WEBVTT - #91 - Glasses Malone 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.880 I'm honest, I'm not an asshole. All right, what are 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.720 we doing? All right? Yo, yo, yo, it's the Bootleg 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.920 CAV podcast. You motherfuck is what's poppin all? We got 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:16.919 one for you today. Listen, man, Glasses Malone, somebody who 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:18.799 is a good friend of mine. I've known Glasses for 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.360 the better part of the last ten or eleven twelve years. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:27.720 He holds a lot of opinions that are controversial and 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.400 also not so controversial, which we talked to him about 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.199 some of them, but uh, you know, we had to 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.400 have Glasses Malone. He got a podcast on the Black 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.839 Effect Network called the No Ceilings Podcast. Everyone should go 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:41.639 check out. 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This guy is supposed 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:13.319 to have been on the show a bunch of times. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:18.640 I got g Malone. Glasses Malone is here. Welcome man Man, 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.320 thank you for having me. I'm just looking at all 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:27.080 these plaques and shit plaques flax Galore Yo. You launched 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:31.639 your podcast finally, yeah, which I think had been something 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.680 that was long overdue because every time you do an interview, 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.560 every time you you have very very polarizing opinions. I'm 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.520 not saying they're wrong or right their opinions, so you know, 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.080 but I think I'm glad. Did Charla Magne have a 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.840 lot to do with as all? Charlottagne? Yeah, I would 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.240 have never did it. I never would have did it. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.040 What what was like the deciding factory? You're like, you 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.440 know what, fuck it, I'm gonna do this podcast. Just 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.640 trusting somebody that's a friend. Yeah. See see the hommie, 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.080 you know what I mean. And he's given me, he's 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.000 giving me pretty good advice up to this point. If 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.000 I asked him, he's always been honest and sincere. So 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.760 when he came to me, I was like, I just 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.440 can't keep telling you no, Like I'll try it. Let's go. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.760 How's it going. It's just getting good to me. Now 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.320 we are about twenty four conversations in so it's starting 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.480 to make sense. I think I did my favorite one 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.799 the other day. It was about COVID and I talked 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.080 to this doctor that's deal with like somewhere near I 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.960 think his number was over two thousand patients of COVID. Yeah, okay, 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.480 like just so many. And he was saying to us, 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.400 just different ideas. So it was really it was it 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.280 was very much a polarizing conversation. It was about like 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.240 we talked about the vaccine and the confusions in the 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.880 black community, and he understood and he started explaining what 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.480 the vaccine were, you know, was about different ideas and 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.640 it was good. So I thought it was dope, what 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.160 do you have you Are you vaccinated? No? Do you 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.760 plan on getting vaccinated? Yes? So that's something that you're 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.000 open to. And And because you brought up the black 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.560 community in the vaccine, because it feels like they're the 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:12.280 two biggest points of the population that aren't getting vaccinated 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.880 or like the really hardcore right wing people and then 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.720 a lot of the African American community. When you look 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.920 at the numbers, what do you think is like the 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.040 disconnect or the misinformation or the And I'm not saying 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.920 that the vaccine is like a shoe in Like I 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.960 think people should do whatever the fuck they want to 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.239 their uniality, you know what I'm saying. I don't like 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.120 the idea of forcing anyone to do anything. I think 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.960 you should get it. It's a good idea, But I 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.600 definitely am against any sort of like mandate because at 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.120 the end of the day, we're still in America and 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.560 there's some shitsu free country, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:45.920 But what are your thoughts on the whole just the 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.600 whole ship man, Like with COVID and and and the 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:53.640 vaccine and all that. Right wing America and Black America 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:57.440 just are the two biggest groups that don't trust the government. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.560 I don't know why right wing America, because everything's been 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.600 good that the government does so much good. I really 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.920 I would like to release so I understand our concerned. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.240 You know, it ain't necessarily like it's been made that 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.760 you want to help us live right. So it's always 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.960 that confusion, and they just did a bad job with 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.280 handling it. And I can't knock them because I'm not 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.240 saying I would have did a better one. It did 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:27.279 just kind of happen fast playing, so you're making a 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.640 thousand adjustments on the swing, and it was just so 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.520 much misinformation the whole time. It was just like bad decisions, 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.440 like you close down everybody's businesses, but then you open Walmart, 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.559 which don't make sense in theory. You should have closed 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.240 down Walmart and opened the all the small businesses and 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:46.400 allow minimum people. So it's always these questions and that 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.640 bothered people. You know what I'm saying, don't nobody black 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.479 think America want them to live? And then everybody is like, well, 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.479 you know, it's the same people taking them, but shit, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.520 they can manipulate shit. For DNA, we still got special 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.480 things about our anatomy that make special. So it's always 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:06.200 those questions, do you were you ever like you say 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.520 you plan on getting vaccinated? Was there something were you 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.320 ever like on the side of being like not fucked 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.560 that I ain't doing it? Did something happen to convince 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.320 you to do it? Or you just haven't gotten around 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.800 to getting it yet, Well it's not first off, right, 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.760 So obviously I don't necessarily have a ton of respect 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.120 for the FDA. They do a horrible job, you know 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.480 with the foods, and plus it's not even FDA proved 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.280 right now, That's what I'm saying. So I'm saying I 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.800 don't have a ton of trust for the FDA, right right, 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.640 But I do respect that they're attempting to act like 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.280 they're trying so at least fool me a little bit, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.640 Like you act like you can. But if the FDA 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.640 hasn't approved it, I'm just like, hold up, you know, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.200 it ain't that much of an emergency. I'm not that 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.200 scared of don enough to where I'm like, I'm gonna 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.000 just rush out and just do anything. Plus, I didn't 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.040 do a ton of research on the vaccines, you know 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.440 what I'm saying. I didn't know, Like it's new methods 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.280 that they create the new vaccines with now, I mean, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.880 like the five there, those are new methods that are 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.120 just now being inacted where your body is creating, you know, 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.280 from what the doctor explained to me on the podcast, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.799 your body, you know they're giving you like the protein 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.400 makeups and your body is creating the COVID, you know, 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.400 the COVID virus itself, and you know you're fighting it 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.280 with your own stuff. I don't even like the sound 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.240 of that. That's like, you know, refining my wheat or 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.719 refining my sugar or pasteurizing my damn milk. Stop fucking 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.039 with my ship. Give me, you know, make it a 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.039 little weaker, you know. So if I do it, I 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:33.279 you know, when I do it, I would do the 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.760 Johnson and Johnson. That's me obviously, the Johnson and Johnson 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.440 and fucked up a lot of people. But me, you know, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.560 that's what I would fuck with. Just take the one, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.200 the one one and done. Well. It's the old school way, 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.880 with the old school type vaccine, Yeah, where they take 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.760 the virus waking it up a little bit so your 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:55.520 body could That's how it used to be. So I 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.880 like that way versus you know again, you know, all 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.480 of this modern stuff of you know, convenience speed. I'm 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.279 not tripping. I got time. Like I'd rather fight it 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.479 and deal with it like that way. Yeah, I think that, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.320 like for me, like this whole COVID shit is, like 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.920 I mean, obviously I'm tired of this shit, it's to 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.640 the point where it's like, damn, there's a new variant. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:22.280 And I feel like, especially here, you know, we ain't 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.960 fucking liberal. It's hope. You know, we are in the 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.280 most liberal well, I mean Portland. You could do Heroin 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.160 and it's all right, but you know, but we're in California. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.280 It's pretty good. It's pretty close to liberal. It's this 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.760 liberal of the world. Yeah, and it's funny you said that. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.440 As soon as you said that, it made me think 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.120 of something so like, I was so unvested in the 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.280 conversation of conservative and liberals, so I didn't realize how 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.840 states view each other as states. And I remember I'm 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.160 jumping on the guy yellow Wolf. I'm jumping on his 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.280 head because he talking about California. I'm not realizing he 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.520 talking about that whole liberal conservative ship. And I remember 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.160 telling like, cause you better watch what you say. Like now, 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:04.840 I'm like, oh, I get it. This is some white 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.280 people white people shit. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.600 I didn't know Yo was talking about California. Yeah, he 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.000 had like this crazy This was like about two years ago, 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.240 and he was like talking shit like you know, fucking 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.520 yuppie motherfuckers and fucking liberal talking shit like, hey, bro, 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.560 you gotta take California out to your mouth like that. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.120 But I didn't realize I was ignorant to the conversation. 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.080 Why just mean in terms of like how like everyone 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.080 handled right? Well, I'm talking about right now, how we 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.560 see everything getting handled right? So I could see California 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.960 and shut down again. Yeah, I can see it happening 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.040 because we got to put on the show. Yeah, because 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.920 we gotta act like we care about the citizens right 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:41.840 right right now. I don't know if that's gonna happen 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.000 with a Gavin trying to keep his gig, you know 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.200 what I'm saying. It's real bad for the slick looking 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.960 real bad. But no, in terms of just like COVID, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.679 like I think I've kind of been on all spectrums 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.800 of like I'm over this shit. Okay, I have had it, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.600 I got vaccined. What the fuck else do you need 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.920 me to do? It's just don't work that way, man, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.800 They gotta You know, the thing about California, you know, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.439 even down to the culture itself, is all about saving face. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.440 So California always trying to save face from the top 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.719 of the food chain. Such a huge economy on its 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:19.920 own that everyone looks at Cali. You know, obviously, places 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.600 like New York As like this the example for the 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.240 rest of the country. Then you got motherfuckers like Texas 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:30.800 who are like, suck my Florida, Florida dark. Then I 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.000 love I love the attitude. That's the gangster rap attitude. 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.880 Texas and Florida is the full gainst the rap. You 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:42.960 talked about conservative liberal shit. I feel like people could 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.040 go onto your Twitter at any given time during the 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.440 election and during the last few years and maybe confuse 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.600 you or label you as a black conservative because I've 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.280 seen you retweet shit from Candice Owens and so where 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.040 do you cause you're You're like, I love you because 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.599 you're unapologetic yourself and I'm honest with you and and 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.760 what you think, you will say it no matter whose feelings. Again, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.600 the funniest shit I ever saw you say was about 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.880 Rick Ross's clothes, and yo, Ross is a boss, but 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.400 the killer those clothes ain't made in his size. In 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.920 my top five you feel me is my favorite and 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.320 he's still mad at me for but I'm like, it's 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.880 not about him as much as it's about how the 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:30.240 public wants to view. You know what the conversation is. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.120 You know how much they wanted exaggerated, so you know 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.880 you anyway, they don't make that shirt in five X right, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.520 they don't make none of that shit. But no, But like, 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.600 you're so honest with your opinion, and I think it's 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.600 white people love you. I think it's white people follow you. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.480 I think too, there's the reason why they hate you. 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:52.240 But I'm curious, like there's definitely some of your viewpoints. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.040 Would you consider yourself a black conservative? And I'm probably 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.120 the most liberal person in America. That's to being honest. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.880 But what I'm not is full of shit. And that's 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.679 the problem with the liberal population. It's more for front, 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.959 it's more for face values. Feel good inside. Yeah, they 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.160 want to look like they want people to look at 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.280 me I'm a good person, versus I genuinely am a 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.080 good person. I give a fuck. I genuinely care about 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.120 those points. So I could never stand on the side 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.800 with them. And the thing I respect about conservative is 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.960 they genuinely the piece of shit that they are. Right. See, 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.880 I could fuck with anything genuine I can't fuck with 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.160 things when people faking like it's some kind of confusion 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.240 that like, you know, the concept of racism is just 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.400 rooted in conservative Noah, Liberals in the same fucking way. 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.440 They just acting like they fuck with you. Yeah, I 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.680 think that the most frustrause I would say that, I'm like, 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.120 historically very liberal. I've voted Democrat every time, you know 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.240 what I'm saying. But I think that what's crazy about 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:58.000 what Trump did was he brought out the radicals on 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:02.839 every side exactly because the liberals get so gangst them. Man, 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.439 them dudes have some shit. It was a brother out there. Man, 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.680 This motherfucker was talking crab he ready, I'm ready, I 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.920 beat somebody ass. I'm like, the fuck is going on? Yeah? 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.680 Trump brought out the crazy racist like scum of the 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.679 earth that was always there, but now they're more comfortable 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.920 saying it, and you know which I was good with. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.559 And then on the other end, it's like cancel culture 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:30.520 is so prevalent now, and it's like there's this loud 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:36.679 minority on Twitter of people that control corporations, that control celebrities. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.920 Cause it's like it might be a a hundred motherfuckers 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.360 on Twitter, but if you get a hundred tweets and 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.320 you're a celebrity, because you said something that might not 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.040 sit well with whatever the fuck is the the woke 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:53.400 fucking talking point for the week. You gotta go and apologize, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.040 you know what I'm saying, Like, I just think it 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.800 sucks because now literally there's no like I feel like 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.920 reason and like just being a normal person that's not crazy. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:08.200 It's like it's hard nowadays because there's each extreme on 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:13.000 each side controls, whether it's the media, whatever it's on TV, 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.199 whether it's you know, to know what you're being controlled 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.360 by people get and also giving a fuck of what 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.240 people think. Well, you're controlled by money, right, So like 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.480 like let's say the baby in his situation, Right, he's 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.400 only losing because he allowed them to control how much 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.160 money he's making. He allowed them to say, you're gonna 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.240 book me on these festivals until we decide that this 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.640 is our culture and we are controlling it and we 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.080 could do our own thing. We empower them laying mass 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.120 festivals facts, We empower those juppy ass events. We're the 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.600 reason that you exist. It's some kind of confusion that 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.200 we need you. It's some kind of confusion that Rolling Loud. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.280 We didn't make that shit. We made that shit. You 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.280 take us off of that shit. That shit is nothing 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.679 but a fucking reject version of fucking will stop right 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.800 so again until we understand the power in our culture 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.600 that this hip hop shit is. Well, guess what, every 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.079 time we try to go to mainstream America, anytime they 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:07.960 feel like they want to, they could just slap us 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.760 down and be like, fuck you, nigga, get damn bam. