1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't need another day or two that just like 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: check in with these teams to see, like how serious 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: this is, how close it is before I determine if 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers have a pay a shot of 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: getting Kyrie. I know they have a shot because they've 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: been talking for you know, ever since June of last year. 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: I would just say things like, if you're a Laker fan, 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: I would just say, this is this latest development that 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Kyrie has done a requesting trade. I would say it's 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: definitely good news for the Lakers, but I just don't 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: know how close that it is right now, now, right now. Okay, 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: So according to Chris Hayes, the Lakers have enough to 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: get Kyrie Irving. Can we get it done? And by we, 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean me as if I'm in the front office 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Lakers and I am not um. 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Sit back, relax. It is an inside the NBA trade 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: deadline addition of naked gotta pay some bills will be 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: back in just a few moments. It's the greatest. And 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: then the taming can make your Cheppion. They carry chappion 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: is to be a CHAMPI on the champion. They carry 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Cheppion Chappi and they carry Chappi and they carry Chappi. Hey, everybody, 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: welcome to the Carrey Champion Show. This is an emergency podcast. 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: I repeat an emergency pod, breaking news, breaking news. It 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: is Friday as we record this, so by the time 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: you hear this on Monday, things could have changed. But 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: I'm going to try to keep it as a loose 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: as possible so you guys can understand what's happening in 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: the NBA contextually. Friday morning, I wake up, I get 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: a call from my producer. She's like, are we recording today? 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I've reached out to a friend. 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: I'll see what happens. My friend is Chris Haynes. He 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: is UM a sideline reporter for T n T. He's 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: an NBA insider. I worked with him at ESPN. You've 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: seen him before, You've read his work. He was at 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Yahoo Sporting. Now he is at T and T and 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report. He also most recently came out with a 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: new podcast. We'll get into that in just a second. 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: But I called him just to talk about the trade deadline. Um, 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: there are all these reports of what my favorite team 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: was going to do. You guys know, I love the Lakers, 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: so I wanted him to break it all down. However, 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: in the midst of him between him confirming that he 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: do the podcast and US actually recording one, Kyrie Irving 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: requested a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. It sent the 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: internet ablaze. It sent the NBA world ablaze. It was 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: a non non non issue for so many people, um 47 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: and excuse me check that it was a huge issue 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: for so many people, um and including the Lakers, because 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: the Lakers are looking for a really bipowered player. We 50 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: need a shooter. The messages won a championship. Now when 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: it now. As you will know, Kyrie and Lebron lay 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: together in Cleveland. As you will know, Kyrie did not, 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: at the very end enjoy playing with Lebron. Kyrie then 54 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: goes to Boston, didn't work out there. He goes to Brooklyn. 55 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: They were in the news every other day, starting with 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: the vaccine because Kyrie didn't want to good a vaccine. 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: He held out. After that, he had been posting some 58 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: issues in regards to Jewish people and black people being 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: the true. I look, I don't even know what he 60 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: was posting. If I'm being honest, I read it. I 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: can't even digest it. But all I know is that 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: Jewish people were offended, and he ended up getting suspended 63 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: by the Brooklyn Nets, and he had to do a 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: series of apologies that I felt, at one point got 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: to be ridiculous. Yes, he should have apologized once because 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: he was so dug in he had posted something that 67 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: was factually incorrect and quite frankly offensive, I understand. To 68 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Jewish people. However, however, he had apologized and it should 69 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: have been done, but they made him apologize over and 70 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: over again, and my my thought process changed. I was like, 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm riding with, Kyrie. Now you made 72 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: this black man apologize, and now you're trying to take 73 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: his dignity away. Initially I thought, Kyrie, if you don't 74 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: know what you're posting, perhaps you shouldn't post it, or 75 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: you don't have to post something to show what you're 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: learning if you really don't know the origins of it 77 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: are or what it's about. It was a movie that 78 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: you can steel friend on Amazon, by the way, about 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: black Israelites, and I don't know much of the particulars. 80 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: I do know that I did not agree with all 81 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: of the content that that was being passed around regarding 82 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: said movie, and when Kyrie was asked about it, he 83 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: was very defiant, like, come on, I'm not promoting anything. 84 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: Leave me alone. I could post what I want to post. 85 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: So in real time, Kyrie learned that the very same 86 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: people who loved you when you did not want to 87 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: get a vaccine. And by those people, I mean there 88 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: were a lot of folks calling him a hero who 89 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: didn't look like us. They were protesting outside of um 90 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: Barclay saying we love Kyrie who because he didn't want 91 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: to get a vaccine, and we love Kyrie and he's 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: this and he's that. Those same people were also protesting 93 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: after he made that post that made so many people upset, 94 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: saying they want Kyrie out of the Barclays, they want 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: him out of Brooklyn. They didn't want him to be 96 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: a player anymore. And he went from loved to hate it. 97 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: He went from the guy who really was a hero. 98 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: You know, I remember politicians, in particular Republican politicians were 99 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: calling him a hero because he didn't want to get 100 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: the vaccine to being called names by those same Republican politicians. Right, 101 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: it's quick. Life comes at you fast. But so many 102 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: people started to change their mind because we did not 103 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: and by so many people, I mean the black folks 104 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: me culturally, we didn't like the way that they were 105 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: the appearance of a black man apologizing over and over 106 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: and over and over and over and over again. He 107 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: said sorry, Okay, will say another sorry. Right now. He 108 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: has to meet a list of obligations. Come on, man, 109 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: let's get back to the business of basketball. This is 110 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: getting out of him. Since then, he's been quiet. He 111 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: paid for his punishment in the sense of he was fined, 112 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: he apologized, he had to sit out, he did what 113 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: he had to do, He did all the work. He 114 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: then comes out last week, as we find out, and 