1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: What's that at bed? It's spooky and you ki, I'm 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's said he's coming this way. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, half I. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Said, nyros dress as e please Hey Boomah's dress falsire. Okay, 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I got ghosted this weekend. Not positive, 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: but about ninety five percent sure. I'll tell you the 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: story in just a moment. Here's what happened. Okay, Friday, 8 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my calendar. It's Friday, It's the weekend. 9 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: I've got nothing going on. So I call up my 10 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: friend Johnny Reinhart, who's one of my closest friends, a 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: fabulous drag live singer, honestly one of the best I've 12 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: ever seen. And you should actually go follow Johnny Reinhardt 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: j O N N I E R E I N 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: H A r T amazing, amazing performer, but also amazing friend. 15 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: And you'll understand why by the end of the story. 16 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: So called Johnny and I'm like, Johnny, I got nothing 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: to do this weekend. Johnny's like, I got nothing to 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: do this weekend. So we're sitting here brainstorming what should 19 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: we do? Maybe we should go to Vegas. Maybe, Oh, 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: here's an idea. Let's go stay in a haunted hotel. 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: And so Johnny's all on board for this, and yeah, 22 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: in theory, I'm like, yeah, I want to stay in 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: a haunted hotel for my booze, for my listeners. You 24 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: guys deserve to hear my story of me saying in 25 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: a haunted hotel. I'll do it for you guys. Didn't 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think about it much. I didn't 27 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: think about the fact that I was going to be 28 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: sleeping in a room that a ghost lives in. I 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: just thought, yeah, we'll go to a haunted place. I 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: didn't realize, like, you know, I need a full eight hours. 31 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: So I find I'm searching for haunted hotels in southern California, 32 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: and I find this one in a town called Julian 33 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: and it's San Diego County. I think it took us 34 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: about an hour from San Diego, and it's this place 35 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: called the Julian gold Rush Hotel. And basically what I 36 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: read online is that it's haunted, that it's haunted by 37 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: a man named Albert Robinson. He and his wife, Margaret 38 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: were freed slaves and they actually built this well, there 39 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: was this building that was a bakery and a tavern, 40 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: and they turned it into the Hotel Robinson in eighteen 41 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: ninety seven, and then Albert died in nineteen fifteen. His 42 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: wife sold it in nineteen twenty one, and then eventually 43 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: the new owners opened up this, you know, they changed 44 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: the name and turn it into the Julian gold Rush Hotel. 45 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: So the ghost stories that I'm reading about are that 46 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: in room ten, which was his room, freshly made beds 47 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: unmake themselves. There's the impression of somebody sitting on the bed, 48 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: but there's nobody there. People often smell pipe smoke because 49 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: he loved to smoke a pipe pipe tobacco. There's cold spots, 50 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: slamming doors, windows opening and closing, and apparently Elbert is 51 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: also really you know, he likes to play jokes on 52 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: people or something like. He likes to hide people's things 53 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and put them in different parts of the hotel. And 54 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: apparently there was like another ghost we start reading about that. 55 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: At one point there was sightings of balls of fire 56 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: speeding around the hotel from the outside windows and windows breaking. 57 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: And then there was some other story we read about 58 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: there was an exorcism, and now that spirit is gone, 59 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: but now just the nice spirit who's Elbert. He's still there. 60 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure, but I'm like, this sounds great. 61 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: So we book a room and we head on down 62 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: to San Diego on Saturday. So I'm like calling the 63 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 1: place just to confirm the reservation and they're like, oh, yeah, 64 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: we'll see you Sunday, and I'm like, are you. We're 65 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: like almost in San Diego, and I'm like, damn it, 66 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm so stupid. I was so excited that I accidentally 67 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: booked the wrong day. So I'm like, great, well, we're 68 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: ready in San Diego. So let's just you know, find 69 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: a room and we'll go to other haunted places in 70 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: San Diego. So we go to the Walley House, which is, 71 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: you know, super duper popular in the paranormal world. A 72 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: lot of those TV shows have been to the Whaley House. 73 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: And we could do a whole nother episode about the 74 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: Whaley House if you haven't heard of it or been there. 75 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: But it's this house in old town San Diego, and 76 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: you know, it was not only the home of the 77 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: Whaley family, but it was also where they had the 78 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: county courthouse at one time and San Diego's first commercial theater. 79 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: There's a general store, a ballroom, a billiard hall, a school. 80 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: You know, it was a whole thing, and it's apparently 81 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: been haunted for years. The first ghost that haunted it 82 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: was named Yankee Jim James Robinson, who was convicted of 83 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: attempted grand larceny and in in eighteen fifty two he 84 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: was hanged on a gallows off the back of a 85 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: wagon on the site where the house now is. So 86 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: then when the Whalyes were living there was already haunted, 87 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: and now it's haunted by the Whaley family as well. 88 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: By there was the suicide a Violet Whaley in eighteen 89 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: eighty five. There was Anna Whaley who ps my favorite 90 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: TV show, Celebrity Ghost Stories. Regis Philbin was on and 91 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: he told the story of a time when he stayed 92 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: at the Whaley House when he was like a young reporter, 93 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: I believe, and he was did by the spirit of 94 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Anna Whaley. And then there's also Thomas Willie. There's it's 95 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: very haunted. Anyway, so we go there. We didn't realize 96 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: that it was Comic Con weekend, so it was real 97 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: tough to find a hotel room. Very much Mary and 98 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: Joseph's situation as we're looking for an end. We finally 99 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: eventually found some place, but we didn't. We didn't realize 100 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: that going in. So we go to the Whaley House. 