WEBVTT - The Hump on the Haybale

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, have you watched Sirens No Good?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I finished watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I watched like half, maybe not even half of

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<v Speaker 1>the first one. I'm like, I can't tell if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're it's good, it's on my Oh. Hannah goes yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so good and faith I can't ever say I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't know how to pronounce her last name.

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<v Speaker 2>She's everywhere. She is in that one Netflix show, but

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<v Speaker 2>then she's like been in you know, literally she's I

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<v Speaker 2>just watched the movie with her called The Drop with

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<v Speaker 2>a Brendan I'm gonna I don't know name. She was

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<v Speaker 2>in The Perfect Stranger. Yeah, I mean so much. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, she's blowing it up. She's good though.

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<v Speaker 2>I like her. I so I saw that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to check it out. But I am so

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<v Speaker 2>behind on so many shows because I'm in I watched

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<v Speaker 2>four seasons right now with so good Steve Carell. It's funny,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very real for is fiction, like as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's not real, but it's very real. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>big Steve Girl fan. I think he's so Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>ran to him a Starbucks one time and.

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<v Speaker 3>There, Yeah, I was like one of the first time

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<v Speaker 3>I was fun and he was so like nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I like it when it matches what you

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<v Speaker 2>think they would be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really do comedy at yeah something. Yeah, that's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember that was a fun star saying yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, it's funny. I was just talking with girlfriends. Any.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of hate it for up and coming actresses

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<v Speaker 2>and actors right now because if it's a good cast,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of those recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Kate Hudson done, I'm in you know, Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Carrell was in that one. I'm like sure, but that

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<v Speaker 2>Sirens was really great. They say, hey, hey, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>whole point. Okay, it's like a thing in there and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like hey, And I was like, oh, hey, can

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<v Speaker 2>you guys start calling me Kiki tablet. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>another time. Hey, how do you guys doings go on? Good?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good. We don't sound.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have something I'll probably bring to the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>in maybe a week or two. MM. You're letting it brew.

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<v Speaker 2>You're letting it simmer. I'm letting it actually breathe instead.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm gonna do that. Therapist Sam, he's been

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<v Speaker 2>online one this morning, so we're chatting it through. Who's

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<v Speaker 2>it about? Kid? Husband? Neither neither. No, So let's just

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<v Speaker 2>let hate that. This is what you do to us, Cliffhanger.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we already online about it?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, No, it's I just I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to give it a minute before I give it, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm giving it real air before we give it on air,

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes it gets a little it's layered.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Love Amy, she's an organ right now. Yeah. She thought

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<v Speaker 2>of me last night, and so when I text sent

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<v Speaker 2>her a little voice note in some sort of desperation,

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<v Speaker 2>just like need some clarity or somewhere to bounce this

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<v Speaker 2>off of, she was like, I thought of you last night,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's usually when God is like speaking

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<v Speaker 2>into a situation. So that feels good. Yeah, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>for summer, so that's what I have. I actually don't

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<v Speaker 2>really have a wine about it either, because I just

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<v Speaker 2>love summer and I'm excited. We're not doing camps, really,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just going all in. Is that I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the odd man out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean it's been fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been two days.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it hasn't been that long. Yeah, it hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>been that long. We haven't had that much so, like

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<v Speaker 3>one of my kids has gone, so it really hasn't been.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they camping? Does anybody can do you care? We're

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<v Speaker 2>doing a week of Christian camp. It's like an outdoorbe

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<v Speaker 2>a deer run. Oh yeah, yeah, so it's we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>that for a week. When is that? And have been something? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a week in June. So is this the first time? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And they just go all day? Yeah, okay, are you

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<v Speaker 2>nervous about ticks?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they'll have ticks for sure, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>They just had to get a tick off of Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I've already had to get ticks my kids this summer.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what is that? And then everywhere they're

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<v Speaker 2>wild Dramatic experience. Love is doing a fine arts camp.

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<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, so you are doing a camp. It's our

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<v Speaker 2>first only camp, but like that's it. And it's at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time as like Leggie's Little Summer Baseball and

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<v Speaker 2>then that's a wrap for summer activities like in summer

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<v Speaker 2>baseball's like three weekends. So I like that, right, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like excited, Guys, I don't know why. I just

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<v Speaker 2>need the weather to get a little warmer.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I haven't loved that. It hasn't felt like summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so for me, I'm kind of like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>i feel like I've been inside me. Ramsey's had like

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<v Speaker 1>a little softball camp that's been a couple hours for

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<v Speaker 1>like three days, but like she wants to go swimming

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<v Speaker 1>every day and I'm like, it's freezing.

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<v Speaker 2>We're classify as a camp. I mean, you know a camp.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you have a done ball and a flashlight

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<v Speaker 2>and hoping Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>And any of those kind of camps.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing a sleep away next year because that's the first

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<v Speaker 2>year that you can do a sleep away. Yeah, it's fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you feel about that? She wants to so like, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you want to do. Is it far? No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just Dear Run. If anyone she's at her vacation

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<v Speaker 2>home a Deer Run there's their residence. I love that,

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<v Speaker 2>though I'm excited for she actually wants to do well.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the cabins there. We just did a camp

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<v Speaker 2>a day camp for school, and I saw the Cabins

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like love was like, now, tell me about

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<v Speaker 2>these cabins, and they, oh, you went to Deer Run. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like the day Okay, I've never been. Oh it's so

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<v Speaker 2>it's cute. It's literally out of a movie. It makes

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<v Speaker 2>me want to go to camp. It made me want

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<v Speaker 2>to like plan a camp. Well, so I started watching

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<v Speaker 2>shows with Jolie and Jayce, you know, because they're always

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<v Speaker 2>watching the same ones, like Jase wants to watch The

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<v Speaker 2>Sonic One. Uh, Jolie, which one does she she wants

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<v Speaker 2>to watch some like zombie Land thing. And so I'm like, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>two really good movies. I need you guys to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>So we watched The Parent Trap all fun and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like introducing Lindsay Lohan to watch that. Now. I

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<v Speaker 2>was the only one that ended up watching both movies

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like they're they get bored.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they get bored with those older movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they tried to not retain their Julie a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>Jace again a little bit, and then it was like done.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we watched It Takes Two, you know, Gutenberg,

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<v Speaker 2>who I just did a movie with, and so, which

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, comes out June seventh on Lifetime. Check

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<v Speaker 2>it out. Uh so, but that movie was The Camp

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<v Speaker 2>Yes with the Girls, and I was like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>would be so I never got to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I never had either.

