1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebine, a space where no 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: question is off limits and storylines become lifelines. The views 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: shared by our guests are meant to inform, entertain and empower. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: From the laughs to the lessons. Just remember, tough times 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: don't last, but professional homegirls do enjoy the show. 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, is Shagara Ebine here? And I hope all 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: is cute. Now, before we dive into this week's episode, 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: let's do a little housekeeping. Okay, first of all, what 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: did we think about this year spooky series? I feel 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: like it was so good right, and of course Taylor 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: came through with his sound effects like always, Oh, thank 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: you so much, Taylor. But I don't know, guys, let 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: me know what you think about this. I'm thinking about 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: we should do a spooky series and make it year round, 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, a little little scared here and there. I 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: don't know something. What you think send me your emails 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: hello at the phgpodcast dot com. And should we just 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: keep the spooky series only for October or should we 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: sprinkle a little a little spooky episode here and that 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: throughout the year. I would love to hear you all thoughts. 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: And also you can watch all of the episodes on 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: YouTube by subscribing to the Professional Homegirl channel. Okay, We're 23 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: almost at a thousand subscribers and I'm so so excited. 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: Plus I get the monetize, y'all, so please hold me 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: no out. But you know this has definitely been a 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: goal of mine for this year, so please make sure 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: to hold me down. Don't hold me up. 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And also, 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: let's remember y'all, you know this is a tough season 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: for everyone, so let's not shame anyone who needs support. 45 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: And I know it's not my professional homegirls, but I've 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: just been seeing some disgusting commentary about people using food stamps, 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna tell y'all right now, Okay, we are 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: a lot closer and I do say we to using 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: food stamps than we are to becoming billionaires. Okay, especially 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: in this economy. So let's continue to support each other. 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: Let's continue to lift each other up. 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We are in the process 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: of finalized and all logistics, so I will hopefully I 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: have an update with you all soon because I'm like 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: super excited with the possibility of having some partners being involved. 61 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: But until then, donate and share by clicking the link 62 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: in the show notes be low. Now, on this week's episode, 63 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: we're going to finish up our conversation from part one 64 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: with our New York stripper story. So in part two, 65 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: my guest opens up about whether she ever felt pressure 66 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: to change her body while working in the industry. I 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: also give a hot take on bbls, and my guests 68 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: also shares her experience of being outed and how she 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: told her family she was a shripper. So, y'all, this 70 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: was such an amazing conversation, so please get ready because 71 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: part two starts. Now, Well, I feel like you're pretty 72 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: confident and you know who you are. So have you 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: ever felt pressure and like wanting to change your body 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: because of this industry? 75 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I think like when I first got in 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: the industry, like I was like this close to like 77 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: getting like my lips done just to start, like and 78 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: who knows what would have happened after that, because you 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: know how it is like once you get something done, 80 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: like you just are like what else can I like 81 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: fix or like augment or whatever? Right? But I think 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: luckily because like I have like a career outside of this, 83 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of just like like there's like this 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: isn't the end. 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: All be all for me, like I want, Like I'm 86 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: not trying to be. 87 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: No like journalists or reporter producer taked up with a 88 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: BBL like you know, telling my story before I get 89 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: into a chance to tell my story. So I have, 90 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: But also too, there is nothing that like excuse me, 91 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: proves that like having surgery increases your earnings, Like there 92 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: is no metric that determines. 93 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: That BBOs are loky, not even. 94 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: In like that they're not exactly and like especially like 95 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: you haves, it's about finding your right customer, because there's 96 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: dudes that common. They're like I like that you're natural, 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 3: Like I like that you look like like I don't 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: really want that, like it don't look what like I want. 99 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: I don't want to be rudy to the girls. 100 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: But I mean, no, it's a real thing, like which 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: I think is I have a theory on BBL guys. 102 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: I was having a conversation with a friend and we 103 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: were talking about luxury right, and we were saying, how 104 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: back in the day, because I used to before I 105 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: got into this industry, I used to work in high 106 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: luxury fashion doors and when you used to work in 107 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: these luxury uh uh brands, luxury was so hard for 108 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: you to get, like there was no payment plans, like 109 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: either you had it or not, and when you and 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: also when you had it, you didn't wear it as 111 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: often as many people were their luxury now. So I 112 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: compare luxury to bbls because back in the day, plastic 113 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: surgery used to be something that only the rich can do. 114 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: Only things that people like with you know, who had 115 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: like status was doing, Like plastic surgery was not something 116 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: that was accessible. So the fact that now bbls became 117 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: so accessible to everyone, it's no longer considered luxurious. It's 118 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: no long concident a thing of status. So that's why 119 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: everybody who had bbls are starting to go back to 120 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: natural bodies because now natural bodies are constilled luxurious and 121 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: things that, Yeah. 122 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: That's exactly it, Like it's a trend, like. 123 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: And it's a trend and don't. 124 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: Last, Like it truly is dependent on how the consumer 125 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: is feeling. And like you said, luxury is predicated on 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: like it's it's it's inaccessibility, like right activity. 