1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: My friend didn't invite me to her bachelorette party, so 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm dropping out of her wedding. 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: Oh crap. 4 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Hi, I am twenty five female, and I'm currently being 5 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: pushed back and forth with my choice, and I thought 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the lovely people of Reddit would be able to rain 7 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: me in. 8 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: Maybe well this comes from flat If you're asking that 9 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: people have read it to rain you in, wrong choice. 10 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: This guys from flat at seven forty one from the 11 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: brou updates sub reddit. So I am currently thirteen weeks pregnant, 12 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: and my friends around me have all been very happy 13 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: and excited for me. However, my childhood friend, twenty five female, 14 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: let's call her Lisa, stonewalled meet since I announced at 15 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: eight weeks. I'd assumed it was wedding stress, but now 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: I am second guessing this, so it seems like Lisa 17 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: is also the bride in the wedding. Over the weekend, 18 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: I was scrolling Instagram and I came across the post 19 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: where she had thanked everyone who had come to her 20 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: bachelorlourette with photos of it with the girls and her 21 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: smiling in the middle, and I sort of just sat 22 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: there shocked. At first, I tried to be mature and 23 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: just let it go. But this was a girl I 24 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: grew up with. She was a bridesmaid in my wedding party, 25 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: and I'm an honorary bridesmaid for her. She's not having 26 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: a wedding party, so basically she had the bridesmaid's party 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: without her. 28 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: That's what's happened here why, And they were like mutual bridesmaids, 29 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: buddies kind of. 30 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Lisa was a bridesmaid at Ope's wedding, and Ope is 31 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: an honorary bridesmaid at hers. 32 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: Oh she's not. 33 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: She's not doing the traditional bridesmaid wedding party. So I 34 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: think she's like, hey, I'm going to do like the 35 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: bachelorette party and other stuff, but there won't be an 36 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: actual like like row of bridesmaids up on the stage 37 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: and stuff. 38 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Well, I guess if you were a real bridesmaid, you 39 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: might you might get invited to this thing. 40 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: But if this is true, I think all the bridesmaids 41 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: are honorary bridesmaids. 42 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: Pure. 43 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. There's a secret weddings, 44 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: but they actually are the real ones. 45 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 46 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: But I threw a whole wedding because I just want 47 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: to torture my friend. In the end, I guess hormones 48 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: took over and I ended up reaching out to her. 49 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: At first, it went, oh, looks like fun. That's definitely 50 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: the tone she had in mind. Yeah, and she replied 51 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: that it was. And after a tub of ice cream 52 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: and a good SOB, I reached out and went, Hey, 53 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: sorry to be this person, but why wasn't any invited? 54 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: She immediately messaged back, and this was the response. 55 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Dude, asking why I wasn't invited is a rough text ascent, right, 56 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: That's a rough never a fun text ascent. Nobody really was. 57 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: This sounds familiar. 58 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: The whole day was centered around drinking wineries and heading 59 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: to town after. 60 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: And I'm not sure you'd have. 61 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Enjoyed being around all of us wasted af especially because 62 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: you're pregnant right now. I get that an invice would 63 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: have been nice regardless, but in all honesty, I just 64 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: wanted to keep it very small. I'm really sorry you 65 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: felt that way, but I don't want to make this 66 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: a big thing because I've already had a crap. 67 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: Do we buy it? Maybe not? But like you gotta 68 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: just tell her like maybe not. Well, I also like 69 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of like the why wasn't 70 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: I invited? Text? Like almost ever, I'm like just not. 71 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like because they didn't want to 72 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: invite you, and like you should take that as as 73 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: you should. I don't know, I'm not a big fan 74 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: of it. But what if you are wrongly uninvited and 75 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: you're like which has happened in previous stories where it's 76 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: like someone was on it, like it's like, oh, dude, 77 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: like why was I invited? And then they were like, 78 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: oh my god, my fiance totally like nixed you from 79 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: the registry. I had no idea. That's crazy, and then 80 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: the fiance and then breakups. 