115 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: he says, guess what, I still want an extension here. So, 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: of course, fast forward to today, present day Friday, when 117 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: the news breaks that he wants out. He's requested a 118 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: trade and if he doesn't get traded before the deadline 119 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: of February nine, he's leaving. During free agency, we were like, wait, ha, ha, 120 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: what happened. I'm gonna tell you what happened. We're able 121 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: to call my guy, Chris Haynes in as I talked 122 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: about NBA Insider, He's talked to the Kyrie camp He's 123 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: had conversations with the Lakers front office. He knows what 124 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: these teams are trying to do. This is the frenzied 125 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: time of year where people are trying to figure out 126 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: who will go where, and Kyrie has put his name 127 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 1: into this trade deadline and he is a big fish. 128 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: There were no big fish requesting trades. We haven't seen 129 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: something like this in a minute. The last time we 130 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: had this frenzied type of atmosphere was when we were 131 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure out in my mind where Lebron was going, 132 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: which I knew was in l A But whatever, It's 133 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: a frenzied atmosphere. What's going to happen Kevin Durant sweepstakes? 134 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: Where's Kevin Durant gonna go? Is he staying with the 135 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: Warriors or he's going elsewhere? Frenzied behavior, and that's what 136 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: you're feeling right now. It's palpable. Where will Kyrie go? 137 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: True enough, by the time this podcast airs on Monday, 138 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Kyrie could be a Laker or he could still be 139 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: with the Brooklyn Nets with the pending trade happening again. 140 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: The deadline is next Thursday, y'all. So by the time 141 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: you're listening to this. If Kyrie hasn't made up his mind, 142 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: we still got three or four days to twist and 143 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: the wind to find now if he will be dealt 144 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: by the Brooklyn Nets. As you will hear on this podcast, 145 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: here are the following things that you will hear. You 146 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: will hear why it makes sense for him to be 147 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: a Laker, or if in fact the Lakers have enough 148 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: to get Kyrie in terms of assets to get Kyrie. 149 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: He will hear how we got to this point, How 150 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: we landed on Kyrie just last week saying he wants 151 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: to stay in Brooklyn now requesting a trade. How do 152 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: we get here. We don't get into the history of 153 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: his up and down relationship, the emotional highs and lows 154 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: that he's had with this organization. But we do get 155 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: into um the fact that Kyrie is mercurial. I hear 156 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: people saying he's toxic. I hear people saying, I wouldn't 157 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: want to mow my team. All of you people are ridiculous. 158 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: That means you people don't want to win a chip. 159 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: That's what that means. Kyrie um has had a relationship 160 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: with Lebron. We get into that, We get into the 161 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: fact that. Kyrie has also said he was young when 162 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: he wanted out of Cleveland and if he had to 163 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: do it over again, he would mind playing with the 164 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: Brown again. All of this makes sense. We get into 165 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: all of the particulars um I. Also, if you're a 166 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: Clippers fan, you don't want to hear this because I'm 167 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: trash talking to Clippers up and down. I have a 168 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: theory about them and you can enjoy that. If you're 169 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: a Laker fan, this might be just a Laker pod 170 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: for Laker podded episode uh for today. So sit back, relax, 171 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: get the education, start the debate. Where will Kyrie Irving Land? 172 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: Here is Chris Haynes with his insider information. Hope you 173 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: all enjoy this edition of Naked You guys, we have 174 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: a special, a special guest on the show. Um as 175 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: we as we tried to basically say, hey, can you 176 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: come on the show, and as we as in me, 177 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: Chris Haynes does us a solid and says yes, that's 178 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: early this morning on Friday. Little do we know, a 179 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: few hours after our conversation, Kyrie with set the trade 180 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: deadline World on fire. You know, Chris Haynes, I will 181 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: work with him at ESPN. He's now at t n 182 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: T and Bleacher Report. Uh, he's an NBA insider, a 183 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: senior reporter on the sidelines for t NT. He knows all. 184 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: So talk to me about NBA trade deadline. I was 185 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: just asking for the landscape. But now that we know, 186 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: as of this morning or this afternoon, wherever you live, 187 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: Kyrie requested a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. What does 188 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: that mean for the NBA trade deadline and free agency? Well, ultimately, 189 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: now he's the top dog um in the trade deadline, 190 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, stratosphere. Right now, he's going to be the dovadog. Uh. 191 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Obviously there's a lot that goes with acquiring or even 192 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, inquiring about Kyrie Irvin. But he's a dynamic talent. 193 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: And lets let me give you some backgrowl if I 194 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: could always Kyria and how we got here. So last 195 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: week I reported and I had a story with Setilia Irvin, 196 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: who is kyrie stepmother, and but she also she also 197 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: serves as his agent. So she went on the record 198 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: with me last week stating how she would like to 199 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: get an extension done, how Kyrie wants to be a 200 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: member of the Brooklyn Nets for the long term and 201 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: as she said, the ball is in the next court. 202 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: To get something done, get something reasonable done, reasonably done. 203 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: And so up until that point, the Nets were hesitant 204 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: on talking or even offering any type of an extension. 205 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: So since she went public with me on that last week, 206 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: over the last few days, they started to engage and 207 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: the Nets changed with an offer. But and I and 208 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: I just reported this recently, but the offer that they 209 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: came with was a contract that was tied to the 210 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: Nets winning the championship, and Kyrie and his camp felt 211 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: so insulted by that where that's what led to him 212 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: requesting the trade. And um I was told that even 213 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: if the Nets changed us right now and offered a 214 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: full max max slot salary, he would return it down. 215 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: He wants out. It's got that serious. And this was 216 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: something that we've seen coming. I thought, I thought it 217 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: would be a couple more days until we got to 218 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: this point. I didn't think it would be today. But 219 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: you kind of saw the writing on the wall when 220 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: she when she came out publicly last week and said, 221 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: the ball is in the next court. And so this 222 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: is where we this is where we are now. Well, 223 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: we're at six days before the trade deadline. Six days 224 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: before the trade deadline, Kyrie Irving says, I want to 225 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: be traded from the Brooklyn Nets. According to Chris Haynes 226 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: um NBA Insider, the situation is really simple, folks. Uh, 227 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Kyrie was not liking what, in fact Brooklyn was offering 228 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: in terms of an extension which was tied to a championship. 