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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL. Dan Hans is here, Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: rebranded after one episode into a new version of People

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Speaker 1: were listen, people were concerned the hiatus. How long does

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Speaker 1: that's the big news right now. It's not ruggling to

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Speaker 1: And they've already clicked off. Actually, they're like, whoa, these

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Speaker 1: a lot, Shookie. Shookie's a rising star, rising talent here

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Speaker 1: we gotta dogs. I love the Russell Wilson smooth brother act.

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Speaker 1: head coach, and it seemed like a nice fit. But

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers decided to stay home, so Denver pivoted. Here's

429
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Speaker 1: the details. Green Bay has agreed with the thirty eight

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Speaker 1: year old Rogers on a four year extension worth two

431
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Speaker 1: hundred million, including a hundred and fifty three million and

432
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Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Rap Sheet reported Tuesday the deal makes Rodgers

433
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Speaker 1: the highest paid player in NFL history on an annual basis,

434
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Speaker 1: while also reducing his salary cap number for two thousand two.

435
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Speaker 1: So the long saga that's built up forever, Uh, it

436
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: feels like forever, but it's really been about a year

437
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: and a half comes to some type of clothes. Aaron Rodgers,

438
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: by the way, came out after the Russell Wilson story

439
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: blew up. He got on Twitter and said, hey, hey, hey,

440
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Speaker 1: just so you know the specifics of the contract monetary wise, Uh,

441
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: not accurate, but I will say I'm happy to be

442
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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, to which I say, Aaron Rodgers, No,

443
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Speaker 1: just I don't care, alright, Ricky on fire, Um, there's

444
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: a lot more going on there. You actually thought that

445
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 1: I wanted I didn't kill my wife? Well, because you

446
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: say that all the time. You always say that, So

447
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: I thought it would be a nice tie in, but

448
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: that I don't care, right, But I thought I made

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Speaker 1: it clear on our instant messenge what I wanted just

450
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Speaker 1: that one line. Yeah, okay, so you kind of okay,

451
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: I think she added to the ship well, she added

452
00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: to the overall show I didn't kill my wife. Anyway,

453
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: let's get back on track. Ricky, by the way, is

454
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: not going to be with us next week. Ricky is

455
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: going to be in Camcoon during free agent Well, that

456
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: news passed like a buzz saw through the studio prior

457
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: to our kickoff here. This is like the fourth year

458
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: in a row she's been on a tropical island during

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00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: the off seasons, most busy week. You can't talk to

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Speaker 1: me like that. It's International Woman's Day today. I'm happy

461
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: for you. I'm extremely It's fine. You don't appreciate what

462
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: alright that Erica? When you know I was trying to

463
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Speaker 1: talk to her. I was kidding on the square a

464
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Speaker 1: little bit. It's like, Erica, we want you for free

465
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Speaker 1: agency week. We want you in the studio. It's important.

466
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: And she's like, no, you don't care who's behind the

467
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: glass anyway. It's like, what does that mean? You're our producer, Ricky.

468
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: We love Grave Digger and stabled In and the whole gang,

469
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Speaker 1: but you're a producer. That's true. Yeah, No, I will

470
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Speaker 1: send you guys a lot of ideas from from the beach.

471
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: By the way, Gregg's disgusted about this, but that was

472
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Speaker 1: like three weeks ago. You had a conversation and she

473
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Speaker 1: mentioned it to you and you said, don't go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then what you do very defiant. I haven't gone yet,

475
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: but it's the only time that we can go, because

476
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Speaker 1: only has We don't want to hear it. This week

477
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Those specifics for our show don't matter. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get my nails one one. If she proposes that,

479
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Maybe I thought you

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Speaker 1: were going to be doing maybe m If here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: you better come back with the ring exactly. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't come back with if you come back with

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Speaker 1: the ring, you're absolved off. Yeah. If nobody's wearing a ring,

484
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Speaker 1: it's going to be a major issue behind the scenes

485
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Speaker 1: for the and and the upshot will be will be upset,

486
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Speaker 1: She'll be upset, and she'll go to Cancun again next year.

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Speaker 1: At this time, I mean, this is it has to

488
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Speaker 1: be half a decade in a row. Well, I was

489
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Speaker 1: going to try to do Cobo to see if I

490
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Speaker 1: could get any stories. You know what breaks we are

491
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Speaker 1: We are beyond that topic. Anyway. He is back Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Four years with the Packers. All's well, that ends well.

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Speaker 1: He did play the game ultimately in a savvy manner,

494
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Speaker 1: even if he turned most of the public against him

495
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Speaker 1: over the past. Well I also called it at one

496
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Speaker 1: point a categorical uh lie ar miss truth that he

497
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Speaker 1: was seeking to become the highest paid quarterback. I'm not

498
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Speaker 1: going to listen or believe anything anyone says ever again

499
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: at this point in this sport, because that was absolute nonsense.

500
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: This worked for him the same way things worked out

501
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Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson. Be upset, be hyper annoying, and will

502
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: holl will you know, will tag along with your melodrama

503
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: for a year plus until this thing caps essentially in

504
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Speaker 1: Aaron rodgers favor and the other dominant of falls that

505
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams now sticks around as well. On the tag.

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Speaker 1: The tweet to me speaks to what was annoying about

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Speaker 1: this whole process that Aaron Rodgers just sent out. He said,

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Speaker 1: reports about me signing a contract veron accurate. Actually no

509
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Speaker 1: one reported that you signed the contracts said a contract

510
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Speaker 1: was agreed to. So you're you're throwing in a falsity

511
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, uh, and you've done it, as are the

512
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: supposed terms of the contact I quote signed. I'm very excited. Uh,

513
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: where where do you think those terms are coming from.

514
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: Where do you think, uh, an agent is putting out

515
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: like those terms to advertise what a great deal that

516
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: he got. You think it's the team. You think the

517
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: team wants to advertise how much money they're paying. You

518
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: know they don't. They're frankly the quarterback market and paying

519
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: you more than any Frankly, they're embarrassed. They they're gonna

520
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: have to answer to a lot of packers shareholders. Uh,

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00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: you know who got that free, free sweet piece of paper?

522
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: Uh and going to see that. Ultimately, he probably was

523
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: never going anywhere, And they used the Broncos well for

524
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: to maximize every bit of leverage this offseason. And that's fine.

525
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: That's all players do that, all agents do that. Some

526
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: media members participated a little more actively than others and

527
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Speaker 1: really making the Broncos believable over the last week. But

528
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 1: if you kind of noticed, the big names really didn't.

529
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: And I think that was telling you is it isn't

530
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: there any concern that you know it talked about him

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Speaker 1: going away and meditating and thinking for hours on end

532
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Speaker 1: about the fact that maybe I'll just retire, Like we've

533
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: talked over and over about if your head is halfware

534
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: half in the space of I might walk about that,

535
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: but I think after this last year it was so

536
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Speaker 1: clear he was all in, like it was all I

537
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: thought it was all bogus this whole time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: then I'm going off with what Ian was tweeting, saying

539
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: that there was serious consideration about all things on the

540
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Speaker 1: table by a one of them. I might leave the

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Speaker 1: team that I'm now sticking around. Was saying how much

542
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: I love Green Bay and all the sudden Ultimately, what

543
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: had to come down to money. They paid me fifty

544
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: million a year. Whenever it comes down to so, I

545
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: am back until I'm forty two years old, unless I

546
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Speaker 1: went another m v P and they annoy me, and

547
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: then I'll cause Samorea rukis in about a year or so.

548
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: Don't rule it out. This is the person we're dealing

549
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: with at this point. The one thing, the only thing

550
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: you could say about Rogers. Yes, he got everything he

551
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: wanted in the end, He's still on a loaded team,

552
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: He's better paid than anyone else in the history of

553
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: the sport. But I do think he did take a

554
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: hit in the public opinion over a lot of his

555
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: and some of it much Well. Listen, there are a

556
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: lot of people. Mark and I are among those people

557
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: that had a lot of issues with Rogers before the

558
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: fake vaccine stuff went down, just the way his general

559
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: vibe and how he had kind of changed in some

560
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: ways in terms of how he how he was front

561
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: facing with the public, and it wasn't always flattering. It's all.