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<v Speaker 2>I did like as I got older, Margie Man Camp

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<v Speaker 2>Across Country Camp. That's cute. That's cute. It's not really

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like maybe what else would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>say about No. I love that band camp going. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I opened it wide open anybody anybody I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>A character based off of it for you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>no backbracee band camp. I mean, guys, if if ever

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<v Speaker 2>there was a time to just live in. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>great though. It's better than being on video games all day.

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<v Speaker 2>Builds character absolutely being on video games.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how they can't take because you know, most

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<v Speaker 1>of these Sleepway camps they can't take their phones.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I also love.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for the older ones, like Caiden's done it every

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<v Speaker 1>year until this year, he won't do it this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Emmy started probably about fourth or fifth grade doing one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then this summer she's just gonna do like a

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<v Speaker 1>regular church camp.

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<v Speaker 2>But we need to actually do the Sleepoy one next

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<v Speaker 2>year at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it'll be interesting to see Ramsey do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Emmy and Cayden were like, Peace, don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>call you for a week. I am fine, Ramsey, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think she'd be fine. All my kids

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty independent. She's probably the least. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>she'd be fine. But like the others were like Peace

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<v Speaker 1>and not even thought about it, Ransey, You'll be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see if she would do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Love still thinks she's connected with the Umbilition, definitely, not

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<v Speaker 2>that that would be like great pick me up at

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<v Speaker 2>too pm today sounds great. Yeah, interesting, we'll try it on.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll try I'll try it on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Very cool, very cool, very cool, very cool. Cram

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. Any updates? I mean, I've got so I

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<v Speaker 2>got this offer finally came in today.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, you start on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I can't. I just knew this was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Another movie. Yeah, are you leaving? No this guy, there's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>she's not leaving this. We've already agreed to do something else. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bummer because I wish I could say who

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<v Speaker 2>the actor was. He's a very very well known actor

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<v Speaker 2>and he's writing it, he's directing it. Problem is, there's

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<v Speaker 2>only sixty pages, so it's not even a finished script.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, I had a call today with the

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<v Speaker 2>person that was doing it. I'm like, okay, so we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna start filming on Sunday. Where is the rest of this?

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, let me know if you have any questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I actually have a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Like how about the middle and the end?

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<v Speaker 2>How does it?

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<v Speaker 3>And oh my gosh what He's like, Well, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just how he rolls like he's been doing. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand he is who he is and that is

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<v Speaker 2>that's amazing and I would love nothing more than And

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, and he said, if you don't feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with doing you know, he'll just start talking until because

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<v Speaker 2>what he's doing is he's filming it like adolescents, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's one camera, one thing. So he's like, the first

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<v Speaker 2>scene is like an eighteen minute scene. He's like, so

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't know your words, it's fine. He'll just

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<v Speaker 2>keep talking and then you can catch up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, okay again, in theory, this sounds great.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this idea. Having said that we are this

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<v Speaker 2>is Wednesday, okay, the twenty eighth, and you are starting

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<v Speaker 2>shooting on Sunday. I need to at least know the

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<v Speaker 2>basis of what is happening character wise, so that I

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<v Speaker 2>can know what the hell I'm saying or when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I saying yes to yeah. And so that's a big

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<v Speaker 2>trust fall. It's and Alan was on the phone with

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<v Speaker 2>me because we had just finished playing tennis, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I got to call this guy back

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<v Speaker 2>because he's like wanting to book my Airbnb and he's

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<v Speaker 2>asking that questions. I'm like, I would like to know

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<v Speaker 2>how the script ends.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a question, Like I would love to know.

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<v Speaker 2>That piece of it, but they need to film around

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<v Speaker 2>this very big A listers schedule, and in any other world,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it would be like duh, we'll go do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, I can't go do that when I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what happens in the script. I can't leave

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<v Speaker 2>to pack my bags and be like, what's the script?

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<v Speaker 2>I may be surprised. I'm a little fascinated that this

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<v Speaker 2>can happen, saying that's where I'm stuck.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, does this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>But because this person is who this person is, it

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<v Speaker 2>can happen or just does this apparently? So but I

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<v Speaker 2>texted my agent, I sent her a voice memo and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Hey, this is where this is at. And

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<v Speaker 2>I I've said, I have now committed. Since you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have been stringing me along this entire time, You've been

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<v Speaker 2>stringing me along on the dates, I have said no

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<v Speaker 2>to two things. My Lifetime movie wants me to promote

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<v Speaker 2>the movie, and I've got another opportunity to do something

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<v Speaker 2>a day in LA and so I have now committed

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<v Speaker 2>to that. So if you can't work around my schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>now I can't do it. You know, because he's like, well, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>these are we're shooting it in seven days. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>my go but shooting what because TVD? I mean that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so I'm like and if he but he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't understand why I don't want to do it. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean you can't do it? I can't

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<v Speaker 2>do it because it's like I also like, this person

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a family as well, so I'm like, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got kids. I have to figure out I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't throw this on me and leave start shooting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, sorry son in four days. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of with the agent and so I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of want you to take I know why you can't,

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<v Speaker 2>but I oh, the agent said, She's like no, She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you too, take it. She goes, this

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<v Speaker 2>seems I mean, I'll tell you all my phones recording.