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.280 But if we decided to take it into our own 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.520 hands and control it, then we could say what we 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.160 want to. We could control our own message. Right now, 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.960 we have the control of the dollars. I think the 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:25.560 Baby's probably the first example. I think I really feel 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.960 like where there's like motherfuckers if he's not canceled. This 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.440 is the closest I've seen someone as far as hip 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.840 hop is concerned of like a superstar right now. I'm 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.520 not talking about rappers that have said dumb shit and 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.200 then we don't hear from him. I mean a superstar, 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:44.360 right And honestly, I think what the Baby said at 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:48.640 best is ignorant. At best is ignorant, but really, at 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:52.160 the least it's just exclusionary. Like I wouldn't be mad 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.120 if I went to a concert with Elton John and 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.120 he jamming his songs, bro, and he like, hey, if 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.880 you suck Dick's make some noise. As a man, I 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.080 wouldn't be mad. I just wouldn't make noise. Feel me, 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.680 I wouldn't be like, oh, you know Elton John excluded 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.960 me in these conversations, bro. Stop trying to always be included. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.400 That's what's wrong with America now. They always want to 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.720 act like everybody needs to be included. That's not true. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.480 You just don't need to be discriminated against or necessarily, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:22.880 you know, somebody being bigoted your prejudice, But I don't 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.120 got to fuck with you. We were so desperate to 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.760 make everybody fuck with each other man fuck that. It's 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.400 like everybody wants to be included in everything, but isn't necessarily. 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.480 Don't got nothing to do with you. My views, as 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.960 much as my views are liberal, I would never be 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.480 with them pussies, this crip like I got way too 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.160 much attitude. My shit is too stand up and conservatives 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.280 at least, they're just assholes feel me. And I couldn't 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.320 be that because I don't have those views, but I 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.640 respect that it's authentic and it's from this is who 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.440 we are versus somebody y'all the same way, but y'all 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.200 trying to act like y'all give a fuck about people 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.440 the baby like I really didn't think. Like, first of all, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.000 we've been to plenty of rap shows, plenty of nightclubs 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.760 where they say, yo, if you pussy, don't stink, if 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.360 you ain't got no pussies, get mad. If he's just 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.360 cluding us, my pussy stinks, it's not my have a 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:17.120 I have a I have a fucking He just cluded me. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.400 What I'm saying is like what he what what he 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.040 did was rooted in like a real thing in the clubs, 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.200 especially in the South. It's normal. Now did did In 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.760 my opinion, did he fuck up? Sure? I think the 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.080 worst thing he said was the HIV thing, but because 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:38.680 it was insensitive, but at the same time, right, all 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:40.400 he I mean, and I'm not saying that he needed 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.880 to do this, but all he really had to do 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.440 was be like, hey man, you know, if you've ever 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.280 been to the club in the South, this is just 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.440 how we I just said, some crazy ship off the 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:53.840 top of my head. Obviously if you have HIV, that 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.840 was you know, he doubled he like quadrupled down on 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.920 that show. But you're supposed to right and again right. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.720 It's not saying everybody, he's not. He didn't say everybody 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.160 with HIV or age dies in two to three weeks. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.119 That's not what he said. He said, if you didn't, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.400 if you don't have age or some shit, that you're 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.040 gonna die two to three weeks. Make noise, Make some noise. Again, 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:20.400 it's one of those things where we are hearing somebody 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.119 and not listening to them, and we're reacting. Listen, if 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.480 you really cared about the baby, what you would have did, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:26.880 you would say, hey, man, you need to sit down 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.760 with Magic Johnson. Y'all need to have a conversation on tape. 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.600 This is required for me. He will educate you and 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.560 you lace Magic with the tips and they have a 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.679 conversation that's recorded. You put it on TV. Educate people. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.240 Let this man go get his fucking money. But again, 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.880 it's not about that. It's about nigga. You better watch 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.320 what you say. It ain't about none of the other shit. 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:50.040 It's a thousand motherfuckers that said words. But nigga, watch 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.360 what you say. You're getting out of line. Nigga. You 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.879 you feel me, you're getting out of control. Well, I 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.879 think what you said too is like a lot of 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.919 this shit is about saving face or or acting like 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:03.040 you care. Right, So if you're if as soon as 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:07.040 one festival took him off, you knew any other festival 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.240 that kept him on would look like they're a promotion point. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.879 Oh no, they're homophobic, or like you said, all the 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.240 festivals that took them off. You saw it on the 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.959 Shade Room, You saw their flyer on every single news outlet, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.400 So it was like, not only is it free promotion, 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.320 but it also checks the box of like, Okay, we 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.200 kind of have to do this because one motherfucker took 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:31.080 them off. If they if every other festival doesn't follow suit, 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.639 they're gonna get looked at like they're they're homophobic. And 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.200 I think I just think that, like like you said, 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.439 like I liked what Miightley Cyrus posted because she was 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.040 like I would like to educate him as opposed to 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.360 and then she's not shit, I hate him l John 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.080 And I was like, Bro, you don't even use your Twitter, 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.480 Bro madonnad what the fuck is Bro? You ain't did 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.440 nothing that matter? Do you think that it was smart 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.680 for him to though, like lean into it. Yeah, because 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.640 you're fucking geyster rapp. You a fucking ganyster. That's fair, 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.960 feel me. But the only the only thing was as 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.239 long as he's okay with losing the revenue that they 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.280 was provided for him, he'll be fine. But obviously he wasn't. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.040 He came out and apologized and that's what he probably 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.600 getting three four hundred show. But you got to make 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.760 your own three four hundred. I don't disagree with you, 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:15.840 but I'm just saying, well, I mean, you know, after 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.960 the seventh ary eighth one, you start adding up that money. 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.000 I went through the same because the day but whether 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:22.520 we like it or not, he's a gainst rapper. He's 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:24.920 also a pop star. But that's but that's the point. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.600 Because he is a gangster rapper. That's fair. So the 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:29.359 first time you turn it to a pop star, stopped 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.320 being against the rapper, it's probably not gonna work out. 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.000 I went through the same kind of thing. It wasn't 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.639 quite that because my step was still rooted in a 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.040 bit of intellect where I was talking about lilnaz X 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.760 right and I was saying somebody asked me on my Twitter, 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.600 they said, hey, man, gee, you know do I think 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:51.320 lilnaz X is a is like a tool of lgbt 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.080 I said, well, really, I tweeted, but I didn't at 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.679 the person. I said, Lil nonz X is not a 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:02.080 puppet for LGBTQ anything. He's a puppet for white supremacy. 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:04.960 And I said, really, more than anything that I'm not 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.160 feeling about his art. You know what I'm saying. He's 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:12.320 fucking corny, Like it's just corny as shit. Is it executed? Well? Yes? 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.000 Is there some decent idea there? Yes, the overall idea, 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.840 the whole shit is just actually lame in corny. He's 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.240 it's a guy named Bert Williams, right, that was a 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.440 that was a black dude that used to do black face. 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.880 He was a super talented actor, but he was doing 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.080 corny shit. Bro, why would you black facial ship? And 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.280 that's what I feel like he's doing with that culture. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.119 It's like you just over the top, bro, And I 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.639 get it, but it's like sometimes it's corny. It's just 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:41.320 what I say about Little because you and I had 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:44.080 a little conversation about Little Nizax and the Satan shoe 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.840 and all that shit. But I saw your tweet about 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:51.520 about the white supremacy thing, and I was like, I 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:56.080 truly believe. Now, obviously he's a pops musician, me and 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.119 you and the type of music that we I'm not 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.320 riding around in my car listening a little now, nobody 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:04.960 people are like yeah, like white people, right, or like 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.080 main street people. He's a pop star, sure right, he 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.679 makes pop music. But he's a brother, and that's the problem. 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.760 That's fair. That's fair. When you're a brother, we expect 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.320 your ship to have some soul, some depth. He's fucking 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.640 a cornball and that ship is fucking irritating. And your 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.040 record's got to be as good as so listen, you 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:27.400 can have that position that you subjectively don't like his music, right, 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:29.920 I don't know if I don't. I like old Town Rod. 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.280 I just don't like the shitty the last few records. 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:36.280 So as someone who is on the radio side, right, 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.919 someone who can like say, oh, like that's a hit record, 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.520 that's like, I feel like the record he put out 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:48.159 with the what's it called Monetaro? Yeah, I heard that 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.720 record and I was like, oh, this is a hit. Now. 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.320 That record did go number one at radio, right, it 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:57.720 went number one, but it probably was more rooted in 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.080 ads than just it worked its way up. It was 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.040 probably number one within the first week or two. I 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:03.720 wasn't It was a slow build. I promise you I 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.760 could show you the media based charts. It barely hit Also, 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:07.840 it came out before the video. No no, no no. 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:09.960 The video came out and it barely hit number one 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.120 on Rhythm like maybe like three or four weeks ago. 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.920 But was that a month ago? The song came out 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.120 in April. It actually came out in March, third week 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.000 of March, because that's when the video came out. Yeah, 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:24.840 because because I went through some legal shit this you remember, yes, okay, 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:28.239 go ahead, go ahead. So I heard that record and 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:29.680 I was like, Okay, this is a this is a 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.640 good record for radio, Like it's a pop It's gonna 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:34.639 kill it on Kiss FM. It's gonna you know. But 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.040 is it for me? Nah? But you know the ship 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:41.280 I'm listening to. But I could subjectively look in Little 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.040 nas X's music and be like, in my opinion, now 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.840 you got your opinion. I'm not saying it ain't corny, 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:51.359 but I think he's making good records. I'm not saying 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.000 he's making good rap records or good soul records. I 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.400 just think he's making good record. But you know my limitation, 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:58.760 it'll be disrespected. It saw me and think that I'm 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.000 just some kind of I like records, right, I don't 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:03.240 know you're right, and you're someone who's always been that way. 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:07.320 So Montero as a record is even as a pop 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:13.120 record is. It's written decent, it's executed. I just think 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.760 it's very like it lacks something original, right, And it 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.400 don't get me wrong because a lot of times, right 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.640 we're in spaces where you know people are doing the 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.480 next thing or the thing that everybody's doing. But pop 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.200 is definitely a higher standard where you're supposed to dig deeper. 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:32.160 Bruno Mars makes pop records. That's fair, and that ship 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.520 is some ship fire of course. So when you say 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:40.520 a record, I'm thinking like Little X's Montero or Silk 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.560 Sonic leave the door open, so Soonic leave the door open. 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.840 That got so I would rather listen to n Sync, 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:51.080 And that's fair because the record is better. I'm not 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:52.880 saying that the records aren't better. I'm just saying he's 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:56.119 got good records. It ain't like he's putting out done. No, 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.560 they're not horrible. They're not horrible. And so my thing 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:03.280 is is I think little nos X is somebody who, 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.080 like you said, when you first got in here, we 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.520 had an off camera conversation about a conversation you have 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.280 with t Pain and how you were like, yo, whatever 0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:15.879 you are, lean into it one thousand percent. So you 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.080 started wearing your glasses because your name's glasses on but 0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.600 you never used to wear glasses, so now you wear glasses, 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:24.120 but they're big. Little X is a gay dude, right, 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:28.840 and he's leaning into that. But again, right, so I agree, right, 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.359 it's a way to do everything. But then so like, 0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.680 let's say, if my name is Glasses, right, and I'm 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.000 a crip rapper, those are my two brands, and I 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.520 walk in this motherfucker where Bandana's tied around my wrists, 0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:42.919 Bandanna's tied around all my joints, my neck, my heads. 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:47.840 It's corny. It's extra. So not in this way past. 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:51.840 This is extra. That shit is stupid and ridiculous. But 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.320 that don't mean everybody can't tell, right, So let me 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.199 ask you this though, because if little nas X was 0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.480 a dude who was straight and he was making out 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.480 with bitches on stage and there was a bunch of 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.200 half naked bitches dancing around him, Nobody would question it. 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.560 That's not true. It's it's a belief that this is 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.480 all because I really think a lot of it is 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:11.960 because he's a gay dude. But that's not true because 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.000 we've never seen that. We've never seen someone quote unquote, 0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.040 and like I said, I do not idental Elton John 0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.480 not gay. Yeah, but I don't identify Little nos X. 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.679 And now John is the same because Little in some conversations, 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.800 people consider him hip hop, even though I don't. I 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:28.760 consider him a pop artist, pop art, but that raps. 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:33.040 He's he's certainly the first quote unquote person that raps, 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:37.520 that's on a level that he's on that is openly gay. 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:42.040 But nobody, nobody listen. He's as much as people care. 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.960 If the reason you separate him and Elton John is 0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.359 because Elton John shit is really good. I mean that 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.560 John makes way better music than Little naz X, but 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.280 on thousand percent. But that's my point. So again, it's 0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.720 easy and that's what everybody's doing. Like it's always the 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.520 if you if you critical of his brand, if you're 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.680 critical of his art, the immediate turn is, oh you're 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.359 just homophobic. You don't like because he gay. Let's actually 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:11.320 unpack the fucking records. Let's unpack the visuals. They're not 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:15.800 they're executed well, but but they're executed well. But he's 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:22.520 not making ground. That's not even making ground. We've seen 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.840 that before, right, But what it is is he's just 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:28.000 wrapping it up in gay face, like how Burt william 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.680 Is wrapping up like burg Williams wrapping up in black 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.800 and so he's wrapping it up and he's doing Britney 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:39.239 Spears in gay face. I liked it. Patnett gay face, 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.680 he's just gay like black face. He's gay face. So 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:46.000 he's just over dragging some shit, right, he over dragging 0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.480 and just like that's shower scene is Christina Aguilera. That's 0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.840 they shot that before that, that's been done. But you 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:53.399 just used a bunch of gay black men. You just 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.320 did it in gay face because he's a guy. But no, 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:57.000 but it's not because he's a gay guy. He knew 0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:00.240 everybody would care about that. See, gay people ain't just 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.160 running around just being extra, just like black people ain't. 