562
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Speaker 1: None of it matters ultimately, And I don't care, as

563
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Timmy Lee Jones said, because he's under contract. I don't

564
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: care about the money he's sticking there. Davante Adams is tagged,

565
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: and this is still a Super Bowl contender, but a

566
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Speaker 1: team that chokes in January, and that's something else for

567
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: another conversation. And now they can operate this offseason with

568
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: some clarity. We don't know what the salary cap number

569
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Speaker 1: is going to be. It's go going to be less

570
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Speaker 1: than the forty six million he was scheduled for, presumably

571
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: a lot less and they're gonna franchise tag. They did

572
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: franchise tag Davante Adams, and so you're putting that on

573
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Speaker 1: that contract negotiation, and think's gonna be very difficult, near

574
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Speaker 1: impossible to figure out over the next uh four or

575
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 1: five months. He could hold out, I wouldn't be surprised

576
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: if we don't see him until about the what the

577
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Speaker 1: third week of training camp something like that, just because

578
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Speaker 1: that's how things go, is it? Arias Smith, Preston Smith,

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Speaker 1: Jayra Alexander might get a contract extension. Those those the

580
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: Smith brothers could get cut. Like a lot's going to

581
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: be happening with Green Bay in the next Well that said,

582
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: if we want to say that shareholders with their piece

583
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: of paper on the wall are going to be slightly

584
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: miffed that the front office pulled the trigger on this.

585
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Now that was a joke. I mean, I mean the

586
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: other option is, now you're sitting there with Jordan's love,

587
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: you could baby trade Jordan Love away to someone at

588
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: this point too. Yeah, at the dollar Ricky wanted to

589
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Speaker 1: come in with a point. Should we let her come in?

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00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: It's National Woman's Day, so I mean, you know, international

591
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: of all countries. Okay, So now I remember why I

592
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: included that I didn't kill my wife, not only because

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00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: you say it all the time pre show, which you

594
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: know screamed it at the holiday party. Yeah you're screaming

595
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: a lot actually, But then I was thinking because when

596
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: we were talking about that, Aaron Rodgers tweeted this because

597
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: I think he was really pissed that the Russell Wilson

598
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: News had taken over every channel. So I think in

599
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: that little minute where he's like, I didn't kill my

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Speaker 1: wife and he's like, I don't care, I was putting

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Speaker 1: that bit together number one to the tie in number

602
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: two because it's like, Aaron Rodgers, no one cares that

603
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: you tweeted that. So I just wanted to defend myself.

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00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: It's like an unsolved Mysteries update right there. Very you know,

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00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. It's like a comedian explaining

606
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: a joke. He never said. That's exactly right. Greg. I'm

607
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: so glad you're a comedian and know exactly what's going

608
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: on all the time. Actually, keep going. I'm enjoying that.

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00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: Uh So there you go, Rogers, And yes, Jordan's love

610
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: is a former first round picking. People are like I

611
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: saw on Twitter some a couple of things that I

612
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: didn't like on Twitter. One, Oh, Aaron Rodgers. He only

613
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: cares about money. Now they won't be able to build

614
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: a shut up. And this is a business. He got paid,

615
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: he deserves that. He's one of the top five quarterbacks

616
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: ever and he's off back to back m v ps.

617
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: They'll make it work. Have you noticed a salary cap?

618
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: It's way up this year. To people say, oh, the Packers,

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00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: they blew it on Jordan's love. Yeah, I guess so

620
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: they did. They took a first round pick at quarterback

621
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and then now it looks

622
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: like he's never gonna play a meaningful snap for them.

623
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: But you know what if the reason it didn't work

624
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: out is because Aaron Rodgers one two straight MVPs. Hey,

625
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: you live with it, you move on. I totally agree

626
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: with you and Brian Gooda Kunst has made incredible draft picks.

627
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Like, go through the rest of that

628
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: first round. There's a lot of wasted picks. None of

629
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: them got Aaron Rodgers has fired up as Jordan loved

630
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: to go win a couple of m vps. And if

631
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: they can trade him, maybe you recoupa a third round pick.

632
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: I like, I like the idea that the love pick

633
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: and there's actually a lot of logic to it made

634
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Rogers better. Yeah, I think like Goody is a master.

635
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: He's like a master of psychological warfare. It changed, I

636
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: mean they still lost, you know, two straight January playoff games.

637
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone like wants to get on them. Oh,

638
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: they could have taken this or that, okay, in the

639
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: and they of course choose the best players. This is

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Speaker 1: just a sample. Here are the rest of the first

641
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: round after Jordan's Love. The other first round picks that

642
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: were taken behind Jordan's Love Jordan Brooks, Patrick Queen, Isaiah Wilson,

643
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Speaker 1: Noah Ig Monogamy, Jeff Gladney, and Clyde Edwards Hilaire. I'm

644
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: just saying, it's like, come on, I mean, it gave

645
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: us one of the more annoying dramas of our entire lifetime.

646
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean, among these, two of those guys aren't even

647
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: in the league anymore, which is that's hard to do

648
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: for a first round pick. Um all right, in other news,

649
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: So those are the two huge stories to the biggest

650
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: stories will get all year, happening in the same morning.

651
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: So there you go, big story yesterday, then now it

652
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: feels like it happened about ten years ago. Falcon's wide

653
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: receiver Calvin Ridley has been suspended for at least season

654
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: after gambling on games during the season. The NFL released

655
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: a statement on Monday announcing the suspension. Saying that the

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00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: receiver gambled on games over a five days stretch in

657
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: November when he was on the non football injury list

658
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: to address his mental health. Ridley, as you may remember,

659
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: stepped away from the NFL in late October, saying he

660
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: needed to get his personal life in order. H Ridley

661
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: tweeted on Monday that he bets total and quote, I

662
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: don't have a gambling problem. And uh, you know, this

663
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: is a thorny issue for the league because on one hand, yes,

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00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: people that are going hard and saying Calvin Rutley is

665
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: getting screwed here and it shouldn't be this harsher penalty.

666
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: I can't get behind that because at the end of

667
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: the day, the game and the integrity of the game.

668
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: I'll put air quotes on it if you want. That's

669
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: that's tanema. That's so important to the league. And so yes,

670
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: if a player is betting on the NFL, you have

671
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: to come down hard on the guy. But there is

672
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: this other part of it that gambling. The NFL is

673
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: now opened up. It's gates to gambling and now it's

674
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: all around the league, and it's fair to wonder if

675
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: there could be more of this because now sports betting

676
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: is no longer separated by a wall and legal. What

677
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: happens next? It's legal, It was illegal in the past,

678
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: and now it's legal, so that that's pretty different. And yet,

679
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: my my response to everyone pointing out the NFL hypocrisy

680
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: which exists, was Okay, so what what's your solution, Like,

681
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: what would you do not suspend them? And so I

682
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: guess they're saying, like, have less of a suspension. But

683
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: every time in the history of the NFL a player

684
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: has been caught gambling out a game, they've suspended them

685
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: for a season, going back sixty years. One of the biggest,

686
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: one of the biggest stories in NFL history, and it's

687
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: one that I always think, like, wow, that story would

688
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: be crazy now is when Paul Horning and Alex Carris

689
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: got suspended for a year. That was the m v

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Speaker 1: P of the league. Paul Horning in an All Pro

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00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. So it would be the equivalent of you know,

692
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Donald getting suspended for a league

693
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Speaker 1: a year for gambling. They got suspended. Uh, some guy

694
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: you never heard of, Joshaw got suspended a couple of

695
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: years ago. Remember that, It's like, it's what do they got.

696
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: What's the app I guess what's the alternative. You can

697
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: kill them for getting into business with gambling, period, but

698
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: that's been going on now for a season and that's

699
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: not going away. Yeah, they strike me as two separate things, because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can critique the NFL's um lust for money and

701
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: their lust to get into bed with gambling houses left

702
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: and right and do what they're doing with fantasy football

703
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: and all adults. Secondly, to your point back in nineteen

704
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: six is when Horning and Carriss were suspended. It has

705
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: been crystal clear as day two, players, coaches, and league

706
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: employees that you don't gamble on football. It's like there's

707
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: no wiggle room there in the league. It's plastered on

708
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: the walls, like you can be taking symposiums. They're teaching

709
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: players like I don't care if you ever did this

710
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: in the past, you don't do it here. It's like

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00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: you have a special position inside the NFL. You don't

712
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: do it here. And so I think, Greg, you nailed it.

