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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I'm just looking at all

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Speaker 1: that's like, I feel like the record he put out

422
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 1: with the what's it called Monetaro? Yeah, I heard that

423
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: record and I was like, oh, this is a hit. Now.

424
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: That record did go number one at radio, right, it

425
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: went number one, but it probably was more rooted in

426
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: ads than just it worked its way up. It was

427
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: probably number one within the first week or two. I

428
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: wasn't It was a slow build. I promise you I

429
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: could show you the media based charts. It barely hit Also,

430
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: it came out before the video. No no, no no.

431
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: The video came out and it barely hit number one

432
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: on Rhythm like maybe like three or four weeks ago.

433
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: But was that a month ago? The song came out

434
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: in April. It actually came out in March, third week

435
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: of March, because that's when the video came out. Yeah,

436
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: because because I went through some legal shit this you remember, yes, okay,

437
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,239
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. So I heard that record and

438
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is a this is a

439
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: good record for radio, Like it's a pop It's gonna

440
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: kill it on Kiss FM. It's gonna you know. But

441
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: is it for me? Nah? But you know the ship

442
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm listening to. But I could subjectively look in Little

443
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: nas X's music and be like, in my opinion, now

444
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: you got your opinion. I'm not saying it ain't corny,

445
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: but I think he's making good records. I'm not saying

446
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: he's making good rap records or good soul records. I

447
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 1: just think he's making good record. But you know my limitation,

448
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: it'll be disrespected. It saw me and think that I'm

449
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: just some kind of I like records, right, I don't

450
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: know you're right, and you're someone who's always been that way.

451
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: So Montero as a record is even as a pop

452
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: record is. It's written decent, it's executed. I just think

453
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: it's very like it lacks something original, right, And it

454
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong because a lot of times, right

455
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: we're in spaces where you know people are doing the

456
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: next thing or the thing that everybody's doing. But pop

457
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: is definitely a higher standard where you're supposed to dig deeper.

458
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: Bruno Mars makes pop records. That's fair, and that ship

459
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: is some ship fire of course. So when you say

460
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: a record, I'm thinking like Little X's Montero or Silk

461
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: Sonic leave the door open, so Soonic leave the door open.

462
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: That got so I would rather listen to n Sync,

463
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: And that's fair because the record is better. I'm not

464
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: saying that the records aren't better. I'm just saying he's

465
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: got good records. It ain't like he's putting out done. No,

466
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: they're not horrible. They're not horrible. And so my thing

467
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: is is I think little nos X is somebody who,

468
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: like you said, when you first got in here, we

469
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: had an off camera conversation about a conversation you have

470
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: with t Pain and how you were like, yo, whatever

471
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: you are, lean into it one thousand percent. So you

472
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: started wearing your glasses because your name's glasses on but

473
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: you never used to wear glasses, so now you wear glasses,

474
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: but they're big. Little X is a gay dude, right,

475
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: and he's leaning into that. But again, right, so I agree, right,

476
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: it's a way to do everything. But then so like,

477
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: let's say, if my name is Glasses, right, and I'm

478
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: a crip rapper, those are my two brands, and I

479
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: walk in this motherfucker where Bandana's tied around my wrists,

480
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: Bandanna's tied around all my joints, my neck, my heads.

481
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: It's corny. It's extra. So not in this way past.

482
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: This is extra. That shit is stupid and ridiculous. But

483
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: that don't mean everybody can't tell, right, So let me

484
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: ask you this though, because if little nas X was

485
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: a dude who was straight and he was making out

486
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: with bitches on stage and there was a bunch of

487
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: half naked bitches dancing around him, Nobody would question it.

488
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: That's not true. It's it's a belief that this is

489
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: all because I really think a lot of it is

490
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: because he's a gay dude. But that's not true because

491
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: we've never seen that. We've never seen someone quote unquote,

492
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: and like I said, I do not idental Elton John

493
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: not gay. Yeah, but I don't identify Little nos X.

494
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: And now John is the same because Little in some conversations,

495
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: people consider him hip hop, even though I don't. I

496
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: consider him a pop artist, pop art, but that raps.

497
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: He's he's certainly the first quote unquote person that raps,

498
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: that's on a level that he's on that is openly gay.

499
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: But nobody, nobody listen. He's as much as people care.

500
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: If the reason you separate him and Elton John is

501
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: because Elton John shit is really good. I mean that

502
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: John makes way better music than Little naz X, but

503
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: on thousand percent. But that's my point. So again, it's

504
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: easy and that's what everybody's doing. Like it's always the

505
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: if you if you critical of his brand, if you're

506
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: critical of his art, the immediate turn is, oh you're

507
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: just homophobic. You don't like because he gay. Let's actually

508
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: unpack the fucking records. Let's unpack the visuals. They're not

509
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: they're executed well, but but they're executed well. But he's

510
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: not making ground. That's not even making ground. We've seen

511
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: that before, right, But what it is is he's just

512
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: wrapping it up in gay face, like how Burt william

513
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: Is wrapping up like burg Williams wrapping up in black

514
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: and so he's wrapping it up and he's doing Britney

515
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 1: Spears in gay face. I liked it. Patnett gay face,

516
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: he's just gay like black face. He's gay face. So

517
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: he's just over dragging some shit, right, he over dragging

518
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: and just like that's shower scene is Christina Aguilera. That's

519
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: they shot that before that, that's been done. But you

520
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: just used a bunch of gay black men. You just

521
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: did it in gay face because he's a guy. But no,

522
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: but it's not because he's a gay guy. He knew

523
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: everybody would care about that. See, gay people ain't just

524
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: running around just being extra, just like black people ain't.

525
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: It's black people that's dark as black face, right, it's

526
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: just dark ass people with red lips, right, But people

527
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: ain't just running around just being a nigga, you know.

528
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: We Actually it's not as simple, right, So when you

529
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: see a black man, right, that's what makes his think

530
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: he's a gay man. But because he's unbelievably at a

531
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: thousand with trying to tell you I'm gay, bro, we

532
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: know you are. I'm not saying nothing wrong. Nobody give

533
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: a fuck. Elton John's gay. Right, All kind of people

534
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: we end up loving is gay. Nobody fucking cares, like, right,

535
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: you court, sure you care a little bit. Prince was

536
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: probably bisexual, I think everybody. But on the same token,

537
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: is it not like it's his art, right, So if

538
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: he wants to be a trailblazer for his his community,

539
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: that you really true? That's not true, I think. I

540
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: think if you think about it's like seeing Bert Williams's

541
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: trail based black face. But I don't know who Williams is.

542
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: He's the he's the big you told me so again.

543
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him a trailblazer because you're not gonna

544
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: have generations of no. No. I just mean in terms

545
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: of like, I can't think of a time in the

546
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: last twenty five to thirty years that I've been alive

547
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: and paying attention to music, that there's been an openly

548
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: gay superstar. Not talking about Adam Lambert or somebody who

549
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: don't really matter. I'm talking about a super little nosed

550
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: actually superstar. And and what I so, you and I

551
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: had a discussion about that video with the Devil, and

552
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: what I appreciated about the video was his explanation for

553
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: was essentially everyone, Yeah, my whole life was she said,

554
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to hell blah blah blah blah blah, all

555
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: this clown shit were Really it was just like, this

556
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: is a good idea to make people talk, and it worked.

557
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: But again, again, I can isn't that a lot of

558
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: this shit? Though? Yeah, but isn't that a lot of

559
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: this shit? Agree one hundred percent? But then it got

560
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: to be good at the It got to be great

561
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: at the route, the great at the root to you?

562
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: Isn't it great at the route to maybe seventeen year

563
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: old kid who loves literally all love great records? But

564
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I think Little X has some

565
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: records that are I'm out here live what you mean? Damn?

566
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: Old Town Road is best recording? You know it? Oh?

567
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: For sure? But that's the problem. Like, but Holiday is

568
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: a dope record, Panini is a banger, Panini's a banger.

569
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: Decent that shit is a banger. Bangs, but it's not really.

570
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: But like what I'm saying is like out here little

571
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: X like Panini. I hear little X Ponini. I'm like, Oh,

572
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: this shit is tell It's ten records in bro We're talking.

573
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: It's Old Town Road is better than every song. Of course,

574
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: it's the big It's probably the biggest song in the

575
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: last twenty years. But you're missing the point of what

576
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We've demanded greatness from everybody. We we we're

577
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: not allowed to say this about nobody else. And you're

578
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: saying greatness objective to what you think is great. Well,

579
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: that's the point, right, is my perspective, hundred percent right. So,

580
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: but what I don't want is my opinion to be

581
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: discounted about art or brand because you think I'm a

582
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: homophobe or you think I care that, which is not

583
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: the case. And that's what I'm dealing with, and that's

584
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: what I don't like. I don't care that the man

585
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: is gay. I don't give fuck how many if the

586
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: fucking shower scene where they was dancing naked was fire,

587
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: It'd be fucking fire. It just wasn't good, just fucking corny.

588
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Do you think was

589
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: it single ladies? No? Of course not again. So I'm

590
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: so now I'm looking at him like, Okay, you went

591
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: through all this to show this fucking subpar routine. So

592
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. I think that there is

593
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: a conversation to be had though. Don't you think a

594
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: lot of the hate that he gets is rooted in

595
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: some homophobia? Though sure I'm not talking about you, sure, sure, Sure,

596
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: some people are not. They cannot they cannot accept the

597
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: they don't understand the lifestyle enough, and it's confusing to

598
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: them because they have their own belief of how this

599
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: is happening. Right. I've had conversations with people that they

600
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: feel like, oh, you can't be boring. It's a thousand

601
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: things about people don't understand versus me, where I just

602
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: don't care. I just don't have a reason to get

603
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: You have an opinion on what he's doing and you

604
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: think is corny. Ain't got nothing to do with nothing else, bro,

605
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't man. People could speak up for me and

606
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: I stop them when they try. I don't need nobody

607
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: to speak for me. I don't. I don't want you to.

608
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: Oh you know, geez my boy, and I don't say

609
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: shit five me. Fuck these motherfull They could think what

610
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: they want to think. His shit is corny. I told him,

611
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: your shit's corny. You are black, You owe some more soul.

612
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't think so, but I am demanding it

613
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: as a fair. You went through all this to get

614
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: to my attention. You dancing on the devil's lap. Then

615
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: snap the man neck, you slide and look like a fairy.

616
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: You're doing all this shit you're doing for me to

617
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: see you because you want to show me all these

618
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: visions of masculinity that don't I'm not used to sing,

619
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: especially from black men. Right. You want to show me

620
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: this so you get my attention. You make the Satan shoes.

621
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: You already know black people are rooting in some level

622
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: of spirituality. We don't fuck with saying, but you do

623
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: it anyway, so you get my attention. Then you come back.

624
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: You got the shower sing, I've been to jail. Feel me.

625
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: You dancing with the dudes in the shower and the

626
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: subpart number that's just you should have actually had a

627
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: fire number at least so I could be pumped up

628
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: about it. Right, So you go through this to get

629
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: my attention, You get it, and then I give you

630
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: my opinion on your brand and your art, and you

631
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: try to wrap it up and say like, I'm a homophobe.

632
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: You asked me to look at it. I looked at it.

633
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm telling you. That's what I think about it.

634
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: Now you could take it and say, oh, gee, you're

635
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: being a homophobe. You put whatever clown shit nigga El

636
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: John mops the floor, Sam Smith mobs the floor with

637
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: your slow ass. I don't disagree. So if you're not

638
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: trying to be that good, don't come fucking with my attention.

639
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. When you tweeted that

640
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: he's more a tool for white supremacy or a puppet

641
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: rather because it matters than LGBTQ, what do you mean

642
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: by that. He's a fucking entertainment piece for mainstream America

643
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: like puppets, He's the show. And when you say white supremacy, yeah,

644
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: because at the highest level of people looking right at

645
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: the white supremacy, this is the top level of this country, right,

646
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: who knows if people are embarrassed. Who knows of everything?

647
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: He's their entertainment piece. Feel me, like you said, he's

648
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: a one of one, right, and he know everybody that

649
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: look like me is shrinking down in their seats like

650
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: ah man, And it's not. Everybody is not just because

651
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: you gay. It's just your shit's corny sometimes again, man,

652
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: when you're black, it's not fair, right, it's not fair.

653
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: But there's things expected of you. And I'm not demanding

654
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: more than you than I wouldn't demand from Prince or

655
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: any other great artists. You feel me, You don't get

656
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: off because you gay, You don't get off because you

657
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: still expected. Well, guess what, nigga, you gotta carry two torches.

658
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: Don't make us look stupid, like you don't make them

659
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: people look stupid, feel me, So, I think he's doing

660
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: a bad job of making people look you know what

661
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean, He's just doing it goofy like. You're not

662
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: really adding to the culture. You're not creating a trend

663
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: of things that's gonna happen. You gotta dig deep, bro,

664
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: you went through some real struggles. If you're a young

665
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: black gay man, you went through some real struggle for sure.

666
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: Can I get that? Of course? Can I stop getting

667
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: these generic records that are not like you're making bad versions.

668
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: He's making pop records. He's not making anything with substance

669
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: or depth to them. As far as like him talking

670
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: about like really tapping into the struggle. God, at least

671
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: be backstreets back is good. I mean that. I mean, look,

672
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: he got one, he got the Little The Hotown Road

673
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: is a fire. I mean, you know, but now, but

674
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: like damn, we like eight or nine and we'd had

675
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: about four that come on when I said I never

676
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: heard a whack Little Noza song, I never heard none

677
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: of I'm whack no no. He's too good to make

678
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: a wax song at this point. Now he's a good artist,

679
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: like he makes records. I'm not saying he's made anything

680
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: better than the Oldtown Road, but I'm like, yo, I'm

681
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: not I'm not riding around bumping Little Nozax at all.

682
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: But if I'm like, I'll check his video and I'll

683
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, I get it. You know, it's

684
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: a pop record, great writers, you know, whatever it is

685
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: it's but I don't think it's I think it could

686
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: be better, And you're right, it could be so everything

687
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: could be better, but so then we all should demand it.