127 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: Like certain things like you couldn't I remember one time 128 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: I used to work at Gucci and I'm like, oh 129 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: my god, like what are y'all selling down stairs? Like 130 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: why are we making all this money? And I'm like 131 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: everybody had Gucci, even with Chanel, Like it's not like 132 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: it's expensive as hell. Everybody has it. Like nothing is 133 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: nothing is out of reach anymore? 134 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: Right exactly? 135 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: And also too, I couldn't be bls Yeah exactly. 136 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: That's the other thing too. I learned that girls were 137 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: taking our loans to get their bodies done. 138 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and like this like it's an investment. 139 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: Well that's what I'm saying, but like what is the investment? 140 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: Like you got to pay your body off and you 141 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: gotta like take that money off. Remember we have dry 142 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: seasons in the club, Like are you making the money? 143 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: Are you breaking even? I don't know, maybe you need 144 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: like somebody like you know, I would love to hear 145 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: more about that, Like does it correlate. 146 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: To like more money in the club, because like. 147 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: I think that if you do it a certain way 148 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: and if you position yourself, I think that you could 149 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: be able to get to what you want. Maybe not 150 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: in the club, but just in life general. I don't 151 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: think it's as easy as it used to be. But 152 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you get the right trick, 153 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: the rest is history. 154 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. It depends on the trick, 155 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: like and like how they're feeling and what their vibe 156 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: is and like because I feel like there's nights for 157 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: like I'm making money in the club and I'm getting 158 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: a lot of hater ration from the girls that are 159 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: like searched and they're like like why is she making 160 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: all of this? 161 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: Like I look like this and she looks like that. 162 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: But it's like, I think the most empowering thing in 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: the club is like cause there's been nice bro, I 164 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: forgot my makeup, I forgot some lashes, and like still 165 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: left with like money and surprise myself. Like that's when 166 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: you truly have to get into your game and you're like, 167 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: these customers are not just here for what I look like, 168 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 3: They're here for the overall experience. 169 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you make them feel. 170 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 4: Yes, And like the way you look is a part 171 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: of it. 172 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: And like I say this again as a black woman, 173 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: like you know that does experience anti black racism in 174 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: the club all types of shit. But when you lean 175 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: in and you're like look like like this is what 176 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: I'm good at talking making people laugh, like engaging, like 177 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: they can't get that from any other girl. 178 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: And I'm it's I think leaning into your strengths. 179 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: Is like personality will take you far, baby, yeah. 180 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: Like and especially let's be real, like when these customers 181 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: come in, I also try to make sure I'm the 182 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: first person that they talk to so that they look 183 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: for me after and they see, like, these girls are 184 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: not talking to you the way that I am. They're 185 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: not you know, articulating or like giving it up the 186 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: way that I am. 187 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: Like I'm making you giggle. 188 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: Yhy exactly, y'all, I'm gonna lack you out of your 189 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: wallet in a second. And they like walk away and 190 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: be like, don't look at my bet when I walk away, 191 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: just don't give a better chance to talk or anything. 192 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: Just go right, and they're they're they're gonna be like 193 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: because it's the first experience they had and after they 194 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: talk to people and stuff like that. Not every time, obviously, 195 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: but like there are times where, like you know, a 196 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: customer will be like, wait, come back here, and then 197 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: you talk to them and they're like why like nobody. 198 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: I hate to say this too, but like they'll be 199 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: like nobody speaks English, like nobody, like you know, is 200 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: able to like communicate, You're smart, like and yeah, I 201 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: don't know. 202 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: Now, you're right, You're right. So wait, so does your 203 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: family know about this? 204 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: Oh my god, yes, and what do you think about this? 205 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: You said, what what do they think? 206 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? 207 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: And I was telling my dad today, like cause you know, 208 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: eventually I would like a post studio is a part 209 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: of my portfolio. One of these days, I found a 210 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 3: job that was hiring for a whole like desk receptionist. Unfortunately, 211 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: it was like eighteen dollars an hour. And I was 212 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: telling my dad and he was like, no, don't waste 213 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: her time with that, like right, And he knows that 214 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: I'm a dancer, like I told him maybe a year 215 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: into like working at the club, like the first night 216 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: that I ever did it, I told Manny like I 217 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: told like a handful of like people I could count 218 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: on my hand, like how many people knew my first 219 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: year ever working in the club. And that was hard. 220 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 3: Like I lied to my family. I told them that 221 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: I was like a bartender. Except for my siblings. They 222 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: have my location. So I was just like, look, here's 223 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: what it is. This is where I'm at. You know 224 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: of anything, right whatever, and you know that was just 225 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: out of safety. They were just like okay, like type shit. 226 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: They weren't the happiest. They were just like it is 227 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: what it is, she gonna do what she wants, right. 