1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with two words that start with tea, 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 3: Trump and tariffs. President Trump says he would prefer not 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 3: to impose tariffs on China. It's a softening compared to 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: his pre election thread of sixty percent additional import taxes. 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 4: Trump spoke with Fox News Channel's Handity, we have. 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 5: One very big power over China, and that's tariffs, and. 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 6: They don't want them, and I'd rather not have to 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 6: use it. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: President Trump has floated the idea of ten percent tariffs 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: on China from next month, but so far has stopped 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: short of imposing them on Beijing. 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 4: In his first days in office. 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, President Trump reiterated as tariffs threats in a 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: virtual speech to the World Economic Forum and Davos, and 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: he said he'll demand that Saudi Arabia and Opek and 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: bring down the cost of oil. 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 6: You got to bring it down, which, frankly, I'm surprised 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 6: they didn't do before the election. That didn't show a 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 6: lot of love by them not doing it. I was 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 6: a little surprised by that if the price came down, 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 6: the rush of Ukraine war would end immediately. 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: Those are marks when President Trump sent oil prices lower, 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: though it's unclear whether Opek will heed his call, and 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: the President said he would not stop there. 28 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 6: With oil prices going down, I'll demand that interest rates 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 6: drop immediately, and likewise they should be dropping all over 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 6: the world. Interest rates should follow us. 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: And in a surprise broadside, President Trumpec used a Bank 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: of America CEO Brian moynihan of limiting business with conservative clients, 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: telling him quote, I hope you start opening your bank 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 2: to conservatives, because what you're doing is wrong. 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: And on the topic of interest rates, Karen, President Trump 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: said he'll speak with Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell about 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: lowering rates at the quote right time. The President spoke 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: to reporters while signing executive orders in the Oval Office. 39 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 5: I think I know interest rates much better than they do, 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: and I think I know it's certainly much better than 41 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 5: the one who's primarily in charge of making that decision. 42 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 5: But no, I'm guided by them very much. But if 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 5: I disagree, I will let it be known. 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: President Trump spoke ahead of the first rate decision of 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five for J. 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: Powell and the FED that's coming up next week. 47 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, Senators may be working through the weekend to 48 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: get President Trump's cabinet appointees confirmed. Do we get that 49 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: story with bloomberge Dina Servetti. 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 7: So far, just two of Trump's picks have cleared, the 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 7: Senate Secretary of State Marco Rubio and CIA director John Ratcliffe. 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 7: But Defense nominee Pete Hegsith cleared a key procedural hurdle 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 7: yesterday despite opposition from two Republicans. He's set for a 54 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 7: final confirmation vote tonight. If the Senate sticks around this weekend, 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 7: it could vote on Scott Bessant for Treasury Secretary and 56 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 7: Christy Nome to lead Homeland Security. Other nominees, including Robert F. Kennedy, 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 7: Junior Tulci Gabbard, and Cash Pateel have here set for 58 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 7: next week. Gina Cervetti Bloomberg Radio. 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: Gina, thank you. 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: President Trump's pledge to keep TikTok operational in the US 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: is being handled differently by different tech giants. Bloomberg's John 62 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: Tucker's here with more on that story. So John sounds 63 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: like there's a little bit of confusion out there. 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 8: To say the least. 65 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 9: Nathan Apple and Google they remove the app from their 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 9: respective app stores to comply with the January nineteenth van, 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 9: and they've held off on relisting TikTok. The app's been 68 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 9: unavailable for the past five days, even after Trump's pledge 69 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 9: that the government won't enforce the law that raised potential penalties. Oracle, 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 9: on the other hand, they have kept TikTok operational. Oracle 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 9: provides cloud services for TikTok and lawmakers and other Washington insiders. 72 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 9: They have raised concerns even with a nod for Donald Trump. 73 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 9: The critics argue the company could open itself up to 74 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 9: lawsuits from current shareholders and massive fines from a future 75 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 9: administration that may want to retroactively enforce those penalties. There's 76 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 9: also the possibility that Donald Trump could change his mind 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 9: on enforcement. In New York, I'm John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: All right, John, thank you well. President Trump is heading 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: to hurricane battered Western and North Carolina and wildfire ravaged 80 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Meanwhile, firefighters across southern California are making progress 81 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: battling new blazes that were fanned by gusty wins. The 82 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: new wildfires come a week's after other blazes killed twenty 83 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: eight people, displaced thousands, and destroyed more than sixteen thousand structures. 