1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: to The Herd podcast. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: So somebody in the world of football already feel in 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: the heat? Already feel in the heat? Well, explain who 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: that is coming up here in just a couple of 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: moments from now. Jonas Knox in for Colin Cowherd here 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: on The Herd on Fox Sports Radio. 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And I bring up Saturday 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: because this past Saturday, you know, doing a show, the 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: Ohio State Texas game is going on, and I'm watching 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: the reaction to arch manning struggles and then just kind 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: of seeing maybe the overreaction to some things throughout college 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: football that doesn't make it this point earlier, I said, Look, 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I like the fact that the College Football 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: Playoff gives teams an opportunity to suffer a loss, to 34 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: struggle a little bit early on. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: I like that. 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: Because it allows you to go through those difficulties and 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: still not be punished so much that you can't play 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: for something bigger. This isn't like boxing, where you would 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: be punished if you lost your perfect record, all right. 40 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: They're more like the UFC or like, hey, you got 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: a couple of losses, whatever. If you're next in line 42 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: for a title shot, you're getting a title shot, Like look, 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: whoever's next in line. You got to do the work, 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: But whoever's next in line, you're gonna get your opportunity. 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: The College Football Playoffs allowed teams to do that, so 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: you could lose early on in the season. You could 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: be a Clemson and lose and everything's going to be fine. 48 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: You could be a Notre Dame and lose to Miami 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: and everything's going to be fine. Christ Notre Dame lost 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: last year to Northern Illinois and still figure it out 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: a way to get in. Like you can be in 52 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: Ohio State and lose to Michigan and you're still going 53 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: to have an opportunity. And then there's Alabama, and then 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: there's Cana Debor and take it over for Dick Saban 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: and eh, you open up this year, you take on 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: Florida State, who won two games a year ago, and 57 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: you just get annihilated at the line of scrimmage, which 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: just didn't happen when Nick Saban was the coach at Alabama, right, 59 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: it just. 60 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: Looked a little bit different. 61 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: And so they go into Tallahassee and get stomped out 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, Klein de Boris feel in 63 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: the heat and he spoke about the performance of Alabama 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: following the loss to Florida State that yous to believe. 65 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: We got to go football team. 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: But you know, we can't play on our heels like 67 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: we're not going to be what we think we can 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: be what we want to be if that's the case. 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: And so again that falls on everyone. I don't just 70 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: put the point the finger at the players. You know 71 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 4: gave the I know the both sides of the ball. 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: I mean, you kind of know what you're gonna see, 73 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: but going into the game, but you know, with new coordinators, 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: but we gotta you know, we talked in a lot. 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: There's no excuse about what happened. We step on the 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: football field, they step on the football field, and we 77 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: got to play ball. We got to play our style 78 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: of ball. And you know last year isn't this year, 79 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: and it's going to be an uphill climb for us. 80 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: But you can't think of it the big scope of things. 81 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: You got to focus on the moment and the next 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 4: moment is what happens tomorrow. 83 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: That's Calin de boor the Alabama head coach following the 84 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: loss to Florida State. All of that makes sense, and 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: all of that is the probably the right outlook to have, 86 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: especially after losing that and as I mentioned earlier, Look, 87 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: these are difficult games, especially if you go on the road. 88 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: If you go on the road in a difficult environment 89 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: early on, it's what makes the LSU win so impressive. 90 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: But if you go on the road early on, I 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: don't care what Florida State was last year. They're not 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: a two win team. Like, I don't see Florida State 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: winning one more game the rest of the year. That's 94 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: a difficult place. Everybody's fired up. Fans have been licking 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: the lid in the parking lot for hours at that point, 96 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: probably stayed up from the night before. 97 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: But that's a that's a fiery environment. So I look 98 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: at it. 99 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: I go, look, man, Yeah, it's a difficult loss. I 100 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: get it. But you can bounce back, much like Texas. 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: You can bounce back. But it's Alabama and that's the problem, 102 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: and that's the issue, and that's why there are differences here. 103 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: It's what makes college football great to where I'm not 104 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: condoning poisoning a tree that's been there for two hundred years. Okay, 105 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: but that happened, and it happens in college football. Did 106 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: anybody see the Alabama fan who went viral? Somebody zoomed 107 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: in on an Alabama fan as they were getting stomped 108 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: out by Florida State, and the guy just literally threw 109 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: up a middle finger. He knew he was on camera, 110 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: he knew it was in the stadium. He was pissed. 