228 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: But I think it was like a year into working 229 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: in the industry and my dad and I. 230 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: Were like making Thanksgiving dinner. It was just us in 231 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: the kitchen, everybody turkey chow. 232 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: I did. Like it started actually with like a random 233 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 3: conversation about just like I just asked him. I was like, Daddy, 234 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: have you ever been to a strip club? And he 235 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: stayed quiet at person. He was like, yeah, have you 236 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: And I was like yeah, like and I asked him 237 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: about it. I was like where did you go? And 238 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: he was like, well, I was in the Navy, so 239 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: I went abroad. And I was like what was that like? 240 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: And like I just started asking, like talking to him, 241 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: asking questions, and then like at. 242 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: Some point I was just like hey, like heads up. 243 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: And it was crazy because one time I paid my 244 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: rent like good, like my dad's my landlord. But once 245 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: I paid my rent like in singles, like just to 246 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: see like how he would like respond. But I think 247 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: he just he thought like I was just being like 248 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: like a gag yet like or something like that. But yeah, 249 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: I told him about it. I was like, oh, so, 250 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 3: like heads up, like you know, I work at the 251 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: Ship club right now, like and he kind of I 252 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: don't know why. He was just like, well, you know 253 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: you did what you did. It is what it is. 254 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, well daddy, like I'm going 255 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: to work tonight and like it's not like a past 256 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 3: tense thing like this is what I do. And he 257 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: was really just concerned about my safety more than anything, 258 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: like I don't think I think he trusts that, like 259 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going to do anything to compromise like my safety, 260 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: like I personal boundaries and stuff like that. Like I 261 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: hate niggas. 262 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: Like yeah, but and no shade to like. 263 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: The full service people. But for me, bruh, I can't. 264 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: I don't even like when y'all touch me, Like I can't, brau, 265 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: Like no, I don't even like hugging people. 266 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: But I don't even like when niggas look at me 267 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: for free on the street. 268 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: Wait, why did your mom? How did your mom feel? 269 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: My mom actually passed away when I was in college. 270 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: But what's interesting about that is that I had a 271 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 3: really the first year that I was a dancer. I 272 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: kept it to myself because I just was scared of 273 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: like what people were gonna think or whatever. 274 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: Right, the judgment that comes with it. 275 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: Like bro, it made me sick, Like I literally got 276 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: like sick like six times in a year, like a 277 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: cold or like a like flu type shit. I was 278 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: like losing my hair and stuff like that. 279 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: She was stressed to fuck out. 280 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: Yes exactly, and like just like again like lying to 281 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: my family like you no, like coming home late at night, 282 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: all of it. But again I tapped into that book 283 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: sex Worker, Psychics and Number Runners Black Women in New 284 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: York City's undergund Economy by doctor Lashawn Harris. 285 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 4: No relation to me, Oh well whatever. 286 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: Anyway, long to the short though, she talked about like 287 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: black women in New York City underground economy and like 288 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: how they just like made things happen even in the 289 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: face of like a very like racist and anti black 290 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: and like sexist like formal work sphere. And one day 291 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: I just randomly was like, you know, I was missing 292 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: my mom or whenever she died. When I was like nineteen, 293 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: when I was in my junior year of college and 294 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: she had came past she had breast cancer, but she 295 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: she had it for like most of my life, like 296 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: thirteen years. And I yeah, like and she was a hairstylist. 297 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: She actually owned like her own salons, like plural and 298 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: like a true entrepreneur, like very much like I don't child, 299 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: I don't have time for this, Like I gotta go 300 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: to work, and you're coming with me, Like I was 301 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: raised in the hair salon, Like first job ever was 302 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: like sweeping up hair in the salon at like nine 303 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: years old. 304 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Tina and Beyonce, right. 305 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: All that could say. 306 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: I randomly like looked up like my grandma's address one 307 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: day just to see like what archives could come up 308 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: from this, like what is this whole thing? Yeah, and 309 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: I found a fine that she got in in my 310 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: grandma's house for having an illegal hair salon in the 311 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: basement of like my mom's house. And I was just like, 312 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: I think that's so crazy that both of us found 313 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: our way in the underground economy, but under different like circumstances, 314 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: right like like and she later ended up like being 315 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: on the cover of the New York Times owning all 316 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: these hair salons like and stuff like that, and like 317 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: again like the informal funds the formal and like you know, yeah, anyway, 318 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: I thought that that was like really interesting and that 319 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: kind of like put my feelings in shame and guilt 320 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: to rest. And I'm like, like this is like ancestral, 321 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: like this type of work black women having to like 322 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: hack this like system to like make ends meet, and 323 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: not only like just to make ends meet, but like 324 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: to take it to the next level and like drive 325 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: and like. 326 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: Go on vacation when you want and have fun. You 327 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: want like really live like like pleasure. 328 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: Like so yeah, I stopped feeling like game and guilt 329 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: and I just like leaned into it and like my 330 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: dad being like cool about it and everyone else being 331 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: cool about it like that just he drops me off 332 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: at work sometimes like he's like, oh my god, yeah, 333 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: like it's it's fine, like obviously he but he again 334 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: he knows that like what my boundaries are how I am. 335 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 4: So I think he's just trusting that. 336 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: But like even today, like like I was talking to 337 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: him and I was telling him, like I had a 338 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: good night the other night, and he was like, I 339 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: hope you'd be praying for these customers at the end 340 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: of the night. I'm like, anyway, like that right, yeah, 341 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: do you pray for your bosses and stuff like that 342 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: at work? No? Likely. 343 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: What's up y'all, It's Shagar Mna here and be sure 344 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: to follow me on Instagram and TikTok at pretty Private 345 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: podcast and don't forget to subscribe to my YouTube channel 346 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: at the Professional Homegirl. Now let's get back to the show. So, 347 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: has someone ever outed you as a stripper? 