101 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: It's a little bit busy, it's kind of a touristy destination. Unfortunately, 102 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: no paranormal activity happened that we experienced. I had been 103 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: there before and I can't remember anything happening there. Maybe 104 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: the ghosts were at Comic Con, I don't know. But 105 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: so then we go over to the hotel at Coronado, 106 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite places in the world, 107 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: and I've stayed there before and it's also haunted, they say, 108 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: but and I wanted to get a room there. But 109 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: I was like talking to a lady that worked there, 110 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: and she wasn't really sure what I was. I was 111 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: asking her about ghosts, and she was like, what now, 112 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. So I was just like, 113 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: never mine, It's fine, I'll come back some other time. 114 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: So that was the first day. So then we go 115 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: to Julian, amazing town, wonderful. Just you know, you get 116 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: off of the main freeway and you go like a 117 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: couple twenty two miles or something down this windy country 118 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: road basically until you get to this beautiful town of Julian, 119 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: and it's basically where we were saying. It's like one 120 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: street and it's kind of an old town, and there's 121 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: different restaurants and stores, and then there's a couple of 122 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: bed and breakfasts and the Julian gold Rush Hotel is 123 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the street. And so we go there. 124 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: And I want to make it very very clear that 125 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, I I'm in kind of a weird predicament 126 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: because I don't think that the business itself wants people 127 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: to talk about the ghosts so much. I mean, I 128 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: don't think they can control what people will say about 129 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: their experience, but I don't They're not the kind of 130 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: venue that's like, come on in, we've got ghosts. So 131 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: I do want to say that my experience there was amazing. 132 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: All of the employees at work there were so good. 133 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: It really felt like you're home, like they treated us 134 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: so well. There was a tea time, it was delicious 135 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: little treats and tea and coffee and just a clean place. 136 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: And I could not honestly five stars on Yelp. I 137 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: loved my experience there. However, I did know that it 138 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: was haunted because I was told by the Internet. So 139 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: we go there, we check in, we get the Haunted room, 140 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: Room ten. We requested it, they had it, and I 141 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: said to the lady is it haunted? And she said, 142 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't like talking about that stuff. And I was like, 143 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: but is it? And she was like, do you want 144 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: it to be? And I was like kinda, and she's like, 145 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: then it is. So we go up to the room. 146 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: It's very small. It's just like a bad and there's 147 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: a bathroom and there's a dresser with a mirror and 148 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: an ac unit and like a chest that you can 149 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: hang like, you know, clothing. And as soon as we 150 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: begin in the room, I'm like, okay, I feel fine, 151 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: you know. And in case you don't know this about me, 152 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a psychic. I'm not a medium, not a clairvoyant. 153 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: But I have had many experiences with knowing what it 154 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: feels like when a ghost is in the room. And 155 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have that feeling. I was just like, Okay, 156 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: this is great. Maybe the ghost isn't here. And in 157 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: the back of my mind, I'm like, I don't really 158 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: want this ghost to be here. I'm fine with it. 159 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: And Johnny, my friend that I'm with, has never had 160 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: a paranormal experience, and frankly, I don't know how much 161 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: he believes it. He believes people like me and other 162 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: friends of his that have had experiences, so you know, 163 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: he believes that that truly did happen to us, but 164 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't had it happen for himself. So, 165 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: you know, so we're just kind of in the room 166 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: and then we're like, okay, let's like, you know, go 167 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: wander around the town. And I start getting the feeling 168 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: in this little tiny room like, oh no, it feels 169 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: like there's somebody else in here that I can't see. 170 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: And so I just kind of said, listen, Albert, we 171 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: mean you no harm. Just please don't scare me whatever 172 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: you do. And as I said that, I felt a 173 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: little brush by my leg, just not a hit, nothing 174 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: like that, just like a brush. And you know, listen, 175 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: it's possible that I don't know what it was, maybe 176 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: a bug flew by it. Now I don't think that happened. 177 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just trying to rationalize because I 178 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to make it sound 179 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: like this place is a big, scary, spooky place to be. 180 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: But I did feel something on my leg and I 181 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: freaked out and I was just like, okay, I told 182 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: this goes not to scare me, and it scared me. Anyway. 183 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Maybe he is playful and having a good time, but 184 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm not so I out of the room and I 185 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: went outside, and then you know, Johnny hangs out, he 186 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: takes a shower, and for Johnny, oh he cares. He's 187 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: just like, you know what, I'm just staying in a hotel, 188 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: no big deal. As I'm like constantly on edge, and 189 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: I'm you know, in my mind, I'm thinking this place 190 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: is haunted. So that's why I say it could be 191 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: in my head, but I don't know. I'm pretty convinced. 192 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: So another thing I should mention. On our first day, 193 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: we had so much free time, and we did a 194 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: lot of research about Albert Robinson in the hotel, and 195 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: we did read a lot about how he liked to 196 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: smoke his pipe and how people smell the pipe smoke. 197 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: So we're like, you know, it'd be fun if we 198 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: went to an antique store and got a pipe and 199 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: got it for him. We can lay it out, maybe 200 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: we can get some pipe tobacco, leave it there, you know, 201 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: just sort of let him know. We're friends, we need 202 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: no harm, we don't want any problems. And so we 203 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: did get the pipe. We put it out on the dresser, 204 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: and Johnny decided that he wanted to take the pipe 205 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: with him downstairs, and like, you know, we've never used 206 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: one of those pipes before, so we want to see 207 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: what it was like. So we go down outside and 208 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I guess I don't have the pipe. 209 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: I thought I brought it with me, and so he's like, okay, 210 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: let me go back upstairs to get the pipe. And 211 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: the pipe is sitting on the top of the stairs. 212 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: Now I don't know, it's a cool Maybe he dropped 213 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: it out of his pocket. It's possible, but I said 214 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: to him, you know, did you drop it? And he goes, 215 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I would have heard that. So he 216 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: goes back upstairs and drops the pipe on the top 217 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: of the stairs, just to see if he would have 218 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: heard that sound. And he was like, I feel like 219 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: I would have heard that. That's very weird. So we 220 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: don't know what happened there. It was just a little 221 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: bit strange. But I was like, okay, maybe john is 222 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: becoming a believer. So we wandered around the town. We 223 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: come back and Johnny's reading, Oh another thing. Okay. The 224 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: lady at the front desk, as we talked about being haunted, 225 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, she said she didn't believe in this stuff. 