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.359 It's black people that's dark as black face, right, it's 0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:10.119 just dark ass people with red lips, right, But people 0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:13.399 ain't just running around just being a nigga, you know. 0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.520 We Actually it's not as simple, right, So when you 0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:18.760 see a black man, right, that's what makes his think 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:23.040 he's a gay man. But because he's unbelievably at a 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.919 thousand with trying to tell you I'm gay, bro, we 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.600 know you are. I'm not saying nothing wrong. Nobody give 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.280 a fuck. Elton John's gay. Right, All kind of people 0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.320 we end up loving is gay. Nobody fucking cares, like, right, 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:39.200 you court, sure you care a little bit. Prince was 0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:43.280 probably bisexual, I think everybody. But on the same token, 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.720 is it not like it's his art, right, So if 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.880 he wants to be a trailblazer for his his community, 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.600 that you really true? That's not true, I think. I 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.760 think if you think about it's like seeing Bert Williams's 0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.560 trail based black face. But I don't know who Williams is. 0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.879 He's the he's the big you told me so again. 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.480 I wouldn't call him a trailblazer because you're not gonna 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.399 have generations of no. No. I just mean in terms 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:12.040 of like, I can't think of a time in the 0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.359 last twenty five to thirty years that I've been alive 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.200 and paying attention to music, that there's been an openly 0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:22.200 gay superstar. Not talking about Adam Lambert or somebody who 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.760 don't really matter. I'm talking about a super little nosed 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:29.240 actually superstar. And and what I so, you and I 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.560 had a discussion about that video with the Devil, and 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.520 what I appreciated about the video was his explanation for 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:39.360 was essentially everyone, Yeah, my whole life was she said, 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.120 I'm going to hell blah blah blah blah blah, all 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:42.920 this clown shit were Really it was just like, this 0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.440 is a good idea to make people talk, and it worked. 0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.880 But again, again, I can isn't that a lot of 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.040 this shit? Though? Yeah, but isn't that a lot of 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.400 this shit? Agree one hundred percent? But then it got 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.280 to be good at the It got to be great 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.400 at the route, the great at the root to you? 0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.600 Isn't it great at the route to maybe seventeen year 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.960 old kid who loves literally all love great records? But 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.440 what I'm saying is I think Little X has some 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:10.440 records that are I'm out here live what you mean? Damn? 0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.960 Old Town Road is best recording? You know it? Oh? 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.520 For sure? But that's the problem. Like, but Holiday is 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.920 a dope record, Panini is a banger, Panini's a banger. 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.400 Decent that shit is a banger. Bangs, but it's not really. 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:25.560 But like what I'm saying is like out here little 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.200 X like Panini. I hear little X Ponini. I'm like, Oh, 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.560 this shit is tell It's ten records in bro We're talking. 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.080 It's Old Town Road is better than every song. Of course, 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:34.720 it's the big It's probably the biggest song in the 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.960 last twenty years. But you're missing the point of what 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.520 I'm saying. We've demanded greatness from everybody. We we we're 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.120 not allowed to say this about nobody else. And you're 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.440 saying greatness objective to what you think is great. Well, 0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.000 that's the point, right, is my perspective, hundred percent right. So, 0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:53.240 but what I don't want is my opinion to be 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:57.560 discounted about art or brand because you think I'm a 0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.360 homophobe or you think I care that, which is not 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.560 the case. And that's what I'm dealing with, and that's 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.080 what I don't like. I don't care that the man 0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:06.000 is gay. I don't give fuck how many if the 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.520 fucking shower scene where they was dancing naked was fire, 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:14.880 It'd be fucking fire. It just wasn't good, just fucking corny. 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.800 So let me ask you this. Do you think was 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:22.880 it single ladies? No? Of course not again. So I'm 0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:24.720 so now I'm looking at him like, Okay, you went 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.280 through all this to show this fucking subpar routine. So 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.400 let me ask you this. I think that there is 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.640 a conversation to be had though. Don't you think a 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.080 lot of the hate that he gets is rooted in 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.360 some homophobia? Though sure I'm not talking about you, sure, sure, Sure, 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:42.840 some people are not. They cannot they cannot accept the 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.640 they don't understand the lifestyle enough, and it's confusing to 0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:47.920 them because they have their own belief of how this 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.160 is happening. Right. I've had conversations with people that they 0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.800 feel like, oh, you can't be boring. It's a thousand 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.920 things about people don't understand versus me, where I just 0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.480 don't care. I just don't have a reason to get 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.840 You have an opinion on what he's doing and you 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.120 think is corny. Ain't got nothing to do with nothing else, bro, 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:08.080 I don't man. People could speak up for me and 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.000 I stop them when they try. I don't need nobody 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:11.960 to speak for me. I don't. I don't want you to. 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.240 Oh you know, geez my boy, and I don't say 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.680 shit five me. Fuck these motherfull They could think what 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.360 they want to think. His shit is corny. I told him, 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.640 your shit's corny. You are black, You owe some more soul. 0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.240 Maybe you don't think so, but I am demanding it 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.160 as a fair. You went through all this to get 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.720 to my attention. You dancing on the devil's lap. Then 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.280 snap the man neck, you slide and look like a fairy. 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.480 You're doing all this shit you're doing for me to 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.640 see you because you want to show me all these 0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:41.440 visions of masculinity that don't I'm not used to sing, 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:43.800 especially from black men. Right. You want to show me 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.480 this so you get my attention. You make the Satan shoes. 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.600 You already know black people are rooting in some level 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.600 of spirituality. We don't fuck with saying, but you do 0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.240 it anyway, so you get my attention. Then you come back. 0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.960 You got the shower sing, I've been to jail. Feel me. 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.040 You dancing with the dudes in the shower and the 0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.520 subpart number that's just you should have actually had a 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.000 fire number at least so I could be pumped up 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.560 about it. Right, So you go through this to get 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.920 my attention, You get it, and then I give you 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.280 my opinion on your brand and your art, and you 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.440 try to wrap it up and say like, I'm a homophobe. 0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.360 You asked me to look at it. I looked at it. 0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.640 Here's what I'm telling you. That's what I think about it. 0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.840 Now you could take it and say, oh, gee, you're 0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.920 being a homophobe. You put whatever clown shit nigga El 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.719 John mops the floor, Sam Smith mobs the floor with 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.160 your slow ass. I don't disagree. So if you're not 0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:32.400 trying to be that good, don't come fucking with my attention. 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.000 So let me ask you this. When you tweeted that 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.520 he's more a tool for white supremacy or a puppet 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:43.600 rather because it matters than LGBTQ, what do you mean 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.760 by that. He's a fucking entertainment piece for mainstream America 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:50.200 like puppets, He's the show. And when you say white supremacy, yeah, 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.360 because at the highest level of people looking right at 0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.160 the white supremacy, this is the top level of this country, right, 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.320 who knows if people are embarrassed. Who knows of everything? 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.240 He's their entertainment piece. Feel me, like you said, he's 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.240 a one of one, right, and he know everybody that 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.280 look like me is shrinking down in their seats like 0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.240 ah man, And it's not. Everybody is not just because 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:15.920 you gay. It's just your shit's corny sometimes again, man, 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:19.120 when you're black, it's not fair, right, it's not fair. 0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.520 But there's things expected of you. And I'm not demanding 0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.800 more than you than I wouldn't demand from Prince or 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.960 any other great artists. You feel me, You don't get 0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.960 off because you gay, You don't get off because you 0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.920 still expected. Well, guess what, nigga, you gotta carry two torches. 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.600 Don't make us look stupid, like you don't make them 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:40.960 people look stupid, feel me, So, I think he's doing 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.800 a bad job of making people look you know what 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.280 I mean, He's just doing it goofy like. You're not 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.720 really adding to the culture. You're not creating a trend 0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:52.280 of things that's gonna happen. You gotta dig deep, bro, 0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.160 you went through some real struggles. If you're a young 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.640 black gay man, you went through some real struggle for sure. 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.240 Can I get that? Of course? Can I stop getting 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.680 these generic records that are not like you're making bad versions. 0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.320 He's making pop records. He's not making anything with substance 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.920 or depth to them. As far as like him talking 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.879 about like really tapping into the struggle. God, at least 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.719 be backstreets back is good. I mean that. I mean, look, 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.120 he got one, he got the Little The Hotown Road 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.120 is a fire. I mean, you know, but now, but 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.520 like damn, we like eight or nine and we'd had 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.359 about four that come on when I said I never 0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.200 heard a whack Little Noza song, I never heard none 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.239 of I'm whack no no. He's too good to make 0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.080 a wax song at this point. Now he's a good artist, 0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.640 like he makes records. I'm not saying he's made anything 0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.600 better than the Oldtown Road, but I'm like, yo, I'm 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.120 not I'm not riding around bumping Little Nozax at all. 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.480 But if I'm like, I'll check his video and I'll 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:43.759 be like, oh, yeah, I get it. You know, it's 0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.279 a pop record, great writers, you know, whatever it is 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.200 it's but I don't think it's I think it could 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.560 be better, And you're right, it could be so everything 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.040 could be better, but so then we all should demand it. 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.280 He's not talented like Bruno Mars though, but I'm saying 0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:03.040 Brun Mars an alien. Yeah have you seen that man live? 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.040 But again it's it's still like it's still pop like 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:07.920 it's now, I know it is. But Bruno Mars is 0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.759 like one of the most talented artists that we've seen 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.160 in the last like fifty years. Like like like he's 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.000 I was I Love Lives Morris Day. His life shows 0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:20.080 insane no more I'm talking about I'm talking about that level. 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.040 But I'm saying what makes his ship dope is he's 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.359 just not He don't look like me and he's doing that. 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.600 I think Bruno he's ill. Now, Bruno is an alien. 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:33.040 But but again put him in front of that now, 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.399 see that's what I'm talking about now, no disrespect, because 0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.520 Bruno was fucking fired, and he got fired, he got 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.239 some of the best. See, I wouldn't say he's one 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:41.439 of the best fifty like artists of the fifty years. 0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.000 I say some of the I wouldn't even say that. 0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.120 I'd say he has some of the best records I've 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:47.960 heard in fifty years. He's one of the best performers 0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:49.600 in the last fifty years. I haven't seen that, but 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.880 Tech nine is number one on that list for me. 0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:57.239 I agree, but but I think he was nine peak 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:05.280 techno saw so right, Elton John Right, that's fire, that's fire, 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:10.840 that's uncharted, uncharted territory fire. I don't disagree fee me 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:17.760 Sam Smith, uncharted territory fight. I think Sam Smith is fire. Now, 0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:22.200 with that being said, I probably would rather listen to 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.120 a Little X song than the Sam Smith songs. I 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:25.640 don't want to. I don't want to slice my wrists. 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.120 The only person, the only I listened to ever stay 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.440 with me more than everyone, stay with incredible record with me, 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:34.480 an incredible record. I give you that. Little is never 0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:36.200 gonna make a record's gonna stay with me? Why not? 0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.279 Because he's not that talented. That hints my point. Little 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.680 Sam Smith has a voice of an angel, a SoundCloud 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.080 rapper turned pop star. But then you gotta just with 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.120 great writers. But you gotta define it. You gotta define 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.120 it because we can't hold Little X, who literally is 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:56.040 a SoundCloud rapper, he's a pop star. Hold him started 0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.799 as a SoundCloud rapper and he's evolved into a pop star. 0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.320 But he was first record. His first record was a 0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.680 pop He's not a great No, Little that shit was 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.560 a joke, but it's still a pop record. Okay, fair enough, 0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.640 but it was a joke. So now you got to 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.239 compete with Bruno Mars. That's sold. Everyone gotta be town. 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:18.680 Hey how about this. Let me give you an example. Now, 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.400 I'm not saying that Eminem is culturally prevalent in the 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.640 last fifteen years, right, but can we agree that technically 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.440 Eminem is a top ten and ten would be short 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.560 sighting him. But if I were to say Eminem lyrically 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.759 skills as a rapper's top ten all time, you would 0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.960 be like, yeah, of course, I meant of course, right, 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:44.120 top five five for sure? Yeah, use to one per 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:52.880 Right now, I'm not over here barking down on I 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.160 don't even want to say little Baby, because he's improved 0:37:55.200 --> 0:38:01.800 so much as a rapper. I'm not barking down on Gunner. 0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.400 If Gunner got a hot record in the club or 0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:09.200 got a number one record at Urban, because he's not 0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.640 as talented as someone like Eminem, not at the time. 0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.920 They're not the same, But that's what I'm saying. They're not, 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.399 But they're not the same. But again, right, what makes 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:24.200 us all, even all of us right in hip hop, 0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:26.440 or all of us in pop music, or all of 0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:30.200 us in any of these genres the records. So again, 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.000 so you're saying record for record, that's all you have 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.160 to be. That's fair. You don't gotta be as talented. 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:40.520 But song like Hot by Young Thug and Gunner, Right, 0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.440 he's like a record that makes sense in the club. 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.680 It's a cool record. It was number one at urban radio. 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.640 It's a cool record. But it's not fucking But I'm 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:54.560 only asking it's not the box, But I'm not asking 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.440 it to be the box, right, I'm asking it to 0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:00.680 be ha it's not. It's not Ha'm I'm asked, but 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:04.000 it's not. But again, right, So that don't mean that 0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.279 it ain't dope, But that don't mean that it ain't good. 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.240 That don't mean that it can't be in the same world. 0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.400 Like I'm not getting Little Knazacs ain't gonna he can't 0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:14.960 do what Sam Smith does. No, but he can make 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.919 records as great as Sam Smith. I mean maybe, yes, 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.200 I mean he has. I mean, look, I'm not as dope, 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.280 but I'm not as great as eminem right as technically 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.520 sound as Eminem, But that don't mean I can't make 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.760 a record as that ring with one of his records 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.120 as No, I don't disagree with you. It's about doing 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.680 the work. So at the end of the day, your 0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:36.720 thoughts on Little knaz X are strictly rooted, and you're 0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.000 not crazy about the records he's putting out, and you 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.840 think the execution is corny. Well, I think, yeah, I 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.279 think the records are decent. They're they're above average. They're 0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.120 not you know what, They're above average. That's fair to 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.080 say compared to all the records today. But then again, 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:51.319 I'm also on a core competing against Magic Johnson, Like 0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.080 I'm looking at all of our opportunities as modern day 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.120 artists to compete with the greatest records to ever come out. 0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:01.239 So I look at it differently. You know, corny, he 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:03.399 knows it's corny, whether you admit it or not. As cool, 0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:05.600 you don't got to see why you think it's corny. 0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:09.239 I look at it as you know, when were like like, 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:11.279 you know, it's corny. No, I mean, but I also 0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.080 you see sometimes you know, but I'll come from the 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.960 era of watching Eminem videos that were me too and 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.400 I say they was corny. Sometimes they were fucking corny. 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:19.920 And I'm saying, so when I look at that, it 0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.880 kind of when I see Little nas X putting his 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:25.439 videos out, so some of corny, of course, oh my god, 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.200 oh my god, you stru Shay was corny as far. 