688
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: He's not talented like Bruno Mars though, but I'm saying

689
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Brun Mars an alien. Yeah have you seen that man live?

690
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: But again it's it's still like it's still pop like

691
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: it's now, I know it is. But Bruno Mars is

692
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: like one of the most talented artists that we've seen

693
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: in the last like fifty years. Like like like he's

694
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: I was I Love Lives Morris Day. His life shows

695
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: insane no more I'm talking about I'm talking about that level.

696
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: But I'm saying what makes his ship dope is he's

697
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: just not He don't look like me and he's doing that.

698
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: I think Bruno he's ill. Now, Bruno is an alien.

699
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: But but again put him in front of that now,

700
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: see that's what I'm talking about now, no disrespect, because

701
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Bruno was fucking fired, and he got fired, he got

702
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: some of the best. See, I wouldn't say he's one

703
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: of the best fifty like artists of the fifty years.

704
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: I say some of the I wouldn't even say that.

705
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: I'd say he has some of the best records I've

706
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: heard in fifty years. He's one of the best performers

707
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: in the last fifty years. I haven't seen that, but

708
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: Tech nine is number one on that list for me.

709
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: I agree, but but I think he was nine peak

710
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: techno saw so right, Elton John Right, that's fire, that's fire,

711
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: that's uncharted, uncharted territory fire. I don't disagree fee me

712
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: Sam Smith, uncharted territory fight. I think Sam Smith is fire. Now,

713
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: with that being said, I probably would rather listen to

714
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: a Little X song than the Sam Smith songs. I

715
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to slice my wrists.

716
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: The only person, the only I listened to ever stay

717
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: with me more than everyone, stay with incredible record with me,

718
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: an incredible record. I give you that. Little is never

719
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna make a record's gonna stay with me? Why not?

720
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: Because he's not that talented. That hints my point. Little

721
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: Sam Smith has a voice of an angel, a SoundCloud

722
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: rapper turned pop star. But then you gotta just with

723
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: great writers. But you gotta define it. You gotta define

724
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: it because we can't hold Little X, who literally is

725
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: a SoundCloud rapper, he's a pop star. Hold him started

726
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: as a SoundCloud rapper and he's evolved into a pop star.

727
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: But he was first record. His first record was a

728
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: pop He's not a great No, Little that shit was

729
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: a joke, but it's still a pop record. Okay, fair enough,

730
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: but it was a joke. So now you got to

731
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: compete with Bruno Mars. That's sold. Everyone gotta be town.

732
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Hey how about this. Let me give you an example. Now,

733
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Eminem is culturally prevalent in the

734
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: last fifteen years, right, but can we agree that technically

735
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Eminem is a top ten and ten would be short

736
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: sighting him. But if I were to say Eminem lyrically

737
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: skills as a rapper's top ten all time, you would

738
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, of course, I meant of course, right,

739
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: top five five for sure? Yeah, use to one per

740
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not over here barking down on I

741
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: don't even want to say little Baby, because he's improved

742
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: so much as a rapper. I'm not barking down on Gunner.

743
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: If Gunner got a hot record in the club or

744
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: got a number one record at Urban, because he's not

745
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: as talented as someone like Eminem, not at the time.

746
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: They're not the same, But that's what I'm saying. They're not,

747
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: But they're not the same. But again, right, what makes

748
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: us all, even all of us right in hip hop,

749
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: or all of us in pop music, or all of

750
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: us in any of these genres the records. So again,

751
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: so you're saying record for record, that's all you have

752
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: to be. That's fair. You don't gotta be as talented.

753
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: But song like Hot by Young Thug and Gunner, Right,

754
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: he's like a record that makes sense in the club.

755
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: It's a cool record. It was number one at urban radio.

756
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: It's a cool record. But it's not fucking But I'm

757
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: only asking it's not the box, But I'm not asking

758
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: it to be the box, right, I'm asking it to

759
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: be ha it's not. It's not Ha'm I'm asked, but

760
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: it's not. But again, right, So that don't mean that

761
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: it ain't dope, But that don't mean that it ain't good.

762
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: That don't mean that it can't be in the same world.

763
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: Like I'm not getting Little Knazacs ain't gonna he can't

764
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: do what Sam Smith does. No, but he can make

765
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: records as great as Sam Smith. I mean maybe, yes,

766
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean he has. I mean, look, I'm not as dope,

767
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: but I'm not as great as eminem right as technically

768
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: sound as Eminem, But that don't mean I can't make

769
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: a record as that ring with one of his records

770
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: as No, I don't disagree with you. It's about doing

771
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: the work. So at the end of the day, your

772
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: thoughts on Little knaz X are strictly rooted, and you're

773
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: not crazy about the records he's putting out, and you

774
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: think the execution is corny. Well, I think, yeah, I

775
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: think the records are decent. They're they're above average. They're

776
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: not you know what, They're above average. That's fair to

777
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: say compared to all the records today. But then again,

778
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm also on a core competing against Magic Johnson, Like

779
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all of our opportunities as modern day

780
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: artists to compete with the greatest records to ever come out.

781
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: So I look at it differently. You know, corny, he

782
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: knows it's corny, whether you admit it or not. As cool,

783
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: you don't got to see why you think it's corny.

784
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: I look at it as you know, when were like like,

785
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's corny. No, I mean, but I also

786
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: you see sometimes you know, but I'll come from the

787
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: era of watching Eminem videos that were me too and

788
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: I say they was corny. Sometimes they were fucking corny.

789
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, so when I look at that, it

790
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: kind of when I see Little nas X putting his

791
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 1: videos out, so some of corny, of course, oh my god,

792
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, you stru Shay was corny as far.

793
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: So then why are you struggling and say Little nas

794
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: x content is corny. I'm not saying it's not. But

795
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, say it if anything to say it,

796
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: I don't. To me, it's not so none of the

797
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: content is corny. But just when I see you know,

798
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: because when I watched the Devil video, I actually thought

799
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: that was fire. I'm saying, maybe prison Ship is it

800
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: corny or not? To me? For me, prison is not corny.

801
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I didn't the corny as shit. I thought it was

802
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: refining and refreshed. No, I just thought it was this

803
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: is cool. This reminds me some t r L. It

804
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: was cool. I wasn't mad at it. To be honest,

805
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's cornyn. I'm just being honest with you.

806
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: I think probably what's corny. It don't mean you're a

807
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: homophault because you think it's corny. I don't mean I'm

808
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: a racist. I'm not, and it don't mean I'm a

809
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: racist because I think some of Eminem is corny and

810
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a sellout if I think early days you

811
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: peel sometimes corny. You want to know what the difference is? Sure?

812
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: And why I can't say it's corny because I expect

813
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: corny ship from Little noz X because he's a pop star.

814
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: Eminem was a pop star and the time he got

815
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: to the real pop. Yeah, but I was listening to

816
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: Eminem on soundbombing two Rockets record. You just said the

817
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: same thing. Little Naz started as a SoundCloud rapper. You

818
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Corny is Little's first record? Don't

819
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: you see something that she'd be like? But literally his

820
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: first record ever was corny as fuck. So this is

821
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: his bar. He's a corny guy. I'm like, I won't

822
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: say the record it is corny. The video could have

823
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: been corny, but not the record. The record was. I

824
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: mean it was horror in the it's corny, but but

825
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: but but it works because it was great. But he

826
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: set a corny bar from the rip and it's just

827
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: been consistent. No, that's who he is. That record is

828
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: not cool. I got the horses in the back. He

829
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: literally faked a great record. But no, but if you

830
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: executed correctly he did, then it's not corny. That's the thing.

831
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: Like right, Like Adam Sandler. Right is one of my

832
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: favorite you know what I mean? In Hollywood? Right, the

833
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: water boy treads the line, so you could tread the

834
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: line and sometime being you gotta hit it. But if

835
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: you go too far, it'll get caught. You know what

836
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: about Adam Sandler is the same way. But but listen,

837
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: but listen, I think Adam Sandler, I expect corny shit.

838
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: So when he does like the Zohan movie, which is

839
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: super corny, then you say it's corner. Appreciate So why

840
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: did you say? But again, me too? But I appreciate

841
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: little nosed Extra Ship because I expected to be corny.

842
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: You won't say it's corny. No, I just said I

843
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: expected to be corny. I literally corny? Is his whole

844
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: career is corny? Say? His whole career is corny? Getting

845
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: past everything? But the corny? Say that shower scene in

846
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: that video shower scene was corny? Do I think that

847
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm being honest? Do I think the song was corny? Maybe? Yeah,

848
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: little corny liking, So what's corny besides his complete idea?

849
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: Just the songs called industry Baby, and like it's like, yeah, okay,

850
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: it's a low hanging fruit for Little noz X to

851
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: make a song about being the industry planned Okay, I

852
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: get it. And then the video is what I expect,

853
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: which is why it's not corny. Still corny, you gotta

854
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: be good? Did it listen as much as Adam Sandler

855
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: right can be corny? The water Boy is amazing and

856
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: it's not corny. I love The water Boy. Zoehn is

857
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: amazing because but no, sometimes you can go but sometimes

858
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 1: you can go to far. Corny don't necessarily mean it's

859
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: not good. I am not listening to Little noz X's music.

860
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: Obviously subject to listen to pop music me like brun

861
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: the gotta be elite level. I am not listening to

862
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: Little X in my car. Ever. I threw on his

863
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 1: EP when it dropped what was it called the Rodeo

864
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: EP right, just to just to listen to it. I

865
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: threw it was like five songs, all right, cool, you

866
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: have the record with Cardi B. That was cool, But

867
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: I am not riding around in my car pressing play

868
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: on middle X. Ever, what I can do as someone

869
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: who's appreciates entertainment, I could look and see what he's

870
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: doing and be like, oh, I get it now, it's

871
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: not for me. Why not, because it's just not I'm

872
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: also do you're not enjoy some pop music? Not most

873
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: of it? To be fair? Do you enjoy some? Do

874
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: you like Bruno Marris? I love Bruto Morris. That's pop, okay,

875
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: so some if that's some? Sure? Do you enjoy Sam Smith? No,

876
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to it. I mean yeah, Elton John, Yeah,

877
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: of course I love so the best of the best

878
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: pop music. I love it John. Yeah. I mean I

879
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: mean yeah. I mean I liked like seventy shit, eighty shit,

880
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean not even I'm not saying eighties pop music.

881
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: It's a lot of pop, but I'm not a big

882
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: eighties pop guy. I actually think eighties pop is corny

883
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: as fuck. But but that means you don't like I

884
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: don't like in scene. I never like Backstreet Boys, I

885
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: never like none of that. That's nineties. I know what

886
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I never like any of that. Ships. So

887
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: people are like like Justin Bieber peaches right, good record,

888
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: That's that's an R and B record, right, Fire, great record? Now,

889
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: it's not corny though, No, no no, no, you're right, it's fire.

890
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: That's a beautifully written song. It's probably executed executed perfect. Again,

891
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not driving around in my car bumping Peaches. I

892
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: play pieces. Now, if Peaches comes on, you're not gonna

893
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: change it. I'm not gonna change it. But if that

894
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: industry baby song, which might change that, I might change it.

895
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: So I'm not so getting we're that's we're talking grand

896
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: a point, but we're green on the same thing. For

897
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: me to say it was bad, it's just not good.

898
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: Neither's Peaches. But you would not change because is a

899
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: better songs. That's what I'm saying. Peaches is a way better.

900
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: Peaches is better than what I'm saying a lot of songs.

901
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: I'll take Peaches more than I mean. That's a fucking

902
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: perfect song. Sure, I know you don't complain to me.

903
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: I love you know, like there's like records like that

904
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: I love to play, like in the club, like Essence

905
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: by whiz Kid. Fucking love it. Right, it's a great

906
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: fucking Justin Bieber. Just jump out the remix. Now, I'm

907
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: probably not driving around in my car listening to wiz

908
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: you'n I he came, of course, not so. All I'm

909
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: demanding is better record and better representation from Little Nax.

910
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm not asking for much. I'm not saying, hey, don't

911
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: be gay. You're gay, bro. That's how it is. I

912
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. It's not my fucking business. But

913
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: when you when you get my mother fucking attention, you

914
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: go through all this shit for me to find out,

915
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: and I give you my opinion, deliver nigga, deliver my nigga.

916
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: Don't all I'm I'm not even talking about the song.

917
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this bro. Go to the next level.

918
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. That's what's suspected you you you

919
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: nine ten records deep at this point. Let's get to

920
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: it now. What do you think? Do you think the

921
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: baby can do anything to patch up his current optics

922
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: with they'll be booking him at the festivals in the year.

923
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: In the year you think I'll be fine? Man? I

924
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: think he just jumps on a little Knazac song and

925
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: it's all good. He definitely shouldn't do that. You don't

926
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: think you should do that? No, Little Nazak's the baby

927
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: on the remix, Bro that the baby actually has this

928
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: authentic feel. Little naz X lacks authenticity. They can help

929
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: each other, Bro, Go to Elton John, get Elton John,

930
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: and go get Sam Smith to sing your hook. Don't

931
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: fuck with him. He's a fucking cornball. Make him dig

932
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: hisself out of corny. First, come back to the rest

933
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: of the You know the depth, nigga, your brother, come

934
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: back to the depth of it, fimy. Then we fucking

935
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: with it. But then, if you're going to do something

936
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: you worried about how the LGBTQ community sees you, go

937
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: get a big dog. Go Elton John, get Sam Smith,

938
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: Go sit down with Sam. Let him sing a beautiful

939
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: hook to the ladies or sing a beautiful hook to me.

940
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: Whoever is the fuck? Just sing a love hook and

941
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: you rap with Go to the best. Don't fuck with him.

942
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: He's a fucking cornball. You gotta get his ship together.