226 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: She didn't really want to talk about it. And she 227 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: did say that there's a notebook in the dresser where 228 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: people tell their experience of staying in the hotel. So 229 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: Johnny's reading it. I'm too scared at this point, and 230 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: he's going, oh, Roszy, you don't want to read this one. Ooh, okay, yeah, 231 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to read this one either. And it's 232 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff about people, like when they're sleeping, 233 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: things happening, and everyone knows you don't mess with Role's dress, 234 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: but less when she's sleeping. Apparently this ghost has not 235 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: heard my podcast. So I'm real nervous at this point, 236 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: and I just got to get out of the room. 237 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: And so, you know, we're just we have the tea time. 238 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: It's wonderful. We do a puzzle that they had in 239 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: the lobby, and it was so much fun. We stayed up, well, 240 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: we stayed up. You know, at about seven pm. The 241 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: whole town is just a ghost town. Punintended there's nobody around. 242 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: It was also a Sunday, and so you know, it 243 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: feels like it's midnight when it's like eight pm. So 244 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: we're just like there, you know, doing a puzzle by 245 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: ourselves in the lobby, and then another employee comes by 246 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: and she does the night shift, and we're sort of like, 247 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: so is this place haunted? Like what are the stories? 248 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: And she was just like, oh, I don't know. I 249 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: don't want to She's just like, I have to be 250 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: here alone. I don't want to think about that. And 251 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: she said, she said, listen, whatever you come to this 252 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: place for, you will find it. So to me, that 253 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: means it's haunted. So I didn't have any spooky feelings 254 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: when we're in the hotel, when we're in the lobby 255 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: or anything like that. Then we go up to the 256 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: room and I was like, let's just like watch a 257 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: movie on your laptop. I'm starting to get a little uneasy, 258 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: so we put on my favorite movie that I've seen 259 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: in the past year, Second Act Stirring Jenna for Lopez 260 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: and Leah Remini, because I knew it would put me 261 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: in a good mood. So we put it on. We're 262 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: watching Second act, and I start getting that feeling as 263 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: we're sitting on we're laying on the bed in this room, 264 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: must start feeling like, ooh, someone else is here. I 265 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: don't like that because I knew bedtime was soon, and 266 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: then the feeling would go away, and that would come 267 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: back and go away, and I was like, Okay, it's 268 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: time for bed because I start getting tired. And again, 269 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: Johnny's just like, we're in a hotel room. I'm gonna 270 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: go to bed at a reasonable hour and so. And 271 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: he's someone that can just sleep like a rock, no 272 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: big deal. But I'm like, well, if I'm going to 273 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: bed here, the lights are staying on. And he's just 274 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: like being a real good friend about it, just like okay, fine, whatever. 275 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: So we got the AC blasting. I'm genuinely sleepy and 276 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm dozing off. He's dozing off, And every once in 277 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: a while we'll kind of check in on each other, 278 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: just everything good, you fine, okay. And the AC's blasting, 279 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: so you can't really hear much, but every once in 280 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: a while, you know, I hear somebody walk through the 281 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: hallway and I just go and then you know, everything's fine, 282 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: and I get so scared at this point that I'm 283 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: just like, I'm pulling the covers over my head, which 284 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: is something I've never really done. You know, I've talked 285 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: to many people on this podcast that say, yeah, I 286 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: put the covers over the head. What does that do well? 287 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: At least maybe it blocks out some of the sound. 288 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: So I put the covers over my head, and it's 289 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: so hot underneath these covers, and especially with my breathing, 290 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: I can barely breathe and it's hot. But I'm like, 291 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how else I'm gonna get through this night. 292 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: And I'm dozing off and I kind of feel like 293 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: the blankets because you know, the blankets are straight up 294 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: tucked underneath the top of my head, and I start 295 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: feeling them kind of like get pulled back just a 296 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: little bit, like just lifted. And it's so cold in 297 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the room because of the ac that my head starts 298 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: getting cold as I'm like sweating underneath these blankets. I'm like, oh, 299 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: that feels nice. So I kind of pulled the blanket 300 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: off to be like, yeah, Johnny, I'm fine, And Johnny 301 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: is passed out with his back toward me. He's there's 302 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: no way that he was lifting up those covers. Now, 303 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: is it possible that maybe the covers were, like you know, 304 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: they just naturally came off me, or maybe maybe Johnny 305 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: moved and it made them come up. That is possible, 306 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: but either way, it freaked me the fuck out. And 307 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: I said, nope, I'm out of here, cause it's two 308 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: am at this point and breakfast wasn't until eight am, 309 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: and there was no way that I'm going to be 310 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: sticking around for six hours thinking that a ghost is 311 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: what's that at the foot of mine bed. I'm not 312 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: doing that. It's just a cute little song. It's not 313 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: my real life. So I said, Johnny, listen, I'm sorry 314 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: to wake you up, but I can't do this. I mean, 315 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: this place is lovely, but I'm pretty sure there's a 316 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: ghost here, and I'm sure it's a nice ghost, but 317 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: I can't. I just can't. I got I got enough 318 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: of a story to tell my listeners. I'm not sticking 319 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: around much longer. So I told Johnny, listen, you can 320 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: stay here all night. I'll go I'll go back to 321 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: San Diego and I'll come pick you up and we'll 322 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: do breakfast together. But I'm leaving, and He's like, well, 323 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: if you're leaving, then I'm leaving. So we got in 324 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: the car and we drove back to LA and we 325 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: hit a little bit of traffic around five am and 326 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: got home about six six thirty something like that. It 327 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: was so dramatic. I literally just like left the keys 328 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: at the front desk. There was nobody there, and I 329 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: was just like, we're out of here. We packed up 330 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: and left. So again, I don't want to, you know, 331 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: I feel that my listeners like this kind of stuff 332 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: and if anything, this might make you want to go 333 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: stay there. So I'm just not trying to to, you know, 334 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: further any bad publicity for the for the hotel or anything, 335 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: because I didn't feel that way at all. And again 336 00:18:58,359 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it could have been in 337 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: my head. I don't know, but it felt real real 338 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: to me. Was that ghosted. Let's go on with the show. 339 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm joined by one of my bestest friends in the 340 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: entire world. She's an actress. She's been seen on The 341 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: Mindy Project and a guest book on TBS and many 342 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: an indie film, and she's the lead singer of the 343 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: band Color TV, which is just a powerhouse of a 344 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: power pop band in Los Angeles. 