348 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: Yes? Child of Oh my god. There's one particular what 349 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: ginger podcaster that did attempt to out me on his 350 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: ragny podcast about like a time that he had with 351 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: me in the club and not just me but like 352 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 3: like his co hosts and like some actual like full 353 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: service like sex worker points star girly like hm hm anyway, 354 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: but yeah, that that that that did happen essentially what 355 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: we did at the IQ room, And I kind of 356 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: peeped that it was him in the beginning, but I 357 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: didn't really like want to like confirm or whatever. 358 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: And also I'm sorry, but like in the club, like 359 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 4: I your status outside of. 360 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 3: The club doesn't really matter, Like I just want to 361 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: get paid, so like everyone's a superstar in my eyes, but. 362 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: That everybody is a superstar, baby, you know, like so. 363 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: Long as it makes sense you're paying sure, like, but yeah, 364 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 3: we did a VIP room and like it was three 365 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: of them, one of me. 366 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 4: They were being weird, like not weird in. 367 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 3: The sense of like you know, asking for extra shit 368 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: or anything, but like I feel like we were both 369 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: just looking at each other like what do you want? Like, 370 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: cause I feel like I was. I came in. You know, 371 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: in our VIP rooms you can set the music and 372 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: set your own vibe or whatever, so like, you know, 373 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 3: I played some music, and I felt like they were 374 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: all just like sitting there like looking and I was 375 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: kind of just like, okay, like do y'all want like 376 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: different music or something? 377 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: This looking at each other truly like and then I 378 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: was like. 379 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: All right, well, I'm just gonna play some music and 380 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna dance, like if y'all want to like throw 381 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: some money along the way, cool, Like I don't know. 382 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: At this point, we got an hour left, like we 383 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: hear right? Yeah, So yeah, we were doing that and 384 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: then the dude he had to asked, He was like, so, 385 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: what's your story? 386 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 4: And I like literally was like, oh, like puts titties away, 387 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 4: Like what do you what do you mean by that? 388 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: Like what do you want to know did you recognize 389 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: who he was at that point, like oh this is so. 390 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: And so uh yes, but also like like maybe eighty percent, 391 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: Like I still wasn't like h but then yeah, I 392 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: had told them. I was like, oh, like I work 393 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: in the podcasting industry, like I host the show about 394 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: the strip club. 395 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 4: I'm with like this particular company, And they. 396 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: Were like, oh, like we have a podcast, and I 397 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: was like, oh okay, I thought, so, like what welcome, 398 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: Like how are you guys? Right? And anyway like it 399 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: it It just was like a it was like a 400 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: chat cast like in the viv room. But I would 401 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: have been I didn't know that they were going to 402 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 3: use that like experience and like turn it into content 403 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: like quite literally hours later at the studiento and like 404 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: talk more about it and like put it behind a 405 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 3: Patreon wall and like capitalize on that experience, like. 406 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: Goddamn, because they was talking about the experience and a 407 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: friend of yours reached a couple of people reached out 408 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: to you and. 409 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 3: Was like is this you talking about? Right? They had 410 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: mentioned like they said, like a black girl that does 411 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: podcasting that works at this particular club. 412 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 4: So they didn't like explicitly say my name and. 413 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 3: My name at the club isn't my real name, right, 414 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: but you know, there's only about three dancers that are 415 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: black that work in the club, and like we're oftentimes 416 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: like not even there all. At the same time, was anyway, yeah, 417 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: someone from college had I guess listened to the show 418 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: and reached out. Actually no, he didn't reach out. He 419 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: actually shared like my social media with the host of 420 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: the show. 421 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: And then the host of the show reached out to me, 422 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 4: and I was kind of like, what the hell is this? 423 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 3: And then the host of the show had told me, oh, 424 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 3: I guess a friend from college recognized who we were 425 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: talking about and shared your socials with us, and there's that. 426 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 4: And then there was talk about like, oh that. 427 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: Is kind of scary though. 428 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: Bro, it's really a small world, like not even just 429 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: in the podcasting issue, in the strip club industry in general. 430 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: Bro, Like it's just. 431 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 4: And then yeah, long, like there there was talk. 432 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 3: About, oh, come on the show and stuff like that, 433 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: or maybe we can like bring Mike's in the VIP 434 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: room and do an episode there. But then those conversations 435 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: like quickly wavered and like turned into like just oh, so, 436 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: what are you doing tonight? Are you going to work? 437 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: Like let's like like there was yeah, like and from 438 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: there again Like for me personally, I really it's just no, Like. 439 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's so crazy because what are the odds 440 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: of this person having their platform and they having this 441 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: conversation about their experience and the next thing, you know, 442 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: people are hearing you talk about someing, Hey this is you? 443 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: Like that is so crazy to me. 444 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like they've named. 445 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 3: The club, like and there's multiple locations of the club, 446 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: but like they specifically said like it's location. 447 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: Oh that's scary. 448 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: It was about a paywall, like who knows, but like 449 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: it's still like a weird feeling, like the hyper surveillance 450 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: of it all right, Yeah, I don't know. 451 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: So what do you do without it? 452 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 453 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: Because I'm just like because now you think they about 454 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: your safety, So like what do you do to ensure 455 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: that you're gonna that you're you're safe? Because even though 456 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: your siblings and your father and everybody have to have 457 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: your location, but like you know, you're a critique woman. 458 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: And then like when you have people come on or 459 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: you don't know who's who and they're talking about, oh 460 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: I met this girl at this so and the location 461 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: isn't it? Like like what do you do in those situations? 