1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: On the Bechdecast, the questions asked if movies have women 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: or do they have individualism? It's the patriarchy, Zeffen, best 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: Hello, listeners, it's us. 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 3: Ever heard of us? This is a wild This is 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: a wild episode to introduce, not only because I think 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: it's one of our most if not our most chaotic 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: live episode to date, but it also took place five 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: full months ago, so you're kind of being introduced to 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: past versions of ourselves. Who knows so much just happened? 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: Someonech has taken place since this historic episode. 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: Was recorded, but uh so true. 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: We were waiting for the summer to release it because 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: it just feels like a summary episode. Even though we 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: recorded it in February. You clicked on it, you know 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: what it is. We covered the Hannah Montana movie with 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: Robert Evans in front of a live studio audience, and 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: I threw a knife into the audience by accident. 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: Yes, which we don't really acknowledge, at least verbally as 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: it happened on stage. But here's the thing. We live 22 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: streamed that show and you can still buy like on 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: demand tickets for it. So if you want to see 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: the moment where Jamie, I think you're just sort of 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: like jokingly like waving around this. It was like a 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: knife in its case, but it also had smaller knives inside. 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: Literally I was like, of course, of course, where I 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: had four or five knives in a single sheath question mark. 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: I'd assumed it was just the one like machete, but no, 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: there were also the machete also had sons. I didn't know. 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: All knife stories are about fathers and arts. 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 5: And we've been talking about this for years. 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I did throw a knife into 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: the audience. I will say quick update. 35 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 4: I don't even think I've. 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: Told you this, Caitlin, that the person who I almost 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: hit with a knife, it fell at their feet. It 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: wasn't like a you know, missed their head or anything 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: like that. But again, this is it's such a. 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: Weird plug for. 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: Buying the live stream to be like, watch, I almost 42 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: really hurt somebody, but you can see it in the 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: live stream either way. They came to a book promo 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: show I did at the same venue, Curious Comedy Theater 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: in Portland several months later and we had a good 46 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: laugh about Knifegate, so it's all good. I just wanted 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: to say that at the top. And also just this 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: episode was so I mean, this episode was so fun 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: for a lot of reasons, but mainly because I think 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: it's fun because our show has been on for so 51 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: long now that we've like teased the fact that we 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: would someday do this episode for probably for three or 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: four years. 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 6: Many years, yes, many moons, a lot of sunrise, is 55 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 6: a lot of sunsets since we've been threatening to do 56 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 6: this episode and we did, and it is It was 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 6: everything I dreamed and a knife attack. 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: Yes, it was such a treat to do. We had 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: so much fun and there was a knife but everyone survived. 60 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: And also another reason to check out the live stream 61 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: if you want to do that, either instead of or 62 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: in addition to listening to the audio only episode boring. 63 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: But look, we're wearing wigs. 64 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: Okay, oh I forgot we were wearing We are wearing wigs. 65 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: Our wigs kept falling off, and that's visual comedy is 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: Robert Evans also wears a wig. You'll see all of 67 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: the knives that he brought to this stage and doled out. 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: To Sophie's there, Sophie. 69 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: Sophie came on stage. It was and you can also 70 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: see an argument between another person who came to the 71 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: rat Dog Show as well. At some point, I accidentally 72 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 3: encouraged Robert and an audience member to get into a 73 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: fight about chickens or farms. 74 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 4: I don't know, eggs. 75 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: It's specifically the number of eggs that get produced. We 76 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: cut it out of the episode because it just didn't 77 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: translate very well to the audio medium. But but you 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: can watch that. It's extremely stressful to There's also a 79 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: horny looking corn dog apparently or a hot I don't know. 80 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: There's there's a very phallic hot dog. 81 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that was huge. 82 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 5: It was massive. 83 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: Got this show really it's really taking me back to 84 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: a simpler time. But it was an altogether menacing night 85 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 3: and I loved every. 86 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 4: Second of it. 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: Delightful. 88 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: So take a trip memory lane with us, and let's 89 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: check out the Hannah Montana movie with of course Robert Evans. 90 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, you love him from behind the 91 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: bastards from it could happen here from all cool Zone 92 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 3: media endeavors. And you know, if you're listening to this show, 93 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: you know who Robert is. We love Robert to death 94 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: and we have been waiting to I mean, and as 95 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 3: you know, it's a rare privilege for men to be 96 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: on the show. 97 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: It's true. 98 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: So he paid us for that. No, I'm kidding, he didn't. 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: We did pay him anyways, and we wanted to plug again. 100 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: This actually for those trying to do Bechdle cast continuity. 101 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: This was recorded the same night of our show with 102 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: Sarah Marshall at Curious Comedy with our Goonies episode, and 103 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: we were so lucky to partner with Curious Comedy again. 104 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: So we just wanted to shout out everyone there and yeehaw, bitch, 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: enjoy the episode. 106 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: Enjoy. 107 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 8: Welcome everybody the Curious Comedy Theater. Make some noise for 108 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 8: the Bechdel cast. Please keep it going for Jamie and Caitlin. 109 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: The ptr Zephyn bast start changing. 110 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 5: With the cast. 111 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: Wow, welcome, we've changed. 112 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 5: The show is pivoted hard okay, Hi, Oh, you're just 113 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 5: gonna be yourself Okay, I guess we hadn't pre planned 114 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 5: a bit. Sorry, my han's gonna be slipping and sliding 115 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: off this very real hair. 116 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: We we should come up with alter ego names for us. Yes, 117 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: such as Kate Lanna Montana. 118 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 5: No notes, I think it's great. I would like to 119 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 5: be Bambi Massachusetts. Oh yes, she's nothing like Hannah Montana 120 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 5: and that's what makes her special. 121 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: She can't sing for ship. 122 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Wait what is what is Keanu Reeves's character in Point Break? 123 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: His last name Johnny Utah. Okay, I'm Johnny. 124 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, you're Johnny Utah's long lost sister. 125 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: That's genuinely a great. 126 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: That's like a good roller Derby name too. Yeah, that's 127 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 5: really powerful. Bamby Massachusetts. Really not much to say about her. 128 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: She's mostly uh, just you know, a terrible singer and 129 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: basically incompetent. That's that's my alter ego that I like 130 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 5: to slip in and out of love it. 131 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome to the Bechtel cap Thank you for guy. 132 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: We're so excited you're here. We haven't been. 133 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 5: Oh god, oh no, I think this is just gonna 134 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: keep happening. This is we actually got a really like 135 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 5: expensive nice wig for the show, and you can tell 136 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 5: by the fact that it isn't working. It's happening apart. Yeah, 137 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna really nice wow. Okay, so this is 138 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 5: we're just gonna be balding the whole time. That's totally fine. 139 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 5: But no, we're so excited to be back in Portland. 140 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 5: We haven't been here for three years. Is anyone here 141 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 5: the last time we did a show here? 142 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: Wow, welcome back? 143 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 5: Okay? Is anyone here just because they're like a hand 144 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 5: of Montana fan? Is anyone here just like to tell 145 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 5: me the seven things you hate about me? Yeah, we're okay, 146 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 5: we should tell them what. 147 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: The show is. Yes, yes, this is the Spectal Cast. 148 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: My name is Calin Derante AKA, my name's Joni Utah. 149 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 5: My n is Jamie loftus a pay Bambi Massachusetts. And no, 150 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 5: we're thrilled to be back, and we're thrilled to be 151 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 5: talking about kind of one of the greatest cinematic achievements of. 152 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: Our of our era. 153 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 5: I think, yes, this is normally this is our podcast 154 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 5: where we take an intersectional feminist look at your favorite 155 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 5: movies tonight. 156 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 4: I'm really not sure what it's going to be. 157 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: If you're expecting like really thorough, thoughtful discourse, it's come 158 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: to the right place. Yes, that's what will happen here tonight. 159 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: When people are talking about like put your thinking caps on, 160 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 5: I'm thinking. 161 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, it's so intellectual what you're about. 162 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 4: And see. 163 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so in fact, one of us might even have 164 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: a master's degree. And I would never mention that. 165 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: Not so jony, you would never. I would never. 166 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, this is our show, The Bechtel Cast, where 167 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: we analyze movies through and intersectional feminist lens, using the 168 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: Bechdel Test as a jumping off point. But Bamby Massachusetts 169 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: is that. 170 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 5: Well, it was a media metric invented by a huge 171 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: fan of Bamby Massachusetts, where Gartana is Alison Bechdel. 172 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: A lot of versions of the test. 173 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 5: Our version of the test requires that to Hannah Montana's 174 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 5: with names talk to each other about something other than 175 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 5: an identity crisis. 176 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: And most movies do not pass this test pretty rare. 177 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 2: In fact, maybe only one movie does yes, and it's 178 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: not this one. 179 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: It's Fight Club. It actually kind of works. Is Anna 180 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: Montana the same movie as I? 181 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 9: Truly? 182 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: Oh, I've got this in my notes. 183 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 4: I just didn't like It's it's a beautiful. 184 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 5: It's a gift from like Anna Montana and young people 185 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: with identity crises. I mean, she was there for us, 186 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: and her winning was not good it was. It was thrilling. Okay, 187 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 5: so I mean, but we have we have a very 188 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 5: special guest with us, and I also hello to the 189 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 5: live stream. 190 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: Yes, I guess that's all I have to say there. 191 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 5: And in the last one, I accident I forgot that 192 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: I once again insulted the city of San Francisco. 193 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: And then I was like, oh wait, anyone can see this, 194 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: they're watching. Yeah, I will not be allowed within the 195 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 4: city limits again. 196 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: And that's fucking fine. But we have we have an 197 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 5: amazing guest who is a huge Hannah Montana fan. We've 198 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 5: been and honestly, and I don't mean to like embarrass him, 199 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 5: but like he's been at least once a week. It's 200 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 5: like thirty texts in a row, Like when can I 201 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 5: talk about this subject. 202 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: I'm so passionate about people. 