943
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: I man better. He can do it too. I heard

944
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: Old Town Road. There's something in there. He just gotta

945
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: let me ask you this too. So like on the

946
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: other side of the coin, there's guys like Boosy right,

947
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: who's one of my favorite dudes in the game. Every

948
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: time I talk to him, he's I know what I'm getting.

949
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: He's hilarious, but at the same time, he also comes

950
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: across the little homophobic. He has a genuine fear and

951
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: and and and obviously I don't think it's for him

952
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: at least because I'd like to think I've been around

953
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: him enough to know that he's not a hateful guy. Sure,

954
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: but I do think that there's like a big part

955
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: of hip hop in the industry where there's people behind

956
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: the scenes whatever that that that kind of share his

957
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: opinions about just the homosexuals in general. And I'm I'm

958
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: a believer that if you're gay, you're gonna be gay anyway,

959
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, but I think there are some

960
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: people that are born gay. And I also think think

961
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: like if somebody like Little nos X being openly gay

962
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: as an African American man in this country, which, as

963
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: you said acknowledged earlier, probably one of the hardest things

964
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: to be in this world as a black man, let alone,

965
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: because then you're fucked in your own community on top

966
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: of being fucked in America. Right, So if Little nas

967
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: X standing on that openly and proudly helps inspire people

968
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: to be themselves more right to be more proud of

969
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: who they are, or to live their truths louder or

970
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: more proudly. Isn't that a good thing? I mean? But again, yes, right,

971
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: unless you believe that he's actually infiltrating people's minds to

972
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: turning them gay, which I don't think is in this case.

973
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: I had this, I've been having this dilemma in this conversation,

974
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: right because I used to feel the same way. I

975
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: do not think you could just play gay like it

976
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: is for some man to take penis. Bro is a

977
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: different kind of devotion. You have to be committed. It's

978
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: gonna be tough, even like Bruce Jenner I mean, or

979
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: Kaitlin whatever. Right, even then he's still not gay, no, right, right,

980
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: he's a lesbian. He became a lesbian, right right, So

981
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a different commitment. So I felt the

982
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 1: same way you did. I felt like, you can't get

983
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: people to be gay. But that might not be true.

984
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: That could be wrong. It can be a lot more

985
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: influential than were We want to admit, we're in a

986
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: really weird place in society where social media is controlling

987
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: a lot of things and attention, but in general, all

988
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: of it is controlling. A lot. People are dying for attention,

989
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: like they're in a really weird space, So the things

990
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: people will do to get attention that could be a problem.

991
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: So that's why that I agree with you on that.

992
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: So again, like as much as I wanted to kind

993
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: of look at him like, bro, it is something to

994
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: be scared of. I think this right. I think people

995
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: will do things for attention more than ever. But at

996
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: the same time, like you said, to be a gay

997
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: person as a big commitment, right, So I think if

998
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: you were going to you know, be attracted to men

999
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: and being romantic relationships for men, mom, man. But what

1000
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying is now personally, I think you just really

1001
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: have to be committed. That's a lot, you know. So

1002
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is is like those people were gonna

1003
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: probably feel that way inside anyway. Maybe they were gonna

1004
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: get married to a woman that they hated or that

1005
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: they secretly you know what I'm saying, Like, I think

1006
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: they don't know if that's necessarily true. I think we

1007
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: all I think both sides at that point, we would

1008
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: all be speaking from ignorant places. But we also can't

1009
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: deny the control and influence I think there's a there's

1010
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: a there's definitely a such thing as saying that there's

1011
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: an attention thing going on, which is where I like,

1012
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: I think like you and I'm not. And again I'm

1013
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: not accusing any you know, homosexual part. I genuinely think

1014
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: this is what's going on, but I can't ignore right now.

1015
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: We're in one of the most scariest times of society

1016
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: where everybody is following you know what I mean for intention,

1017
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: because everything about our life is built on what is

1018
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: it called, uh, societal acceptance or societal uh, you know whatever,

1019
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: that is the wealth of it. I think the way

1020
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: I look at it right when like Boozie says some

1021
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: shit to me, it kind of makes me cringe because

1022
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, like, the only way you're really scared

1023
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: of this is if you truly believe little Isaac can

1024
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: turn a child gay. He and I think genuinely they

1025
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: believe that, and I think genuinely Boozy thinks that that's

1026
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: the genuinely want for sure because he definitely believe thats

1027
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: and I didn't. But now I'm stind of like, Okay,

1028
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, because you could turn the

1029
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: child into a gangster. You could turn the child into

1030
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: turn the child. You can turn a child into a racist.

1031
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: That's true. So again, it's all a lifestyle change. It's

1032
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: all a lifestyle thing. I don't know. I think it's

1033
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: about like what you're attracted to. I think it's kind

1034
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: of built into you. I guess I would like to

1035
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: believe that, but man, that might not be true. I

1036
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: would like to believe that's true. But again, this is

1037
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: one of them conversation. Society wanted me to be attracted

1038
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: to white women. In my entire life, I've not fucked

1039
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: with any white women because they just don't do it

1040
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: for me. That's racist, though, No it's not. I'm I'm

1041
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: just being honest with you. As a childhood, I grew

1042
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: up watching what was on TV Baywatch? Well, who was

1043
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: on Sports Illustrated covers? Fucking uh? What was it? Bit

1044
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: his name? So you've never seen a white lady you

1045
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: want the mail? I mean, I can like see a

1046
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: white chicken, be like, yeah, she's cute, you know, but like,

1047
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: are you not for me a white lady you thought

1048
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: was absolutely gorgeous? Of course, so then what are we

1049
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: talking about? Is there not men in this world that

1050
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: you can be like, that's a good looking dude. Never

1051
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: you've never seen a guy and been like, yo, he's

1052
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: a good looking guy. Never never, never been attracted to

1053
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: a guy. I didn't say attracted to, I said can

1054
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: you have not ever been attracted to a white woman.

1055
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: You've never been attract to a white woman. When I

1056
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: was a little kid, I think Pamela Anderson was hot.

1057
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: But then I Megan Good is not hot. It's not

1058
00:53:54,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: for me. That is crazy, Megan Good, Megan making Fox,

1059
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, making Fox. No, her thumbs kill me. She's

1060
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: got short thumbs. Plus, that's that's Mgk's that's mgk's girl.

1061
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: That's my dog. So but no, nothing shit, he know

1062
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: he little Fox. I can acknowledge she's a beautiful woman,

1063
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: but it's not for me. Yeah. See that's the point, right,

1064
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: somebody probably wouldn't believe you. Somebody. Once I discovered j

1065
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: Lo as a child, it was over. It was just

1066
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: like Latina's and then and then Tyra Banks, and I

1067
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: was like, oh this is different. I don't want to

1068
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: fuck nobody who looks like they could be related to me,

1069
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, like you know you, I mean, I've never

1070
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: heard that, but this is definitely special. But again, right,

1071
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: so I can acknowledge a white chick looks like, yeah, yeah,

1072
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: she's beautiful, but if you don't want to nail her,

1073
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: if you're not attracted to it, I mean, listen, what

1074
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I should be in the white girls.

1075
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: Not really, you don't have to be. All I'm saying

1076
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 1: is right maybe Okay, so I can see the comp

1077
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: but again, I don't know if I can just one

1078
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: time I was certain of it, but kind of thinking,

1079
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. It could be a little bit more influential.

1080
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: So I say, all the gay people I know with

1081
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: and this is people who are actually gay actually suck

1082
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: dick and get their dick sucked by you know, God

1083
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: bless them. Friends of mine say that this is something

1084
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: that they knew as soon as they were conscious of attraction,

1085
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: and that this is like this. I know. The homies

1086
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: told me the same thing that I know. So so

1087
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: based on what gay people say, but I've heard other

1088
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: gay people say different. I've heard other gay people talk

1089
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: about things that have happened to them. You might get

1090
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: molested as children. I mean, I mean that the said

1091
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: fuck them up. Maybe and again, but I do know.

1092
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: But again, we are coming into uncharted territories in society.

1093
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: At this point. We're influenced and social wealth I mean

1094
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: social uh uh social this is a specific word. But

1095
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: now they're at all time high. I think there's the

1096
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: all times. How about right now it's rappers wearing dresses. Yeah,

1097
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: that was like ten years ago. Yeah, but uh, I

1098
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: mean Andre did that, That's what I'm saying. So so

1099
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: now we're he wore killed that's not fair. Yeah, but

1100
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: Andre also just fashionedly, was just super forward, but people

1101
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: clowned it back. But a kilt still is okay. Young

1102
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: thug woarre dress on the cover of an album and

1103
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: a guy wore a wedding dress in a video. Yep. Right,

1104
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: So again we're doing things for attention. How about this

1105
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman wore dress right married himself. Yes, we're doing

1106
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: so do we think that that made other people gay? Well,

1107
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that's the I don't

1108
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he inspired people to be

1109
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: to wear dresses. Yes, I mean maybe, yeah, I think

1110
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: people buried themselves us. How about this though, do you

1111
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: think that young thug wearing a dress? If anything? First

1112
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: of all, people refer to their homies as my love.

1113
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: Do people refer to themselves as having dicks out the gun? Yes,

1114
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: he's an influential figure. He's a very talented, gifted Yeah,

1115
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's influencing anyone to suck cock

1116
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: because he's not necessarily on records sucking cock. If he's sucking,

1117
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: do you think Little X is influencing people to suck dick?

1118
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. He never influenced me, That's what I

1119
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: can tell you. But again, you're asking me, right, I

1120
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: don't think that. I think if my kids saw me.

1121
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: But it's not crazy for Bootsy to think kids could

1122
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: want to follow success and wealth, and they may think

1123
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: success and wealth could come with sucking dick. If they're

1124
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,959
Speaker 1: looking at Little nas X. It might sound ask nine

1125
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: and thought of it. But we are in a difference.

1126
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: I watched somebody the other day kill somebody of a

1127
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: pair of shoes in a raffle, that insane sixteen year

1128
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: old kid. You're missing what the sixteen year old kid

1129
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: is who killed the guy, But you're missing the point

1130
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: of what where we at? So to keep ignoring we're

1131
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: in different spaces. Feel me and and and you gotta

1132
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: be careful. What you're saying is that we're in uncharted

1133
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: territory as far as social media being so privalent, and

1134
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,479
Speaker 1: I might be fair, I think too. Like now, it's

1135
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: also almost like you know where there's so much opinion

1136
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: and shit all around everybody. Right, you open your phone,

1137
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: you just scrolling on TikTok, whatever the algorithm feeds you,

1138
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna make you feel some type of way. You

1139
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, I got my niece

1140
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: is she just came out as non binary. She's fourteen

1141
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: years old. I don't even know what that is. I

1142
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: know what it is, but I was like, that, shit,

1143
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: it's crazy, right, I don't want you to identify me

1144
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: as easy anything. So do they them thing is another

1145
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: thing that's like, you know, I had a conversation with

1146
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: my boy rams about this recently and he was like,

1147
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: and I was to the point where I was like, look,

1148
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm so down if you're if you're born a male,

1149
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: and you're like I I decided I want to be

1150
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: a female, So call me she all right? Cool? That

1151
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: they them thing just breaks my brain a little because

1152
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: because it sounds like I'm talking to multiple people language

1153
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: the irony is right. I'm a transphot right and people

1154
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: get upset and I'm like, bro, I'm just telling you

1155
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: the truth. I have a genuine fear of trans people.

1156
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: It's confusing to me and it blows my mind. And

1157
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: they never go to the complete other side enough to

1158
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: where even the ones that go all the way over

1159
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: is just like, that's a lot for me. You mean

1160
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: for my brain something that doesn't it's just confusing. I'm confused.

1161
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: So you're you're openly saying you're transphobia. Yes, I've said

1162
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: this multiple times and people get mad at me. Don't

1163
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: get mad at me because I'm scared the fuck you

1164
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: want me to do? I see that shit. I don't

1165
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: had any conversations with any transfer No, And that's what

1166
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to set up on my podcast because I'm

1167
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: trying to have a better understanding. I don't think they're

1168
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna kill me. It's just a scary thought. The confusion worries.

1169
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: Do you think being confused and being scared of separate

1170
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: or the kind of the same, because scared is like

1171
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: or you know, when we hear the word transpher fear

1172
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: means danger, right, so that the danger would be right

1173
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: if if for most black men, you would be worried

1174
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: that you're gonna run into a woman that was a man,

1175
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: right that before previously right you could have had the

1176
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: Johnson sliced off, could have got the breast, all the

1177
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: female hormones. But you still don't want that to happen

1178
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: to you. That's a big thing. I wouldn't want that

1179
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: to happen to me. That would bother me. So you

1180
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: want to have an open conversation with someone who's from

1181
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: the trans community to understand, because I do think that

1182
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: there are people who genuinely decide, like I'm not this

1183
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: and in order for me to be happy and fulfilled,

1184
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: I have to live my life this way. And I

1185
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: respect that concept completely and all of those other concepts. Right.

1186
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: The problem is when you start trying to change what

1187
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: I see. That's my problem. So I think that that see,

1188
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: that's what I don't like, That's what I think. I

1189
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: think that, like, you're at least open enough to where

1190
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: you can say, I truly am confused about what this

1191
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: is and have a genuine fear, and I genuinely would

1192
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: like to sit down and have a dialogue with someone

1193
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: who is from that community, because I would like to

1194
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: understand it more. And I think that that is where

1195
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: what you're saying is different than probably a lot of

1196
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: the hate and bigotry and negativity that someone who is

1197
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: in the trans community, or someone who did grow up

1198
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: as like maybe a trans seventeen or eighteen year old,

1199
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: they experience that word transphobic in a different way. That

1200
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: probably means violent hatred, you know, their health being at risk,

1201
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: you know discrimination. You're saying it in terms of hey, look, really,

1202
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: this is a language thing. It means you know, like

1203
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: you said danger fear right, and I wouldn't say that

1204
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: you probably fear for your life, no, but you don't

1205
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: understand it. Sure, And so your I think with yours,

1206
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: because I don't want people to be like glasses WANs.

