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Speaker 1: We all know in this room that whatever you write

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Speaker 1: on the Internet lives forever. Like back in twenty eleven

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Speaker 1: when Brooke posted on her Facebook, there isn't a more

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Speaker 1: accomplished and respected journalist on Earth than the Today Shows

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Speaker 1: Matt Lower.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to ask if she still feels

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Speaker 1: She did. But ever, the only reason I bring it

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Speaker 1: what she sent, and now she's desperate hoping to get

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Speaker 1: some closure. We're going to try and help her do

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Speaker 1: that when we do a closure call right after this.

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Speaker 1: It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. And do you

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Speaker 1: a stranger that you met once and thought, huh is

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well, another jagerbomb? Please?

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever thought that, Jeff really, because.

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Speaker 1: I would think for the people in this room the

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Speaker 1: answer is almost definitely yes.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we're just not self aware enough.

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Speaker 1: Told is that the problem who ever met us is

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Speaker 1: probably worse off for it. But one of our listeners, Courtney,

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Speaker 2: Hi guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Just gut feeling right now. Are you a bad person?

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Speaker 2: It keeps me up at night?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's very self aware of you.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that people, Jeff, people that just make bad choices.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Courtney, you're a bad choice person.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe not, we don't know yet. Jerry still out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, well you're losing sleep.

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Speaker 1: So bombs after we hear your story. But go ahead

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Speaker 1: and tell us why you emailed the show for help.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let me take you back to years ago.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to this guy online. And this was

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Speaker 3: You know, it was still kind of a weird thing

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Speaker 1: The Wild West of online dating.

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Speaker 3: Only the desperate people did it at that time. Right

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Speaker 2: So I'm at this guy and we started this online relationship. Okay, nice,

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Speaker 2: so he lived kind of far away from each other.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and I mean three hours sucks, but it's doable.

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Speaker 2: So one night I decided to google his name and

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Speaker 1: Sure it was him, Like it wasn't a guy with

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Speaker 2: You know, at that point, I wasn't even sure what

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Speaker 1: Cartney, that's always a choice. Remember she started this by

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Speaker 2: I ended up opting for emailing his fiance and I

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Speaker 4: Honestly, you'd have to because nobody would believe you. I

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Speaker 1: Oh, I've known of people that try to say, listen,

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Speaker 2: So it was actually really brief and literally all it

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Speaker 4: Would you expect her to say, like, hey, girly, thanks, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a question, did you ever tell him? Did

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Speaker 2: Like No, I was just like, you know what, he's

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, who do you not have closure with?

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, I never found out what happened.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a chance that you could have completely

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Speaker 3: No, no, he ruined the couple relationship. She didn't.

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Speaker 1: It would never have been ruined if she hadn't sent

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Speaker 3: It's never been voted. If he didn't cheat people explain

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Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know what got him eventually, I mean, so,

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 2: I found the girl on Instagram, but it's such a

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Speaker 2: I did, you know. I did the screenshot and then

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Speaker 2: what it was. It's literally her holding a baby, And

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Speaker 3: It's oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, wait, how many years ago was this again?

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Speaker 2: It was like over a decade ago.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, this is tricky. We're gonna punt her.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do best. So, Courtney, you worked with

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Speaker 1: over a decade ago. She wrote back, Oh, she did,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. Okay, okay, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna find out once and for all.

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Speaker 1: Are you a bad person when we do your closure

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Speaker 1: our listener, Courtney, because over a decade ago, she met

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean that was it day she didn't

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Speaker 4: I mean, the fiance didn't owe her anything, right, And

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Speaker 1: And the not knowing has bugged Courtney all these years.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm really nervous and excited, and it's I don't

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Speaker 3: I'm worried that she just responded with a restraining order.