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<v Speaker 2>But she basically was like, it seems very chaotic and

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<v Speaker 2>not how this normally would go, and for someone it

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<v Speaker 2>should be more thorough and thought out. I just am

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<v Speaker 2>actually floored that they can even present it and be

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<v Speaker 2>casting for something that isn't finished, right unless that is

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<v Speaker 2>well the characters. And that's the thing. Even when you

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<v Speaker 2>read like the script, it's like the names are in

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<v Speaker 2>there as the names, you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Just like it's just and but here's the thing that

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<v Speaker 4>the first there's no character name, just my name, Janna

0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Kramer playing Janni Crame.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So and it's again like it would be so

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<v Speaker 2>cool and I wish I could say who it was

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<v Speaker 2>because it would be freaking amazing and so fun. And

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<v Speaker 2>I I just am like, I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 2>can how I could do that? If I was I

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<v Speaker 2>told Alan this, If I was a didn't have kids,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have anything else going on, why not do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Go have fun? Go shoot this thing in a chaos and.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be fun. It could be so fun and creatively.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love nothing more than to work with an

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<v Speaker 2>actor like that. It would be amazing. Having said that,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want only four days to prepare for something

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<v Speaker 2>up against someone like that too. It also could be

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<v Speaker 2>a disaster. Yeah, because I don't want to suck.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have the first seventy pages, you can for

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<v Speaker 1>sixty sixty Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety, we're missing like forty five pages.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you like the script so far?

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<v Speaker 2>It was not what the script was supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun, totally different character. This just feels like

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<v Speaker 2>a mad lib. I think, yeah, just stay home, honey,

0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:52.560
<v Speaker 2>we need you here. So I think all that to

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<v Speaker 2>be said is I think I'm gonna not do that one,

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<v Speaker 2>which again is a bummer. But here's my question to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I text this aless actor, So we haven't. We've

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<v Speaker 2>only zoomed once. We have had a a group message

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<v Speaker 2>between the one producer and him, but it hasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot of common But now he wrote the

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<v Speaker 2>script for us, and then this other Academy Award winner

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<v Speaker 2>nominee for nominee who she's accepted the role. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like this, this is where it's hard. This

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<v Speaker 2>is where I'm like, take it, figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>You can figure out the.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I mean so she's agreed to play the grandma

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<v Speaker 2>in it with him, and then me as that I

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<v Speaker 2>would be. I was the girl that he left behind

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<v Speaker 2>and he went to jail because he murdered someone. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like this whole like it's a big old I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's a thriller.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah to a list. I'm I'm like happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we reconsider you?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you could figure this out?

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna help you figure There's a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>me though, that wants to And I asked Alan, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think I should text him and just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, thank you for first of all, loved what

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<v Speaker 2>I read so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wait, real quick, he didn't write it and.

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<v Speaker 2>It yeah yeah in real time, it seems yeah, in

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<v Speaker 2>real time okay, So and he's in cans writing it

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<v Speaker 2>so like he has a film that he's promoting in

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<v Speaker 2>Cans right now. So there's a piece of me where

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<v Speaker 2>So I got alan, I was like, should I text

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<v Speaker 2>him and say, you know, from what I've read, I

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<v Speaker 2>really like the script. What I'm being told is that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to film in these six to seven days.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I wasn't sure of the time. I have now

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<v Speaker 2>accepted something that I need to go and do for

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<v Speaker 2>a movie for us. Uh, you know, if the schedules

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<v Speaker 2>able to move, would love to be a part of it,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, hope to work with you. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think if I don't do it, he'll never respond

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<v Speaker 2>or be like because it's like I'm a dime a dozen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know what I'm saying, Like I'm a I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a dime a dozen in this world right to him.

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<v Speaker 2>But even then, hold hold on, hold on. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to really think this is okay.

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<v Speaker 3>This can't go away.

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<v Speaker 2>We can only do someday to so we'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>cancel La bib.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I understand that, but hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>Where willing to cancel? This is different? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, hold on? Where is it filming Georgia?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I do think it's worth saying, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've committed to these things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I know?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is there any way to work around them? We

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<v Speaker 1>can cancel if we have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, honey, I'm excited for your next.

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<v Speaker 1>I say that knowing that I came or get in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It is definitely not want to you know me. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's something I don't want to cancel, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>say it's something you absolutely cannot cancel and you get

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<v Speaker 1>to work around it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel like you could and it would be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that because I don't like the chaoticness

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but that.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be so good for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the chaos for you. What is happening, exactly happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Go do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Who has life?

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<v Speaker 1>You did a movie you were I'm sorry, but you

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<v Speaker 1>were in where Bahamas and had to leave and get home,

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<v Speaker 1>figure out your kids, pack a bag, get on a

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<v Speaker 1>plane that night, and go to another movie.

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<v Speaker 2>She does know, but that she did have a script

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<v Speaker 2>from that. I understand why it all feels.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to start with the sixty pages, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going with you. Yeah, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, and I suddenly people, I cannot wait

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<v Speaker 2>to be there to support you emotionally, Georgia. It can

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<v Speaker 2>be for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I can need to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually was talking about you last night. Oh I know,

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<v Speaker 2>he texted me. Well, they called me. Okay, they were

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<v Speaker 2>on a walk listening to us. Okay, was that because

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking a bad about country radio? A program director?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Program directors. I've in my phone, I've got the names

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<v Speaker 2>and this ship we talked about. And I go and

0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.960
<v Speaker 2>they're like, is this still Jannah? And I was like, yeah, hey,

0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.000
<v Speaker 2>what's up. He's like, actually, was just talking to Chris,

0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.960
<v Speaker 2>And I said and then my mind goes, oh but nothing, no,

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<v Speaker 2>but truth. We're very honest. And I also said that,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, because this person is such a

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<v Speaker 2>such a good dude and a like a buttoned up guy.