111 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 2: He was your typical Alabama fan, polo shirt, a slouch 112 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: hat with the with the bill curved so much that 113 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: you could barely see his eyes. Camera pops up on 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: him and he just throws them the bird. Couldn't even 115 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: care less. That's Alabama. That's that's the way they operate. 116 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: As somebody who worked and spent time in sec country 117 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: doing radio back in the day, somebody who's been to Alabama. 118 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: That fan base has a certain level of expectation, and 119 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: that certain level of expectation is because of Nick Saban. 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: He's the greatest to ever do it. And Calin de 121 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: Boor has taken over a near impossible job because to 122 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: be the guy after Nick Saban. 123 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: Is a real pain in the ass. It just is. 124 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: But that's a difficult task to have to take over 125 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: that job. And that's why when Caleaen de bor took 126 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: the job, was like, I get it, he's getting paid, 127 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: but damn, that's a lot to ask just to give 128 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: you an idea the level of success that Nick Saban 129 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: had at Alabama. 130 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: Just to give you an idea. 131 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: Calin de Boor already in his time at Alabama has 132 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: four losses versus unranked teams. Nick Saban had four losses 133 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: versus unranked teams in seventeen years. Like, we got a problem. 134 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: It's a problem. Okay, there's already people calling for Canada 135 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: Bor's job. All right, there's already the fans are already out, 136 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: they are already out. 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: In full force. 138 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: There's got to be some changes here that the things 139 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: have got it with, you know, we gotta somebody's got 140 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: to do something. This is unacceptable. And Alabama's probably going 141 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: to turn out to be a pretty good team. And look, 142 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: because of the expanded College Football Playoff, maybe Alabama's going 143 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: to bounce back, Maybe they'll go on a run in 144 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: the SEC. 145 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 3: Maybe everything's going to be fine. 146 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: Or Alabama fans are finally realizing, yeah, that's not Nick Saban. 147 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that Caleen Divor is not a 148 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: good coach. He did great things at Washington. It doesn't 149 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: mean he's not a good coach. He is, but that 150 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: job at that school, with that program and those expectations 151 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: is a different level. 152 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: It just is. 153 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: I was born and raised in southern California. Right now, 154 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: some people will call it the Hato five, right but 155 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: I was born and raised in Thousand Oaks, California. I 156 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: liked college football growing up. I was a fan of 157 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 2: college football obviously, you know the great Miami teams back 158 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,479 Speaker 2: in the day. I like college football, of course, the traditions, 159 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: all that stuff, but I didn't get college football. I 160 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: liked it, but I didn't totally get it until I 161 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: started doing radio in the South and I realize, oh god, 162 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: it's just different here. 163 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 3: It really is. 164 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: And that's not to diminish what USC did with Matt 165 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: Lioner and Reggie Bush and those guys, and Pete Carroll, 166 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: that's not to diminish them. But even then, at the 167 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: height of USC and the dominant program that they had, 168 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: even then some of the great players and greatest teams 169 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: we've ever seen, it's not even close to what it 170 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: is in the South during college football season. It isn't 171 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: even not even a fraction. And we're talking about like 172 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: mid tier SEC teams like South Carolina. When I was 173 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: there and Steve Spurrier was the coach. They were okay, 174 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: they were competing for a national championship that wasn't happening, 175 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: but they're okay. Fan base is nuts. What do you 176 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: think Alabama's like Alabama then? And that was before Nick 177 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: Saban put together this legendary run in Tuscaloosa. That was 178 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: even then, that fan base was crazy. Like they they 179 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: live and breathe and die college football. That's all they 180 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: care about. So while Klein de Borr is a very 181 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: good coach who can withstand a lot of the heat 182 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: and other places in Tuscalosa, that's a tall task. That's 183 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: a really tall task. Nebraska great program, right, they couldn't 184 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: wait to get rid of Bopolini, and bo Polini was 185 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: winning nine games a year constantly not. 186 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: Good enough, not good enough? See you? Okay, how's that going? 187 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: I mean, Matt Ruhle, maybe he has him back to prominence, 188 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: maybe he can get him there, but that wasn't good enough. 189 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: And whatever Kaylen de Boor does short of Nick Saban 190 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: is not going to be good enough. He took on 191 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: an impossible task. He's expected to take over and replace 192 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: the greatest to ever do it. And on top of that, 193 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:33,239 Speaker 2: in a place that is obsessed with that program. Obsessed. 