229 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: That felt insulting. Why would that based on what you 230 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: know when you're reporting, why would that feel insulting to Kyrie? Well, 231 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: listen that that is first of all, I mean it's 232 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: in the center base contract, which means that a certain 233 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: amount of his salary was what's going to be guaranteed 234 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: if they want a championship. And so for a player 235 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: of Kyrie's Klumburg, you know, he's a you know, when 236 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: all things being said, if everything is equal, you know, 237 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: he's a he's a max player. You know, he's one 238 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: of the top fifteen players we have in this league. 239 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: And yes, you know, Kyrie has done some things and 240 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: saying some things that has got them in trouble throughout 241 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: his career. But he felt like, you know, especially at 242 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: this time, you know, let's let's talk about why. Now, obviously, 243 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: the trade of thatline of February night, but time and 244 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant has been out. And so while Kevin Durant 245 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: has been out, Kyrie Irvan has had to shoulder the 246 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: low offensively. And so it's it's Tavi came in. It 247 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: told him his body. You don't know when Katie is 248 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: going to come back, and so that the nets are 249 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: asking a lot of him, and so in return, you know, 250 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: Kyrie has been a model citizen ever since he came 251 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: back from that suspension, and you know he wants security. 252 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: He's putting his body on the line. The Nests are 253 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: asking more of him because he's the top dog with 254 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: Katie being out, so he wants some security. So you know, 255 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: you really don't hear about instead of based contracts by 256 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: two players of his caliber. But again, if you're looking 257 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: after the Nest standpoint, you will understand how to why 258 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: they're taking that type of approach. But I to a 259 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: championship where a bulk of his salary is guarantee if 260 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: they win a championship. That pretty much is unheard of 261 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: for a player of his caliber. Okay, fair, Now, on 262 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: the other hand, this is what you're going to hear 263 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: in correct me, if I'm wrong. They offer James hard 264 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving extensions and the only 265 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: person who took it was Katie. He asked her, no, yes, 266 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: Katie took it. Correct for your extension. Believe so now 267 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: he we are, James Harden is no longer there. They 268 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: have had their issues with Kyrie. Well reported. He's put 269 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: his head down and did his job. He said he 270 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: wanted to stay there, but now he feels away. Enough 271 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: is enough? Is this all a part of the what 272 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: I thought was okay, yes, apologized and then apologize again, 273 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: and then apologize some more. But then now and then 274 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: now it's like, and then guess what if you do 275 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: want to stay here? Here are some other things? Is 276 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: this Kyrie is basically saying, after it's all said and done, 277 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: I apologize. I did all the things and at all 278 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: the requirements. Uh. Those are two different issues in my opinion, 279 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: but they're starting to be complated, and he's just tired 280 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: of bending over backwards to please an organization when he 281 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: knows he's a max player. Is that what we're dealing 282 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: with here in your opinion? No, I definitely think you 283 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: could say that. I mean, I just think you know, 284 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: he ultimately felt insulted. You know, he he wanted to 285 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: get an extension done. He wants to stay with the 286 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets and so and he's been up again a 287 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: model citizen for the Brooklyn Nets since returning, and he's 288 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: being asked to shoulder a load, a heavy load with 289 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: KD being out, and all he's asking for is security. 290 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: And again I'm not I'm not coming here acting like 291 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't understand where the brooklyn Nets are coming from. 292 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: But when when you start to talk about, you know, 293 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: being tied to a championship where money is guaranteed if 294 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: you win a title, that's that's unheard of for a 295 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: players caliber. So yes, I mean, and it's hard not 296 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: to look at everything that he has been through with 297 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets and and a lot of a lot 298 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: of it is warranted, you know, based off of the 299 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: things that he's done. But you know, it's hard to 300 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: not think about everything in his totality and come to 301 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: the conclusion that, man, all this is building up and 302 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: this is just one more thing that Kyyrie shows like 303 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: he has to deal with and he wants out. And 304 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: just the fact that he's telling and that that has 305 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: that even if you don't Um out door free agency, 306 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: he wants out. That's that's showing you, like how adamant 307 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: he needs about this. He's just done now. Critics will 308 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: say Kyrie Um is a player that you can't really 309 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: count on his last few teams, he has stayed no 310 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: more than a season. This might be a season or two. Right? 311 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Is that fair? He was in Boston, I went out, 312 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: comes to Brooklyn. It's great quiet, they do what they 313 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: can do. A lot of drama, he asked out. He 314 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: wants in. It's been it seems as if he seems 315 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: like a fickle player. How could an organization and and 316 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: no organization in particular, but how can an organization invest 317 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: in him? High risk, high reward player It appears to be. Yeah, 318 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: I mean that's that is that is a tough conundrum. 319 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: And and this is you know, this is what Kyrie 320 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: finds himself in. And you know, just look at his 321 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: track record, looking at his history, and it seems like 322 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: these things continue to repeat themselves. But what I will 323 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: say is that those things are you know, all of 324 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: his past transgressions, they've caused him to caused him to 325 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: be a player where a handful of teams are interested, 326 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: opposed to the entire league, and a player of his caliber, 327 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: the entire league is supposed to be calling, banging at 328 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: the Brooklynness door, trying to see if they can get 329 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: in the mix. And it's a handful of teams and so, 330 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: but all you need is one team, you know, all 331 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: you need is one team to pull the trigger to 332 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: give you the type of deal or give you a 333 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: type of role that you need. And the good thing 334 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: about it for Kyrie, the teams that are calling, our 335 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: teams that are trying to win the championship. These aren't 336 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: bottom feeder teams. These are teams that have good structure, 337 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: a good foundation, and so he would he would they 338 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: look at him as being a missing piece, and so 339 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: it's a good situation to be in. But yes, you know, 340 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: if this was any other star player that that does 341 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: this without you know, the ask transgressions they're they're getting, 342 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: They're getting calls from everybody bought it around the league 343 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: opposed to a half full Yeah. Okay, So we have 344 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: a few teams that are who really want Kyrie, are 345 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: willing to do the high risk for high reward because 346 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: they want to win. Now, they don't want to win yesterday. 