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Speaker 1: your first question. Okay, the first one we sent was

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Speaker 1: when I contacted you eleven years ago. I was scared

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Speaker 1: and I've always been curious. What did you end up doing?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Did you marry him? Did you break up with him?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: And so this girl wrote back, Wow, yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: definitely say your message changed my life. WHOA I confronted

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Speaker 3: Well, was it kind of obvious?

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Speaker 1: Well maybe he was doing it with a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, some much nicer words than I would have used.

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Speaker 1: So we called off the wedding.

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Speaker 3: Oh they did?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but didn't you expect that, Courtney?

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Speaker 1: She says, Oh god. But a few months later we

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Speaker 2: Like how you called off your wedding with this person.

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Speaker 2: You let everyone know he's a cheater, and then you

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Speaker 1: Did to get everyone back together.

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Speaker 3: You put the work in man and it could happen.

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Speaker 1: Cortney, are you one of those people who believes once

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even about the cheating, it's about

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Speaker 1: At least you made him pay for two different weddings.

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Speaker 1: So that's one to the second question. And remember we're

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Speaker 3: Maybe you shouldn't have got married.

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Speaker 1: That's a healthy relationship. If I talk to the couple,

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Speaker 1: She says, to my surprise, there was no infidelity parentheses,

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Speaker 2: Admit this woman is stupid.

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Speaker 1: She says, I'm ashamed to admit started an affair with him.

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Speaker 1: I never thought. I never meant for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: It just did drama. This lady falls in love with

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Speaker 3: Could be better for her.

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Speaker 1: Thought, look what you did to this woman's life.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm angry right now.

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Speaker 1: Wait, you're angry.

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Speaker 3: You're not happy that she finally fell in love with

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Speaker 2: I spent ten years of my life thinking about this woman,

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Speaker 3: I mean, relationships are complicated. Nothing's black again, everyone, I

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Speaker 4: That, but I think that like, it doesn't make you

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, let's agree to disagree on that one. We

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Speaker 1: sent them an email saying, your Beyonce has been talking

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Speaker 3: Would you already knew because you looked at her Instagram profile.

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Speaker 1: Well, we didn't know if that was her kid. It

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Speaker 3: Ago, which was a terrible relationship. We can all agree

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Speaker 1: She says, Yeah, I feel safe now, and even though

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Speaker 2: I don't feel warm and fuzzy.

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Speaker 1: About that really, like other options? Did you want her

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Speaker 2: No, that's good question. You know what I thought about

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Speaker 4: That would have been a good way she got to

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Speaker 3: It just was maybe a more crooked line than you expected.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you never know, coordinating things could not work

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Speaker 1: and maybe that would make you.

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Speaker 2: That they won't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, she keeps going. She says, So, I really

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Speaker 1: Everything happens for a reason. I never would have found

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Speaker 2: Honest, lady, that's a little cute.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she gave you a little praise there. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: question we sent was do you have any advice for

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Speaker 3: Great we're asking her for.

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Speaker 1: Courtney wanted a little bit of advice.

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Speaker 4: I no longer Hey, she fell love you don't read it.

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Speaker 1: I know you don't want it, Courtney, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: like this. She said, DM me your personal phone number

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Speaker 1: and I'll connect you with a very good private investigator

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Speaker 1: I know who can do a thorough background check on

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Speaker 1: any man you want, completely charge for the rest of

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Speaker 1: your life. So free, she says, it's the least I

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Speaker 4: Please don't sleep with this one of her too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys went for the same toxic man.

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Speaker 1: Ask you for advice circle, So well, look at that, Courtney,

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that is a perk. I do enjoy that,

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Speaker 2: Yes. I mean, I think I'm reacting so strongly because

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Speaker 1: But I don't think any of us expected what came

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a crazy Housewife drama novel.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, it sounds like you two are going to

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Speaker 1: Brooke might need that private investigator for herself in just

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Speaker 1: a few years. Make to stay in touch. That's her

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Speaker 1: closure call. It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning

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Speaker 3: Brooking Jeffrey in the Morning.