1207
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: They can say that I'm okay with being who I

1208
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: am and honest about who I am. But but but

1209
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: the difference is is like with that word comes and

1210
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: whether or not we like to say this is what

1211
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: it says in the dictionary, what that word comes, a

1212
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: lot of other stuff attached to it. I don't think.

1213
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't think you're a bigot, not that I would

1214
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: never hell no, And I don't think you're a hateful person.

1215
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: Of course, I hate some people, and I think you're

1216
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: a hateful person. Though I don't think you're I don't

1217
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: think you're in your your your first nature is not

1218
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: being a hateful guy. No, But but I don't think

1219
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that's even the worst racist concepts. I

1220
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: think it's all rooted in ignorance. Right, We're all ignorance,

1221
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If you're scared, if you if

1222
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: you're a ragnophobic, right, or you have a ragnophobia, right,

1223
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: you're scared of spiders, it's because you don't understand. You

1224
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: may think all spiders are venomous, you may think they

1225
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: could bite you, you may think all of that. But

1226
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: if you obviously right, if you informed yourself, or if

1227
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 1: you were educated, it would bring some level of I

1228
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: also don't want to compare spiders to trans people, because

1229
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: trans people aren't poisonous. They're just spiders. A lot of

1230
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: spiders are, not even a lot, and the majority aren't.

1231
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: But ceee, I you just did that. See how just

1232
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: see that's the thing with human but nobody trans is poisonous.

1233
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: But again, if let's say, if it's a man who

1234
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: was a woman, like a man right who became a

1235
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: woman that's going out of her way because there is

1236
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: some sleeping with guys who she doesn't disclose that she

1237
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: is and she know that could crush them. That is dangerous.

1238
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying it's dangerous, but I'm saying I

1239
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you. But I'm saying that's not all

1240
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: of their agenda. It's just like with spiders. Their agenda

1241
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: is not to poison everybody. So the point that you

1242
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: would like to try to understand and sitting down with

1243
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: someone would be some of the I guess the concept

1244
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: of like why why you're deciding to live your life

1245
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 1: this way? What is it? Well? I think I get

1246
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: it right. The idea of it makes sense to me. Right, Okay,

1247
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: if you really feel like even though I could never relate,

1248
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: I have no idea. But if you felt you are

1249
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: a woman your whole life and you were a man

1250
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: and you felt that way, I don't think I want

1251
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: to understand how did you feel that way? I don't

1252
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: think that's the point, which part of it is confusing

1253
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: to you. That baffles you no once it happens the

1254
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: fact that you want me to see you different that's

1255
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: the thing that fucks me up. So let me ask

1256
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: you this. Right, if someone says to you, and I'm

1257
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: not saying, cook on the couch over there, all of

1258
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: a sudden says hey, I'm a woman, call me she,

1259
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna cancele you. Right, But let's say you

1260
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: meet someone who's let's say you grew up around somebody,

1261
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: you ain't seen him in ten years, and you see

1262
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: them and they've transitioned to a woman. I'm not thinking

1263
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: that this has happened, so that obviously hasn't happened. Now

1264
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: you know that person as however, you know that person, right,

1265
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: But if they tell you, hey, look glasses, it will

1266
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: make me feel much better. It makes me if you

1267
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: if you refer to me as this, if you refer

1268
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: to me as he, or you refer to me as

1269
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: my old name, it hurts. It fucks me up. And

1270
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: obviously we can't tell anybody how to feel right, is

1271
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: paying Isn't that a minor inconvenience for you to make

1272
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: someone feel alright? And I'm not saying that your job

1273
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: to make anyone feel alright? Well, that's the thing, right,

1274
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: I would do whatsever convenient I wouldn't ever, just because

1275
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: as much as I'm a transfer right which I wouldn't go.

1276
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't walk up to Bruce to Kaitlin. Rather, I

1277
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't call that like I wouldn't. I'm not going out

1278
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: of my way back. Oh, your mom named you Bruce,

1279
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna name you just I'm not fear me. I

1280
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: just wouldn't even fuck with that person. Now, if it's

1281
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: one of my best friends, I'm ana call him whatever

1282
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: he asking me to call him at or she's ever

1283
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: asking me to call him at that point. But I

1284
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: would be uncomfortable. Why I'm uncomfortable is I don't quite know.

1285
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm being honest with you. I have

1286
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: no idea why. It's almost crazy because I'm my fears

1287
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: is usually I could you know see why, But you

1288
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: know this one is weird. I'm not a homophobe at all.

1289
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: So when people call I laugh, I think it's I

1290
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: think it's dope to just hear you say that like

1291
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: you're open to having Hey, look, this is how I feel.

1292
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: But I want to have a conversation with somebody in

1293
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: the community because but that's what my podcast is all

1294
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: about for me. I don't like to live in ignorance.

1295
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: It bothers me. I hate being afraid of that shit.

1296
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: I hate being afraid of anything. I love conquering my fears.

1297
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: I think what we also have to understand and what

1298
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: it's been harder for me to understand it recently, really

1299
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: till I had a conversation recently with one of my

1300
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: best friends. Is not everything it has to make sense

1301
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: that makes sense. No, that doesn't make sense because of

1302
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: when you start, when you start trying to make everything

1303
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: make sense, and it's not a plight or something that

1304
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,919
Speaker 1: you can identify with, and it just don't make sense

1305
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: to you. Some ship just don't gotta make sense. But

1306
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: I think, see, and that's where I think as a

1307
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: thinking man, right, That's why I'm used to the world

1308
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: making sense. So when sometimes things happen that don't make

1309
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: sense right or or out of my realm of understanding, right,

1310
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: I shy away. That makes sense. I mean that makes sense.

1311
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: And and but it also now I get some people

1312
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: get angry and get you know, big You're like, yo,

1313
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm just shy away. But I'm willing to have a

1314
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: conversation to help and and and pursuing the idea right

1315
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: and pursuing the idea. The character Uncle Clifford. I don't

1316
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: know if that would be you know, if Uncle Clifford's character,

1317
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: because I think the character is a man, but I

1318
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: don't know if that's referred to as a trance or

1319
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: a cross. So I don't know the property. I don't

1320
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: even know what that is. So Uncle Clifford is a

1321
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: character from p Valley. He owns a strip club, right, Oh,

1322
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,959
Speaker 1: I heard about it. It's it's it's it's Mississippi based.

1323
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: This is black strip club. I heard about it. Yeah,

1324
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: it's fire, it's fire. But this character is one of

1325
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: the best layered characters right for that community. See, that's

1326
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: a great character written for that community. That character is

1327
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: fucking excellently written. And that's what I'm asking, And that's

1328
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: what human beings need, you know. I mean, like, like, Okay,

1329
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: it's cool to have something that plany the stereotypes, but

1330
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: then give something that people can really understand what and

1331
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: be empathetic towards just because you exist. See, naturally, the

1332
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: act of being a human being, right is to be empathetic,

1333
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 1: being humane. But it don't come with every model that

1334
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: that's born on this earth. So you have to give

1335
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: them figures and characters. That's why I don't mind them

1336
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: implicating you know, things and and adult films about, you know,

1337
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: because it'll make you like, like I said, Uncle Clifford,

1338
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: like that shit helped me a lot. Like I'm like,

1339
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: damn that motherfucker cool. I fuck with that. I need

1340
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with that motherfucker. He might actually

1341
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: be this char What if you think, like I mean,

1342
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: even think about Omar Little in the Wire. I never

1343
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: watched The Wire. Oh that's another comment. I never watched it.

1344
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: But but but this character is written so well. Yeah,

1345
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: this character's written so well that you know what I mean.

1346
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: That's that's the point I'm saying. I think, I think

1347
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: we can use entertainment and a lot of things to

1348
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: our advantage, but we have to be careful with how

1349
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: we do it. You know, we just can't throw anything out,

1350
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's the problem. So I

1351
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 1: respect everybody being you know, mindful of what they're doing,

1352
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: especially in some of these places that make a lot

1353
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: of people uncomfortable. You know, just shows ship at people

1354
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: because you right to exist. It's like, you know what

1355
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's just tough. That's not the wisest

1356
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: way to do it. If I met a racist white family,

1357
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna just walk in the house and watermelon

1358
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: chicken to be the nigga they want me to be.

1359
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm a walking house and be who I am. See,

1360
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: that's and that's what I was saying specifically about any thing. Right,

1361
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: It's one thing that had these big, stupid ass glasses on.

1362
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: It's another thing if I walk in this motherfuck with

1363
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: all these stupid ass blue mandanna's around my neck, riz

1364
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: elbow over exaggerating, I'm a crypt You know this is crip.

1365
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: There are things I could do, subtle things I could

1366
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: do that you will know this script. Maybe I get

1367
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: it in the side of my head. You know, these

1368
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: glasses over the top all the time becomes corny and clowny. Right,

1369
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: So but I digress, you know what I'm saying. That's

1370
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: the thing, you know, being honest with who you are, Like,

1371
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna fight no fucking trans person

1372
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: because they trans Like what the fuck I look like,

1373
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm not fighting nobody. I'm fucking you know. I mean,

1374
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm not fighting nobody that ain't did something wrong to

1375
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: me or deserve an ass kicking. Now. I mean, listen, man,

1376
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: I think your honesty is great, and I think that

1377
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: more people who feel the way you feel, because we

1378
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: obviously know there's a lot of people who feel that way.

1379
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's necessarily rooted in a place

1380
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: of hate. It's rooted in a place of misunderstanding and

1381
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: lack of you know, experience or education or whatever. It

1382
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: is the fact that, like you're open to having those

1383
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: conversations and sure, yeah, man, shit, I mean that shit

1384
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: is big. I don't think I think it's normal for thinking. Man,

1385
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: I need everybody else ain't got time to think. People

1386
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: just really living their life on auto pilot. I'm a

1387
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 1: thinking person. I like to think. I like to figure

1388
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: it out. I like to be comfortable. It could be

1389
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: a lack of exposure. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1390
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, look at the end of the day, right,

1391
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: there's kids that are being raised in communities that are

1392
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: probably fully white. Right, but that's been my point forever,

1393
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: that have no idea about black experience. That doesn't make

1394
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: them racist, no, not at all. It makes the ignorant probably, yeah,

1395
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: But but that think about this, think about this, right,

1396
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: But that's why I say I feel the same way

1397
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: about the word racism. It's thrown around entirely too much.

1398
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: Everything to describe everything is racist. It's like just like

1399
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: everything that's thrown around is a homophobic transphobia. Bro, you

1400
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: got to use that word much better, Like every community

1401
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: needs to use these words much better because to mislabel people,

1402
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: it's actually just kind of promoting the same hate you

1403
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: you're going against. Well, like, think about this. I grew

1404
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: up in Phoenix around I mean, my immediate friend group

1405
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: was African American and Mexican, right, But that was really

1406
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 1: the two minorities in my life that I was raised around.

1407
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: So I never really experienced a lot of culture outside

1408
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: of Black culture, Mexican culture, you know, my parents, you

1409
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But like, we went to New

1410
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: York earlier this year and we're in a part of

1411
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: Brooklyn where it was a Hasidic jew community, and that's

1412
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: something I never experienced. So I was like, truly, is

1413
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 1: that like is that like out here like city with

1414
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: with the hats and so that's that's like out there

1415
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: Miracle Mount probably, yes. So so the homie we were

1416
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: with was like yeah, they got their own police force.

1417
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: They don't on certain days, they don't touch a phone,

1418
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 1: they don't touch a buttons like it's you know, and

1419
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: they they're like, yo, they got their own ambulances. You

1420
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: could be on their street and get stabbed and be

1421
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: bleeding to death and their ambulance will pick you up.

1422
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: And it was just telling me like a rundown of

1423
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: like the Hasidic jew culture and shit, and I was enamored.

1424
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: I was like so intrigued because this is something I

1425
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: never even knew was a thing. Like we're in New

1426
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: York and I'm like, this shit is ill. Should I've

1427
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: been to New York and they was Spanish towns that

1428
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 1: was racist. But you know what I'm saying, Like, what

1429
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like just in general, like like you

1430
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: were saying earlier, like yo, you can't. Lack of exposure

1431
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: was the word you use, right, So in the same

1432
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: way that we probably know that there's kids being raised

1433
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 1: in white towns who don't know any black people. That's

1434
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: just there. You know, they might have to go to college.

1435
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: They might have to, you know, if they're blessing enough, Yeah,

1436
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: go live their life, because some of them kids will

1437
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: never get out of that fucking podunk town. Man, I

1438
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: didn't been on tour with Tech nine and been to towns.

1439
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: You could tell a dude told me I was a

1440
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: third black person you ever met, which is crazy. You're

1441
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: thinking in the two thousands, that's just a crazy concept.

1442
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: But again, it's one of those things where I don't

1443
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: waste my time. I'm trying to figure out. You know,

1444
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to change the one. I'm figuring out

1445
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: how to master myself and help as many people. That's

1446
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Hey, interrupting the interview to tell you

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the crypt thing, and I wanted to talk

1464
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: to you about this because I know that you're one

1465
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: of the more highly respected guys I've ever come across.

1466
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: Whenever I say, oh yeah, I know Jim alone, people

1467
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, You're from all walks

1468
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: of life. If this, if it was possible to be

1469
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: respected in this coach, the gangster ship, and also like

1470
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: this fucking guy. And you've done, you've done gathering at

1471
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: the Juggalos and all that shit. Yeah you've been. I

1472
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: mean you were signed a sub noise record for so yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1473
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: But I wanted to get your take on six '

1474
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: nine and you know, recently Whack, because Whack on my

1475
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 1: show said that he didn't feel like six ' nine

1476
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: was a snitch. He said he felt like he was

1477
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: a civilian who told the truth. He's not snitch. So

1478
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of get your take because I

1479
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: know you and I have had a discussion about the

1480
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 1: snitch shit, and it's essentially, you know, what do you

1481
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:57,879
Speaker 1: define as that? Okay, So the the flaw in wax

1482
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: discussion with that is he's a civilian, right, So on

1483
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: the West Coast, being a civilian means I guess in

1484
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: theory you're not a part of a gang. You're not

1485
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: a part of the army, the infantry, whatever. That is, right,

1486
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: based off of the real word. But everywhere else that's

1487
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: a rooted in criminal Like snitching has nothing to do

1488
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: with gangbanging. Snitching is rooted in being a criminal, you know,

1489
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: or mirtha and all these codes go back before crips

1490
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: and bloods or any gangs of black culture existed in

1491
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: this country. Not snitching is a thing in criminality like

1492
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: there are No criminal will respect him, no criminal period

1493
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 1: will respect him. And I just think Wax not a criminal.