345 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: Tipper now is I thank you, thank you wild thanks 346 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: for the intro. 347 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I love what I say. Your name Tipper 348 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Newton Newton, Yeah, new Tim, Hi, Tipper, Hi raz I'm 349 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: so happy you're here. 350 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 351 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: I wanted you to be on this since the beginning 352 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: of time, but you hadn't really had any ghostly experiences. 353 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: That's true, unfortunately. 354 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: But then enter me, and I will be the one 355 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: to bring him out in you like. 356 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: The gates a hell just opened right up. 357 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: Because, as we all know, ghosts loved me. So the 358 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: other day you invited me to go to a seance 359 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: and the ghosts came out to play. 360 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 2: It's true they were there. We now, I think we 361 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: do have to say, like we can't fully talk about. 362 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: I know it's very interesting, the scenario, the uh. 363 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: What supernatural entertainer? What was paranormal entertainer that hosted the 364 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: seance likes to keep very under wraps. 365 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't. He does not want us to publicize it. 366 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: We don't know why necessarily, but you know, he seems 367 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: like a very sweet guy. Yeah, and he you know, 368 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: it's just a little side business or I don't even 369 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: know if it's necessarily a business, maybe a side hobby 370 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: something that he does for fun where he likes to 371 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: reenact Victorian's style seances, and he's also a historian of it. 372 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: And he was telling us about, you know how various 373 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: times in history, like after the Civil War, it was 374 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: really a popular thing for people to hire someone a 375 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: medium or somebody to lead a seance, and they would 376 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: sometimes do a little bit of trickery to make it 377 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: seem like the dead loved one of a family was 378 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: still present and still making contact with it as a 379 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: therapeutic thing, you know, it was something that was meant 380 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: to be a good thing for these people that were grieving. 381 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: So we're not fully sure how much was real and 382 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: how much it was. And he did warn us that, 383 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: he was like, you know, a lot of this is 384 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: going to be entertainment. But he said, I'll do a 385 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: couple of little tricks that might jump start the activity. 386 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: Some creepy stuff, other stuff might happen. 387 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's like, what I do gets people gets 388 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: the spirits. It's you know, warmed up, gives them a 389 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: little poke and then really gets them going, really gets 390 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: some going. And so what we did was Okay, you 391 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: invited me to the sands your friend's. 392 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: Store, yeah, which we can say their store. Oh yeah, 393 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: let's give them a bit called Kids Jewelry Heist in 394 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: South Pasadena. 395 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: I love that place. It is the coolest. The decor 396 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: is amazing. 397 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, they really invested time in the visual of the store. 398 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: I know, like all the details, so many choch keys, 399 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: choch keys as far as the eye can see. And 400 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: they make jewelry and you can like go there if 401 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: you have like a birthday party and you want to 402 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: have a fun little jewelry making session. Kids is the 403 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: place to go. 404 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was a good setting for this. 405 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: They had also had paranormal activity. 406 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. They had said, like I think the main thing 407 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: was like the late at night there was like there's 408 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 2: a toy store in the front of the store and 409 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: then in the back is the jewelry parlor. And they said, 410 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: like people would complain like there's a young child dancing 411 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: with a toy in the window at like night. 412 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: They said that late at night. One night they're staying around, 413 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, doing some administrative work or whatever you do 414 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: when you own a business, and the cops knock on 415 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: the door, and the cops are like, hey, We've had 416 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: multiple reports that there's a little girl dancing in the window. 417 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: With a toy. 418 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: With a toy. Now that's spooky. Yeah, And so you 419 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: know they're probably just checking in who's this little girl, 420 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: where's her parents? And they're like, you can look around 421 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: and there's nobody. 422 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: There because it was closed. And supposedly this this little 423 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: girl's name is. 424 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: Sally, right, so we think Sally might be there, and 425 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: she might have been a part of this sound. 426 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: We were trying to contact her in this sounds. Yeah. 427 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: There was also another story of the place almost burning down. 428 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: Do you remember that, Yeah, where one of the guys 429 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: was there late at night and something kept like drawing 430 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: him back to stay, and he was just like cleaning 431 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: things or working on odd jobs. And every time he 432 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: was like, well i'll go now, I'll go home, something 433 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 2: would be like, no, I think I'll stay. And then 434 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: he felt like a presence sit down next to him. 435 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: And then again right before he was gonna go, he 436 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: like looked in the break room and like a toaster 437 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: had like a plate on it and it was like 438 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: a paper plate that was like burning red embers. Yeah, 439 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: so it's like the place would have burned down. 440 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: Yes, and during the sounds, we asked, Sally, were you 441 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: the one that was trying to save it, you know, 442 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: were you trying to save this place from burning down? 443 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: She says yes, she did say yes. 444 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 445 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: So we do this seance and the first thing we 446 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: did was a letter board, which is very similar to 447 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: a wigi board, where he had a table with a 448 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: bunch of scrabble letters yeah I think the full alpha 449 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: bit Yeah, around you know, around the outside of the 450 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: the outside rim of the of the table, and then 451 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: a couple of people would put their hand on it 452 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: a cup that was upside down and then move it 453 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: around to each letter to spell something out. And I 454 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: remember one thing that he said that honestly, sadly, I've 455 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: never heard this, but of course, I mean, it is 456 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: a true thing, but I just never heard it. I 457 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: don't know why, but he said, it's very important that 458 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: when you do wigi boards or these kind of things, 459 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: that everybody lifts their hands at. 460 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: The right time, because you don't want to of the energy. 