WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Organized Noize Part 2 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.720 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Yo. What's 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:06.280 Up Everybody? 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.080 This is fun Tigalo from Questlove Supreme and part one 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.840 of our Atlanta interview with Organized Noise. We discussed how 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.960 the gods Rico Waite, Sleeping Brown and Ray Murray got 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.479 down together. We also heard how they changed the game 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.759 in terms of sampling and really gave Atlanta a musical 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.079 identity and rap. Please make sure you check out the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.560 first half of that interview, and that'll way back apart two. 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.360 This discussion is gonna be just as rich and even better. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.200 I know y'all gonna enjoy this one. I enjoyed this one. 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:35.280 These brothers are legends and gods to me only on 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.640 q LS, Yes Her Peace. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:53.840 What happens when suddenly the student wants to become the teacher? Like, 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.080 what's the division of labor in terms of you know, 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.560 I'm sure that you guys are a tight three tight 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:01.440 unit that. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.639 Handles the music Noise versus Earth Tone three. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.360 What was the Yeah, we wanted them, we wanted them 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.399 to learn them if we wanted if we wanted them 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:10.840 not to learn that, they wouldn't have been in the 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:11.720 sitting there next to us. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.320 While we're doing it. So we wanted them to. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:19.040 But how how are you guys as friends and as 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:22.840 business partners when it's time for bad news and production? 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.479 Who's the person that has to like, can you talk 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.280 about a song that almost didn't make it? 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:32.919 Like well to be very honest with our dynamic because 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.080 it was a Parliament type of family. So it's like 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.679 you had a George Clinton, then you got Boosty. You 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.640 got all these different people who came from this that 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.440 was great. Everybody legends, but they all rock with somebody 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.000 because that person had the thought process that they all 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:54.240 agreed upon. Ray and Sleepy thought process musically hip hop, drums, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:02:02.080 rawness and music, vocals, harmonies being live organic, who's not 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:03.520 using that now? 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.559 Who's not who? It's like we got all. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.799 The not not thinking about the breaks as much. All 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.079 the thinking about is the breaks. Like, so you got 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.000 a marriage of like something like a sound that becomes 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.160 a sound. Me the competitor. We're gonna compete with whoever 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.520 else doing it, because we got it. I got the 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.160 so we're gonna compete whatever I need to learn or 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:28.840 to bring to it as far as musicians, as far as. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.359 The lame part, what kid Win, who cares what kew in? 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:31.800 I need to know what keep in, so I can't 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.040 say eybody know what I'm saying, Like but like they 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.880 just they just doing it so big and Drake se 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:43.600 Lo guilp anybody, p A Reese, anybody who's around these 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.000 two people when they were making music, Oh, me and us, 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.280 it was us, but just how hardcore they were about 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.040 their things. Like wed if Ever, if he didn't care, 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.520 none of his beats came out. We're gonna make them 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.120 every day and just throw them to the side. You 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.320 had so you you you around people who's acting like that, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:00.960 you might think. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.040 Like God, it's some dope. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.400 He just turns it off, went to something else. I 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.000 want a chance to do it. You want to follow 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.960 into it because you want to do it your way. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.240 Nobody ain't gonna do it the way these casts are 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.320 doing it. But you're gonna learn so much Kanye West, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.720 any of these producers, like like what Organized Noise did 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.760 wasn't one person, you know what I'm saying, And while 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.040 they was working, I might have been at the store 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.240 of buying sounds, you know what I'm saying, or whatever, 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.440 like whatever it took budget like someone who can be 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.280 like that's let's pay for it. Yes, we could pocket 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.320 more money. Like we learned a big lesson from Parental 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.080 Advisory with Pebbles. We use a lot of samples, and 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.560 she told us, she was like, well, you got like 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.240 ninety thousand dollars left in your budget and you guys 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.320 get the remainder of the budget, but you got to 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.120 give me all the samples first. Let me clear the 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.000 samples first. Then we end up getting negative three thought 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.760 old out right, you know what I'm saying. So from 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.920 that point, from that day we started working on outcasts. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.000 Like that's when we had found outcasts, so we knew 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.760 it's gonna be hip hop, but we we fin to 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.000 get better. So I had started incorporating with Sleepy New 0:03:58.040 --> 0:03:59.880 with live musicians want to. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.080 Y'all too by some of y'all session musicians like Chance 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.839 Parkman and like some of the guys like who what's 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:05.640 y'all's relationship? 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.360 Yeah, Preston from Preston Kenneth Right. Kenneth Wright was one 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.480 of the first ones when we did outcasts. They end 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.120 up kind of drifting to the church a little more 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:13.000 but great. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.800 And who was playing piano on probably one of one 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:20.200 of my favorite productions. Y'll ever growing old Nigga? That's chance, 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:24.039 that's chance it is on that, dude, there's a chance. Okay, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.919 there's an at Alien sampler that came out and it 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.799 has a version of growing on on it. 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:33.039 I think it's an early version, right looking at that 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.679 tenth rocks fat ass to turn the flap. 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.160 Yeah, it's a verse. It's before I guess y'all played version. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.000 I like the at Ali's version, the one that came out. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.160 That's like, that's the one. But was that the reason 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:46.400 why y'all took the sample out? 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.440 What sample was it? I don't know the sample. It 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:50.279 was just a different version. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.360 I don't remember a different version sample was I don't 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.479 remember no sample. If it was a different version, I. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:01.080 Know, I know, I don't know. Maybe this is a 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:05.279 piece negotiation. It is a piece of I don't know 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.040 who did. It was just a different version. It was 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:07.839 a different version. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.160 This is why I said, this is yeah, but no, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.000 that's like just a gorgeous FU song had spoken. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.520 I was just I was thinking it was about that 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.600 that Markuez Marquis wrote that hook or whatever, like and 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.440 Hades did waterfalls, so like we just wanted to sound. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.920 We felt like we owe outcasts of record that sounded 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.360 more like something, even if it wasn't if it wasn't 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.880 a third single or whatever. We felt like since we 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.080 produced them, we got to present some of the kind 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.040 of music that we've done on other artists. And that's 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.520 something else I want to say two quest. It's like 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.880 why we never had that problem with Big and Dre 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.120 because we was going like we we had waterfalls out 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.320 before they second out, they thought we would have these 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.520 are the guys whoever they put out. They didn't know 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.640 Outcast was gonna end up being twenty million sellers. And 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.880 what I'm saying, it's like but they took they they 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.400 had a like in vogue, like even the fact that 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.839 we did sell Therapy Rock New York like this this 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.040 this song and watch for the hook. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:08.640 I watch for the hook. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.120 When we did the Tunnels in New York City the 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:22.800 night that I knew New York loved m famous my 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.440 theory watched I thought that was like y'all's answer to Benjamins, 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.600 Like it's you know what I mean, just the sixteenth 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.039 pats that like it felt it felt like that like 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.919 a y'all's answer to like what the East Coast Club 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:35.600 record was. 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:42.760 It's the foundation of hip hop. Yes, break I would 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:42.960 do that. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:56.679 I'm gonna do, but you gotta understand, like just listen, listen. 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.120 I just want to say this, this is this is 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:00.440 hip hop from the South. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:00.720 Right. 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.680 What song do we say, No Southern Man, come on, 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.920 come on saying brother man. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.320 It's said brother man, you and everybody else. But if 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.680 you dug in the crates, you'd be like, man, this 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.160 song called Southern Man. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.520 Come on man? Oh yeah, killed that. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.239 No East Point is great listen, man, like that record 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.440 I remember reading, but just all the stuff that happened 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.080 with Intersco and everything, like y'all's production on that album. 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.000 Man, like Witch Doctor. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:35.000 And Cool Breeze, Like man, y'all was in the zone 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:36.239 and that ship. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:37.640 And really we were just giving back. 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.480 We did Goodie Mob abut every time we was in 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.080 a position to do what you said, keep it rough 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:47.240 and raw, even if we sacrifice having a commercial, bigger success, 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:53.280 we put some swat healing Rich, Witch Doctor, like I'm saying, like, 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.280 and Cool Brees and it was like it's like it's 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.920 like it's like is dirty South. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:07:59.280 For one. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.720 It was on the Goodie Mob album but he the 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.920 one who said what you really know about the dirty side? 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.600 It's his song, so it's almost like it was his 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.760 song get Up, get out. That's see low that was 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.200 his song. Wow, it was on Outcast album, but it 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.520 was his song. See That's what they did as a family, 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.520 like like like being around it was like it was 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.640 our Wu Tang other people. They were setting their people up, 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.360 you know what I'm saying, and not doing it too 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.400 commercially like you know, like it's BBD Boys and Men 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.960 and ABC like, but but doing it like that because 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:27.600 we come from. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:27.720 R and B. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.240 You know what me and Re always talked about, if 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.240 that first Outcast album would have been called Dudgeon Family, 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.160 people would get it more, people would get it on, 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.679 and we would be in the same thing as Wu Tang. Yeah, 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.400 because y'all put everybody on. Everybody. That's what the album was. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.680 It was just our care. It was everything set up. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.280 Working on this song was everybody was around that every 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:50.720 day like literally because these kids was kids fifteen, sixteen, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.959 seventeen during it and by time he worked on that album, 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.080 there was seventeen you mean or whatever, So so at 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:59.320 that point we put them first. But the same time. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.280 We all knew it was all our opportunity. So I 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.559 need I need your best, I need your best. They 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.080 gotta they gotta do their part. They gotta do their part. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.160 But everywhere where there's a little spot sleep, I'm gonna 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.840 need you to do funky ride. I'm saying, yeah, big 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.560 route right onto the real to. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.120 The question. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:24.079 Free Wow to open the album with that really could 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.760 have been an anthem at no point where you guys like, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.800 let's make this a song, like a full fledged. 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.520 Song, and that ain't with the drums yet. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.920 Free and You May Die, which is like my favorite 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:37.840 intro of any album. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.240 I'm gonna have this about free first because because this 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.360 caught this, this thing been happening all day. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.960 Philly in Atlanta got that soul. We got that soul. 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.320 You know why, because my my, when our big brothers 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.439 McKinley Horton, he came down here, just jumped on to 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:59.720 McKenley Horton from Philly, Philly, forget, he just jumped. He 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:05.079 just jumps on the worldlesser or whatever, just started singing. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.520 It was church. I'm like, man, it was not put 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.160 together the type of thing like like. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.679 You always just like it. It was a flex to 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.120 it was another tool. It was like ce Lo is 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.200 wrong and you see and you see where he is now. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.000 We was that, you know, like we wasn't holding him back, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.280 but we was making a street rap album. These cats 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.400 a lot of the peers that just had died, like 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.640 from school. It was very and we had the power 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:33.280 to not make them a goodie mind fun group, even 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.280 though that was obviously what you're supposed to do. After Outcast, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.880 you got you got this, Yes, you got this Parliament 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.240 type of funky music. I know, you bring these guys 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.079 out funkier and and this and stuff, but we were like, naw, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.679 we wanted to dig deeper into hip hop and and 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:48.839 make them see that we respect that. We know we 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.719 got the gloss on us or whatever, but but we're 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.839 serious about this. That's why the next Outcast album we 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.320 dumbed it down with with with singing hooks and try 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.000 to make it more wrap hooks or whatever. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:58.760 At Ali. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.280 Now for me, like the genius of Elevators was the 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.240 whole Greek course. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.280 Yes, yes, that was George. 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:15.800 Yeah, that's what we want to, you know, say, makes 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.480 it sound like an old parliament where they're on stage. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:19.920 We want them to beate it before. 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.960 In the so re Read reveals to us the process 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.600 of speaker Box and Level Below and the fact that 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.800 speaker Box was just his solo record, and then he says, 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.680 Drake called it was like, when is this shit coming out? 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.600 And Read was like, uh, you know, in five weeks. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.560 He's like, if I if I finished my thing, Like 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.199 when I have to turn in he said, like three weeks. 