1494
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,759
Speaker 1: Yet what he's saying is obviously not true. He knows

1495
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: that boy is a rat. That boy is a rat.

1496
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, he's a rat. It's only you're not a

1497
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: rat if you're not a criminal. Like if I did

1498
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: something to somebody that's not a criminal, that's what they're

1499
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: supposed to do in foreign the police. If you do

1500
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: something to a criminal, he's not supposed to We all

1501
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: know this. So because wax argument is rooted in whether

1502
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: or not six ' nine is a gang member. He

1503
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: was a convicted pervert. He was a drug dealer before

1504
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: you ever met the gang. So you're saying, I mean,

1505
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: and I don't disagree with you that the snitch stigma

1506
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: or the snitch definition what makes someone the snitch is

1507
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: not rooted in gang banging. It's not rooted in whether

1508
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: or not you're a cripper of blood or whatever. It's

1509
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: rooted in a criminal world. And he's a committed criminal.

1510
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 1: He's devoted to the lifestyle of being a criminal. He

1511
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: just told it's nothing man. That spin is a good

1512
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: spin for the average I'm saying the average fan out there,

1513
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's a great span for them.

1514
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: But if you're really in the life, man, he's a

1515
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 1: he's a rat. He know, he a rat. You think

1516
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: Whack Whack knows he's a rat. Yes, he got paid.

1517
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: You think Whack got paid? Oh, no way, got paid

1518
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: to do the interview. Wa got paid. Whack is one

1519
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: of the smartest motherfucker I met when it comes to

1520
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: this music shit. I agree Whack is a brilliant guy.

1521
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: Feel me he got paid. He he might have got

1522
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: to a three checks. I wouldn't be surprised if it

1523
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: come out he got a check because they talking about

1524
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: promoting a fight. I wouldn't be surprised if Couz got

1525
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: a check from you know, Spotify for doing the shit

1526
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: with academics. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a

1527
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 1: check from Lucien and Elliott for promoting the artists and

1528
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: trying to establish his brand. What got paid? It does

1529
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: feel like now six ' nine, if he were to

1530
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: like release music right now or try to get the

1531
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: music popping again, it does feel like that the Whack

1532
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: thing helped a lot as far as making it easier for,

1533
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: like you said, surface level consumers to swallow it, to

1534
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: believe he has some level of credibility and he has none.

1535
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: He's a horrible human being. Do you think like six '

1536
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: nine is one of Snitch nine is one of the

1537
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:56,879
Speaker 1: worst human beings? I've ever encountered like Hitler bad. He's horrible.

1538
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: He literally is manipulative, you know. He He's one of

1539
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: the type of people that you don't want to be around.

1540
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: He's literally full of shit. He will do anything to

1541
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: be to have attention, write anything, anything to have attention.

1542
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: And he's manipulative. He knows people aren't that bright, so

1543
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: he's taking advantage of it. Cous might be like shaping himself.

1544
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 1: He's manipulating a Mexican community by so all, he's Mexican, bro.

1545
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: That dude is full of shit. He's a fucking rat.

1546
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: He's a rat because he didn't want to deal with

1547
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: the crimes. He had other people do for him. He

1548
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: paid him. It has nothing to do with gang. They

1549
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: didn't do it for free. That's how much they didn't

1550
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: respecting that they he charged them. If I call my

1551
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: homeboy to do something, they gonna do it for me, period,

1552
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't call him. He paid them. He was

1553
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: a criminal before them, he'll be a criminal after them.

1554
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: Right now, he's a working informant. Like I'm looking at

1555
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: the stuff twenty one savage and I'm doing talking about

1556
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: fighting this man. What are y'all thinking? And this man

1557
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: will get you put in prison right now, this ain't over.

1558
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: You don't just snitch one time all on the case

1559
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,839
Speaker 1: that big can get that little time. He's a permanent informant.

1560
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: He's going to tell for twenty or thirty years that

1561
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: man is a rat. Whack no here rat. Everybody know

1562
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: you're rep do you? I mean? Because I mean look,

1563
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think Wack had

1564
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: a conversation with him in which he held him as

1565
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: accountable as we've seen someone hold him accountable. I don't

1566
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: know if you watched the interview, I wouldn't there. They

1567
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: be having clubhouses, I wouldn't be in a room listen.

1568
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 1: I won't. I won't consumers comp I won't consumer's content.

1569
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,839
Speaker 1: I won't do nothing. You know, I gave him a chance. Initially,

1570
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: I fucked with him. I listened to his music. I

1571
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: didn't appeared all that right, great records. But bro, once

1572
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: you once, once you are a criminal, and you break

1573
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: that code again. It's a sense of ethics. You have

1574
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: no real ethics as a human being. Feel me like,

1575
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm just not fucking with you. You were fucking well,

1576
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: let me ask you this with Whack like obviously, like

1577
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: you said, he's one of the more brilliant guys. I mean,

1578
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: I got love for Whack. Whack's always been solid with me.

1579
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: Do you think that he made a mistake by having

1580
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 1: that conversation with six or nine? And at least I

1581
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: don't think he's aligning himself with him in any capacity.

1582
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,480
Speaker 1: I think they obviously have an open line of communication.

1583
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: I think Whack held him accountable in that interview at all,

1584
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: but essentially saying you're a snitch, even though he said

1585
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: he know he's a damn like you know that music

1586
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: is corny. He know he's a snitch. So my question

1587
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: to you is, like, do you think Whack made a

1588
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: mistake even having any sort of, you know, conversation with

1589
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: that guy. It depends on what he values. I wouldn't

1590
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: have no conversation with that motherfucker for no amount of money.

1591
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: Whack might value something different, you know what I mean.

1592
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: It could be money. Maybe he never plans to be

1593
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: on Crenshaw Boulevard another day in his life, you know,

1594
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: Or he's not going or at the street races or

1595
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: in some level of street activity. Maybe he's transitioning to

1596
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: a business world. None of the niggas that I fuck

1597
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: with on no street level would ever do it. Even

1598
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: the ones that's in his business, they will never do that.

1599
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't give fuck what money, none of us fucking

1600
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: with that rat period at all, feel me. So, did

1601
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: Whack make a mistake, that's up to him. He had

1602
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: to value whatever he benefited from doing it. But he

1603
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: knows that what he's saying is definitely you know, he

1604
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: know he's a snitch. He didn't he know he he

1605
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 1: know the boys a rat. He know he a rat.

1606
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: It's obviously he's a rat. He rat it in front

1607
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: of everybody on paperwork. He's a rat. It's obvious he's

1608
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: a rat. You know what I'm saying. So Whack would

1609
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 1: probably be the person to ask if he made a mistake.

1610
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he should have did it. I think

1611
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: Whack making great money, you know, But then I'm not

1612
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: in the man pockets. I don't know what's important to him.

1613
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I mean, even knowing him,

1614
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: I never sat down to say, man, what's important to

1615
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: you is, Let's say, wha truly does believe he's a civilian.

1616
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like you don't think, not one like

1617
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: one seventeen percent. He does not believe he's none of that.

1618
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: It's not about that Whack. No, snitching has nothing to

1619
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: do with games. Whack is as smart, if not smarter

1620
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: than I am. He knows that why he's a snitch.

1621
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: But he also understands how to spend his story. He's

1622
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: really good at marketing. He's really good at what he does.

1623
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: But he know that boy is a snitch. And because

1624
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: he is representing power rule, because he is representing blood.

1625
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you should have did it at all

1626
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: because it's a bad look for the culture. Feel me

1627
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: completely in my mind, But Whack is one individual that

1628
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: represents Whack when it's said and done. You know, as

1629
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,440
Speaker 1: much as we all want to hold each other accountable,

1630
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep being a representation for the streets and

1631
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: all of the people that look to me. And I'll

1632
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: never sit down with that rat. And if I'm in

1633
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm like making them on the phone, hold up, I'm

1634
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: blowing feel me. I'm nigga fuck all that shit. I'm not.

1635
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm getting away from you. Feel me or if we

1636
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: got an issue, IM finna get cracking on you. It

1637
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: ain't it ain't nothing personal, bro, you just a fucking

1638
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: raggedy ass, evil ass, fucking satan ass bitch ass nigga

1639
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: use a fucking I don't disagree with you on the

1640
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: kid's character. I do think that what he kind of

1641
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: did was expose a lot of hip hop to be

1642
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: exactly that entertainment. When I'm not talking about with the

1643
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: whack thing, I mean just in general, like when he

1644
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: got out of jail and he, I mean he's seen it,

1645
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: ain't moving around rather nicely with no not I mean,

1646
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: I know, like like they overselling it. No, no, no,

1647
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: I know, so like he'd be with a lot of YouTube.

1648
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: I've heard. I've heard what you're talking about. I've heard that, right.

1649
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: But he's a really sinister kid. He's and he's not

1650
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: a kid. He's a really sinister, evil last man. You

1651
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's a really sinister, evil last man.

1652
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: He's really sinister. He's really evil. Nothing the body is cool, nothing,

1653
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: the bodym is good. Him dying would be the best

1654
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: thing that happened to his daughter. That's how fucked up

1655
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: over a motherfucker he is. Like, he's a horrible human being.

1656
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: His family would be better off without him. He's that

1657
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 1: horrible like you don't meet y'all don't see it's it's

1658
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: hidden behind all the bullshit and this rap shit, or

1659
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: you know he's exposed, he's not. He's evil, like he's

1660
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: a different level of sinister and he's a coward and

1661
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: he's not willing to be held account. He's doing ship

1662
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 1: where he know people can't get to him. He goes

1663
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: places in the middle of times when he know people

1664
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: that he's not walking up on people. And if he's

1665
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 1: walking up on him now, it's because he has a

1666
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: support of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. That's it. Nothing

1667
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: about him is good. His daughter would be better off

1668
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: without him, Like I hope you feel me. Eventually he

1669
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: understands how fucked up of a fucking human being he is.

1670
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,919
Speaker 1: He's a piece of shit, fucking rap and whack noses

1671
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: Whack knows whack know this. He not, he know, you know,

1672
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: they know, we all know. You've had a storied career

1673
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: in terms of obviously your come up, some of the

1674
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: labels you've been with, some of the tours you've been on. Uh,

1675
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think I first had got hip to

1676
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: you on one of the early Black Wall street mixtapes

1677
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: sounds about right. I feel like that. Yeah, that's where

1678
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: I started peace fold and then obviously you know, from there,

1679
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: you know, you end up with cash money. Cash money

1680
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 1: is a place, and Birdman is a guy who seems

1681
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 1: to be He's a legend, first of all, when it

1682
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: comes to just his tree is crazy. Probably to go.

1683
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: When it comes to his tree, either tree or Dre's tree,

1684
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: you gotta go. Yeah, Dre and Russ and Stunner probably

1685
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: got the trees of all trees. And so he's also

1686
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: a guy who's had some sort of like you know,

1687
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: polarized love hate thing going on the last ten years

1688
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: or so. When it comes to like him, what's perceived

1689
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,919
Speaker 1: as him maybe doing artists wrong. So sign the shitty contracts,

1690
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: whatever the case is, right, how is your experience on

1691
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: cash money great? It was, And I'm not saying it

1692
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: like I have no fear of none of that, no

1693
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: motherfucker right, But the dude was great to me. I

1694
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: learned more shit than I ever knew about the business.

1695
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: I learned the time, man, Like, it was awesome to me. Now,

1696
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, because you you also correct

1697
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. Were you also who banging as well. Yeah,

1698
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: same time Max Ten. So because I remember mac ten

1699
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: had banger Ball, which is one of the most slept

1700
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: on albums. Yeah, I like that that album's and he

1701
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: was on Cash Money. Was that who kind of introduced

1702
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: you into the cash ma? Ma ten? Did I feel

1703
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: like mac ten? We don't give him enough flowers? Man?

1704
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 1: You know, I agree? I agree because mac Ten I

1705
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: feel like he's not as active. We don't see him

1706
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: on like interviews like we see a lot of these

1707
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 1: other out of itself. You see his lad interview. He

1708
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: was like, yes, he wouldn't answer no question. He was like,

1709
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: was that what they said? Well, they said, y'all saw

1710
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 1: the thirty seven people, That's what they said. I was like,

1711
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: you knows what, you know what to do. But but

1712
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: so your your time on Cash Money was solid, Like

1713
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: what was amazing so far in your rap career? Right,

1714
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: because you've done records with everybody, what has been one

1715
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: time where you can remember as like your fondest memory

1716
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: as a fan of this shit while being in it,

1717
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 1: while being in it where you almost were like, damn,

1718
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: look who I'm standing next to or damn, look who

1719
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: I'm on the stage with it, or Damn. Look who

1720
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm on this record with, Like, what was that moment

1721
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: for you? Just recently with Rafaeosa Dick. Wow, I know

1722
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: that's crazy right through. So Scarface probably is my favorite rapper.

1723
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: So I take that back right, I'm not taking it back.

1724
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: It's three moments. I can't do one because now it's

1725
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: been so long, it's been fifteen years. So it's three

1726
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: specific times. The first time is when jay Z. I

1727
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: was in jay Z's office at Depth jamming. He was

1728
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: like talking about how dope I was and he wanted

1729
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: to sign me, and he was like, Yo, you wanted

1730
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: the best I ever heard do it from the West.