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.279 So then why are you struggling and say Little nas 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.000 x content is corny. I'm not saying it's not. But 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.640 what I'm saying, say it if anything to say it, 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.239 I don't. To me, it's not so none of the 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.680 content is corny. But just when I see you know, 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:42.839 because when I watched the Devil video, I actually thought 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.080 that was fire. I'm saying, maybe prison Ship is it 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:50.720 corny or not? To me? For me, prison is not corny. 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.080 I didn't the corny as shit. I thought it was 0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.520 refining and refreshed. No, I just thought it was this 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:57.560 is cool. This reminds me some t r L. It 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:00.000 was cool. I wasn't mad at it. To be honest, 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.960 you know, it's cornyn. I'm just being honest with you. 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.120 I think probably what's corny. It don't mean you're a 0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.600 homophault because you think it's corny. I don't mean I'm 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.640 a racist. I'm not, and it don't mean I'm a 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.319 racist because I think some of Eminem is corny and 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.640 I'm not a sellout if I think early days you 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.600 peel sometimes corny. You want to know what the difference is? Sure? 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.759 And why I can't say it's corny because I expect 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.839 corny ship from Little noz X because he's a pop star. 0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.480 Eminem was a pop star and the time he got 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:33.320 to the real pop. Yeah, but I was listening to 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:36.279 Eminem on soundbombing two Rockets record. You just said the 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.480 same thing. Little Naz started as a SoundCloud rapper. You 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:43.239 know what I'm saying. Corny is Little's first record? Don't 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.480 you see something that she'd be like? But literally his 0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.000 first record ever was corny as fuck. So this is 0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:54.480 his bar. He's a corny guy. I'm like, I won't 0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:57.000 say the record it is corny. The video could have 0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.719 been corny, but not the record. The record was. I 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:02.200 mean it was horror in the it's corny, but but 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.920 but but it works because it was great. But he 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.000 set a corny bar from the rip and it's just 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.920 been consistent. No, that's who he is. That record is 0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:12.800 not cool. I got the horses in the back. He 0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:17.759 literally faked a great record. But no, but if you 0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.919 executed correctly he did, then it's not corny. That's the thing. 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.680 Like right, Like Adam Sandler. Right is one of my 0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:30.759 favorite you know what I mean? In Hollywood? Right, the 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.680 water boy treads the line, so you could tread the 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:36.279 line and sometime being you gotta hit it. But if 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.480 you go too far, it'll get caught. You know what 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.480 about Adam Sandler is the same way. But but listen, 0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:45.120 but listen, I think Adam Sandler, I expect corny shit. 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.319 So when he does like the Zohan movie, which is 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.520 super corny, then you say it's corner. Appreciate So why 0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:54.320 did you say? But again, me too? But I appreciate 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.960 little nosed Extra Ship because I expected to be corny. 0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.120 You won't say it's corny. No, I just said I 0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:03.480 expected to be corny. I literally corny? Is his whole 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:07.480 career is corny? Say? His whole career is corny? Getting 0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:13.000 past everything? But the corny? Say that shower scene in 0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.640 that video shower scene was corny? Do I think that 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.960 I'm being honest? Do I think the song was corny? Maybe? Yeah, 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:25.040 little corny liking, So what's corny besides his complete idea? 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.120 Just the songs called industry Baby, and like it's like, yeah, okay, 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:29.920 it's a low hanging fruit for Little noz X to 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.480 make a song about being the industry planned Okay, I 0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.239 get it. And then the video is what I expect, 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.040 which is why it's not corny. Still corny, you gotta 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.920 be good? Did it listen as much as Adam Sandler 0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.960 right can be corny? The water Boy is amazing and 0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.239 it's not corny. I love The water Boy. Zoehn is 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.960 amazing because but no, sometimes you can go but sometimes 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.959 you can go to far. Corny don't necessarily mean it's 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:57.760 not good. I am not listening to Little noz X's music. 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:03.080 Obviously subject to listen to pop music me like brun 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.360 the gotta be elite level. I am not listening to 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:09.120 Little X in my car. Ever. I threw on his 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.280 EP when it dropped what was it called the Rodeo 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.839 EP right, just to just to listen to it. I 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.840 threw it was like five songs, all right, cool, you 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:18.400 have the record with Cardi B. That was cool, But 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.040 I am not riding around in my car pressing play 0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:25.080 on middle X. Ever, what I can do as someone 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.359 who's appreciates entertainment, I could look and see what he's 0:44:28.360 --> 0:44:31.120 doing and be like, oh, I get it now, it's 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.839 not for me. Why not, because it's just not I'm 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.640 also do you're not enjoy some pop music? Not most 0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:41.560 of it? To be fair? Do you enjoy some? Do 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.560 you like Bruno Marris? I love Bruto Morris. That's pop, okay, 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:48.160 so some if that's some? Sure? Do you enjoy Sam Smith? No, 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.120 I'm not listening to it. I mean yeah, Elton John, Yeah, 0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:52.480 of course I love so the best of the best 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.440 pop music. I love it John. Yeah. I mean I 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:56.560 mean yeah. I mean I liked like seventy shit, eighty shit, 0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.200 I mean not even I'm not saying eighties pop music. 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.040 It's a lot of pop, but I'm not a big 0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.239 eighties pop guy. I actually think eighties pop is corny 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.920 as fuck. But but that means you don't like I 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.920 don't like in scene. I never like Backstreet Boys, I 0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:09.719 never like none of that. That's nineties. I know what 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.160 I'm saying. I never like any of that. Ships. So 0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.880 people are like like Justin Bieber peaches right, good record, 0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:19.280 That's that's an R and B record, right, Fire, great record? Now, 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.160 it's not corny though, No, no no, no, you're right, it's fire. 0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:29.280 That's a beautifully written song. It's probably executed executed perfect. Again, 0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:33.040 I'm not driving around in my car bumping Peaches. I 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.680 play pieces. Now, if Peaches comes on, you're not gonna 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.160 change it. I'm not gonna change it. But if that 0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:42.200 industry baby song, which might change that, I might change it. 0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:44.720 So I'm not so getting we're that's we're talking grand 0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:47.120 a point, but we're green on the same thing. For 0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.239 me to say it was bad, it's just not good. 0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.239 Neither's Peaches. But you would not change because is a 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.799 better songs. That's what I'm saying. Peaches is a way better. 0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:58.960 Peaches is better than what I'm saying a lot of songs. 0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.200 I'll take Peaches more than I mean. That's a fucking 0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:04.160 perfect song. Sure, I know you don't complain to me. 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.680 I love you know, like there's like records like that 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.600 I love to play, like in the club, like Essence 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.200 by whiz Kid. Fucking love it. Right, it's a great 0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.399 fucking Justin Bieber. Just jump out the remix. Now, I'm 0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:17.680 probably not driving around in my car listening to wiz 0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:20.120 you'n I he came, of course, not so. All I'm 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:25.360 demanding is better record and better representation from Little Nax. 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:27.600 I'm not asking for much. I'm not saying, hey, don't 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.800 be gay. You're gay, bro. That's how it is. I 0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.520 don't give a fuck. It's not my fucking business. But 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.480 when you when you get my mother fucking attention, you 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:37.279 go through all this shit for me to find out, 0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.920 and I give you my opinion, deliver nigga, deliver my nigga. 0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:44.759 Don't all I'm I'm not even talking about the song. 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.440 I'm talking about this bro. Go to the next level. 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.920 That's all I'm saying. That's what's suspected you you you 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.600 nine ten records deep at this point. Let's get to 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:55.680 it now. What do you think? Do you think the 0:46:55.719 --> 0:47:02.040 baby can do anything to patch up his current optics 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.919 with they'll be booking him at the festivals in the year. 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:06.680 In the year you think I'll be fine? Man? I 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.480 think he just jumps on a little Knazac song and 0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.439 it's all good. He definitely shouldn't do that. You don't 0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:13.560 think you should do that? No, Little Nazak's the baby 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:16.839 on the remix, Bro that the baby actually has this 0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:21.640 authentic feel. Little naz X lacks authenticity. They can help 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.480 each other, Bro, Go to Elton John, get Elton John, 0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:26.719 and go get Sam Smith to sing your hook. Don't 0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.480 fuck with him. He's a fucking cornball. Make him dig 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.160 hisself out of corny. First, come back to the rest 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.359 of the You know the depth, nigga, your brother, come 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:36.960 back to the depth of it, fimy. Then we fucking 0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.080 with it. But then, if you're going to do something 0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:42.359 you worried about how the LGBTQ community sees you, go 0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:45.560 get a big dog. Go Elton John, get Sam Smith, 0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:47.840 Go sit down with Sam. Let him sing a beautiful 0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.400 hook to the ladies or sing a beautiful hook to me. 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.279 Whoever is the fuck? Just sing a love hook and 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.399 you rap with Go to the best. Don't fuck with him. 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:59.200 He's a fucking cornball. You gotta get his ship together. 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:02.279 I man better. He can do it too. I heard 0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.320 Old Town Road. There's something in there. He just gotta 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:06.080 let me ask you this too. So like on the 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.040 other side of the coin, there's guys like Boosy right, 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.560 who's one of my favorite dudes in the game. Every 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:13.560 time I talk to him, he's I know what I'm getting. 0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:18.120 He's hilarious, but at the same time, he also comes 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:22.040 across the little homophobic. He has a genuine fear and 0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:26.120 and and and obviously I don't think it's for him 0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:28.520 at least because I'd like to think I've been around 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:30.600 him enough to know that he's not a hateful guy. Sure, 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:35.040 but I do think that there's like a big part 0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:37.080 of hip hop in the industry where there's people behind 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.560 the scenes whatever that that that kind of share his 0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:47.160 opinions about just the homosexuals in general. And I'm I'm 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:52.880 a believer that if you're gay, you're gonna be gay anyway, 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.600 I wouldn't say that, but I think there are some 0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:00.200 people that are born gay. And I also think think 0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:06.480 like if somebody like Little nos X being openly gay 0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.759 as an African American man in this country, which, as 0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.799 you said acknowledged earlier, probably one of the hardest things 0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.120 to be in this world as a black man, let alone, 0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:18.480 because then you're fucked in your own community on top 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:22.160 of being fucked in America. Right, So if Little nas 0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:28.360 X standing on that openly and proudly helps inspire people 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:32.040 to be themselves more right to be more proud of 0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.399 who they are, or to live their truths louder or 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:40.040 more proudly. Isn't that a good thing? I mean? But again, yes, right, 0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:43.400 unless you believe that he's actually infiltrating people's minds to 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:45.399 turning them gay, which I don't think is in this case. 0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.080 I had this, I've been having this dilemma in this conversation, 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:49.680 right because I used to feel the same way. I 0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:52.600 do not think you could just play gay like it 0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:55.520 is for some man to take penis. Bro is a 0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:58.440 different kind of devotion. You have to be committed. It's 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.560 gonna be tough, even like Bruce Jenner I mean, or 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:08.520 Kaitlin whatever. Right, even then he's still not gay, no, right, right, 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.600 he's a lesbian. He became a lesbian, right right, So 0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:14.520 I think it's a different commitment. So I felt the 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:17.479 same way you did. I felt like, you can't get 0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:20.879 people to be gay. But that might not be true. 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.279 That could be wrong. It can be a lot more 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.000 influential than were We want to admit, we're in a 0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.600 really weird place in society where social media is controlling 0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:33.560 a lot of things and attention, but in general, all 0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:36.800 of it is controlling. A lot. People are dying for attention, 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.160 like they're in a really weird space, So the things 0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.840 people will do to get attention that could be a problem. 0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.480 So that's why that I agree with you on that. 0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:51.120 So again, like as much as I wanted to kind 0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.600 of look at him like, bro, it is something to 0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.840 be scared of. I think this right. I think people 0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:01.359 will do things for attention more than ever. But at 0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.480 the same time, like you said, to be a gay 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:08.200 person as a big commitment, right, So I think if 0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:11.120 you were going to you know, be attracted to men 0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:17.200 and being romantic relationships for men, mom, man. But what 0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:20.480 I'm saying is now personally, I think you just really 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.040 have to be committed. That's a lot, you know. So 0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.160 what I'm saying is is like those people were gonna 0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:28.319 probably feel that way inside anyway. Maybe they were gonna 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:30.359 get married to a woman that they hated or that 0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:32.680 they secretly you know what I'm saying, Like, I think 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:34.759 they don't know if that's necessarily true. I think we 0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.080 all I think both sides at that point, we would 0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:40.360 all be speaking from ignorant places. But we also can't 0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.560 deny the control and influence I think there's a there's 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:45.359 a there's definitely a such thing as saying that there's 0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.520 an attention thing going on, which is where I like, 0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:49.879 I think like you and I'm not. And again I'm 0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:53.920 not accusing any you know, homosexual part. I genuinely think 0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:57.359 this is what's going on, but I can't ignore right now. 0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:01.720 We're in one of the most scariest times of society 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:04.720 where everybody is following you know what I mean for intention, 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:07.880 because everything about our life is built on what is 0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:12.640 it called, uh, societal acceptance or societal uh, you know whatever, 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:14.879 that is the wealth of it. I think the way 0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:16.400 I look at it right when like Boozie says some 0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.439 shit to me, it kind of makes me cringe because 0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.880 I'm like, man, like, the only way you're really scared 0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:23.319 of this is if you truly believe little Isaac can 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:26.120 turn a child gay. He and I think genuinely they 0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.480 believe that, and I think genuinely Boozy thinks that that's 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:32.400 the genuinely want for sure because he definitely believe thats 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.919 and I didn't. But now I'm stind of like, Okay, 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:36.440 I see what you're saying, because you could turn the 0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:38.879 child into a gangster. You could turn the child into 0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:41.560 turn the child. You can turn a child into a racist. 0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:45.799 That's true. So again, it's all a lifestyle change. It's 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.359 all a lifestyle thing. I don't know. I think it's 0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:51.160 about like what you're attracted to. I think it's kind 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.840 of built into you. I guess I would like to 0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:57.640 believe that, but man, that might not be true. I 0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:00.520 would like to believe that's true. But again, this is 0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:03.360 one of them conversation. Society wanted me to be attracted 0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:06.800 to white women. In my entire life, I've not fucked 0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:08.480 with any white women because they just don't do it 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:11.879 for me. That's racist, though, No it's not. I'm I'm 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.400 just being honest with you. As a childhood, I grew 0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:16.600 up watching what was on TV Baywatch? Well, who was 0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:20.239 on Sports Illustrated covers? Fucking uh? What was it? Bit 0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:22.040 his name? So you've never seen a white lady you 0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.160 want the mail? I mean, I can like see a 0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:26.520 white chicken, be like, yeah, she's cute, you know, but like, 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:28.919 are you not for me a white lady you thought 0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:31.560 was absolutely gorgeous? Of course, so then what are we 0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:34.000 talking about? Is there not men in this world that 0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:35.520 you can be like, that's a good looking dude. Never 0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:37.920 you've never seen a guy and been like, yo, he's 0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.440 a good looking guy. Never never, never been attracted to 0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.560 a guy. I didn't say attracted to, I said can 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:45.440 you have not ever been attracted to a white woman. 