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.520
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't understand that their slimy ones out there, which

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<v Speaker 2>I for him, right, I like it. But he's one

0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of the ones where I'm like, would love to see

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<v Speaker 2>you and your wife if you came in the nash

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<v Speaker 2>and we're yeah, deeply. So that's like when I see

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<v Speaker 2>what's his face at church all the time? Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>He used to be the Norfolk pd UH program director

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<v Speaker 2>John Shombi.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he goes to church.

0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 2>He goes, he goes to our church. Every time I

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<v Speaker 2>see him and his wife, like, I give them a

0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.320
<v Speaker 2>like I love that lovely, Like he was a he

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<v Speaker 2>was a good one, yeah, And Mike is a good one. Yeah,

0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.520
<v Speaker 2>A good MinC. Yes, and we all need one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, Oh, it's really tricky these days. Anyways, I

0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.520
<v Speaker 2>can tear any wonderful people. And they and we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this, I'm going to leap this, get us

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<v Speaker 2>back to your role that you're going to take. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so sity for you. I'm i gotta get my phone

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.480
<v Speaker 2>back to be like, wait a minute, maybe about it.

0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.080
<v Speaker 2>We can pause for that. I was saying to them,

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<v Speaker 2>this version of you, I said, you have to remember,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, Jana and I have been friends for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time now, like twelve eleven twelve. I met

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<v Speaker 2>you when I was doing radio so long long time ago,

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, I've seen so many different versions of

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<v Speaker 2>who she is, and I am, I'm so proud of

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<v Speaker 2>the person she is now in a different way than

0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.919
<v Speaker 2>as a friend, but just like I just really am.

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.720
<v Speaker 2>I love who she is now and I love who

0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.639
<v Speaker 2>she's like invested in herself. I love who Alan brings

0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:17.760
<v Speaker 2>out in her. And I texted you and Alan not

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<v Speaker 2>too long ago and was like, I just really love

0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.280
<v Speaker 2>that y'all found each other because we get Alan, we

0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:27.440
<v Speaker 2>deserve him. It's been a long ride. And I was

0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.399
<v Speaker 2>saying that, I was like, I just think Jana's in

0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:34.280
<v Speaker 2>just such a different, sturdier place, and I think you

0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.080
<v Speaker 2>could handle the chaos of this, and I think this

0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:37.959
<v Speaker 2>could be a really good opportunity. These are the kind

0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 2>of things that I'm afraid hindsight are like epic because

0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 2>they weren't normal. Yeah, and I want it could be

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>a train wreck.

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<v Speaker 3>It could.

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<v Speaker 2>But also that Alex said that my agent, she goes

0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a single cam, not thought out. We cannot control the

0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.160
<v Speaker 2>outcome of it like it is. It could be a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's something to consider and conversation to have.

0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I just my fear with what we were saying earlier

0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.679
<v Speaker 1>would be that you are a diamond dozen with this actor.

0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 1>It would be great to be in with him if

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 1>he is writing scripts, you know, all those things that

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you've already thought about, you know that are obviously also

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>important to think about.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's a conversation to have.

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it could be a complete where you

0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:23.960
<v Speaker 1>have no control and you're not proud of your work,

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:25.199
<v Speaker 1>I get that too.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love a well rounded portfolio for you. You've

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<v Speaker 2>done so much, You've grown in your career so much.

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.400
<v Speaker 3>And want you for other stuff, and that is why

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:36.640
<v Speaker 3>you take a lot of these things.

0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and not many people are going to move into

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.359
<v Speaker 2>the trust fall with him, right, This is a trust

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is a trust fall. But this person,

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.119
<v Speaker 2>they are also trying to rebuild the reputation. They might

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:53.160
<v Speaker 2>not be back in as well, but people will watch

0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 2>because of that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can help them.

0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who he is, you do, I don't

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:03.440
<v Speaker 1>remember you know what name? I don't know Nate. I

0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know anyone's names.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask her. I don't know any actors' names.

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<v Speaker 2>I just get the reaction from I'm gonna you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>hid hide the thing really because you might be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, because okay, okay, okay, oh we're going remind

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<v Speaker 2>me we're going.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked them up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mom.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I was like, what was that?

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<v Speaker 2>I never can remember actors. We can talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but our singers not actors. I I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>this seems very unbrand for me for this person. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>unless shocked. I know, say, yeah, something person would do right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why all right, let's move on to one.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you next week Georgia, Carolinas.

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<v Speaker 3>And then back on the couch. Okay, I was y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing is more real than what just happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>last time. I don't know how this is how we

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<v Speaker 1>really knew this. I know, if you really want to

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<v Speaker 1>see how it happens to convince Shannah she can do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I just know we have such similar personality types. So

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<v Speaker 2>I do like to speak a little life into you

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<v Speaker 2>in those areas of nonstructure, because I know our default

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 2>is structure, because that feels safe to us and responsible

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 2>to us, and it is all of those things. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there's anything wrong with the way that we

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<v Speaker 2>like structure and prefer it. Yeah, but I also think

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you need the friend that speaks to your capability

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 2>and like what could be good and stretching for you,

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 2>and like you are just so talented that I like you,

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 2>And I mean my husband wants to be your agent,

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 2>like Preston Brust every time, like Kramer could nail this.

0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Why doesn't she have this role, so like I want

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<v Speaker 2>that for you, you would nail it, thanks, friend. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, whine about it. You know what I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like with my manager and your friend and friend books

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<v Speaker 2>something and then tells me not to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That, because that's how it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, I'm not surprised by this conversation in

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<v Speaker 1>the least because when you don't get answers, you don't

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>get answers. You don't get answers, you book something else.