713
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: Like what is is there a middle ground where like

714
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: we allow players to bet on this or that not

715
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: because then it creates all sort of visual like they're

716
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: already tweeting out plays of him, Calvin Ridley, where it

717
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: looks like he's running in reverse and doing all this

718
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: stuff to you know, I agree that it's stupid, but

719
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: it's like, why even put that out there as a possibility.

720
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm wondering if the league's plan internally is

721
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: make an example of Ridley and then step up our

722
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: communications with the players on why this will never fly

723
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: and can never fly. But other than that, there's not

724
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: much of the NFL. And they caught him, Like it's

725
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: not like he's the first player to ever gamble on sports,

726
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: and there haven't been many that have been caught. But

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00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: they caught him, you know, because he did it through

728
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: a league partner who reportedly reported it too, you know,

729
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: an agency within the league that that investigated and and

730
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: that was it. So it shows that you can't get caught.

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00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: I do think it opens up you can get caught.

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00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: It opens up some questions for people that work within

733
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: that close to the league, like players can't bet, right

734
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: and league employees can't bet, but journalists can bet, and

735
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: journalists have a ton of information. And I think it's

736
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of a Pandora's box that like partners

737
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: of the NFL every other media company are freely allowed

738
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: to bet, and they have a ton of information. And

739
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: then there's a lot of other inciliary people who are

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00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: close to those companies or that work with NFL teams

741
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: and also have information. I can think of a lot

742
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: of different examples of way that ways that you could profit.

743
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: And I do think that's something worth thinking about, because

744
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: in the in the UK and places where they've embraced

745
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: gambling at stadiums wholeheartedly, they've actually amped up regulations after

746
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: having a lot of problems in the last decade or so,

747
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: and I think that you don't want to go down

748
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: that road. I think the other place that it looks

749
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: really off putting to people, and I agree with this,

750
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: is that we're still in a really weird place with

751
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: issues like domestic violence where a player gets four or

752
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: six games and then this was an automatic strict one

753
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: year in definite band more than a year potentially. I

754
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: think that looks weird to people because it's like, is

755
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: what is what he did? Worse than that? No, but

756
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: the NFL has been in a muddled place with their

757
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: punishments and handing down authoritative punishments for years on that front.

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00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what the bets were? Yeah,

759
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: I mean that was the thing. He definitely probably got

760
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: bad bets. Yeah, he definitely confirmed that he wasn't like

761
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: a gambling at. He placed bets involving three, five and

762
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: eight games greg and eight game parlay. That is that

763
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: is out of this world, isn't it? Within the industry.

764
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: I mean that there are certain type spice racks one

765
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: of them, who are all about parlays and you do eight,

766
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't be doing the way he did it,

767
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: which is just like put down three bat. These tapes

768
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: of people are doing, like, you know, a hundred different

769
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: parlays hoping to get a couple of hits, and they

770
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: do different variations on it. But yeah, it probably didn't

771
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. And then I saw some

772
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: people on Twitter with the old Pete Rose defense, Well

773
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: he never bet against the Falcons. I just can't do it.

774
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: You can't do it. It's not a it's a it's

775
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: a murky issue, and it's getting more complicated seemingly by

776
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: the month with the NFL. But I do think it's

777
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: interesting though, like you can be an insider and you

778
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: can be anything, and you can bet I sent is

779
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: sort of turning green with jealousy that in any other

780
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, media house City worked for, he could be

781
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: doing this. So we can't even step inside of sports

782
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: book as NFL employees during the NFL like for instance,

783
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: that we just had the comment we'll talk to Chook

784
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: about it soon about three hours. All the times were

785
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: really fast, right, and we found out during the combine

786
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: that and you you probably could have found this out

787
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: in a totally legal, normal way previously if you if

788
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: you had your ears and if they had changed the

789
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: turf there and so was a fast track. It was

790
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: a different track. Like imagine like if you had that information,

791
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: you could have changed, you know, changed your life, and

792
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: I did. I think there is some things to that

793
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: that's going on with this gambling stuff that is problematic.

794
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's move up. We're gonna speed up here.

795
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: We got chooky coming up. As we said, there's a

796
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: report out there. ESPN's David Newton reported that the Panthers

797
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: would quote can Senter trading Christian McCaffrey for a first

798
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: round pick and another player without a big salary cap number. Uh.

799
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: This this would be in contrast to Carolina's vision of

800
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: McCaffrey last offseason when they gave the star running back

801
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: a contract extension. But then McCaffrey went and missed the

802
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: past two years more or less twenty three games over

803
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: two seasons with a variety of injuries. Uh. It basically

804
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: shattered Carolina's offense. And yet, boys, I do think, and

805
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: I know everybody says market's bad business to to dedicate

806
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot of money to the running back position and

807
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: all that, if the deal was right and and Carolina

808
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: was more in a place of I want to get

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00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: out from under this contract, and you could kind of

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00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: work them down a little bit in terms of what

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00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: they're asking prices. I think McCaffrey at twenty six years

812
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: old could be a huge guy that you could bring

813
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: on a bounce back year. There's risk obviously on the

814
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: contract and the injuries, but this dude is super talented

815
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: and it can help transform it off. He is super

816
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: talented when he's on the field. He's missed twenty three

817
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: games over the past two seasons. He cost a ton

818
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: of money. So for me, it's not like, Hey, this

819
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: is our version of getting Matthew Stafford. I think if

820
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: you're the Panthers you. If you're Matt Rule, you inherited

821
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: some of this and they are a team and they

822
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: keep failing at this quest that are heat seeking a

823
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. They have been mentioned in the Deshaun Watson

824
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: scenario as well. It's like their idea of freeing up

825
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: money makes sense for what might be a bigger move

826
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I I would not. I would not

827
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: really if I were a fan of a team, hope

828
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: that they would chase after Christian McCaffrey. I saw that

829
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: you were into that, Dan, I'm not as into it

830
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: as you are. I think you could draft a running

831
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: back and find I know everyone because I understand I'm

832
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: not saying this is you, Mark, but the everyone's kind

833
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: of now bought into this idea that running back doesn't

834
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of value and all that. But I

835
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: think that McCaffrey is one of those exceptions that if

836
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: you get him healthy, he could transform in offense. I

837
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: think he is a Hall of Fame talent um as

838
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: you've seen with him having a two thousand, one thousand,

839
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: one thousand season. He's still young. There is risk involve

840
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't I wouldn't look past it if the

841
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: guy was floated, and it's like his durability is as

842
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: big of a red flag as Sequon Barkley is waving

843
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: out there. Well, yeah, he's I mean, I would definitely

844
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: rather have Christian McCaffrey. I'd rather give up a two,

845
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: let's say, for McCaffrey than anything for sake Quan. But

846
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: he's also the example of why you don't give the

847
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: money to running backs because he's played ten games in

848
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: the last two years. I mean, it's totally hamstrung their team.

849
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: Right If you if your people think or you decide

850
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: that his body is breaking down, obviously run from it.

851
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: Or if you see it's more have been a little

852
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: bit of bad luck that he's running two back to

853
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: back years, then maybe you're talking like a Super Bowl

854
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: competender where this is a tipping point move and he

855
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: comes in and lights up the offer they're putting it

856
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: out there. I mean this, just the fact this report exists,

857
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: to me was very telling and interesting that they aren't

858
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: looking to unload him, just like the Seahawks aren't looking

859
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: to unload Russell Wilson, but they would consider if they

860
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: got a first and another player. I don't think you're

861
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: getting a first and another player for Christian McCaffrey. But

862
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: could you get could you get a two? Could you

863
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: get a two and another player? Could you get a

864
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: late first? Maybe like a future late first. Maybe I

865
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: could see that happening, And it just indicates that they

866
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: are open to trading Christian McCaffrey and that it very

867
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: well could could happen. By the way, I just googled

868
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: Christian McAffrey looking for the original report. Do you know

869
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: what the first headline that came up for Kristin McCaffrey was,

870
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Olivia Coppo can't wait for Christin McCaffrey reunion as trade

871
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: rumors swirl, I was not aware that he is dating

872
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: a swimsuit uh Sports Illustrated Swimsuit cover star who's car right,

873
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: who's currently overseas for Paris Fashion Week, and she can't

874
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: wait to get back. Um and and she says her

875
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: guy is hot. Yeah, I mean she he did well,

876
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: He's done very well. She's got to spend a lot

877
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: of time with him because he's not on the field

878
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: very often. Whatever the list is, whatever category she falls into.