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:47.920 You've never been attract to a white woman. When I 0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.360 was a little kid, I think Pamela Anderson was hot. 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:54.799 But then I Megan Good is not hot. It's not 0:53:54.840 --> 0:54:00.600 for me. That is crazy, Megan Good, Megan making Fox, 0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:03.480 Oh yeah, making Fox. No, her thumbs kill me. She's 0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.960 got short thumbs. Plus, that's that's Mgk's that's mgk's girl. 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:09.440 That's my dog. So but no, nothing shit, he know 0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:12.680 he little Fox. I can acknowledge she's a beautiful woman, 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:16.560 but it's not for me. Yeah. See that's the point, right, 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:19.400 somebody probably wouldn't believe you. Somebody. Once I discovered j 0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.360 Lo as a child, it was over. It was just 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:26.000 like Latina's and then and then Tyra Banks, and I 0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:27.759 was like, oh this is different. I don't want to 0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:29.759 fuck nobody who looks like they could be related to me, 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.080 you know, like you know you, I mean, I've never 0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:38.600 heard that, but this is definitely special. But again, right, 0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.000 so I can acknowledge a white chick looks like, yeah, yeah, 0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:42.719 she's beautiful, but if you don't want to nail her, 0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:47.120 if you're not attracted to it, I mean, listen, what 0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:52.360 I'm saying is I should be in the white girls. 0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:57.240 Not really, you don't have to be. All I'm saying 0:54:57.360 --> 0:55:01.959 is right maybe Okay, so I can see the comp 0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:05.879 but again, I don't know if I can just one 0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:08.200 time I was certain of it, but kind of thinking, 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:10.759 I'm not sure. It could be a little bit more influential. 0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:13.200 So I say, all the gay people I know with 0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:16.799 and this is people who are actually gay actually suck 0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:20.160 dick and get their dick sucked by you know, God 0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:24.000 bless them. Friends of mine say that this is something 0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:28.160 that they knew as soon as they were conscious of attraction, 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:30.960 and that this is like this. I know. The homies 0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:33.080 told me the same thing that I know. So so 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.560 based on what gay people say, but I've heard other 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:37.920 gay people say different. I've heard other gay people talk 0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:41.399 about things that have happened to them. You might get 0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:44.439 molested as children. I mean, I mean that the said 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:48.120 fuck them up. Maybe and again, but I do know. 0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:52.720 But again, we are coming into uncharted territories in society. 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:57.239 At this point. We're influenced and social wealth I mean 0:55:57.320 --> 0:56:01.520 social uh uh social this is a specific word. But 0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:03.640 now they're at all time high. I think there's the 0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:08.360 all times. How about right now it's rappers wearing dresses. Yeah, 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:14.279 that was like ten years ago. Yeah, but uh, I 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.040 mean Andre did that, That's what I'm saying. So so 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.480 now we're he wore killed that's not fair. Yeah, but 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.680 Andre also just fashionedly, was just super forward, but people 0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:25.879 clowned it back. But a kilt still is okay. Young 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:27.719 thug woarre dress on the cover of an album and 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:31.319 a guy wore a wedding dress in a video. Yep. Right, 0:56:31.400 --> 0:56:35.480 So again we're doing things for attention. How about this 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:39.200 Dennis Rodman wore dress right married himself. Yes, we're doing 0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:42.080 so do we think that that made other people gay? Well, 0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:43.640 I don't think. I don't think that's the I don't 0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:45.520 I don't. I don't think he inspired people to be 0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.359 to wear dresses. Yes, I mean maybe, yeah, I think 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:50.920 people buried themselves us. How about this though, do you 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:55.759 think that young thug wearing a dress? If anything? First 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:58.520 of all, people refer to their homies as my love. 0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:02.520 Do people refer to themselves as having dicks out the gun? Yes, 0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:05.920 he's an influential figure. He's a very talented, gifted Yeah, 0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:08.160 but I don't think he's influencing anyone to suck cock 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:11.919 because he's not necessarily on records sucking cock. If he's sucking, 0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.520 do you think Little X is influencing people to suck dick? 0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:17.960 I don't know. He never influenced me, That's what I 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:21.520 can tell you. But again, you're asking me, right, I 0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:24.120 don't think that. I think if my kids saw me. 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:26.800 But it's not crazy for Bootsy to think kids could 0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:29.960 want to follow success and wealth, and they may think 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.439 success and wealth could come with sucking dick. If they're 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.959 looking at Little nas X. It might sound ask nine 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:37.800 and thought of it. But we are in a difference. 0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:39.760 I watched somebody the other day kill somebody of a 0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:42.960 pair of shoes in a raffle, that insane sixteen year 0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:45.640 old kid. You're missing what the sixteen year old kid 0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:47.720 is who killed the guy, But you're missing the point 0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:50.919 of what where we at? So to keep ignoring we're 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:54.320 in different spaces. Feel me and and and you gotta 0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:58.280 be careful. What you're saying is that we're in uncharted 0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:02.000 territory as far as social media being so privalent, and 0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:06.479 I might be fair, I think too. Like now, it's 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:13.520 also almost like you know where there's so much opinion 0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:18.360 and shit all around everybody. Right, you open your phone, 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:21.560 you just scrolling on TikTok, whatever the algorithm feeds you, 0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:23.720 it's gonna make you feel some type of way. You 0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:26.560 know what I'm saying. You know, I got my niece 0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:29.880 is she just came out as non binary. She's fourteen 0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:31.720 years old. I don't even know what that is. I 0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:33.200 know what it is, but I was like, that, shit, 0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:35.960 it's crazy, right, I don't want you to identify me 0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:38.720 as easy anything. So do they them thing is another 0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:41.520 thing that's like, you know, I had a conversation with 0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:44.640 my boy rams about this recently and he was like, 0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:46.880 and I was to the point where I was like, look, 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:50.600 I'm so down if you're if you're born a male, 0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:53.720 and you're like I I decided I want to be 0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:56.920 a female, So call me she all right? Cool? That 0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:00.240 they them thing just breaks my brain a little because 0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:03.520 because it sounds like I'm talking to multiple people language 0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:06.240 the irony is right. I'm a transphot right and people 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:08.040 get upset and I'm like, bro, I'm just telling you 0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:10.360 the truth. I have a genuine fear of trans people. 0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:13.280 It's confusing to me and it blows my mind. And 0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:16.480 they never go to the complete other side enough to 0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:18.560 where even the ones that go all the way over 0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:21.760 is just like, that's a lot for me. You mean 0:59:21.800 --> 0:59:26.360 for my brain something that doesn't it's just confusing. I'm confused. 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:30.200 So you're you're openly saying you're transphobia. Yes, I've said 0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.720 this multiple times and people get mad at me. Don't 0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:34.560 get mad at me because I'm scared the fuck you 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.160 want me to do? I see that shit. I don't 0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:38.360 had any conversations with any transfer No, And that's what 0:59:38.400 --> 0:59:40.280 I'm trying to set up on my podcast because I'm 0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.680 trying to have a better understanding. I don't think they're 0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:47.480 gonna kill me. It's just a scary thought. The confusion worries. 0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:49.640 Do you think being confused and being scared of separate 0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:52.080 or the kind of the same, because scared is like 0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:54.680 or you know, when we hear the word transpher fear 0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:58.360 means danger, right, so that the danger would be right 0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:02.760 if if for most black men, you would be worried 1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:05.120 that you're gonna run into a woman that was a man, 1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:08.920 right that before previously right you could have had the 1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:11.640 Johnson sliced off, could have got the breast, all the 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:14.760 female hormones. But you still don't want that to happen 1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:17.640 to you. That's a big thing. I wouldn't want that 1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:20.640 to happen to me. That would bother me. So you 1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:23.280 want to have an open conversation with someone who's from 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:26.960 the trans community to understand, because I do think that 1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:33.000 there are people who genuinely decide, like I'm not this 1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:35.960 and in order for me to be happy and fulfilled, 1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:39.160 I have to live my life this way. And I 1:00:39.240 --> 1:00:42.720 respect that concept completely and all of those other concepts. Right. 1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:44.600 The problem is when you start trying to change what 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:50.560 I see. That's my problem. So I think that that see, 1:00:50.560 --> 1:00:52.680 that's what I don't like, That's what I think. I 1:00:52.760 --> 1:00:55.400 think that, like, you're at least open enough to where 1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:59.840 you can say, I truly am confused about what this 1:00:59.880 --> 1:01:03.080 is and have a genuine fear, and I genuinely would 1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:05.680 like to sit down and have a dialogue with someone 1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:08.520 who is from that community, because I would like to 1:01:08.600 --> 1:01:11.520 understand it more. And I think that that is where 1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:16.480 what you're saying is different than probably a lot of 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:20.800 the hate and bigotry and negativity that someone who is 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:23.560 in the trans community, or someone who did grow up 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:28.120 as like maybe a trans seventeen or eighteen year old, 1:01:29.280 --> 1:01:32.720 they experience that word transphobic in a different way. That 1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:39.120 probably means violent hatred, you know, their health being at risk, 1:01:39.360 --> 1:01:46.080 you know discrimination. You're saying it in terms of hey, look, really, 1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:49.520 this is a language thing. It means you know, like 1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:52.120 you said danger fear right, and I wouldn't say that 1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:54.919 you probably fear for your life, no, but you don't 1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:58.040 understand it. Sure, And so your I think with yours, 1:01:58.080 --> 1:01:59.960 because I don't want people to be like glasses WANs. 1:02:01.120 --> 1:02:04.080 They can say that I'm okay with being who I 1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:06.520 am and honest about who I am. But but but 1:02:06.640 --> 1:02:08.800 the difference is is like with that word comes and 1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:11.080 whether or not we like to say this is what 1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:14.200 it says in the dictionary, what that word comes, a 1:02:14.240 --> 1:02:18.560 lot of other stuff attached to it. I don't think. 1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:20.640 I don't think you're a bigot, not that I would 1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:23.600 never hell no, And I don't think you're a hateful person. 1:02:24.120 --> 1:02:26.520 Of course, I hate some people, and I think you're 1:02:26.520 --> 1:02:28.400 a hateful person. Though I don't think you're I don't 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:30.560 think you're in your your your first nature is not 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:33.120 being a hateful guy. No, But but I don't think 1:02:33.160 --> 1:02:36.760 I don't think that's even the worst racist concepts. I 1:02:36.760 --> 1:02:39.480 think it's all rooted in ignorance. Right, We're all ignorance, 1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:41.840 That's what I'm saying. If you're scared, if you if 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:44.720 you're a ragnophobic, right, or you have a ragnophobia, right, 1:02:44.840 --> 1:02:47.600 you're scared of spiders, it's because you don't understand. You 1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:50.760 may think all spiders are venomous, you may think they 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:52.800 could bite you, you may think all of that. But 1:02:52.840 --> 1:02:56.160 if you obviously right, if you informed yourself, or if 1:02:56.160 --> 1:03:00.080 you were educated, it would bring some level of I 1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:02.880 also don't want to compare spiders to trans people, because 1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:06.280 trans people aren't poisonous. They're just spiders. A lot of 1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:08.720 spiders are, not even a lot, and the majority aren't. 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:11.640 But ceee, I you just did that. See how just 1:03:11.720 --> 1:03:15.280 see that's the thing with human but nobody trans is poisonous. 1:03:15.560 --> 1:03:18.680 But again, if let's say, if it's a man who 1:03:18.720 --> 1:03:22.280 was a woman, like a man right who became a 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:24.720 woman that's going out of her way because there is 1:03:24.760 --> 1:03:28.400 some sleeping with guys who she doesn't disclose that she 1:03:28.680 --> 1:03:32.280 is and she know that could crush them. That is dangerous. 1:03:32.440 --> 1:03:34.240 Now I'm not saying it's dangerous, but I'm saying I 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:36.240 don't disagree with you. But I'm saying that's not all 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:38.680 of their agenda. It's just like with spiders. Their agenda 1:03:38.840 --> 1:03:41.760 is not to poison everybody. So the point that you 1:03:41.760 --> 1:03:43.680 would like to try to understand and sitting down with 1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:48.640 someone would be some of the I guess the concept 1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:52.560 of like why why you're deciding to live your life 1:03:52.600 --> 1:03:54.919 this way? What is it? Well? I think I get 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:59.320 it right. The idea of it makes sense to me. Right, Okay, 1:03:59.360 --> 1:04:02.000 if you really feel like even though I could never relate, 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:05.440 I have no idea. But if you felt you are 1:04:05.480 --> 1:04:07.400 a woman your whole life and you were a man 1:04:07.440 --> 1:04:09.600 and you felt that way, I don't think I want 1:04:09.600 --> 1:04:12.160 to understand how did you feel that way? I don't 1:04:12.160 --> 1:04:19.160 think that's the point, which part of it is confusing 1:04:19.280 --> 1:04:22.040 to you. That baffles you no once it happens the 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:25.600 fact that you want me to see you different that's 1:04:25.640 --> 1:04:27.280 the thing that fucks me up. So let me ask 1:04:27.280 --> 1:04:30.720 you this. Right, if someone says to you, and I'm 1:04:30.760 --> 1:04:32.680 not saying, cook on the couch over there, all of 1:04:32.680 --> 1:04:34.960 a sudden says hey, I'm a woman, call me she, 1:04:35.080 --> 1:04:37.720 or I'm gonna cancele you. Right, But let's say you 1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:43.240 meet someone who's let's say you grew up around somebody, 1:04:43.560 --> 1:04:45.600 you ain't seen him in ten years, and you see 1:04:45.640 --> 1:04:47.600 them and they've transitioned to a woman. I'm not thinking 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:49.960 that this has happened, so that obviously hasn't happened. Now 1:04:50.000 --> 1:04:53.400 you know that person as however, you know that person, right, 1:04:53.880 --> 1:04:59.080 But if they tell you, hey, look glasses, it will 1:04:59.120 --> 1:05:04.320 make me feel much better. It makes me if you 1:05:04.520 --> 1:05:07.640 if you refer to me as this, if you refer 1:05:07.680 --> 1:05:09.240 to me as he, or you refer to me as 1:05:09.280 --> 1:05:13.240 my old name, it hurts. It fucks me up. And 1:05:13.640 --> 1:05:16.200 obviously we can't tell anybody how to feel right, is 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:23.200 paying Isn't that a minor inconvenience for you to make 1:05:23.240 --> 1:05:26.200 someone feel alright? And I'm not saying that your job 1:05:26.240 --> 1:05:28.880 to make anyone feel alright? Well, that's the thing, right, 1:05:29.120 --> 1:05:32.040 I would do whatsever convenient I wouldn't ever, just because 1:05:32.120 --> 1:05:35.760 as much as I'm a transfer right which I wouldn't go. 1:05:36.000 --> 1:05:40.440 I wouldn't walk up to Bruce to Kaitlin. Rather, I 1:05:40.480 --> 1:05:43.200 wouldn't call that like I wouldn't. I'm not going out 1:05:43.240 --> 1:05:44.800 of my way back. Oh, your mom named you Bruce, 1:05:44.800 --> 1:05:47.160 I'm gonna name you just I'm not fear me. I 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:49.440 just wouldn't even fuck with that person. Now, if it's 1:05:49.480 --> 1:05:51.360 one of my best friends, I'm ana call him whatever 1:05:51.480 --> 1:05:53.360 he asking me to call him at or she's ever 1:05:53.400 --> 1:05:55.400 asking me to call him at that point. But I 1:05:55.480 --> 1:05:59.560 would be uncomfortable. Why I'm uncomfortable is I don't quite know. 1:06:00.840 --> 1:06:03.200 I don't know. I'm being honest with you. I have 1:06:03.240 --> 1:06:06.840 no idea why. It's almost crazy because I'm my fears 1:06:06.880 --> 1:06:10.280 is usually I could you know see why, But you 1:06:10.280 --> 1:06:12.400 know this one is weird. I'm not a homophobe at all. 1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:14.600 So when people call I laugh, I think it's I 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:16.160 think it's dope to just hear you say that like 1:06:16.240 --> 1:06:18.640 you're open to having Hey, look, this is how I feel. 1:06:18.640 --> 1:06:20.480 But I want to have a conversation with somebody in 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:23.280 the community because but that's what my podcast is all 1:06:23.280 --> 1:06:26.320 about for me. I don't like to live in ignorance. 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:29.280 It bothers me. I hate being afraid of that shit. 1:06:29.320 --> 1:06:31.840 I hate being afraid of anything. I love conquering my fears. 1:06:31.880 --> 1:06:35.240 I think what we also have to understand and what 1:06:35.400 --> 1:06:37.560 it's been harder for me to understand it recently, really 1:06:37.640 --> 1:06:39.200 till I had a conversation recently with one of my 1:06:39.240 --> 1:06:46.280 best friends. Is not everything it has to make sense 1:06:47.000 --> 1:06:50.800 that makes sense. No, that doesn't make sense because of 1:06:51.000 --> 1:06:53.000 when you start, when you start trying to make everything 1:06:53.080 --> 1:06:56.160 make sense, and it's not a plight or something that 1:06:56.200 --> 1:06:58.919 you can identify with, and it just don't make sense 1:06:58.960 --> 1:07:02.360 to you. Some ship just don't gotta make sense. But 1:07:02.480 --> 1:07:04.640 I think, see, and that's where I think as a 1:07:04.680 --> 1:07:08.400 thinking man, right, That's why I'm used to the world 1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:12.600 making sense. So when sometimes things happen that don't make 1:07:12.680 --> 1:07:16.520 sense right or or out of my realm of understanding, right, 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:19.920 I shy away. That makes sense. I mean that makes sense. 1:07:20.520 --> 1:07:22.880 And and but it also now I get some people 1:07:22.920 --> 1:07:29.080 get angry and get you know, big You're like, yo, 1:07:29.120 --> 1:07:31.360 I'm just shy away. But I'm willing to have a 1:07:31.400 --> 1:07:34.920 conversation to help and and and pursuing the idea right 1:07:34.960 --> 1:07:40.720 and pursuing the idea. The character Uncle Clifford. I don't 1:07:40.720 --> 1:07:43.240 know if that would be you know, if Uncle Clifford's character, 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:46.200 because I think the character is a man, but I 1:07:46.240 --> 1:07:48.040 don't know if that's referred to as a trance or 1:07:48.080 --> 1:07:49.600 a cross. So I don't know the property. I don't 1:07:49.600 --> 1:07:52.000 even know what that is. So Uncle Clifford is a 1:07:52.080 --> 1:07:57.680 character from p Valley. He owns a strip club, right, Oh, 1:07:57.720 --> 1:08:00.959 I heard about it. It's it's it's it's Mississippi based. 1:08:00.960 --> 1:08:03.600 This is black strip club. I heard about it. Yeah, 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:07.280 it's fire, it's fire. But this character is one of 1:08:07.320 --> 1:08:12.000 the best layered characters right for that community. See, that's 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:15.960 a great character written for that community. That character is 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:19.599 fucking excellently written. And that's what I'm asking, And that's 1:08:19.640 --> 1:08:23.800 what human beings need, you know. I mean, like, like, Okay, 1:08:23.840 --> 1:08:25.840 it's cool to have something that plany the stereotypes, but 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:29.240 then give something that people can really understand what and 1:08:29.280 --> 1:08:34.000 be empathetic towards just because you exist. See, naturally, the 1:08:34.040 --> 1:08:36.680 act of being a human being, right is to be empathetic, 1:08:36.720 --> 1:08:40.759 being humane. But it don't come with every model that 1:08:40.760 --> 1:08:43.240 that's born on this earth. So you have to give 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:45.920 them figures and characters. That's why I don't mind them 1:08:45.960 --> 1:08:50.760 implicating you know, things and and adult films about, you know, 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:53.200 because it'll make you like, like I said, Uncle Clifford, 1:08:53.240 --> 1:08:54.760 like that shit helped me a lot. Like I'm like, 1:08:54.800 --> 1:08:57.040 damn that motherfucker cool. I fuck with that. I need 1:08:57.080 --> 1:08:59.479 to have a conversation with that motherfucker. He might actually 1:08:59.479 --> 1:09:03.760 be this char What if you think, like I mean, 1:09:03.960 --> 1:09:07.680 even think about Omar Little in the Wire. I never 1:09:07.720 --> 1:09:11.360 watched The Wire. Oh that's another comment. I never watched it. 