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<v Speaker 1>The answers come every time.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel a great sense of comfortability and just validation

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 2>that this is how your world is working, because this

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 2>is how it feels at home for me all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm literally like, can I plan anything and look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to anything? It's so frustrating. I like it for

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<v Speaker 2>you a lot, just not for me. Any whine about

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 2>it for you. Whine about it, man, anything you want

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 2>to share, you know, it's interesting. I don't know what

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I want to share about this. Maybe mine is a

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<v Speaker 2>brewer too, but I've been kind of going through something

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 2>and I don't Yeah, maybe I'm going to brew mine too,

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>okay a little bit, But I will say I did

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<v Speaker 2>start my period after twenty seven something day, So.

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<v Speaker 3>You just skipped one.

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so, And you're not in perimenopause. I

0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I haven't heard back yet about my love work.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned. I really don't have anything to whine about.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't sound convincing, but that's no.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't like. I don't. Okay, maybe I feel

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>like you do, you know, I'm really I don't. I

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>guess I'm not even a whine about it. But so

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 2>we were in couples therapy. Oh kidding, no, and I

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<v Speaker 2>she said something so she's new our couple therapist is

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<v Speaker 2>new okay to you are new to us as a couple, okay,

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>not new to the therapy world. No, no, no, no, okay.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 2>But she said something that I don't know. It kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like it kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to know, but like a couple things. Yeah,

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and have you ever been in a couple's therapy session

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<v Speaker 2>where you feel like they just target the girls?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh yeah?

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Where I'm like, but did, and I'm like, I will

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<v Speaker 2>take accountability and right, But she said something to me

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 2>where she was like, it's not like I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to we did a little exercise where she wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do something with him, and then I went we went

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<v Speaker 2>out for like a little walk and in that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, when he was going through the things, She's like,

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>you didn't reach over to like touch him or humphort.

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>And I said, because a lot of times what I've heard,

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>like other therapists have told me, let that person have

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 2>the moment they're having. So when someone was to give

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>someone like a tissue, they say, actually, don't offer the

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 2>tissue because let that person it's okay for that person

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<v Speaker 2>to cry. Basically, so of me handing someone a tissue

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 2>would say like, you shouldn't be cry or something like that. Right,

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 2>So another therapist in the past had like told me that,

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<v Speaker 2>So I just when someone's explaining their stuff, i'd let

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 2>them kind of have their moment. And she's like, and

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not that I was grading you, but I guess

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>she's said grading you no, And she's like, but I

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 2>just like I was surprised and it's not like you

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>failed the test. And I was like, then stop saying

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 2>you're grading me and failing. And I was like, she

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 2>kept saying it. I was like, just because I didn't

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>what did you want me to put my hand down? Like?

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I was letting him have his But.

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Also shouldn't people be able to be themselves? Yeah?

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>And then also we were we kind of went into

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the fight like I wasn't ready to be warm to

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 2>him yet in that moment. That's bizarre to me. So

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like that. But what bothered me, my real

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 2>wine about it is I don't like to feel judged

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>in a therapy room.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 3>No, I wouldn't. I would That would be so hard

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 3>for me.

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>It's a little judged. Well it's also just not helpful. Yeah,

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. Maybe I guess I got to

0:27:57.040 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 2>talk to Alan about and see, wouldn't really talk talk

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>about it. Yeah, I mean I don't. I just don't

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's yeah, I've never I mean, couple therapy was

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>always hard for us, but we are therapist a long

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>time ago who we used to share. She actually really

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>targeted him. I could even see it. I was even

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 1>like whoa, whoa, whoa. But I did this, you know,

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 1>like like there were moments where I'm like whoa, you know,

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>she really did. And I didn't like that feeling. Even

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>though in moments I was like, yeah, go me, you know,

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, this doesn't feel like fair, this

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel in the middle, which I feel like you

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>should be a you know, you should feel like that.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I would think in couples therapy for the most part

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<v Speaker 1>and then just help people figure it out, I would think,

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, couples therapy was never great for us

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>because it always just kinda I loved ours, yeah, and

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe because we didn't have the right I mean, I

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>know we did not have the right person, but I

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>just that would not set well with me.

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I already struggled with.

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Doing therapy anyway, and if I felt like someone was

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>judging me or grading me, or thought that I needed

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to touch someone when I did not feel like I should.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Be touching someone, that would be a problem for me.

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's so to me the difference,

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just going to say it the way I

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>want to say, like, between a good therapist and a

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 2>bad therapist in that moment, what I have experienced with

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 2>our couples therapists, we am a so brilliant. Would she

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>would say, I noticed when he did that, you didn't

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>reach out. Why didn't you reach out, right, that would

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>be because then you could have a minute like that.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>We came in and I felt, yeah, I was protecting

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 2>myself because we've been in the moat, you know. Yeah,

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>like because I'm the one, I get pretty guarded. We

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>all know, and so like you know, it's that severe

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 2>independent so I'm the one that kind of like it

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 2>just walls up, you know. So she would even say

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 2>to me, She's like, I did you want to reach out?

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Like did you what did you want to say to him?

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 2>In that moment? There was not a test or well

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 2>that just makes it. I mean, how can anyone feel

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>safe in that space if you feel like everything you're

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>doing is being analyzed? Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, I'm excited

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 2>for you and you couples therapists and I know, right

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of newness.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait for you to talk to Amy about it.

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>So did you know? I know Amy's like and off

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>the recommendation, right, I mean, tidy up that resource page? True? Okay, yeah,

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>don't be judged in therapy. We're judged everywhere. Can I

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>just go to a safe place, especially when I'm paying you?

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes that yeah, yes, yeah, good Grace anybody else.

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm gonna let mines do too.

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm putting three weeks of.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Can you give us a keyword? I mean I've talked

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 3>about it on here before.