194 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: They care about football in the South more than you 195 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 2: care about your kids. They are obsessed. And so whatever 196 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: Kaylen de Boor says after the game, and maybe they'll 197 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: bounce back, and maybe they'll respond, and maybe they'll go 198 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: on a heater, they're still going to be majority of 199 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: Alabama fans that are like, yeah, but he's not Saban, 200 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: And I got news for you. He's never going to 201 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: be Saban. He's going to feel the heat because he 202 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: took on the impossible task of replacing the greatest ever 203 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 2: do it, and more often than not, that never ends well. 204 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: At the Jonas Knocks on x at Jonas knock Show 205 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: on Instagram is where you can follow along as we 206 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: are in for the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. 207 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: By the way, we're brought to you by Rocket Mortgage. 208 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: The home you've worked so hard for is ready to 209 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: work hard for you with a home equity loan from 210 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: Rocket Mortgage. To learn how you can turn your home's 211 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: equity into cash, visit Rocket mortgage dot com today. 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In the headline News 237 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: we've got a proof that there is one fan base 238 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: and one venue in the NFL that. 239 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: Goes harder than the others. 240 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: We'll get into that for you again, coming up here 241 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: a little over ten minutes from now. So Calvin Ridley 242 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: of the Tennessee Titans, he spoke recently. He was talking 243 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: with ESPN, and I don't know if you remember Calvin Ridley. 244 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: I called him the people's wide receiver because while he 245 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: was away from playing football, the guy was out there 246 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: doing like seven seven leg parlays and all sorts of 247 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: fun stuff like that. 248 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know what, man, he's one of us. 249 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: Look at that. Guys just like us. Guy's just like us. 250 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: It's like when Christian Bale was seen driving like a 251 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: Tacoma looks like like a two thousand and five Tacoma. 252 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: If you're like, oh my, look at that. He's a celebrity. 253 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: He drives a pickup truck. Yeah, it's just like us. 254 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley out there doing seven league parlays, just like us. 255 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: But Calvin Ridley with ESPN and talked about the suspension. Quote, 256 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: the suspension gave me time to rest, get physically better 257 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: and mentally stronger after that year, I was ready to 258 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: come back. He talked about the gambling he took part in, 259 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: said I downloaded the apps, sitting there and not knowing 260 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: that I was breaking a rule or anything. And he 261 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: bet on two NFL games. There were two NFL games, 262 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: none on his team, I don't believe, but he bet 263 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: on two games. He said, hey, yeah, those are the 264 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: only two that I bet on. It's like, okay, you know, 265 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: maybe instead of like making Calvin Ridley explain himself, maybe 266 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: instead of making Calvin Ridley sit here and be criticized 267 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: and judged, Maybe instead of being a wise ass and 268 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: looking at Calvin Ridley and saying, you know what, man, 269 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: how could you how could you yeurinate away potentially your 270 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: NFL career? You talk about loving football as a kid 271 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. You know, maybe instead of taking 272 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: that approach, we could give Calvin Ridley a round of 273 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: applause and say, you know what, Goud was ahead of 274 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: his time like I was ahead of his time. Now 275 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: keep it going, man, I'm serious, and that's enough. Let's 276 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: say judgment free z own year on Fox Sports Radio, 277 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: on this show when I'm hosting, tell you why. According 278 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: to an estimate released by the American Gaming Association, NFL 279 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: betters are expected to wager approximately thirty billion dollars on 280 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: the league this season with legal sports books in the US. 281 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: By the way, it's not even legal in every state. 282 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: There's like twelve states that are still holding out. California 283 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: is too. 284 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: What a shock. 285 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: Wait, what a stunner, California. Oh, he can't go. Okay, 286 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: what a stunner. Thirty billion dollars. That's an eight point 287 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: five percent increased from last year. Okay, that's what we're 288 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: talking about. Calvin really was just ahead of his time. 289 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: You know, he saw what was happening, just like a 290 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: lot of people saw what was happening. And when you 291 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: think about how much people are going to and look, 292 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: there's a and I get it. There are some people 293 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: who do have issues, all right, show Hey, Otani's interpreter. 294 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: That guy had some problems, all right, got some problems. 295 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: You know, he's betting on like you know, Indian Premier 296 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: League cricket and you know horse races overseas where the 297 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: horses run backwards like it, just like like I get it, Okay, 298 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: I understand some people have a problem. And I've heard 299 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: some people say that this is concerning. If we're opening 300 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: this up, you know, people could get into financial trouble. 301 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: People can get it. Okay, all that's true. But I'm 302 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: not going to walk by a liquor store and say 303 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: you guys to shut down, sir or ma'am because so 304 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: and so has a drinking problem. No, I'll walk by 305 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: and say, hey, so and so's got a drinking problem. 