81 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I it's it's it is never a fun interaction, 82 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: that's for sure. 83 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know, are you would you? Have you 84 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: ever asked why? Yeah? 85 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: I've always just exactly what you said. It's like I'm 86 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: not invited or whatever the case might be. Let me 87 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: just read the room, let me just pick up the 88 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: hit and just leave it at that and not, you. 89 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: Know, because like like it's just because like you know, 90 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: the the answer most likely is I just didn't want 91 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: to hang out with you. Yeah, and like that's nothing 92 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's everything against you. Yeah, imagine someone just 93 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: said that, it's just it's just your personality and who 94 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: you are, Like, I don't like you. I don't know. 95 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: I just I think it's one of those things that maybe, like, 96 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: obviously in theory, it's generally good to like, hey, let's communicate, 97 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: let's what happened. I want to know, did I do 98 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: something wrong, whatever, But maybe in just the reality of 99 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: living everyday life, it's one of those things where it's like, 100 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: is it. 101 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, to be fair, it does seem like they like 102 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: they were like bestish friends. Is that true? They were 103 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: like they were, I mean, she was a bridesmaid in 104 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: her wedding. 105 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: They definitely have, if not best friends, it's like very 106 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: close childhood friend, childhood's childhood. 107 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: Maybe young says Op he's looking for closure. Sam, I 108 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: think it's a fair question. Helenia Baines says, I think 109 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: it's totally fine to ask for clarification on the state 110 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: of your relationship. Yeah, I guess, I guess. I yeah, 111 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: I think it shall bounces. I think it's really crappy 112 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: le bro out, But honestly, at that point, we have 113 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 2: no reason to think anything other than what the bride 114 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: said she doesn't have to invite her to her bachelor 115 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: that party to Kimberly Fine says have been knocked up 116 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: for an Ozark weekend bachelor trip. Knocked up, can admit 117 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: it was less than deal. But all you need is 118 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: a six foot inflatable dog and actual friends. Have a 119 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: good time anyway, or maybe knocked off for an Ozark 120 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, auto correct one crazy there. Yeah, I 121 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 2: would actually love to you. I would love to know 122 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: from you guys. Maybe put a pull up? Yeah, would 123 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: you send the text? Why did you not invite me? 124 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: Or have you said a text? Have you ever sent 125 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: a text? Why did you invite me? Yeah? Let us know. 126 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: I would love to know what we want to know. Yeah, 127 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: but there's more of the story, ladies and gentlemen. 128 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: So now I try to respond with hey, thanks for 129 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: getting back to me. But I'm still upset because this 130 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: day is about you, and I wanted to be there 131 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: and celebrate you. And then she called me and just 132 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: asked me to not make this a big thing once again, 133 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: and she sounded incredibly annoyed and like the doormat, I am, 134 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: I dropped it. 135 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Oh he's feeling bad. Yeah. 136 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: After thinking this over for a few days, I'm feeling 137 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: very hurt and heartbroken. This was a girl I grew 138 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: up with and loved and supported through a lot of stuff. 139 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: I've helped her plan and prepare a lot for her wedding, 140 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: So to suddenly get iced out like this, I'm feeling 141 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: a certain way. My husband suggests we don't go, and 142 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm on the edge. So Reddit, would I be the 143 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: ahole if I declined going to her wedding and distance myself. 144 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: We have relevant comments in an update just one day 145 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: later where we get the final judgment. 146 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: But would OP be the a hole if she said no, 147 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: I'm not going to the wedding and just a hole? 148 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: So it's kind of tricky. I feel like, yeah, I'm 149 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: kind of caught. Uh what would I do? I wouldn't 150 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: send the text probably, and I would be like, damn, 151 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: like that really like that. That's a little hurtful. We're 152 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: not as close as what I would. This is what 153 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: I would. My internal conversation is like, Damn, we're not 154 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: as close as I thought we were, and that sucks. 155 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 2: I will now like until proven otherwise, I will maybe 156 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: treat this relationship as as maybe a little bit more distant, 157 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: and I would probably still go to the wedding, because 158 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: you know, even like not close friends go to bigger weddings. Yeah, 159 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: you know, I probably would. I probably if it was 160 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: like a really good friend, I probably would bring it up. 161 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: I probably would bring it up, but not in a 162 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: like why did you invite me? But more in like 163 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: I feel like our relationship has changed a little bit, like, 164 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: you know, I just want to know where you're at, 165 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Like I really value our friends chip, but you know, 166 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: are are you still? Are you still even interested in 167 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: being friends? I don't even know I would say that, 168 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: but uh, yeah, I know Helena Band says people need 169 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: more communication, not less. Yeah, I think I think you're 170 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: you're winning me over with that. I don't know what 171 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: would you do? I think I agree. I was really 172 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: feeling into that. I was. I was eyes closed, like. 173 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: Jesse did yeah, sound something for my like I can't 174 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: open my eyes a bit. 175 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: Oh dude, that was a good like minute you were 176 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: you were into it. I love it. That's how good 177 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: he is. Guys, you can do with the size closed 178 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: right right? But yeah, no, one all seriousness. 