461 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: I think he was so Yeah, we didn't really get 462 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: there were words hidden in words. We didn't really get 463 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: a message. 464 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 465 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: It was more like. 466 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah like. 467 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 2: Or something like yeah, and then maybe you would be like, wait, 468 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: but the word by is in between these other words, 469 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: these other letters. 470 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: Well listen, if it was a little Sally, she might 471 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: not know how to spell yet. 472 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: That's true. We don't know how old she was. 473 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know who would be great at doing 474 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: a seance or a letter board like that is Vana White. 475 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the way it was moving to each letter. Yeah, 476 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: it was like give me an a give me a beat, 477 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: like yeah, or a cheerleading team. Yeah. 478 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: Basically anybody who yells out spells, yeah, words would be great. 479 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. So we did that, and then he also gave 480 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: us all these meters you know those meters that yeah. 481 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: That read the energy of the room. I think that what. 482 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: I know. I'm not a ghost hunter. 483 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: But those were going off the charts like they were 484 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: asking questions and sometimes they were screaming. 485 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: And the weird thing was I was holding one very 486 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: much to myself. Yeah, I mean I was like not 487 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: about remember. 488 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: It was like you know what, you know, hand it over, 489 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: give someone else a shot. 490 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: And I'm just like looking at it, like not letting 491 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: anyone else see. But as everyone would be like, oh, 492 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: mine just lit up. Mine lit up too, and I 493 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: wasn't even like trying to be like yeah, mine did too, yeah, totally, yeah, yeah, 494 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: I want to be like everyone else, Like no, mine 495 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: like literally lit up. 496 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: So and there was like bells placed all over the room. 497 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: Okay, well that's we're going to get to that. Yeah, 498 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: well that's when we got is that the second Oh 499 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: we also the first thing we did was pendulums. 500 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was fun. Mine was moving. I mean 501 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 2: I made mine move with my mind. 502 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so a pendulum, you know, he was telling 503 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: us you could make one out of anything really, but 504 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: essentially what it is is like a chain with a 505 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: crystal at the end, and you hold it out you 506 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: ask a question. If it goes frontward back and forth, 507 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: then that means yes. If it goes right to laugh 508 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: or you know, sideways back and forth, that means no. 509 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: And it was happening, and I guess he was kind 510 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: of explaining how like sub consciously you're moving it even 511 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 2: though yes, it doesn't. It looks like your hand is 512 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: completely still. 513 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. He called it the idio motor effect or something 514 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: like something like that. Yeah that you know it's because 515 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: he is the man was also a skeptic at heart, 516 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: and so he was telling us that, yeah, ideo motor, 517 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: you know that that's a lot of what moving around 518 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: Luigi is. You know, it's it's like a subconscious vibration 519 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 1: in your body that can you can make something happen. 520 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was cool because like my hand was 521 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: totally still and I'm pretty sure I moved the pendulum 522 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: with my mind. 523 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: I know, and mine like I'm naturally sitting there like 524 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: do you think this look is cute on me? And 525 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: then it was like yes. And then I'm like you. 526 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: Could like relax the rest of the night, I know, yeah. 527 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like does my ass look fast 528 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: in these jeans? And it was like no, And I'm like, oh, okay, Yeah, 529 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: so I felt good the pendulum, I mean, Sally was 530 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: she was telling it like it was yeah and okay. 531 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: So then we go do the seance, the big enchilada. 532 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're sitting, We're sitting around a circle. Okay, the 533 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: lights are low, it's quiet, set the mood, set the mood. 534 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: Two candles are lit, bells are placed all around the table. 535 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: Yes, and there were twelve of us and I think 536 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: only nine people could fit at the table. Something like that. 537 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sounds big table, a beautiful table, sturdy table, sturdy, 538 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: and so we're all holding hands and he played a 539 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 3: very spooky incantation recording. 540 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: It was like imagine it was like straight up Exorcist. Like, yeah, 541 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: the voice it was deep in booming and like echo 542 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: wee and. 543 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: Like and apparently it was a way to summon spirits. 544 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: It was. It was exactly what you would want to hear. Yeah, 545 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: in that situation. I feel like sometimes people might play 546 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: those recordings and you're like, well, this isn't really that scary. 547 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: This was spooky. 548 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: It was spooky. It was straight up evil dad. Yeah, 549 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: like I was. There was a moment for sure when 550 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I was like, Okay, this 551 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: is this is my horror movie. And I don't know 552 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: any of these people, and I don't know if this 553 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: man is summoning demons right now. I don't know what's happening. 554 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm. 555 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: Gonna go along with it. So we're holding hands and 556 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: not much is happening. We're just kind of asking questions, 557 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: and you know, everyone's while we'd ask a question, everyone's 558 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: meter would go, you know, either all the way once 559 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: for yes or twice for no. And we would ask, 560 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, natural questions like why am I still single? No, 561 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: we would ask like what would we ask like Sally 562 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: are you here? Right? 563 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: Sally? Did you die here? 564 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? Sally? 