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Can you give one keyword? Yeah? Just friends okay and

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Cramer kids, friends both. Can I have your keyword because

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pin it. I always love a keyword. It's

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>my favorite too. Just to see what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you just go into yours or was it something

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 3>that's something different?

0:30:58.720 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I can, I can pull something different.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll work on that pin. I'll let you know.

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you know about that one. Okay, what's your pin? Well?

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Code word? Will? I don't know what do we code order?

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>When you go listen to your message, you'll know too.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>You just were busy, so you didn't she you were recording. Yeah,

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>mine will be nature code word, nature code word words,

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 2>runnings okay, boom okay. Jane found a wish that she

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 2>had an intimacy coordinator for her sex scenes. It's hard,

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 2>how about okay? Can we've used different words? Come on?

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Everyone read the room. So when she was in Oh,

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 2>she was at the Cans Film Festival. Uh, they're called

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 2>intimacy corners. I wish I had them while I was

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>doing sex scenes because it's hard, uh, trying to navigate.

0:31:50.800 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I again, she was by the way, you just

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 3>like move on from it.

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>No, I did anyone else. I something keeps popping up

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>on my Instagram about the Amy Schumer and what's his face?

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>The wrestler sounds like he actually went inside of her. Wow.

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's made up or I just

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>made I swear to you, I have seen something about

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>saying that he actually went inside of her wow during

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the scene. Guy, that's called sex, And I know, But

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Jane said, what a difference it would have made in

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 2>terms of my comfort to the outlet. I missed out

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>on that one. It's even hard. It's hard to it's

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>hard even to describe the difference when you're the only

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>woman on set, literally the only that would be I mean,

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 2>so we're intimacy coordinators like newer I've had. It's well,

0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>it costs money for production technically under SAG rules, I believe. Again,

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe you're supposed to have them on a SAG set,

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 2>But I don't remember having an intimacy coordinator on Montree Hill.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I would think they'd be newer. Maybe you do all this,

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 2>this is a newer thing, and that when I was

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 2>giving what's his face? You know that fake hand job

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>in Entourage, I was just gonna ask about that. I mean,

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 2>that was there was nobody helping me with that. It

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>was me asking Jerry Jerry being like, so what do

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I I don't know to do? Do it like you know,

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>and the guys, the camera guys and touch my upper leg.

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>So I was like just rubbing his upper leg, which

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 2>is so uncomfortable. But I will say, what they do

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>do is they take everybody out of the room that

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to be in the room, because there's normally

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.239
<v Speaker 2>so many people that are there that don't really need

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>to be there. So like when I was having the

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 2>intimacy scene, the intimate scene with Austin, when we were

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 2>filming that movie and I was in my lingerie, there

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>was in even people away from Video Village, Like there's

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 2>only the people that have to be at Video Village

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 2>are watching and then everyone else isn't in the room.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, we didn't have an intimacy coordinator on that.

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it feels to me like it should

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 2>be required. I think it should.

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't. We probably need to figure out whether

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 3>it is required or not required. I don't know.

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>It feels like I know that it costs money to production,

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 2>which is probably why they don't do it. But I

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:39.959
<v Speaker 2>think there's something where again, just like in The Blake,

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like, we know we don't need it. Yeah, you

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and I can figure it out. I always just think

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>you should air on the for example, like things that

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.720
<v Speaker 2>happen like that movie. You should always a production should

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 2>pay for someone to just err on the side of

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>just a third party. Yeah, like we had someone for

0:34:55.000 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 2>the country h Christmas hump on, then Haebel thing, so

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 2>like we have I love.

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Today to tell you. I forgot we were so many guys.

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 3>You guys the hump on me. Please let the hump

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 3>on they be.

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 2>The title of this, but we have someone for that.

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 2>And then she's like, are you comfortable if he puts

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>his hand there, are you comfortable? And I'm like, and

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>so it was the penis out when you rubbed the lake.

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 2>I need to know that he was wearing boxers, but

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 2>it was there. Sure, Yeah, that's right, take it out.

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Got it nailed that part. No, it's a where's the penis?

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 2>When you're like, but I've had people that have to

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 2>do the sock, Like if you're doing a butt, yeah,

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>someone had to put a sock on a penis.

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 3>Because you're showing the butt.

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Because you're showing the butt. But I will say this,

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to intimacy corners, sometimes it's even if

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 2>you're not comfortable with the actor. I think an intimacy coordinator,

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 2>or if you don't know the actor, like I knew Austin,

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I knew I could he can be like, hey, is

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 2>this okay? Can am I okay to put yes? Like

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>we we have that friendship. If I don't know someone,

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 2>I would I would love and always probably want an

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 2>intimacy coordinator. But if you are comfortable with the person,

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 2>then it's sometimes easier than the coordinator being like okay,

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>can he put his I was like, can we just

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 2>like this is some realization? Just be there. It's all

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like, maybe their role is different. Presence is

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 2>just to be yeah yeah and let you guys work

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 2>it out. But they could just be witnessed to you

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 2>working it out. But I can't imagine back in the day,

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I don't the Wild West, Yes, especially

0:36:44.560 --> 0:37:00.439
<v Speaker 2>for women. Lord. So there was a video, a viral

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 2>video that came out is the French president. He's getting

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 2>shoved in the face by his wife, Brigitte by The

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 2>president forty seven later strugged it off and claimed the

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>couple had just been squabbling. We're squabbling and rather joking

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 2>with my wife. I'm gonna called Macaroon told reporters. I'm

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 2>surprised by it. It turns into some kind of catastrophe,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 2>catastrophe where people are even coming up with theories to

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 2>explain it. It's nonsense. What I think is nonsense is

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 2>him just like clearly it wasn't just a little like

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 2>to say that like you're caught, it's nonsense. Well, no,

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 2>if you guys were just having fun, she wouldn't have

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 2>completely snubbed your arm when walking down the right. She

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 2>was pissed, right, you guys were in a fight. And

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I think what I would have appreciated is the honesty

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>in that moment to be like like every marital couple, couple,

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 2>we have our moments and then.