347 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: What is Kyrie looking for? Is he looking what type 348 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: of deal would he take at this moment? Is he 349 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: desperate just to gett out or does he want his 350 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: money and his years? Well, you know, I couldn't say, 351 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't say money is not an issue 352 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: at all, But definitely he wants he wants security. I 353 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: don't I don't think he didn't want to play out. 354 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: He didn't want to play out this year, um just 355 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: not knowing hit his his financial status, especially with the 356 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. But what he wants? You know, I think 357 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: what a lot of these teams have to offer a structure. 358 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean he touched on the Kerry. These are three 359 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: superstar players the last few years who have requested a 360 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: trade out of the Brooklyn Nets. You know, Katy resented 361 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: that trade in the off season, came back, but now 362 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, the domino is gonna victually fall back on him. 363 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: What is he going to do? How is he going 364 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: to feel the brook of Let's have them locked up 365 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: for another three years. But it's this is gonna be 366 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: a domino effect right here. And I think I think 367 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: with these teams, Kyris is looking for structure, a sound foundation, 368 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: and he's going to have that with these other teams. 369 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: I will be very surprised if she Kyrie is still 370 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: a member of the next pass to theirline. Okay, we 371 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: gotta pay some bills, as you will know. Fast forward 372 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: to hit that button that fifteen fifteen fifteen, uh and 373 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: when we come back, Chris Haynes gets into the nit 374 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: in the grid of what's going on with Kyrie and 375 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: the perklyn Nets. Hope you're in joying this edition of Naked. 376 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: Every champion and carry champions, to be a champio of 377 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: Champion and carry Champion and carry chapio a champion and 378 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: carry Champion and carry Champion sports. And then the team 379 00:20:54,400 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: making Naked Cheppion, they carrie CHEPPIONI a Cheppion. They carry 380 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: Cheppion Chepi and they care with Cheppi and they care. 381 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: Thank you for sticking with us. This edition of Naked 382 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: is really good. We're getting some juicy information and like 383 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: I said, the hope is by the time you're listening 384 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: to this, something significant has happened for my Lakers. Take 385 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: a listen. It's Chris Haynes. Okay, let's go to my 386 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: own personal interests and what everyone is talking about. Lebron 387 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: sends out a tweet with eyes and and a King hat, 388 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: and I'm like, and I immediately replied, don't play with us. 389 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: Don't play with us, because I'll take Kyrie and all 390 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: of his issues if that means a chip. I'm that 391 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: kind of thing, right, And I do believe the Laker 392 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: nation feels that way. Urban Urban Magic Johnson himself, I'd 393 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: like to see Kyrie with a Laker. We all would 394 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: like to see it. The feasibility of that really happening. 395 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: I don't believe the Lakers have enough assets for the perclonets. 396 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: I think they do. I think they do. You know 397 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: you have those you have those two first round picks 398 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: that they've Yeah, they did not waiver from Alician, not 399 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: even one of them. You know, when they were talks 400 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: in pressure about going after Indiana's duo of Miles Turner 401 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: and Buddy Hill, they didn't waiver. They kept waiting. I 402 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: remember I was talking to brob Pelinka months ago and 403 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: he was like, we're waiting for that big fish. We're 404 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: waiting for that big fish. I don't think many saw 405 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: this coming into this past week, but yeah, they have enough. 406 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean it may it may take a third team 407 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: to get involved, but I believe they do have enough. 408 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the the the value, you know, Kyrie's value 409 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: um market value is not what it was, and so 410 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: I think the Brooklyn Nets have to get something in 411 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: return because the threat of Kyrie saying he's going to 412 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: leave in free agency, it's not necessarily a threat um 413 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: to the next that he's going to be gone, but 414 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: it's the threat that he can be gone. And they 415 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: don't get anything in return, correct, So that's why they 416 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: have to take this trade there very seriously, like why 417 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: keep him around? And they know how mercurial he is, 418 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: and why keep him around if they get nothing in return? 419 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Get whatever you can right now? Who can give me whatever? Now, 420 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: let's talk about the morality of that organization. Would they 421 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: not trade him to the Lakership because he wants to 422 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: go there? Or do you think they have more incentive 423 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: to send him somewhere he wants to go? Well, no, 424 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they haven't anywhere he has to go. 425 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: They have to get the right deal, that's all that matters. 426 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: And plus you don't want to see him Kyrie over 427 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: to a team media conference. Sure, you don't want you know, 428 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: they don't want to. Yeah, and they've already done that 429 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: with Philly and the James had he see Yeah, and 430 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: so they I'm trying to do that. Yeah, and I 431 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: think he would be sent back west. And that that's why, 432 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, look at the Dallas mavericks Um, you look 433 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: at the phoenix size of Los Angeles lers. For sure, 434 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: the Lakers have been a team that's been talking with 435 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: the brook that that doesn't feel like for about a 436 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: year already about this about Kyrie. So it just seems 437 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: like this is the closest, the closest we've been chest 438 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: seeing the potential, you know, seeing potentially Tyree Dot in 439 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: a liquor's uniform. So here's my thought process. The reason 440 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: why they wouldn't want to do it because perhaps in 441 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: their mind they don't want to meet him in the finals, 442 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: but they would have to beat they'd have to beat 443 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: a long way away look at me with Dreamy. But 444 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: but that's why, that's why the contract offer being tied 445 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: to a chair hap ship. That's why it's so insulting 446 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: because you know, you know, I talked to a lot 447 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: of players, you know, in that in that locker room. 448 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: They don't believe that right now, how they're a symbol 449 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: that they're a championship. You know, there's some pieces that 450 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: need to be out Ben Simmons, namely, what's his usual 451 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: question mark? Ye, they'd have to get past other teams 452 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: in the East to even get to that level. And 453 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: are they better than other teams in the East? Are 454 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: they better than the Celtics? Are they better than exactly? 