84 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: A forecast of rain this weekend is offering the potential 85 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: for some relief. 86 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: Well, Karen Let's turn to markets now. 87 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: Futures are modestly lowered this morning, following a record close 88 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: for the S and P five hundred and several key 89 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: stocks are on the move, watching shares of Boeing. 90 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 4: They are down nearly two percent in early trading. 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: The planemaker posted preliminary sales about a billion and a 92 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: half dollars below estimates. Overall, Boeing, which is hit by 93 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: a workers strike, loss roughly four billion dollars in the quarter. 94 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: Well Nathan shares of Texas Instruments are down almost five percent. 95 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: The chip maker gave it pointing Earning's forecast for the 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: current period. Analysts say it's a sign it's still contending 97 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: with still sluggish chip demand and higher cost tied to 98 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: a factory expansion in Europe. 99 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: Karen's shares of Eric Center down more than eight percent. 100 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: The Swedish telecom missed analysts forecasts for earnings in the 101 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. 102 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: On the flip side, Nathan Shears Burbery higher by twelve 103 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: and a half percent to pick up a US demand, 104 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: boosted the Trench code makers results. Sales in the America's 105 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: unexpectedly climbed well, China fell less than estimated. 106 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: And oh, it's staying in the Asia Pacific, Karen. The 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: Bank of Japan raised its key policy rate to the 108 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: highest level in seventeen years and took a more bullish 109 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: view on the strength of inflation. Boj lifted the overnight 110 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: call rate by a quarter percentage point to half percent. 111 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: The decisions feeling expectations for more rate hikes and is 112 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: supporting the end checking it against the dollar right now 113 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: it is stronger at one fifty five point seven zero. 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: And it's time now for a look at some of 115 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: the their stories making news in New York and around 116 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: the world. And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 117 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 4: Michael, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. 118 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 8: A federal judge in Washington State has temporarily blocked President 119 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 8: Trump's executive order denying US citizenship to the children born 120 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 8: from undocumented parents living in the country. The hearing didn't 121 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 8: even take a half an hour. Judge John Kunauer said 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 8: in his four decades on the bench, he'd never seen 123 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 8: such a clear case. That Reagan appointee called President Trump's 124 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 8: order blatantly unconstitutional and said it boggles his mind that 125 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 8: any lawyer would unequivocally assert otherwise. President Trump pledged to 126 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 8: fight it. 127 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 6: Obviously will appeal if they put it before a certain 128 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: judge in Seattle. 129 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: I guess right, and there's no surprises with that judge. 130 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 8: Loyola Law School professor Jessica Levinson. 131 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 10: For a judge at a temporary restraining order to say 132 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 10: blatantly unconstitutional, it is where emphasizing that you don't typically 133 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 10: see that type of language at this initial stage. 134 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 8: Professor Levinson spoke to CBS. Trump's order aims to block 135 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 8: the issuance of passports and Social Security numbers to children 136 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 8: born to undocumented women or on temporary visas unless the 137 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 8: father is a US citizen or a Green card holder, 138 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 8: and ice raid conducted at a Newark, New Jersey business 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 8: as the city's mayor outraged, immigration officials took away three 140 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 8: workers who couldn't prove citizenship while working at the Ocean 141 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 8: Seafood Depot in Newark. The owner of that business. Luis 142 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 8: Ganoda believes this was a step too far. 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: I feel that we have to be a country law, 144 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: but go off. 145 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: To bad people, not working people. Visit people, these a 146 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: family people? Is it people that would show up to 147 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: work every day. 148 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 8: The raid yesterday was part of a nationwide enforcement following 149 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 8: President Trump's executive order. One of the people taken into 150 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 8: custody was a US veteran. In a statement, Newark Mayor 151 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 8: Baraka called it egregious and a violation of the Fourth Amendment. 152 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 8: Baraka insists the proper warrant was not presented. President Trump 153 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 8: has ordered the release of thousands of classifying the governmental 154 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 8: records related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. 