306 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: But if they got cash, I mean, I don't have 307 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: to tell you, Like, somebody's got to scratch the edge. 308 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: It's not my job to tell the NFL or anybody 309 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: else or anybody that wants to partake in gambling, hey, 310 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: you shouldn't do that. And here are the pitfalls. Not 311 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: everybody falls into the open sewer that somebody took the 312 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: cap off of. Not everybody falls. Some people are aware, Yeah, 313 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: this could be a problem. Got to keep my eyes open, 314 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: head on a swivel. And you look at those numbers, 315 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: thirty billion dollars and it's not even legal in every 316 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: state I talked about it earlier. You saw the numbers 317 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: of the preseason. You see you saw the preseason numbers, 318 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: like the viewership two point two million, like up seventeen 319 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: percent on last here, et cetera, et cetera. Like you 320 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: don't think that there were some people gambling on the preseason, 321 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: there were one and Ahino. 322 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: I know because I'm one of them. 323 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: I don't think people understand and and and look, they've 324 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: welcome gambling in and I get it. There's gonna be 325 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: some athletes. I think the Cleveland Guardians, you know, they 326 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: used to be called something else. But listen, we're not 327 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: going to go down that road. Right, you can watch 328 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: Major League if you want to see that. Right, it's 329 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: a damn shame. But the Cleveland Guardians have got two 330 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: pitchers who are on leave and they're investigating, like like 331 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: really good pictures, and they're investigating them because they're like, man, 332 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: we really saw a spike in betting. Yeah, what was it? 333 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: You know, people betting whether or not the next pitch 334 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: was going to be a ball or a hit by pitch. 335 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: And then lo and behold, the very next pitch was 336 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: way outside, like a lot further outside than normal. Said oh, okay, yeah, 337 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: that might be an issue, that might be a problem, 338 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean you just stop. That doesn't mean 339 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: you to say no, no, nobody can partake. Nobody can be evolved, 340 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: and I think that the NFL and I think that 341 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: people are slowly pulling back on the restrictions. You've seen 342 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: how they've adjusted the punishments to athletes who get popped. 343 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: You've seen how it used to be, all everybody's gone 344 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: for a full season, or everybody's gone for six games, 345 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: then it's like, M kind kind of work with you 346 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: on this. It wasn't that long ago that Tony Romo, 347 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: before he was golfing and part time broadcasting. It wasn't 348 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: that long ago that Tony Romo wanted to set up 349 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: a fantasy football convention in Las Vegas, and the NFL said, no, no, 350 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: you can't, Like, we don't like the we don't like 351 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: the idea of gambling getting involved here. Ten years later, 352 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: thirty billion, thirty billion is going to be gambled on 353 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: the NFL, And I think the NFL realized there's an 354 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: opportunity to make money. But I think they've also realized, yeah, 355 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: there's gonna be the potential that guys are gonna go sideways, 356 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 2: Like there is the potential of that. You've seen it 357 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: happen in the NBA. It was it Johntay Porter, Like 358 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: you've seen listen like, yeah, there's the potential of that, 359 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean that you just get rid of 360 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: it for everybody. Like Calvin Ridley served his punishment, he 361 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: learned his lesson quote unquote, other guys have you know, 362 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 2: gotten popped for it and they've been punished for it. 363 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: But the fact that you see so many people taking part, 364 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: so many that you're looking at thirty billion up eight 365 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: point five percent, and I got news for eight point 366 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: five percent of thirty billion is a lot. 367 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: That's a lot. 368 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: But when you're seeing those numbers and it's still not 369 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 2: legal in over ten states in the country, it's only 370 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: going to get bigger. That lead we mentioned earlier the 371 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: NFL has on every single sport. Based on the ratings 372 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: that came out for preseason games, that lead's only getting bigger. 373 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: There's going to be more of this. There's going to 374 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: be the potential of more players coming up or popping 375 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 2: up that are gambling on games or partaking in games. 376 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. 377 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: I'm one of those people who takes Pete Rose's side 378 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: from this standpoint, if he didn't bet against his team, 379 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: I do look at that different than betting on your team. 380 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm sorry I do, because there's nothing wrong with supporting 381 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: your team and betting on your team. Trust me, I've 382 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: rooted for awful teams, awful teams growing up, and if 383 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: there was an opportunity to bet on him, I was 384 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 2: going to do it. I would never bet against him. 385 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: Wanted to be loyal, but I was good. So I'm 386 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: one of those people. I know it's a little crazy, 387 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 2: but I'm one of those people looks at it says, well, 388 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: you know, people, if he didn't bet, like I can 389 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: understand the punishments and all that, but if he didn't 390 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: bet against his team. As a manager, I think we 391 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: do look at that a little bit differently than betting 392 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: on your team. Calvin really getting punished and opening up 393 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: about it and all that, all these other guys that 394 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: have been punished. This stuff's gonna continue to pop up. 395 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: I got news for you. It's gonna happen. When the 396 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: Super Bowl was in Vegas a couple of years ago, 397 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 2: I