879
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: I thought I had never felt older than when I

880
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: bruised my ribs sledding up at Big Bear a couple

881
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. But actually that last little jack that

882
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: I had about Olivia copy that made me alright. In

883
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: other news, the Dallas Cowboys listen, the salary caps quite

884
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: large and rod Ton these days, but they the Cowboys

885
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: are proof that you still can run into issues at

886
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: the Cap, and they're working hard to try to get

887
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: under the captain, preparing themselves for a new league here.

888
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: So the news that came out over the weekend, I believe,

889
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: was that the team is ready to part ways with

890
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper actively seeking out a trade partner. UH so

891
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: far according to reports, that market's not so hot, by

892
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: the way, So I don't know what that says about

893
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: a Mark Cooper or more about his price tag, which

894
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I believe is north the twenty million dollars um, so

895
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: they might end up releasing Cooper. They've also restructured UH

896
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: contracts with put it on drumroll please, I wrote it

897
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: down somewhere. I believe it is Dak, Dak Prescott, Zack Martin.

898
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: Thank you Dak Prescott and Zach Martin UH to get

899
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: under the cap. And they also and we're gonna get

900
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: to all the players that are tagged, but Dalton Schultz

901
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: there tight end also got tagged. So the Cowboys doing

902
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: a lot of work restructuring with stars. I bet they

903
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: wish they had some flexibility with a segel Elliott that's

904
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: neither here nor right. He's part of the reason they're

905
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: in this mess. But I'm surprised they're going to give

906
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: up on Cooper. Cooper is essentially an ex Cowboy at

907
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: this point. Is this no matter if he's traded or cut.

908
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised that a team wouldn't give up

909
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick or something to take on that contract,

910
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: which doesn't seem that crazy. It's interesting two teams have

911
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: soured on him, but the fact that they franchise tag

912
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz was really interesting. That they're picking Schultz, trying

913
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: to bring Gallop back get rid of Cooper. And then

914
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: they asked to Marcus Lawrence to take a pay cup,

915
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: which is usually a sign that they're ready to cut you,

916
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: and he quote politely declined, which I think was the

917
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: way to do and put you politely. He's amazing what

918
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of going on. I know he's set to

919
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: earn nineteen million dollars, but like he is the best

920
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: player on the Cowboys over the last five years on

921
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: balance along with Dak Prescott, and was still playing at

922
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: a really high level. So he should decline because when

923
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 1: you get caught at this time of year, you're doing

924
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: Lawrence or Cooper a favorite. Cooper is going to do

925
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: better as a free agent that he would that he

926
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: had with the Cowboys. They've talked about Tyrone Smith, Lyle Collins,

927
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin his other guys who could take haircuts. Uh

928
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: to use a Danis um right that is I mean,

929
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: it's like they're trying to open up that cap money.

930
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: And I just wonder with the Marie Cooper because Jerry

931
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Jones had, you know, some ill ward words for him

932
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: during and after the season. Maybe you know, this is

933
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: the second team that soured on him and will it tomorrow.

934
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Going on to that he that he sees himself as

935
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: a true number one. He came across pretty well. I

936
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: thought on hard knocks there are whispers that the Lions

937
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: um are gonna go hard after wide receiver at in

938
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: free agency. So that's like, I don't like it at all,

939
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: but just keep to Marcus Lawrence and let someone else

940
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: pay Randy Gregory. If That's what it comes down to.

941
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: They're in sneaky cap hell. That's what it seems like.

942
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: I got, you know, Kyle Brandt, who who was amazing

943
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football. He was sick of all the

944
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: all the attention kind of that we all shower on

945
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys week after week. But I gotta say they

946
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: are the most interesting team just in terms of the

947
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: players that are available in the moves they have to

948
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: make this offseason. No other team has three guys that

949
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: were in my top thirty and then now two more

950
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: guys that they might be cutting that could be in

951
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: my top fifteen. It says they have more going on

952
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: right now, I believe than any team in the NFL.

953
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: You may recall Greg last spring, I had an impassioned

954
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: monologue about being burnt out on the Cowboys, and we've

955
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: all been there. We've all been there, and it's Kyle's

956
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: turn to be burned out. But at least this year,

957
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are coming off being relevant, even if the

958
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: playoffs went off an embarrassing fashion for the erstwhile America's team, Mark, Yeah,

959
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't consider them America's team, although they

960
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: represent a lot of things that America seems to want

961
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: to be represented by At the moment, I had a

962
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: whole segment I was ready for an NFL now about

963
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys blown up. Well that's that's smart. Greg. You

964
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: go to the network and say I want to talk Cowboys,

965
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: They'll roll out the carpet for you to say whatever

966
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: you feel. Um In other news, the Patriots, I don't

967
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: you know this one has got my my radar paying

968
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, Greg that the Patriots have one of

969
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: the best young cornerbacks in the league and J C.

970
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: Jack and Jackson a guy smack in the middle of

971
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: his prime, and they don't feel like this seem like

972
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: they want to do business with him. They don't hit

973
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: him with a franchise tag, it doesn't seem like there's

974
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: any real conversations between player and team. So it looks

975
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: like he's gonna hit the open market. Someone's gonna pay

976
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: him a ton of money. And I'll say this is

977
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: as a fan of a team that's gotten burned by

978
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: free agent deals for cornerbacks in the past, I'm always

979
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: wary of them. Tremaine Johnson comes to mind. Durell Reeva's

980
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: Part two comes to mind, but at the same time.

981
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: Maybe there's something to be said for Belichick losing a

982
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: little bit of the touch a little bit here. Doesn't

983
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 1: this feel like somebody to keep in the building? Rosenthal, Well,

984
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: this is very consistent with his previous touch. You know,

985
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: he likes nothing more than saying goodbye to great players

986
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: that leave, and that annoys the Patriots fan base. Sante

987
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: Samuel very similar situation. Doesn't make sense to me because

988
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: this guy, Jason J. C. Jackson's improved every single season

989
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: of his career. He's he's had more interceptions since he

990
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: entered the league than any other player in the entire NFL.

991
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: He's up there in terms of historically the most interceptions

992
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: in the first four years and he's become a complete corner.

993
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: So it surprises me they didn't want to tag him,

994
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: and he is going to be number two on the

995
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: one oh one the post tag one oh one, and uh,

996
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 1: I guess he's gone. You would love this article Dan

997
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: in the Boston Sports Journal about other teams wondering what's

998
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: going on in New England that they barely have anyone

999
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: in their front office anymore, and that they barely have

1000
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: any coaches, like like right now, Joe Judge is working

1001
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, and Patricia's got to do the offensive light

1002
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: and Belichick might be calling plays. What is going on there?

1003
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: They've had one of the smaller coaching staffs for years

1004
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: and years and that was but it's like now it's

1005
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: a thing. Now I'll say it's hey here. And along

1006
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: those similar lines, Burt Brier wrote for Essay dot SI

1007
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: dot com and I did see this, Greg, I don't

1008
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: know if you saw this, that there was a general

1009
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: vibe um at the combine. Agents told him that they

1010
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: heard that the Patriots group might have been a bit

1011
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: disconnected with reality, was the quote. Uh. And the reason

1012
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: they were saying that is they were going and connected

1013
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: with agents and meaning like, listen, we're not gonna pay

1014
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: you the near the money you want your guy to have,

1015
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: but if the market creators come back to us, we'll

1016
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: give you a short, short term deal. And what's the

1017
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: disconnected from reality for the Patriots? According to some of

1018
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: these people that, yes, that logic was sound when you

1019
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: had Tom Brady and you're going to the super Bowl

1020
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: every year and it was Bell, Chick and Brady. But

1021
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: now the teams that can say those things are like

1022
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and like the Bills. It's not the Patriots anymore,

1023
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: because the Patriots aren't still anymore. Uh, And that was

1024
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: a thing being buzzed about at the combat. I mean,

1025
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: the only thing is that last offseason they went wild

1026
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: and there was money being spent. But you know, maybe

1027
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: if you've been in a certain mindset for twenty plus years,

1028
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: it's taking you a little bit of time to shake

1029
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: into what would be reality, and they're in a very

1030
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: different one. One of the reasons they can't spend is

1031
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: because they have like eleven million dollars guaranteed for John

1032
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: new Smith this year, who would love to not have

1033
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: on their roster. And yet it was like, you shouldn't

1034
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: have paid a ton of money for two tight ends

1035
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: in the same free right. But they got one right,

1036
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: and they got a lot right in in those free

1037
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: agent moves. They were aggressive. They have a new GM

1038
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Director of player Personnel, Matt grow Al grows Son, who

1039
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: has been in college scouting. That's a big jump to

1040
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: go from college to suddenly like you're kind of the GM.