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:15.920 But but but this character is written so well. Yeah, 1:09:16.080 --> 1:09:19.240 this character's written so well that you know what I mean. 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:22.240 That's that's the point I'm saying. I think, I think 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:26.800 we can use entertainment and a lot of things to 1:09:26.880 --> 1:09:29.240 our advantage, but we have to be careful with how 1:09:29.240 --> 1:09:31.679 we do it. You know, we just can't throw anything out, 1:09:31.760 --> 1:09:34.439 you know what I'm saying. That's the problem. So I 1:09:34.960 --> 1:09:39.880 respect everybody being you know, mindful of what they're doing, 1:09:40.640 --> 1:09:42.840 especially in some of these places that make a lot 1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:45.920 of people uncomfortable. You know, just shows ship at people 1:09:45.960 --> 1:09:48.720 because you right to exist. It's like, you know what 1:09:48.720 --> 1:09:51.080 I mean, Like it's just tough. That's not the wisest 1:09:51.080 --> 1:09:53.160 way to do it. If I met a racist white family, 1:09:53.160 --> 1:09:55.720 I'm not gonna just walk in the house and watermelon 1:09:55.800 --> 1:09:57.160 chicken to be the nigga they want me to be. 1:09:57.840 --> 1:10:00.760 I'm a walking house and be who I am. See, 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:04.240 that's and that's what I was saying specifically about any thing. Right, 1:10:04.280 --> 1:10:06.720 It's one thing that had these big, stupid ass glasses on. 1:10:06.920 --> 1:10:08.720 It's another thing if I walk in this motherfuck with 1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:11.280 all these stupid ass blue mandanna's around my neck, riz 1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:14.439 elbow over exaggerating, I'm a crypt You know this is crip. 1:10:14.960 --> 1:10:16.840 There are things I could do, subtle things I could 1:10:16.880 --> 1:10:18.320 do that you will know this script. Maybe I get 1:10:18.320 --> 1:10:20.120 it in the side of my head. You know, these 1:10:20.160 --> 1:10:24.960 glasses over the top all the time becomes corny and clowny. Right, 1:10:25.160 --> 1:10:27.960 So but I digress, you know what I'm saying. That's 1:10:28.040 --> 1:10:30.000 the thing, you know, being honest with who you are, Like, 1:10:30.080 --> 1:10:33.200 I'm not I'm not gonna fight no fucking trans person 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:35.080 because they trans Like what the fuck I look like, 1:10:35.160 --> 1:10:38.080 I'm not fighting nobody. I'm fucking you know. I mean, 1:10:38.160 --> 1:10:40.120 I'm not fighting nobody that ain't did something wrong to 1:10:40.160 --> 1:10:42.960 me or deserve an ass kicking. Now. I mean, listen, man, 1:10:43.000 --> 1:10:45.920 I think your honesty is great, and I think that 1:10:46.560 --> 1:10:49.280 more people who feel the way you feel, because we 1:10:49.280 --> 1:10:51.200 obviously know there's a lot of people who feel that way. 1:10:51.479 --> 1:10:53.639 And I don't think it's necessarily rooted in a place 1:10:53.680 --> 1:10:56.720 of hate. It's rooted in a place of misunderstanding and 1:10:57.600 --> 1:11:01.360 lack of you know, experience or education or whatever. It 1:11:01.520 --> 1:11:04.040 is the fact that, like you're open to having those 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:07.040 conversations and sure, yeah, man, shit, I mean that shit 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:10.240 is big. I don't think I think it's normal for thinking. Man, 1:11:10.520 --> 1:11:13.200 I need everybody else ain't got time to think. People 1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:15.920 just really living their life on auto pilot. I'm a 1:11:16.040 --> 1:11:18.719 thinking person. I like to think. I like to figure 1:11:18.720 --> 1:11:20.960 it out. I like to be comfortable. It could be 1:11:21.000 --> 1:11:23.439 a lack of exposure. Yeah, you know what I mean. 1:11:23.680 --> 1:11:25.720 So yeah, I mean, look at the end of the day, right, 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:27.880 there's kids that are being raised in communities that are 1:11:27.920 --> 1:11:31.920 probably fully white. Right, but that's been my point forever, 1:11:32.040 --> 1:11:34.559 that have no idea about black experience. That doesn't make 1:11:34.600 --> 1:11:39.760 them racist, no, not at all. It makes the ignorant probably, yeah, 1:11:39.960 --> 1:11:42.120 But but that think about this, think about this, right, 1:11:42.479 --> 1:11:43.880 But that's why I say I feel the same way 1:11:43.880 --> 1:11:46.240 about the word racism. It's thrown around entirely too much. 1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:49.640 Everything to describe everything is racist. It's like just like 1:11:49.720 --> 1:11:53.000 everything that's thrown around is a homophobic transphobia. Bro, you 1:11:53.080 --> 1:11:56.599 got to use that word much better, Like every community 1:11:56.720 --> 1:12:00.360 needs to use these words much better because to mislabel people, 1:12:00.560 --> 1:12:04.320 it's actually just kind of promoting the same hate you 1:12:04.479 --> 1:12:06.320 you're going against. Well, like, think about this. I grew 1:12:06.400 --> 1:12:09.639 up in Phoenix around I mean, my immediate friend group 1:12:09.760 --> 1:12:12.920 was African American and Mexican, right, But that was really 1:12:12.960 --> 1:12:15.679 the two minorities in my life that I was raised around. 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:21.559 So I never really experienced a lot of culture outside 1:12:21.600 --> 1:12:24.200 of Black culture, Mexican culture, you know, my parents, you 1:12:24.240 --> 1:12:27.640 know what I'm saying. But like, we went to New 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:31.960 York earlier this year and we're in a part of 1:12:32.000 --> 1:12:37.120 Brooklyn where it was a Hasidic jew community, and that's 1:12:37.160 --> 1:12:40.640 something I never experienced. So I was like, truly, is 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:42.640 that like is that like out here like city with 1:12:42.880 --> 1:12:44.479 with the hats and so that's that's like out there 1:12:44.520 --> 1:12:48.519 Miracle Mount probably, yes. So so the homie we were 1:12:48.560 --> 1:12:50.360 with was like yeah, they got their own police force. 1:12:50.960 --> 1:12:53.439 They don't on certain days, they don't touch a phone, 1:12:53.479 --> 1:12:55.560 they don't touch a buttons like it's you know, and 1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:57.920 they they're like, yo, they got their own ambulances. You 1:12:57.920 --> 1:13:00.200 could be on their street and get stabbed and be 1:13:00.240 --> 1:13:02.120 bleeding to death and their ambulance will pick you up. 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:04.760 And it was just telling me like a rundown of 1:13:04.880 --> 1:13:08.920 like the Hasidic jew culture and shit, and I was enamored. 1:13:09.800 --> 1:13:12.240 I was like so intrigued because this is something I 1:13:12.320 --> 1:13:15.680 never even knew was a thing. Like we're in New 1:13:15.760 --> 1:13:18.000 York and I'm like, this shit is ill. Should I've 1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:19.880 been to New York and they was Spanish towns that 1:13:20.000 --> 1:13:21.560 was racist. But you know what I'm saying, Like, what 1:13:21.640 --> 1:13:23.439 I'm saying is like just in general, like like you 1:13:23.520 --> 1:13:27.000 were saying earlier, like yo, you can't. Lack of exposure 1:13:27.080 --> 1:13:29.880 was the word you use, right, So in the same 1:13:29.920 --> 1:13:33.599 way that we probably know that there's kids being raised 1:13:33.680 --> 1:13:36.760 in white towns who don't know any black people. That's 1:13:36.840 --> 1:13:39.519 just there. You know, they might have to go to college. 1:13:39.840 --> 1:13:43.040 They might have to, you know, if they're blessing enough, Yeah, 1:13:43.080 --> 1:13:44.840 go live their life, because some of them kids will 1:13:44.840 --> 1:13:47.439 never get out of that fucking podunk town. Man, I 1:13:47.479 --> 1:13:49.439 didn't been on tour with Tech nine and been to towns. 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:50.960 You could tell a dude told me I was a 1:13:51.000 --> 1:13:54.559 third black person you ever met, which is crazy. 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And you've done, you've done gathering at 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:25.720 the Juggalos and all that shit. Yeah you've been. I 1:15:25.800 --> 1:15:28.599 mean you were signed a sub noise record for so yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1:15:30.040 --> 1:15:33.240 But I wanted to get your take on six ' 1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:38.120 nine and you know, recently Whack, because Whack on my 1:15:38.280 --> 1:15:40.680 show said that he didn't feel like six ' nine 1:15:40.800 --> 1:15:42.080 was a snitch. He said he felt like he was 1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:46.519 a civilian who told the truth. He's not snitch. So 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:48.080 I wanted to kind of get your take because I 1:15:48.120 --> 1:15:49.840 know you and I have had a discussion about the 1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:52.640 snitch shit, and it's essentially, you know, what do you 1:15:52.800 --> 1:15:57.879 define as that? Okay, So the the flaw in wax 1:15:58.439 --> 1:16:02.400 discussion with that is he's a civilian, right, So on 1:16:02.520 --> 1:16:05.040 the West Coast, being a civilian means I guess in 1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:06.760 theory you're not a part of a gang. You're not 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:09.040 a part of the army, the infantry, whatever. That is, right, 1:16:09.120 --> 1:16:12.000 based off of the real word. But everywhere else that's 1:16:12.040 --> 1:16:14.400 a rooted in criminal Like snitching has nothing to do 1:16:14.439 --> 1:16:18.080 with gangbanging. Snitching is rooted in being a criminal, you know, 1:16:18.240 --> 1:16:21.639 or mirtha and all these codes go back before crips 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:24.880 and bloods or any gangs of black culture existed in 1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:29.040 this country. Not snitching is a thing in criminality like 1:16:29.120 --> 1:16:32.920 there are No criminal will respect him, no criminal period 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:35.759 will respect him. And I just think Wax not a criminal. 1:16:36.760 --> 1:16:39.759 Yet what he's saying is obviously not true. He knows 1:16:40.720 --> 1:16:43.200 that boy is a rat. That boy is a rat. 1:16:43.479 --> 1:16:45.320 You know, he's a rat. It's only you're not a 1:16:45.400 --> 1:16:47.360 rat if you're not a criminal. Like if I did 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:49.880 something to somebody that's not a criminal, that's what they're 1:16:49.920 --> 1:16:52.040 supposed to do in foreign the police. If you do 1:16:52.200 --> 1:16:54.599 something to a criminal, he's not supposed to We all 1:16:54.720 --> 1:16:59.439 know this. So because wax argument is rooted in whether 1:16:59.520 --> 1:17:01.680 or not six ' nine is a gang member. He 1:17:01.880 --> 1:17:04.479 was a convicted pervert. He was a drug dealer before 1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:07.559 you ever met the gang. So you're saying, I mean, 1:17:07.600 --> 1:17:11.320 and I don't disagree with you that the snitch stigma 1:17:11.560 --> 1:17:14.280 or the snitch definition what makes someone the snitch is 1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:16.800 not rooted in gang banging. It's not rooted in whether 1:17:16.880 --> 1:17:18.439 or not you're a cripper of blood or whatever. It's 1:17:18.479 --> 1:17:22.320 rooted in a criminal world. And he's a committed criminal. 1:17:22.400 --> 1:17:25.640 He's devoted to the lifestyle of being a criminal. He 1:17:25.840 --> 1:17:29.800 just told it's nothing man. That spin is a good 1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:34.320 spin for the average I'm saying the average fan out there, 1:17:34.760 --> 1:17:36.519 you know what I mean, It's a great span for them. 1:17:36.600 --> 1:17:39.000 But if you're really in the life, man, he's a 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:41.439 he's a rat. He know, he a rat. You think 1:17:41.560 --> 1:17:45.000 Whack Whack knows he's a rat. Yes, he got paid. 1:17:46.040 --> 1:17:48.200 You think Whack got paid? Oh, no way, got paid 1:17:48.360 --> 1:17:51.400 to do the interview. Wa got paid. Whack is one 1:17:51.439 --> 1:17:54.640 of the smartest motherfucker I met when it comes to 1:17:55.400 --> 1:17:58.000 this music shit. I agree Whack is a brilliant guy. 1:17:58.160 --> 1:18:00.479 Feel me he got paid. He he might have got 1:18:00.520 --> 1:18:02.720 to a three checks. I wouldn't be surprised if it 1:18:02.760 --> 1:18:04.439 come out he got a check because they talking about 1:18:04.439 --> 1:18:07.400 promoting a fight. I wouldn't be surprised if Couz got 1:18:07.439 --> 1:18:10.439 a check from you know, Spotify for doing the shit 1:18:10.479 --> 1:18:12.800 with academics. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a 1:18:12.880 --> 1:18:15.600 check from Lucien and Elliott for promoting the artists and 1:18:15.640 --> 1:18:19.599 trying to establish his brand. What got paid? It does 1:18:19.680 --> 1:18:22.960 feel like now six ' nine, if he were to 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:28.479 like release music right now or try to get the 1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:33.040 music popping again, it does feel like that the Whack 1:18:33.280 --> 1:18:36.840 thing helped a lot as far as making it easier for, 1:18:37.720 --> 1:18:41.519 like you said, surface level consumers to swallow it, to 1:18:41.600 --> 1:18:45.360 believe he has some level of credibility and he has none. 1:18:45.680 --> 1:18:49.040 He's a horrible human being. Do you think like six ' 1:18:49.160 --> 1:18:51.120 nine is one of Snitch nine is one of the 1:18:51.240 --> 1:18:56.879 worst human beings? I've ever encountered like Hitler bad. He's horrible. 1:18:57.640 --> 1:19:00.360 He literally is manipulative, you know. He He's one of 1:19:00.400 --> 1:19:02.920 the type of people that you don't want to be around. 1:19:03.200 --> 1:19:06.360 He's literally full of shit. He will do anything to 1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:11.160 be to have attention, write anything, anything to have attention. 1:19:11.600 --> 1:19:14.400 And he's manipulative. He knows people aren't that bright, so 1:19:14.479 --> 1:19:17.920 he's taking advantage of it. Cous might be like shaping himself. 1:19:18.880 --> 1:19:21.840 He's manipulating a Mexican community by so all, he's Mexican, bro. 1:19:22.040 --> 1:19:25.160 That dude is full of shit. He's a fucking rat. 1:19:25.680 --> 1:19:27.519 He's a rat because he didn't want to deal with 1:19:27.640 --> 1:19:30.760 the crimes. He had other people do for him. He 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:33.000 paid him. It has nothing to do with gang. They 1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:35.080 didn't do it for free. That's how much they didn't 1:19:35.080 --> 1:19:37.439 respecting that they he charged them. If I call my 1:19:37.520 --> 1:19:39.880 homeboy to do something, they gonna do it for me, period, 1:19:40.000 --> 1:19:43.200 and I wouldn't call him. He paid them. He was 1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:45.760 a criminal before them, he'll be a criminal after them. 1:19:45.880 --> 1:19:48.640 Right now, he's a working informant. Like I'm looking at 1:19:48.680 --> 1:19:50.559 the stuff twenty one savage and I'm doing talking about 1:19:50.560 --> 1:19:52.960 fighting this man. What are y'all thinking? And this man 1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:57.240 will get you put in prison right now, this ain't over. 1:19:57.360 --> 1:19:59.599 You don't just snitch one time all on the case 1:19:59.680 --> 1:20:02.839 that big can get that little time. He's a permanent informant. 1:20:03.040 --> 1:20:05.800 He's going to tell for twenty or thirty years that 1:20:06.000 --> 1:20:08.880 man is a rat. Whack no here rat. Everybody know 1:20:08.960 --> 1:20:11.760 you're rep do you? I mean? Because I mean look, 1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:13.840 at the end of the day, I think Wack had 1:20:13.840 --> 1:20:18.280 a conversation with him in which he held him as 1:20:18.280 --> 1:20:21.120 accountable as we've seen someone hold him accountable. I don't 1:20:21.120 --> 1:20:24.000 know if you watched the interview, I wouldn't there. They 1:20:24.160 --> 1:20:26.720 be having clubhouses, I wouldn't be in a room listen. 1:20:26.800 --> 1:20:30.759 I won't. I won't consumers comp I won't consumer's content. 1:20:30.920 --> 1:20:33.839 I won't do nothing. You know, I gave him a chance. Initially, 1:20:33.920 --> 1:20:35.800 I fucked with him. I listened to his music. I 1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:39.840 didn't appeared all that right, great records. But bro, once 1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:43.400 you once, once you are a criminal, and you break 1:20:43.520 --> 1:20:46.040 that code again. It's a sense of ethics. You have 1:20:46.360 --> 1:20:49.160 no real ethics as a human being. Feel me like, 1:20:49.320 --> 1:20:51.760 I'm just not fucking with you. You were fucking well, 1:20:51.840 --> 1:20:53.960 let me ask you this with Whack like obviously, like 1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:55.720 you said, he's one of the more brilliant guys. I mean, 1:20:55.760 --> 1:20:58.200 I got love for Whack. Whack's always been solid with me. 1:20:58.800 --> 1:21:02.479 Do you think that he made a mistake by having 1:21:02.520 --> 1:21:04.560 that conversation with six or nine? And at least I 1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:06.840 don't think he's aligning himself with him in any capacity. 1:21:07.280 --> 1:21:09.480 I think they obviously have an open line of communication. 1:21:10.160 --> 1:21:13.200 I think Whack held him accountable in that interview at all, 1:21:13.280 --> 1:21:16.599 but essentially saying you're a snitch, even though he said 1:21:16.640 --> 1:21:18.559 he know he's a damn like you know that music 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:21.360 is corny. He know he's a snitch. So my question 1:21:21.400 --> 1:21:22.960 to you is, like, do you think Whack made a 1:21:23.040 --> 1:21:29.160 mistake even having any sort of, you know, conversation with 1:21:29.400 --> 1:21:33.360 that guy. It depends on what he values. I wouldn't 1:21:33.400 --> 1:21:35.960 have no conversation with that motherfucker for no amount of money. 1:21:36.760 --> 1:21:39.439 Whack might value something different, you know what I mean. 1:21:39.520 --> 1:21:42.200 It could be money. Maybe he never plans to be 1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:44.519 on Crenshaw Boulevard another day in his life, you know, 1:21:44.960 --> 1:21:46.840 Or he's not going or at the street races or 1:21:46.920 --> 1:21:50.240 in some level of street activity. Maybe he's transitioning to 1:21:50.320 --> 1:21:53.040 a business world. None of the niggas that I fuck 1:21:53.080 --> 1:21:55.720 with on no street level would ever do it. Even 1:21:55.760 --> 1:21:58.080 the ones that's in his business, they will never do that. 1:21:58.560 --> 1:22:00.880 I don't give fuck what money, none of us fucking 1:22:00.960 --> 1:22:05.080 with that rat period at all, feel me. So, did 1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:07.280 Whack make a mistake, that's up to him. He had 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:10.080 to value whatever he benefited from doing it. But he 1:22:10.280 --> 1:22:15.519 knows that what he's saying is definitely you know, he 1:22:15.680 --> 1:22:17.840 know he's a snitch. He didn't he know he he 1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:20.080 know the boys a rat. He know he a rat. 1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:22.400 It's obviously he's a rat. He rat it in front 1:22:22.439 --> 1:22:26.360 of everybody on paperwork. He's a rat. It's obvious he's 1:22:26.360 --> 1:22:28.920 a rat. You know what I'm saying. So Whack would 1:22:28.920 --> 1:22:30.759 probably be the person to ask if he made a mistake. 1:22:30.840 --> 1:22:32.680 I don't think he should have did it. I think 1:22:32.760 --> 1:22:35.080 Whack making great money, you know, But then I'm not 1:22:35.160 --> 1:22:37.360 in the man pockets. I don't know what's important to him. 1:22:37.400 --> 1:22:39.439 I don't I don't know. I mean, even knowing him, 1:22:39.479 --> 1:22:41.400 I never sat down to say, man, what's important to 1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:45.360 you is, Let's say, wha truly does believe he's a civilian. 1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:49.080 It doesn't feel like you don't think, not one like 1:22:49.160 --> 1:22:51.680 one seventeen percent. He does not believe he's none of that. 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:54.479 It's not about that Whack. No, snitching has nothing to 1:22:54.560 --> 1:22:58.200 do with games. Whack is as smart, if not smarter 1:22:58.640 --> 1:23:01.040 than I am. He knows that why he's a snitch. 1:23:01.800 --> 1:23:04.200 But he also understands how to spend his story. He's 1:23:04.360 --> 1:23:07.559 really good at marketing. He's really good at what he does. 1:23:08.120 --> 1:23:10.880 But he know that boy is a snitch. And because 1:23:10.960 --> 1:23:14.200 he is representing power rule, because he is representing blood. 1:23:14.439 --> 1:23:15.920 I don't think you should have did it at all 1:23:16.160 --> 1:23:18.720 because it's a bad look for the culture. Feel me 1:23:18.840 --> 1:23:22.080 completely in my mind, But Whack is one individual that 1:23:22.200 --> 1:23:24.720 represents Whack when it's said and done. You know, as 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:27.440 much as we all want to hold each other accountable, 1:23:27.600 --> 1:23:30.000 I'm gonna keep being a representation for the streets and 1:23:30.080 --> 1:23:31.639 all of the people that look to me. And I'll 1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:33.320 never sit down with that rat. And if I'm in 1:23:33.720 --> 1:23:35.920 I'm like making them on the phone, hold up, I'm 1:23:35.960 --> 1:23:40.160 blowing feel me. I'm nigga fuck all that shit. I'm not. 1:23:40.280 --> 1:23:42.240 I'm getting away from you. Feel me or if we 1:23:42.320 --> 1:23:44.200 got an issue, IM finna get cracking on you. It 1:23:44.240 --> 1:23:46.280 ain't it ain't nothing personal, bro, you just a fucking 1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:50.280 raggedy ass, evil ass, fucking satan ass bitch ass nigga 1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:52.920 use a fucking I don't disagree with you on the 1:23:53.120 --> 1:23:55.240 kid's character. I do think that what he kind of 1:23:55.320 --> 1:23:59.720 did was expose a lot of hip hop to be 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:03.080 exactly that entertainment. When I'm not talking about with the 1:24:03.120 --> 1:24:04.840 whack thing, I mean just in general, like when he 1:24:04.880 --> 1:24:06.760 got out of jail and he, I mean he's seen it, 1:24:06.880 --> 1:24:09.640 ain't moving around rather nicely with no not I mean, 1:24:09.720 --> 1:24:12.720 I know, like like they overselling it. No, no, no, 1:24:12.840 --> 1:24:15.479 I know, so like he'd be with a lot of YouTube. 1:24:15.840 --> 1:24:18.240 I've heard. I've heard what you're talking about. I've heard that, right. 1:24:18.320 --> 1:24:23.280 But he's a really sinister kid. He's and he's not 1:24:23.320 --> 1:24:27.240 a kid. He's a really sinister, evil last man. You 1:24:27.240 --> 1:24:29.680 know what I'm saying. He's a really sinister, evil last man. 1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:34.000 He's really sinister. He's really evil. Nothing the body is cool, nothing, 1:24:34.080 --> 1:24:36.559 the bodym is good. Him dying would be the best 1:24:36.560 --> 1:24:39.360 thing that happened to his daughter. That's how fucked up 1:24:39.400 --> 1:24:42.400 over a motherfucker he is. Like, he's a horrible human being. 1:24:43.400 --> 1:24:45.680 His family would be better off without him. He's that 1:24:45.960 --> 1:24:49.680 horrible like you don't meet y'all don't see it's it's 1:24:49.760 --> 1:24:52.080 hidden behind all the bullshit and this rap shit, or 1:24:52.400 --> 1:24:56.080 you know he's exposed, he's not. He's evil, like he's 1:24:56.120 --> 1:24:58.400 a different level of sinister and he's a coward and 1:24:58.520 --> 1:25:01.120 he's not willing to be held account. He's doing ship 1:25:01.160 --> 1:25:03.599 where he know people can't get to him. He goes 1:25:03.680 --> 1:25:05.559 places in the middle of times when he know people 1:25:05.600 --> 1:25:07.800 that he's not walking up on people. And if he's 1:25:07.840 --> 1:25:09.680 walking up on him now, it's because he has a 1:25:09.720 --> 1:25:13.599 support of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. That's it. Nothing 1:25:13.680 --> 1:25:15.920 about him is good. His daughter would be better off 1:25:16.000 --> 1:25:19.720 without him, Like I hope you feel me. Eventually he 1:25:19.960 --> 1:25:23.120 understands how fucked up of a fucking human being he is. 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:26.919 He's a piece of shit, fucking rap and whack noses 1:25:27.560 --> 1:25:32.240 Whack knows whack know this. He not, he know, you know, 1:25:32.479 --> 1:25:36.439 they know, we all know. You've had a storied career 1:25:36.680 --> 1:25:41.000 in terms of obviously your come up, some of the 1:25:41.439 --> 1:25:46.439 labels you've been with, some of the tours you've been on. Uh, 1:25:46.960 --> 1:25:49.640 you know, I think I first had got hip to 1:25:50.280 --> 1:25:53.800 you on one of the early Black Wall street mixtapes 1:25:56.040 --> 1:25:58.080 sounds about right. I feel like that. Yeah, that's where 1:25:58.080 --> 1:26:04.040 I started peace fold and then obviously you know, from there, 1:26:04.600 --> 1:26:08.519 you know, you end up with cash money. Cash money 1:26:08.600 --> 1:26:11.120 is a place, and Birdman is a guy who seems 1:26:11.160 --> 1:26:14.560 to be He's a legend, first of all, when it 1:26:14.640 --> 1:26:18.280 comes to just his tree is crazy. Probably to go. 1:26:18.720 --> 1:26:21.400 When it comes to his tree, either tree or Dre's tree, 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:28.040 you gotta go. Yeah, Dre and Russ and Stunner probably 1:26:28.080 --> 1:26:33.160 got the trees of all trees. And so he's also 1:26:33.240 --> 1:26:35.120 a guy who's had some sort of like you know, 1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:38.960 polarized love hate thing going on the last ten years 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:41.559 or so. When it comes to like him, what's perceived 1:26:41.600 --> 1:26:44.919 as him maybe doing artists wrong. So sign the shitty contracts, 1:26:44.960 --> 1:26:48.240 whatever the case is, right, how is your experience on 1:26:48.360 --> 1:26:51.200 cash money great? It was, And I'm not saying it 1:26:51.320 --> 1:26:53.320 like I have no fear of none of that, no 1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:55.920 motherfucker right, But the dude was great to me. I 1:26:56.040 --> 1:26:58.439 learned more shit than I ever knew about the business. 