455 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: So that's what that's why, that's why it makes it 456 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 1: soul insulting that that the Ads an a layer to it. Okay, 457 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: so before Kyrie came in and blew up a free 458 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: agency or excuse me, NBAH trade deadline, I would like 459 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: to talk about what the Lakers were thinking they were 460 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: going to do. What are the reports of this Zach 461 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: Levine and sin Lonzo light skin regime? Coming back to 462 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: what is the report? I didn't want the light skins, 463 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: but I was that a fair deal in your in 464 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: your opinion when they were saying this could be what 465 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: it looks like? Uh with the team like as constructor 466 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, with the Lakers, No, So I was 467 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: always told they were going to make a letter move 468 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: and the you know what we spt hearing is you 469 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: know they're knocking on the Detroit Pistons door about um Bogdanovitch, 470 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: you know that sniper shooter, you know parents and with 471 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: the Pistons right now, adding a quality shooter is a 472 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: premium right now. The Detroit Yeah, we're we're hearing that. 473 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Then you know they won't let him go for at 474 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: least a unprotected first round pick. But the Lakers have 475 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: just been trying to hold steady. Rob polgo was called man. 476 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: I've talked to pretty much every single Simulinity and Rob 477 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: Polikas has called them at least once, just trying to 478 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: figure out what they're trying to do. Who's available. So 479 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: he's doing his job. I know Plinkett gets a lot 480 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: of flak. People said he's just sitting on and shipping 481 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: on his ass, But he's doing his job. I think 482 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: right now, you know, I would have thought if this 483 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: Kyrie didn't come into play, you know, I think you're 484 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: looking at potential Malik Beasley move, you know, bringing it 485 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: because they need to shoot Malik Beasley. But Danovitch, you 486 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: know guys like that, So I know a guy I 487 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: know players like that probably wouldn't have made the splash 488 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: that Laker fans are hoping for. But it definitely would 489 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: have been a good complimentary piece. And I like the 490 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: addition to I think he's, you know, a really good 491 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: key special. I think he could see he can fit 492 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: right in. I don't know you, but what I've seen 493 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: this car makes sense. We need some we need fundamentals, 494 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's looking good and he's 495 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: you need we need some. And I act like I'm 496 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: in the front office. I everyone knows I am a 497 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: dire like your fan. I do not care. I will 498 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: talk about it till I'm blow in the face, but 499 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: I am reasonable. I didn't see us doing much, and 500 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: I didn't like the struggle against the Knicks, but I 501 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: know the Knicks got up to play. Is when I'm like, 502 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. Whatever is happening out there is ridiculous. 503 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: Um So, so you what you have said twice, maybe 504 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: even three times. We don't like Roberlika. He's trending the 505 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: other day, but you say he's doing his due diligence. 506 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: You believe that he has been doing the work. Yeah 507 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: your name, Yeah, yeah, I mean the results that doesn't 508 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: always tell the you know, the truth, the whole truth. 509 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: You know it takes it always takes two teams to 510 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: get a deal done, but he's definitely Cavis And yeah, 511 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: that's why you hear. That's why you hear. You know 512 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: a lot of Laker rumors are reports getting out because 513 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's making a lot of calls and talking 514 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: to a lot of people, and so a lot of times, 515 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: a lot of teams kind of know a little bit 516 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: of what the Lakers are trying to do, and that's 517 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: how that stuff leads. Well, then here's my other question, 518 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: because I don't believe everyone's off of him right. The 519 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: whole tar the Rosen Russell Westbrook situation just made everybody upset. 520 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: It was like, what is going on? How dare you 521 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: want to get that? It was? And and and everyone's 522 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: like I wanted tomar that was and everyone's blaming Rob. 523 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't believe that that it was just Rob's decision. 524 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: But I think Rob made a huge mistake and I 525 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: don't Also, I will say this, I don't think Tomorrow 526 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: would have played as well home for whatever reasons. I 527 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: just don't believe he would have. I think it would 528 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: have been a different scenario. Well, who knows, I could 529 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: be wrong. Um, I just feel like playing at home. 530 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: There are a lot of different things that come into play, 531 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: and when you play free, um, it's it's good. And 532 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: he fit into assistant that really works for him. I 533 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: think Kyrie has played with Lebron before. He knows what 534 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: it comes to, what it takes. I think he appreciates 535 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: it more than anybody he ever played with before. I 536 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: do believe that after spending his time looking to hang 537 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: out with others, he realized, come back home because it 538 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: feels good, you know what I mean? Like you, you 539 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: don't know what's going, what's missing until it's gone. Right. Then, 540 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: what did he say? What did he say? He said 541 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: he made a mistake and requesting to trade out of Cleveland. 542 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: He said that he was y'all and he didn't appreciate 543 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: what he had at that time. And you know, can 544 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: we trust so material? Can we trust that a pot 545 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: of some some stage on in crypto because he's mad 546 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: at Lebron one day, Like, can't we trust that? I 547 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: want Kyrie, but I don't trust his mood swings. I 548 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 1: don't trust his mood swings that I heal one day 549 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: it's like it's a summer soulstice and he doesn't want 550 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: to play now. Mind you, this was before I was 551 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: talking so bad about him, and I'm standing on the 552 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: record on this same very podcast saying I don't want him. 553 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't want him. Here here I am a year later, 554 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: Like looks good to me, That's all I'm this. Yeah, yeah, 555 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm just as smecial. Yeah. I think you can not 556 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: trust them but still want him. And I think that's 557 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot of liquor fans find themselves in, Like, IM 558 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: don't trust I don't trust Kyrie. Bring him over? Wait 559 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: a second, bring him over? Who who's single? Who has 560 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: not dealt with that? If not tweeve hours a day, 561 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: seven days a week. You're like, trust her, but I'm 562 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: a data still her, but I don't trust her? Ask him? 563 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's the same relationship that he's not. How dude, 564 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: you like, you ready to risk it all for but 565 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be a disaster, but you're still 566 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: gonna do it. Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but it 567 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: makes complete sense, okay in your opinion, And not that 568 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: you can predict or that you know, But do you 569 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: think the Lakers in and the next can get a 570 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: deal done? And Russell goes over there and plays and 571 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: reunites with Russell, plays with Kevin Durant. They hate each other, 572 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: So there's that doesn't even seem like a feasibility right there. 573 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: Not friends anymore. I think they know they're they're cool. 574 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: I think they can I think they can't say it 575 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: together like God, sure I would need I wouldn't need 576 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: another day or tune that, just like check in with 577 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: these teams to see, like how serious this is, how 578 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: close it is before I determine if I think the 579 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Lakers have a shot of getting Kyrie. I know they 580 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: have a shot because they've been talking for you know, 581 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: ever since June of last year. I would just say 582 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: things like, if you're a Laker fan, I would just say, 583 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: this is be this this latest development that Kyrie has 584 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: done a request and trade. I would say, it's definitely 585 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: good news for the Lakers. But I just don't know 586 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: how close that it is right now? Yeah, how close 587 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: it is, how it's feasible. But can we get there? 588 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: It's a question, um I I I ask you, where 589 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: else does he go? What other what other possibility, what 590 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: other team in the league? Perhaps out West has enough assets, uh, 591 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: and it's more attractive for the Brooklyn Nets. What's the 592 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: competition for the Lakers because you said there are only 593 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: a few teams ready to Yeah, there there, there's the 594 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: asset part and then there it's just like the teams 595 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: that have the foundation in place to bring on Kyrie. 596 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: When I mean foundation, just have the leadership, you know, 597 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: in the organization. So Dallas Mavericks, the Phoenix Suze, I'm 598 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: one team that I'm kind to I'm kind of I 599 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: need to check in on. Is the Miami Heat. I 600 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: know that's in the East, but they were a rumored 601 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: to have some level of interest back in June with Kyrie. 602 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: I want to see have have things changed since then? 603 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: It and Carl Lowry has not not been playing well 604 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: over there in Miami. I know they're trying to look 605 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: at ways of upgrading that point guard position. But as 606 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: a right now concrete all we know is the Lakers, Mavericks, 607 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: and the Phoenix Suns. But I definitely expect not to change. 608 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: I expect a few more teams to get out of 609 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: in and that's where I got it, you know, I 610 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: have to get on those phones and make those calls 611 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: and see what's real. And that's another team that you 612 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: point out good point by Chris Haynes Here, Miami is 613 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: always trying to be in the conversation. They really are. 614 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: It's such a he's such a competitor. He's not like 615 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: let's just wait, He's like, let's just do it, let's go. 616 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: But Jordan tells the best stories of how that man 617 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: hawked him and chased him down on a Hawaiian vacation 618 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: talking about do you want to come play for us? 619 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: And that right said, the right of my sad boy 620 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: stopped believing me. Note under my door bind me and 621 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: my wife are on deac, you know what I mean. Um, 622 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: So a lot of times, a lot of times Pat 623 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: does things out of spite, just to make sure, for sure, 624 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: for sure. And that's how I feel like a lot 625 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: of the people in the league are with the Lakers, 626 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: like they love to see us not doing well. But 627 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: also at the same time, it's good for the league 628 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: to have the Lakers doing well. It's good for the 629 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: league to have Lebron doing well. Like this is a business. 630 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: Um but who knows. With that being said, if you 631 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: had to make a prediction, we're fast forwarding to the 632 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: trade deadline is February seventh. That's Tuesday, correct, February the 633 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: night February night, Thursday. So we have a lot of time, 634 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: we have we have a lot of time. Kyrie could 635 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: change his mind. Kyrie could be like, never mind, I 636 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: like it here, we got the right work. Well, hold 637 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: on one thing about Kyrie. He sticks to his guns. 638 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: So you don't think he'll change his mind. This is 639 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: his decision. I don't see Kyrie no good of good 640 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: of worse. Kylie sticks to his guns. And so this 641 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: was a moment. This was a move that they had planned, like, 642 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: they had steps in place. If the Nets didn't come 643 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: back with an extension, or if they didn't come back 644 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: with a reasonable extension, this was their next play. They 645 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: were prepared for this this, So this is not something 646 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: like off the whim like. This was a premeditated plan 647 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: of attack. And there by the Nets they said, we're 648 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna offer him this. We know how he is nine 649 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: times out of ten, or maybe eight times out of ten, 650 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: he's not going to accept this. We'll move on to 651 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: the next phase. Well, i'm speaking on kyrie step plan. 652 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: His plan was. If they didn't do this, you know, 653 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not speaking on the nets um, but 654 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: I think the Nets obviously knew that Kyrie would act 655 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: a certain way when they presented the offer the way 656 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: that they did, with the stipulations that they had. I 657 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: don't know that they expected a trade request. I can't. 658 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: I can't tell you that, but they definitely knew that 659 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: he was He wasn't going up, he wasn't gonna like it. 660 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: And maybe they also thought here and maybe they also 661 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: thought that with everything that Kyrie has been through, that 662 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: he will feel obbergated to play the season out to 663 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: show everybody he can go off, you know, the majority 664 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: of season without any controversy. Maybe I felt that, but 665 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: this is you know, and he he said, sorry, God, 666 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: damn it, he's my friend. He's sorry times trying to 667 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: take that man's dignity. I'm not with it. And this 668 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: is why he's more. I'm much more empathetic towards Kyrie 669 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: after what he went through. First I was like, Kyrie, 670 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: chill out, don't dig in your heels. But we are 671 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: also allowed to change our opinions, much like Kyrie. And 672 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: then after I saw him apollo and then apologize again, 673 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: I was like, enough with it, the stipulations, you know 674 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And this is separate. This is separate 675 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: from all of that. This is business. This is this 676 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: is business. Don't don't conflate the two issues. This is business. 