565 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: Did you? Are you happy here? 566 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: She didn't want to offer much information about her death or. 567 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: No, and she honestly she was very positive, like in 568 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: I almost would have liked a little more negativity for 569 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: the spooky factor, Like I wish she almost had died 570 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: there because it would have made it creepier. 571 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's a toy store. Maybe she just liked the toys. 572 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean, she's dancing in the window for goodness sake. 573 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: Well, he also had a couple of haunted objects. 574 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, which I don't know if we can I don't know. 575 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: We were saying, we don't know how much we're supposed 576 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: to talk about this. Can we even say what the 577 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: haunted objects were? 578 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: Let's not but they were haunted objects. 579 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: There were haunted objects. 580 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: And so he you know, essentially what we were trying 581 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: to do was just contact a spirit of some sort. 582 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: So he's like, listen, if Sally's not here, I got 583 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: my old Faithful's in the corner, like these these are 584 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: this is going to bring someone someone's going to come through. 585 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 586 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: So then things start getting a little crazy because he 587 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: pulls out, well, we've got this bell on the table. 588 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of bells around the room. 589 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: And he tells us that one of his haunted objects 590 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: is attached to a spirit, and we will protect the 591 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: name of the spirit. Spirit. 592 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: All names have been changed. Sally's the real name. 593 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: That Sally is. But this one's name is Stephanie. And 594 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: that is that a good name. 595 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of long, and Sally starts within us, just. 596 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: Got it, okay, So this is Tiffany. This is just 597 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: as long. Okay. So Tiffany, Tiffany the spirit is. He 598 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: tells us that, you know, she likes to use the bell, 599 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: so we try to summon up Tiffany. 600 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: Oh wait, can I mention something I won't go into specifics. Okay, 601 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: he did say that Tiffany enjoyed pain, and so he 602 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: did hurt himself to get Tiffany to Pierre, Yes, that's true. 603 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't know I was gonna leave, but yeah, you're right, 604 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't. 605 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't have said that. 606 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: No, it's fine. 607 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: That was actually like one of the best parts. 608 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: It was. It was a very entertaining part. He was like, 609 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hurt myself. And as soon as he like 610 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: did the thing to hurt himself, yea, the bell just 611 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: and the bell like physically like rang. 612 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you could see it. And let me tell you people, 613 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: there was not attached to any strings that I saw. 614 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: The bell you could move to. I could go and 615 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: move the bell if I wanted to. Totally table it 616 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: doesn't move. Yeah, and that table belongs to the story. 617 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so he didn't. He didn't you know, there 618 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: was no wires that he drilled a hole through the 619 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: table like, it wasn't like that. Yeah, I mean I 620 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: was a little bit skeptical at first, but then I 621 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: was like, there was definitely a moment where his hands 622 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: he was holding hands in the circle, the bell was ringing, 623 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: the meters were going off, and there was a pendulum 624 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: that was hanging on a dresser that was like moving, 625 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: And I'm like, Okay, there might be like a little 626 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: lever on one of his toes that he could do this, 627 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: But I'm like, unless he's got some kind of device 628 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: in his butt cheeks, there's no way that all this 629 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: shit is going down. Or maybe he had somebody waiting outside. 630 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: But he was like, I don't. 631 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: Walking around like, I don't know where the device would 632 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: have been. I don't accept in his butt cheeks. 633 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: Now that's the real mystery that we need to get 634 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: to the bottom. But even what kind of device could 635 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: that be? Like some little machine with a button that 636 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: he had precise butt cheek, you know, pull that he 637 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: could just he could just squeeze his butt cheek perfectly 638 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: to move. Now I'm going to move the pendulum. Now 639 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna squeeze a little bit to the list, I'm 640 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: gonna move the bell. Like I don't know about. 641 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 2: That that that's talent. 642 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: But we definitely had like what about two hours of 643 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: contact long time. It was a late night and we 644 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: we were it was interesting because Sally would use the 645 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: meters and Tiffany would use the the bell. Yeah, and 646 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: so we had a lot of contact. I would say, 647 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: I would say we felt like we were having conversations. 648 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: But then it got to a point where he was like, Okay, 649 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is Yes. 650 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: There's a spirit here that I they're like pretending to 651 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: be Tiffany, and I think we need to stop this 652 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: right now because it's about to get dark, something's going down, 653 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: and I was hoping. I was like, no, keep the 654 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: bad ghost around. Let's see what happened. 655 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: Wow, yes, uh huh so yeah, and then we pretty 656 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: much end it, and he did like a nice little 657 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: ceremony to clean out any negative energy. And that was 658 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: our possibly real, possibly not seance, but I choose to 659 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: believe that a lot of it was real. Yeah. 660 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 2: Regardless, I had a great time. 661 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: I had a wonderful time. 662 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 663 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: So you have never had a ghost experience of your 664 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: own other than that, right, No. 665 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: The the closest thing, the two closest things I would 666 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 2: say is one time I had a dream which maybe 667 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: or maybe not was a dream. Actually, okay, I was 668 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: in bed, my eyes opened, the lights were on, there 669 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: was a man in the doorway, and he said get 670 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: out of my house. And then that was it. That's 671 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 2: all that happened. 672 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: But your lights were on as you were you just 673 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: taking a nap. 674 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: That's why I was saying it was like a dream 675 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: because I had gone to bed. 676 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 677 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 2: And in the dream, my eyes opened in the bedroom 678 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: didn't look any different except for the lights were on 679 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: and there was a man in the doorway. 