203 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 5: You know, people assume I'm like one kind of person, 204 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 5: but really I'm like a number one Hannah stan and 205 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 5: I want to talk about it. I'm like, oh, my god, enough, 206 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 5: that's his alter ego. 207 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: Our guest is, oh, a journalist, Oh behind the bastards, 208 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: but oh I have an eye. 209 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 5: And it's like okay, but what but what's what's just 210 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 5: beneath their secretly. Yeah, it's a Hannah Montana number one fan. 211 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 5: He's a number one fan of Montana. So let's get 212 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 5: him out here. Uh he's uh, Boston's number one prop comic. 213 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: Please give it up. 214 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 7: Foreverada, we prefer to be called Hannah mont Fanas. 215 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 5: So, first off, thank you for breaking I'm so sorry. 216 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 4: Sorry, holy shit. 217 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 5: Well I feel very safe, I think right now. 218 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 7: Would you like some weapons? 219 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: Yeah? 220 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, we are in the state of Oregon, which, in 221 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 7: it's very enlightened nature allows the open carry of any 222 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 7: kind of knife. So I brought a couple. 223 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,359 Speaker 5: Oh sensing some clenching butthole. 224 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 7: In the crown, and in honor of your corn dog, 225 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 7: I brought you this let's call. 226 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 5: And I just wanted to say. I wanted to shout out, 227 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 5: where's the audience member that gave me the corn dog? Hello? 228 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 5: What's your name? Thank you Max? Because this corn dog 229 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 5: is pornographic that he gave me, absolutely fucking sick. I 230 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 5: will be contacting, uh, the authorities that I don't believe 231 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 5: in her trust. But this is like, I mean, look 232 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 5: at this. 233 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 7: They really do look exactly alike when they say. 234 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 5: All movies are about fathers and sons this is what 235 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 5: they're talking about. Well, I mean, okay, yeah, what is 236 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 5: this called. 237 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 7: It's called a rungu. It's a war. 238 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: Club, so it's a it's a whack. 239 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're for it's for hitting stuff. 240 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 4: It's a whacker, all right. 241 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 7: Now, this is extremely dangerous, Caitlin. It can't be closed. 242 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 7: We'll just set that down here. 243 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,479 Speaker 4: Okay, Oh my god. 244 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 7: I received that in the mail in an anonymous box 245 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 7: of knives from a fan who said his grandfather had 246 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 7: sort of lost his mind later in life and just 247 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 7: kept ordering knives for the Budca catalog and they couldn't 248 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 7: figure out what to do with them, so they sent 249 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 7: them to me. 250 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: Does it. 251 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 7: Does? It's very dangerous. Yeah, I'm gonna if there's no 252 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 7: way to safely carry or transport it. 253 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: And yet you did that your bag. 254 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is maybe a ridiculous question, but like, what 255 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 5: is the desired effect for when you like because there's 256 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 5: also like a I'm afraid it's kind of like spring 257 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 5: out and it's not spring loaded. 258 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 7: It's far too heavy for that. 259 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: There's a gorgeous angel with huge naturals on this as well, 260 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 5: which you can't see because we're afraid to pick it up. 261 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 7: But fear is a natural reaction to that knife. 262 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: If I was using it, what would happen to someone? 263 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 7: Well, you would hurt yourself first. I suspect it doesn't. 264 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 7: I did use it to trim at one point, but 265 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 7: it didn't endwell for me. 266 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: Okay, okay? 267 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: And then I believe you have two more weapons with you. 268 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: Is that correct? 269 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 7: I just got one here for someone else. 270 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: Oh well, actually I feel like we should get another 271 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: woman on stage. 272 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 7: Oh yea better? Feel safe? 273 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 5: Can we actually give me around our producer, Sophie Lichterman? 274 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: Much better? 275 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 5: Go way way better. 276 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 4: There's a mic right there. All right, it's it's actually 277 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: Sophie Caliphofi. 278 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 5: You're like to be properly introduced next time. Thank you 279 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 5: so much. 280 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: What is this weapon you've got? 281 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. 282 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: It's very happy that. 283 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: Notice how he's afraid when I do this? 284 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: And what would that do? Would it give you a 285 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: little scrape? 286 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 10: Yeah? 287 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean can we open her up? Please? Sure? 288 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Oh? 289 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 5: Okay, my god. 290 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 7: Now, Sophie, you want to keep a drink in one 291 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 7: hand and just kind of wave that. It feels real good. 292 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: You never felt happier. 293 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 5: I'm also afraid to move my arm. 294 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 7: No, it's fairly, it's it's blunt. That's the safest kind 295 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 7: of knife. 296 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 5: It makes really yea persa. Yeah, I think I got 297 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 5: the safest one because I can't be trusted. 298 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of yeah, this is it's hefty. Yeah, 299 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: it's hefty, all right. 300 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 5: I don't think. 301 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: I think I feel pretty good about this. 302 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be like, trust you with it, Yeah, I do. Well, Okay, 303 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: it's just kind of a slick surface. It's kind of 304 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: a water slide situation up there. I do think this 305 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: is the first time in Bechdel cast history that we 306 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 5: have invited a male guest on and he immediately approached 307 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: us by explaining things to us and introducing act of 308 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 5: violence into the situation. 309 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 7: You made me watch the Hanna moon Hand movie. 310 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: I mean fair okay, which you in keeping with the 311 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 5: Laura love I'm okay, I guess I. 312 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: God, So if you do, you want to like. 313 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 7: Just jam it there we go? 314 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: Would you like to hang hang all right, Marshall, give 315 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: it over, Sarah Marshall. She was our guest at our 316 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: first show tonight. 317 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 5: Give it up. 318 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 4: If you're at the first show tonight. Yes, so exciting. 319 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 5: I got I got Minions. I got Minions walkie talkies 320 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 5: as a gift after the show, and I was so 321 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 5: fucking thrilled. He's gonna go to different rooms in my 322 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 5: house and be like below over, Coopie over. I'm really 323 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 5: loving the blonde theme here. Yeah, we were gonna bring 324 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: you a wig, but you have the natural Hannah. Yeah, yeah, 325 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 5: it's incredible. So I guess now that we're all here, yes, 326 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 5: and now that this brain trust has finally come together, 327 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: we should do what everyone wants us to do, which 328 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 5: is talk about Hannah Montana under dress. And so, Caitlin, 329 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 5: what is your history with Hannah Montana, the person, the property, 330 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 5: the idea of the movie. 331 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: Well, you'll never believe this, but I had never seen 332 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: any of it until maybe three or four days ago. 333 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: I knew about Thank You so much. I knew about 334 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: Hannah Montana. I knew that that's how Miley Cyrus got 335 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 2: her start, but I didn't watch any of it the end. 336 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: But now you I have watched it. 337 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: I love it. 338 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: And then we've watched several episodes of the show Today 339 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: again under Duress, most notably Larry David makes a cameo 340 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: as himself in the show I was really taken aback 341 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: by that. 342 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: A season two gem. 343 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 5: He shows up in a Curb Your Enthusiasm style thing, 344 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 5: he can't get into a restaurant. He's got a baby, 345 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 5: Cassie David him who knows why this is happening. But 346 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: we're thrilled and we're cheering and sometimes we're crying. It's 347 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: an exciting moment. So yeah, that's that's my history. What 348 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 5: about you, Jamie. 349 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: I love Hannah Montana. 350 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 5: I actually I think I was objectively too old for 351 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 5: Hannah Montana when it came out, and I was, I mean, 352 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 5: with all that like Disney Channel stuff of that era. 353 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: I was very I was very like bright eyes thirteen 354 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 4: year olds. I was like Hannah who And then secretly 355 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: I was feral. 356 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 5: For Hannah Montana. But I had an amazing friend in 357 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 5: junior high, in high school and still now. Her name's Lois, 358 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 5: and she, like, I think she was like a really 359 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 5: important friend to have where when we were not supposed 360 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 5: to like things anymore, Lois was just like, no, I 361 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 5: like the Jonas brothers, and we're going to their concert today, asshole, right, 362 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 5: And then we would go and then so I think 363 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 5: I got like this kind of cool like backdoor experience 364 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 5: to that era of pop stars with weird hair, and 365 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: I loved it. 366 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: I had so much fun. 367 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 5: I went to a Hannah Montana concert in junior high 368 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 5: and oh you did not, I yeah, yeah I did, 369 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 5: and she performed It is great. There's like a certain 370 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 5: point in the show where she'll like reveal herself to 371 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: be who we already know where to be, but we're 372 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 5: all just playing along for no reason. And then the 373 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 5: Jonas brothers come out and they have a trampoline and 374 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: You're like, this is all great. This, I'm loving this. 375 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 5: So I like watched the first season of the show 376 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 5: and then I really and truly was too old to 377 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 5: do it, and then I came back for the movie. 378 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 4: Sure. Yeah. Part of me is like, should I use 379 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: one of these knives to cut this tag off? No? 380 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 7: No, it's very safe. 381 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 4: No, I'm not touching that one. 382 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 5: But I think that we came up with the idea 383 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 5: for this episode like five years ago when we were 384 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: recording and you didn't know who Ariana Grande was. He 385 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 5: most certainly did not. Yes, yeah, so that I think 386 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: is where this came from. But now, Robert, what's your 387 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 5: experience with Hannah Montana. I know it's been a journey. 388 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 7: Well, I up until about five days ago, I was 389 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 7: pretty sure she was Taylor's way, and I'm gonna be honest, 390 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 7: the fact that Taylor Swift is in the movie did 391 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 7: not entirely disabuse me of that notion I could. I 392 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 7: missed Hannah. So, like, I graduated high school, I think 393 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 7: a few years before you did, and a few years 394 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 7: before Hannah Montana really became a thing, I think, And 395 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 7: so it was just kind of one of those when 396 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 7: I dropped out of pop culture briefly to do a 397 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 7: lot of drugs, and then I came back and she 398 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 7: was very, very famous, and I was like, oh, this 399 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 7: is something I missed. 400 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 5: And to think you could have been watching Hannah Montana 401 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: on drugs all those years. 402 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 7: I can't say for certain that I didn't, but it 403 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 7: does seem unlikely. 404 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: But now you've seen the movie, and what's your general impression. 405 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 7: I think it was probably the best Hannah Montana movie 406 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 7: that you were likely to. 407 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: Get very very judicious of you with, with. 408 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 7: One exception, but we'll get to that. 409 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see this is Sophie was to your history 410 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: with Anna Montana. 411 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 10: I definitely watched it when I was a kid, definitely 412 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 10: thought too many times out bangs. 413 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm just waiting. No, I'm listening. 