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:42.360 Three weeks, that's what he said. 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.760 So for twenty one days he rushes, are you guys 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:51.839 even aware that Dre now creates that or has been 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.120 creating that record and has a twenty one day deadline 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.080 to finish everything. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.440 Big Boy and Dre were going back and forth with 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.839 that for almost a year before It's like they said 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:02.640 they wasn't gonna work again. This is when they told 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.880 us that this is their last album and we might 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.079 not and they want to do it at that point, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.480 and I mean, I know Antonio probably said it, but 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.360 the guys, And that's where he does get credit. He 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.040 gets a lot of credit because he saved outcast the 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.280 brand and that's something that he was invested into from 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.280 day one, Like he knew that this is big in 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.240 this as the world this is like, like what this 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.640 was huge? Like this is a Whitney Houston, this is 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.840 a Tony Braxton, this is a big group. Like that's right, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.480 Like that's when he used his business skills and then 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.160 let them sabotage their own selves. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:34.439 You know what I'm saying by like looking like. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.120 So he was like, man, put them out together. But 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.640 so but the fact of whatever debtline you're talking about, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.680 I know that I'm lucky. I'm happy that Big Boy 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.920 had the way you moved because I think they doubted 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.920 Andre's album. They thought he didn't want to put Andre 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:51.520 Albu outcause din't think that it was right. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.960 I'm I wanted to make sure they're big because like 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.120 you know, we knew with Dre it was going to 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.760 be different what it was going to be. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.319 And thank god that, you know, we came up with. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.000 The way You moved because I ain't gonna lie, man, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.719 I was nervous for Big you know what I mean, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.440 just because you know, not saying that the popularity was 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.480 with Drake Moore, but people were actually waiting to hear. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.719 It's funny how like you know, I'm sitting over at 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.840 the house at a cookout and Big has this CD 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.520 player has two hundred CD changing and I'm sitting in 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.400 the Boomoo room and all of a sudden, this beat 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.800 comes on there. He had this song for like three 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.680 years and it was the way you moved, but it 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.920 was broken all the way down. Then had the horns. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.040 It just had a little d D the little keyboard 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:46.520 because I little buddy of Carmo did the beat. So 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.520 when I heard that beat, I started. It reminded me 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.679 of Marvin, so I started humming to No. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:52.959 No No. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.400 I was like, oh shit, So I ran out of 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.360 the busy. Big we gotta go to the studio to night. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.600 I got a crazy hook for this one. And the 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.840 way you who was actually going to be my record. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.160 You were going to do a whole new record for 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.280 Big and BIB like, yeah, we could do that. But 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.599 when La, when La reheard it, he was like, fuck no, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:12.080 that's your rat. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:12.880 Yeah yeah. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.080 So I'm happy that it did because I didn't hear 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:16.640 hey y'all. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.560 Bro. I did not hear hey y'all till I saw 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:19.000 the video. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.840 But how perfect was it that y'all had? Like Big Boy? 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.320 It was great because he had the fucking radio hit 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.360 right because the black radio hit whereas. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:37.080 The old timeout, So all right for me probably I'll 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.000 say the end of you know, no rap, work day whatever, 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.720 where every every major cosmopolitan city with the black radio 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.080 station still had their like, you know, more music, less rap, 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.360 you know whatever. That kind of died down in maybe 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.240 two thousand and five, two thousand and six. But for me, 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:59.040 all right, so WDS, which is the not the conservative 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:00.440 but the older it's. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:00.640 Not the highest. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:02.400 It's called the urban. 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:07.000 Yeah, the urban station. Do you realize that for least 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:12.000 half of the radio stations playing the Way You Move, 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.160 we're playing a big boiler's version of that song? 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:16.600 Yeah? 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.360 Yeah, literally, like where's the verse? And I was like, yo, 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.000 they actually made a whole ass song. They play your 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.120 Bridge twice as the verse. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.360 And I heard that when I was in La after 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:29.920 it came out and I was playing pool. 