1041
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: It's basically Belichick. They cut Kyle van Noy, they're probably

1042
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: not bringing back down to high tower. Devin mccordy might

1043
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: not be back like it is going to be a

1044
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: very different looking Reportedly interested in Robbie Anderson. I don't

1045
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: know if that guy's the solution to your wide receiver.

1046
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: Does he vide Patriot it way from what speed? I

1047
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: like that Matt rule. You know, you always say like

1048
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: Bill Purcel's Bill Bill check. They're my heroes. I like

1049
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: watch the Giants team. Hey, how about you really, you know,

1050
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: live out a real life like dream and trade with

1051
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: one of them, you know, just give us Robbie Anderson

1052
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: for nothing. He didn't he I think played seventeen games

1053
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: last year and didn't have a one hundred yard game,

1054
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: but he had all right. Uh, finally time for franchise

1055
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Speaker 1: tight end run here Dalton Schultz of the Cowboys, Mike

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00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: Jasecki and the Dolphins David and Joku of the Brownies

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00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: and tackle Cam Robinson of the Wars. Anything jump out

1064
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: to you their godwin. By the way, they were trying

1065
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: to hammer out a long term deal right up to

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00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: the deadline today, but it didn't happen. But he is

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00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. He'll be back with the Bucks. Whoever

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00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: the quarterback the tight end signing the tight end tags

1069
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: to me makes sense. It's there under eleven million in

1070
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. I liked them keeping him. If you're Mike

1071
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: McDaniel and you're gonna bring a Niners type offense, the

1072
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: tight end position matters. Mike Asiki has been a valuable

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00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: piece for them. Now. Joku, I don't totally. I think

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00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: they franchise they were gonna do, they were gonna keep.

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00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: I think they wanted to keep them, but they if

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00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: they do, and there's reports that they want to keep

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00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: him and Hooper, and that puts you about twenty five

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00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: millions into those two tight ends, which I think the

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00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: ultimate move is they probably cut Hooper after the June

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00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: one designation because otherwise he's got a ton of dead

1081
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: money attached to him, or try to trade him. You

1082
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: could do that now though you get the money later

1083
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: if you don't want. I don't know how much like

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00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: interest there is. See how it goes. No big surprises.

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00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: Five at the top ten and the one oh one

1086
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: are gone. I think the big gets surprised that J. C.

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00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: Jackson didn't get tagged. And then the Saints, you know,

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00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: have Marcus Williams their safety who they love, and Tehron Armstead,

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00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: and because of their cap situation at least party they

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00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: didn't tag either one of them. Would have been a

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00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: second straight tag for Williams. So you gotta pay more.

1092
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: And that's a lot for a safety. But all those guys,

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00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: Robert sal a little Armstead will be number one on

1094
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: the one oh one. Someone's gonna pay him huge. And Williams.

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00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great safeties out there, but he's

1096
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: he's right at the top of the list. Mark you

1097
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: want to feel old, why not, I'll feel old as

1098
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: well when we um the salary cap was said officially

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00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: a two eight point two million per team. You and

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00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: I started at this company in two thousand ten. That

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00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: was an uncapped year when the owners opted out of

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: the cb A two thousand eleven, the first year we

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00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: were at the company with a salary cap. It was

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00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: on point four million. Well it tells you that, you

1105
00:56:55,560 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: know football, football is a money magnet. None of it

1106
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: has trickled down to us um, but it has gone

1107
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: trickle down. Economics have not included inside these walls necessarily.

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00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: Greg from Uh, I don't know what to say about

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00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: all this. I mean, I would never have expected it

1110
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: to to trickle down that salary cap. That was franchise

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00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: Tag News and Notes presented by up work, the world's

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Speaker 1: work marketplace. Learn more at up work dot com. All right,

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: let's Carlton Davis a free agent, by the way, because

1114
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: they couldn't sign Godwin. I think that's why they were

1115
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: trying so hard so that they could tag Davis and

1116
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: sign Godwin. And now Davis is gonna be making a

1117
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: lot of money. Bryan Jensen, they have two like super

1118
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: high paid wide receivers and no quarterback Ba ba bang.

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Speaker 1: Before we take a break, let's hit eight o'clock to light.

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams gets paid by the Chargers. It's a three year,

1121
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: sixty million dollar contract. Mark you'll like the deal. Williams

1122
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: is a field stretcher, playmaker. Absolutely, he was a tag candidate.

1123
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: You don't justin Herbert guy that was surprised. He's got

1124
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: some buzz and some heat and that Stafford could get

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00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: up to forty five million a year. Greg is that

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00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: too rich for the Super Bowl? Just what it's gonna

1127
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: be for all the quarterbacks. It's what Russell Wilson is

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00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: gonna make two very soon. By the way, yes, when

1129
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, folks will get you a raised. Brian

1130
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: Greasy is going from the Monday Night football booth to

1131
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: the forty Niners joining their coaching staff. Tough sich for

1132
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: the old M and F team, Well, they never seemed

1133
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: to be in the winning column um from a point

1134
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: of public perception. But Greasy and Shanahan are old friends

1135
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: and I know that. Uh Greggy has a theory around

1136
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: He was a teammate of Tom Brady's at Michigan. Oh

1137
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, hey, by the way, you probably don't

1138
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: feel good about your current job if you're willing to

1139
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: take a se pay cut to go become a quarterback coach,

1140
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: like for a much harder job. Hold off on those sandwiches.

1141
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: Tommy's coming back, baby von Miller. He said he wants

1142
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: to go to Denver, uh potentially, and he will now

1143
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: because Russell Wilson's quarterback at Jack Doyle retires really nice

1144
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: workingman like career for the tight end out of Indiana

1145
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: originally nine years of the cults. I believe the rest

1146
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: of that tight end group in Indianapolis right now has

1147
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: about thirty two catches for like two and eighty yards

1148
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: combined between six people. A lot of tight ends in

1149
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: free agency Mo Ali Cox, Ingram Gronk, O j Howard Ertz,

1150
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: Jared Cook. There's there's some Uzama, Gronk and Carson Wentz.

1151
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't I don't love the sound of that tandem.

1152
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. There is a very beefy

1153
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: news one of the beefiest news conversations in the history

1154
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 1: of the show. Let's take a break, and then let's

1155
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: turn our attention, uh to a post mortem on the

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Speaker 1: combine with the great Nick Shook. Oh is it? Oh?

1157
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: My goal is that Nick Music. Let's welcome him in

1158
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: the man in the midth the legend from Cleveland, Ohio,

1159
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: the pipe he's known by some to all the rest,

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Speaker 1: Mr Nick Shook, welcome back to the Round the NFL podcast.

1161
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: But hey, yeah, that's how you doing great? How are

1162
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: you fantastic? I'm standing right now in case you couldn't tell,

1163
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: because you know, staying deaths are good for your health,

1164
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, well you're a mountain. You're a mountain

1165
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: of a man. So like some people, you can't tell.

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you were in that same room with all

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01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: the bench press guys at the combine, did anyone ask

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01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: the pipe for for any advice, considering considering, Like on

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01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: receiver day and a few other days, guys just said

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01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: they were willingly not benching and they were gonna bench

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01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: with their pro day? Was there and then? And you know,

1172
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: we've been trying to figure this out for two years now,

1173
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: why did Chook go from NFL dot Com to a

1174
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: dream job for his boyhood team, the Browns? Pivot back

1175
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: to NFL dot com? You know, you could start reading

1176
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: between the lines that the Browns weren't comfortable with Shook

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01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: being more us of physically than anyone on the team

1178
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: that checks out. I mean, I can't confirm or deny that,

1179
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: but that place all right, here we go. Shook, you

1180
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: did it. You've done it. Nick. You're a rising star

1181
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: at the media, NFL media, and you have the two

1182
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 1: all combined team, which is great. I p great IP.