414 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 10: I'm just gonna make really good eye contact while I 415 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 10: tell this. Really thought about bangs. 416 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 5: Uh. 417 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 10: You know, all the little guest star pieces are great. 418 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 10: I like that Elvis aka Austin Butler does not sound 419 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 10: Oh not the first time this has happened between us. 420 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 7: They're really good corn dogs by the way, whoever got them? 421 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, And then you know, followed Miley through her what 422 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 10: did we say? Her I'm no longer a Disney baby 423 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 10: song was Oh can't be tamed. 424 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: But she's like in a cage also as a bird, 425 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 5: she's I mean, and she's like, we're gonna talk about 426 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 5: this in pickups later on. But like she's also done 427 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 5: some serious cultural appropriation over the years, Like she's her 428 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: crime are many. 429 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 10: She should definitely apologize to Michael Jordan for that one song. 430 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 10: Thank you to the one person who got that reference. 431 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. 432 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 10: And then just all the times you've forced me to 433 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 10: watch today for three hours. 434 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, there was a bit of a hostage crisis 435 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 5: today when I made people watch Hannah Montana for three 436 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 5: hours and every time they were not responding. While I'd 437 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 5: be like, you just don't understand. 438 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 4: We're getting very defensive. Yes I was. 439 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 5: I was kind of I felt myself doing what my 440 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: therapist tells me not to do. 441 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: We just get defensive everythings that aren't important. 442 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 5: But I was like, no, you just need to see 443 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: how in the show, like in the movie, Hannah Montana 444 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 5: reveals her identity in one way. In the show, Jay 445 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 5: Leno finds out about her identity and it's a catastrophe, 446 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 5: it's a whole thing. But we're here to talk about 447 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 5: the Hannah Montana movie. 448 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 4: That's right, So should we should we recap it? We 449 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: certainly should. It's Caitlin's famous recap. 450 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: Folks. 451 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 4: My gosh, it's like it's okay. 452 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm almost done with my glass of wine. 453 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna need another one soon. 454 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: I know. 455 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: It's it's scary up here, okay. 456 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, people love her. 457 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: So I just want to provide a little bit of 458 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: context before I do the recap for the movie. But Jamie, 459 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: I think I need your help. So I think what 460 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: you need to already know about Hannah Montana as a 461 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: character as an intellectual property, is that Miley Miley Stewart. 462 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 5: Yes, Miley Stewart, Robbie Ray Stewart unacceptable. 463 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: She is just a regular girl, but her alter ego, 464 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: Hannah Montana, is super famous, and no one knows Hannah's 465 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: true identity. No one knows that Miley. 466 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 5: Is kept for her trusted circle exactly Dolly Parton knows. 467 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: Dolly Parton knows. In the movie, we realized that her grandmother, 468 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: Margot Martindale knows. 469 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 5: Martindale is well aware, and she knows the hoe down 470 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: throw down, we find knows it by heart. 471 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: She knows a lot of things that Martin heart. Okay, 472 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: So all she does is put on a blonde wig 473 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: right to become Oh and all we do is talk 474 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 4: into a microant. No, that's that is what we do. 475 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the reason she does this, she like is 476 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: leaving the living the secret life. Is she wants to 477 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: have a normal teen life as. 478 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 4: Someone constantly suffering an identity crisis. 479 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so that's what you need to know going in. 480 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: So the movie opens with Miley Stewart, that of course, 481 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: is Miley Cyrus. She's struggling to get into. 482 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: Her own hand. 483 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: The Montana Concert in Los Angeles, Ever, heard of it. 484 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 4: But that's not gonna work here. People aren't there. 485 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: Shout out to anyone from LA who's watching the live stream. 486 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: Wooms still not playing. 487 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 5: It's not playing there. Somebody in bed watching this is like. 488 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're talking about me. 489 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 5: I think that that's where our shows are best seen 490 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 5: from someone who's like watching on their phone, like facing 491 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 5: their head, also eating a corn dog. Yeah, it looks 492 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 5: just like this. 493 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: Okay. 494 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: So Miley and her best friend Lily played by Emily Osmond. 495 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: They finally get into the show and Miley performs as 496 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: her alter ego Hannah Montana. Her dad Robbie Ray played 497 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: by Billy ray Cyrus. Are you okay? 498 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 4: Yes? 499 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 5: Anything to say? I'm so angry you should be excited, 500 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 5: he asked. 501 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 4: Kind of the same name as you, Robbie Rays. 502 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 7: I come here to you, Jane on a Thursday night 503 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 7: when I could be doing ketamine, and this is how 504 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 7: you repay me. 505 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: Robbie Ray evans everybody, Wow, one of the great beautiful. 506 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 4: So he's Hannah Montana's manager, Is that right? 507 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? His whole thing is he puts on a fake 508 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 5: mustache in the show. 509 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: He's like, I'm Hannah Montana's manager. 510 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: Then he puts on a like Jacques Clouseau mustache he 511 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 5: has and everyone's like, yeah. 512 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 7: He has a soul patch that has to register with 513 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 7: everyone in his neighborhood to let them know that he 514 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 7: can't be within five hundred feet of a school like that. 515 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 5: I have a question the soul patch is. 516 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's more canonical to the character 517 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: or the man. I don't know. Okay, okay, okay. 518 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 2: Vanessa Williams is also there playing a character named Vita, 519 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: which is Hannah Montana's publicist. Yes, right, And then there's 520 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: also this guy named Oswald, which is this like sleazy 521 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: tabloid guy who's trying to get this juicy expose style 522 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: scoop on Hannah Montana. 523 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 5: That's one of the things I like about the movie 524 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 5: is for some reason it has like a very correctly 525 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 5: low opinion of the British tabloids specifically, And I was like, yeah, 526 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 5: I guess that that tracks. I wonder like why they're 527 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 5: being singled out. I mean, they're horrible, but who knows 528 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 5: they've got it in for our Hannah. 529 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed. So everything is going great in Hannah Montana 530 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: and Miley's life until Miley lets a few Hannah related 531 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: things get in the way, such as a shoe related 532 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: brawl with Tyra Banks. 533 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 10: Okay, how much do you think would they paid Tyro 534 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 10: to be in that movie? 535 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 5: Also had to learn the hoe down throwdown for the record. 536 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 5: She does it, and she does it in the credits 537 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 5: for like ten seconds and then bales, which I respect 538 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 5: because this is what this is what. 539 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 10: Two thousand and nine nine, So there's that's like peak 540 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 10: America what it would that? 541 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 5: That's peaky TV dime. Yeah. Oh, I mean Tyra's a 542 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 5: huge cameo no matter when all nine. Yeah, I'm like, 543 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 5: that's she throws Miley Cyrus over a couch. Oh well 544 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 5: she must have done it for free. Yeah. They get 545 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 5: into a pretty intense uh you know, and a lot 546 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 5: of exchanges in that fight. 547 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 4: Do pass the Bechdel test? That's true? Yeah, and we 548 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 4: applaud that it is a flawed. 549 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: So, uh, they're fighting over shoes because women be shopping 550 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: for shoes. Yes, And also Miley screws up her best 551 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: friend Lily's birthday party because she shows up as Hannah 552 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: Montana and so all of the sun is taken away 553 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: from Lily. So Miley's dad, Robbie Ray is like, you 554 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: need to simmer down and heady. 555 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: You're acting better than Billy. 556 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: I've never heard a person more actively reading the whole time. 557 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 7: He's honestly impressive, because I wouldn't have guessed that he could, 558 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 7: just knowing what I know about Billy Ray. 559 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: So he takes her to her hometown of Crowley Corners, Tennessee, 560 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: to get away from it all and to visit her grandmother, 561 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: Margot Martindale for her birthday character actor Margot Martindale for 562 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: her birthday, because Miley needs to learn to appreciate what matters, 563 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: because her Hannah persona is just becoming too much. 564 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 5: This is something that always I mean, Robbie Rays Stewart, 565 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 5: the famous character, He's always like mad at his daughter 566 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 5: for having a dual identity, as if he weren't into 567 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 5: girl and creating it in the first place. He's like, 568 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 5: you're losing touch with yourself. You fourteen, You're almost fucking loser. 569 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 5: I was like, dude, you had to have signed off 570 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 5: on this at some point, and I'm pretty sure she 571 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 5: bought your house, right. 572 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 4: Why can't you handle this duality that I'm forcing you 573 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: into as a. 574 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 5: Child with your undeveloped brain. 575 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So Miley goes back to her hometown in Tennessee. 576 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: Her grandmother tells Miley about how developers are trying to 577 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: swoop into town to build a huge mall, like do 578 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: all this like urban sprawl stuff. So the time, I 579 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: was gonna, Okay, thank you for saying that, because I 580 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: noticed that both of the shows that we did Live 581 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: Tonight in Portland, The Goonies and Hanna Montana the movie, 582 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: have basically the same premise, which is young person needs 583 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: to do something drastic to save their town that's in 584 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: danger of being ruined by rich people. 585 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 5: And I and it would be cool if either Data 586 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 5: from the Goonies became a pop star or Miley Cyrus 587 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 5: had to go onto a pirate ship in hell, either 588 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 5: of these movies I would be perfectly happy with. 589 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: Yes. So, the town of Crowley Corners is raising funds 590 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: so that they can pay the taxes on the land 591 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: to keep the developers out. Meanwhile, a couple romances are 592 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: brewing and they all fucking suck. One is between Robbie 593 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: Ray and a local woman, Laura Lai. 594 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Jan Levinson golds so weird. 595 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: I don't approve I know, it's like it does bothered me. 596 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 5: I mean, I love her, but also it's just like, 597 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 5: now we're sticking Laura Harding with Robbie Ray. 598 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: It doesn't seem fair. And Robbie Ray is not nice 599 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 4: to He's always like, I'm busy being a parent, and. 600 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 5: She's like, oh my god, I just said hello, why 601 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 5: why did he even get a love interest? Like, bro, 602 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 5: it's not about you. It's so fucking weird. 603 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 7: If you think that's weird, what do you hear about 604 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 7: his real current love interest? 605 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 5: Oh wow, I know. 606 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: Roberts made a separate presentation. 607 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 5: Roberts, Oh yeah, all do your show. I got five 608 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: pages of Billy Red. At some point, if it came 609 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 5: very clear that this was going to be a behind 610 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 5: the Bastard's about Billy Ray's sire. But I will not 611 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 5: accept it. 612 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: He printed out notes on the laser jet. I mean, 613 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 4: it's just a lot. 614 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 5: That's so menacing, Robert, so menacing. WHOA, I just got 615 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: my blood pressure just rose and can't wait? What is 616 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 5: handwritten on there? 