thought it was ridiculous that the NFL is like, oh, 398 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: we're banning anybody on either team. Anybody on either team 399 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: that is seen in a casino, they'll be banned from 400 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: the game, Like they're talking about all these punishments, and 401 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: I remember at the point being like, so a second, 402 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: you mean to tell me if somebody walks up in 403 00:23:54,280 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: Jake Moody's playing a penny slot at the Luxor, likely 404 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: like you walk by, Hey, look it's Jake Moody. He's 405 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: playing penny slots. He's playing the double Dolphin game at 406 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: the lux Or, or Buffalo Stampede at the lux Or. 407 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: You mean to tell me he's not gonna be allowed 408 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: to play in the Super Bowl because he's betting on 409 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: a slot machine. And I think the NFL is starting 410 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: to loosen some of those restrictions as far as Yeah, 411 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's not the end of the world, but 412 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: it's also not the end of the gambling infusion. 413 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: In the NFL. 414 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: If it's thirty billion this year, it's only gonna be 415 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: more next year, especially when you've got ten plus states 416 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: that still don't allow it. This is only the tip 417 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: of the iceberg. There's gonna be more of it, and 418 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 2: there's probably gonna be more paranoia that comes along with it. 419 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: At the Jonas Knox on X at Jonas Knox Show 420 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 2: on Instagram is where you can follow along if you'd 421 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: like to. By the way, we are going to tell 422 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: you coming up here in a little over fifteen minutes 423 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: from now, we are going to tell you about uh, 424 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: a front office executive in the NFL who missed a 425 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: pretty obvious, pretty obvious detail of his assessment on his 426 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 2: starting quarterback. We will have that for you again here 427 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: a little over fifteen minutes from now. But right now, 428 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: it's time for the second installment of the herd Line News. 429 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 6: No, no, no, this is the herd Line News. 430 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: All right, lead to lat What do we got. By 431 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: the way, Lee, you're a degenerate, flunky gambler. You're still 432 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: betting on horse races at dive bars. 433 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's my favorite thing to do, you know, 434 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: minimum bet. 435 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: Hey, let me just tell you something for anybody listening 436 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: across the country. I know there's there's the race tracks 437 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: all around. You want to go have a damn good 438 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: time during the NFL season, go to Santa Anita. Oh yeah, 439 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: that's a damn good time. Let's go live to our 440 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: I have a thought on gambling inside of Christopher for 441 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: the latest. I think I'm actually taking a weekend off 442 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: in October to go to del Mar for the Breeders' Cup. Yeah, 443 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: it just looked like that's yeah, it's uh football on 444 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: the phone. 445 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 3: It's just. 446 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: Santa Anita Racetrack is one of the most underrated venues 447 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: that there ready to go to. It's just a tremendous time, 448 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: especially during football season. People out there betting their life 449 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: savings on the three horse and the fourth race. 450 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: There's nothing better. My dad learned how to drive chauffeuring 451 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 3: my grandfather up for carriage racing in Toledo. That's right, 452 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: Like the carriage racing is some real dirt bag stuff. 453 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: Hey, let me tell you. Let me tell you something. 454 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: The late great Frank Pollock Fox Sports radio legendar. Frank 455 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: used to go to the go Beta races all the time. 456 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: That guy used to fish, eat terrible food, and gamble 457 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: on horses. 458 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with that. What do we got, Lee? Well, 459 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: what goes great with a little gambling on the game? 460 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: About a little cold beer? And for NFL fans, they 461 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: might be comping up a pretty penny depending on what 462 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: stadium you're going to during the game. Can you guess 463 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: which stadium has the highest priced beer? Oh? Highest priced? 464 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: So fine, man, just a ripoff at you I mean 465 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: it is. It is up there. It has fourteen dollars beers, 466 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: but there is a few that are a bit more 467 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: that being Levi's Stadium, which is actually also fourteen so 468 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: it's the same. But Raymond James Stadium fourteen twenty five, 469 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 3: Allegiance Stadium fifteen bucks. But the top and highest priced 470 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: beer is Washington Commanders at Commander's Field sixteen fifty sixteen. 471 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: Now are we talking domestic beers? That is a domestic beer, 472 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: because if you're gonna go ipa, you know what, is 473 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: I gonna go twenty. 474 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: Five bucks for an Inpa? 475 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, she can put that a layaway. 476 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: So a domestic beer at a Commander's game is sixteen 477 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: fifty Yeah, and. 478 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 3: I assume that's a tall Boy, you know, tall kens 479 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: Twenty four ounces could be twenty five. If you Penny 480 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: Brand are going with Lee, would you break down just 481 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: so people understand vernacular, could you break down just the 482 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: different beer sizes based on ounce if you could just well, 483 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: your regular standard beer is gonna be twelve twelve ounces? Yeah, 484 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 3: but from there, but who who's twelve ounces? Especially out 485 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: of at a game typically typically if it's going typically 486 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: if it's a draft of beer. They'll offer you sixteen 487 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: ounce poor some do twenty twenty two ounce, But if 488 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: you're going with the can, that's a twenty four ounce. 