179 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: I think me personally, I probably would still go to 180 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: the wedding. I think the larger question, if it was 181 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: me personally, is would I kind of continue to like 182 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: really engage after that, or at least engage in the 183 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: same way as I did before four Roy Probably not, 184 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: and in going to the wedding, maybe not because she's 185 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: so preoccupied it's. 186 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: Our big day or whatever. But I was like, maybe if, oh, god, dude, 187 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: if Christian this to you, would you ask him why? 188 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, probably yeah. If it's like if it's 189 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: like because this is like childhood friends. 190 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: But but Opie didn't say, like, I feel like, usually 191 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: people like, listen, this is like my closest friend, Like 192 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: they usually expell it out if it's like. 193 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, this doesn't seem like best friend, it seems like 194 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: a long friend. 195 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Reale, But yeah, I think I would still 196 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: go to the wedding, but all likelihood probably not engage 197 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: that much more in the friendship. 198 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much, probably a fizzle out, I would imagine. Yeah. 199 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: And also my eyes were closed because I was trying 200 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: to be there. Guys, he was thinking I was imagining. 201 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: I was imagining I was there. Ah. 202 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: I love the eyes closed, but we have some relevent 203 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: comments so complex Storm nineteen twenty nine says not the 204 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: a hole per saying don't make this a big thing 205 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: would piss me off. 206 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: If you guys are. 207 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: Close, then she one hundred percent should have at least 208 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: invited you the whole. It's my wedding, and I can 209 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: uninvite and do what I want. Is true, However, that 210 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have no consequences for your decisions super quick. 211 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: If what she said was true about like, oh, we're 212 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: going drinking, da da da, she should have reached out 213 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: beforehand and been like, Hey, we're gonna be drinking, We're 214 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: gonna be wasted all this stuff. 215 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: You know. 216 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if that would like be fun for you. 217 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: Wanted to like run that by you, What do you 218 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: think or something? If that was I feel like, if 219 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: that was really it, I feel. 220 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: Like that's what she should have done. But I'm aggressed. 221 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: To me, she doesn't consider you as good of a 222 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: friend as you may think. 223 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's probably what That's what it is. That's 224 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: what it is. She's just not that into you, bro. 225 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: That's that's the thing where it's like the answer is 226 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: like it's like never gonna be satisfying. It's just like 227 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: you're not as close as you thought. Reality. Man, it's tough. 228 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: It sucks, It sucks, but it's like, yeah. 229 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: Beneficial Year one says, I'm an honorary bridesmaid for her. 230 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: She's not having a wedding party. What the heck is 231 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 2: this a fair question? What does this mean? 232 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: Isn't a new fat I haven't heard of, or a 233 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: way of getting more partying and gifts from your friends 234 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: without having the be in the wedding. 235 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 2: True? 236 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: In any case, you would not be the ahole for 237 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: ghosting her wedding. 238 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: She deliberately something that she. 239 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: Knew would hurt your feelings and told you not to 240 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: make a big thing out of it. Temporary tie two 241 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: thy three, he says. I'd say there's a good chance 242 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: she is lying about not having a bridal party and 243 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: that it will be a cruel surprise. 244 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: For Op if she attends. That would be that would 245 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: be from the beginning her. That's what I'm thinking, I 246 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: was thinking for the beginning, not even secret. 247 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: It's just like boom, there's yeah, helliposts right there, not 248 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: the a holop. 249 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: This friendship might have run this course. Also, sorry, real quick, 250 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: why even tell her she's an honorary bridesmaid. In that case, 251 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: why not just say anything because probably it doesn't she 252 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: wants to, Like, I think what's happening is this person 253 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: doesn't feel close to OP anymore but is trying to 254 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: keep the peace in a terrible way. 255 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: It's like a side piece and they're like, well, I 256 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: can't have a relationship. He's like, oh, let's go to 257 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: the movies. He's like, oh, we had a fun time. 258 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: It's like, give him just. 259 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Enough, give him, yeah enough, so they don't run away. 260 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, come on, not the a Holope, this 261 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: friendship might have run its course. That might make you 262 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: sad because change is hard, but dropping her so you 263 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: can folks on real relationships. 