1731
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: That shit. I couldn't even talk during the whole meeting.

1732
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: Like my nigga d one of my best friends, had

1733
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: to talk for me because I had listened. I had

1734
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: consumed that much hole. I mean to where I'm living

1735
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: my life, ain't in drugs, to this nigging music. And

1736
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: one day I'm sitting in his office and he telling

1737
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: me how great I am. Like that shit fucked me up.

1738
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: That's tough, like you, I mean, that was like tough.

1739
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Not signing to him was tough. You know what I'm saying?

1740
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: That was one of them, the second one of them

1741
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: probably Okay, So then that's where the roth Felsa Dieke

1742
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: comes in. I just did a record with him, probably

1743
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 1: with the within a year ago, and you know, I

1744
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: was talking to him Richie rich hooked me up with

1745
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 1: him and he gave me my number and we was talking,

1746
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: chopping up. He's like, yeah, I know you is I

1747
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 1: fuck with your ship? You tough? And and I sent

1748
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: him a record and just how helpful he was he

1749
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: was explaining certain things. That ship was like crazy, it's

1750
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: ro it's my mom. You know, it's kind of like

1751
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 1: one of my mom's favorite bands, Tony Tony Tone. I

1752
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: grew up to this ship and this is I feel

1753
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: a deep Like still Ray is my ship for R

1754
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 1: and B for me. So that ship was like Cray.

1755
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: Even now sometimes be like I got his number in

1756
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: my phone, I'll be like, damn, I feel it's a deep.

1757
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: And the third one is not really me right, the

1758
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: third one is and I don't think people really know.

1759
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: But it's when Jay Rock win went gold. Hmmm, right,

1760
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 1: why was that such a big deal? Because I know

1761
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: where we came from. I know how much shit we

1762
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: went through, and Jay Rock for people who don't know,

1763
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 1: like there was an entire generation in La hip hop

1764
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: that was kind of shunned exactly, and and and he

1765
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: was a part of it. You were a part of it,

1766
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: and so many others were part of it. And because

1767
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 1: forever the only only dude that really had any attention

1768
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,919
Speaker 1: or love was Game. Yeah, we doctor dre production. Honestly,

1769
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 1: it matters. The producer is the key, you know what

1770
01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But Jay Rock Win, when I seen when

1771
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: they had put out a press release that they went gold.

1772
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: So the first record that he you know, he had

1773
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: the record that was the future and Kendrick right, that's

1774
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: platinum right right. But then when Win happened and I

1775
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 1: seen the press release go out, like it was like

1776
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: a part of me that just felt like Wade came off,

1777
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: you know, like my shoulders and it had shit to

1778
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: do with me. I mean, it was just like damn man,

1779
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 1: like look what we had to go through to get here,

1780
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: Like it's it's fucking me up there later, you know

1781
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, and like my nigga went through

1782
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 1: a lot. Man. We don't even talk as much as

1783
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: we used to. You know, we don't see each other

1784
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: as much as we used to, but like that shit

1785
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: meant so much to me, Like that ship was so important.

1786
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 1: I had to see that happen. You know, I think

1787
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: about Pe and certain homies all the time. Problem Bishop,

1788
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, all the shit we went through just to

1789
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: try to bring the West Coast together and to be shunned. Yeah,

1790
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: nip man, like that ship. It bothers me, but I

1791
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,759
Speaker 1: can't see him get his shit. You know, everybody finally

1792
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: showing him love, and it's like y'all waited till this

1793
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 1: man was gone. Now. I remember having interviews with Nipsey

1794
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 1: were around the time where he was really not fucking

1795
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: with the fact that Dre was not co signing all

1796
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 1: these young We all went through that, yeah, I mean,

1797
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 1: and we knew how important. We just didn't know why.

1798
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: But we figured out why it was so important. But honestly, man,

1799
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: that Jay Rock getting that gold plaque for when like that,

1800
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: for sure is the most thirst And I celebrated it

1801
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: to myself. I mean, I wrote a song a verse

1802
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: about it on somebody Else's feature and talked about how

1803
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 1: hard it was for all of us and how it

1804
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 1: finally happened for him. You know what I'm saying that

1805
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: shit is like one of the greatest things. It's like

1806
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: one of the greatest stories in hip hop that's not

1807
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: told how much shit he went through. If y'all know

1808
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 1: how much shit he went through, man, and how cold

1809
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 1: it was for us, and how niggas shut us down

1810
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: and shut us out, and you don't realize, like that

1811
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: label was started on Jay Rock's back exactly. You know

1812
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. People don't understand the different Like there

1813
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 1: was the he was on Warner Brothers and then that

1814
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: they don't know how to handle nobody on the West Coast,

1815
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that didn't work out,

1816
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 1: and then they tried to strange music then put them

1817
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: on Toward with tech, you know what I mean. Like

1818
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 1: there's so much and when it all came down, it

1819
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 1: was right there. It was all sitting right there, and

1820
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: so just the watch that happened was like, man, it

1821
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: was special. Even every time I hear the commercial like

1822
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: I just smiled and such a that's so soon it's

1823
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna lift forever. Yeah snks in movies and hear it

1824
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: in Singsic Sports Center. I just smiled so big and

1825
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: then nobody know what I'm thinking, but I'm like, man,

1826
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: thank god, yeah, feel me, thank God. What was your

1827
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: most successful record, certified? Was it? What was your biggest

1828
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: record as far as like, so Certified is somewhere close

1829
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: to God, I would say that Good. I think that

1830
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 1: Good is my greatest record. It may not be the

1831
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: most that has soul right, but it's the one to

1832
01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: head exactly first beat and but it was the one

1833
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: we built from the ground up, and to me, it

1834
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: was the first time one of my records was celebrated

1835
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: went with great club record. No, not the akond of Setter,

1836
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: for obviously, that's a fantast tomb Like you know, what

1837
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: song I really loved was the one with the what

1838
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 1: was the name of that that group that was on

1839
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 1: the hook I Get money or I Get There, I

1840
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: Get There? That was so dope, the cataracts I get.

1841
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: But the most important obviously is Tupac Must Die. That's

1842
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: the one that's when I finally put my own brick

1843
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 1: in hip hop and it had my name on it.

1844
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 1: For that, like the whole culture, they couldn't unify behind

1845
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: me for no moment when it comes to music, I mean,

1846
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: and that became that moment where it's like, damn, I'm there.

1847
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So now I feel like

1848
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 1: i'm you know really that's why I got. I got

1849
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: shipped to do still ship that make crack, I got

1850
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: its own. I know you're sitting on I mean, you

1851
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: haven't put out a ton of music. I'm just starting

1852
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: putting out singles again. Just mean in terms of like

1853
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: your output hasn't been crazy, but the song doesn't matter. Yeah,

1854
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: but it's gonna go up now. Me and you feel

1855
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: the same way about one album, and that is Doggy Style.

1856
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: I think Doggy Style is in my life, the most

1857
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: important album ever. Definitely the greatest hip hop of all time.

1858
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: I put it around two or three, you know the

1859
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: number one clearly, but Doggy Style like changed my life.

1860
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: That was What's funny is I wasn't even a fan

1861
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: of Doggy Style like that. That's literally probably twelve years

1862
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: old or thirteen years old, bro. I was five and

1863
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: my grandma got that tape on accident in the mail.

1864
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 1: Remember it used to be able to go in the

1865
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: magazine and remember that. So she had like fifteen tapes

1866
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: delivered to her house and one of them was Doggy Style.

1867
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how I got in there. But my

1868
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 1: grandma's old as fuck. She didn't fucking Snoop Dog That's

1869
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: how I fuck got It's a fucking cartoon cover. She

1870
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: don't know what it was, Snoop DOGG so she gave everybody.

1871
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: So she gives me Doggy Style. And I had already

1872
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: had like boys de men, some boys dement shit right

1873
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: the dog you stay. I'm five, I'm in kindergarten, and

1874
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 1: I'm at night in my bed with my little walkman.

1875
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 1: This is horrible pearing just what's funny? That's why I

1876
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,560
Speaker 1: had already learned the entire fucking album by heart. And

1877
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 1: then my mom had heard me listening to it and

1878
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: freaked out and took it, took the tape from me.

1879
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: So I already knew it, and then I and then

1880
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: I found it and took it back, and yeah, what's

1881
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 1: funny is I have no personal connection. I just love

1882
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 1: that album. It is so I point the first time

1883
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: I ever met Snoop, I'm like, bro, you changed my

1884
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: life with Dog. You don't understand like you you know,

1885
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: keep turning me out as a five year old. I

1886
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 1: have no personal connection to It's just such a person.

1887
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect album. And I think Snoop

1888
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: Dogg is, like, you know, I feel like somehow he's

1889
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: still underappreciate it. But he's the greatest hip hop artist ever.

1890
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: He's the greatest hip hop artist ever with the greatest

1891
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 1: hip hop album ever. And again it's tough. It's in

1892
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: your face. I mean, Snoop is, like I was just

1893
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: telling my partner, and I say this a lot Snoopers

1894
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: like McDonald's. Man, he came out, you feel me, big Matt.

1895
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 1: You know that he had to gangster rap like it's

1896
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 1: fast food, like it's the Big Mags gangster rap. And

1897
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: since then he's been able to deliver pimping and chicken nuggets,

1898
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He been able to deliver

1899
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: gospel albums and parfas and all kind of reggae ship

1900
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: and all kind of shit and everything in the world.

1901
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: I think he's the I think I think he's the biggest.

1902
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 1: You know, I think Snoop, I think when you say

1903
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 1: he's the greatest, so I said the greatest, I understand

1904
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 1: that because he's the biggest. He's like you said, he's

1905
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 1: like McDonald's. Because nobody doesn't know who Snoop is. I

1906
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: don't care how old you are. Exactly, my ninet year

1907
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: old lady knows who Snoop Dogg is. Exactly. Nobody has

1908
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: ever been there know him because he's a fucking rapper.

1909
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: They don't know him because he does this that that,

1910
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: Oh the rapper Snoop. It's Snoop Man. And I've been

1911
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: hearing a lot of slack about that, like people like

1912
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't have no personal I don't have no personal

1913
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 1: connection to Doggie staff. That's not like I heard you

1914
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 1: know who in mind the songs like okay cool, but

1915
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: when I was coming into my own, For me, I'm

1916
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 1: more of a baby dog food, you know what I mean,

1917
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 1: or the shadiest one. I'm a baby at those product.

1918
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:05,600
Speaker 1: I know you love the shadiest Yeah, like with a

1919
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: whole other regards, but doggy style is what hip hop

1920
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: is all about. Like when Cool hirking them through that

1921
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: party on August eleventh, I think it's nineteen seventy three,

1922
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And it was a party

1923
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 1: that's Snoop Dogg's music. You came to the most cultural

1924
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 1: phenomenon of a party ever with that project. Yeah, I

1925
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: think Snoop has not only that album, but I just

1926
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 1: think in terms of like figuring out, like everyone who

1927
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 1: does music, their goal should be to figure out what's

1928
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 1: Snoop figured out? And that's how to no matter what's

1929
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: going on, Like Snoop don't need a record on the

1930
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: radio to be relevant. Snoop is never not going to

1931
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 1: be relevant never, And how do you do think about it?

1932
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 1: I was at home on Peacock watching this motherfucker literally

1933
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: throwing on. I'm not watching the Olympics. I've been watching

1934
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 1: the Snoop talk about the Olympic. Snoop fuck was throwing

1935
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 1: the javelin cuz and that bro, you got hit them.

1936
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: He's not an Olympic. NBC jacket on talking about how

1937
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: the horse was Kripwalker and he's, Cousin, that's what I'm saying.

1938
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: He's cussing, you know, he's yes, you know he's talking

1939
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 1: about the man. That horse is krip walking. I see

1940
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 1: him on Channel eleven, cousin Christina Devine, Look Christina Cuz.

1941
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: I was like, god, damn, that's really what Greaton has

1942
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 1: looked like. This motherfucker is crazy. But again, man, when

1943
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: you really step back and you look at that, like

1944
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: I said, you go back to August eleven, nineteen seventy

1945
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 1: there it's a party. Is Doctor Drake DJing Snoop on them?

1946
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 1: I think the only artist I've seen that might have

1947
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: a chance to be that big, like in thirty years

1948
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: is maybe Drake. But I don't think Drake has the

1949
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:46,759
Speaker 1: personality or the chemistry the Snoop ass. Drake doesn't represent culture.

1950
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: That's the problem. I mean, like Snoop is the phenomenon

1951
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 1: because he's the centerpiece in the face of probably Black

1952
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:59,719
Speaker 1: America's greatest, maybe not as celebrated, but most famous culture.

1953
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: Gang culture. Man, he is the face of it, right, crips,

1954
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 1: and he was the face over here, was the face

1955
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 1: of it during a time when the allure was at

1956
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: an all time high. Well think about it, right you

1957
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: you we talked about this the other day. Colors is

1958
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,639
Speaker 1: the initial exposure at the highest level. Right, you move forward,

1959
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 1: you get Boys in the Hood, which is a film

1960
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: about it that does seventy million right in ninety one,

1961
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: and then here go these niggas, you know, doctor Dread Snoop.

1962
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 1: It's like a they picked up Boys in the Hood

1963
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 1: and just like, let's finish it off, and Snoop just

1964
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 1: took it to a level. You know, Ice T Gangs

1965
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: wrapping and Snoop just finished and he's the face. Drake's

1966
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 1: situation is different because he's just a pop star. Drake

1967
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 1: has always been a pop star. It's like Snoop didn't

1968
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 1: start as a pop star. No, and even now as

1969
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: much as a pop he's still not a pop star.

1970
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: He's still not a pop still Snoop Dogg, He's still Snoop.

1971
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 1: Like he ascends past some of these things. Like you said,

1972
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: some shit don't make sense and Snoop, I like if

1973
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 1: you were to say, like Snoop would be if we think,

1974
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 1: you know, thirty years down the line that Snoop would

1975
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 1: be hosting shows of Martha Stewart or hosting the Olympics,

1976
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: you would just in nineteen ninety four, someone would have

1977
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: told you that. You would have said, what if you'd

1978
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 1: have told me he was going to be out of prison?