489 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 3: But often they oftentimes now they they give you that 490 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 3: extra ounce twenty five five. Those those are tall boys. 491 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 3: Those are tall boys. And then you get your. 492 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: Thirty two's and your forties and and all that. It's like, 493 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: looks like we're talking about guns here. 494 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: Now, do you know or can you guess which stadium 495 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: has the cheapest beer. 496 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: Ahh, that's that's a good one. 497 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: Cheapest for domestic beer because they probably I mean it's 498 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: probably somebody who want I'll say Jacksonville. I gotta think 499 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: like Atlanta with their whole push to go cheap on 500 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: food and stuff, Jacksonville is middle of the pack. Atlanta 501 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: is also somewhere in the middle, well kind of near 502 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: the near the bottom. But Jacksonville is ten dollars about 503 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: ten twenty five of beer at fifty Now the cheapest 504 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 3: is Cincinnati six eighty for all. 505 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: No wonder they drink so much, But there was a 506 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: report that came out that Bengals fans drink more than 507 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: anybody else at games. Now I get it six bucks 508 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: for a beer that's a steal. You can't get that 509 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: anywhere nowadays for domestic beer. 510 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: That works. 511 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So I mean, look, you know, at least, 512 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: I mean, they're not paying their players, but at least 513 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: you know, they're not sure changing their fans on you know, 514 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: on their beer. 515 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: Maybe they should charge a little bit more and then 516 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: they could you know, hate their players. Yeah. 517 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so Trey Hendrickson, if you've got to gripe 518 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: against the Bengals, why don't you tell him to double 519 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: up on the prices for their domestic beers and there 520 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: won't be an issue there. 521 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, they could double the price and still be middle 522 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 3: of the pack on price of beer. Sixteen fifty for 523 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: a beer to watch the Commanders. Good God for like 524 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: a Miller Lite. What else we got, lee, Guys, this 525 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: might be news for fantasy football players out there. Jalen 526 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: Warren reached a two year extension. Details quite aren't quite 527 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: out there yet. He's gonna still make seven million this year, 528 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: but does get twelve million guaranteed. 529 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 530 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: This probably is the last day for a lot of 531 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: fantasy football draft. I knew you had to spin on this, Yeah, 532 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: I knew you had to spin on it. Caleb Johnson 533 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: is typically going before j Warren. 534 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 4: Right. 535 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: I remember I was at my draft this weekend and 536 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: somebody said, uh, Jalen Warren. I said, don't you mean 537 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: Tyler Warren, the rookie tight end for for Indianapolis. They're like, no, dude, 538 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: Jalen Ward. I was all, go, yeah, I forgot about him. 539 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: He's probably pretty good value. Still, he's probably gonna be 540 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: you know, he is the starter. 541 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: So you've got now for people that are not familiar, 542 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: Lee's in, Like, how many different fantasy leagues are you 543 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: in this year? 544 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: I'm in five, all right, and I've completed three. I 545 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: got two more today. 546 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: Now we do know, based on discussions with Lee on 547 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: the Morning Show two Pros and a cup of Joe 548 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, who aren't here today, we 549 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: do know that in having those discussions that Lee still 550 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: owes his league money. No wait, because you are the 551 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: commissioner of the league. Everybody paid you, and then you 552 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: use the money they paid you with to spend on 553 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: other things, typically for. 554 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: My other leagues. Okay, so I collect dues for my 555 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: one league, and then I use those dudes to basically 556 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 3: pay for my dues to the four other leagues. You're 557 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: doing a fantasy football pyramid scheme. Basically, you know, they 558 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: tried to hold my feet to the well. They don't 559 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: know exactly what I'm doing, but what we were talking 560 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: about doing is taking all the buy in money and 561 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: putting it into the stock and then you know, typically off. 562 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 3: I stop. He is the burning made off of fantasy football. 563 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: What is going on? You gotta stop. This is not 564 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: this is not. This is not a get rich plan. 565 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: Everybody with fantasy football, it's all above board. It's not. 566 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: It's not. 567 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: It's not above board because people are asking for their 568 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: money and you spend it on booze. 569 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: It's not above board. They did nothing right about this 570 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: commit The commission needs his fuel. Man, I'll pay drag 571 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 3: before Congress. 572 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: But you've got you've got two other leagues you're going 573 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: to be drafting in today. 574 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and two other drafts. 575 00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 576 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: And uh, for those who know Roberto, he's got me. 577 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: I told him not to do this, but he's starting 578 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: my draft about a half hour into my other draft. 