WEBVTT - NFL Draft Triple Take (EDGE), April 10, 2022

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Triple Take, presented by U P m C. Mike Pursued, A,

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<v Speaker 1>Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson. We've still got the pedal down.

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<v Speaker 1>We are still plowing through the prospects to get you

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<v Speaker 1>as ready as possible for the NFL Draft. Only the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers scouts guys are gonna be more prepared than the

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<v Speaker 1>people who have been with us since day one. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's only if they've been among the people who have

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<v Speaker 1>been with us. They have to watch them all, not

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<v Speaker 1>just the first take, but the second take as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second take. UH, as you may or may

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<v Speaker 1>not know by now. If you don't, this will be

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<v Speaker 1>news to you that the second take is not a

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<v Speaker 1>top five at the position. It's a riser, faller and sleeper. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>Just trying to get the conversation, UH a little more

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<v Speaker 1>nuanced and UH maybe throw some more names out there

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<v Speaker 1>for discussion than you would get in a standard top five. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that uh, Dale and Matt, who conspire the

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<v Speaker 1>drive on s n R and have conspired to be

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<v Speaker 1>in complete agreement more often than not on these programs,

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<v Speaker 1>both of you guys are agreement on your riser. Who

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<v Speaker 1>would like to take the floor first to discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>great Trayvon Walker. Go ahead, Matt Sin we apparently share

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<v Speaker 1>a brain. Yeah, I'm gonna call kind of an audible

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<v Speaker 1>here too. I mean, I think this one's just so

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<v Speaker 1>obvious with Trayvon Walker, and I'll let they'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>him mostly, but since we're talking edges and linebackers, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna include the other Walker from Georgia as well as

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<v Speaker 1>an off the ball linebacker, Quay Walker. Travon is almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a combination athletically not production. And this goes to

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<v Speaker 1>their combine numbers of J. J. Watt and Von Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that sounds remarkable, but that's exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of numbers he posted. But Quay the linebacker, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's rocketing up boards as well, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>do so much with him. He has extreme length, he

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<v Speaker 1>can cover tight ends out of the slot, he can blitz,

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<v Speaker 1>he can play off the ball. His numbers were tremendous too,

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<v Speaker 1>So two Walkers from Georgia. Yeah, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Walker Trayvon Walker. Um, I know everybody raved about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the big guys running. This guy came in a

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<v Speaker 1>six five to seventy two and ran a four five

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<v Speaker 1>to forty at two hundred and seventy two pounds. It's

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<v Speaker 1>his three coundrel was six point eight nine. Uh. It

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<v Speaker 1>just really easy change of direction for him. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>got thirty five inch arms long there. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just a physical freak. Uh. And so I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a lot of of of movement for him up

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<v Speaker 1>the draft boards here. You know, I know he was considered,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an easy first round draft pick, but now

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're talking top five with him. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I had to put him as my riser at

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<v Speaker 1>that position. There's even some talk that he could be

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<v Speaker 1>the top overall pick in this draft, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anybody would blink an eye if that happened. So

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<v Speaker 1>really freakish athlete and to Matt's point, kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>combination you could. You could have him put on ten

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<v Speaker 1>pounds and playment defensive end and not you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be a problem. You could have him stay at

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<v Speaker 1>two seventy two and and play outside linebacker in a

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<v Speaker 1>three or four defense and it wouldn't be a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just so much that you can do with a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like that. Some talk about him being first overall

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<v Speaker 1>on this very program, well not this specific one, but

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<v Speaker 1>our last mock draft mocks three point Oh, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>probably recalled that I mocked him number one to the

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville Jaguar. So I couldn't include him as my riser

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<v Speaker 1>because there's nowhere to go. He's he's at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the list. You can't go higher than the first overall.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do want to mention all the points you

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<v Speaker 1>guys made about his physicals and how he played and

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<v Speaker 1>where he played. There was a play in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Championship game and nobody on the broadcast noticed this because

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<v Speaker 1>it was just after Jamison Williams got hurt for Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>and the freshman kid came in number eighty four, and