617 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: Can I read it? 618 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 7: Please? 619 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 9: Do? 620 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: It says she is the fruit of a poisoned seed. 621 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 7: Now that was about a horse and a half worth 622 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 7: of ketamine into my night of research. Do you want 623 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 7: to know what else is on the back there? 624 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's an address. 625 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's Billy Ray's home address. 626 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 4: What's wrong? 627 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 7: It was a long night. 628 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 5: The group text really was becoming concerning at some point, 629 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 5: so Robbie raised Dandy Chan Levinson Gules and it fucking sucks. 630 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 4: Yes, it sucks. 631 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 2: What also sucks is Miley and the boy that she 632 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: used to know from school, Travis. 633 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 5: They can we just get a big boo for Travis? 634 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 4: We Travis? Oh my god? 635 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 10: Why did he get to go to the movie m 636 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 10: He seemed like TV series specific. Why did he get 637 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 10: to bump up to the movie? 638 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: He? 639 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 5: I know, I don't even think he was on the show. 640 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure most of the movie is like not 641 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 5: even canonical to the show. Shouldn't have been Jake Ryan Jake. Yeah, 642 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 5: there is a guy named jj which got woo's Travis 643 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 5: got booze. 644 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: Up said there is I mean there Miley like Miley Stewart. 645 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. Miley Stewart had so. 646 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 5: Many boyfriends in that show and they were all like 647 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 5: played by a different guy named Cody with the same haircut. 648 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 5: And then he's always like Miley, I have a big 649 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 5: crush on you, and she's like, and I was like, yeah, 650 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 5: let's watch this for five days. 651 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: Okay. 652 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: So Miley and Travis start building a chicken coop together 653 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: and that's kind of the basis of their relationship. The 654 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 2: point is she's getting back to her country roots. 655 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: Uh. 656 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: She then goes to a fundraiser slash open mic night, 657 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: you know those things, and Miley performs the Hoedown Throwdown. 658 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 5: Yes, okay, we gotta pop for the Holdown Throwdown. It 659 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 5: is a classic, generationally shifting musical sequence. You don't have 660 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 5: to like it, but it's history. You do have to 661 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 5: do it everyone, Yeah, two. 662 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 4: Three something something somethings some things. Oh, I wrote down 663 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 4: all the lyrics. Uh it is pop It, lock It. 664 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: Poka, Dotic country fall, yeah something, put your hawk in 665 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: the sky. 666 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wait, I'm sorry. I smells it better than me. 667 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 4: Someone had it. 668 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 5: Wait, would you mind just do it on? 669 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 4: Do you know it? 670 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 3: Yeah? 671 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 4: All right, let's see. 672 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 5: I don't know. Sorry to be so scary. Sorry, I 673 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 5: just ate the scariest corn dog of my life. 674 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 4: Sorry, okay, let's let's okay. 675 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 9: So it starts with what hop it, lock It polka, dotic, country, 676 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 9: fight it, hip hop, somebody side side sad, jumped to 677 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 9: the left, stick it glad, zig zag across the. 678 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 4: Floor, shuffle and diagonal. 679 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: Okay, so like a kind of a historic thing that 680 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 5: happened there. 681 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 4: Thank you? 682 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 5: So wait, what was your name? 683 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 4: Give it up for zav everybody that was well, that 684 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 4: was very special. 685 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 5: I loved it. Oh it means and I agree with that. 686 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 4: That is about how young. 687 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: That feels like a song. To misquote Harry Styles. Okay, okay, 688 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 2: so uh, Miley aspires everyone in town to perform the 689 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: Hodeln throw Down, but mister Capitalism shows up and he's like, 690 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 2: you'll never raise enough money to stop me from putting 691 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: out my shopping mall. And then Travis Boo suggests that 692 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: Miley invite Hannah Montana to town to put on a 693 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 2: huge benefit concert because Miley had previously mentioned that she 694 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 2: knew Hannah, And you're like, Travis, shut the fuck up. 695 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 2: That's every time Travis speaks my fist clench. 696 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 4: He thinks he's so fucking. 697 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 7: Smart, he's gonna make a killing in the egg business. 698 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 11: Then with the. 699 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 4: Ugliest chicken coop I've ever seen. 700 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 5: Sorry, his whole art he's like, I'm building a chicken 701 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 5: coop and then at the end, Miley Cyrus makes it 702 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,959 Speaker 5: uglier than it's ever been and he's like, I better 703 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 5: date her. It's like uh, and then Travis, for the record, 704 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 5: never heard from again. She has a totally different boyfriend 705 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 5: on the show. She's dating a guitarist named Jesse, who 706 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 5: keeps forgetting like his whole Jesse's whole thing I made 707 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 5: Caitlyn and Sophie watched the episodes today. 708 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 4: Jesse his his brain cells, they're not so good. 709 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 5: And so her whole thing is like, just don't kiss 710 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 5: me when I'm Hannah Montana and he's like, okay, got it. 711 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 5: That night on jay Leno, he kisses her as Hannah 712 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 5: Montana and jay Leno gets the scoop. It's thrilling. Why 713 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 5: is jay Leno on the show? Why is you didn't 714 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 5: want Travis on the show? 715 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 4: No, I mean we didn't. 716 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 5: I wasn't asking. I didn't want more Travis, but he's 717 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 5: just a pretty diabolical character. We didn't really want Jesse either, No, 718 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 5: we didn't really want the show. 719 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 4: I liked the show. 720 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 2: Okay, So so Travis is like, invite Hannah Montana to town. 721 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: So now Miley has to pretend to bring Hannah to town. 722 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: Her friend Lily shows up to help. Hannah is then 723 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 2: invited to a dinner with the mayor, but oh no, 724 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: it's at the same time as the date that she 725 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 2: has with Travis. Okay, hijik's alert missus doubtfire scene alert, 726 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: and so Miley has to like go back and forth 727 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 2: between the two events, putting on her Hannah Wig, taking 728 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 2: off her Hannah Wig. It's it's a really good storytelling. 729 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 5: And then Robert, you had, you had. 730 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 7: A pretty Travis is waiting for his date, and he 731 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 7: keeps getting angrier and angrier as someone who was once 732 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 7: a seventeen year old boy. If I had been on 733 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 7: a date with a girl and she had not shown 734 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 7: up and then come back and apologize, the last thing 735 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 7: I would have done is get angry. 736 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 4: But he's furious. He's quick to anger every single time, 737 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 4: and you're like, we gotta get. 738 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 7: He puts his fist through some dry wall. After that, 739 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 7: we just don't see that scene. 740 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 5: That's why it's taking so long to build his damn 741 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 5: chicken coob, punching holes in it. 742 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 2: And then he figures out that Miley is Montana, and 743 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: he's really upset because she lied to him, and is it? 744 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 4: What did I say? 745 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 5: I love, here's the thing. You weren't wrong, but you 746 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 5: definitely were right. 747 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 4: It's okay, okay. 748 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: So Miley is upset that Travis dumped her for reasons 749 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: that we know about, and she and her dad have 750 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: a heart to heart. They sing a song together. I 751 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 2: guess it's moving, and then it's time for the big concert. 752 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 4: I love when it's time for the big concert. 753 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 2: It's like, wow, is the third act happening. She starts performing, 754 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 2: but then she stops and she's like, I can't do this. 755 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 2: I can't lie to you. This is my hometown. You're 756 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: you know, you're my people, and I'm Miley Cyrus is Stuart, 757 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: not Hannah Montana. So she takes off her wig and 758 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: then she performs a song as Miley, and it seems 759 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 2: like she's gonna quit being Hannah Montana. 760 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 5: Which this is a while because it seems like she 761 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 5: i whatever she wants. It seems like she wants to 762 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 5: quit being Hannah Montana at this point, which is like A, 763 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 5: I mean whatever, there's plenty of reasons, right, and I'm 764 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 5: overthinking this. There's like I can see how wanting to 765 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 5: be rid of your alter egod, that's good, But it 766 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 5: seems like she's like, so I can date Travis, and 767 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 5: you're like, oh, like, throwing away your career for Travis 768 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 5: wouldn't be me. 769 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 7: I mean, but the way egg prices have gone lately, 770 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 7: that might still work out for it. 771 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 4: I was really that that was not your egg joke. 772 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 7: I do have a lot of problems with the way 773 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 7: eggs are depicted. 774 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 4: Okay, well then yeah, please please, that's what our show is. 775 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 7: You see a chicken coop that has easily thirty to 776 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 7: forty chickens. Okay, yeah, Now we see Miley put maybe 777 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 7: four or five eggs in her pockets right before she 778 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 7: falls and breaks them, and then she only finds one more. Now, 779 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 7: based on what the outside looks like and based on 780 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 7: the way people are dressed, it's clearly shot sometime in 781 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 7: spring or early summer, given the weather in Tennessee, that 782 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 7: is prime egg making hours. With that many chickens, they're 783 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 7: putting out sixty to eighty eggs a day. I guarantee 784 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 7: you each where are the other eggs? Miley? 785 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 5: This sounds like the worst social media campaign of all time. 786 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 5: Hashtag where are the other eggs? 787 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 2: Here's my question. When collecting eggs, is it standard to 788 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: put them in your pocket? 789 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 7: No, that's a terrible place for me egg Either way, 790 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 7: there's something suspicious about the egg count that we see 791 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 7: in this film. 792 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 4: I think we can all agree that there's. 793 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 7: So upset I'm livid. 794 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 4: Yes, and we cannot what. 795 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 5: Something we can all agree on is that she is 796 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 5: the fruit of a poisoned seed. I don't believe you 797 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 5: that not sober. I think that was sober thoughts. No, 798 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 5: but look, wow two four zero, No, No, it's okay. 799 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 7: I didn't put the zip code on, so there's no 800 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 7: way they find it. 801 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Caylen has the movie end. 802 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 2: I'd be happy to say, Okay, it's time for the 803 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 2: big concert. We're in act three. She starts to perform. 804 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, She's like, I can't do this. She takes 805 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 2: off her wig. She might quit being Hannah Montana. But 806 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 2: then everyone's like, you could still be Hannah Montana and 807 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 2: she's like, oh yeah. 808 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 5: They do the thing that they do Toby Maguire and 809 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 5: Spider Man two where he reveals his identity and they're like, 810 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 5: we'll keep it to ourselves. Oh yeah, but in a 811 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 5: way it like forces her to be Hannah Montana forever 812 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 5: because she's like, I'm ready to be myself and they're like, no, 813 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:50,919 Speaker 5: thank you. 814 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 4: Just kind of like a nightmare. 815 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 2: Right, But that sleazy tabloid guy from the beginning is 816 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: about to blow her cover, but then he's like, oh wait, 817 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 2: my daughter's told me not to, so then he doesn't, 818 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 2: and then Miley and Travis kiss and the movie oh yeah, 819 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 2: we don't like that, and then the movie ends with 820 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 2: her performing another song as Hannah. So I guess, no 821 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: lessons we're learning. What's the takeaway? 