0:37:58.360 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Just happened to get caught on camera.

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>The problem with it, though, is it is a piece

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 2>of domestic I mean, it is domestic She was him

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 2>in the face, so it is. And so that if

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 2>you say it's anything but fun, it becomes a domestic violence.

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>So that's how is that though even if it wasn't fun,

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>can't someone say I was joking at any point and

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 1>they put their hands on you, Like, I don't think

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>that that's okay either.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's just in fun that she put her hands

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>on me. Well like when we're like, I'll be like,

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that's so different to me now, But I don't shove

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:33.280
<v Speaker 2>him in his face. Okay, we're let's say this is again,

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I am not like we know, this is just a discussion.

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 2>If he is scaring me, Let's say we're playing. Maybe

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>they were having a fun game of fucking hide and

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>seek kind of playing right before the door opens. The

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>door opens, and if he if we're playing, I will

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>shove push in a fun, joking way because I'm.

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Like, you scared me? What if you know? Again?

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Do I think that's it? But I'm just doing Devil's

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Advocate to what you said, in a playful way. Yes

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I would. I would push like that if if I'm like,

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 2>you scared me, like that is in my nature of

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 2>playing around to be like, ah to my.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Husband, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, I hear you.

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 2>So maybe they were having a game of hide and mask.

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 3>We'll give aaboo peekaboo plenty of places to hide.

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>The camera is just epic. And then they walk down

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 1>really joking around. Let me tell you, that's where it's

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>not joking.

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. She was pissed and so clearly they

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 2>were having a fight. But to make it so to

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 2>not do that, you know, walking down the stairs then

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>points to be honest about what just happened, because now

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 2>you're just making a fool and then take ownership for

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the wife to say, in no instance is it okay

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 2>for a woman to put their hands on a man

0:39:59.520 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>to right?

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so absolutely.

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I felt really bad for him that he had to

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 2>pretend that that didn't happen, because he does, he goes

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 2>into instant politician mode. And I hate this is something

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I thought about last night. It's I hate how unhuman

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 2>these humans have to be sometimes and that goes for

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 2>every single one of us, everybody, but specifically, like he's

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 2>still a person. Yeah, and I hate that he had

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>to pretend like it's showtime, you know, like it's like

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 2>close the door back up, we had some shita.

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.479
<v Speaker 1>You know you're about to walk downstairs and you're willing

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to shove them. Then, I'm just saying, what else is

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 1>going that? It's like, you know you're about to open

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the door, you know what is going to be in

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>front of you when the door's open. It just was

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 1>all very bizarre, Like you're not just getting in a

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 1>fight right before.

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, It's like it's like hold the door

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 2>for ten seconds, right, and who's everywhere doors.

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 3>That you'll are laterally fighting right there. I don't know.

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 3>It's all just yeah, it doesn't I don't know. It

0:40:58.040 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 3>doesn't sit well with me.

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I will just say this though, if it was again reverse,

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 2>if it was a man doing that, oh it would

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:07.800
<v Speaker 2>be a different story.

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Unfortunately it shouldn't be.

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Having said that, we don't know what he did to

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>her too. Again, yeah, I'm not saying that.

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 5>I'm not even assuming he didn't put you know, none

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 5>of that. And I feel bad for him. Is not

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 5>that I feel bad for him that he got shoved

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 5>in the face. I hate that he can't feel what

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.440
<v Speaker 5>he needed to feel in that moment and had to

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 5>be a politician.

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, he could be covering something up for himself too,

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 3>And that's but right, That's what.

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, like, yeah, that they can't just be in

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 2>that honest moment for a minute while they sorted out. Yeah,

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 2>if you were in a place where you have to

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 2>be shoving your husband and listen, I have been in

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 2>that place, and what I had to have massive talks

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 2>with Amy because you know, I'd be like, well he

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 2>can say that, you know I but he was in

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 2>my face. She's like this is protection. So she's like, yes,

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:57.799
<v Speaker 2>never put your hands on someone and you were also

0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to protect yourself to get out of a situation

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 2>like it's over them that person then to say well

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 2>you touch me, well yeah, because you were blocking me

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 2>in and I felt unsafe and had to fight back.

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 2>You know. So I don't think anybody's innocent or like,

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't I'm not even taking that stance because who

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 2>knows what happened for the door open exactly. I just

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 2>hate that anyone has to pretend something didn't happen. Yeah, yeah,

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 2>even for ten seconds. Yeah, it made me, I mean

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>made me sad to see. Yeah, like just for the

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>whole and that just shows you too. You never know

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 2>what's behind the plane door. Yeah, you know people's lives

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 2>because any other time they wouldn't have caught that. You

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>would have just seen them like smile and wid down,

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 2>not knowing what happened two seconds prior.

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Yep, and that happens all the time.

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 2>A little more empathy for people, that's right. Mormon wives.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Jesse and Demi are following each other again after on

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.879
<v Speaker 2>screen feud. I haven't finished the show, so I don't

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 2>even know about the feud yet, but I am watching.

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 2>I am following. It's a total spoiler alert. These are

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 2>the ones that look identical to me.

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 3>So I finally, how do you figure out? O?

0:42:59.680 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 2>My god?

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Last season, the same human the whole time.

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Finally, this season I could figure it out because they're

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot more involved this season. I feel like they

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 1>have bigger like parts this season, and so I could tell.

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm still in the Halloween party. It's taking me a

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 2>while to finish.

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 3>I loved it.

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I left the ship in season one. I couldn't.

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It was very different this season, like Whitney's a completely

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>different person.

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Does Whitney Does Whitney feel I enjoyed our time with Whitney?

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Does Whitney feel on this season like she did in

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 2>person for us when we were with her, because we

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 2>all she's just real quiet this season.

