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Speaker 1: Hi there, it's Steve Fishman. Hope you enjoyed the show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a bonus episode of Avenger. Today, we're doing

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Speaker 1: something different. We're going behind the scenes of an episode,

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Speaker 1: our finale. This is the episode where the pilots of

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Speaker 1: the Death Flights are finally brought to justice, in large

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Speaker 1: part through the efforts of Miriam. What we're going to

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Speaker 1: show you today are the mechanics of how this comes together.

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Speaker 1: This particular podcast is different from others that we've done because,

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Speaker 1: as you know, we recorded all the interviews in Spanish,

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Speaker 1: we translated the words into English, and then we brought

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Speaker 1: in actors to voice those words. We were amazingly lucky

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Speaker 1: to land Alexis Bledel to voice the part of Miriam. Alexis,

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Speaker 1: you may remember, starred in Gilmore Girls and then she

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Speaker 1: went on to win an Emmy for her starring role

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Speaker 1: in Handmaid's Tale. She's also got a really special connection

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Speaker 1: to this story because her father is from Argentina. In fact,

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Speaker 1: her first language was Spanish. We were also extraordinarily lucky

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Speaker 1: to have Fisher Stevens director. Fisher's a co founder of

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Speaker 1: our company, Orbit Media. More importantly, he's an Oscar winner

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Speaker 1: for documentaries and the director of films, including stars like

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Speaker 1: al Pacino and Justin Timberlake. What we're offering today is

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Speaker 1: a peek behind the curtain Fisher directing Alexis. This is

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Speaker 1: more or less a master class in directing and acting.

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Speaker 1: Hope you enjoy it. One quick note. The other voice

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Speaker 1: that you'll hear is that of Andre's Caballero. He's our

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Speaker 1: senior producer. At the beginning of this episode, he and

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Speaker 1: Alexis are making small talk about kids, and what you

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Speaker 1: need to know here is that Andres's partner is pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Take it away.

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Speaker 2: I have two voys.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how old are they?

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Speaker 2: Seven? And three?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 3: Wow's bay sounds a fun age?

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Speaker 4: Three?

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Speaker 2: Well both Actually, yeah, it's good. It's really yeah, it's fun.

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Speaker 3: You can be honest with me. It's okay, it is.

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Speaker 2: It is there amazing, No, it's so fun to see

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Speaker 2: them grow the day. The days are long, but the

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Speaker 2: years are fast. The days can be long, but but

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Speaker 2: it's good. It's all good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, here we are.

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Speaker 1: This is Fisher and by the way, Fisher's in New York,

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Speaker 1: Alexis is in the studio in Texas, Andress in California.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, zoo. I think that's been a good way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, that sounds good. We're recording today, right the

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Speaker 4: Yes for people, Okay, for the role, I guess, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was. But if you get uncomfortable, just will turn

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Speaker 4: it off. I mean, whatever you want, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: to me. Okay, So why don't we go? And I

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Speaker 4: apologize for the last time. My daughter's assembly got postpone

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Speaker 4: because it rained, so I had to go watch her

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Speaker 4: puppet parade, which meant a lot to her. So I

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Speaker 4: appreciate you switching schedule. No, of course, no worries andres

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Speaker 4: get ready for those And Alexis I been through there already.

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Speaker 2: It's like my favorite, like anytime they have like a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's go cold open and uh and let's read

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Speaker 4: the whole cold.

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Speaker 3: Open by now. And Judge has attached the investigation.

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Speaker 1: And is our senior producer, and he's also the narrator

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Speaker 1: of the podcast. At certain points he is reading the

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Speaker 1: narration to que Alexis.

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Speaker 3: A surprise announcement and then there's the archival music archival Okay.

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Speaker 5: He said they had identified the pilots of the Death

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Speaker 4: Just let's just do that one one more time, just

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Speaker 5: He said. They had identified the pilots of the Death

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Speaker 5: Okay, present the information.

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Speaker 1: Now Alexis will end up repeating this same sentence seven times.

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Speaker 5: He said, they had identified the pilots of the Death

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Speaker 4: Much better, great who flew the Santa Cruz Church group

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Speaker 4: and just laid the spell that one out, But the

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Speaker 5: He said they had identified the pilots of the Death

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Speaker 5: I messed up the date. He said they had identified

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Speaker 4: I think that's great. Andres I thought that was great, okay,

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Speaker 4: So that is the right vibe. That's the right energy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, was he trying to give the pilots a chance

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Speaker 4: Good, one more, just to have it.

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Speaker 5: It's great, But then we realized something that it may

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Speaker 4: And then this pilot went to the judge's office and

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Speaker 4: Awesome, you want to just do one more different way?

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Speaker 4: But that was fucking great.

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Speaker 1: All right, I love This must be a director's technique

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Speaker 1: and then he adds just one more time, a different way.

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Speaker 5: Mass Mario Danielle Arue. He was sixty two. He had

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Speaker 4: Great, let's keep going. You're on a road.

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Speaker 4: Great, just do that one again, right in it?

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Speaker 4: Then she years the breaking news that they have been arrested.

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Speaker 5: Finally, the judge ordered the arrest of the three pilots

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Speaker 4: No, but it isn't. It killed the two French nuns

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Speaker 4: Much better, I think. The only thing I say is,

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Speaker 5: After the Amnesty laws went into effect, there were trials

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Speaker 4: One alt that was great, that's a good one. Just

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Speaker 5: Now, Okay. After the amnesty laws went into effect, there

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Speaker 5: I sat just feet away from Astis. At one point

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Speaker 4: That was great, let's just do that again. That was

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Speaker 5: I sat just feet away from Astis. At one point

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Speaker 4: You got good? Let's just do what?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I sat just away from Astis. At one point

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Speaker 3: And just a disclaimer trash track day, so you might

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Speaker 5: Giancarlo is also there taking pictures, but we barely saw.