822 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 5: The takeaway is something, yeah, be yourself to a point, 823 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 5: which I think is the message of a lot of 824 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 5: two thousands children's media. 825 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 4: Be yourself. 826 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 10: But the message is if you have a good wig, 827 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 10: you can do almost anything. I know, what if you 828 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,479 Speaker 10: have Hannah Montana's wig. 829 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 7: Like I said, I have a practical Hannah Montana related 830 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 7: question from the very beginning of the movie. Yes, the 831 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 7: song we see here play at that stadium in Los 832 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 7: Angeles is called best of Both Worlds. 833 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 5: That's the theme song to the telegay because it's obviously 834 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 5: so you're back right now, because people are actually. 835 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 7: It's nothing against the song, but it's clearly a song 836 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 7: about being Hannah Montana and having a thin red alter ego. 837 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 7: How is that a mystery thing? 838 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 5: It's an open secret. There's something I loved about a chance. 839 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 5: So that's like the theme song to the TV show. 840 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 5: They make one small change between the TV show and 841 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,240 Speaker 5: the movie version of that song. In the TV show, 842 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 5: there's like a line that goes like, you go to 843 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 5: movie premiers and then she says, is that Orlando Bloom? 844 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 4: And oh that happens in two thousand and six. 845 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 5: By two thousand and nine, that line is removed because 846 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 5: Orlando Bloom is no longer a famous person and you 847 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 5: would no longer be excited to see him at a 848 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 5: movie premiere. 849 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 850 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 5: True, that song is a classic. I mean, yeah, she is. 851 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 5: She is, but you would be surprised at how flagrantly 852 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 5: she is very obviously not Hannah Montana. 853 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 4: In the show, it's almost every episode. 854 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 5: Do you have any other like basic questions about Hannah 855 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 5: Montana that we can we can help you out with? 856 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 7: Not no, not that that was about it. 857 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 4: That was a more meaning than I intended to be. 858 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 7: I mean, it is kind of it. It is kind 859 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 7: of shitty of her to like when she shows up 860 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 7: at her friend's party immediately get up on stage and 861 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 7: play a concert if she knows her friend is pissed 862 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 7: at her. 863 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 4: M hmm, no one knew that concert. 864 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 5: That's true. Yeah, that is true, because there's like moments 865 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 5: where with like people in her life seemed constantly frustrated 866 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 5: that she has this alter ego when it's so inherent 867 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 5: to who she is. 868 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 4: It's like, well, then don't hang out with her if 869 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 4: you don't like that, But no one was forcing her. 870 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 4: She literally is like shrugging at Lily. 871 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 5: She's like, I'm sorry I had to put on a 872 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 5: concert no one asked for with my new. 873 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 10: And song to be fair in the pilot that you 874 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 10: made me watch at knife Point today, Yeah, and I 875 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 10: was like, can. 876 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 5: I tell everyone? 877 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 10: I'm gonna tell them your Hannah And then she was like, 878 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 10: don't do that, and she was like why so confusing 879 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 10: mixed signals. 880 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 881 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 7: Also, I feel like taking the private jet out there 882 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 7: was a significant fraction, yes, of the money that the 883 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 7: town needed to raise in order to buy the land 884 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 7: from that cellphone. 885 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 5: Look and then take. 886 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,760 Speaker 7: The third of the door take home from that concert. 887 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 5: She just did and you know that that's also how 888 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 5: Taylor Swift got there. Taylor Swift. Okay, Taylor Swift is 889 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 5: in the movies as is. We did have any we 890 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 5: have managed to not mention that Rascal Flats is at 891 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,479 Speaker 5: Margot Martindale's out. 892 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 4: I didn't even know. Oh, I would know those gates anywhere, 893 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 4: baby would. 894 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 3: Oh. 895 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 5: It's like you've never seen cars. 896 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. 897 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 5: I can't the lack of media literacy on this stage 898 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 5: right now, it's shocking. Rascal Flats is at the house 899 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 5: with Robbie Ray and Margot Martindale and they're singing some 900 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 5: piece of shit song because that's what they do. I 901 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 5: liked it. I liked it. Yeah, yeah, I said, I'm sorry, 902 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 5: I met piece of shit like uh not Pejorida. 903 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, Taylor Swift is at the open Mic night thing, 904 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,439 Speaker 2: right Yeah, that's the end of it. 905 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 4: And they play but I love it. 906 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 5: So during the Taylor Swift song, they're they're cutting around 907 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 5: to like a bunch of different conflicts, but most of this, 908 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 5: like sweet Taylor. 909 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 4: Swift song about teenagers and love. 910 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 5: Takes place while Robbie Ray Stewart is talking to Jan 911 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 5: Levinson Gould about how he's a bad. 912 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 4: Boyfriend, which I thought was a good use of Taylor Swift. 913 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 5: I thought it worked. 914 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 4: Robert, I am very what's going on? What's going on 915 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,280 Speaker 4: in Want? I know I can see you shaking, ready 916 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 4: to read the next? Yeah? Okay, so so is this 917 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 4: a behind the Bastard's episode? 918 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 10: Now? 919 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 4: What's going on? 920 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 7: I mean, I just have a little bit to say 921 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 7: about Billy Ray Cyris. 922 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 5: I have to say. 923 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 4: The font is not very big. 924 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 7: Most of these are most of these are just notes, 925 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 7: but a right, well yeah, no, no, please please let me 926 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 7: make sure people can see the address. 927 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 5: So we're talking about Billy Ray Cyrus, not Robbie Ray Stewart. 928 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 5: Is that correct? 929 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 7: Yes? Okay, yeah, because no one has ever been named 930 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 7: Robbie Raised, it's not that much. 931 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 8: So. 932 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 7: Billy Ray was born August twenty fifth, nineteen sixty one. Now, 933 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 7: he was born in Flatwoods, Kentucky to Ron Cyrus, a 934 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 7: steel worker who became a politician, Which is the first 935 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 7: time that his actual background conflicts with the movie, because 936 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 7: the movie clearly shows him growing up as a down 937 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 7: home farm boy and his dad was like a union 938 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 7: man who became a political leader in the state. So wow, yeah, 939 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 7: that's suspicious, right, uh huh. 940 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 4: So already a manufactured like every man. 941 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 7: And also his grandpa was a Pentecostal preacher, which is 942 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 7: problematic now he dropped out of Georgetown. He also he 943 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 7: went to Georgetown. Fun, I know, right right, Georgetown. I know, yeah, 944 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 7: very down home and country Billy old was. 945 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 5: He when Achy Breaky Heart came out. 946 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 7: We're getting to Achy Breaky Heart like. 947 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 5: This like ties into like Taylor Swift is in this 948 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 5: like country movie while she's from Pennsylvania. 949 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she's like howdy y'all. Like I was, like, 950 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 4: all right, punks a tony Phil Chill aust. 951 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 7: It's a lot of appropriation. 952 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 5: Going on day everybody where grownhog days. 953 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 3: I don't know. 954 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 7: So this is a fun fact. He dropped out of 955 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 7: Georgetown in his junior year because he went to a 956 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 7: Neil Diamond concert and decided he wanted to become a musician. 957 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 5: Men can do anything. Wow, so inspiring. 958 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 7: This brings us to the only notable fact about Billy 959 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 7: Ray's musical career. The song Achy Breaky Heart. Okay, it 960 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 7: was written by an amateur songwriter, don Van Trust no, no, no, 961 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 7: Billy Ray could ever have crafted the intricate lyrics of 962 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 7: Achy Breaky Heart, and it was originally recorded by a 963 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 7: band called the Marcie Brothers, but their version changed lyrics 964 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,919 Speaker 7: to be less bad. So when Billy got the song, 965 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 7: he was like, no, no, no, let's make it. Keep 966 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 7: it shitty series. 967 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 5: Not only did he not write it, but he stole 968 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 5: it from somebody else. 969 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 7: He stole it shamelessly and reached number twenty three on 970 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 7: CMT's hundredths Greatest Videos of All Time, number two on 971 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 7: VH one's Most awesomely Band Song. 972 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 5: Caitlin needs to tell on themselves really quickly. 973 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,240 Speaker 2: Okay, The main thing I did to prep for this episode, 974 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 2: aside from watching Hannah Montana the movie, is watch the 975 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 2: music video to Achy Breaky Heart. It is yes, it 976 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 2: is not good. 977 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 7: No, no, of course not currently. 978 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 2: Him edited concert in like four to three ratio, like 979 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: aspect ratio. It looks like shit. He has the worst haircut. Imagine, 980 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 2: terrible song and it's a bad song. 981 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 5: But Kaylen, you were texting me that you thought. 982 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 8: He was. 983 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 4: A very lead. 984 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 5: I was waiting for that. 985 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 7: It's a unique kind of shitty song because when Weird 986 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 7: Al Yankovic parodied it, Weird Al famously one of the 987 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 7: nicest people who's ever lived. The only parody he could 988 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 7: make was so mean that he donated all of the 989 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 7: proceeds from the song to charity. He was like, this 990 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 7: is too cruel. I can't profit off of this, but 991 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 7: there's no other way to make an achy breaky heart parody. 992 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 5: God, Okay, you're like one, Yeah, skip ahead, a little 993 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 5: sit No, we're done. 994 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 7: We're done. We're mostly done. So there's a couple of 995 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 7: things I want to note. In April of twenty seventeen, 996 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 7: he changed his name to Cyrus or the artist formerly 997 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 7: known as Billy Ray, and Wikipedia says fans did not 998 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 7: like this, but on Live with Kelly and Ryan, Cyrus said, 999 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 7: I'm here to set the record straight. He assured his 1000 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 7: fans his name would still be Billy Ray. So that's good. 1001 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 7: Now we get to the sketchy part because Billy Ray. 1002 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 7: Cyrus also sits on the advisory board of the Parents 1003 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 7: Television Council, which is an ultra right wing anti art 1004 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 7: gentleman organization. They lobby against the existence of gangster rap 1005 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 7: as a legal medium of art. Yeah. It's founded by 1006 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 7: a guy named Leo Brent Bozel the Third who is 1007 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 7: the nephew of William F. Buckley. 1008 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 4: How long has he been on that council. 1009 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 7: For quite a while? I don't have an exact year 1010 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 7: here because I was pretty high when I wrote this. Also, 1011 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 7: Cyrus's song We the People was used as the campaign 1012 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 7: song for George W. Bush during his two thousand presidential run. 1013 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 7: Cyrus was reported as saying that he was a lifelong Democrat. 1014 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 7: I don't know how much I believe that. 1015 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 5: Well, it's a Georgetown University Democrat. That didn't mean anything. 1016 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 7: So the last thing I should note is that in 1017 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 7: the movie, her mom is dead, right, that's like clearly 1018 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,959 Speaker 7: implied and. 1019 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 4: Not just dead. 1020 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 5: Brooke Shields then dead. 1021 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 7: Oh yeah yeah, and he is her manager. 