680 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: Is this where you currently live. 681 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've never had like, I've never had any 682 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: weird feelings or anything before or since then. So maybe 683 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: it was just a dream. Maybe I wanted something so bad. 684 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: Just wanted a ghost experience. 685 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I do. I like. I have 686 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: some friends who told me their things that have happened, 687 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 2: which they I checked with them. They said, I could 688 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 2: tell you, Oh, they have been approved. 689 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: Okay, what are they? Oh? 690 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: I had a friend who lived with her sister an 691 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: apartment in Los Angeles, and my friend, I think this 692 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: happened like two or three times when she was sitting 693 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: on the couch, out of the corner of her eye, 694 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 2: she saw a girl crying. Now, she didn't tell her 695 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: sister this because she didn't want to freak out her sister. 696 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: But did she hear the girl? 697 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 2: I asked her. She said no, just saw the girl crying, 698 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 2: but only out of the corner of her eye. 699 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so how can she tell she was crying? I 700 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: don't know. 701 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just one of those things like you know, 702 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: you just know the feeling or sadness. Yeah, I think 703 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: that was probably it. So she never told her sister 704 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: because she didn't want to scare her sister. You know, 705 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 2: they eventually moved out of that apartment, and she finally 706 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 2: brought it up to her sister that she'd seen this girl, 707 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 2: and her sister goes, I saw that girl crying in 708 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: the hallway, and I didn't tell you because I didn't 709 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 2: want to freak you out. 710 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: Who's the girl? 711 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know, and I wonder, 712 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if she ever looked into the apartment 713 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: building or whatever. I should find out because I want 714 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 2: to know. 715 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 1: Oh, what a scary ghost. 716 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's scary. Like I don't think I tried 717 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 2: to hurt them or anything at all. Like I don't 718 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 2: want to see that. 719 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I do want to see that 720 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 1: A live girl crying. No, not in my house especially no. 721 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: Oh. And then one of my best friends from high school, 722 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 2: she shared a room with her sister. This is all 723 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: about sisters. 724 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: The moral of the story sisters. 725 00:39:54,160 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: And she was sleeping usually they would sleep with like, uh, 726 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 2: maybe a light on or maybe not a light on, 727 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: And she woke up and there was like a light 728 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: on and she saw somebody in the hallway. 729 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: And she likes she sleeps with the door open. 730 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big mistake. 731 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: Big mistake. Do you sleep with the door open? No? Me, neither. 732 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 2: Closed doors and closets dead. 733 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: Bolt bolted, Yeah, totally. You put all your luggage under 734 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 1: the bed, just in case so that nothing can reach 735 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: out and grab you. No, which ps the haunted been 736 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: and breakfast that I just stayed in allegedly haunted. The 737 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: bed was like high. 738 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: Up, a lot of space underneath. 739 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: No, so like you better believe. I like did a 740 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: quick little run and jump to get on the bed 741 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: each time. 742 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, but oh so she saw the door was open, 743 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 2: saw somebody in the hallway she thought was her dad 744 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 2: or something, and then they kind of like got close her, 745 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 2: and she was like, oh, they're see through. And then 746 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: I know it's gonna sound real out there. As they 747 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: got closer, she realized it was Abraham Lincoln. 748 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: The Abraham Lincoln. Yes. 749 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: And the penny yes, the one on the penny, the 750 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: five dollar bill, that's him. Okay, got closer, came all 751 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 2: the way up to her face, smiled, and then like disappeared. 752 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 2: Now she didn't bring this up to her sister or 753 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 2: anybody because she was like, that could have been dream whatever. 754 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 2: Years later, she told her sister the story and her 755 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: sister goes, you know, I thought I saw him in 756 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 2: our closet once, Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, which is like, maybe 757 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 2: it was just it. Maybe it was just a guy 758 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 2: who looked like him. 759 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: You know that the two of us, one of our 760 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: favorite things is celebrity impersonators. Oh yeah, we love liberty impersonators, 761 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: and we love to go to celebrity impersonator websites and 762 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: look at all the celebrity lookalikes. Maybe it was a 763 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: celebrity you look alike that lived there in that house 764 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: at one point. And you know, he was just looking 765 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,959 Speaker 1: for gigs. I mean, there's not a ton of work 766 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: when you're an Abraham Lincoln in person. I mean I 767 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: assume that there are some you know, President's Day, you're 768 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: probably busy, you know this July, you know, mattress store openings, 769 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: like you know, Memorial Day or whatever. But yeah, maybe 770 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: he was just looking for gigs. He just wanted to 771 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: be seen. He's like, you, guys, I agree with this beard, 772 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: Like hire me, hire me, I'll even perform in a closet. 773 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: That's spooky. Yeah, didn't something happen to your to your ma'am. 774 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when he was little. He lived in the 775 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: garage apartment on this property. There was like a main 776 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: apartment and then the garage and him and his mom 777 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 2: lived in the garage apartment in Florida. In Florida, so 778 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: and then there was they had a yard, and then 779 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 2: at the very end of the property was another house 780 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: that I think was empty at the time. So, you know, 781 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 2: he was the kid. He was like playing around and 782 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 2: he went to that back house and on the backside 783 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 2: of the house there was like a small strip of 784 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 2: land and then there was the fence to the property, 785 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 2: and then beyond the fence was just like trees and junk. 786 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: So he was like playing in that small strip of 787 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: land that was between the back of the house and 788 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 2: the fence, and then he heard like a branch snap 789 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 2: and he looked and there was this deflated basketball in 790 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: the yard and suddenly it just like exploded in flames. 791 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: Weird. 792 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: And then he found out later that some guy who 793 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: lived in that back house had gone in that strip 794 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 2: of land and killed himself. 795 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, that's really spooky. And also a branch snapping. 