264 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: Will be a win in the long run. Agreed. The 265 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: overall judgment on the post not yeah, Op, He's not 266 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: the a hole. He's not the a hole at all. 267 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: The friend is definitely the hole. Yeah, yeah, dude. It's rough. Often, 268 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: like I feel like, I think something that's tough is 269 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: like friendships ending are often more ambiguous than relationships ending 270 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: so true and so like you're so true, I think 271 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: you're often left with less closure. Yeah, Because it's like 272 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: it's often like I just want to I don't want 273 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: to spend time with you. Yeah, that's that sucks. That sucks. 274 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: But that's just like often what. 275 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: It is, a romantic relationship kind of demands that kind 276 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: of closureah, Whereas like a friendship often in most cases too, 277 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: because you're kind of in this like maybe like middle 278 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: spectrum of friendship where it's not like you. 279 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: Know exactly the best best best friend forever. 280 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that is that is a weird thing 281 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: about friendship. Goot observation, Goot observation. Well, guys, we have 282 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: the final update. Let's hit it twenty four hours later. Oh, 283 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: scene as set hi, hope this is allowed. But you 284 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: were all so wonderful and helpful. And turns out I 285 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: got an update sooner than I expected. So I haven't 286 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: heard from Lisa that I expected. What I did not 287 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: expect is a friend of Lisa's to get. 288 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: In touch with me. Let's call her Sarah. 289 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: I knew of Sarah and spoke to her a few 290 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: times at events that we attended together, and she was 291 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: one of the girls with myself when we went to 292 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: dress shopping for Lisa. She was also a friend that 293 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: I noticed wasn't at the bachelorette party was is a 294 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: surprise anyways, and at first she was doing a hey, 295 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: how are you and we did polite small talk blah 296 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: blah blah, until she finally went, so are you as 297 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: pissed off in Matt at Lisa as I am, ob oh, crap. 298 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: The tide is turning turning. 299 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Immediately, I was slightly shocked, as the few times I 300 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,119 Speaker 1: had met Sarah, she was very I guess demure, very mindful. 301 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: That opened the floodgates of information and she told me 302 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: everything she knows. So what I didn't put in the 303 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: post is I actually waited two days before messaging Lisa 304 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: about the lack of invite. Turns out three of Lisa's friends, 305 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: who also weren't invited, hit her up immediately after she 306 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: posted on Instagram asking why they weren't invited? 307 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 2: Okay, she just got like an avalanche of why was 308 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: I invited? Why was I invited? She needed to now 309 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: to cheat? I was literally thinking the exact I was 310 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: about to say the exact same thing. She knew these 311 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: three friends might be the ones that would tattle if 312 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: she was cheating on their like bridesmaid thing with like 313 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: a bunch of strippers or whatever, and she wanted a 314 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: like all all near or dwells. Yeah, dude, just a 315 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: crazy bachelotte party. So these are like the most moral 316 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: of her friends. 317 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: Wow yeah yeah everyone in this group, like they should 318 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: all now become for all the uninvited should become. 319 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah new friend, Like we got strong morals, guys. 320 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: So turns out these girls absolutely chewed Lisa alive. My 321 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: confrontation was soft, and finally it was revealed what actually happened. 322 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: And now I'm even more confused. 323 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: So Lisa admitted to Sarah that her sister in law 324 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: played the bachelorette and just decided that she was only 325 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: going to invite the friends that she knew. So Lisa's 326 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: usual group of eight to ten friends including me, got 327 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: narrowed down into four people, and Lisa decided not to 328 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: correct her sister in law and just went with it, 329 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: not realizing how many people she would be upsetting by 330 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: not inviting them. 331 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: Bless you, I am allergic to Lisa's BS. 332 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: Apparently, once people started attacking her, basically, Lisa buried her 333 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: head in the sand and started making up lies to 334 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: everyone on why they weren't invited, using the same excuse 335 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: of don't make a big deal until everyone realized that 336 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: the reasons were bs and called her out for it, 337 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: and then the real truth came out. 338 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: Still feel your conspiracy theory, boys. 339 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: Business, I'm so excited down well, Sarah's informed me the 340 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: girls who weren't invited have all pulled out of the wedding, 341 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: their partners included, because they got the same annoyed response 342 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: from Lisa before she told the truth. 