1022 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 5: What do you mean by that? Exactly what I said? 1023 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 5: Canonically in the show and the movie, her mom is 1024 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,839 Speaker 5: always dead, but sometimes her ghost comes back and it's 1025 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 5: Brooks Shields, and Brooke Shields is like, Miley, I'm so 1026 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 5: proud of you and like and then you're like, what 1027 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 5: the fuck is going on? 1028 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 2: It's not like flashbacks. She comes back as a ghost. 1029 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 5: She's not like, but she's like she does yeah, she 1030 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 5: comes to like advise Miley. The two main female advisors 1031 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 5: in Miley's life and I view this as a positive 1032 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 5: are Brooke Shields and Dolly Parton, and that Dolly Parton 1033 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 5: guessed it on the show many times because she's Miley 1034 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 5: Cyrus's actual godmother. Oh and today we watched the episode 1035 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 5: where Dolly Parton robs the A V Club or something. 1036 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 4: It was pretty exciting. It was good anyways. 1037 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 7: Yes, so it's fun that her mom is dead in 1038 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 7: the show and Billy Ray is her manager because in 1039 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 7: real life, her mother, Tish was her manager. Yes, and 1040 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 7: Tish and Billy Ray got divorced in the year two thousand. 1041 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 7: Oh sorry, in April twenty twenty two after a couple 1042 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 7: of different divorce attempts, and in September of that year, 1043 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,439 Speaker 7: Billy Ray shared a photo of himself with a woman 1044 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 7: named fire Hose on Instagram. That is her legal name. Okay, 1045 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 7: the two met over a decade prior on the set 1046 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 7: of Hannah Montana. Oh no, yeah she is. I mean 1047 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 7: she's thirty four now now okay, So yeah, there's one 1048 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 7: one last thing I'll read. 1049 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 5: It's not against the law about how they mess I 1050 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 5: made him. I met. I was like, how old where 1051 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:50,919 Speaker 5: they met? 1052 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,320 Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah? On the set of his daughter. 1053 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,240 Speaker 5: Show a little Yeah. 1054 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 7: And in one of the stories he gives about how 1055 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 7: they met, he notes or it's noted, fire Hose came. 1056 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 7: He's like walking his he's walking his dog. When she 1057 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 7: comes out of the Hannah Montana set on that given day, 1058 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 7: Firehouse came out the front door, there was almost a 1059 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 7: moment of I don't know, recognition. I was like, this 1060 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 7: girl is a star. 1061 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 5: Back then. 1062 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 7: No, that's what he said, now. 1063 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 5: That he thought back then, that's what he said. 1064 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 7: He thought back then. 1065 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 10: On his daughter's tea, on his daughter's TV's. 1066 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 5: Getting paid to do off her likeness. I wish fire 1067 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 5: is the best. I think we should all keep fire 1068 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 5: Hose in our thoughts prayers. Yeah, thoughts and prayers for 1069 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 5: fire Hose is my is my takeaway. Okay, so that 1070 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 5: is that? Is that all of Billy Ray's crimes. Do 1071 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 5: we miss anything? 1072 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 7: That's that's most of it? Yeah? 1073 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, Kaitlyn, was there anything else that stuck out 1074 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 5: to you about this movie besides the fact this fucking. 1075 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 4: Awesome, so awesome. 1076 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:04,479 Speaker 2: The scene where Travis is like, he comes in, she's 1077 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: like in a barn or a chicken coop. I'm not sure, 1078 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 2: and she's singing a song and he's like that song, 1079 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 2: fucking socks, why are you? Oh you're still. 1080 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 4: Doing that singing thing? 1081 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 2: And yeah, so it's generic and your song isn't even 1082 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 2: about anything. First of all, he only heard like two 1083 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 2: lines of it. Secondly, she did none of her songs 1084 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 2: were about anything, so what's the problem? 1085 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 12: And one of our songs is clearly one of her 1086 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 12: songs is famously about if she were a movie, that's 1087 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 12: one of her most favorite If we were a movie, 1088 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 12: you'd be the right guy, I be the best friend 1089 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 12: that you fall in love with in the end. 1090 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 5: How is that not about something? Cake lamb okay and 1091 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 5: then all sorry? Her song that goes pop it, lock it, 1092 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 5: Poka dot it. Can't you care about the power of 1093 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 5: dan in this guy? 1094 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 2: Some things I decide jump to the left, stick it, glad, 1095 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 2: et cetera. 1096 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 5: I'd like to see you doing them. 1097 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 4: I'm getting defensive a man of I can't. It's fine. 1098 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 2: So my point is, uh, Travis sucks. We already knew that. 1099 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,439 Speaker 2: But in particular in that scene where he's like your 1100 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 2: art is bad, and it's like, what have you ever 1101 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 2: done besides making ugly chicken? 1102 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 4: Coop Travis. 1103 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 5: Wow, I mean wow, yeah, I yeah. And then it's 1104 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 5: like all the scenes between Robbie, Ray, Stuart and Miley 1105 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 5: are always weird because he always is. He always is 1106 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 5: like walking after her the whole series, and the movie 1107 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 5: is like, what are you so upset about? And it's like, 1108 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 5: same thing as usual, the split identity you forced me 1109 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 5: into so you could have this shitty sitcom house next 1110 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 5: to the beach. Ultimately, I think that Vita is a 1111 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 5: fun character. I wish she got to do more because 1112 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 5: it's like, you got Vanessa Williams and you're not gonna 1113 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 5: let her do more stuff. 1114 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 4: I don't waste my time. I oh that we could. 1115 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 5: We could just get rid of Travis and have so 1116 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 5: much more fun more Tyra more. I feel like she 1117 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 5: we still have to cover life Size. That was what 1118 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 5: I thought when we That was a huge thought. The 1119 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 5: people people want the life Size episode. Oh, it was 1120 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 5: a perfect I haven't seen it in twenty years. It's 1121 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 5: probably yeah, I'm sure it ate. It's perfect. 1122 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 2: The people have spoken it's perfect. Oh. And then the 1123 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 2: other thing I wanted to say is that in Hannah, Montana, 1124 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 2: women are not the only ones who are prop falling 1125 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 2: because Billy Ray or whatever his name is in the movie, 1126 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 2: he prop falls too. 1127 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 5: Yay, he knocks a bunch of plates. 1128 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 4: So that is like equity. 1129 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 5: That is like very inherent to this like era of 1130 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 5: like Disney sitcom girls specifically, because if I had, you know, 1131 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 5: a dollar for every time we got I mean, we've 1132 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 5: talked about Hillary Duff. She's slipping, sliding all over the place. 1133 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 5: Raven Simone just absolutely flying across the rim at a 1134 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 5: moment's notice, Miley Cyrus just careening out of a can 1135 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 5: and like she's They're just flopping around. Yeah, I love it. 1136 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 5: They were our you know, they were the greatest physical 1137 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 5: comedians of our era. 1138 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 4: I like when girl walking and then she fell down. 1139 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 4: I look at her, I say, she like me. That's 1140 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 4: also and Robert, you brought this up. 1141 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 2: As far as they like dead mom hurts, she's like 1142 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 2: the Disney princess are basically, I do want to mention 1143 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 2: as far as the like father daughter relationship goes the 1144 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 2: parallels to Armageddon. 1145 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm listening, Hey you ready. 1146 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 2: Single Dade and daughter daughter daughter has a little boyfriend 1147 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 2: and something is headed their way to destroy their town. 1148 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 5: An asteroid and or American capitalism. 1149 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 2: Equally bad things, and the characters need to stop it. 1150 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 4: It's true. 1151 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 5: And they do the I mean they do the classic 1152 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 5: they save the town from the thing sort of kind 1153 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 5: of and you kind of forget what the threat was 1154 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 5: in the first place, and then there's a really loud 1155 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 5: song and then you pass out. That's the movie that 1156 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 5: feels like a movie the. 1157 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:51,919 Speaker 4: Big time. 1158 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know this until you mentioned it, Robert, 1159 01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 2: that it was Mildly Cyrus's mother who was herd throughout. 1160 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 4: Her entire career. 1161 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 5: And then the movie is like or the Yeah, the 1162 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 5: show in the movie is like, no, it's it was 1163 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 5: Billy Rays or Daddy. 1164 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 7: So that's uh stolen valor the. 1165 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 2: It's the erasure of women's labor, erasure, And that's all 1166 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 2: I have to say. 1167 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 5: Okay, so I feel so here's what we know. Yes, 1168 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 5: this movie is good. Yeah, I think that that's the 1169 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 5: conclusion we've come to. However, I feel like, I don't know, 1170 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 5: like Caitlin, Sophie and I like we can tap into 1171 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 5: our natural pop star pretty easily. But Robert, I just 1172 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 5: feel like you've got like a lot of weapons and 1173 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 5: kind of scary notes and I'm just like not getting 1174 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 5: pop star from you right now? So I wanted to 1175 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 5: don't touch. 1176 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 4: The notes anymore. Please, no one wants to see the address. 1177 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 4: We're gonna put that down, Robert. 1178 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 5: I wanna like we were thinking we would help you 1179 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 5: kind of get in touch with your inner pop star tonight? 1180 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 7: Is that? 1181 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 5: Okay? Oh boy, okay, okay. 1182 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 4: Let's kick up the music. 1183 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 5: We we've got, We've got a little plan. 1184 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 4: We've got a quiz. I found a quiz on the 1185 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 4: internet called pop star? 1186 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 7: Which are you? 1187 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 5: All right, Robert? If you want to find out which 1188 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 5: pop star you are, this personality quiz reveals your perfect 1189 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 5: famous singer match side note, can you name at least 1190 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 5: three of those people? 1191 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 7: Oh? 1192 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 5: The quiz before the quiz? 1193 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's uh Selena Gomez? Is that one of us? Yeah? 1194 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 7: That looks like that looks like there's a Selena Gomez. 1195 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 7: And there's that also, is that Taylor Swift in the strip? 1196 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 4: Yes see? 1197 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 5: All right, one more beebs, come on, I've given you 1198 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 5: five years. 1199 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 4: This one justin Bieber? 1200 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 5: Really yeah? And that is oh you got he got 1201 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 5: a little caked out, didn't he? 1202 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:49,439 Speaker 4: All right? 1203 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 10: And that's famously the woman you called Arianna Grad. 1204 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 7: Wait, which one. 1205 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 5: That's better have a day? 1206 01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 7: Just one of the three ladies with Selena go mess. 1207 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 5: Robert's a big fan of rare beauty cosmetic. 1208 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna start the quiz. 1209 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 7: Okay, but who the hell is on the left that 1210 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 7: no one knows? 1211 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 5: Oh that name? 1212 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 7: That name means nothing to me, No one's. 1213 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 4: No one's quite sure who that is on the left? 1214 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 4: All right, can we start the quiz? 1215 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 5: The first question, what is your favorite treat? 1216 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 11: I might knowsh potato cheese, pizza, eating out a Nantas 1217 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 11: or chicken nuggets. 1218 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 7: I mean, I gotta I gotta say Nando's. 1219 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 5: Eating out at Nanda's. Okay, let's choose that one, Kaylen, 1220 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 5: you're gonna take this next one absolutely Pick a movie 1221 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 5: or series, Romance, slash Spotify, why are those tubes grouped together? 