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01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: You know, like when I went and I got the

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Speaker 1: power ranks. You know what I said, I'm getting the

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Speaker 1: power ranks because I know what it is. It's great

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Speaker 1: I P. Who cares is writing it? But you want

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01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: to be the one writing it, because then that leads

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01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: to opportunity. All Combined Team. I mean, that's it's just

1189
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: like that actually happened on our show. But okay, keep going,

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01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: all right, Mark hanging there, buddy, So you have the

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Speaker 1: All Combined Team. Listen, Mark, I've talked to you about

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Speaker 1: this before you could grab some I P. There's I

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01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: P two be had out there. I think the issue

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01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: is a raging sense of apathy, um, you know, burning

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01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: inside of me towards written stuff on our site. It

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01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: personal fouls. You're gonna rough your help. If somebody hears

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01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: that up, come come get me. All right, here we go. Shuck.

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Speaker 1: You did You did it, the All Combined Team. You

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Speaker 1: broke it down. You were an indy and you have

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Speaker 1: what it looks to be a very interesting group of

1201
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: college prospects. I guess let's start at the quarterback position,

1202
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: where you had to make a decision. Who is the

1203
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: All Combined quarterback? A lot of people are into this.

1204
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: Malik Willis fellow from Liberty, especially after his incident after

1205
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: outside Saint Elmo where he helped the vagrant man uh

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01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: with some clothing that was very nice. That was Malik

1207
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Speaker 1: Willis correct. Yes, it was nailed it, correct, nailed it.

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Speaker 1: But you have Kenny Pickett as your guy, even though

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Speaker 1: he has those tiny, tiny doll hands. Yeah, the tiny

1210
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Speaker 1: hands that dominated the conversation about him leading up to

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Speaker 1: his workout and his measurement, Uh, tied with some of

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Speaker 1: the smallest hands. Uh, probably last fifteen years. Eight and

1213
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Speaker 1: a half inches was was the measurement, but you know

1214
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: he put that to the side when he got on

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Speaker 1: the field. And a lot of this team, I think

1216
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Speaker 1: is built on a combination of measurements, using the next

1217
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Speaker 1: in stats overall draft score, which takes in production and

1218
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: college and also measurements gives them an aggregate score and uh.

1219
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Speaker 1: And then also really for me, it's the on field workout,

1220
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, sitting up there and Lucas Oil Stadium and

1221
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: kind of seeing if guys will separate themselves with their play.

1222
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: And Kenny Pickett didn't necessarily look like an elite quarterback

1223
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Speaker 1: of the future, but what he was was calm, composed,

1224
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: consistently accurate, looked like he was mentally ready for the moment,

1225
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Speaker 1: and did a good job. He did everything he really

1226
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: expected of him and asked of him. He didn't wow

1227
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: you with a massive arm or anything, but he hit

1228
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: throws of significant distance with accuracy, and he never looked

1229
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Speaker 1: like the situation was too high pressure for him. So

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Speaker 1: that's why he ended up on my list. It's not

1231
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Speaker 1: the best quarterback class. We already know this. Malik Willis

1232
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Speaker 1: ended up being an honorable mention in my group. But

1233
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Speaker 1: I liked what I saw enough out of Kenny Pickett

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01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: to see him get drafted somewhere in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Just certainly not somebody I would necessarily trade up to

1236
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: the top three to sellect. But chook, I'm trying to

1237
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: think if I watched anything, the true more audible gas

1238
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Speaker 1: from the Lucas Soil Stadium crowd than the leak Willis

1239
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: his deep shots down field. Yeah, and he had crystal

1240
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: lava out there to chase them down, which I think

1241
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: the gass were about six lave Willis. Look, everybody loves

1242
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: the deep ball, right and it looks good on TV,

1243
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: and it looks good to everybody's sitting in the stands

1244
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: and and it when it's completed, it's very pretty. You know,

1245
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: big arm, big opportunity for him to show off that arm. Uh,

1246
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: there's some other questions that he's got to answer. I

1247
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: think a team's gonna try to maybe potentially be seen

1248
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: as a reach when they take him. But the physical

1249
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: tools are there. It's just a matter of consistency for

1250
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: him and experience somebody that maybe you put on the

1251
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: bench in year one, and eventually he ends up being

1252
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: a productive player. And we could all be wrong a

1253
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: few years from now and be like, why didn't that

1254
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: guy go number one overall or number two wherever um?

1255
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: But right now, you know that's all really Anybody curious,

1256
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: by the way, who has the smallest hands in the

1257
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: current NFL landscape amongst starting quarterbacks. Go ahead is not big.

1258
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: He's he's tied to Townehill and Borrow the smallest hands.

1259
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Speaker 1: He's kind of a fringe starter where tastes Hill at

1260
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Speaker 1: eight and three quarters inches, So he's he's bigger that

1261
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: trailed Borrow, though all played in Pittsburgh. That's the thing,

1262
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: is like in theory that the only time that this

1263
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: would really be a factor is like bad weather games

1264
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: or rainy games, like you amongst any starter, I go

1265
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Ricky, Mr Mr Mr Lamed Denver Broncos quarterback

1266
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: Russell I like that. I I don't buy that these

1267
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gonna fall. And I know that we're talking

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Speaker 1: combine here, but it makes sense to me that Malik

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Speaker 1: Willis would just like rear back and not worry about

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Speaker 1: timing and just decided to throw the ball as far

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Speaker 1: as he could, just to like show off, because that's

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Speaker 1: that's what sells like every year. I feel like if

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Speaker 1: at this point in the process you just did the

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Speaker 1: over unders in Vegas and said all the top quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are gonna go higher than you expect, you would be

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01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: a rich man right now. And Desmond Ritter, to me

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01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: seemed like he checked a lot of boxes. Is a

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01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: guy who improved a ton, was extreme, emily athletic, he

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: could play quarterback. Everyone likes his leadership, and ultimately, like

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01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: these three guys don't seem that different than other guys

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01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: that get taken in the first round. They all feel

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01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: like first rounders to me are close to it. Yeah,

1283
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: I put Ridder in his honorable mention behind Malik Willis

1284
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: because I liked what I saw of him. He had

1285
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,959
Speaker 1: a couple of accuracy issues, but for the most part,

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01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: um the size and everything, it all plays out and

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01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: it makes sense. It's just a matter of I don't

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01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: know how much teams value him. He looked good to me.

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01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: He didn't look great, but he looked good among other

1290
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: good quarters. But you're sitting in the crowd though, you're

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: you're not watching MTV. You're there. Um yeah, well look

1292
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: at that. I'm telling Oh, I'm in the sweet baby,

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, fancy living. You're at Lucas Oil. You're doing

1294
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: ground floor anyway. Hey, how about this, so the next

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01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: Gen Stats draft score? You like that? By the way,

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01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: you like the next Gen draft score thing? That's listen, Mark,

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01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: are you making these up on your own? They're okay,

1298
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: they're from a computer. Okay, Chook, you have correct me.

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. In NFL dot Com a next gens Stats

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01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: column as well, right, uh yeah, during the seasons position

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01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: power rankings. Yes, listen to that, Mark, I have a

1302
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: column too. I'm just acknowledging total apathy tower rankings with

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01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: the next gen's high end bang. I couldn't be high.

1304
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier for what you're accomplishing. But that

1305
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it's what I care about on any

1306
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: level at this age in my life. What do you

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: care about? That's a whole different topic. I mean, we don't.

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01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: That's not it's nothing to do with the combine. How

1309
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: about this? So I saw you have there because I'm

1310
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: fascinated by this man. He's connected to the Jets a lot,

1311
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: Notre Dame safety Kyle Hamilton's he had a nineties score

1312
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: best amongst safeties. Maybe didn't run as fast as some

1313
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: teams would have hoped, but overall, the guy's a complete package.