579 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: I told him, don't do that. It's the only time 580 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: we can fool Yeah, exactly, that's what he said. And 581 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, I got I got to basically going on 582 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: at the same time, which is a problem. Wow, all right, 583 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: Well at least Jalen warn to be available. What else 584 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: we got, Lee, Well, maybe some more news for those 585 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: who are interested in Tyreek Hill is not going to 586 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: be a captain on the offense for the Dolphins. He 587 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: says he still has to prove himself. So quarterback Tua, 588 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: center Aaron Brewer, and fullback alec Ingold or the current. 589 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: Captains that'll teach him. You don't get to wear see 590 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 2: on your jersey. Dan will teach him. 591 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: God. 592 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: By the way, I think they had they had an 593 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: outside linebackers coach who got arrested for a domestic dispute 594 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: earlier this weekend or something like that. 595 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 3: Like there was that that popped up with the Dolphins. 596 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: Obviously a different that's a different level of offense as 597 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: opposed to you know, Tyreek Hill not getting a captain 598 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: announcement next to his name. But I just get this 599 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: vibe that this is going to be a rough year 600 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: for the Dolphins. It's like I just I just get 601 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: this feeling that things are going to go off the 602 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: rails here in Miami. They already kind of have, but 603 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 2: you know, the Tyreek Kills stuff, they're basically raking him 604 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: over the coals, trying to get him to uh oh, 605 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: he's got to he's got to make nice. 606 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: He's got to do this, He's got to do that. 607 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's been apologetic, but you know, then 608 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: there was a report that came out that he was 609 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: talking about teammates needing to be on time and then 610 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: he was late for like stretching or It's just it 611 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: just feels like it's only a matter of time before 612 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: Tyreek killing the Dolphins have an issue again. 613 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: You know. That seems to be the way things go 614 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: there with him. Yeah, lots of injuries still there on 615 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 3: the offensive side too. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a not 616 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: an ideal spot to be in. 617 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: And what you know, it's probably going to be a 618 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: runaway for the Buffalo Bills in that division. 619 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: Uh. That was the hardline News. 620 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 5: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 621 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 5: herd Line News. 622 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox in for Colin Coward here on Fox Sports Radio. 623 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: You can get me on x at the Jonas Knox 624 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 2: or you can follow along on Instagram at Jonas Knox Show. 625 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: You know, there's a there's a front office executive in 626 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 2: the NFL. He made a statement recently, but he's missing 627 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: the most obvious part of the issue with his organization. 628 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it is next. 629 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 630 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 5: at noon Easter not a em Pacific. 631 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox Fox Sports Radio in for the Herd. Here. 632 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 2: You can also find us on the iHeartRadio app coming 633 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 2: up top of next hour about fifteen minutes from now. 634 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: There are debuts, and then there's this in the world 635 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 2: of sports. We'll tell you what that is again, coming 636 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 2: up here about fifteen minutes from now. By the way, 637 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: you are listening to us now, did you know you 638 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: can also see us. Be sure to check out the 639 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio 640 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 2: on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of video 641 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you 642 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 2: always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos 643 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: on YouTube. So the NFL obviously kicks off this weekend. 644 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: One of the interesting compelling games that we're going to 645 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: get to see is, you know, a couple of old 646 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: friends reintroducing themselves to each other. The Steelers and the Jets, 647 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 2: and you got two quarterbacks swapping places like they've swapped, 648 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Rodgers now Pittsburgh Steeler, Justin Fields is 649 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: now in New York Jet, And so there's been this 650 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 2: thought that, look, Aaron Rodgers started to play better down 651 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: the stretch last year, which he did, and based on 652 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: the production, the Steelers have added quarterbacks since Ben Roethlisberger 653 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: retired and probably actually, if you think about it, maybe 654 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: the second year, like two years, maybe before Ben Roethlisberger retired, 655 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 2: like before the last one, because the last one, I 656 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: think everybody acknowledged that he was, you know, starting to 657 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: slow down and it just wasn't the same player. But 658 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: they've not had high level production at quarterbacks since probably 659 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 2: the second to last year Ben Roethlisberger was there in Pittsburgh. 