1222 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 5: Not sure this makes sense? 1223 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 2: Stify slash action that makes a little more sense, crime 1224 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 2: slash action or Bollywood drama. 1225 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 4: Thoughts. 1226 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 5: There's a lot of you know, there's some intersecting venn diagress. 1227 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,440 Speaker 7: You know it's heartbreaking to think that soon is like 1228 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 7: this will be written by ais, I know, putting hard 1229 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 7: working writers out of business. 1230 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 4: What are you thinking? 1231 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 5: Answer the question. 1232 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have to answer yes, Roberts. Well, I guess 1233 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 7: I mean my preference in movies is my my preference 1234 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 7: in real life. So crime action, crime action. I think 1235 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 7: I could go for some crime action. 1236 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 4: All right. Next we have what song do you like most? 1237 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 9: Oh? 1238 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 11: This is gonna be rapped Cigarette day Dreams by King 1239 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 11: the Elephant, Get It Right by Diplo and m o Hey, 1240 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 11: Jude by the Beatles, or Thriller by Michael Jackson. 1241 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 7: Did you guys hear the latest Cage the Elephant news? 1242 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 3: Oh? 1243 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 4: I haven't heard the Latest Cage the Elephant. 1244 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 7: The lead singer was arrested in New York because people 1245 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 7: at the hotel noticed when he was in the bathroom 1246 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 7: yelling at no One that he had a loaded gun 1247 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 7: in his pants, So he was illegally carrying two forty 1248 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 7: fives loaded in chambered anyway with singer Rette Daydreams? 1249 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 12: Okay, all right, why are you like it? 1250 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 9: All right? 1251 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 5: Next quessure Gayla Okay, where do you like to live? 1252 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 5: The four places? 1253 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 7: Well, California and Europe are both acceptable, England and New 1254 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 7: York are not. Yeah, I guess I'm gonna go with 1255 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 7: Europe because California is gonna burn down soon. 1256 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 4: I'm fair. 1257 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 5: Okay, which car do you like the most? Red car, 1258 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 5: blue car, green car, or red car. 1259 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to go with the green one. 1260 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 5: Okay, I like that? 1261 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's really gonna hurt the environment real bad. 1262 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 7: None of them are going to be good to the environment. 1263 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 4: But that one looks like Shrek, who is good. 1264 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 7: For the environment? 1265 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 4: Shrek Heads. What is your shavorite animal? Tarantula, horses, cats, 1266 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 4: or lion? Well, I guess still somehow there's. 1267 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 7: I can't forgive this quiz for making me between cats 1268 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 7: and lions, but I'll go with cats. 1269 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 5: Okay, good. 1270 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:10,439 Speaker 4: Do you know how many nipples a cat has? It's eight? 1271 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 5: That's cat fox with Caitlin like a spider Rubbert. 1272 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 4: Which country or region would you like to visit the most? 1273 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 5: Is it? 1274 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 4: Why? 1275 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 5: Why? 1276 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,480 Speaker 4: Eastern Europe, the UK or India. 1277 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,759 Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to go with why. 1278 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:29,719 Speaker 4: No one's been there before. 1279 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,520 Speaker 7: I've drawn the mystery. 1280 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 4: What musical instrument would you like to learn? Ukulele, cello, piano. 1281 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 4: I would only like. 1282 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 7: To sing, yeah, I would only like to sing. 1283 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 4: Okay, you're gonna regret saying that. Which personality trait fits you? 1284 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 4: According to your friends and family. Well, okay, Sophie, you 1285 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 4: can answer this said. 1286 01:08:55,200 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 5: Being rebellious, being stubborn, being campette on it, or being 1287 01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 5: a dreamer. So me, you should answer this your friends 1288 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 5: and family. Yeah, I'm gonna go with ask the audience. 1289 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm sorry, but the clear answer is compasionate. 1290 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 5: He's a very compati nuts guy. Why all right? 1291 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 3: Oh? 1292 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 5: Yes? 1293 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,799 Speaker 2: Which what fictional character inspires you the most? 1294 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,919 Speaker 4: Michael saw from the office. 1295 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 2: Fictional character Robin Williams, Willie Wonka or Harry Potter. 1296 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 5: Yea, answer this question. 1297 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to go with Robin Williams, but specifically 1298 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 7: Robin Williams from One Hour Photo. 1299 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 4: That's a good Robin Williams. Which quote do you agree 1300 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 4: with the most? All the good girls go to have? 1301 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 5: Be kind to yourself a little more every day. Music 1302 01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 5: is a powerful tool in galvanizing people at an issue 1303 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 5: or no matter how many times people try to criticize you, 1304 01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,639 Speaker 5: the best revenge just to prove them wrong. 1305 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:16,599 Speaker 7: Well, I guess the revenge one. I am a revenge Stan. 1306 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 5: I thought he was gonna go sassy switch out? 1307 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,040 Speaker 4: What are you afraid of? The Phantom of the Darkness? 1308 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 2: Loneliness being in a crowded place, or drowning. 1309 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 7: I mean, I gotta give it to him. They spelled 1310 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 7: loneliness right, which I was not expecting from this writer. 1311 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 10: Your your answers Tepinitely being in a crowded place. 1312 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, having been in a couple of crowd crush situations. 1313 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 7: Everyone file out real carefully. 1314 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 4: Who would you like to spend an evening with. 1315 01:10:52,400 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 5: Oh boy after fans on or family? 1316 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,240 Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to go with the loan. 1317 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're friends or a sadd What natural element inspires 1318 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 5: you the most? 1319 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 4: The sky, the ocean, mountains or the desert. 1320 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with mountains. 1321 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 5: Yes, a classic element. What is your favorite type of 1322 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 5: sports courseback riding, boxing, football, or soccer? 1323 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,640 Speaker 7: What a series of choices. Well, I'm gonna I'm like 1324 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 7: a on an artistic level, I appreciate head injuries, so 1325 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with football. Okay, although boxing, I was. 1326 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 5: Like, there's a loan and falling off a horse you 1327 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 5: could get a break. 1328 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 7: You're right, You're they're all great head injury sports soccer too, 1329 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:47,479 Speaker 7: But I'm gonna go with football. 1330 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 5: Okay, this is a really long quiz. Look, look where 1331 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 5: I was doing exteen of twenty. Okay, what is your 1332 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 5: favorite time of day? Afternoon, morning, dusk, or night night? 1333 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,280 Speaker 5: It's yeah, I don't like that. 1334 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 4: Did the out of chronological orders? 1335 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,519 Speaker 5: What would you do first and make the world a 1336 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 5: better place? Abolishing sexual discrimination, ending all wars, controlling climate change, 1337 01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 5: or restoring balance at the global economy. Sorry, you can 1338 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,800 Speaker 5: only be gone. You're gonna seem like a bit no 1339 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 5: matter what. 1340 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, Look, controlling climate change sounds like I 1341 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 7: could control the weather, and I could. I could deal 1342 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 7: with some problems if I could control the weather. So 1343 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with that one control. 1344 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 5: That's the vaguest answer by far. 1345 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, select one of the drinks below, rum, vodka, wine, 1346 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 2: or tequila. 1347 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,719 Speaker 5: But uh, what is what city is the best place 1348 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 5: to live for a pop star? 1349 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 3: La? 1350 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 4: Paris, London or New York? 1351 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 7: I mean, what's furthest away from me? Paris? Let's let's 1352 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:52,879 Speaker 7: keep them far. 1353 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 5: Okay, and final question, Oh my gosh, select a super 1354 01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 5: a supernatural power. 1355 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 4: You know that's the. 1356 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 5: Grouse awesome invisibility, reading minds, talking and understanding what animals say. 1357 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,759 Speaker 5: A lot of thorny vinderstanding what animals say. 1358 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 4: Flying specifically, and don't press next. 1359 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:16,560 Speaker 5: Yet because. 1360 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 7: I mean flying with flying right, like that's the only 1361 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 7: choice in a list of superpowers that. 1362 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 4: Can we get a little drum roll because we're about to. 1363 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,799 Speaker 7: Get Roberts so excited. 1364 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 5: Robert your pop star is you may? Oh no, that 1365 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 5: is pretty fucking rough man. 1366 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:45,639 Speaker 7: That's not good. 1367 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 5: How are you all right? Listen? 1368 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 10: All right? 1369 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 4: Give it up for Robert. That was very vulnerable of 1370 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 4: you to do. 1371 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 7: Thank you. 1372 01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:07,760 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, there you have it listeners. That was 1373 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,799 Speaker 2: our live show recorded again back in February at Curious 1374 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:16,559 Speaker 2: Comedy Theater in Portland. We wanted to jump back in 1375 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 2: though to discuss something that we didn't have time for 1376 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 2: in the live show. But we wanted to bring up 1377 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus's history of appropriation. 1378 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,479 Speaker 3: Right, which I think you get a taste of, not 1379 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 3: that you would want it and in this movie not 1380 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:40,599 Speaker 3: to say that. 1381 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 4: You know, at this point Miley is a kid. 1382 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,160 Speaker 3: She's not really making a lot of her own creative decisions. 1383 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 3: But I think it is something that you see very 1384 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 3: often in kids media and which is still very white dominated, 1385 01:14:55,040 --> 01:15:00,800 Speaker 3: you know, the Hoddan throwdown. It's a very gentle sort 1386 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:06,400 Speaker 3: of blend of genres. But I think we're more talking 1387 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:11,240 Speaker 3: about how this unfolds in her adult career because it's 1388 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 3: been I feel like it's pretty common knowledge that it's 1389 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 3: been a lot. 1390 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:22,000 Speaker 2: Yes, So, Miley Cyrus, along with many other white pop artists, 1391 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 2: have a history of appropriating other cultures, often Black culture, 1392 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 2: using people of color as props and set dressing in 1393 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 2: music videos, things like that, and these artists profiting from that, 1394 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 2: and then when that esthetic doesn't serve them anymore, or 1395 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 2: you know, like in the case of Miley, when she 1396 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 2: wants to get back to her country roots, for example, 1397 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,640 Speaker 2: these artists have the privilege of being able to easily 1398 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 2: shed the persona that they had been appropriating. 1399 01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 3: Right And I think that the sort of most well 1400 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:08,559 Speaker 3: known arc of this takes place after the Hannimontana movie, 1401 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:14,799 Speaker 3: but surrounds Miley's album Bangers, which came out in twenty thirteen, 1402 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 3: which I think appropriated so heavily from black culture that 1403 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,400 Speaker 3: it was a topic of discussion in twenty thirteen, which is, 1404 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 3: you know, culturally a thousand years ago, right, But there 1405 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:33,799 Speaker 3: was a lot of criticism, rightfully, so, around how Miley 1406 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 3: incorporated black aesthetics into her music and into her music videos, 1407 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,479 Speaker 3: and there was also a lot of criticism of using 1408 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 3: black women and black dancers essentially as props during this 1409 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 3: I think particularly this album, but also just kind of 1410 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 3: throughout these couple of years, she generally would not respond 1411 01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 3: to these criticisms at all or just blow them off, 1412 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 3: would not engage with them seriously at all. 1413 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 2: Fain ignorance, that kind of thing. 