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.960 So did the label do that or did you guys 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:32.320 do that? 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:32.440 Like? 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:33.160 No, nothing. 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:37.040 What happens is that in order to get your spins up, 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.440 you can't turn down, Like do you know they played 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:43.640 Waterfalls without Left Eye on those same stations they took 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.000 a verse out? Yeah what I'm saying so, but it 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.840 was those stations that we don't listen to We don't 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.240 listen to them, but those stations generate so much. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.800 Still need the BDS is you need, you need the spins, 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:55.840 you need to spin, Like, if that's what y'all need, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:56.960 you need to span. 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.760 It's disrespectful. So they don't even tell the artists because 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.720 it's rude. I kind of fly over you had you 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.680 sleep it brown version. I don't hate my brother big 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.440 I love but you know it kind of it worked, 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.400 It worked, it did, sposed to do work, sposed to do. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:25.000 So any point between like the first momentum of organized noise, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.920 Let's say when the Socks and Draws come out ninety two, 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:33.680 the original player Ball Christmas ninety two, right, yeah, so 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.040 between hundree all right, so speak of boxes two thousand 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.760 and three, So that's in your period. At no point 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.000 were you guys just like, hey, let's do like, let's 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.240 really be a group now, or were you just like, no, 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.280 we'll well, we'll be the pilots of the ship and 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:50.920 just produce all their stuff. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.320 They man, I used to beg these foods to be 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.720 a group. Man, they never want to do it. 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.800 So was so was the closest well of Raby back 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.160 is that the closest y'all came with like society, soul 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.640 and sleepy, and it was the closest. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:08.000 We're not sleeping thing because want to be a part yeah, society, society. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.520 So there was a part we didn't want to be 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.440 a part of the party. But la Reed said he 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.119 wasn't gonna do the group unless all all of us 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:16.560 in it. So it was like it would literally be 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.119 like they were going the road, big Rub and Esperanza, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.760 Me and Ray would pop up whenever whatever. We just 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.560 looked at like Jim James Lewis was just gonna be. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.359 The producer never as bad as I wanted to you 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:27.480 know what I'm saying, wanted to be a. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:28.680 Group with them. 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.360 You know, you got to realize like we had took 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.560 on something very like it's like what we were doing 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.760 for our own little family as far as you know, 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.399 but but what we did for the South, how we 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.480 had inspired like we really we were like in the 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.960 way I was balancing Puff with these weekends and ship 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:46.040 like we was important. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:52.920 Was the problem was talking about that? Talking about that? 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.840 Talk about No, I'm just saying that, like Puffy is 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.280 the king of marketing promotions and he was a part 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:03.560 of know, you know, you don't want you didn't want 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.400 this bad boys shit coming in your city just taking over, 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.439 but it was coming, it was it was coming. So 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.320 it was more like everybody just wanted me to kind 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.760 of like be against it. But I'm like, this nigga's coming. 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.160 Right right, I got. 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.680 So we're gonna play tough, but at the end of 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.520 the day, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna work together. 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.720 We're gonna work together because of respect. And that's the 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.320 way that God bless Kim Porter you know I'm saying, has 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.440 passed away. But Kim would call me, Yeah, yeah, Kim 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.360 would call me and be like he got he wanted 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:35.919 to show respace. He don't wanna do that with your 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.159 main and that knows it, and and not do not 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:39.560 showing no respect to Dungeon families. 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:40.920 There was more of a puff. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.159 Knew how to talk to people, he knew how to 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:43.760 trick you to get to do what you want to do. 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.199 So but that was important, but it was also like 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.080 a half so a little bit even though you forget 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.199 how important marketing it is or whatever, you forget how 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:55.040 important the promotion is, but really, you know, we really 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.120 just want to make music and really figure out other 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.359 ways of getting more like different stuff out because Atlanta 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.560 was but India I read with these it's it's such 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.040 a wild It's like we don't set this hip hop off, 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.160