343 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: And they all thought they didn't deserve that. 344 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: Then she finally asked me what Lisa told me, and 345 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: I went deathly quiet on the phone before finally admitting 346 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: that she used my pregnancy as an excuse, which then 347 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: start and poor Sarah on another rant of anger on 348 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: how Lisa could say that to me when I'm pregnant. Anyways, 349 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: we ended the call and she hoped we could get 350 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: a coffee sometimes. So I think I've made a new friend. 351 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: So that's the update. This pregnant lady is very confused 352 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: and I'm currently the number one buyer of ice cream 353 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: at my local dairy. 354 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: Loll, she was just pregnant. I was a little confused 355 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: at that last bet same and so it sounds like 356 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: she used her being pregnant as a reason to not invite. 357 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: Maybe the real thing was Lisa let the sister in Launch. 358 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, guys, sometimes sometimes I just don't know 359 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: show them what Bro is trying to lawn mow his 360 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: toe hairs or something along those lines. 361 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: I am just I'm just lost. 362 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: I just like looked down at my phone and just 363 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: like an inch to the left and my h my 364 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: peripheral view, say, is just trying to lawn mow his 365 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: toe hairs with this box cutter, And I'm lost. 366 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't one touched that box cutter. And don't tell 367 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: Sophia it's you know, should definitely tell hairs are very clean. 368 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: Stop. 369 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: I can see this. What's wrong with that? Hairs are 370 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: not clean? What do you mean? 371 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: They sweat, feet sweat and you put them in your 372 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: socks that also sweat that gets sweat. 373 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: To put them in my socks today? You just raw 374 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: dog all day out in the wind. Yeah, I've been 375 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: here all day. Where do you think get bed? And 376 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know where Sam. I don't 377 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: keep up with them. This box cutter is too much. 378 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: I can't It's not even gonna work, I know. I 379 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: just I'm just playing. 380 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: You're also you're just gonna cut your toe wide open, 381 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: and this whole stream is is just gonna go wingles. 382 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: No, no, it's not free for you today. 383 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: Try try to toe hair shaving, yes, or not. 384 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: Pull it. Let the people speak anyway, So we're gonna 385 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: get back story toe hair aside. This is the kind 386 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: of stuff the members only say good money for okay, 387 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: come on. So oh yeah. 388 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: So to finish the point I was making, I think 389 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: the quote unquote real reason was Ciston and Law came 390 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: in just like took over. Lisa is just like whatever, 391 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: just let it happen. And the cistern Law is the 392 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: one that cut out all the friends. And now Lisa's 393 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: just rolling with it. She didn't try to defended, like no, 394 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: these are my friends, like da da da maybe and 395 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: just let her maybe. Maybe that's a story we're getting now. Yeah, 396 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: it's it's confusing, but I digress. We have some more 397 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: comments though. The last yellow skittle says, don't go. Whatever's 398 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes will ensure that this isn't 399 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: a celebratory event with friends and laughter. Finish whatever task 400 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: you're working on. Slash promise for the wedding and bow out. 401 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: It's already extremely toxic, and my guess would be that 402 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: you haven't even seen all the drama yet. Focus on 403 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: your new bundle to be and use the day of 404 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: the wedding as some time for you and your husband 405 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: to baby moon or pre baby moon love. 406 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: A baby uncle. 407 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: Rumpy twelve says, And when she drops out of the wedding, 408 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: op should use her pregnancy as the reason. 409 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: That's that's good, that's clever. 410 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: Tired to use her name's eleven says, So, my biggest 411 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: issue with all of this is Lisa is lying to 412 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: you and her other friends. I suspect if she had 413 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: been honest with you, it wouldn't have been as big 414 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: of a thing. Hey, my future in law planned this 415 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: thing and excluded people she didn't know. I felt uncomfortable 416 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: pushing back. I regret it because I know it hurt 417 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: your feelings of people I care about. 418 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: How hard is that to say? 419 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: Logical difference five two nine says I can't figure out 420 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: why the heck she. 421 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 2: Posted it online? Oh yeah, posted the pictures of everyone online. 422 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: She's basically like outing herself. Yeah, Like, at least. 423 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna if you're gonna be like a cutter offer 424 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: be like a smart cutter, offer a good a hole 425 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. 