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<v Speaker 1>he made a catch a crossing route and then he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped and made the Obie Dean miss and wound up

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<v Speaker 1>getting a twenty four yard gain out of it. Guess

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<v Speaker 1>who made the tackle. Traymond Walker, lining up at defensive tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>started to pass rush, didn't get there, saw the ball, release,

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<v Speaker 1>looked around, located it. Chase down a wide receiver from

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<v Speaker 1>well behind the play. Now the guy was running sideways

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit to start, but the kind of football

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<v Speaker 1>instincts and football i Q and the effort and the motor. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he checks every box. And Uh, if I was Jacksonville,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd take him number one this year. Uh, particularly if

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<v Speaker 1>I had the roster that is currently comprised in Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 1>That said, I couldn't make him my riser, So I

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<v Speaker 1>went with Arnold Ebakte of Penn State. Uh. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>rising for a while now. Uh, good move transferring to

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State. He went from second team All American Athletic

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<v Speaker 1>Conference to first team All Big Ten, going from Temple

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<v Speaker 1>to Penn State. And another one of these guys who's

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<v Speaker 1>really got a physical skill set. Uh he was. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>he's not an a Native American. He was born in Cameroon.

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<v Speaker 1>Family got here when he was twelve, picked up the

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<v Speaker 1>game in high school. He's still figuring all this stuff out,

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<v Speaker 1>but really an intriguing guy, uh, coming off the edge,

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<v Speaker 1>at least initially as a past rusher, and then as

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<v Speaker 1>he figured some more stuff out, maybe he could do

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot more. He was one of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>dale at the combine that they had to do the

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<v Speaker 1>conversion drills. Uh, some of the past rushers asked to

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<v Speaker 1>drop in coverage and uh, not a chess piece yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but a vers little guy for sure. Yeah, he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>has a skill set to do those kind of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And this draft, I mean, there's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys that that you look at and say, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>you could do some things with this guy, if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I remind people all the time that you know, t J.

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<v Speaker 1>Watt was the ninth edge rusher taken in his draft night.

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<v Speaker 1>There were nine. There were eight other guys edge rushers

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<v Speaker 1>taking at him. Some of them have worked out, some

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<v Speaker 1>of them have not, but he was the best one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean you you had a similar kind of

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<v Speaker 1>depth in this one in this draft as well with

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<v Speaker 1>some of his edge guys. Matt Dale and I are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who agree on the fall or you're the

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<v Speaker 1>outlier with my J Sanders of Cincincinnati. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>to his credit, he's helped the Bearcats get where they

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<v Speaker 1>are over the last couple of years. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good college player. But you know, we're not giving

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<v Speaker 1>credit for what they did in college. You gotta project

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<v Speaker 1>these guys to the pros. And at six five, he

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<v Speaker 1>looks like Mike Evans to me not an edge defender,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just really, really lean, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's really adept and playing in space or playing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back and back, you going in reverse. So I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's got enough you know, sand in his

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<v Speaker 1>pants to play on the line of scrimmage. And then

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<v Speaker 1>another thing I've noticed about him the more I've studied him,

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<v Speaker 1>is he has a terrible habit of jumping off sides.

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<v Speaker 1>And in itself, that's definitely bad behind him blowing him

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<v Speaker 1>into the line right right, right, But but it also

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<v Speaker 1>indicates to me that he gets a lot of his

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<v Speaker 1>production by guessing the snap count and winning with speed,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not gonna fly at the next level. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny you mentioned the off side thing. Interesting littlantic though. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Back when I was in college a hundred years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I took a class called Football Coaching one oh one,

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<v Speaker 1>and the way they did it was each week a

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<v Speaker 1>different position coach would give the lecture, and then there

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<v Speaker 1>would be a quiz the next week on last week's stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you'd learned the new stuff. And Steve Ferness,

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<v Speaker 1>the old defensive lineman from the Steel Curtain was head

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<v Speaker 1>coach George Peerless defensive line coach at Michigan State at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so he gave the lecture on defensive lineman