677 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: And people are like, oh, I don't want Kyrie's toxic, 678 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: and I'm like, shut up, we want to win something. 679 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: Pass me to rock. You might want to hear that 680 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: right now, your friends ridiculous. Other people's telling you. We're 681 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: still the other people telling y'all never just draft, don't talent. 682 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: We drafted Kobe, we drafted Magic. But yes, you drafted. 683 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: We built. He belonged to us. And by the way, 684 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: players don't stay with teams anymore. We tried to do 685 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: that with Alonso. He wasn't ready, his father, his head, mentally, 686 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: he wasn't ready. That's why I said playing at home 687 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: is a huge responsibility. This is my thought process on 688 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: these players who come from l A and they play here. 689 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 1: You look at Russ Russe is already on the clip anyway, 690 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: but on the cliff anyway. But playing in front of 691 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: your hometown and not doing well really does and something 692 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: in your mind that you wouldn't even know, like I 693 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: could even imagine, right and dealing with what he was having, 694 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: what he has to deal with or what he had 695 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: to deal with, saying on top of on top of 696 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: player at home and player with Lebron like that brings 697 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: it play it out. Nope, not just playing at home, 698 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: playing at home, playing for the Lakers and playing with Lebron. 699 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: Every champion and carry Champion is to be a Champion 700 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: of Champion and carry Chappion and carry Chapion the Champion 701 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: and carry Chappion and carry Chappion and sports, and then 702 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: the taming connect it. Every Champion, they carry chappions to 703 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: be a champion, the Champion, they carry Champion, Champion, they 704 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: carry Champion, they carry Chappion Sports, and then the taming 705 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: can make it war. It's a pressure, It's an expectation. 706 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: It is it is h it is a responsibility that 707 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: you putting yourself. If not an obligation, and if you 708 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: aren't mentally built for this, or if your game isn't right, 709 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: if you can't if you want to be dug in 710 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of these players are, and I don't 711 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: need to change my game or fine, you see what happens, 712 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: and so I I don't. I don't believe it. It 713 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: sounds crazy. I'm not a believer of people who are 714 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: born and raised here playing here, Like I just I 715 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: feel there's something about it. I just I just I 716 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: the track record. I can't think of a player born 717 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: and raised here in Los Angeles playing for the Lakers 718 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: that has done well, Which is why I believe Paul 719 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: George didn't go to the Lakers, which is why I 720 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: believe Kyrie, like Kauai didn't go to the Lakers of 721 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: not wanting to play with Lebron. I under I think 722 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: they understand it, and they've been able to sit there. 723 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: If they were with the Lakers, they couldn't sit under that. 724 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: No pressure, no chip guideline. Right, there is not any 725 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: pressure on the Clippers. No pressure on Kauai. He already 726 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: did it for Toronto. He didn't need it, No pressure 727 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: on Paul. The billboards that they put up, all the 728 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: expectations great, but there's still no real pressure. Am I wrong? 729 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: Like the Clippers is not like y'all gotta win now, 730 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: y'all got these guys, y'all gotta Do you feel that way? 731 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: That's an interesting observation, Carrec I don't. I don't know. 732 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that because now you're asking 733 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: me the say, if you're asking me if Kauai or 734 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: Paul yours we're too intimidated to play under the bright 735 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: light for the Los Angeles Lakers. I don't know that 736 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: I can say that. I can't. I can't say that 737 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: Kauai of all people like I definitely I don't think 738 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: Kauai cares about the pressure. But there is a reason 739 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: why he didn't choose the Lakers. There's something more to 740 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: it than what we're exploring. Why wouldn't he go to 741 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: the Lakers? He didn't want to play with one? Perhaps 742 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, don't you know? But 743 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: you okay, Let's let's flip this on another side. Why 744 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: not go play for the Clippers because it's j V 745 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: because because there is that's the problem with you, Laker. Yeah, 746 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: I think the Lakers on the one out there we 747 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: are Why do you Why would why the Clippers need 748 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: to be in Orange County, perhaps in San Diego, just 749 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: like the Chargers can't even make any headway. It's like 750 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: that you still call them the San Diego Chargers when 751 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: they really are the Los Angeles Chargers. The Rams thing 752 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: and this is really Raiders territory. If we're keeping in 753 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: a bug like it was the Raiders house. It was 754 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: the Raiders Airbnb when they came to play the Rams. 755 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: If we're being on and so my point being is 756 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: that go find a solid fan base where you can 757 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: build up elsewhere and people believe in you. It doesn't 758 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: make any sense to me, like why are you sharing 759 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: an arena with a team that has seventeen chips and 760 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: you don't have any area they're building. That's great, Go 761 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: ahead and take all your regular seats and wins. Go 762 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: ahead and take all your regular season wins, and y'all 763 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: be y'all being the house that tech bo right. Rather, 764 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna have me strange, just just me. No, no, no, no, no. 765 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: No one's listening. You're friends. No one's listening. By the way, 766 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm tagging this part especially no one's listening, but I haven't. 767 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: This is where your fans. If you die are a 768 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: Laker fan, you need to listen because I'm roasting the 769 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: covers left and right. Know they Oh my god, I 770 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: say hate me. They already know I don't. That's my dog, 771 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: that's my dude. I got his back all the way, 772 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: Like excellent coach when he's Randy to coach a realty 773 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: team were waiting for him. We should I like Darvin, 774 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: that's my dog. Darn's my dog too. He got it. 775 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 1: But you know, you know Time wanted that. Don't stop it, 776 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: stop it. You know Ti wanted the job with the Lakers. 