426 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: Cut those boxes. Oh my OPI. 427 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: Responds to that, saying, I think that's the part where 428 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm struggling with as well. It's the fact that she 429 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: posted it online. It's the fact that the caption was 430 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: couldn't have asked for a better day, blessed with the 431 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: best of friends. And maybe I'll admit that's an odd 432 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: thing to get upset about, but it just felt a 433 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: bit like someone cut me open and then rubbed with 434 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: the box cutter and rubbed salt and lemon into my 435 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: box cutter wound. Now it's one thing not being invited, 436 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: it's another seeing a caption like that and having the 437 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: internal thought of I'll just go f myself. 438 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: Then well, there you go. 439 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Significant planter says, Okay, So I was actually feeling bad 440 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: for her, thinking that maybe she has a sister in 441 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: law that is domineering in one of those people that 442 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: everyone just goes along with because they will throw a 443 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: literal fit if they don't. And then I read the caption. Nah, 444 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: she did that crap on purpose, just cut her out 445 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: of her life. You just read how she feels about 446 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: you by the way. I feel that you should always 447 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: join our live streams every weekday at three PMPs. Just 448 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: tap the profile and. 449 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: If you don't, I will literally cut my toenail hairs off. 450 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: That's right, all of them gone, all of them gone 451 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: on stream, and you'll be forced to watch one at 452 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: a time. 453 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: Yes, but Sam, Yeah, but John, do we think that op, 454 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: you should just skip the wedding? Basically move on? Phase out? 455 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here? 456 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 2: Do we move on? That's the question here? I mean 457 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: I think you always have to move on, John, You 458 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: always have to move on. It doesn't seem like your 459 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: friend is treating you as a friend should, so for 460 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: that reason, maybe it's not good to keep investing in 461 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: that friendship. 462 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's almost like, and this is maybe a general 463 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: rule that applies to all of these bad friend situations, 464 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: but you kind of just like phase out unless the 465 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: friend kind of goes like the extra miles, like, hey, 466 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: how are you doing? 467 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: You want to get some coffee? You want to hang out? 468 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, you see if they really have the 469 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: care to be there, ye care to be there? Ye? 470 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: But you know who we care about? Who all of you? 471 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: If you love us, make sure to subscribe, we love 472 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 2: you and say it tomorrow. Mom invoices me for the 473 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: cost of raising me as a child. Fine, I have 474 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: a plan. 475 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we've we've heard some Karens and parents 476 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: doing some crazy things. 477 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: This one we haven't heard before. And that's very probably 478 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: pretty expensive, because like the age cost of raising a 479 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: kid is like five hundred thousand dollars in a lifetime. Insane. 480 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: It's just hilarily more. 481 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: I'm just imagining his mom opening up quick books and 482 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: be like, all right, invoice number forty. 483 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: Seven swimming lessons, two million dollars for raising my child. 484 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's see, our household always revolved around money. 485 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: Even though my mom made more than enough money and 486 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 2: we were not struggling by any means, she complained about 487 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: every single thing she had to buy for us, everything food, clothes, 488 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: medical expenses, toys, laptops and phones, school guys. Every day. 489 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: We always knew exactly how much we were costing her. 490 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 2: We didn't dare ask for the unnecessary things like leisure 491 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: activities or expensive toys or hobby supplies. We started working 492 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 2: very young, and she manipulated and guilted us into giving 493 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: all of our money that we earned to pay off 494 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: what we owed. Dude, what would you do if your 495 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: mom did us deal? 496 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Like maybe like food and like clothes, like basic basic 497 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: like basic food, basic clothes, basic shelter. 498 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: It's like I didn't choose to be bored. I didn't 499 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: do that. Maybe you should have wrapped it if you 500 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 2: didn't want all these expenses. When I turned eighteen, she 501 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: completely cut me off financially, but kindly offered to let 502 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: me rent my bedroom but kindly offered to let me 503 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 2: rent my bedroom out for her wow, and sent me 504 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: an invoice of every cent I've ever cost her, totaling 505 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 2: over seven hundred thousand dollars. She built me for Christmas 506 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: and Birthday present. She even builled me for her medical 507 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: expenses for the pregnancy and delivery, and wanted me to 508 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: back pay rent to live in the house from birth. 509 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: She did the same to my sister two years later 510 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: when she turned eighteen. We were supposed to pay her 511 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: back over time, starting the day we each turned eighteen. 