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Speaker 5: Can I can we scroll down there? But we barely

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Speaker 4: Okay, one more time. Yeah, if you could just set

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Speaker 5: The families and activists were anxiously waiting. So were the

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Speaker 4: You try one word? Gian Carlo was also there taking pictures.

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Speaker 5: The families and activists were anxiously waiting, so were the

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Speaker 4: Good, just do a pickup. Jim Carlo was also there

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Speaker 5: Gian Carlo was also there taking pictures, but we barely

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Speaker 4: Great, that's great, okay, so then the trial happens more.

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Speaker 4: It continues. The planes that killed mothers, whatever, whenever gen

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Speaker 4: Carlo went to Rome, he'd fly Orlina said, Gina's And

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Speaker 4: Let's just read that through right, or you want to

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Speaker 3: Okay, the whole thing, just so, just so you get

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Speaker 1: Trial here again, Andres is reading his lines, this narrator

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Speaker 3: Queuing alexis a state sanctioned assess nation program. The pilots

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Speaker 3: that killed the mothers and the nuns. The victims chosen

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Speaker 3: a death flight in December nineteen seventy seven, a skyvan,

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Speaker 3: of these pilots were flying regularly to Europe for Arlinus Argentinas,

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Speaker 4: When whenever last name I had heard it before.

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Speaker 3: Whenever Jiancadlo went to Rome, He'll flied with Elinas Argentinas.

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Speaker 3: Eru and Saint George had asked to leave the military

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Speaker 3: One pilot, Alejandro DOMINGUOI Agustino, stayed and eventually ran airplane maintenance.

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Speaker 5: Seventeen days after the flight where the nuns and the

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Speaker 4: Alexis this is very important that you pinpoint this. Seventeen

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Speaker 4: It was only seventeen days after them.

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Speaker 5: Seventeen days after the flight where the nuns and the

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Speaker 4: Wonderful one more time, just to keep that same, don't

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Speaker 4: Beautiful networks.

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Speaker 3: At this point, a new prosecutor comes into the picture,

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Speaker 3: and I say this, so so Riety has the big

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Speaker 4: Okay, here say this, so let's just do this line again.

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Speaker 4: I have to be ready to talk with lawyer you

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Speaker 4: long as I am alive, it is my responsibility. I'm

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Speaker 5: Okay, is it okay?

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Speaker 3: To scroll back up?

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Speaker 4: Dan? Please?

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much. I have to be ready to

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Speaker 4: That was great. Now let's do one a little more intense.

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Speaker 4: But that's a good version. That's an all And let's

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Speaker 5: I have to be ready to talk with lawyers and

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Speaker 4: Which as long as yeah, give me a little more energy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to be ready to talk with lawyers

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Speaker 3: Good addressed, Maybe I think that works.

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Speaker 5: And there they've and there they finally were sitting side

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's great. Now I want you to say it,

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Speaker 5: Okay, And there and there they finally were sitting side

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Speaker 4: Very good, very good. You good with that on.

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Speaker 3: This Yeah, just it'd be good to just have that

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So handed with the pilot St. Georgian Agustina went

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Speaker 5: Every single one of those sixty eight had done their

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Speaker 5: part to complete this horrifying mission successfully.

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Speaker 3: Great, and then the just the first line instead of

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Speaker 3: and there they finally were, which we already got that

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Speaker 3: just as back up, and there they were without the

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Speaker 3: finally in it, just that line.

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Speaker 4: Maybe there they were sitting side by side. Sixty eight

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Speaker 4: people accused.

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Speaker 5: And there they were sitting side by side. Sixty eight

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Speaker 4: Great, one more time sitting side by side, like let's

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Speaker 4: see that sixty yeah, just slow it down. But that was.

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Speaker 5: And there they were sitting side by side, sixty eight

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Speaker 5: people accused.

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Speaker 3: Great, sounds good, thank you Alexis yes, okay.

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Speaker 6: Um, where is the top?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So we don't want to quote him anymore, the like,

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Speaker 2: where are those planes?

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Speaker 3: We cut that out right?

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Speaker 2: So just the.

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Speaker 4: Pink do we need that?

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Speaker 3: I'm not attached to it.

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Speaker 4: We already have this without gane Carlo. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: it's better. Cool.

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Speaker 3: It's Chris, thank you for that.

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Speaker 5: Without gian Carlo, we never would have started this investigation

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Speaker 5: in the first place. We never would have brought the

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Speaker 5: pilots to justice.

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Speaker 4: Good. It's going to be powerful, you know, definitely going

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Speaker 4: to be powerful. So all right, well, send Alexis and

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Speaker 4: I the finished thing when you got it. I obviously

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Speaker 4: here first, but then looking forward to it. Alexis, Yes,

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Speaker 4: me too.

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Speaker 5: I can't wait to hear it.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much, Alexis.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Austin, call to to meet you person funk.

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Speaker 1: All right, I hope you enjoyed this peak behind the curtain.

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of credits. Austin Smith is our associate producer,

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Speaker 1: production coordinator andres our senior producer. Fisher Stevens is the

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Speaker 1: director and in this bonus episode, we feature Alexis Bledell,

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Speaker 1: who voices the character of Miriam. Remember as a member

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Speaker 1: of True Crime Clubhouse, you can listen to ad free

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Speaker 1: see you next time.