462 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: I feel like yeah, I mean one, all my social 463 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: media is are private just yeah, like anything like even if. 464 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 4: There's like a moment where like okay, a customer is like. 465 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: Asking for like my number, I'll be like, oh, I've 466 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 3: given my social media, you have to pay for that. 467 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: But even still, like you know, I'm determining who's allowed 468 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 4: to come in and who's not. 469 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: So there's that right. Also just like when I come 470 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: home from work, like I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes I 471 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: take the train, sometimes I drive, Like it just depends 472 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: on how I feel. Sometimes I uber like it just 473 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, depends. But like I will like put 474 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: my money in like a separate area like that is 475 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: not like a wallet that in case someone does try 476 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: to like yeah like that like here you have the 477 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: wallet with the little ten dollars on it, like my 478 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: money is really here or. 479 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. 480 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: I love New York. The way we think is like 481 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: because I be doing that too, Like I put my 482 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: phone somewhere else, just get somebody shore I steal my bag. 483 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: It's like nope, a. 484 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: Little dummy iPhone six here child like take it. Yeah, 485 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: but yeah, or even at home, like I have a 486 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: safe like with like you know, a code and a 487 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: lock on it. And when I do drive, I have 488 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: a safe there as well, like but even still my seat, 489 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: I'm not even on, I'm off, like and if I'm driving, 490 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: like I'm making sure that nobody's following me. I'll say 491 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: four or five times before the host is clear. And 492 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 3: if someone is following, I just take them somewhere where 493 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: they don't feel safe, like whether that is the precinct 494 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: or a very hot, spicy block, I don't know, but 495 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: you know, a little guessing game surprise, right. 496 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a situation like that where 497 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: you feel like the customer. 498 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 3: Was like never really no good? And also bear mates 499 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: bro like yeah, forty feet of protection man like bear 500 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: mace a tager. 501 00:24:53,000 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 4: Like like, I mean it's there, like I I see it, 502 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 4: though if you get that close that I have to 503 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: use it. 504 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: Oh, Like I don't think I was vigilant on my 505 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: end and to make sure that like you know, not 506 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: even trying to vike them blame but like I'm just 507 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: again New York. 508 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 4: I'm just hyper vigilant about like my safety. 509 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, us New York girls like you gotta keep your 510 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: hair on the swovel, like we don't play no games. 511 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 4: The daytime and the night time whenever, all. 512 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: Day, all night. Okay, So being working in this industry, like, 513 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: how has your experience as a dancer changed how you 514 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: think about love and intimacy? 515 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: Oh? 516 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 4: Wow, okay, that is so interesting. 517 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: Why you hear that? The only reason why I asked 518 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: because I'm just thinking to myself, like if I was 519 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: to constantly be around men, and like, your approach to this, 520 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: your style is different than most, Like you're not full service. 521 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: So for you, it's basically your personality that's helping you 522 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: with your clientele. And then you actually, you know you're working, 523 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: but you're pretending that you're interested in these people. And 524 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: maybe sometimes she may get a connection with them, but 525 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: I can only imagine how some of these men feel, like, 526 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: oh shit, I'm laughing. She cool this that I'm getting? 527 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: Look one two step, you know what I'm saying. 528 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, oh my god, I mean okay to that, 529 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: like like in the club, Like I dated like while 530 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: working in the club, and not like particularly like men 531 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: in the club. 532 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 3: Although I am dating someone that I met in the 533 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 3: club right now for the first time ever. Like that's crazy. 534 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: But I've dated like civilian men that like don't come 535 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: to the club, and I think I want to know something. 536 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 3: I think, Okay, when I dated those dudes, like, Okay, 537 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: this dude I'm dating right now, I'm not saying he's 538 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: like a special person or anything, but. 539 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: When it comes to like not too light in love already, 540 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: I know that's so. It is a beautiful thing. 541 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: No, I never wanted to date while I was in 542 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 3: a shiplub. I never wanted to because, like, bro, I 543 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: don't even want my man going to a strip club, 544 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: Like why like or if they do. 545 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 4: I can understand if like, Okay, we're together and we're 546 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 4: like out of New York and like I am, you're 547 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 4: in Atlanta. 548 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 3: Okay, we're there for the experience, let's pay the girls whatever, 549 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 3: But like, no, like, are you comfortable. 550 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: With your partner being in the club. 551 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: M I would say, at this big age, I don't 552 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: think it's a matter of me being comfortable. I'll just 553 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 2: be like why because you got all of this at 554 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: home type of thing, and why can't I come with you? 555 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't know. 556 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: I feel like even if you go into the club 557 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: with like the purest of intentions. Brothers, alcohol baddies, like 558 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 3: like the way. 559 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, but like I said, I used to 560 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: really enjoy going to the strip club, Like like I 561 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: was in the strip club so much that I was 562 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: helping this one girl named Jamaica. I doubt if she 563 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: still works there, but I was helping her trying to 564 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: get in school. Like that's how active I was in 565 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: the strip club. Like yeah, like I used to be 566 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: in the club. So and I think the clubs are 567 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: like for me, it's a party, like people used to 568 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: go to the strip clubs to party and hang out whatever. 569 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: So I want to be uncomfortable. But I feel like 570 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: if my guy was to continuously keep going to the 571 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: strip club, then it will raise red flags for me 572 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: cause it's like because I mean, like the men I 573 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: they don't really go to the strip club. They don't 574 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: even go to clubs like that. Les I want to 575 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: go out and it's more so like lounges and stuff. 