512 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: Oh's crazy, Actually, that's maybe. 513 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the concept already is just off the charts, 514 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: but the fact that she kept track is even crazier. 515 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: And she charged for the pregnancy and the back dated rent. 516 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: It's my birthday presence. Oh my God, doesn't have to 517 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: give birthday presents? Does she do that with all her 518 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: friends too? It's like, hey, I gave you this birthday present. 519 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: You can have it for five years, and then I 520 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: expect some thing of equal or more value. Here's my invoice. 521 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: What if? 522 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: She was sort of like, I hope you enjoy that place, 523 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: that little kiddo, because it's gonna cost you. 524 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like both of us were still dealing with 525 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: a lot of internalized guilt from her constant manipulation, So 526 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: we actually did pay for a while. No, aside from 527 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 2: necessary expenses, our entire paychecks were going to her. We 528 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: rented our bedrooms in her house, and she separated her 529 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: food cleaning supplies, cookware, and tableware, et cetera from ours 530 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 2: and charged us to use them. She generously included the 531 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: use of the household if appliances in our rent. And 532 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: it wasn't until I was twenty one and my sister 533 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: was nineteen that enough people told us that this whole 534 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: arrangement was unhinged that we finally snapped out of it. 535 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: We moved out together and stopped paying our mom or 536 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: even contacting her at all. Holy moly, guys, I want 537 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: to know from you, who's the a hole, who's the angel? 538 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: I've never heard it as in my life, but John, 539 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: what would you do in this situation? 540 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: Also, if anyone has been through an experience, Oh yeah, 541 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: I know there's some crazy moms out there. I mean, 542 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: just where to beget your own mother inflicing you for 543 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: your own birth. 544 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's just the birth is the craziest. 545 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: It's just beyond sanity rerehension. 546 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: And also the fact like Op was doing it for 547 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: like three or four years, from like eighteen to twenty one. 548 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: I mean that is like just shows like the level 549 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: of manipulation that you can have from birth and you 550 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: don't even realize how hairyp your childhood is until like 551 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: a bunch of people are like, dude, what the fuck? 552 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: It's scary. So, in conclusion, mom is the a whole horrorseshore. 553 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: I intentionally sabotaged my group project so these freeloaders would fail. Okayop, 554 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 2: this is Okayop. I'm Samuel Donner and I'm John from 555 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: and we tell the funniest stories on the Internet. And John, 556 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: I got a super cool thing from Amazon recently. Oh, 557 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: what did you get? I want to see it? Yeah, okay, 558 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: I will. I will preface it by saying that, uh, 559 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: it makes me feel very dignified. 560 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: Dignified, okay. And the thing with Sam is if he 561 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: tells you bought he bought something you you truly don't 562 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: know what what it's going to be. Wow does and 563 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: it works like it's. 564 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: A really wow And I feel just like so official, 565 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: Like I feel like I don't know. 566 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: Your entire elegance literally leveled, like like before like you 567 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: were wearing the jacket, but now that the jacket feels 568 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: like a piece of elegance somehow. 569 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: And it's like it's like I can think of that. Yeah. Yeah, 570 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: Like I feel like I feel like I can make 571 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: better decisions. Oh definitely. Yeah. Well, at some point I 572 00:25:51,160 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: will let you try this out. Beautiful beautiful, beautiful pipe. Yeah. 573 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: But although, but although this pipe is quite dignified. Oh, 574 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 2: sometimes when you're surrounded by others who don't share those 575 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 2: same qualities of refinements class, you have to do some 576 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: unclassy things and maybe some sabotage. Uh oh, I intentionally 577 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: sabotaged my group project. So these freeloaders would fail. Ooh. 578 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: I was inspired by another post which triggered the heck 579 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: out of me and resulted in this post. So there 580 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: was this college project where it was assigned to a 581 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: group of five. We didn't know each other. And I'm 582 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: convinced teachers do this not so we learn how to 583 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: work in groups, but rather so they have to only 584 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: mark six papers instead of thirty, just making it easier 585 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: for the nature. Yep. So let me tell you a 586 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: little bit about this group. One of the other four 587 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: showed up to one of our team meetings once. The 588 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: others never showed up at all. 589 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: Geez, guys, like, calm down, stop, you know you don't 590 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: have to go, guys. 591 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: The one who did show up brought no work, no laptop, 592 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: no pen or paper. Was just there sitting looking into 593 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: my eyes with a look