1314
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: And again it's the tape that matters more than anything,

1315
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: and he was a star for the Fighting Irish. But

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01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: I want to focus on the running backs here because

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: you have a running back, Breeze Hall out of Iowa State.

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01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: He posted a ninety nine Next Gens Stats score, one

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01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: of just six running backs to do that since next

1320
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: Gen had a score I think going back to two

1321
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: thousand three, I did reach out to Shook privately on

1322
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: Texas said who are the other running backs you? Because

1323
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: I read your excellent piece and you mentioned that there

1324
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: were five others but you didn't have who they were.

1325
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: But here are the names. Naj Harris, first round pick,

1326
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: big time player with the Steelers last year, Travis a

1327
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: t N who wasn't played yet, but the first round

1328
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: pick for the Jacks, Quan Derrick, Henry, Reggie Bush. So

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01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: is this guy Breese Hall? I mean it sounds like

1330
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: based on his skill set, this could be an instant star.

1331
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: Is that how you feel about him? Well? I think

1332
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: that his workout backed up what we saw on the tape,

1333
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: which is a three down back I they can get

1334
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: the job done on first and second down on the

1335
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: ground and can catch passes out of the backfield. He's

1336
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: got soft hands and if you were concerned about his speed,

1337
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 1: it ran a four three nine forty. So everything's there,

1338
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: total package in terms of measurables, work out, everything else.

1339
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: He did all of his past catching drills well. There

1340
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: was only one mistake. He ran a Texas route and

1341
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a stumble, came back

1342
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: and ran in a second time and did it flawlessly.

1343
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: So everything that you expect from him, you saw him

1344
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: on the field do every thing well. He's gonna be

1345
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: the first running back off the board and he could

1346
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: be a fit for a team like the Jets. There's

1347
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: I had four other teams listed there in Miami being one,

1348
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: since they need a guy that they can rely on

1349
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: every down as well to jump start that running game.

1350
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: But I think whatever team drafts him is gonna be

1351
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: happy to have him. He's gonna be able to be

1352
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: a workhorse and a guy that can help you in

1353
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: every situation. I was very annoyed to see trail and

1354
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: Burke's not perform up to what you know people thought

1355
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: he might. He had a disappointed comment against keeps getting

1356
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: put in the loser columns. What's his background position in

1357
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:32,480
Speaker 1: school wide receiver? He's Arkansas. He came out in like absolutely,

1358
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: he's the one that was wrestling pigs. Remember we talked

1359
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: about him with with land ceiling. But you do like

1360
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: sky Moore, who is you know, maybe coming a little

1361
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: bit more of a dark horse candidate school I lost

1362
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: to a girl in wrestling that is not current shook

1363
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: your comments on sky Moore, I know you put him

1364
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: in your honorables. Yes I did, Uh, you know I

1365
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: agree with the sentiment on Burke's. I thought I wanted

1366
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: him to come out and actually do some uh, some

1367
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: eye popping things in the workout, and he just didn't.

1368
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: He didn't really stand out to me, but sky More

1369
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: certainly did. This is a guy who dominated in the

1370
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: Mid American Conference in the passing game for Western Michigan,

1371
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: and he always think mid major football. Does that translate? Well,

1372
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: then you put him on the field with guys from

1373
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: Power five schools and he stood out. He was smooth,

1374
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: he was under control, he did everything correct, caught passes

1375
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: in every depth in every situation, flashed the ability to

1376
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: make a highlight play. I think he's a guy that

1377
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: doesn't last pass round two and whoever drafts him is

1378
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: gonna be really happy to have him and play a

1379
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: variety of roles. Uh And and you gonna be the

1380
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: latest MAC product. I think about a guy like Deonte Johnson, who,

1381
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: if he could get his hands together, would be even

1382
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: more productive than he already is. Uh. Matt continues to

1383
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: produce guys like that, and I think he's just the

1384
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: latest in that group. I love guys like that who

1385
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: are just so smooth and and can run round like

1386
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: that seems to translate better. And I love guys that.

1387
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: Steve Smith loves he he was so high on DJ

1388
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: Moore when DJ Moore was coming out, even before he

1389
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: was on the Panthers, he was loving sky More. He

1390
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: he feels like he has a very good feel of

1391
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: receivers that were somewhat like Steve Smith that can excel,

1392
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: and he was loving Sky Moore on the coverage just

1393
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: like an overarching question to Dudley Moore. He talked to

1394
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: Steve Smith about cinema. I'm a big fan of I'm

1395
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: a big fan of Steve Smith. We I ran into

1396
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: him when I had my kids with me bringing him

1397
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 1: to the NFL experience. And I don't know Steve Smith

1398
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: very well, but he's just like went out of his

1399
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 1: way to say something nice about me to my kids,

1400
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: even though I mean, who knows just how I do it.

1401
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: I do a great job on TV, Like they should

1402
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: put him on more and stuff like that. Why is

1403
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: this on our show? Right? I don't know, but I

1404
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: just he just seems like a nice human because that

1405
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: who knows if he even um has ever seen me

1406
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: or whatever, But he was just trying to hook me

1407
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 1: up in front of my kids. Checks out his authentic

1408
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: I thought these defensive edge players and defensive tackles all

1409
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: were so insane nick that like, you're looking at these

1410
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: mocks and it feels like anyone could go anywhere, and

1411
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: that more than most years, no one knows anything. And

1412
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: then there's a lot of copycatting going on with these

1413
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: mocks in general. But guys like Jermaine Johnson or guys

1414
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: like Travon Walker from Georgia who blew up the combine

1415
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: um but maybe he didn't get as much attention because

1416
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis did it on the same day, but he's

1417
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: probably not going as high as him. It's like you

1418
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: could shake up this top five or six between the

1419
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: edge rushers and the tackles. It seems like going any direction,

1420
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: including the number one pick with the Jaguars who just

1421
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: tagged Cam Robinson their tackles, so maybe that's an edge player. Like,

1422
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: how many different players do you think could get taken

1423
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: number one after all these players showed out? I think

1424
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: it's probably one of three guys. It's either Kuon wu

1425
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: um Uh the kid out of Alabama the tackle as well,

1426
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: and then Uh and probably Aiden Hutchinson. Honestly, but why

1427
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: couldn't it be like Jermaine Johnson or Travon Walker and

1428
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: someone just like falls in love doesn't see feel like

1429
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: there's like some huge gap between all these dudes. Well, yeah,

1430
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: I feel like that. Throughout the top ten. I think

1431
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 1: you could go a number of different ways, um, which

1432
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: I think is why these mocks are gonna be all

1433
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: over the place as we get closer to the draft.

1434
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: You know Travon Walker, you want to use one descriptive

1435
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: term for him, it's athletic. I mean, the guy is

1436
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: an athletic freak. He was. He stood out in the

1437
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: drills for that reason. He went to he ran the hoop,

1438
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: you know, the drill that tests kind of your ability

1439
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: to get around the edge and your bend. It looked

1440
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: like he was at a forty five degree angle throughout

1441
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 1: the entire thing and did it with ease. I was

1442
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: stunned by that. He just really stood out there. And

1443
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: then you talk about you know, guys like even Jordan Davis,

1444
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: but you know, on the defensive interior. But Jermaine Johnson,

1445
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: I think is another one. What stood out to me

1446
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: and the drills was his power. You know, he's he's

1447
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: under control. This is a guy who could not crack

1448
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: the starting lineup consistently at Georgia transfers to Florida State

1449
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: and becomes a stud and makes question you know, makes

1450
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: teams raise their eyebrow. Well, why only one year, he

1451
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: said during his interview, lack of snaps, Maybe not the

1452
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 1: best fit. I go to Florida State, I find a home,

1453
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: and I want to be feared at the next level.

1454
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,839
Speaker 1: The guys he models himself after, guys like Aaron Donald

1455
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: and Myles Garrett. Why Because they're feared and that's what

1456
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: I want to be. He believes in himself. He thinks

1457
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: he's the best edge rusher in this draft. So I

1458
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: guess it wouldn't be a massive surprise if he ended

1459
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: up being the first one off the board. But again,

1460
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, with the copycatting, it's all Aid and Hudson

1461
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: a guy who and he's there in terms of frame

1462
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: measured pretty well, didn't quite stand out to me and

1463
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: the drills, but his strengths are technicality. He's he's got

1464
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: the full arsenal pass rushing moves, he's got the experience

1465
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: from playing at Michigan. That's where he's gonna succeed, and

1466
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes it end up ends up

1467
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: making him probably a top two pick. I don't see

1468
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: him getting past Detroit, But I wouldn't be surprised to

1469
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: see any of these other guys go in the top five.