1:27:00.520 --> 1:27:04.960 I learned the time, man, Like, it was awesome to me. Now, 1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:07.759 let me ask you this, because you you also correct 1:27:07.760 --> 1:27:10.040 me if I'm wrong. Were you also who banging as well. Yeah, 1:27:10.200 --> 1:27:13.120 same time Max Ten. So because I remember mac ten 1:27:13.240 --> 1:27:15.040 had banger Ball, which is one of the most slept 1:27:15.120 --> 1:27:19.200 on albums. Yeah, I like that that album's and he 1:27:19.320 --> 1:27:21.920 was on Cash Money. Was that who kind of introduced 1:27:21.920 --> 1:27:26.320 you into the cash ma? Ma ten? Did I feel 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:28.280 like mac ten? We don't give him enough flowers? Man? 1:27:28.479 --> 1:27:30.640 You know, I agree? I agree because mac Ten I 1:27:30.720 --> 1:27:32.800 feel like he's not as active. We don't see him 1:27:32.840 --> 1:27:34.840 on like interviews like we see a lot of these 1:27:34.880 --> 1:27:37.640 other out of itself. You see his lad interview. He 1:27:37.760 --> 1:27:40.760 was like, yes, he wouldn't answer no question. He was like, 1:27:41.200 --> 1:27:44.200 was that what they said? Well, they said, y'all saw 1:27:44.240 --> 1:27:47.600 the thirty seven people, That's what they said. I was like, 1:27:48.400 --> 1:27:50.720 you knows what, you know what to do. But but 1:27:51.280 --> 1:27:53.479 so your your time on Cash Money was solid, Like 1:27:53.600 --> 1:27:57.320 what was amazing so far in your rap career? Right, 1:27:58.439 --> 1:28:02.479 because you've done records with everybody, what has been one 1:28:02.600 --> 1:28:05.679 time where you can remember as like your fondest memory 1:28:05.720 --> 1:28:09.120 as a fan of this shit while being in it, 1:28:09.240 --> 1:28:11.160 while being in it where you almost were like, damn, 1:28:11.160 --> 1:28:13.000 look who I'm standing next to or damn, look who 1:28:13.040 --> 1:28:14.559 I'm on the stage with it, or Damn. Look who 1:28:14.560 --> 1:28:17.200 I'm on this record with, Like, what was that moment 1:28:17.280 --> 1:28:21.000 for you? Just recently with Rafaeosa Dick. Wow, I know 1:28:21.080 --> 1:28:25.559 that's crazy right through. So Scarface probably is my favorite rapper. 1:28:25.640 --> 1:28:29.639 So I take that back right, I'm not taking it back. 1:28:29.640 --> 1:28:31.599 It's three moments. I can't do one because now it's 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:34.080 been so long, it's been fifteen years. So it's three 1:28:34.200 --> 1:28:37.760 specific times. The first time is when jay Z. I 1:28:37.880 --> 1:28:39.840 was in jay Z's office at Depth jamming. He was 1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:41.960 like talking about how dope I was and he wanted 1:28:41.960 --> 1:28:43.320 to sign me, and he was like, Yo, you wanted 1:28:43.360 --> 1:28:45.080 the best I ever heard do it from the West. 1:28:46.120 --> 1:28:50.320 That shit. I couldn't even talk during the whole meeting. 1:28:50.880 --> 1:28:53.479 Like my nigga d one of my best friends, had 1:28:53.520 --> 1:28:56.439 to talk for me because I had listened. I had 1:28:56.479 --> 1:28:59.439 consumed that much hole. I mean to where I'm living 1:28:59.479 --> 1:29:01.760 my life, ain't in drugs, to this nigging music. And 1:29:01.800 --> 1:29:03.439 one day I'm sitting in his office and he telling 1:29:03.520 --> 1:29:07.800 me how great I am. Like that shit fucked me up. 1:29:08.120 --> 1:29:10.320 That's tough, like you, I mean, that was like tough. 1:29:10.439 --> 1:29:12.200 Not signing to him was tough. You know what I'm saying? 1:29:14.040 --> 1:29:18.599 That was one of them, the second one of them 1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:31.519 probably Okay, So then that's where the roth Felsa Dieke 1:29:31.600 --> 1:29:33.400 comes in. I just did a record with him, probably 1:29:33.400 --> 1:29:36.519 with the within a year ago, and you know, I 1:29:36.680 --> 1:29:38.439 was talking to him Richie rich hooked me up with 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:40.759 him and he gave me my number and we was talking, 1:29:40.920 --> 1:29:42.320 chopping up. He's like, yeah, I know you is I 1:29:42.400 --> 1:29:46.280 fuck with your ship? You tough? And and I sent 1:29:46.400 --> 1:29:48.840 him a record and just how helpful he was he 1:29:48.960 --> 1:29:52.920 was explaining certain things. That ship was like crazy, it's 1:29:53.040 --> 1:29:56.160 ro it's my mom. You know, it's kind of like 1:29:56.280 --> 1:29:58.600 one of my mom's favorite bands, Tony Tony Tone. I 1:29:58.680 --> 1:30:00.400 grew up to this ship and this is I feel 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:02.960 a deep Like still Ray is my ship for R 1:30:02.960 --> 1:30:05.719 and B for me. So that ship was like Cray. 1:30:05.800 --> 1:30:07.840 Even now sometimes be like I got his number in 1:30:07.920 --> 1:30:11.160 my phone, I'll be like, damn, I feel it's a deep. 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:17.479 And the third one is not really me right, the 1:30:17.600 --> 1:30:21.320 third one is and I don't think people really know. 1:30:21.439 --> 1:30:28.639 But it's when Jay Rock win went gold. Hmmm, right, 1:30:28.840 --> 1:30:31.120 why was that such a big deal? Because I know 1:30:31.200 --> 1:30:33.519 where we came from. I know how much shit we 1:30:33.640 --> 1:30:36.240 went through, and Jay Rock for people who don't know, 1:30:36.439 --> 1:30:39.080 like there was an entire generation in La hip hop 1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:42.240 that was kind of shunned exactly, and and and he 1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:43.800 was a part of it. You were a part of it, 1:30:43.880 --> 1:30:46.960 and so many others were part of it. And because 1:30:47.000 --> 1:30:50.040 forever the only only dude that really had any attention 1:30:50.280 --> 1:30:54.919 or love was Game. Yeah, we doctor dre production. Honestly, 1:30:55.000 --> 1:30:56.840 it matters. The producer is the key, you know what 1:30:56.840 --> 1:31:03.040 I'm saying. But Jay Rock Win, when I seen when 1:31:03.200 --> 1:31:05.200 they had put out a press release that they went gold. 1:31:05.320 --> 1:31:07.000 So the first record that he you know, he had 1:31:07.040 --> 1:31:11.160 the record that was the future and Kendrick right, that's 1:31:11.200 --> 1:31:15.120 platinum right right. But then when Win happened and I 1:31:15.240 --> 1:31:18.680 seen the press release go out, like it was like 1:31:18.760 --> 1:31:21.080 a part of me that just felt like Wade came off, 1:31:21.280 --> 1:31:23.280 you know, like my shoulders and it had shit to 1:31:23.360 --> 1:31:26.800 do with me. I mean, it was just like damn man, 1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:28.720 like look what we had to go through to get here, 1:31:28.960 --> 1:31:32.360 Like it's it's fucking me up there later, you know 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:34.880 what I mean. Like, and like my nigga went through 1:31:34.920 --> 1:31:36.599 a lot. Man. We don't even talk as much as 1:31:36.680 --> 1:31:38.240 we used to. You know, we don't see each other 1:31:38.240 --> 1:31:41.000 as much as we used to, but like that shit 1:31:41.120 --> 1:31:44.080 meant so much to me, Like that ship was so important. 1:31:44.240 --> 1:31:46.920 I had to see that happen. You know, I think 1:31:46.960 --> 1:31:50.360 about Pe and certain homies all the time. Problem Bishop, 1:31:50.520 --> 1:31:52.080 you know, all the shit we went through just to 1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:56.320 try to bring the West Coast together and to be shunned. Yeah, 1:31:56.479 --> 1:32:00.160 nip man, like that ship. It bothers me, but I 1:32:00.240 --> 1:32:02.759 can't see him get his shit. You know, everybody finally 1:32:02.920 --> 1:32:05.000 showing him love, and it's like y'all waited till this 1:32:05.160 --> 1:32:07.679 man was gone. Now. I remember having interviews with Nipsey 1:32:07.760 --> 1:32:10.040 were around the time where he was really not fucking 1:32:10.080 --> 1:32:12.200 with the fact that Dre was not co signing all 1:32:12.280 --> 1:32:14.559 these young We all went through that, yeah, I mean, 1:32:14.680 --> 1:32:16.760 and we knew how important. We just didn't know why. 1:32:16.840 --> 1:32:19.960 But we figured out why it was so important. But honestly, man, 1:32:20.040 --> 1:32:23.240 that Jay Rock getting that gold plaque for when like that, 1:32:23.439 --> 1:32:25.960 for sure is the most thirst And I celebrated it 1:32:26.080 --> 1:32:29.200 to myself. I mean, I wrote a song a verse 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:32.280 about it on somebody Else's feature and talked about how 1:32:32.400 --> 1:32:34.920 hard it was for all of us and how it 1:32:35.080 --> 1:32:36.840 finally happened for him. You know what I'm saying that 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:38.880 shit is like one of the greatest things. It's like 1:32:38.960 --> 1:32:41.000 one of the greatest stories in hip hop that's not 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:43.960 told how much shit he went through. If y'all know 1:32:44.040 --> 1:32:46.639 how much shit he went through, man, and how cold 1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:48.679 it was for us, and how niggas shut us down 1:32:48.800 --> 1:32:52.400 and shut us out, and you don't realize, like that 1:32:52.640 --> 1:32:55.880 label was started on Jay Rock's back exactly. You know 1:32:55.920 --> 1:33:00.400 what I'm saying. People don't understand the different Like there 1:33:00.479 --> 1:33:02.240 was the he was on Warner Brothers and then that 1:33:02.720 --> 1:33:04.519 they don't know how to handle nobody on the West Coast, 1:33:04.960 --> 1:33:06.360 you know what I'm saying. So that didn't work out, 1:33:06.400 --> 1:33:08.120 and then they tried to strange music then put them 1:33:08.160 --> 1:33:09.760 on Toward with tech, you know what I mean. Like 1:33:09.840 --> 1:33:11.880 there's so much and when it all came down, it 1:33:12.000 --> 1:33:14.360 was right there. It was all sitting right there, and 1:33:14.560 --> 1:33:18.160 so just the watch that happened was like, man, it 1:33:18.320 --> 1:33:20.680 was special. Even every time I hear the commercial like 1:33:20.760 --> 1:33:24.040 I just smiled and such a that's so soon it's 1:33:24.040 --> 1:33:27.280 gonna lift forever. Yeah snks in movies and hear it 1:33:27.320 --> 1:33:30.800 in Singsic Sports Center. I just smiled so big and 1:33:30.880 --> 1:33:33.240 then nobody know what I'm thinking, but I'm like, man, 1:33:33.479 --> 1:33:37.080 thank god, yeah, feel me, thank God. What was your 1:33:37.200 --> 1:33:41.840 most successful record, certified? Was it? What was your biggest 1:33:41.880 --> 1:33:44.479 record as far as like, so Certified is somewhere close 1:33:44.560 --> 1:33:48.880 to God, I would say that Good. I think that 1:33:49.000 --> 1:33:51.280 Good is my greatest record. It may not be the 1:33:51.400 --> 1:33:55.479 most that has soul right, but it's the one to 1:33:56.360 --> 1:34:01.120 head exactly first beat and but it was the one 1:34:01.200 --> 1:34:02.920 we built from the ground up, and to me, it 1:34:03.040 --> 1:34:05.680 was the first time one of my records was celebrated 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:10.040 went with great club record. No, not the akond of Setter, 1:34:10.080 --> 1:34:13.280 for obviously, that's a fantast tomb Like you know, what 1:34:13.360 --> 1:34:16.200 song I really loved was the one with the what 1:34:16.320 --> 1:34:17.880 was the name of that that group that was on 1:34:17.960 --> 1:34:20.600 the hook I Get money or I Get There, I 1:34:20.680 --> 1:34:24.960 Get There? That was so dope, the cataracts I get. 1:34:25.240 --> 1:34:29.160 But the most important obviously is Tupac Must Die. That's 1:34:29.240 --> 1:34:32.160 the one that's when I finally put my own brick 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:33.880 in hip hop and it had my name on it. 1:34:34.680 --> 1:34:37.840 For that, like the whole culture, they couldn't unify behind 1:34:37.960 --> 1:34:41.559 me for no moment when it comes to music, I mean, 1:34:41.640 --> 1:34:45.240 and that became that moment where it's like, damn, I'm there. 1:34:45.840 --> 1:34:47.240 You know what I'm saying. So now I feel like 1:34:47.360 --> 1:34:50.640 i'm you know really that's why I got. I got 1:34:50.680 --> 1:34:52.920 shipped to do still ship that make crack, I got 1:34:53.000 --> 1:34:55.960 its own. I know you're sitting on I mean, you 1:34:56.080 --> 1:34:59.519 haven't put out a ton of music. I'm just starting 1:34:59.600 --> 1:35:02.240 putting out singles again. Just mean in terms of like 1:35:02.360 --> 1:35:05.400 your output hasn't been crazy, but the song doesn't matter. Yeah, 1:35:05.400 --> 1:35:09.000 but it's gonna go up now. Me and you feel 1:35:09.080 --> 1:35:11.920 the same way about one album, and that is Doggy Style. 1:35:13.280 --> 1:35:16.040 I think Doggy Style is in my life, the most 1:35:16.080 --> 1:35:19.360 important album ever. Definitely the greatest hip hop of all time. 1:35:19.760 --> 1:35:22.080 I put it around two or three, you know the 1:35:22.240 --> 1:35:26.360 number one clearly, but Doggy Style like changed my life. 1:35:26.680 --> 1:35:28.639 That was What's funny is I wasn't even a fan 1:35:28.720 --> 1:35:32.360 of Doggy Style like that. That's literally probably twelve years 1:35:32.400 --> 1:35:35.240 old or thirteen years old, bro. I was five and 1:35:35.360 --> 1:35:38.120 my grandma got that tape on accident in the mail. 1:35:38.680 --> 1:35:39.760 Remember it used to be able to go in the 1:35:39.840 --> 1:35:42.479 magazine and remember that. So she had like fifteen tapes 1:35:42.520 --> 1:35:44.240 delivered to her house and one of them was Doggy Style. 1:35:44.240 --> 1:35:45.880 I don't know how I got in there. But my 1:35:45.920 --> 1:35:48.240 grandma's old as fuck. She didn't fucking Snoop Dog That's 1:35:48.240 --> 1:35:50.439 how I fuck got It's a fucking cartoon cover. She 1:35:50.520 --> 1:35:53.120 don't know what it was, Snoop DOGG so she gave everybody. 1:35:54.200 --> 1:35:56.320 So she gives me Doggy Style. And I had already 1:35:56.360 --> 1:35:58.880 had like boys de men, some boys dement shit right 1:35:59.560 --> 1:36:02.960 the dog you stay. I'm five, I'm in kindergarten, and 1:36:03.439 --> 1:36:05.559 I'm at night in my bed with my little walkman. 1:36:06.000 --> 1:36:10.040 This is horrible pearing just what's funny? That's why I 1:36:10.080 --> 1:36:12.560 had already learned the entire fucking album by heart. And 1:36:12.640 --> 1:36:14.800 then my mom had heard me listening to it and 1:36:15.000 --> 1:36:17.320 freaked out and took it, took the tape from me. 1:36:17.439 --> 1:36:19.040 So I already knew it, and then I and then 1:36:19.040 --> 1:36:22.120 I found it and took it back, and yeah, what's 1:36:22.160 --> 1:36:24.720 funny is I have no personal connection. I just love 1:36:24.800 --> 1:36:26.479 that album. It is so I point the first time 1:36:26.479 --> 1:36:27.920 I ever met Snoop, I'm like, bro, you changed my 1:36:27.960 --> 1:36:30.280 life with Dog. You don't understand like you you know, 1:36:30.439 --> 1:36:32.040 keep turning me out as a five year old. I 1:36:32.120 --> 1:36:35.120 have no personal connection to It's just such a person. 1:36:35.160 --> 1:36:36.880 I think it's a perfect album. And I think Snoop 1:36:36.920 --> 1:36:41.040 Dogg is, like, you know, I feel like somehow he's 1:36:41.080 --> 1:36:43.800 still underappreciate it. But he's the greatest hip hop artist ever. 1:36:43.920 --> 1:36:46.240 He's the greatest hip hop artist ever with the greatest 1:36:46.320 --> 1:36:50.080 hip hop album ever. And again it's tough. It's in 1:36:50.200 --> 1:36:52.680 your face. I mean, Snoop is, like I was just 1:36:52.760 --> 1:36:55.160 telling my partner, and I say this a lot Snoopers 1:36:55.240 --> 1:36:59.240 like McDonald's. Man, he came out, you feel me, big Matt. 1:36:59.280 --> 1:37:01.519 You know that he had to gangster rap like it's 1:37:01.600 --> 1:37:05.240 fast food, like it's the Big Mags gangster rap. And 1:37:05.920 --> 1:37:09.320 since then he's been able to deliver pimping and chicken nuggets, 1:37:09.680 --> 1:37:11.519 you know what I'm saying. He been able to deliver 1:37:11.680 --> 1:37:15.519 gospel albums and parfas and all kind of reggae ship 1:37:15.640 --> 1:37:18.280 and all kind of shit and everything in the world. 1:37:18.320 --> 1:37:20.120 I think he's the I think I think he's the biggest. 1:37:21.080 --> 1:37:22.880 You know, I think Snoop, I think when you say 1:37:22.880 --> 1:37:25.000 he's the greatest, so I said the greatest, I understand 1:37:25.040 --> 1:37:27.400 that because he's the biggest. He's like you said, he's 1:37:27.400 --> 1:37:29.479 like McDonald's. Because nobody doesn't know who Snoop is. I 1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:32.000 don't care how old you are. Exactly, my ninet year 1:37:32.000 --> 1:37:35.000 old lady knows who Snoop Dogg is. Exactly. Nobody has 1:37:35.040 --> 1:37:37.559 ever been there know him because he's a fucking rapper. 1:37:38.080 --> 1:37:40.120 They don't know him because he does this that that, 1:37:40.600 --> 1:37:45.040 Oh the rapper Snoop. It's Snoop Man. And I've been 1:37:45.120 --> 1:37:47.320 hearing a lot of slack about that, like people like 1:37:47.400 --> 1:37:50.160 I don't have no personal I don't have no personal 1:37:50.200 --> 1:37:52.960 connection to Doggie staff. That's not like I heard you 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:55.519 know who in mind the songs like okay cool, but 1:37:55.680 --> 1:37:57.760 when I was coming into my own, For me, I'm 1:37:57.800 --> 1:38:00.639 more of a baby dog food, you know what I mean, 1:38:01.000 --> 1:38:03.840 or the shadiest one. I'm a baby at those product. 1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:05.600 I know you love the shadiest Yeah, like with a 1:38:05.600 --> 1:38:08.439 whole other regards, but doggy style is what hip hop 1:38:08.600 --> 1:38:11.720 is all about. Like when Cool hirking them through that 1:38:11.880 --> 1:38:14.960 party on August eleventh, I think it's nineteen seventy three, 1:38:15.320 --> 1:38:16.599 you know what I mean, And it was a party 1:38:18.360 --> 1:38:22.719 that's Snoop Dogg's music. You came to the most cultural 1:38:22.800 --> 1:38:26.840 phenomenon of a party ever with that project. Yeah, I 1:38:26.920 --> 1:38:31.120 think Snoop has not only that album, but I just 1:38:31.160 --> 1:38:35.120 think in terms of like figuring out, like everyone who 1:38:35.200 --> 1:38:38.800 does music, their goal should be to figure out what's 1:38:38.840 --> 1:38:42.120 Snoop figured out? And that's how to no matter what's 1:38:42.160 --> 1:38:44.040 going on, Like Snoop don't need a record on the 1:38:44.120 --> 1:38:46.240 radio to be relevant. Snoop is never not going to 1:38:46.280 --> 1:38:49.280 be relevant never, And how do you do think about it? 1:38:49.360 --> 1:38:55.599 I was at home on Peacock watching this motherfucker literally 1:38:55.720 --> 1:38:57.840 throwing on. I'm not watching the Olympics. I've been watching 1:38:57.840 --> 1:39:00.639 the Snoop talk about the Olympic. Snoop fuck was throwing 1:39:00.640 --> 1:39:03.200 the javelin cuz and that bro, you got hit them. 1:39:03.880 --> 1:39:06.920 He's not an Olympic. NBC jacket on talking about how 1:39:06.960 --> 1:39:10.280 the horse was Kripwalker and he's, Cousin, that's what I'm saying. 1:39:10.320 --> 1:39:13.479 He's cussing, you know, he's yes, you know he's talking 1:39:13.520 --> 1:39:16.280 about the man. That horse is krip walking. I see 1:39:16.360 --> 1:39:19.920 him on Channel eleven, cousin Christina Devine, Look Christina Cuz. 1:39:19.920 --> 1:39:23.080 I was like, god, damn, that's really what Greaton has 1:39:23.160 --> 1:39:27.760 looked like. This motherfucker is crazy. But again, man, when 1:39:27.800 --> 1:39:29.920 you really step back and you look at that, like 1:39:30.000 --> 1:39:32.320 I said, you go back to August eleven, nineteen seventy 1:39:32.360 --> 1:39:36.040 there it's a party. Is Doctor Drake DJing Snoop on them? 1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:37.720 I think the only artist I've seen that might have 1:39:37.800 --> 1:39:40.519 a chance to be that big, like in thirty years 1:39:40.600 --> 1:39:42.120 is maybe Drake. But I don't think Drake has the 1:39:42.160 --> 1:39:46.759 personality or the chemistry the Snoop ass. Drake doesn't represent culture. 1:39:46.880 --> 1:39:49.840 That's the problem. I mean, like Snoop is the phenomenon 1:39:49.960 --> 1:39:53.040 because he's the centerpiece in the face of probably Black 1:39:53.120 --> 1:39:59.719 America's greatest, maybe not as celebrated, but most famous culture. 1:40:00.080 --> 1:40:04.080 Gang culture. Man, he is the face of it, right, crips, 1:40:04.240 --> 1:40:06.639 and he was the face over here, was the face 1:40:06.720 --> 1:40:08.400 of it during a time when the allure was at 1:40:08.400 --> 1:40:10.240 an all time high. Well think about it, right you 1:40:10.400 --> 1:40:13.000 you we talked about this the other day. Colors is 1:40:13.040 --> 1:40:16.639 the initial exposure at the highest level. Right, you move forward, 1:40:16.760 --> 1:40:18.439 you get Boys in the Hood, which is a film 1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:21.920 about it that does seventy million right in ninety one, 1:40:22.000 --> 1:40:26.320 and then here go these niggas, you know, doctor Dread Snoop. 1:40:26.479 --> 1:40:28.639 It's like a they picked up Boys in the Hood 1:40:28.680 --> 1:40:31.760 and just like, let's finish it off, and Snoop just 1:40:31.920 --> 1:40:34.320 took it to a level. You know, Ice T Gangs 1:40:34.400 --> 1:40:37.920 wrapping and Snoop just finished and he's the face. Drake's 1:40:38.000 --> 1:40:40.720 situation is different because he's just a pop star. Drake 1:40:40.800 --> 1:40:43.639 has always been a pop star. It's like Snoop didn't 1:40:43.640 --> 1:40:46.360 start as a pop star. No, and even now as 1:40:46.400 --> 1:40:47.840 much as a pop he's still not a pop star. 1:40:47.920 --> 1:40:50.280 He's still not a pop still Snoop Dogg, He's still Snoop. 1:40:50.360 --> 1:40:54.040 Like he ascends past some of these things. Like you said, 1:40:54.120 --> 1:40:58.519 some shit don't make sense and Snoop, I like if 1:40:58.560 --> 1:41:01.080 you were to say, like Snoop would be if we think, 1:41:01.240 --> 1:41:03.479 you know, thirty years down the line that Snoop would 1:41:03.479 --> 1:41:07.439 be hosting shows of Martha Stewart or hosting the Olympics, 1:41:08.200 --> 1:41:10.240 you would just in nineteen ninety four, someone would have 1:41:10.280 --> 1:41:11.960 told you that. You would have said, what if you'd 1:41:12.000 --> 1:41:13.400 have told me he was going to be out of prison? 1:41:14.040 --> 1:41:17.679 Goody was gonna go to fucking prison for murder? So again, man, 1:41:18.280 --> 1:41:24.559 Snoop is just different, anomaly man, everything you know Sug. 1:41:24.720 --> 1:41:27.120 You know, Shug doesn't get enough credit, Doctor Dre doesn't 1:41:27.120 --> 1:41:29.160 get enough credit. You know, you still got probably the 1:41:29.200 --> 1:41:32.120 greatest vision with sug Knight, who understood the vision for 1:41:32.240 --> 1:41:35.120 what was going on, right, and you got the greatest people, 1:41:35.320 --> 1:41:38.040 the greatest person probably at the time or period making 1:41:38.120 --> 1:41:42.959 hip hop records, I mean, and they put together August eleventh, 1:41:43.120 --> 1:41:47.000 nineteen seventy three, the greatest party the West Coast ever had. 1:41:47.840 --> 1:41:50.280 This is the greatest party we ever offered the world. 1:41:50.680 --> 1:41:53.160 Like you came to this party and Snoop is on 1:41:53.280 --> 1:41:55.360 the mic and Warren g is on the couch. It's 1:41:55.439 --> 1:41:58.519 the greatest party you've ever been to. You hear it. 1:41:59.000 --> 1:42:01.080 They got the liquor, they got a special liquor that 1:42:01.160 --> 1:42:03.040 they drag, and you drank gin and juice. You got 1:42:03.080 --> 1:42:06.840 the lingo. It's the culture is there? Feel me? It's 1:42:06.880 --> 1:42:08.960 the greatest party you could go to. It. No matter 1:42:09.040 --> 1:42:11.640 what we think about hip hop, it's still rooted in 1:42:11.720 --> 1:42:14.160 a party. Well, it's funny because you and I have 1:42:14.360 --> 1:42:17.760 had an argument about You said, Drake's not hip hop, no, no, 1:42:17.800 --> 1:42:20.679 no no, And I said, listen, Drake makes hip hop music. 1:42:20.960 --> 1:42:22.960 And you said, well, Drake, there's no culture with Drake. 1:42:23.080 --> 1:42:28.519 I think Drake makes rap records, okay. And I understand 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:31.920 the concept of and the reason I really kind of 1:42:32.000 --> 1:42:34.280 didn't even care about this conversation no more is because 1:42:34.720 --> 1:42:37.800 I never thought of it as a derogatory thing. Like 1:42:37.920 --> 1:42:42.240 I never thought as a derogatory thing to classify things. 1:42:42.280 --> 1:42:44.280 I don't Again, I'm back to the same point of 1:42:44.400 --> 1:42:46.320 I don't care how you want me to look at you. 1:42:46.960 --> 1:42:49.439 Let's talk about the classification of things so we have 1:42:49.600 --> 1:42:51.960 some sense of things that we can share, versus we 1:42:52.120 --> 1:42:54.400 creating the world where everybody could be anything they want. 1:42:54.479 --> 1:42:57.080 I don't like that, right, Like, you know what I mean. 1:42:57.160 --> 1:42:59.960 I don't think that's wise. I think that's really ignorant. 1:43:00.000 --> 1:43:01.720 And it's going to come into a place more. You're 1:43:01.720 --> 1:43:03.439 gonna bread a lot of people wasting their time. It's 1:43:03.439 --> 1:43:07.559 gonna be a lot of people already confused. We already 1:43:07.560 --> 1:43:10.400 come into this world confused, and you're allowing me to 1:43:10.560 --> 1:43:13.000 exist in the space of confusion, right, which means a 1:43:13.040 --> 1:43:18.200 suicide rate is gonna go up. But with Drake specifically, 1:43:18.360 --> 1:43:22.200 hip hop is culture. It's lingo, it's style, its cuisine, 1:43:22.240 --> 1:43:26.439 it's fashion. Everything about it is the flavor. Feel me. 1:43:26.720 --> 1:43:29.519 The flavor. It's like you know what I mean, It's 1:43:29.600 --> 1:43:33.680 like soulful, It's like like yes, like the concept of 1:43:33.760 --> 1:43:37.280 fried Chicken initially could be soul for right. That don't 1:43:37.280 --> 1:43:41.719 mean Kentucky Fried Chicken sell soul food. They got greens, 1:43:41.880 --> 1:43:44.680 that don't mean they sell soul food. They got all 1:43:44.720 --> 1:43:47.040 this stuff that don't mean they sell soul. Full rapp 1:43:47.600 --> 1:43:50.560 was popularized by hip hop, but it is not exclusive. 1:43:50.800 --> 1:43:54.120 Debbie Harry was rapping in the saying, Drake makes rap music, 1:43:54.600 --> 1:43:57.120 but he's not hip hop. No, I think that he's 1:43:57.160 --> 1:44:00.679 not a cultured rapper. He has no culture. He doesn't 1:44:00.720 --> 1:44:04.920 represent any culture. Drake is a fantastic rapper who makes 1:44:05.000 --> 1:44:08.400 fantastic rap songs that turn into pop songs. And he 1:44:08.439 --> 1:44:11.040 could sing his fucking ass off the way he sings. 1:44:11.080 --> 1:44:14.960 He can carry a note only the way he can. 1:44:15.200 --> 1:44:18.799 He makes fantastic records. NonStop is one of my favorite 1:44:18.840 --> 1:44:23.160 fucking records period, feel me. But again, to compare him 1:44:23.200 --> 1:44:26.160 to somebody that's carrying the burden of culture on their back, 1:44:26.479 --> 1:44:29.519 like a Jay Z or a Snoop, These dudes represent 1:44:30.320 --> 1:44:35.360 entire rams of worlds of shit. I mean, ideas, all 1:44:35.439 --> 1:44:37.639 of this. They represent it with the way they talk, 1:44:37.720 --> 1:44:40.679 the way they speak, everything about what they're doing there, 1:44:41.080 --> 1:44:43.800 they're walking with more. Drake is a I mean, and 1:44:43.840 --> 1:44:46.000 I don't want to simplify his life because I'm sure 1:44:46.040 --> 1:44:48.000 he had his own struggles. But this is a kid 1:44:48.080 --> 1:44:51.160 that come from Nickelodeon. That's a rapper, what you know. 1:44:51.160 --> 1:44:53.880 I mean, it's just a different plight. This nigga came 1:44:53.920 --> 1:44:56.479 from a Doe spot. This nigga came from feel Me 1:44:56.640 --> 1:45:04.160 Long Beach cripping. The plifs are different calling you know, man, 1:45:04.479 --> 1:45:07.480 it's just crazy. But again, I never thought of THEFC analogies. 