576 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, part like bro, even in that episode of 577 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: like Married to Medicine, they have code length like we're 578 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: gonna go get some wings, which means like we're going 579 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: to to the. 580 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: Strip Club, right, hate that and I don't even eat 581 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: chicken no more. So that's another reason why I don't 582 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: go to the club because they have the best hot 583 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: wings y'all, Oh my god, the best wings. 584 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, like okay, I feel like there have 585 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: been times like once, like I dated like a basketball 586 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: player once and like he was playing like professional ball 587 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: but like national or whatever, and like I don't know. 588 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 3: One time we were talking and he was like, I 589 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: play ball, you work in the club, like it makes sense. 590 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: And I was like huh, like what does that mean? 591 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: Like why do you like me? 592 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: Like that's not what you're trying to hear, so play. 593 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: And then I dated this other dude that had like. 594 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: Or has like a really well known like music platform 595 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: or whatever, and like like you know what, nig no 596 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: he he take record. 597 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: Like he has like that. 598 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: Show on the radar, like the music platform where the 599 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: niggas come on and they do the freestyles or whatever. 600 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you posted you posted on him on your page, 601 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: did I? Well, not him, but you gave him a 602 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: shadow I started post on Instagram. 603 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 3: I hope not. Oh yes, I saw. 604 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, listen when I get in my research 605 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: band that's crazy. 606 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh well maybe about okay exactly, I'm. 607 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: Gonna beat some of that out, so they put yeah, 608 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: but yeah, And then I. 609 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: Just found it interesting that like suddenly, like when he's 610 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: talking to these rappers and stuff like that, like the 611 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: topic of like dating strippers is coming up and like 612 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: stuff like that, and I'm like, huh, like and not 613 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: just that, like where I went to school is also 614 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: coming up, and like I think, like I think every 615 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: man wants to like date a stripper or at least 616 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: have the story of, like, oh I dated a stripper 617 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: back in my day because it just gives them like cold. 618 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: Because in their mind it puts them at a level 619 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: of the men that they want to be like exactly. 620 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, cultural like relevance or something. 621 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: But like yeah, matter of fact, like I didn't like Nika, 622 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: shut up. 623 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: No, Like it still doesn't work, like. 624 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think so. 625 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. But I'll say, like this particular dude, even though 626 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: I met him in the club, like and we've only 627 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: been dating for like five months or whatever, I made 628 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: very clear like I don't want to date like or whatever. 629 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: But he's been a gentleman. But this is the first 630 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: time that I've had a dude say like how long 631 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: are you gonna be in the club. It's like I 632 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: don't want you in the club, And like it makes 633 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: me think about like the last situations that I've had 634 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: where like those dudes were like okay with me being 635 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: in the club, and I'm wondering, like was it because 636 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: they didn't like me the same way that I like them, 637 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: and like like maybe like they knew it was like 638 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: a temporary thing or whatever, and like they didn't care enough. 639 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: To like you know, yeah, the illusion that you gave 640 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: them prison, Yeah, yeah. 641 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: And also dating dudes in the club, like you have 642 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: to like be clear, like who I am here is 643 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: not who I am like outside of here, Like I 644 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 3: like I'm a loser, like I read I go kayaking 645 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: with my dad like like I like, yeah, like we're 646 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: gonna be talking about like black them theory outside hearing, 647 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: like workers' rights not. 648 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: Like but that's a real thing though, because I don't 649 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: know if you remember this, but the Trina she was 650 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: saying how when she used to date these men, they 651 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: would want the rapper Trina. She was like that is 652 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: not me, Like that's part of me, but like who 653 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: I am at the court, you're gonna be highly disappointed, exactly. 654 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 4: And also, wasn't Trina a dancer at one point? 655 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: Like wasn't she a stripper once upon a time? 656 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: I want to say yes, yeah, interested, I want to 657 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: say yeah, yeah, but I want to say also, most 658 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: well not this day and age rappers, but most rappers, 659 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: most feomale rappers were shippers, come from the industry. 660 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 4: Eve dream Doll, she was like a bartender, but yeah, 661 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 4: like it was a Chinese kitty as well. It was 662 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 4: a little star tender. 663 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but. 664 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, dating is like yeah, exactly, exactly, not 665 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: like you just have to remember, like if you're in 666 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 3: the club, you're like, hey, hell are you still here? 667 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: This is the fantasy? Or if they start to think something, 668 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: charge them for like something else, like snap them back 669 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: to reality. Yeah, because yeah, I don't feel like texting 670 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: nobody once I leave home, Like I don't why normal? 671 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, there's not. 672 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: Has strippen like has it impact that your mental health? 673 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: Because I feel like, I mean, I want to say, 674 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: I feel like you got a good hit on your show. 675 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: It's like you're not like, I know you said that 676 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: you wanted to retire this year, but you also felt 677 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: like maybe you're not where you want. 678 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: To be at. 679 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: But I don't know, I feel like I just speaking 680 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: to you and get to know more about you, Like 681 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: I feel like your mental health hasn't really. 682 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: Like yeah, I feel like it's I think again. 