155 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 8: The executive order Trump signed yesterday also aims to declassify 156 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 8: records relating to the assassinations of Senator Robert F. Kennedy 157 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 8: and Martin Luther King Jr. Global News twenty four hours 158 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 8: a day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now. 159 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 8: Michael Barn, This is Bloomberg Karen Uncle Barr. 160 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: Thank you time now for the Bloomberg Scores update, brought 161 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: to you by try Stan Outy. Here's John Stanshauer John. 162 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning, Karen Novak. 163 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 11: Djokovich is at ten for an eleventh Australian Open title, 164 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 11: a record breaking twenty fifth Grand Slam, and then suddenly 165 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 11: in Melbourney at upset Carlos Alcarez in the quarterfinals despite 166 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 11: taking an injury time out getting his left leg taped 167 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 11: up of the semis. 168 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 8: He took on alex Zavera. 169 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 11: They've played a long and tight first sets of Vera 170 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 11: won a tiebreaker and then the match was over. 171 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 8: Djokovic was struggling. He didn't know how Battley Patrick he did. 172 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: And the cloud is absolutely stunted. 173 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 11: Stunned. 174 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: Lady Shanny, his name was seconds. 175 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: Ago is he was very much in that tipe breaking 176 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: second did he missed the volley. 177 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 11: To lose the set. 178 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: He came forward to shake. 179 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 8: Hands and this is for disappointing the drive at twenty 180 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 8: five NS right here on ESPN. 181 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 11: Djokovic said later due to the muscle tear in the leg, 182 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 11: he would not have been able to finish even had 183 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 11: he won that first set. 184 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 8: Soaver evern the. 185 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 11: Final will take you on the winner of the match 186 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 11: going on now. Top seed Yannick Sinner just won a 187 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 11: first set tiebreaker from the Herd, serving young American Ben Shelter. 188 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 11: The Rangers on November nineteenth were twelve and four. Rest 189 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 11: of twenty twenty four they went four and fifteen, but 190 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 11: since the new year began there are eight, one and 191 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 11: three very much back in the playoff picture. 192 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: It was easy at the Garden. 193 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 11: Sixty one rout of Philadelphia was six different goal scorers. 194 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 11: The capital is a top the NHL. They won three 195 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 11: nothing at Seattle career goal number eight seventy five for 196 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 11: a Solovashkian. Bruins won two nothing over Ottawa Celtics in LA. 197 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 11: Lost to the Lakers once seventeen ninety six Spurs meet 198 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 11: the Pacers in Paris. NBA All Stars starters announced some 199 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 11: familiar names Lebron James, Kevin durand Steph Curry, and two 200 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 11: next were named Jalen Brunston and Karl Anthony Towns. Thirty 201 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 11: nine year old Liam Cohen is the new coach of 202 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 11: the Jacksonville Jaguars. He had been coaching Tampa Bay's offense. 203 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 11: The Cowboys said to be moving closer to promoting Brian Schottenheimer, 204 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 11: Dallas's current offensive Cornada. The Atlanta Braves have signed free 205 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 11: agent outfielder Jerkson Profar just had his best season with 206 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 11: San Diego. 207 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 4: John Stanshallen Bloomberg. 208 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: Sports Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius Exam, 209 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 210 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 211 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. 212 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: President Trump is calling for lower oil prices, lower interest rates, 213 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: and higher tariffs in a virtual address to the global 214 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: elites gathered at the World Economic Forum. 215 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 6: In my message to every business in the world is 216 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 6: very simple. Come make your product in America and we 217 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 6: will give you among the lowest taxes of any nation 218 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 6: on Earth. 219 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: We're bringing them. 220 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 6: Down very substantially, even from the original Trump tax cuts. 221 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: And the President reiterated that message at the Oval Office 222 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 3: and in an interview with Fox News Channel. Joining us 223 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: now is doctor Lindsay Newman, geopolitical risk analyst and calumnist 224 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: at G zero Media. Thanks for being with us this morning, 225 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: doctor Newman. The President is reiterating these tariff threats at 226 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: the same time, though saying in that Fox interview that 227 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: he would rather not impose tariffs on China. Where do 228 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: you see the message from the President when it comes 229 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 3: to the potential for trade wars with adversaries and allies 230 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: at this point. 