gonna be right. I think you're right. Somebody's

2681
02:13:50,120 --> 02:13:52,680
Speaker 1: gonna be in trouble. But I don't know how much

2682
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,440
Speaker 1: they control that. They have to control it it's a bat.

2683
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:57,560
Speaker 1: You know, have a great weekend. We'll see you here

2684
02:13:57,600 --> 02:13:59,920
Speaker 1: on Monday. Having Yeah, man, you two have a great weekend.

2685
02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:02,160
Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, everybody. We're off for the Bible.

2686
02:14:02,160 --> 02:14:04,920
Speaker 1: We'll be back Monday at twelve noon. Our production assistants

2687
02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:08,200
Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Colton, Thomas Homelder, Kelly Rude, JJ Turto,

2688
02:14:08,520 --> 02:14:11,240
Speaker 1: Kevin Cargis, James Robolt, Our producer Jay Harris. We'll see

2689
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:13,640
Speaker 1: him Monday, twelve noon. One Bal's Live from One Bill's

2690
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:15,120
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