683 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: I know, I think. Yeah. 684 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: I come from like a privileged background, like you know, 685 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 4: I went to like a private college, Like you know, 686 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 4: this is. 687 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: Kind of like survival work. 688 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: But you know I could like just go and get 689 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: like a little like cause you really have to shrip? 690 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 3: Do I really have to strip? Like no, no, I'm 691 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 3: gonna be honest, no, But the thought of like going 692 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: back to like a twenty dollars an hour job and 693 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 3: like getting like overworked and underpaid, I'm like, like I 694 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: definitely don't want to do that. I'll do it like again, 695 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: like my timeline is my timeline, Like if I have to, 696 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: I'll do it, or I'll probably do that and still 697 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 3: stay at the club. Yeah, But overall, like I think 698 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 3: in the beginning, when I was at the wrong clubs, 699 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 3: it was like I was feeling very incapable and I 700 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: was feeling like what the hell, what is going on? 701 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: My money is plateauing? Like it doesn't make sense, and 702 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: there was a lot of like comparison going on. But 703 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 3: I think when you zoom out and you're like, look 704 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 3: like you don't know who's doing what for how much 705 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 3: like inside the club and outside the club truly, Yeah, 706 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 3: and like the same way that like in the real world, 707 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: you don't know like what people have done or what 708 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: they haven't done to get to where they've been, Like 709 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: that's their journey and that's where they are. Like you are, 710 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: like your person, the way you look and stuff like 711 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 3: that is specific to you. Like that's just what it is. 712 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 3: And like also though, I think it's really important to 713 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: do things outside of the club that affirm who you are, 714 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: what your existence is, and like not. 715 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 2: Associate so it doesn't affect your identity. 716 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like not to associate how much money or 717 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: how little money you made the night before with like 718 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 3: your value, like I've had I'm not I'm gonna be honest, 719 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 3: even the night that I made that little five thousand 720 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 3: plus or whatever, like I still was like this was 721 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: not enough is enough? Like so yeah, I think having 722 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: a community though, definitely helps, like because this is very 723 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: isolating work, Like when I'm coming home from work after 724 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: hours and stuff like that. It's just me. Most of 725 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: my friends were completely opposite schedules, like and I have 726 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: like lost friends throughout the process, even like my black 727 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 3: friend theorists, you know, scholar friends from college that they 728 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: just don't get it, like or they don't see that. 729 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 3: They still think it's like work done under the male gaze, 730 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 3: which like some of that is true, yes, but also 731 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: they don't realize that, like we do have agency in 732 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 3: this work, or at least I have agency in my work. 733 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: And I yeah, I choose what like I want to 734 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: pass and what doesn't pass, Like my boundaries are my boundaries? 735 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 3: Like yeah, so yeah, I think also like bro like moving, stretching, 736 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: like so much in mental health too, is like are 737 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: you showering? Are you eating? 738 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 4: Are you yeah yourself like delf care, Yeah exactly, so 739 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 4: like if you're able or for me, I found that 740 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: that helps. 741 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 3: Going on hot girl walks helps, like and just reminding 742 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: myself like there's a world outside of this and like 743 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 3: that's the reality of like work too, like your work, 744 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 3: like Tony Morrison said, like you go to work, you're 745 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: you so awoke. 746 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: I love woke a woke girl. I won't see you 747 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: in there with your customers. Now do you know who 748 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 2: Tony Morrison. 749 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 4: Is exactly like? 750 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, you go to work, you do what 751 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 3: you need to do, you come home like your work 752 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 3: is not your identity, Like it's safest that way, and 753 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 3: like you shouldn't make it your identity. Like I don't know. 754 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: So where is it going to take you to leave? 755 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: Is it a good job once it comes your way? 756 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 3: Yeah? Like I definitely want to. I mean okay, yeah 757 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 3: once by a time I was like I do not 758 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 3: want to work, No, damn nine to five. But like 759 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 3: at this point, like you know, but not know, like 760 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 3: fifty five thousand, like or even sixty thousand, Like I'll 761 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 3: do it, but I'll probably still be in the club. 762 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. It could no, but excuse me 763 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 3: a job with benefits because also, you know, strip club, 764 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 3: we don't have no benefits. And I know y'all want 765 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 3: to see us climb up and down the pole and 766 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: do all these crazy things and stuff like that, which 767 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 3: some of us are willing to do. But again, remember 768 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: this job does not cover healthcare, This job. 769 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 4: Does not cover paid me. 770 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: But any of that are you saving? 771 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 3: Am I saving? Absolutely? I love a good brokerage account 772 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 3: like investing in stocks and bonds. 773 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 2: And good for you, You're gonna be out real song. 774 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 3: I feel it fingerscross, like yes, I mean yeah, I'm 775 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: even like I'm looking to change from sliding down the 776 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: stripper pole to sliding down a fired fireder pole, like 777 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm not too big to get like a cute little 778 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: like civil service job. I mean probably I'm not a cop, 779 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 3: but no shade to the cops, but just probably not 780 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 3: a cop. Yeah, and funny enough. Actually, I think I 781 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 3: had a customer. 782 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 4: That was a cop and he was like one of 783 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 4: the like I could count on my hand how many. 784 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 3: Like unsafe like circumstances that I've been in, but like 785 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 3: that dude was actually very like bold and audacious with 786 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 3: like his like I did like a little vip room 787 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 3: with him in the hood clubs, and like immediately he 788 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 3: was like like very touchy and grabby and stuff like that. 789 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 3: I was just like, whoa, what is this, honey, And 790 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 3: he was like, I'm a cop, relaxed, It's okay, showed 791 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: me his badge and everything, and I was just like 792 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 3: I'm out of here, like you're scaring me one and 793 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 3: two bruh. Even if I was to say yes and 794 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 3: be down with whatever the fuck you got going on, 795 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: Like how is this like me versus you? Like, how 796 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 3: is this supposed to work? Yeah? Oh yeah, there's that, 797 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: but yeah, to get me out the club, yeah, a 798 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 3: good well paying job like that would help with benefits 799 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: or just I just. 800 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 4: Get bold enough with like the money I've saved and 801 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: like just launch like whatever. 