1:45:07.680 --> 1:45:09.360 I mean, it makes sense. Yeah, I never thought of 1:45:09.439 --> 1:45:11.760 it as a negative connotation. I didn't think could Drake 1:45:11.840 --> 1:45:14.400 be considered one of the greatest of all time? Then 1:45:14.439 --> 1:45:20.920 in your eyes artists rapper MC, yeah it's a rapper. Sure, 1:45:20.960 --> 1:45:23.519 hell yeah, I'm a fucker rap. I'm a fucker rap. 1:45:23.560 --> 1:45:28.280 But again, hip hop is his own special thing. So 1:45:28.479 --> 1:45:30.160 like he could be one of the greatest rappers. He 1:45:30.200 --> 1:45:32.880 could rap his eyes off that MoU he could rap. 1:45:33.360 --> 1:45:35.680 I mean, but then again, people talk about righting and 1:45:35.760 --> 1:45:37.640 all kind of shit. But yeah, I mean, listen, I 1:45:37.680 --> 1:45:41.000 think that that's a discussion that's been beat over the head. 1:45:41.160 --> 1:45:47.720 I think Drake, I'm confident Drake and rapping. It's it's obvious. Yeah, 1:45:47.840 --> 1:45:50.800 I mean now, now, Steven wanted to what I have 1:45:51.040 --> 1:45:54.000 liked him to have replied to push your t Sure, 1:45:54.840 --> 1:45:57.000 that's different. He didn't want that smoke. You don't go 1:45:57.160 --> 1:45:59.760 to the cultures, different when you go into the root 1:45:59.760 --> 1:46:02.040 of culture. But he but he did get me. He 1:46:02.160 --> 1:46:03.800 got Meek Miller b out of here for a couple 1:46:03.840 --> 1:46:06.960 of years. Yeah, but Meek is and as much as 1:46:07.080 --> 1:46:11.680 Mik is, that's different. Mik is somebody who literally his 1:46:11.880 --> 1:46:14.920 whole story is I was broken. I'm rich, that's fair. 1:46:15.320 --> 1:46:20.160 I mean, push is different. Push. I told everybody I 1:46:20.240 --> 1:46:23.200 said that that ain't Meek Mill, y'all better different And 1:46:23.479 --> 1:46:25.320 all these white kids who don't know about the clips 1:46:25.360 --> 1:46:27.400 and push your tea, y'all don't know what you're signing 1:46:27.520 --> 1:46:29.679 up for. And he knew if he gave a record, 1:46:29.720 --> 1:46:32.240 he would give life to that record. You don't want 1:46:32.280 --> 1:46:34.400 people to hear that record. So the best way to 1:46:34.479 --> 1:46:37.160 do it is just back away, like oh that you 1:46:37.240 --> 1:46:39.840 know that way you don't because if you mentioned him, 1:46:41.880 --> 1:46:44.160 people going to hear that. And when they hear that, 1:46:45.200 --> 1:46:47.479 you know, violence is violence, and they gonna know like 1:46:47.680 --> 1:46:52.519 that ship is savagery because that pushes the product of culture. 1:46:53.080 --> 1:46:56.200 That's savagery. Yeah. Push is one of my favorite rappers ever. 1:46:56.280 --> 1:46:59.360 So pushes some ship man that ship is fucking. I 1:46:59.479 --> 1:47:02.680 was just I was like chomping at the bed. And 1:47:02.760 --> 1:47:04.479 I'm one of those guys that was cheering for Drake 1:47:04.520 --> 1:47:07.120 and the Meek Meal battle and you know me too, 1:47:07.240 --> 1:47:08.960 me too. At the time, I just wanted him to 1:47:09.080 --> 1:47:11.960 fight back, like, don't let these dudes pick on you, yo, 1:47:12.120 --> 1:47:15.839 stand up, like, you know, get cracking. I didn't appreciate 1:47:15.960 --> 1:47:19.120 like Meek's whole entire Twitter ship, and I just thought 1:47:19.560 --> 1:47:21.960 I didn't. He stepped out of character a lot, and I, 1:47:22.320 --> 1:47:25.200 you know, I tend to find out it's his character, right, 1:47:26.600 --> 1:47:33.720 but look to find out at first he was so so. 1:47:33.880 --> 1:47:36.080 But when Drake came with fucking back to back, I 1:47:36.200 --> 1:47:39.439 remember li but but you know what, it might have 1:47:39.520 --> 1:47:42.080 fucked Drake up because he turned into a super tough 1:47:42.120 --> 1:47:44.840 guy after that. And then but but then Pushing t 1:47:45.080 --> 1:47:48.720 was like, hold up, it's different. Yeah. Push is one 1:47:48.760 --> 1:47:52.200 of those guys where you're like, you know the same 1:47:52.240 --> 1:47:54.479 thing with Kendricks is not a gangster rapper, but you know, 1:47:54.760 --> 1:47:57.320 nobody wants to with Kendrick. That's the product of culture. 1:47:57.400 --> 1:47:59.960 Nobody like like you notice, like I'm like, Yo, nobody 1:48:00.160 --> 1:48:02.680 want smoke a push your t Nobody wants smoke with 1:48:02.760 --> 1:48:05.960 Kendrick Lamar, And nobody really wants to smoke with Freddy 1:48:05.960 --> 1:48:10.280 Gibbs either, because fred has had some dare people to 1:48:10.280 --> 1:48:12.320 say his name on records. There's like certain artists where 1:48:12.320 --> 1:48:15.439 you're like, Yo, Royce to five nine, you don't want 1:48:15.479 --> 1:48:17.920 that problem. You don't want the Royce to five to 1:48:18.040 --> 1:48:20.920 nine problem on a record. Lupe was only until I 1:48:21.040 --> 1:48:23.639 was teasing give it their friends they got a podcast together. 1:48:23.840 --> 1:48:27.639 But what's funny is, look, so you don't want problems 1:48:27.680 --> 1:48:30.439 with the root of culture. Yeah, Like when you see 1:48:30.520 --> 1:48:35.760 somebody represents a bunch of people, like they represent a lifestyle, 1:48:35.840 --> 1:48:38.840 they represent through hopes and dreams, you don't want to 1:48:38.840 --> 1:48:41.400 fuck with that person. And some of these dudes really 1:48:41.479 --> 1:48:44.080 represent that and not being one. I mean, it's some 1:48:44.200 --> 1:48:47.719 guys that represent a lot. You just notice certain people 1:48:47.880 --> 1:48:50.920 like just you don't say their name, you know, you know, 1:48:50.960 --> 1:48:52.960 I will say this. One of those guys who I 1:48:53.040 --> 1:48:56.360 thought would just be a bad idea that step two 1:48:56.479 --> 1:49:00.439 was eminem but I thought MGK got them And I 1:49:00.479 --> 1:49:02.240 don't think he got him lyrically, but I think he 1:49:02.320 --> 1:49:04.639 wanted it. I don't even think Eminem has really good. 1:49:05.320 --> 1:49:08.200 My favorite Eminem disc record is the one with you MGK. 1:49:09.360 --> 1:49:12.360 My favorite ship was the Ship hits the Fan, like 1:49:12.560 --> 1:49:15.479 all that ship. I love that era when it was 1:49:15.640 --> 1:49:17.360 just a lot of mixtape ship to him talking. I 1:49:17.439 --> 1:49:23.240 talk about Jo rule that the only good disc records 1:49:23.600 --> 1:49:26.680 on Java was fifth Oh yeah, everything else. I could 1:49:26.720 --> 1:49:31.439 have just the Eminem But the Eminem record where he 1:49:31.520 --> 1:49:34.200 did mg K, that was one of my favorite because 1:49:34.200 --> 1:49:36.640 you know why, he had fun with it. I just 1:49:36.720 --> 1:49:41.200 think that mg K won because it was too close 1:49:42.520 --> 1:49:44.760 and mg K had a great record. Mg had a 1:49:44.800 --> 1:49:47.200 great record and the fact that we even thought about 1:49:47.240 --> 1:49:50.680 it means mg K one Eminem is is. By the way, 1:49:50.840 --> 1:49:52.760 MGK is not like he's a good rapper, you know 1:49:52.800 --> 1:49:56.200 what I'm saying. He's a rock but he's not in 1:49:56.280 --> 1:50:00.639 the same arena a world as MC. But the difference 1:50:00.760 --> 1:50:06.080 is a great song versus a great rap. Me Also, 1:50:06.160 --> 1:50:10.600 the subject matter was like, yeah, yeah, that's made a 1:50:10.640 --> 1:50:12.680 great record. The same thing think about think about so 1:50:12.760 --> 1:50:15.800 when Pusher put out his freestyle against Drake, Pusher wasn't 1:50:15.800 --> 1:50:18.240 even trying to rap. He was just he went to 1:50:18.280 --> 1:50:20.479 hit him up ro out with that first freestyle. That's 1:50:20.520 --> 1:50:22.679 why I couldn't wait to see the second record, because 1:50:22.680 --> 1:50:26.760 I'm like, oh, this is just him just being extremely 1:50:26.880 --> 1:50:30.640 disrespectful at hitting record. He hasn't even applied himself as 1:50:30.640 --> 1:50:33.840 an MC yet. Yeah, yeah, no, it's different again the 1:50:33.960 --> 1:50:36.679 root of culture. I like the eminem dis to MGK, 1:50:37.000 --> 1:50:39.479 Like I thought the this itself I was my favorite disc. 1:50:39.560 --> 1:50:41.080 I thought he had a lot of fun. I think 1:50:41.120 --> 1:50:44.040 he MC his ass off. But again, competing with a 1:50:45.000 --> 1:50:48.400 record is different. In MGK. That's probably mgk's best record too, 1:50:48.880 --> 1:50:51.800 it's not. I mean, I love MGK. He's been putting 1:50:51.800 --> 1:50:53.479 out some rock shit lately that reminds me of like 1:50:53.560 --> 1:50:55.439 Lincoln eighty two and shit. So I'm like, hey, this 1:50:55.920 --> 1:50:58.280 reminds me of high school. It was bad, east Side 1:50:58.360 --> 1:51:00.720 was cool. He had some cool joints, But that one 1:51:00.800 --> 1:51:03.800 is probably his greatest record, That's the thing. Yeah, I 1:51:03.920 --> 1:51:05.920 mean I feel the same way about NAS. I think 1:51:06.000 --> 1:51:08.560 ether is Noah's greatest word. I hate that beat. You 1:51:08.680 --> 1:51:12.200 hate the beat? I beat his fucking fire Ron browse 1:51:14.320 --> 1:51:19.320 ever the bitching you by coming favorite or greatest? My 1:51:19.439 --> 1:51:24.000 favorite favorite favorite, not greatest favorite. I think the greatest 1:51:24.080 --> 1:51:27.560 just hit him up, that's probably the greatest. You know, 1:51:27.640 --> 1:51:32.120 vasline is crazy. That's a toughness up there. My favorite 1:51:32.240 --> 1:51:39.920 Dish record, man, Honestly, the greatest is probably back to 1:51:40.000 --> 1:51:41.639 Back though, because that still gets played on the radio 1:51:41.640 --> 1:51:44.640 and in the club. Yeah, it's it's different too. That's 1:51:44.680 --> 1:51:48.360 a monster talking about just like a record for playability. 1:51:49.360 --> 1:51:52.439 Favorite Dish record. Damn, that's a good Dish you know what. 1:51:52.560 --> 1:51:55.280 I won't lie and it's probably gonn to be some ship. 1:51:55.320 --> 1:51:58.639 But dollars and cents DJ Quick oh man, that they said, 1:51:59.000 --> 1:52:01.080 eh T was shit? I continue, you left out the 1:52:01.120 --> 1:52:03.840 G because the G ain't in you? That record was 1:52:04.200 --> 1:52:08.880 fire fire. I ate about that. I said, when you 1:52:08.960 --> 1:52:11.800 heard that line, did you at least like because that 1:52:12.000 --> 1:52:15.479 line was crazy? We said, e I h T. But 1:52:15.520 --> 1:52:18.160 should I continue? You left out the G because the g' 1:52:19.680 --> 1:52:22.040 Oh no? He was like, yeah, no, that ship was hard. 1:52:22.080 --> 1:52:26.160 That was a good record. That one was like and 1:52:26.280 --> 1:52:30.400 I liked eight, I liked h. Steele, but it was like, fuck, nah, 1:52:30.560 --> 1:52:32.599 that ship was crazy. It had to be that Dollars 1:52:32.640 --> 1:52:35.960 and cents dollars and says it's legend that's a quick 1:52:35.960 --> 1:52:39.000 Another guy on the second is Takeover, and people don't 1:52:39.040 --> 1:52:41.200 talk about Takeover. Why. I don't think it's because it's 1:52:41.240 --> 1:52:44.040 not a full disc record. It's lines on it. We 1:52:44.200 --> 1:52:46.680 got a lot of people on Takeover. No, butsonically, I 1:52:46.760 --> 1:52:49.320 think it's probably my favorite. I think it's such a 1:52:49.479 --> 1:52:52.720 The beat is so good. Ether was great because I'm 1:52:52.720 --> 1:52:55.600 a NAS fan before I'm a j Man was like 1:52:56.040 --> 1:52:59.880 the tidal wave bro hit him up, my boy Deep. 1:53:00.200 --> 1:53:02.160 It was like, fuck jay Z. It was just like 1:53:02.280 --> 1:53:04.800 that ship was Jicks sucking lips. Yeah, you can't beat 1:53:04.920 --> 1:53:08.600 that type of energy. I was teasing my boy. My 1:53:08.680 --> 1:53:10.920 boy is a super duper NAS fan, and I'm a 1:53:11.080 --> 1:53:13.960 super at this time. Hole. I fuck with Hole. When 1:53:14.040 --> 1:53:16.000 Takeover came out on a blueprint and I was just 1:53:16.040 --> 1:53:17.880 playing it over, he was in the car like, yeah, yo, 1:53:17.920 --> 1:53:20.519 wait on none of this smoke and Ether drop, I 1:53:20.680 --> 1:53:26.439 was like, fucking christ ship Man, ether Man. That ship 1:53:26.520 --> 1:53:28.720 is a part of the culture, That record is a 1:53:28.840 --> 1:53:32.479 part of the culture. That title that that music is 1:53:32.560 --> 1:53:35.400 part of me. Now you get it. It's a verb. 1:53:35.560 --> 1:53:37.960 You got ether? People said, man, man, you got ether, 1:53:38.200 --> 1:53:41.960 Like stand yeah, lambs exactly. Everyone says no, you're a 1:53:42.040 --> 1:53:46.919 stand for that stand off of some hip hop ship. Yeah, Nas, Nasah, 1:53:47.680 --> 1:53:49.320 you know what song I didn't think get enough love 1:53:49.439 --> 1:53:52.400 was the song the Blueprint two? On the Blueprint two 1:53:52.960 --> 1:53:55.280 or that just Blazebee where he's like when the when 1:53:55.360 --> 1:53:59.080 the when the the what did he say when the 1:53:59.120 --> 1:54:01.439 grass is cut? The Snow Show. Gotta thank the little 1:54:01.479 --> 1:54:04.599 homie NAS for that, though, just because he wears a coofie, 1:54:04.600 --> 1:54:06.759 it don't mean that he's right. Is it Uchie Wally Wally? 1:54:06.800 --> 1:54:09.200 There is? It wasn't Mike is it? Black Girl? Lost 1:54:09.200 --> 1:54:11.920 as it? Shorty owe you for ice? No one talked 1:54:11.920 --> 1:54:13.960 about that because the battle was already won by NAS. 1:54:14.280 --> 1:54:18.960 It was over funny is so like right my favorite 1:54:19.040 --> 1:54:22.200 NAS verse like all my homies obviously, if you like 1:54:22.320 --> 1:54:26.120 jays is my favorite rapper ever. M see ever, that's crazy, 1:54:26.160 --> 1:54:28.720 It's that's dope. So but if you're a jay Z fan, 1:54:28.840 --> 1:54:33.960 naturally NAS fans literally the clashed. I love. I love both, 1:54:34.080 --> 1:54:35.520 but I was I was on that side where I 1:54:35.600 --> 1:54:38.520 was like Manu rich So as a whole fan right 1:54:38.560 --> 1:54:41.920 as a deep way and NAS fans, I remember, right, 1:54:41.960 --> 1:54:44.640 I would you know we would be talking ship to 1:54:44.840 --> 1:54:47.520 this day as much as even I've grown to appreciate. 1:54:47.760 --> 1:54:49.840 I've always liked nas No as a rapper. I just 1:54:50.240 --> 1:54:53.720 I thought was overrated, I thought crazy. Listen not It's 1:54:53.760 --> 1:54:56.480 just it's just the shadiest one for New York. Just 1:54:56.560 --> 1:54:58.600 his greatest rap. I'm not even mad if that's what 1:54:58.720 --> 1:55:00.880 you feel, right, But I'm just saying it was. It 1:55:00.960 --> 1:55:04.600 was super you know, a regional idea that became bigger. 1:55:05.200 --> 1:55:08.160 But over the time, right, my favorite naship we made 1:55:08.200 --> 1:55:13.040 you the Verse on Kanye record right even now right 1:55:13.200 --> 1:55:15.080 listening to him now with hit like put on hit 1:55:15.160 --> 1:55:17.800 and do shit for hit, right, It's amazing. But I 1:55:17.960 --> 1:55:21.120 find myself still teasing my homies, like I'm like, yeah, 1:55:21.200 --> 1:55:24.840 little nas X got nas name. It's funny, right, how 1:55:24.920 --> 1:55:28.440 that shit never dies? You still be teasing your homies like, yeah, 1:55:28.520 --> 1:55:34.920 this is the new nas you know niggas high. Nas 1:55:35.040 --> 1:55:39.280 Empty is my favorite man now is my favorite MC, 1:55:39.480 --> 1:55:44.160 and Kanye is my favorite artist. Kanye is just unbelievable discography. 1:55:44.240 --> 1:55:48.000 I don't know how fuck the music everything he does animal, 1:55:48.080 --> 1:55:51.440 He's an animal man ship, He's an animal. I think 1:55:52.800 --> 1:55:54.480 I was just not a fan of the Jesus King 1:55:54.520 --> 1:55:57.560 album outside of that, but I'm also I mean, we 1:55:57.680 --> 1:55:59.760 discussing I'm an atheist. I'm not into the god ship 1:56:00.160 --> 1:56:02.360 anything they got spirit. I don't hate anything. I just 1:56:02.560 --> 1:56:04.560 I just was like, man, this is just forcing it 1:56:04.680 --> 1:56:07.160 down to I guess it's kind of like the you know, 1:56:07.240 --> 1:56:10.560 the Little For me, it was like like Jesus Walks. Yeah, 1:56:10.800 --> 1:56:13.200 but it was one song on an album. So you 1:56:13.280 --> 1:56:15.280 said an album, wasn't I wasn't. There were some beats 1:56:15.280 --> 1:56:17.200 on it that were crazy shout out to the Homie books, 1:56:17.520 --> 1:56:20.120 but the whole album, sure, it wasn't. It was Jesus Walk. 1:56:21.000 --> 1:56:22.560 It wasn't Jesus don't do that. No, no, no, no, no. 1:56:22.720 --> 1:56:25.560 Jesus walks and Jesus talking about subject matterwise, but Jesus 1:56:25.600 --> 1:56:27.360 Walks still as an agreement. I mean, it's one of 1:56:27.400 --> 1:56:30.000 the best. Kanye Satan is probably playing Jesus Walk, right. 1:56:31.360 --> 1:56:33.760 Jesus Walk was a fucking banger, right, And it was 1:56:33.920 --> 1:56:36.400 one song on a song of I mean, nineteen twenty 1:56:36.440 --> 1:56:38.360 one records whatever called drop it was. It was like 1:56:38.440 --> 1:56:41.440 one out of that much Jesus Walks was or Jesus 1:56:41.560 --> 1:56:46.160 King was like super unfocused. Now Kanye, he was not focused, 1:56:46.720 --> 1:56:49.760 and it was like I thought that all the fucking 1:56:50.200 --> 1:56:53.120 the shit he was doing with all the the choir 1:56:53.200 --> 1:56:58.200 and all that shit was corny. I like that. I 1:56:58.200 --> 1:57:01.040 don't think it was quanny corny. I thought that Kanye 1:57:01.120 --> 1:57:03.760 has always been a spiritual person. No, I don't disagree. 1:57:03.800 --> 1:57:06.040 I just thought that ship was very like purpose. It 1:57:06.320 --> 1:57:10.800 didn't feel genuine. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like 1:57:10.920 --> 1:57:12.520 it just got like I think I felt. I think 1:57:12.520 --> 1:57:14.240 he was. I think he was in a weird place 1:57:14.440 --> 1:57:16.960 and I think he was going through it for sure. Personally, 1:57:16.960 --> 1:57:18.400 he's been going through a lot. Mentally. I mean, I 1:57:18.640 --> 1:57:20.840 think I think he had to kind of get spiritually centered. 1:57:20.880 --> 1:57:23.440 And I think I forgive Kanye for all kinds of 1:57:23.480 --> 1:57:25.320 fuckery and I forgive him for the for the Jesus. 1:57:25.440 --> 1:57:28.200 I mean, Kanye is my favorite artist ever, Like I 1:57:28.360 --> 1:57:30.640 love Kanye. I can't wait for Donda to come out. 1:57:30.680 --> 1:57:33.920 I just hope it does not disappoint. I don't think 1:57:33.960 --> 1:57:36.520 it will, and how could it live up to these expectations. 1:57:36.520 --> 1:57:38.080 I think it's gonna. I mean, for me, I think 1:57:38.120 --> 1:57:41.080 it will. I just need to I just need to 1:57:41.120 --> 1:57:43.840 competence Kanye album and I'll be happy. I'll be honest 1:57:43.840 --> 1:57:46.600 with you, Kanye could do everything right now. And I 1:57:46.760 --> 1:57:49.600 really Kanye is probably the only rapper ever who just 1:57:49.640 --> 1:57:51.840 do what the fuck he wes. I just like, yay, bro, 1:57:51.960 --> 1:57:54.840 whatever ya gonna do because I'm fucking with it. And 1:57:54.960 --> 1:57:57.720 and I and I and I think it's always from 1:57:57.760 --> 1:58:02.400 a genuine place. Has Kanye been corney? I don't really 1:58:02.440 --> 1:58:04.720 think Kanye. I don't think he does things without soul. No, 1:58:04.800 --> 1:58:06.880 I don't think Kanye's corny. Yeah yeah, no, I I 1:58:06.960 --> 1:58:08.920 just said for me, I just thought that there. I 1:58:08.960 --> 1:58:12.240 remember the wire thing. Just to me, it's just one thing. 1:58:13.200 --> 1:58:14.920 I have to go to a Kanye concert. I've never 1:58:15.000 --> 1:58:18.200 been to a Kanye I've been to every tour except 1:58:18.320 --> 1:58:20.920 the Pablo tour. Because the date I was supposed to 1:58:20.960 --> 1:58:22.640 go to, I might get I might get him become 1:58:22.640 --> 1:58:24.600 performed at my birthday party. I've been to all the 1:58:24.680 --> 1:58:27.440 Kanye tours. The best show I ever been to was 1:58:27.760 --> 1:58:29.960 was the Yeezest tour. He had a mountain on stage. 1:58:30.480 --> 1:58:33.200 I heard about that. Have Kanye perform at my birthday party. 1:58:33.200 --> 1:58:34.600 That's what I might do. I'm like, where is this 1:58:34.680 --> 1:58:36.080 going to be at? I don't know, to be at 1:58:36.120 --> 1:58:38.200 like a house, a small house. He could rock like 1:58:38.280 --> 1:58:41.480 thirty people go old school for me, that would be 1:58:41.640 --> 1:58:43.800 like crazy, Let's get to it. Hey, I'll be there, 1:58:44.040 --> 1:58:46.200 Just give me my invite. Man. Hey, well look man, 1:58:46.400 --> 1:58:52.800 g Malone plug the podcast No Silings, Black Effect Network, 1:58:52.880 --> 1:58:56.760 see network. Why don't you do video because I wasn't. 1:58:56.800 --> 1:58:58.920 I wasn't comfortable with where I was at speaking. Now 1:58:58.960 --> 1:59:00.720 we're just finna get into it because I feel like 1:59:00.800 --> 1:59:03.040 it'd be much bigger, much video. I had to get 1:59:03.720 --> 1:59:05.840 good at it versus rushing like I think a lot 1:59:05.840 --> 1:59:08.080 of rappers rushing to it and then that's why they struggle. 1:59:08.280 --> 1:59:09.680 So I just wanted to get good at it first. 1:59:09.960 --> 1:59:12.680 So you feel comfortable now, I feel like the visual 1:59:12.800 --> 1:59:15.760 aspect of important. Yeah, and it's gonna take it to 1:59:15.840 --> 1:59:19.400 that level man, No ceilings. It's available everywhere you listen 1:59:19.480 --> 1:59:23.560 to podcasts. It's all about, you know, conversations with pariz 1:59:23.680 --> 1:59:27.600 in our community and polarizing topics and really running into 1:59:27.640 --> 1:59:29.720 the fire instead of leaving everybody in the house burning 1:59:30.160 --> 1:59:31.840 and just trying to run into the fire and rescue 1:59:31.880 --> 1:59:34.240 as many people as we can instead of just walking 1:59:34.280 --> 1:59:37.160 by taking a picture of a burning house. That's what 1:59:37.320 --> 1:59:39.760 No Selings is. So go get that, and then there's 1:59:40.560 --> 1:59:43.800 music every week. Every week, you're putting out a song 1:59:43.880 --> 1:59:47.280 every week. No, no, I'm saying I wish no I'm 1:59:47.360 --> 1:59:51.240 dropping music. I'm saying every week. I'm speeding up to 1:59:51.280 --> 1:59:53.400 every week. Right now, I've dropped three songs. I've dropped 1:59:53.560 --> 1:59:55.280 record with Snoop and Iced Tea, Snoop and Iced Tea 1:59:55.280 --> 1:59:57.240 and tie right, and then I dropped a song with 1:59:57.280 --> 1:59:59.640 Gaming Corrupt. And now the next song is with forty 1:59:59.680 --> 2:00:05.800 in Oh, So you're really just legendary features only here man. 2:00:05.880 --> 2:00:08.360 For years we wanted to be a part of the 2:00:08.440 --> 2:00:10.800 West Coast and we felt like they wasn't. So now 2:00:10.880 --> 2:00:14.600 that the opportunity is present, I'm finally getting what was 2:00:14.640 --> 2:00:18.040 the Ice Tea called like? That was in person? Oh? 2:00:18.400 --> 2:00:20.440 That was amazing because Ice T is on another He's 2:00:20.480 --> 2:00:24.120 in an Iced Snoop are as advertised Ice Tea is, 2:00:25.520 --> 2:00:28.240 I mean a legend on TV now, Ice Team Snoop 2:00:28.320 --> 2:00:32.000 was ours avatars. Those are not characters. There's no other 2:00:32.120 --> 2:00:35.720 body else. There some a lot of rappers, ninety percent 2:00:35.760 --> 2:00:38.640 of the rappers. Ice T has turned into a great 2:00:38.680 --> 2:00:41.280 Arizona citizen. Now it is out, and I think it 2:00:41.400 --> 2:00:45.040 was a Chandler. Ice Tea is proclaiming him now as 2:00:45.080 --> 2:00:48.840 you should. Ice Tea is as advertised, He's exactly what 2:00:49.160 --> 2:00:53.680 it is, correct, corrupt man, corrupt, corrupt up here snoop, 2:00:53.840 --> 2:00:56.680 like snoop that Iced Tea is that those two guys 2:00:56.760 --> 2:01:00.360 are as advertised. Besides, is the shadiest one because I 2:01:00.400 --> 2:01:02.360 think you would see my favorite album. Would you say 2:01:02.360 --> 2:01:04.280 it's the most slept on hip hop album on from 2:01:04.320 --> 2:01:07.120 the West Coast? Ever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, fair 2:01:07.600 --> 2:01:09.160 Oh no, I wouldn't say it's the most slept on. 2:01:09.320 --> 2:01:12.120 I would probably lead that for street gospel. I was 2:01:12.200 --> 2:01:16.640 gonna say Streets is a Mother and or forty days 2:01:16.680 --> 2:01:20.960 forty nights, four days forty nights is super nasty. But streets, 2:01:21.680 --> 2:01:26.680 I think how much the West revers street gospel. That's 2:01:26.800 --> 2:01:30.400 why like, Streets is a Mother is pretty remarkably close. 2:01:30.480 --> 2:01:33.760 But Corrupt was already a successful artist. Yeah so, but 2:01:34.280 --> 2:01:39.000 street gospel sugar Free, like I don't think the world knows, Yeah, 2:01:39.000 --> 2:01:41.240 I don't think. I also don't think like like people 2:01:41.320 --> 2:01:44.120 understand how much of fluid sugar Free had Yeah, just 2:01:44.200 --> 2:01:47.200 on everywhere, not just not just here. But I'm saying 2:01:47.240 --> 2:01:49.400 so I think that album would be the most underrated 2:01:49.440 --> 2:01:51.960 and he's he comes as advertising. Yeah, that's for sure 2:01:52.000 --> 2:01:53.360 that that was a real guy. I saw him on 2:01:53.640 --> 2:01:55.600 a bitch on Alicia in Vegas. Yes, the real deal. 2:01:56.840 --> 2:01:59.680 But the thing about the shadiest one is what ill 2:01:59.760 --> 2:02:02.680 matters kids to New York. It's very much She's my 2:02:04.040 --> 2:02:09.000 Probably when westat side connection was like like when bout 2:02:09.080 --> 2:02:12.600 Down came out was my favorite. I stopt dub. He 2:02:12.640 --> 2:02:14.320 could out wrap anybody from l A at the time, 2:02:14.600 --> 2:02:17.360 was nasty and just his little aneurysm, skip skip connect 2:02:18.120 --> 2:02:22.080 all that. When I hear illmatic, that's what I hear 2:02:22.160 --> 2:02:26.280 the shadiest, when I hear this super deep dive into 2:02:26.520 --> 2:02:30.880 true culture like Queensbridge culture and was doing ship with 2:02:31.000 --> 2:02:33.280 like Gangstar. He was on the but before that, I 2:02:33.320 --> 2:02:35.200 was on the shady No, that was way before that. 2:02:35.400 --> 2:02:37.480 But I'm talk about the shadiest one where he dives 2:02:37.520 --> 2:02:42.160 into LA culture probably greater than anybody ever had sonically 2:02:42.360 --> 2:02:46.040 and and also like lyrically, like the lingo he was 2:02:46.160 --> 2:02:49.000 using what he talked about. He talked about the part 2:02:49.040 --> 2:02:50.680 of the house, part, he talked about all of the 2:02:50.800 --> 2:02:55.320 lifestyles and situations. It was like that's are illmatic, you 2:02:55.360 --> 2:02:57.120 know what I mean? And I and I'm sad that 2:02:57.280 --> 2:03:01.000 other people you know, huh, I mean, I mean I've 2:03:01.040 --> 2:03:03.920 never heard that aside from you. Yeah, it's ario Madic, 2:03:04.520 --> 2:03:07.040 the way we just don't have as much sway over 2:03:07.200 --> 2:03:10.560 the media, you know, as obviously the creators of the 2:03:10.640 --> 2:03:14.760 actual fucking genre as they should. But that's ario Madic. Okay, 2:03:14.960 --> 2:03:17.520 the shadiest one is ario Matic, all right. Last question 2:03:18.160 --> 2:03:20.480 two thousand and one of the Chronic two thousand and one, 2:03:21.040 --> 2:03:25.080 me too. Yeah, I mean I was fucking I barely 2:03:25.160 --> 2:03:26.920 fucking knew with Dolli styles, but I have to go 2:03:27.040 --> 2:03:29.480 back and consume Doggie style and the Chronic. I heard 2:03:29.520 --> 2:03:33.440 them right, And I think two thousand and one butt 2:03:33.640 --> 2:03:37.240 revalue re replay value now, but personally for me it's 2:03:37.280 --> 2:03:38.760 two thousand and one. But when you just talk about 2:03:38.760 --> 2:03:41.320 share greatness, the Chronic is the father, No, for sure, 2:03:41.360 --> 2:03:43.800 the Chronic birth to everybody shit. But I just think, like, 2:03:43.880 --> 2:03:46.160 if I'm a listening, yeah, I'm play two thousand and one, 2:03:46.240 --> 2:03:48.800 two thousand, Yeah, all right, yo, gim malone. Go check 2:03:48.840 --> 2:03:52.880 out the no Ceilings podcast everywhere hopefully be on YouTube soon. Yeah, Google, 2:03:53.280 --> 2:03:56.800 Google New music is everywhere. Just go to my Spotify 2:03:56.880 --> 2:03:59.640 page and go support and you know, shout out to us. 2:03:59.640 --> 2:04:02.000 Seven love and this stuff. This. I haven't seen a 2:04:02.040 --> 2:04:04.640 big gold cup this big since I was about thousands 2:04:04.640 --> 2:04:06.440 of water cold. Oh Ship