777 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: Stop it. They didn't know, they didn't respect him, and 778 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: they didn't handle it, which makes me nervous about this 779 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: whole kide redal. I'm like, well, they handled this right, well, well, 780 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: Kurt Rambas jump in the front office and do something 781 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: that don't make sense. These people, certain people making the decisions, 782 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: should be making the decisions. You and I both know that, 783 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: and that's theer. They offered ty Lou the same contract 784 00:42:53,960 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: terms as Luke Walton, which is ridiculous. Which is ridic 785 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: you list, he is one of the rightest coaches we 786 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: have in the game NBA Championships. The players respect him. 787 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: He's not afraid of anybody. It's about winning. At the 788 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: end of the day. You're not gonna bring that diva 789 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: nonsense to me. I have nothing but mad respect for him, 790 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: which is why the Popers do so well. But you 791 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: can't change a mentality, like there is something about that 792 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: organization mentally. I believe is stuck and I don't know 793 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: what it is, but they can't get over the hump. 794 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: Now I think I think TI is going to put 795 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: them in the best position to win, but need to 796 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: fund don't funny, Okay, fine, these are my thoughts. These 797 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: are not They're not Christians thoughts. He's just trying to 798 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: tell me the facts behind the Kyrie jumping into trade deadline. 799 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: My thoughts do not stand clip. It's the title of 800 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: this podcast is NBA uh Inside the NBA tread deadline? 801 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: Clipper slander and the Lakers. Yeah, yeah, And I love 802 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: you very much. I appreciate you. Do you have anything 803 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: else you want to add? You've been you or you 804 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: do a fantastic job. And just to see you win 805 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: as a black man makes me so very happy. I 806 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: always root for you. I have nothing but great respect 807 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: for you. Um and whatever you need for me ever 808 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: in any capacity, I'm always here. Mine is to say 809 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: something nice about the Clippers. First of all, man, you 810 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 1: know I had nothing but love for you ever since 811 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: you know our days. Man, You've always been You've always 812 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: been a real one. And yeah, you called me this morning. 813 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't do many you know, I know solid you 814 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: did me. It's it's not it's not a solid you 815 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 1: take take take care of people. But I wanted I 816 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: want to promote a podcast as we just started this 817 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: past week, actually this week with my co host Mark 818 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: star ESPN. The podcast is called This Lead Uncut, and 819 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: we just dropped three episodes this week. I'm very excited 820 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: about it. I hope everybody goes subscribe, combent, go check 821 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: it out. It's really great stuff. You got two of 822 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: the the best NBA insiders you know together a duo. 823 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: We're back together from our time with ESPN as well, 824 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: so we're knocking it out the part. Uh you know, 825 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: I urge everybody please go over there and check us out, 826 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: Mark Stein and Chris Haynes This League Uncut correct? All right? 827 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: You dropped three episodes. People can find them wherever they 828 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: get their podcasts. I'm writing this. I'm promoting this like 829 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna promote this on my Amazon show You Gotta. 830 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: If all works out well with Turner, they say, you 831 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: can come on You Gotta. When you're in the l A. 832 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: You gotta sit in the studio and just shoot. We 833 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: don't have to talk about the Clippers. We can just talk. 834 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: You can talk for the crazy NBA season. I'll take 835 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: you up on that, alright, I'll get into that. Have 836 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: a good game, covering the game I'm watching, you keep 837 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: me abreast on what's happening, and let's go Lakers. That's 838 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: Carrie Champion talking, not Christ's a neutral reporter and he 839 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: just fools with me because I'm his home girl and 840 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate so. Again, by the time this podcast airs, 841 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: my hope would be that Kyrie is a Laker. I 842 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: doubt it. I think it's going to take a long 843 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: time to make that deal happen. But Kyrie has been 844 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: very clear he does want a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. 845 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: And you heard Chris Haynes say Kyrie is dug in 846 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: once he's made up his mind. He made up his mind. 847 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: He felt as if the talks were um insulting. He 848 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: is a max player and to tie a bulk of 849 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: his money to whether or not they can get a 850 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: chip is unfair. At least that is according to Chris Haynes. 851 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: I agree. Um. I also know that Kyrie is a 852 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: high risk, high reward player and that wherever he goes, 853 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: you do not know what his temperament will be. You 854 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: just don't you have to deal with that when it 855 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: comes and it happens. He is very much like I 856 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: said in the podcast, he's he's the person you date 857 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: when you know you shouldn't date him. You're like, man, 858 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: this is going all bad, but I still won't you. 859 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: And that's how most of Laker Nation feels. If this 860 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: is what we have to do to win a chip, 861 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 1: what then coming in and do all the sage you 862 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: need to do what? I don't know. If the Summer 863 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: Solstice says you only play on Tuesdays and Thursdays, only 864 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: play on Tuesdays and Thursdays as long as you there 865 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: so we can win a chip, I don't know. Whatever 866 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: it takes, whatever it takes, we're desperate. These names that 867 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: you guys are giving us don't sound worthy, and by 868 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: you names were here flirting around for the Lakers. Meanwhile, meanwhile, 869 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm okay with dating somebody who might give me a headache, 870 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: but the immediate result is a championship. By Candy, Kyrie's candy. 871 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I would love for him to be sustenance. 872 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: I'd love for him to be a vegetable, good for 873 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: your body, good to eat, good for everything, good for 874 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: your skin, but right now he's candy because we can't 875 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: determine what he feels and think he's just a different dude. 876 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: And it's so funny because a true Laker fan, a 877 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: year and a half ago, I was like, I don't 878 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: want him. He's too moody, he's this, he's at. We 879 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: were so so particular about what we would have, but 880 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: now it's been some dark days and make the playoff 881 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: one season, to make the play in one season, and 882 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 1: now we're seen here struggling, watching us struggle against the 883 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: NIXT What what is happening? So Kyrie high, come babe. 884 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: We got a place for you here in l A 885 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: and the Hills. I know a good shot where you 886 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: can get some herbal, some some herbal festivities if you 887 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: need them. Uh what else? What else? What else do 888 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: you need? Um? You know whatever you need, whatever you need. Um, 889 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,720 Speaker 1: We're ready for you, Kyrie. We want you here. So anyway, 890 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: thank you so very much for listening to this podcast. 891 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to tell you, but we 892 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: hope for Kyrie. I'll update you next week. I hope 893 00:48:54,560 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: you've enjoyed this version of the podcast. I