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<v Speaker 1>and and this stuck with me low these many years later.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, when you play defensive line, it's important if

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<v Speaker 1>it's starting for not to jump off side. That's good advice,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know you gotta take it. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>is the point that Matt, did you ever figure out

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<v Speaker 1>why uh Sanders lost so much weight between the combine

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<v Speaker 1>and the Pro Day? I heard some rumblings about an illness,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, even just watching his tape at Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very lean and doesn't have a real thick to

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<v Speaker 1>find heavy lower body, and you just get pushed around

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<v Speaker 1>and the least is too physical Dale. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>agree that the faller is David a job, although I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's gonna fall as much as you expect

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that tours Achilles on the Pro day to fought.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy is fascinating to me. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>he is underrated. I know Hutchinson is a great player,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he I think Hutchinson has been anointed

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain extent for whatever reason. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>job has got miles and miles of upside. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>getting started. I'm curious to see how far he does fall.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he will a little bit, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>ready to say he doesn't get out of the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in mark three point oh, Matt and I

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<v Speaker 1>had him going to Detroit at thirty two. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be interesting. I had him as number three

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<v Speaker 1>on my original triple take at at the edge rusher position.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna go there. Um, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he ends up being the six or seventh ad dresser taken.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the difference there is that, you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>a potential top ten pick to being somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenties probably. So that's a pretty big fall, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cost him a lot of money through no fault

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<v Speaker 1>of his own. He tories Achilles tendon at his his

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<v Speaker 1>pro day workout, So you know, it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>cautionary tale. I know some guys since then haven't worked

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<v Speaker 1>out at their pro days because of that what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to him, because they saw it's probably gonna end up

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<v Speaker 1>costing him a couple of million dollars and is unfortunate,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is part of the process here. There's always somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen this in the past, where guys have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>hurt and fallen out of the first round. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's too freaky, and I think we know more about

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<v Speaker 1>achilles injuries than we used to, and I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>much more treatable. It used to be a well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you tore your achilles, it was gonna be two years

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<v Speaker 1>before you were back. Now we're seeing guys come back

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<v Speaker 1>the same season. He should play at some point this season. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was a raw prospect to begin with. So

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<v Speaker 1>I do think there's some value to using that fift

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<v Speaker 1>year option with a guy like a job. I as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to taking him in the second round and then

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<v Speaker 1>you've only got him for four years and the first

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<v Speaker 1>year is kind of gonna be a wash to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain degree. So if you get that fifth year option

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<v Speaker 1>with him, I think it makes a big difference. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the upside for this kid is almost Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a one year player at Michigan, really, and so

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot there's a lot of untapped potential there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stay in a Big ten conference for my

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<v Speaker 1>sleeper bully ma Fe of Minnesota who's making a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of noise, and a guy who kind of started figuring

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<v Speaker 1>it out, uh in the latter stages of season that

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<v Speaker 1>he had a great senior ball and then he had

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<v Speaker 1>a really good combine. Matt, we're talking to a previous

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<v Speaker 1>episode and Dale mentioned this as well, about how some

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys are afterthoughts where in any other quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote normal year, they'd be stars. But they were just great.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't freaky. But Uh, this kid seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>a knack to me, He's figured out how not to

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<v Speaker 1>run ten yards behind the quarterback and take yourself too deep.

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<v Speaker 1>He's figured out how to attack with his hands when

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<v Speaker 1>he gets there. Uh six floor to sixty one. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's gonna sneak into the first round

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Probably not, but somebody's gonna be great, great value.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has a chance. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're again bringing up t. J. Watt was a ninth

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<v Speaker 1>edge rusher taking in two thousand seventeen. It wouldn't surprise

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<v Speaker 1>me if we see that many edge rushers go again

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<v Speaker 1>this year, eight or nine. So there's a shot that

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like a boy could could find his way

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<v Speaker 1>into the first round, UM, and he typically you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if if those guys are going in that later part

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<v Speaker 1>of that, they're they're going to a team that made