that only a half brain 594 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: dud mouse could Everyone had a specific section to work on, 595 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: and we were to present in class as a group 596 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: throughout the term. This is a whole term project, by 597 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: the way, whole last term. Throughout the whole last term, 598 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: we had a Google doc where we could upload our work. 599 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: One signed on once and did nothing else. One asked 600 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: one question, saying what. 601 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: The happens is even about? One said this is stropper 602 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: and I'm not doing it. The other one and pasted 603 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: from Wikipedia. And that was the contribution of the other 604 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 3: four group members. Everything was divided evenly, and every week 605 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: we were to check in with our professor in regards 606 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: to questions or problems. 607 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: I did it hold back. I simply asked, what would 608 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: happen if I only do my part? Because the other 609 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 2: four were flaking out and not even coming to class. 610 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: Her response, We'd all fail, so dumb, so fine. I 611 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: did everything. Day of the presentation, they all showed up 612 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: for the first time ever. This project was worth forty 613 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: percent of our great Wow. The class had a copy 614 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: of the presentation and the professor had a line by 615 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: line version of what we were going to present, as 616 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: well as a written report. I gave the introduction and 617 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: let the other four present their parts. They never once 618 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: asked to see any of it or read any of 619 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: it befo forehand. They were just going to present on whatever. Okay. 620 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: The power point was just a photo, no text, and 621 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: none of them had anything to say. One tried to 622 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: sum up my introduction and he looked worse for trying. 623 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: The others simply refused to go to the podium. What 624 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: I did not do was put text on the PowerPoint 625 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: for any parts, which means I had to memorize my intro, 626 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: my section, and the conclusion. In my support for the conclusion, 627 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: I summarized what they were supposed to say, so it 628 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: made sense. The written report only had my name on it, 629 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: and I included an indendum for the other four people's contribution. 630 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: In total, it was a print out of our work 631 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: on the Google doc which had all their names and contributions, 632 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: including plagiarized Wikipedia section. 633 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: And I'm also imagining just like the comment of like, 634 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: what the F is this? This is stupid? Just yeah, 635 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: just sold for everyone to see in the addendum. This 636 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: was that only contribution. My group was pissed. 637 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: They were pissed at me for not including the text, 638 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: or specifically for screwing up their parts. They didn't even 639 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: know the topic of the presentation, let alone what they 640 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: were supposed to say. Oh my god, my professor said 641 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: we'd all get the same grade, and because four out 642 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: of the five sections were incomplete, it would be a 643 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: failing grade. Who are these teachers? Like? Do they want 644 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: you to learn like like. 645 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: Clear clearly this person put forth effort and clearly they didn't. 646 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: So how are you going to reward nothing and punish 647 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: like greatness. 648 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: Greatness Opie's greatness. I don't know, man, But I was 649 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: going in so but Ope was going into that presentation 650 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: with a ninety eight percent. So even if op got 651 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: a zero, they'd still pass the course. But there was 652 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: no way I was accepting that. There's an ap peel 653 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: process that goes to the chair of the program and 654 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: then the dean of the school. On the day of 655 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: the appeal meeting with the chair of the program, I 656 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: was informed that they decided I would be graded for 657 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 2: my part and the other four would get a zero. 658 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: Oh I got an eighty five, which honestly was a 659 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: low grade for that work, but the other four failed 660 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: the program. If I had put this is an interesting point. Yeah, 661 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: if I had put the text in the power point 662 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: and just let them read it, we probably would have 663 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: passed and would have upped my average from a ninety 664 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: three percent to a ninety five percent or something like that. 665 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: But I regret nothing. It was so worth it to 666 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: get that sweet sweet justice of all those freeloaders getting 667 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: a big fat zero. 668 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: Seriously, two percent is well well worth like it? It 669 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: just makes your skin crawl. Those people that just take 670 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: advantage of all the work that you're doing. 671 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe it. I can't believe it, honestly, Like, 672 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: I have no sympathy for those freeloaders. And if you 673 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: don't want to be a freeloader and you want to 674 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: support the great content on this channel, you know you 675 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: can dope. 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