1979
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 1: Goody was gonna go to fucking prison for murder? So again, man,

1980
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: Snoop is just different, anomaly man, everything you know Sug.

1981
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: You know, Shug doesn't get enough credit, Doctor Dre doesn't

1982
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 1: get enough credit. You know, you still got probably the

1983
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: greatest vision with sug Knight, who understood the vision for

1984
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 1: what was going on, right, and you got the greatest people,

1985
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: the greatest person probably at the time or period making

1986
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:42,959
Speaker 1: hip hop records, I mean, and they put together August eleventh,

1987
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, the greatest party the West Coast ever had.

1988
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: This is the greatest party we ever offered the world.

1989
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 1: Like you came to this party and Snoop is on

1990
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: the mic and Warren g is on the couch. It's

1991
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 1: the greatest party you've ever been to. You hear it.

1992
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 1: They got the liquor, they got a special liquor that

1993
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 1: they drag, and you drank gin and juice. You got

1994
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 1: the lingo. It's the culture is there? Feel me? It's

1995
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: the greatest party you could go to. It. No matter

1996
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 1: what we think about hip hop, it's still rooted in

1997
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 1: a party. Well, it's funny because you and I have

1998
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: had an argument about You said, Drake's not hip hop, no, no,

1999
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,679
Speaker 1: no no, And I said, listen, Drake makes hip hop music.

2000
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: And you said, well, Drake, there's no culture with Drake.

2001
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: I think Drake makes rap records, okay. And I understand

2002
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: the concept of and the reason I really kind of

2003
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: didn't even care about this conversation no more is because

2004
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 1: I never thought of it as a derogatory thing. Like

2005
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 1: I never thought as a derogatory thing to classify things.

2006
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't Again, I'm back to the same point of

2007
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't care how you want me to look at you.

2008
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the classification of things so we have

2009
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: some sense of things that we can share, versus we

2010
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: creating the world where everybody could be anything they want.

2011
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't like that, right, Like, you know what I mean.

2012
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that's wise. I think that's really ignorant.

2013
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 1: And it's going to come into a place more. You're

2014
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 1: gonna bread a lot of people wasting their time. It's

2015
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people already confused. We already

2016
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: come into this world confused, and you're allowing me to

2017
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 1: exist in the space of confusion, right, which means a

2018
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 1: suicide rate is gonna go up. But with Drake specifically,

2019
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: hip hop is culture. It's lingo, it's style, its cuisine,

2020
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 1: it's fashion. Everything about it is the flavor. Feel me.

2021
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: The flavor. It's like you know what I mean, It's

2022
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 1: like soulful, It's like like yes, like the concept of

2023
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: fried Chicken initially could be soul for right. That don't

2024
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:41,719
Speaker 1: mean Kentucky Fried Chicken sell soul food. They got greens,

2025
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 1: that don't mean they sell soul food. They got all

2026
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 1: this stuff that don't mean they sell soul. Full rapp

2027
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,560
Speaker 1: was popularized by hip hop, but it is not exclusive.

2028
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: Debbie Harry was rapping in the saying, Drake makes rap music,

2029
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 1: but he's not hip hop. No, I think that he's

2030
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 1: not a cultured rapper. He has no culture. He doesn't

2031
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 1: represent any culture. Drake is a fantastic rapper who makes

2032
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: fantastic rap songs that turn into pop songs. And he

2033
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: could sing his fucking ass off the way he sings.

2034
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: He can carry a note only the way he can.

2035
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:18,799
Speaker 1: He makes fantastic records. NonStop is one of my favorite

2036
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 1: fucking records period, feel me. But again, to compare him

2037
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 1: to somebody that's carrying the burden of culture on their back,

2038
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: like a Jay Z or a Snoop, These dudes represent

2039
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 1: entire rams of worlds of shit. I mean, ideas, all

2040
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 1: of this. They represent it with the way they talk,

2041
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,679
Speaker 1: the way they speak, everything about what they're doing there,

2042
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 1: they're walking with more. Drake is a I mean, and

2043
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to simplify his life because I'm sure

2044
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: he had his own struggles. But this is a kid

2045
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 1: that come from Nickelodeon. That's a rapper, what you know.

2046
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a different plight. This nigga came

2047
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: from a Doe spot. This nigga came from feel Me

2048
01:44:56,640 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: Long Beach cripping. The plifs are different calling you know, man,

2049
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:07,480
Speaker 1: it's just crazy. But again, I never thought of THEFC analogies.

2050
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense. Yeah, I never thought of

2051
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: it as a negative connotation. I didn't think could Drake

2052
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: be considered one of the greatest of all time? Then

2053
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 1: in your eyes artists rapper MC, yeah it's a rapper. Sure,

2054
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I'm a fucker rap. I'm a fucker rap.

2055
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 1: But again, hip hop is his own special thing. So

2056
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 1: like he could be one of the greatest rappers. He

2057
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 1: could rap his eyes off that MoU he could rap.

2058
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 1: I mean, but then again, people talk about righting and

2059
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 1: all kind of shit. But yeah, I mean, listen, I

2060
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: think that that's a discussion that's been beat over the head.

2061
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 1: I think Drake, I'm confident Drake and rapping. It's it's obvious. Yeah,

2062
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 1: I mean now, now, Steven wanted to what I have

2063
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 1: liked him to have replied to push your t Sure,

2064
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: that's different. He didn't want that smoke. You don't go

2065
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 1: to the cultures, different when you go into the root

2066
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: of culture. But he but he did get me. He

2067
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: got Meek Miller b out of here for a couple

2068
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 1: of years. Yeah, but Meek is and as much as

2069
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 1: Mik is, that's different. Mik is somebody who literally his

2070
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 1: whole story is I was broken. I'm rich, that's fair.

2071
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, push is different. Push. I told everybody I

2072
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 1: said that that ain't Meek Mill, y'all better different And

2073
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: all these white kids who don't know about the clips

2074
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 1: and push your tea, y'all don't know what you're signing

2075
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 1: up for. And he knew if he gave a record,

2076
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 1: he would give life to that record. You don't want

2077
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 1: people to hear that record. So the best way to

2078
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: do it is just back away, like oh that you

2079
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 1: know that way you don't because if you mentioned him,

2080
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: people going to hear that. And when they hear that,

2081
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: you know, violence is violence, and they gonna know like

2082
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: that ship is savagery because that pushes the product of culture.

2083
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 1: That's savagery. Yeah. Push is one of my favorite rappers ever.

2084
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 1: So pushes some ship man that ship is fucking. I

2085
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 1: was just I was like chomping at the bed. And

2086
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys that was cheering for Drake

2087
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 1: and the Meek Meal battle and you know me too,

2088
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 1: me too. At the time, I just wanted him to

2089
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: fight back, like, don't let these dudes pick on you, yo,

2090
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,839
Speaker 1: stand up, like, you know, get cracking. I didn't appreciate

2091
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 1: like Meek's whole entire Twitter ship, and I just thought

2092
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 1: I didn't. He stepped out of character a lot, and I,

2093
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, I tend to find out it's his character, right,

2094
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 1: but look to find out at first he was so so.

2095
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: But when Drake came with fucking back to back, I

2096
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 1: remember li but but you know what, it might have

2097
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 1: fucked Drake up because he turned into a super tough

2098
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 1: guy after that. And then but but then Pushing t

2099
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 1: was like, hold up, it's different. Yeah. Push is one

2100
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 1: of those guys where you're like, you know the same

2101
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 1: thing with Kendricks is not a gangster rapper, but you know,

2102
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 1: nobody wants to with Kendrick. That's the product of culture.

2103
01:47:57,400 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 1: Nobody like like you notice, like I'm like, Yo, nobody

2104
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 1: want smoke a push your t Nobody wants smoke with

2105
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar, And nobody really wants to smoke with Freddy

2106
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: Gibbs either, because fred has had some dare people to

2107
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 1: say his name on records. There's like certain artists where

2108
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: you're like, Yo, Royce to five nine, you don't want

2109
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 1: that problem. You don't want the Royce to five to

2110
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 1: nine problem on a record. Lupe was only until I

2111
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 1: was teasing give it their friends they got a podcast together.

2112
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 1: But what's funny is, look, so you don't want problems

2113
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 1: with the root of culture. Yeah, Like when you see

2114
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 1: somebody represents a bunch of people, like they represent a lifestyle,

2115
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 1: they represent through hopes and dreams, you don't want to

2116
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 1: fuck with that person. And some of these dudes really

2117
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: represent that and not being one. I mean, it's some

2118
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 1: guys that represent a lot. You just notice certain people

2119
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 1: like just you don't say their name, you know, you know,

2120
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: I will say this. One of those guys who I

2121
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: thought would just be a bad idea that step two

2122
01:48:56,479 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: was eminem but I thought MGK got them And I

2123
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: don't think he got him lyrically, but I think he

2124
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,639
Speaker 1: wanted it. I don't even think Eminem has really good.

2125
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 1: My favorite Eminem disc record is the one with you MGK.

2126
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: My favorite ship was the Ship hits the Fan, like

2127
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 1: all that ship. I love that era when it was

2128
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 1: just a lot of mixtape ship to him talking. I

2129
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: talk about Jo rule that the only good disc records

2130
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 1: on Java was fifth Oh yeah, everything else. I could

2131
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 1: have just the Eminem But the Eminem record where he

2132
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: did mg K, that was one of my favorite because

2133
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 1: you know why, he had fun with it. I just

2134
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 1: think that mg K won because it was too close

2135
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 1: and mg K had a great record. Mg had a

2136
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: great record and the fact that we even thought about

2137
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 1: it means mg K one Eminem is is. By the way,

2138
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: MGK is not like he's a good rapper, you know

2139
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's a rock but he's not in

2140
01:49:56,280 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 1: the same arena a world as MC. But the difference

2141
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 1: is a great song versus a great rap. Me Also,

2142
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:10,600
Speaker 1: the subject matter was like, yeah, yeah, that's made a

2143
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 1: great record. The same thing think about think about so

2144
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 1: when Pusher put out his freestyle against Drake, Pusher wasn't

2145
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 1: even trying to rap. He was just he went to

2146
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: hit him up ro out with that first freestyle. That's

2147
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,679
Speaker 1: why I couldn't wait to see the second record, because

2148
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is just him just being extremely

2149
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,640
Speaker 1: disrespectful at hitting record. He hasn't even applied himself as

2150
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 1: an MC yet. Yeah, yeah, no, it's different again the

2151
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:36,679
Speaker 1: root of culture. I like the eminem dis to MGK,

2152
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 1: Like I thought the this itself I was my favorite disc.

2153
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 1: I thought he had a lot of fun. I think

2154
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: he MC his ass off. But again, competing with a

2155
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: record is different. In MGK. That's probably mgk's best record too,

2156
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 1: it's not. I mean, I love MGK. He's been putting

2157
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: out some rock shit lately that reminds me of like

2158
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 1: Lincoln eighty two and shit. So I'm like, hey, this

2159
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 1: reminds me of high school. It was bad, east Side

2160
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: was cool. He had some cool joints, But that one

2161
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 1: is probably his greatest record, That's the thing. Yeah, I

2162
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: mean I feel the same way about NAS. I think

2163
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,560
Speaker 1: ether is Noah's greatest word. I hate that beat. You

2164
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 1: hate the beat? I beat his fucking fire Ron browse

2165
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 1: ever the bitching you by coming favorite or greatest? My

2166
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: favorite favorite favorite, not greatest favorite. I think the greatest

2167
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:27,560
Speaker 1: just hit him up, that's probably the greatest. You know,

2168
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 1: vasline is crazy. That's a toughness up there. My favorite

2169
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 1: Dish record, man, Honestly, the greatest is probably back to

2170
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 1: Back though, because that still gets played on the radio

2171
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,640
Speaker 1: and in the club. Yeah, it's it's different too. That's

2172
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 1: a monster talking about just like a record for playability.

2173
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 1: Favorite Dish record. Damn, that's a good Dish you know what.

2174
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 1: I won't lie and it's probably gonn to be some ship.

2175
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,639
Speaker 1: But dollars and cents DJ Quick oh man, that they said,

2176
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: eh T was shit? I continue, you left out the

2177
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 1: G because the G ain't in you? That record was

2178
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 1: fire fire. I ate about that. I said, when you

2179
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 1: heard that line, did you at least like because that

2180
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 1: line was crazy? We said, e I h T. But

2181
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 1: should I continue? You left out the G because the g'

2182
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: Oh no? He was like, yeah, no, that ship was hard.

2183
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 1: That was a good record. That one was like and

2184
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 1: I liked eight, I liked h. Steele, but it was like, fuck, nah,

2185
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 1: that ship was crazy. It had to be that Dollars

2186
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 1: and cents dollars and says it's legend that's a quick

2187
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 1: Another guy on the second is Takeover, and people don't

2188
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 1: talk about Takeover. Why. I don't think it's because it's

2189
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: not a full disc record. It's lines on it. We

2190
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 1: got a lot of people on Takeover. No, butsonically, I

2191
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 1: think it's probably my favorite. I think it's such a

2192
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 1: The beat is so good. Ether was great because I'm

2193
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:55,600
Speaker 1: a NAS fan before I'm a j Man was like

2194
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 1: the tidal wave bro hit him up, my boy Deep.

2195
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: It was like, fuck jay Z. It was just like

2196
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 1: that ship was Jicks sucking lips. Yeah, you can't beat

2197
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:08,600
Speaker 1: that type of energy. I was teasing my boy. My

2198
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 1: boy is a super duper NAS fan, and I'm a

2199
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 1: super at this time. Hole. I fuck with Hole. When

2200
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 1: Takeover came out on a blueprint and I was just

2201
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 1: playing it over, he was in the car like, yeah, yo,

2202
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 1: wait on none of this smoke and Ether drop, I

2203
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 1: was like, fucking christ ship Man, ether Man. That ship

2204
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:28,720
Speaker 1: is a part of the culture, That record is a

2205
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 1: part of the culture. That title that that music is

2206
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: part of me. Now you get it. It's a verb.