1470
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: I know the combine does this to these mock drafters.

1471
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: And I also noticed that Greg uh complimented Steve Smith,

1472
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: complimenting him, but then about fourteen seconds later took the

1473
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: mock draft industry and I don't disagree with this take

1474
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: and shredded them person to person. But is there too

1475
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: much Is it just for our eyes that the combined

1476
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: results um trigger these rise or fall among players, Because

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Speaker 1: if you're a competent scouting staff, shouldn't it be like

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01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: ninety five percent tape and you know, the combines a

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01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 1: nice cherry on top if you go in and do

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Speaker 1: what we think you're gonna do. Yeah. I think that's

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01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: typically what most scouts will say is that the tape

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: is the proof. And a lot of players will say that,

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01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: especially if they're not going to test well. They just

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01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: be like, we'll look at my tape, check my tapes.

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 1: What if I'm not working out? The proof is in

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01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: the tape. But there's a lot of value in the

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Speaker 1: combine for guys who can elevate themselves. And I think

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01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 1: there were a few that did that this week as well,

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,839
Speaker 1: some more confirming the under the judgment of them than others.

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 1: But there, I mean, we see it every year where

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Speaker 1: a guy just blows the doors off of everybody watching

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01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: and suddenly they're way up high. I think about John

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01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: Ross in that forty time that he ran and where

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01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: he ended up getting drafted. Now, ultimately the tape kind

1495
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: of told us what we saw in the NFL, which

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01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: is that he wasn't a complete receiver. But on the

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: flip side, a lot of guys can make some money

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. I don't care like Jordan Days, anyone that's

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01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: anyone that's three pounds being able to like jump eleven feet,

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01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: you should just put him on a football team and

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01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: just do that every down and then people will just

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01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: get confused and that the effect of it'll just stop,

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01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: it'll stop them. Well, Choke, you've said it all, and

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01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: make sure you check it out on NFL dot com.

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01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: Uh Shooks breakdown is all combined team. And I'll say

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01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: that the next step for you, Choke, now that you

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01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: have you have the tie in with next gen stacks

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01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: during the season, you have you all combined team. Now

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01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: we've got to get at you a tab on the

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01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: mock draft uh side of things, because that's an important

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: little step. There's time of year you gotta basically check

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Speaker 1: the boxes for each season here at the media group, Dan,

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 1: do you have a background in law? Which are you

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01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: trying to be an agent? Here? Is that when you're

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01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: doing here, I'm just I'm just saying I see you

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: as a rising star and I want to make sure

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: we maximize your considerable talent. My goal for you is

1518
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: to gain forty five pounds of fat and then work

1519
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: your way out of it, like give yourself a physical challenge,

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01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: let yourself go into the deep dimensions, and then come back.

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01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: It's like a Yeah, Mark already did that. When I

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01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: was nineteen, I lost sixty pounds in the summer, So

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01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: I've already done that. I'm saying. And and Dan, he's

1524
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: never trained to be an agent, but he has become

1525
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: an expert at climbing the corporate ladder by grabbing onto

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01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: that I p don't don't worry about who you step

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01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: on on the way up, kick him, kicking with they're

1528
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: hanging out. It's a real lesson for the kids. I'll

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: close the two things here real quick. I want you

1530
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: guys to pay attention to this name just because he

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01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: jumped off the field for me. I know he's got

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01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: some issues with tackling. He needs to clean up in

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01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: terms of form and everything else. If you lead, if

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01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: you read lances your zero lines bio on him and

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01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: his scouting work on him, that's what he'll list. But

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01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: there's a kid out of Nebraska, uh, Cam Taylor, let's see.

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01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: I got my notes up right in front of you

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: right now, Cam Taylor, Britt. I think that that kid

1539
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: is gonna end up being a stud at the next level.

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01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: He has uh no, no fear, no regard for his

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01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: physical well being. In terms of attacking ball carriers. He

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01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: was very explosive on the field. I really liked him

1543
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: and the other sleeper. Going back to the I P thing,

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01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: the Flashpoint series a t N flash Oh yeah, is

1545
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: this supposed to be a Bob Singer song on along?

1546
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: And I can't tell you shook how excited Greg is?

1547
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: So you are We're doing an extra show this week

1548
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: just so it didn't feel like we were shoehorning Flashpoint

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01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: into another show that. I mean, the excitement is it.

1550
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 1: I just I could fear it bubbling off Greg and Shook.

1551
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: Obviously you're part of that group too, So don't worry.

1552
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: It's back this week after a one week hiatus, and

1553
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: then it's going back on hiatus next week because you know,

1554
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: we could save We have a long dead, like three

1555
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: month period. We could save these things. Yeah, but this

1556
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: is when you plant the seeds of a successful series. There.

1557
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: There is a lot of unrest in our world, but

1558
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: Flashpoints is returning this week to the show you want.

1559
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: This is like debuting the Voice after the Super Bowl,

1560
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, flit And by the way, Shookie, it's on

1561
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and Baker Mayfield this week with Tony Grossy,

1562
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: long time scribe in that region. No tell Tony, I said, hello,

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01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: I saw him last week. Look at that. I mean

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01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: the guys an industry leader at this point. Shook later, Buddy,

1565
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: all right, Yes, it's back, it's back, and it's coming

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01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: back tomorrow. That's where we end UH Today's show OMEGA

1567
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: a mega edition of the Round the NFL podcast, where

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01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: we hit all the big stories, promoted UH the um

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01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: Flashpoint series, and learned a little bit about Mark Seessler

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01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: and his career aspirations. Anything else to share before we

1571
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: say goodbye from me. I think I've said probably once

1572
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: again too much depending on who's listening to the show.

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01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: So nothing more for me. And yes, there is some

1574
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: tension Greg with the entire group and Erica with the

1575
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: cancoon revelation, but I didn't have any tension about that.

1576
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: That's part of the problem, is that tension. Well, you kept,

1577
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: you kept, he kept going back to me. He's like, well,

1578
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: we gotta move on. Greg's getting sick of this topic,

1579
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 1: and like, I hadn't had any thought about it. I

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01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: was kind of enjoying the back and forth, the fun.

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01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: Just because I'm silent doesn't mean I know you hate this, Greg,

1582
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: because you don't know what's ever going on in my head.

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: I know you, Greg, I've been working, but in this

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01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: particular case, I was just like sitting there sort of

1585
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: just enjoying it. And You're like, Greg's gotta gotta have

1586
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 1: us move on. I'm gonna tell you if you got

1587
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: it wrong, you got it wrong. You do you don't

1588
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: like the Flashpoint series though, I got that right. I

1589
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: mean I don't mind it. I don't. It's not a love.

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01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: It just feels like, you know, Baker is not not

1591
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: on on top of like people's tongues in the well,

1592
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: let's see what happens over the next Actually, we do

1593
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: have teathmakers, though, Greg, we put it on the tongues.

1594
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: We we do have a quote from Baker Mayfield, though

1595
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: that could be just like a little bit of a

1596
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: tease for the Flashpoint series. Ricky is right now. He

1597
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: seems to be happy in his marriage. He's doing all

1598
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 1: those dopey commercials with the wife. He's doing the commercials

1599
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: with her. I mean, I'm not gonna I don't know,

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01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: you know again, I feel like it's time for me

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01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 1: to stop talking and we need to go. All right, Uh,

1602
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: get everybody for listening. Yes, a big show, big week

1603
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: for the show. We have three episodes back to back

1604
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: to back as we ramp up towards the new league

1605
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: year and free agency, and then the television show returned

1606
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: another show back from hiatus around the NFL broadcast on Friday.

1607
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: Check your local listings. Okay, let's go Ricky no matter what.

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01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: By the way, my frustrations about the Camcoon trip, I

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01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: love you now they're warranted completely, Like, yeah, I love

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01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: Greaver is gonna do a great job, but you know

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Speaker 1: I love it. He the call