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs last year, and so it ends up being

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good situation for them. Yeah, situational, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>as much pressure. You don't have to get thrown right in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be all kinds of pressure on Aidan Hutchinson

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<v Speaker 1>Thibodeaux to come out and be stars right away, where

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like my fae or even a lot a

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<v Speaker 1>Jobo at this point they can take their time. They

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<v Speaker 1>let's stick with you and get your sleeper. Uh. Has

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<v Speaker 1>this pick made in honor of Ben Roethlisborger. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same school Dominique Robinson of Miami of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was again one of the guy that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know much about going to the the uh the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl and really had a good week of practices

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<v Speaker 1>down there. Uh six five to fifty three at the combine.

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<v Speaker 1>He weighed in a little heavier than that at his

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<v Speaker 1>pro day UM, but he had a four seven to

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<v Speaker 1>forty forty one inch vertical at six five to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three I mean I get out of here with that. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it is pro day. He had a four one nine

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<v Speaker 1>short shuttle, which was what was up vertical. Again, does

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<v Speaker 1>Kellipari know this? Uh? Somebody on the Miami of Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>basketball team should have known that. Uh. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver when he first got there. So his first

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<v Speaker 1>two years on campus he played wide receiver and cut

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven passes. So there's a little bit of Joey

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<v Speaker 1>Porter going on here. Joey Porter was a wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>at Colorado State when he got there and converted to

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<v Speaker 1>UH to to outside linebacker, defensive end, and then outside

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<v Speaker 1>linebacker for the Steelers. I see some of that with Dominque.

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson didn't have great production in college. Um, so there

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<v Speaker 1>there is a little bit of questions there. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's short shuttle four point one nine. That's ninety second

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<v Speaker 1>percentile for somebody that size. I mean, he can move

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<v Speaker 1>and jump, and he's an athlete very again, very raw

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<v Speaker 1>to position. But you could do some stuff with him

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<v Speaker 1>if you get him into the right program. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that pick a lot, man. I got a little

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of myself. I was looking at your selection. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Pascal of Kentucky and Dale. That's why I Calipery

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<v Speaker 1>Toll Perry has been known to some guys from other

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<v Speaker 1>schools too. I fall started, I didn't snap out, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>some intriguing guys matt on both sides of the trenches

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<v Speaker 1>of Kentucky in recent seasons. Yeah, and Pascal is a

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<v Speaker 1>real easy guy to root for too. He's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>you want on your upball team. He's the only three

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<v Speaker 1>time captain in Kentucky's history. Uh. He came back from

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<v Speaker 1>a malignant melanoma on his foot back in two thousand eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Has been really productive since he's almost like a shorter

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<v Speaker 1>version of Bud Dupre in terms of body type. He's

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<v Speaker 1>really really thick. He plays extremely hard, really difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>move off the edge. I mean, he's just really easy

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<v Speaker 1>to like. Yeah, that's a good stuff as well. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of those positions Dale. How many Uh Well,

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<v Speaker 1>t J. Watt was the ninth guy, the ninth I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how the tenth one will fare this year. Five

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<v Speaker 1>years now, it seems like there's a lot of them again.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's gonna be really interesting to see not

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<v Speaker 1>only where these guys go, but if they go to

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<v Speaker 1>a good situation if you know, if it's the right fit.

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<v Speaker 1>Presumably that's a team's draft for but sometimes they get

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<v Speaker 1>a little caught up in uh, I think chasing the

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<v Speaker 1>name or the for the recognition as opposed to, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy really does what we want to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of athletes out there, a lot of big

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<v Speaker 1>guys that can run and jump. Good luck quarterbacks moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna do it. For this edition of the Triple

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<v Speaker 1>Taking on her mind everyone that you can get these

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<v Speaker 1>to agree on subsequent Take two reviews of the positions.

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<v Speaker 1>You can catch that on the drive on s n R.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to everyone for joining us today, however, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you found us, thanks for making that happen. Until

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<v Speaker 1>next time for Matt Williamson and Dale Wally, I'm Mike.

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