231 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 12: Thanks Nathan, thank you for having me on again. It's 232 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 12: a great question around what is the signal and what 233 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 12: is the noise here. As you said, he said in 234 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 12: his Davos remarks yesterday that he thinks the relationship with China, 235 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 12: he expects it to be very good. He wants a 236 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 12: fair relationship, he said. He doesn't need to be phenomenal, 237 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 12: but he does want it to be fair. And as 238 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 12: you said, he said he would rather not He knows 239 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 12: China doesn't want those tariffs and posted and he himself 240 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 12: would rather not impose those tariffs. But he also went 241 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 12: on to then say it is a tremendous point of 242 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 12: power or a tremendous point of leverage. We're hearing this 243 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 12: number right now, around ten percent tariffs to be imposed 244 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 12: on China, potentially to be imposed on China on February first, 245 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 12: a far cry from the sixty to one hundred percent 246 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 12: tariffs that he talked about during the campaign trail. But 247 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 12: I think we need to be cautious here. And here's 248 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 12: my one indicator that I would suggest to watch already, 249 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 12: which is that in his executive order for trade, the 250 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 12: sweeping America First Trade Policy Executive Order, he has instructed 251 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 12: his team to not only investigate all and review all 252 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 12: potential areas where tariffs could be warranted, but he's also 253 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 12: setting up this external reserve services. You don't set up 254 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 12: an organization to collect tariffs if you're not looking to 255 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 12: collect tariffs. 256 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: The President also said he was going to demand that 257 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia and OPEK bring down the cost of oil, 258 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: couching it as the idea that it could help bring 259 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine to a more rapid end. 260 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: What did you make of that comment. 261 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,359 Speaker 12: It was a really interesting one because most of yesterday's 262 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 12: address by Trump at the World Economic Forum was really 263 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 12: just a highlight reel of what his very young administration 264 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 12: has already done in this first week, including taking responsibility 265 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 12: for that ceasefire agreement in Israel, and then of course 266 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 12: all these executive orders, which he touched on everything from 267 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 12: inflation to deregulation efforts, immigration, etc. But then he broke 268 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 12: some news, as you're saying here about this energy point, 269 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 12: where he's saying he's going to ask the Kingdom and 270 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 12: Obak to bring down oil pricing. We saw since that 271 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 12: discussion he in fact, since this point that he raised it, 272 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 12: oil did come down. And as you said, he even 273 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 12: connected very interestingly the ongoing conflict in Russian Ukraine with 274 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 12: height and oil price is saying he was even a 275 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 12: bit if the sense was that he was a bit 276 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 12: miffed that the prices haven't come down, because if they would, 277 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 12: he thinks that the war would end immediately, and he's 278 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 12: been very clear about how this war needs to end immediately. 279 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 12: This relationship is one that we're going to have to 280 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 12: watch closely. We should be watching closely between the US 281 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 12: and Saudi Arabia, Between Donald Trump and MBS, we know, 282 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 12: for example, that they had that the first foreign Leader's 283 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 12: call was with MBS, where they talked about the kingdom's 284 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 12: ambitions over the next years and next four years and 285 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 12: how they can collaborate together. I wouldn't be surprised if, 286 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 12: yet again, that is Donald Trump's first foreign trip. 287 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: And how about the relationship between President Trump and global 288 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: central banks. We heard the President in the Oval Office 289 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: yesterday saying that he knows interest rates better than Jay 290 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: Powell does. That he at the Davos forum called for 291 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: central banks around the world to follow the US lead 292 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: and lowering interest rates. 293 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: Do you see a threat to FED independence? 294 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 12: This is classic Donald Trump. This is nothing new. We 295 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 12: saw it during first his first term where he also 296 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 12: had these barbs around interest rates. In Powell, really, I 297 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 12: would not expect anything sort of substantive there. We can 298 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 12: expect more of that same rhetoric, and it is a 299 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 12: point of leverage that he looks to apply to make 300 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 12: it clear to both the domestic and global audience that 301 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 12: he's going to ask for what he expects, and he's 302 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 12: going to make clear what he expects, and he expects 303 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 12: to see interest rates come down both further at home 304 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 12: and in the global in the global economy. But Powell 305 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 12: has been very clear about holding the line and domestic 306 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 12: FED independence. 307 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: Just thirty seconds left, He's going to ask for what 308 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: he wants. Do you expect the world to answer? 309 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: Well? 310 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 12: So far, we've seen a ceasefire agreement in Israel that 311 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 12: was at a logjam for many, many months on the 312 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 12: Biden administration. It's this way in which he will intend 313 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 12: to be quite ambitious, sort of flooding the field with 314 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 12: his asks using both Caroden sticks this time around in 315 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 12: which he will He will reshape the world. 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