2207
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: You got ether? People said, man, man, you got ether,

2208
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 1: Like stand yeah, lambs exactly. Everyone says no, you're a

2209
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:46,919
Speaker 1: stand for that stand off of some hip hop ship. Yeah, Nas, Nasah,

2210
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 1: you know what song I didn't think get enough love

2211
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 1: was the song the Blueprint two? On the Blueprint two

2212
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: or that just Blazebee where he's like when the when

2213
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 1: the when the the what did he say when the

2214
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 1: grass is cut? The Snow Show. Gotta thank the little

2215
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 1: homie NAS for that, though, just because he wears a coofie,

2216
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:06,759
Speaker 1: it don't mean that he's right. Is it Uchie Wally Wally?

2217
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 1: There is? It wasn't Mike is it? Black Girl? Lost

2218
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 1: as it? Shorty owe you for ice? No one talked

2219
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 1: about that because the battle was already won by NAS.

2220
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 1: It was over funny is so like right my favorite

2221
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 1: NAS verse like all my homies obviously, if you like

2222
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 1: jays is my favorite rapper ever. M see ever, that's crazy,

2223
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 1: It's that's dope. So but if you're a jay Z fan,

2224
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 1: naturally NAS fans literally the clashed. I love. I love both,

2225
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 1: but I was I was on that side where I

2226
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 1: was like Manu rich So as a whole fan right

2227
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: as a deep way and NAS fans, I remember, right,

2228
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 1: I would you know we would be talking ship to

2229
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 1: this day as much as even I've grown to appreciate.

2230
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 1: I've always liked nas No as a rapper. I just

2231
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 1: I thought was overrated, I thought crazy. Listen not It's

2232
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 1: just it's just the shadiest one for New York. Just

2233
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: his greatest rap. I'm not even mad if that's what

2234
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 1: you feel, right, But I'm just saying it was. It

2235
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 1: was super you know, a regional idea that became bigger.

2236
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 1: But over the time, right, my favorite naship we made

2237
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: you the Verse on Kanye record right even now right

2238
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 1: listening to him now with hit like put on hit

2239
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 1: and do shit for hit, right, It's amazing. But I

2240
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 1: find myself still teasing my homies, like I'm like, yeah,

2241
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 1: little nas X got nas name. It's funny, right, how

2242
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: that shit never dies? You still be teasing your homies like, yeah,

2243
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 1: this is the new nas you know niggas high. Nas

2244
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 1: Empty is my favorite man now is my favorite MC,

2245
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 1: and Kanye is my favorite artist. Kanye is just unbelievable discography.

2246
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how fuck the music everything he does animal,

2247
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: He's an animal man ship, He's an animal. I think

2248
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 1: I was just not a fan of the Jesus King

2249
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 1: album outside of that, but I'm also I mean, we

2250
01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: discussing I'm an atheist. I'm not into the god ship

2251
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: anything they got spirit. I don't hate anything. I just

2252
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: I just was like, man, this is just forcing it

2253
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 1: down to I guess it's kind of like the you know,

2254
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 1: the Little For me, it was like like Jesus Walks. Yeah,

2255
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 1: but it was one song on an album. So you

2256
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 1: said an album, wasn't I wasn't. There were some beats

2257
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 1: on it that were crazy shout out to the Homie books,

2258
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: but the whole album, sure, it wasn't. It was Jesus Walk.

2259
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't Jesus don't do that. No, no, no, no, no.

2260
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 1: Jesus walks and Jesus talking about subject matterwise, but Jesus

2261
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 1: Walks still as an agreement. I mean, it's one of

2262
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 1: the best. Kanye Satan is probably playing Jesus Walk, right.

2263
01:56:31,360 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: Jesus Walk was a fucking banger, right, And it was

2264
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: one song on a song of I mean, nineteen twenty

2265
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 1: one records whatever called drop it was. It was like

2266
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 1: one out of that much Jesus Walks was or Jesus

2267
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:46,160
Speaker 1: King was like super unfocused. Now Kanye, he was not focused,

2268
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: and it was like I thought that all the fucking

2269
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,120
Speaker 1: the shit he was doing with all the the choir

2270
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 1: and all that shit was corny. I like that. I

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01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 1: don't think it was quanny corny. I thought that Kanye

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01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: has always been a spiritual person. No, I don't disagree.

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01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 1: I just thought that ship was very like purpose. It

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01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 1: didn't feel genuine. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like

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01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 1: it just got like I think I felt. I think

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01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 1: he was. I think he was in a weird place

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01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 1: and I think he was going through it for sure. Personally,

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01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 1: he's been going through a lot. Mentally. I mean, I

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01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 1: think I think he had to kind of get spiritually centered.

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01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 1: And I think I forgive Kanye for all kinds of

2281
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: fuckery and I forgive him for the for the Jesus.

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01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Kanye is my favorite artist ever, Like I

2283
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 1: love Kanye. I can't wait for Donda to come out.

2284
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 1: I just hope it does not disappoint. I don't think

2285
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:36,520
Speaker 1: it will, and how could it live up to these expectations.

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01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna. I mean, for me, I think

2287
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: it will. I just need to I just need to

2288
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 1: competence Kanye album and I'll be happy. I'll be honest

2289
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: with you, Kanye could do everything right now. And I

2290
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 1: really Kanye is probably the only rapper ever who just

2291
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: do what the fuck he wes. I just like, yay, bro,

2292
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 1: whatever ya gonna do because I'm fucking with it. And

2293
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 1: and I and I and I think it's always from

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01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 1: a genuine place. Has Kanye been corney? I don't really

2295
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: think Kanye. I don't think he does things without soul. No,

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01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't think Kanye's corny. Yeah yeah, no, I I

2297
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:08,920
Speaker 1: just said for me, I just thought that there. I

2298
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: remember the wire thing. Just to me, it's just one thing.

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01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 1: I have to go to a Kanye concert. I've never

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01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 1: been to a Kanye I've been to every tour except

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01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 1: the Pablo tour. Because the date I was supposed to

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01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 1: go to, I might get I might get him become

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01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: performed at my birthday party. I've been to all the

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01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 1: Kanye tours. The best show I ever been to was

2305
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 1: was the Yeezest tour. He had a mountain on stage.

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01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: I heard about that. Have Kanye perform at my birthday party.

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01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: That's what I might do. I'm like, where is this

2308
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 1: going to be at? I don't know, to be at

2309
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 1: like a house, a small house. He could rock like

2310
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 1: thirty people go old school for me, that would be

2311
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 1: like crazy, Let's get to it. Hey, I'll be there,

2312
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:46,200
Speaker 1: Just give me my invite. Man. Hey, well look man,

2313
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:52,800
Speaker 1: g Malone plug the podcast No Silings, Black Effect Network,

2314
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 1: see network. Why don't you do video because I wasn't.

2315
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't comfortable with where I was at speaking. Now

2316
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:00,720
Speaker 1: we're just finna get into it because I feel like

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01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 1: it'd be much bigger, much video. I had to get

2318
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 1: good at it versus rushing like I think a lot

2319
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 1: of rappers rushing to it and then that's why they struggle.

2320
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to get good at it first.

2321
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 1: So you feel comfortable now, I feel like the visual

2322
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: aspect of important. Yeah, and it's gonna take it to

2323
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 1: that level man, No ceilings. It's available everywhere you listen

2324
01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 1: to podcasts. It's all about, you know, conversations with pariz

2325
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 1: in our community and polarizing topics and really running into

2326
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 1: the fire instead of leaving everybody in the house burning

2327
01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 1: and just trying to run into the fire and rescue

2328
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 1: as many people as we can instead of just walking

2329
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 1: by taking a picture of a burning house. That's what

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01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 1: No Selings is. So go get that, and then there's

2331
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 1: music every week. Every week, you're putting out a song

2332
01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 1: every week. No, no, I'm saying I wish no I'm

2333
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:51,240
Speaker 1: dropping music. I'm saying every week. I'm speeding up to

2334
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 1: every week. Right now, I've dropped three songs. I've dropped

2335
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:55,280
Speaker 1: record with Snoop and Iced Tea, Snoop and Iced Tea

2336
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 1: and tie right, and then I dropped a song with

2337
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 1: Gaming Corrupt. And now the next song is with forty

2338
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: in Oh, So you're really just legendary features only here man.

2339
02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 1: For years we wanted to be a part of the

2340
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:10,800
Speaker 1: West Coast and we felt like they wasn't. So now

2341
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:14,600
Speaker 1: that the opportunity is present, I'm finally getting what was

2342
02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:18,040
Speaker 1: the Ice Tea called like? That was in person? Oh?

2343
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 1: That was amazing because Ice T is on another He's

2344
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 1: in an Iced Snoop are as advertised Ice Tea is,

2345
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean a legend on TV now, Ice Team Snoop

2346
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 1: was ours avatars. Those are not characters. There's no other

2347
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: body else. There some a lot of rappers, ninety percent

2348
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 1: of the rappers. Ice T has turned into a great

2349
02:00:38,680 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 1: Arizona citizen. Now it is out, and I think it

2350
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: was a Chandler. Ice Tea is proclaiming him now as

2351
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:48,840
Speaker 1: you should. Ice Tea is as advertised, He's exactly what

2352
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 1: it is, correct, corrupt man, corrupt, corrupt up here snoop,

2353
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 1: like snoop that Iced Tea is that those two guys

2354
02:00:56,760 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 1: are as advertised. Besides, is the shadiest one because I

2355
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 1: think you would see my favorite album. Would you say

2356
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:04,280
Speaker 1: it's the most slept on hip hop album on from

2357
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:07,120
Speaker 1: the West Coast? Ever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, fair

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02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:09,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, I wouldn't say it's the most slept on.

2359
02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 1: I would probably lead that for street gospel. I was

2360
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna say Streets is a Mother and or forty days

2361
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:20,960
Speaker 1: forty nights, four days forty nights is super nasty. But streets,

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02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:26,680
Speaker 1: I think how much the West revers street gospel. That's

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02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:30,400
Speaker 1: why like, Streets is a Mother is pretty remarkably close.

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02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:33,760
Speaker 1: But Corrupt was already a successful artist. Yeah so, but

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02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 1: street gospel sugar Free, like I don't think the world knows, Yeah,

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02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't think. I also don't think like like people

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02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:44,120
Speaker 1: understand how much of fluid sugar Free had Yeah, just

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02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:47,200
Speaker 1: on everywhere, not just not just here. But I'm saying

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02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:49,400
Speaker 1: so I think that album would be the most underrated

2370
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 1: and he's he comes as advertising. Yeah, that's for sure

2371
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 1: that that was a real guy. I saw him on

2372
02:01:53,640 --> 02:01:55,600
Speaker 1: a bitch on Alicia in Vegas. Yes, the real deal.

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02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 1: But the thing about the shadiest one is what ill

2374
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:02,680
Speaker 1: matters kids to New York. It's very much She's my

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02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 1: Probably when westat side connection was like like when bout

2376
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:12,600
Speaker 1: Down came out was my favorite. I stopt dub. He

2377
02:02:12,640 --> 02:02:14,320
Speaker 1: could out wrap anybody from l A at the time,

2378
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 1: was nasty and just his little aneurysm, skip skip connect

2379
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:22,080
Speaker 1: all that. When I hear illmatic, that's what I hear

2380
02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:26,280
Speaker 1: the shadiest, when I hear this super deep dive into

2381
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 1: true culture like Queensbridge culture and was doing ship with

2382
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:33,280
Speaker 1: like Gangstar. He was on the but before that, I

2383
02:02:33,320 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 1: was on the shady No, that was way before that.

2384
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 1: But I'm talk about the shadiest one where he dives

2385
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:42,160
Speaker 1: into LA culture probably greater than anybody ever had sonically

2386
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 1: and and also like lyrically, like the lingo he was

2387
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 1: using what he talked about. He talked about the part

2388
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 1: of the house, part, he talked about all of the

2389
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:55,320
Speaker 1: lifestyles and situations. It was like that's are illmatic, you

2390
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I and I'm sad that

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Speaker 1: other people you know, huh, I mean, I mean I've

2392
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 1: never heard that aside from you. Yeah, it's ario Madic,

2393
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 1: the way we just don't have as much sway over

2394
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:10,560
Speaker 1: the media, you know, as obviously the creators of the

2395
02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:14,760
Speaker 1: actual fucking genre as they should. But that's ario Madic. Okay,

2396
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 1: the shadiest one is ario Matic, all right. Last question

2397
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 1: two thousand and one of the Chronic two thousand and one,

2398
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 1: me too. Yeah, I mean I was fucking I barely

2399
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 1: fucking knew with Dolli styles, but I have to go

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02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 1: back and consume Doggie style and the Chronic. I heard

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02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:33,440
Speaker 1: them right, And I think two thousand and one butt

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02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:37,240
Speaker 1: revalue re replay value now, but personally for me it's

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02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:38,760
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. But when you just talk about

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02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:41,320
Speaker 1: share greatness, the Chronic is the father, No, for sure,

2405
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 1: the Chronic birth to everybody shit. But I just think, like,

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02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:46,160
Speaker 1: if I'm a listening, yeah, I'm play two thousand and one,

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02:03:46,240 --> 02:03:48,800
Speaker 1: two thousand, Yeah, all right, yo, gim malone. Go check

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Speaker 1: out the no Ceilings podcast everywhere hopefully be on YouTube soon. Yeah, Google,

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Speaker 1: Google New music is everywhere. Just go to my Spotify

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Speaker 1: page and go support and you know, shout out to us.

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Speaker 1: Seven love and this stuff. This. I haven't seen a

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Speaker 1: big gold cup this big since I was about thousands

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Speaker 1: of water cold. Oh Ship