1414 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 3: This goes into twenty fifteen, she hosts the MTV Music 1415 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 3: Video Music Awards the VMAs in Dreadlocks, and you're just like, well, 1416 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 3: I didn't I don't remember that but that and then 1417 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 3: I saw it and then I was like, well, that's horrible, 1418 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:26,679 Speaker 3: and like you were referencing Caitlin. That came back around 1419 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,880 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen when she did an interview in Billboard 1420 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 3: when she was sort of going back to country, completely 1421 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:42,559 Speaker 3: disavowing or really distancing herself from from hip hop in general, 1422 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 3: even though she was very clearly profiting off of off 1423 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 3: of hip hop for years, like half a decade, and 1424 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,719 Speaker 3: then she totally I mean, not only in this interview 1425 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,960 Speaker 3: does she distance herself, she also mocks it, and you know, 1426 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,880 Speaker 3: just I'm was like, do we want to share quotes 1427 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 3: it's kind of this too. It's gross. 1428 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to share quotes from that, but I 1429 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 2: would like to share quotes from a teen Vogue article 1430 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 2: by Michael arseno entitled Miley Cyrus faces rightful backlash in 1431 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,640 Speaker 2: the light of past cultural appropriation. It's from twenty seventeen. 1432 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 2: I'll switch back and forth from like direct quotes and paraphrasing, 1433 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 2: but it's a really good article. We will link it 1434 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 2: in our show notes. But Michael Arseneau speaks about white 1435 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 2: child stars trying to make a transition into bona fide 1436 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 2: adult star and what often happens with that, and how 1437 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus is a prime example of this. So quote. 1438 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 2: When they are younger, their squeaky clean presentation is incredibly profitable, 1439 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,640 Speaker 2: but unfortunately for them, they age out and soon run 1440 01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 2: the risk of becoming something that threatens their respective careers. Corny. 1441 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 2: They have to do something to hold on to their 1442 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,599 Speaker 2: fan bases, who, like them, are growing up and are 1443 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,519 Speaker 2: in search of new voices and sounds more aligned with 1444 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,360 Speaker 2: their newfound older interests. So they clamor for something that 1445 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 2: will convey rebellion, and they run right to black culture. 1446 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 2: Then Michael talks about America's obsession with black culture, which 1447 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 2: non black Americans generally perceive as cool. But respect for 1448 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 2: black culture does not extend to the Black people who 1449 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 2: are creating that culture, as they are the subjects of 1450 01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:47,839 Speaker 2: constant racial discrimination. And then Michael goes on to discuss 1451 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 2: the public backlash against Miley throughout the years regarding her 1452 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 2: appropriation of hip hop aesthetics and styles, And we already 1453 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 2: alluded to this, but like the very cringey comments she 1454 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 2: has made about it, or the ignorance she has feigned 1455 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 2: about it, things like that, and how easy it is 1456 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 2: for again white artists to co opt black culture for 1457 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,800 Speaker 2: personal gain, not only like money and profitability, but also 1458 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 2: as a like strategic like oh, I'm going to co 1459 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:26,400 Speaker 2: opt this culture to gain credibility and popularity and get 1460 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:31,040 Speaker 2: myself to a certain level of fame that I want 1461 01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,799 Speaker 2: to be in. And then when it no longer suits 1462 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,880 Speaker 2: an artist like Miley Cyrus, they're able to just shed 1463 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 2: that persona when they no longer feel it suits their interests. 1464 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 3: Right, and I think I mean other And again, like 1465 01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,799 Speaker 3: you were saying earlier, this is not a problem specific 1466 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 3: to her. She is one of the more prominent perpetrators 1467 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,800 Speaker 3: in the last ten years. But it's like, also in 1468 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,600 Speaker 3: the last ten years we have you know, Azalea and 1469 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:05,760 Speaker 3: Ariana Grande, and I know that I'm missing other white 1470 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 3: pop stars. And it's also not an issue that's specific 1471 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,200 Speaker 3: to white women, it's white artists writ large. 1472 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an interview between Sandersong and Emma Bracy on 1473 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 2: an episode of teen Vogue's Pop Feminist. We just love 1474 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 2: teen Vogue, but they talk about a lot of the 1475 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 2: same things that this article is discussing. And they also 1476 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 2: cite Katie Perry, Avril Lavine, Gwen Stefani, who all have 1477 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,320 Speaker 2: a history of appropriating East Asian culture. And then like 1478 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,760 Speaker 2: justin Timberlake, so many white artists. 1479 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 4: Really name a white pop star. 1480 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,200 Speaker 3: I think the list is shorter of artists who have 1481 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 3: not done it in the last twenty years. And you know, 1482 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,840 Speaker 3: going back obviously doesn't get better. Thank you for sharing 1483 01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 3: that I hadn't Yeah, I hadn't seen that article. 1484 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,760 Speaker 2: And then I'll share one last kind of closing thought 1485 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 2: from it quote, there is something to be said for 1486 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 2: an artist having the space to try new things. And 1487 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,360 Speaker 2: for many born of a certain age, hip hop culture 1488 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 2: has been the defining culture for their entire lives. But 1489 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 2: if you don't respect these subcultures you borrow from, you 1490 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,000 Speaker 2: are not so much curious as you are a charlatan. 1491 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 2: In a perfect world, black art made by black people 1492 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,320 Speaker 2: would be just as successful as the art made by 1493 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 2: a white artist who's inspired by it. In an ideal society, 1494 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,639 Speaker 2: what black people are vilified for wouldn't be so much 1495 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 2: more alluring when performed by white people. So yeah, I 1496 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 2: thought that was just a wonderful article with a lot 1497 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 2: of great points. 1498 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,320 Speaker 3: Let's link that in the description all. The last thing 1499 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 3: I wanted to say was I guess just referencing that 1500 01:22:55,200 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 3: Miley Syer has eventually did respond to these criticisms, not 1501 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:06,320 Speaker 3: until twenty nineteen that I was able to see. But 1502 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 3: I just thought it was interesting in the way that 1503 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 3: this happened because I didn't realize. It's a YouTube channel 1504 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 3: that I watch called As Told by Kenya, a woman 1505 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 3: named Kenya Wilson. She does great pop culture critique, and 1506 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:24,799 Speaker 3: she released a video in twenty nineteen called Miley Cyrus 1507 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,799 Speaker 3: is My Problematic Fave Sorry, which is a fun title, 1508 01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 3: but basically in that she goes through everything that we've 1509 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 3: spoken about and more in detail and sort of lays 1510 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 3: out how she feels about how because Milly's been silent 1511 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,719 Speaker 3: on this issue so long, like what is away forward? 1512 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 4: Is there a way forward? 1513 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,960 Speaker 3: And her personal opinion on like I still enjoy her work, 1514 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,599 Speaker 3: So how do I square this as a black woman? 1515 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,600 Speaker 3: And Miley Cyrus actually watched and commented on the vide 1516 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 3: and I mean it's not I just. 1517 01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:06,880 Speaker 4: Thought it was interesting. 1518 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 3: I'll share a short quote of what she responded. She said, quote, 1519 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,439 Speaker 3: there are decades of inequality that I am aware of, 1520 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,519 Speaker 3: but I still have a lot to learn about. Silence 1521 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,080 Speaker 3: is a part of the problem, and I refuse to 1522 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,760 Speaker 3: be quiet anymore. Simply said, I fucked up, and I 1523 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,719 Speaker 3: sincerely apologize. I'm committed to using my voice for healing, 1524 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,280 Speaker 3: change and standing up for what's right. 1525 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:27,679 Speaker 4: Which is very vague. 1526 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:33,599 Speaker 3: But the one thing that did feel, I guess the 1527 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:39,679 Speaker 3: most clear was I own the fact that saying quote 1528 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,519 Speaker 3: this pushed me out of the hip hop scene a 1529 01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,960 Speaker 3: little unquote, referencing that twenty seventeen interview was insensitive as 1530 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 3: it is a privilege to have the ability to dip 1531 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:52,320 Speaker 3: in and out of the scene, so you know, certainly 1532 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,680 Speaker 3: doesn't make anything right. But I also thought it was 1533 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 3: interesting that this was a conversation that. 1534 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 4: Is still ongoing and it. 1535 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 3: Doesn't correct anything that was done, but just that that 1536 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,439 Speaker 3: was a dialogue between Kenya Wilson and Miley Harris was interesting. 1537 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 3: And I'll send you we can link Kenya's video as well, 1538 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 3: because it is very comprehensive and she's just really fun 1539 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:22,639 Speaker 3: to watch. I really like her. 1540 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:26,719 Speaker 2: Hell yeah. So yeah, that's just something that we wanted 1541 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 2: to discuss that we didn't have time for in the 1542 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:38,000 Speaker 2: live show. And what we also failed to do in 1543 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:42,920 Speaker 2: the live show was take the nipple scale seriously. Oh yeah, 1544 01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 2: So we're going to give more serious answers for our 1545 01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,599 Speaker 2: nipple scale, which is of course the metric we use. 1546 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 2: It is a scale of zero to five nipples based 1547 01:25:55,280 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 2: on evaluating the movie through an intersectional feminist lens. 1548 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1549 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 2: I I'm now remembering why we didn't take it very 1550 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 2: seriously in the movie or in the episode, because uh, 1551 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:15,680 Speaker 2: this is a very silly movie. I don't know, I 1552 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:21,599 Speaker 2: guess like one and a half nipples. 1553 01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:26,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I'm like, I truly don't I mean, yeah, yeah, 1554 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:27,880 Speaker 3: one and a half nipples. 1555 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I won't say anything any further. 1556 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,640 Speaker 3: If you know, you know, I'm going one and a 1557 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,200 Speaker 3: half and I'm giving them to Reco for some reason. 1558 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,559 Speaker 2: Oh wait who yeah. 1559 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you when you're older. 1560 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:48,560 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, I'll give my nipples to character actor Margo Martindale. 1561 01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:56,000 Speaker 3: Amazing. Thank you again to Robert Evans and Too Curious 1562 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 3: Comedy Theater and to the entire audience that came out 1563 01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:06,360 Speaker 3: to that absolutely chaotic, bizarre show. And to Sophie Lichterman. 1564 01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,920 Speaker 3: We should be thanking her every single episode, but particularly 1565 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 3: this one, because not only did she was she kind 1566 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,840 Speaker 3: enough to come on stage for the show, but also 1567 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 3: like put us up and like Sarah's shout out to 1568 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 3: Sarah Marshall and Sophie Liuchdterman for giving us a place 1569 01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:29,879 Speaker 3: to lay our perfect, beautiful heads. Yes and yeah, hopefully 1570 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 3: you know we are planning to be on tour a 1571 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,759 Speaker 3: little bit in the fall, so keep your eyes peeled 1572 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 3: so you too can witness the terror that is a 1573 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:41,280 Speaker 3: Bechdel cast live show. 1574 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,400 Speaker 2: Will a knife get thrown at you? 1575 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,840 Speaker 3: I feel I'm gonna be so careful that that does 1576 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,760 Speaker 3: not happen again. But could be. 1577 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:53,400 Speaker 2: Fun, could be At the very least we will probably 1578 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,720 Speaker 2: eat hot dogs on stage and maybe wear wigs. 1579 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting into we're kind of entering our themed 1580 01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 3: costume at the show era, so yes, don't rule out 1581 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:05,599 Speaker 3: a wig. 1582 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you will find out about things like upcoming 1583 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 2: tours on our social media where you can follow us 1584 01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:19,639 Speaker 2: on Twitter and Instagram at Bechdel Cast. You can also 1585 01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:26,599 Speaker 2: always subscribe to the Matreon, which is at patreon dot 1586 01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,679 Speaker 2: com slash Bechtel Cast. 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And in the meantime, time 1595 01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 3: to get on your horse or whatever and go hang 1596 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,240 Speaker 3: out with Margot Martindale or whatever. 1597 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go into the chicken coop and collect three eggs. 1598 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,599 Speaker 3: And I'll collect whatever other appropriate number of eggs there 1599 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 3: are in there. 1600 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,519 Speaker 4: Bye bye, bye bye