796 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: Because another thing I'm obsessed with is Foley artists. Oh, 797 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: the people that do the sound effects on movies in 798 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: post production, and that's a lot of times what they 799 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: use for bones breaking. I didn't know that, so it 800 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: could have been a bone break. It sounds the exact same. 801 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: WHOA Do you want to hear some ghost voices? 802 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 803 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: All right, it's time for EVP or ev plase sensual 804 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, I know, Sorry, I got a little sexy there. 805 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: Do you know what an ev P is? Yeah, electronic 806 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: voice phenomenon. So I go to YouTube. I find real 807 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: paranormal investigators, uh, footage or recordings that they've caught of ghosts, 808 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: and I want you to guess what they believe this 809 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: ghost is saying. Now, I know that you're from Nebraska. Yeah, 810 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: and so I found a couple of Nebraska ghosts. Oh cool, 811 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: This first one is from Omaha Paranormal. Aren't you from Omaha? 812 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, shout out, shut out? 813 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: What's uptowntown? Ohtown? The band? Are they from Orlando? Oh? 814 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: There's another hotel. This is at the Squirrel Cage Jail. 815 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 2: That's Can I just say something that's actually in Council Bluffs, Iowa. Oh, 816 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 2: but this is Omaha Paranormal investigated it? Yeah, which is 817 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 2: Council Bus is basically Nebraska. 818 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do the whole area. They're they're branching out, honey. 819 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: Okay, that's great. 820 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So tell me what you think this ghost 821 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: is saying. Now, I think that there's some humans talking 822 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: in the background. But it's like, oh. 823 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that scream. 824 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: Dang, what's your time? 825 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: It sounds like he's saying, oh, is. 826 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: It A let her go? B? I don't know c 827 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: now or D I want pinto? You know, like when 828 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: you go to Chipotle they say black or panto. 829 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 2: And so they were saying pinto, let her go, I 830 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 2: don't know. 831 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: Yes, it's I don't know. God. Here, let's try another one. 832 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: This is from Simion Paranormal. It says that they did 833 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: overnight at the Elk City Cemetery in Elk City, Nebraska. Yeah, 834 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: tell me this one. Oh yeahs there's some like I 835 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: hear music the traumatic piano in the edit that's playing underneath. 836 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 837 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 2: It sounds like they're saying, don't let go. 838 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: Oh interesting you say that? Is it A I don't 839 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 1: even know? B. I love piano because there's piano playing. Yeah, 840 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: see don't let go? Oh A d oh, don't you 841 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: know that's what I did? People talk like that Nebraska. 842 00:47:55,080 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: That's what I think. That sounds like, Yeah, Fargo, I 843 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: didn't know. I don't know. It's totally don't let go. 844 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 2: It almost sounds romantic, honestly. 845 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: Oh, it's like it's like Titanic. 846 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's just a clip from Titanic. They 847 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 2: like put some piano over, like roughed it up a bit, but. 848 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: Don't let go. Ps The piano is like kind of 849 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: put me in the romantic mood. Okay, that's it. Well 850 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: that's all. What do you got going on anything? 851 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 2: I don't have anything to plug hopefully, but you know, 852 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: just keep your eye out, cause a lot next year later. 853 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,439 Speaker 2: Oh I got a lot. 854 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 855 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 2: I mean I'm just telling you I can't talk about it. Yeah, 856 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: that's what I'll say. 857 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're also one of those people. I've very 858 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: few friends like this in Los Angeles that are just like, oh, yeah, 859 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: like I just did this thing, and it's like, oh, 860 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: you did a full season of a TV show that 861 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: thing that you did, So I don't trust that you probably, 862 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have a billion things going on right now. 863 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 1: But we'll see. 864 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 2: We'll don't go. What was the other one? I know 865 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 2: there I'm you did too. 866 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: Let go? Yeah, isn't that like the movie Frozen? 867 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 2: Let it Go? 868 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: Let it go? 869 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: This is like, don't let go? 870 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they watched Frozen. They're like no, no, no, no no 871 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no. Well that 872 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: was my week in a nutshell. That's the most paranormal 873 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: investigating type stuff that I've done in a very long 874 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: time in one week. So I hope you enjoyed that. 875 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,280 Speaker 1: H shout out to both of my dear friends Johnny 876 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 1: Reinhart and Tipper Newton for being great sports and especially 877 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: Boor Johnny. I feel so bad for him. He didn't 878 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: even get to sleep that night, but we survived. And 879 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: thank you so much to being so accommodating the Julian 880 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: Goldrush Hotel. I really enjoyed my stay. I'm just a 881 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: crazy nutcase that can't deal with ghosts. So thank you 882 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: all for listening. I love you guys so much. Please 883 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: join our Facebook group. I actually have a very funny 884 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: episode coming up with my dear friend Laganja Estroanja from 885 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: RuPaul's Drag Race, and we are reading a bunch of 886 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: ghost stories and that'll be dropping real soon, so look 887 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: out for that. You can always put the ghost stories 888 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: in the Facebook group called Ghosted by Ross dress Fales, 889 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: or you can, you know, like the page. We also 890 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: have a page Ghosted by Roz dress Fales on Facebook. 891 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: I am on Facebook, I'm well, I have a Facebook 892 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: page Role's Dress Fales. But I also I'm on Instagram. 893 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: At Ra's Dress Fales helped me become Instagram famous, and 894 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: actually I'm going to start doing cameo soon, I guess. 895 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 1: So if you want to a personalized message of me 896 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: saying something to you, look out for that. I'm sure 897 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: I'll post about it on my social media whenever I 898 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: get that finally up and rolling. And please leave a 899 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,759 Speaker 1: five star review, five star rating on Apple Podcasts, and 900 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: you can leave a ghost story or just something really 901 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,919 Speaker 1: nice to say about the show in your five star 902 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: review on Apple Podcasts, and maybe I'll read it on 903 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,320 Speaker 1: the show. I don't know. Have you got on my Instagram, 904 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: I'll have all the shows coming up there where you 905 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: can see me live and in person. And yeah, I'm 906 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: so I'm so happy that you guys are listening and 907 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: liking the show. So I love you all, both living 908 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, 909 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: don't haunt me. 910 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 2: Okay, bye. 911 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: Star bands. There a podcast network,