660 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: And so you look at the Aaron Rodgers signing for 661 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: the Steelers and you go, all right, well, if they 662 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: could just get that, it's a major upgrade of that 663 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: position than they've gotten. And Justin Fields reportedly had a 664 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: chance to go to the Pittsburgh steel or stay with 665 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers sign an extension there, and decided he 666 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: wanted to go elsewhere because the Jets had reportedly offered 667 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: him a little bit more money. And so now Justin 668 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: Fields is the quarterback with the Jets, and you're hearing 669 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: these reports about him struggling at training camp, and you know, 670 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: maybe it didn't doesn't look all that good, and there 671 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn's got a player's only practice that they called 672 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: and everything that comes along with it. You know, a 673 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and you've got the Jets GM 674 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: Darren Moogie, who was talking recently and you know, he 675 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: was asked by you know, members of the media like, hey, 676 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: you know, you've seen sort of a revival for certain 677 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL. You know, guys like Baker Mayfield, 678 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 2: guys like Sam Darnold who have gone elsewhere and turned 679 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: into the player everybody thought they were going to be 680 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: when they were drafted high. Do you see Justin Fields 681 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: being one of those guys? 682 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 7: I do believe Justin can be one of those guys, 683 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 7: and I like, like I just mentioned, I've seen the 684 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 7: progress during this camp and look forward to seeing the 685 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 7: progress throughout the season as they all come together. Obviously, 686 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 7: it's his third stop in three years, with three different 687 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 7: coordinators and a lot of moving parts, so it does 688 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 7: take time, but I like where it's at and I 689 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 7: look forward to watching the progress. 690 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was Jets GM Darren Moogie saying, look, 691 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: I do feel like Justin Field's can be one of 692 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: those guys. I feel like he can be like a 693 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield Sam Donald. The problem is Sam Donald was 694 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 2: a Jet Like that's that's the problem. Okay, Like that's 695 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: I feel like you've kind of identified one of the 696 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 2: real issues, right And I know that. Look, Aaron Glenn's there, 697 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: brand new Jets. Darren Moogie's there, it's brand new Jets. 698 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 2: I know because we've heard this time and time again. 699 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: All Right, we heard it, you know, with all these 700 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 2: different coach GM combinations, et cetera, et cetera. But him 701 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: talking about Justin Fields being another Sam Donald, when Sam 702 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: Donald had to become the real Sam Donald by leaving 703 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 2: your franchise, speaks volumes about the situation that Justin Fields 704 00:38:51,239 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 2: is in with Woody Johnson. There, good luck, good luck 705 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: like that like have fun with all that. The Baker 706 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: Mayfield comp I understand that that's that's really the one 707 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 2: you look at and go, all right, that could be 708 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 2: something there but again, those guys leave those organizations because 709 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 2: those organizations are ran poorly. Baker Mayfield left Cleveland because 710 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: Cleveland turned their back on Baker Mayfield because he struggled 711 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 2: during an injury filled year. Like that doesn't get talked about. 712 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: He tried to play through injuries, it didn't go well, 713 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 2: but Baker Mayfield had actually played to a high level 714 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: before that. They want a playoff game with Baker Mayfield 715 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 2: like he like he did good things in Cleveland, but 716 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: they thought that Deshaun Watson was going to be the 717 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: upgrade and they thought Baker Mayfield was damaged goods and 718 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 2: said no, no, no, we're now, We're we're where, we're finished here, 719 00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: everything's fine. And what's ironic about that is that Baker 720 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 2: Mayfield and Sam Donald's next stops were in the same place, Carolina, 721 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 2: who also is run poorly. Which is why you got 722 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 2: a lot of people going like, hey man, if you're 723 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: Bryce young, just survived through this year, and hope you 724 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: get an opportunity with an organization that can develop you 725 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: the right way. Even though I like Dave Canalis, I 726 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 2: think he's done. I just I look at the ownership, 727 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: I go that's the problem. So Darren Moogie saying, yeah, well, look, 728 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: we think Justin Fields could be the next It's like, no, 729 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald had to do that because 730 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 2: of the organizations they were in. And one of those 731 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 2: organizations they were in is the organization that you work for. 732 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 2: That's the problem. So whatever Justin Fields was decision and 733 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 2: they gave me more money, and they gave me this 734 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: and that, Like okay, but that's part of the issue. 735 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald had to get away from terrible situations. 736 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that Sam Donald is going to 737 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 2: go to Seattle and he's gonna continue to light it up, 738 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 2: like you know, one of the other guys who had 739 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 2: to go somewhere else to get an opportunity. You know, 740 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 2: one of those other guys is Geno Smith. Where'd Gino 741 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: Smith come from? 742 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 5: Oh? 743 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 3: The Jets too? 744 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: You don't say, God, guy, I feel like I feel 745 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 2: like there's a common denominator here that might be a 746 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 2: little part of the problem. Feel like there's a common 747 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 2: thread here through this whole discussion. So best of luck 748 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 2: to Justin Fields, but the situation he's in might dictate 749 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: his outcome, just like it did Sam Donald and just 750 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: like it did. Geno Smith Jonas knocks in for the 751 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 2: Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. And there are debuts 752 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: in the world of sports, and then there's this. I'll 753 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: tell you what this is next here on FSR.