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>She's really just kind of keeping to herself, knowing her

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 1>place in a sense because she's not necessarily back in yet,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, stuff like that. So she just really she

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>seems more peaceful. She seems more at peace. She seems

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>happier to me. But I'm watching a show, so who knows.

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm struggling with how to shift my perspective on someone,

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'd really appreciate your insight. One of my close

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>friends is married to a guy who, in the beginning

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 2>of the relationship honestly rubbed me the wrong way. He

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 2>was inconsiderate, flaky, and just didn't seem invested in her,

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>showing up, blake, canceling plans, sometimes being outright rude to

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 2>both her and her friends. I watched her cry over

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 2>him more than once, and it was so hard to

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.879
<v Speaker 2>understand what she saw on him back then. Those early

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 2>memories left a lasting impression on me. Now years later,

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>he's changed, and I'll give him credit. He's present, supportive

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 2>and seems to truly love and respect her. They're married

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 2>and from the outside, the relationship looks stable and happy.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 2>I know people grow, and I know relationships can evolve,

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>but I'm finding it hard to shake those early feelings.

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Even though we're polite when we're around each other, I

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.320
<v Speaker 2>think he can still feel that I haven't fully warmed

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 2>up to him, given the person he is now. Should

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I try harder to accept that growth and move forward.

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Is it fair or even healthy to hold onto or

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 2>to hold onto who someone used to be, especially when

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 2>they've clearly changed for the better. I'm going to shoot

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>this to you because I feel like you've had this

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.280
<v Speaker 2>with certain different husbands.

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I think my advice would be to let it go, honestly,

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 1>because if they've changed, and you may not know for

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:18.439
<v Speaker 1>sure that they've changed, that's my thing. Let's just say

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you're hesitant and you think, okay, from the outside looking in,

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>it looks like you've changed.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've changed.

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>But if they're going to be married, if she's going

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>to choose to be okay with the man that he is,

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 1>then I don't think you really have a choice but

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:30.360
<v Speaker 1>to just let it go.

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 3>You can have these you know.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I think you can be have these hesitations

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and just be aware of it if

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 1>things are to happen, you know. But I think if

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>she's letting it go, you let it go, enjoy it,

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>enjoy that he's changed, and have fun with them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And if he shows you who he is again, yeah,

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 2>like you've had experience with then.

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<v Speaker 1>If they show again like I don't, I may not

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<v Speaker 1>forget those things, but I'm not going to hold it

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>against them. And now if it shows up again, then

0:45:58.160 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, Okay, this is a pattern that's showing

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>back up again, and I would do things differently when

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it comes to when people are doing things that they

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, to the friends, and how you speak up

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>about that and how you don't. But I think you

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<v Speaker 1>can warm up to that person, accept them unless they

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>show you differently.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I also was just thinking, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that I super loved who I was at the

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.800
<v Speaker 2>beginning of my marriage. Sure, you know, like now I didn't.

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like whatever. I just like to think back

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>to you only know what you know. I was always kind,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was a little attachment. I was a little

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, like if somebody wanted to come in and

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 2>judge that that was a lot. I mean, I had

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:39.839
<v Speaker 2>every right to be. It's not I'm not even hard

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<v Speaker 2>of myself. I just go like, man, if somebody was

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 2>holding something I said ten years ago against me, that sucks.

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.879
<v Speaker 2>And people do change. And I always and I've said

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<v Speaker 2>this specifically, well I've said it to both of you before,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, only two people know what goes on in

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 2>a marriage. Even if we know everything we can know,

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 2>as open as we all are with each other, and

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:00.399
<v Speaker 2>when we brought each other in for like prayer or whatever,

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 2>there's still only those two people know. So maybe at

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the beginning he was going, you know, you might have

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 2>more things that he was Yeah, things that needed to

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.800
<v Speaker 2>melt away or work through or whatever. We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, definitely note it, but we gotta we gonna

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.800
<v Speaker 2>move on. Yeah, I agree. I mean I tried to

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 2>do that a lot with Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's what I was thinking. Yeah, like I know,

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>like there were times you thought that he changed, or

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>we thought that he changed, We hoped.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, but I was just trying to think of like,

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, I even when you even when you read that,

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought, she needs to let that go I wouldn't

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 2>be super proud of who I was. And then I

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 2>instantly put myself and was like, well, I've done that

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.320
<v Speaker 2>with Mike before, where I haven't fully forgiven him at times,

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, even when we had him on here, I

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:51.320
<v Speaker 2>was not super interested.

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it sounds like this person is obviously grown

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot more and changed a lot more than a

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Mike situation. But there were moments in those it's like,

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't forget the things Mike did, but

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if you're moving on, that's we're going to

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 1>be friends. Then I got to move on to and

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we got to have fun together and we got to

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>be friends.

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 2>It's when the person continues when you can come back

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 2>as a friend and go, Okay, I don't I'm not

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna be aro on this. Yeah, yeah that is that

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 2>is then in your right to absolutely fel that. And

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<v Speaker 2>then yeah, and I also love how protective she is.

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I do too.

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I do like that it comes from a protection place,

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>which I do in a loyalty place, Yeah, I do

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>love that.

0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 2>I like that a lot.

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I mean I would want that in a friend.

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want a friend who you know doesn't even

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>think twice about it, you know, and is like, oh,

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>who cares. They're different, you know, Like I would want

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that in a friend, to be a little hesitant, you know,

0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to be a little protective and care enough about me.

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Right then I go to like the woman who's married,

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, gosh, you know, she's running this like tight.

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Like my friend doesn't super love him. He had this

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 2>thing at the beginning, like that's just it and that's

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 2>a twice to be too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, well ladies,

0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I did it today. Girls.

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:00.840
<v Speaker 3>We just made a wanted plans.

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for you to go put these plans in action. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>bye bye bye