802 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 3: It is that I want to do, whether that's like, 803 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 3: you know, a whole studio or like, you know, figure 804 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 3: out how to do this whole like media thing, maybe 805 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 3: a platform or a space for like dancers or all 806 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 3: the sex workers news related to like I don't know, 807 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 3: but off the top of my head, I feel like, 808 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 3: let's just secure a cute little nine to pod first 809 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 3: and then we can lend the rest. 810 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 4: But exactly everything else is in motion though, like at 811 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 4: the same time. 812 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: But I'm we had a conversation, So I'm gonna definitely 813 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: help you with the media aspect because I really want 814 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: you to know, take full charge of it and go 815 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 2: full thrown away because I feel like you can really 816 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: make an impact with you know, the things that you know, 817 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: the history with certain things, and like your personality and 818 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: things of that nature. So I'm excited for you. Hopefully 819 00:40:59,239 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 2: this would be the last. 820 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm putting it out there and 821 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: that just like and. 822 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: You're meeting people along the way that want to help 823 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 2: you win and help you in certain areas. So I 824 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: think it will be yeah, thank you. That means a lot, 825 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 2: of course, and last one not least. So it would 826 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 2: be your advice to give to a new dancer about 827 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: this environment if she wants to get into the club, 828 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 2: make some extra coins. 829 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I think one. No, not every night, it's going 830 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 4: to be good. 831 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: Like if you think you have to like go in 832 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 3: or you get to go in there and sit pretty 833 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 3: and like just get paid, like that is not the case. 834 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 3: I think that is only the case for like white 835 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 3: dancers that look like very like you know, conventionally attractive, 836 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 3: like you know, and I mean truly like blond haired, 837 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 3: blue eyed, like yeah exactly. I think, figure out what 838 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 3: your strengths are, whether that truly is dancing or like 839 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: yapping or figure out maybe massages, like whatever the hell 840 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 3: your like bop is in the club, like just lean 841 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 3: into that. Find the right club for you as well, 842 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 3: Like if you feel like your money is looking the 843 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,919 Speaker 3: same and you're not seeing like you know, there should 844 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: be like an increase in like your earnings. 845 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 4: Over a period of time, track your numbers to like. 846 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 3: I don't think it's smart to just like come home 847 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 3: and like not shot down in like a calendar or 848 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 3: something how much you've made. Yeah, Like so that that 849 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,479 Speaker 3: way you could like look back in the year before 850 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 3: and be like, oh, this was a slow season last 851 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 3: week last year as well, Like this checks out. It's 852 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 3: not me, it's them. I personally think, bro, like take 853 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 3: a pole class, Like I don't think it's like know 854 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: how to do something on stage. Like there are some 855 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 3: girls that say, like just get on stage do a 856 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 3: little one to waste time. I know, Like I think 857 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 3: that is the one time you're like marketed like for 858 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: the rest of the club and like you do your 859 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 3: big one, especially in a place like New York where 860 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 3: like these girls don't do shit on the stage, Like 861 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 3: they don't perform, they don't dance or anything. You really 862 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 3: stand out and like, bro, get off the stage and 863 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 3: go to them customers and be like, did you see 864 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 3: my stage performance? 865 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 4: Did you want to lead a love donation for my performance? 866 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 3: And they will give you something like someone but like 867 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 3: you can make like an extra little something that way, 868 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 3: and you go on stage free point something, yes, ask 869 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 3: for high numbers and meets like get familiar with negotiating, Like, bro, 870 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 3: start at a thousand, goddamn, Like even if if it 871 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 3: sounds crazy, do that, Like start at a thousand if 872 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, like that gives you insight to like 873 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 3: what they're looking to spend, and be like, oh, what 874 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 3: did you think? Like you think that I deserve like 875 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 3: and okay, they give you a number, throw another hundred 876 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 3: on there, like and they'll probably meet you like there, 877 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 3: that happened on Tuesday? What else? And like again, like 878 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: you are not how much or how little you money 879 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 3: the money you made the night before. That's not the 880 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 3: case in the club, that's not the case outside the club, 881 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 3: Like none of this is indicative of who you are, 882 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 3: and so that's just that. Yeah, dang, well, this is 883 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 3: really good. 884 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: We've been in toat I knew it was gonna too. 885 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 3: I cannot believe it's been in an hour forty six minutes, 886 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: Like that's crazy. I know, I know. 887 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate you for coming on because I was like 888 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 2: when we had an initial conversation, I was like, oh 889 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 2: my god, I wonder if she would come on the 890 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 2: show and just give her experience because I did have 891 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: an interview with a stripper many years ago when I 892 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 2: first started, So the conversations are completely different, which I 893 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: thoroughly appreciate when we have people come on the show 894 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: and they talk about the same subject at a different perspective. 895 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 2: So I really appreciate you for coming on. 896 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm so glad you get a chance to 897 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 3: get some variety too, like the dancing experience. 898 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 4: Like I think, yeah, we're not all a monolith, like yeah, yeah. 899 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 3: So much, but it's depending on like who you are, 900 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 3: where you come from, and like truly like what you're 901 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 3: comfortable with. 902 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much. 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