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Speaker 4: welcome a true icon, a visionary to the CT One

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Speaker 4: on one platform today. Besides us, now is none other

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Speaker 4: than the Freeway Ricky Ross, a living legend whose life

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Speaker 4: story reads like a gripping novel. He has transcended the

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Speaker 4: boundaries of adversity to become a symbol of resilience, entrepreneurship

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Speaker 4: and transformation. You guys, coming up from the streets of

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Speaker 4: south central La Freeway Ricky Ross's journey this is a

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Speaker 4: testament to the power of human potential. He's come from

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Speaker 4: humble beginnings, He's navigated the complexities of life, marked by challenges,

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Speaker 4: and has merged as a central figure in the world

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Speaker 4: of drug trade in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: I'm mada, how are you man?

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Speaker 1: I got more now?

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you though, the evolution beyond those tumultuous

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Speaker 4: years has made his impact shine beyond the years right now.

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Speaker 4: After his release from prison, Freeeriy Ricky Ross embraced a

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Speaker 4: path of redemption and empowerment which I'm excited to hear about.

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Speaker 4: His commitment to education and community development has been nothing

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Speaker 4: short of remarkable. He's a trailblazer in the realms of

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Speaker 4: personal growth and advocacy. He has dedicated himself to dismantling

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Speaker 4: systematic barriers and providing opportunities for individuals to transcend their circumstances. Today,

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Speaker 4: we are going to deep dipe into Freeway Rickey Ross's

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Speaker 4: life journey, exploring his highs lows relationships within the cannabis

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Speaker 4: industry from a street hustler to motivational speaker and mentor.

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Speaker 1: And I love that his story is a beacon of.

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Speaker 4: Hope that reminds us all that transformation is within reach

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Speaker 4: no matter where we start. You guys, without further ado,

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Speaker 4: please welcome my man, mister Freeway Ricky.

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Speaker 2: Was that she was in.

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Speaker 5: I wow, So Freeway Man, tell us you know, you know,

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Speaker 5: right off the jump, man, let's go back, you know

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Speaker 5: before we go and tell the good stuff that you

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Speaker 5: know people may or may not know about you that

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Speaker 5: that I want to dive into.

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Speaker 1: But let's get back into you know, I grew up

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Speaker 1: in South Central. What school did you go to?

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Speaker 2: I went to elementary. I went to Manchester Elementary, Bredhard

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Speaker 2: Junior High School Firestone, Firestone, Manchester's Manchester.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Manchester, I forget. Yeah yeah, Imperial. It was a

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Speaker 2: Know that's what I'm saying on them Perial right now.

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Speaker 2: Brad Hart was called brick City, okay. And then I

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Speaker 2: transferred to Dorsey in high school because I started playing tennis.

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Speaker 2: No way, thank you for tennis.

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Speaker 1: That was your sport.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, your tennis saved my life.

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Speaker 2: Had it not been for tennis, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, most of us did. Yeah, they call me Blue.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you think you're gonna be that? What?

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Speaker 2: It's crazy that a couple of homeboys that I ran

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Speaker 3: You know, for yeah, the ones you can ever give

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, unfortunately. You know, did you ever go to college?

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Speaker 2: I went to junior college. Well, let me say this.

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Speaker 2: I played tennis at the junior college. I didn't really

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Speaker 1: I went there, but I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't go here like you're hearing me, but you're

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Speaker 2: I was on the road. She but you know, I

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Speaker 4: What was it about tennis that made it? I'm really curious, man,

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Speaker 4: was that the coach or the opportunity or with the girls.

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Speaker 2: I wish were no girls in tennis back girls didn't

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Speaker 2: like tennis players. You know, the basketball players and the

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Speaker 2: football players got all of them. Yeah, yeah, tennis. But

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Speaker 2: what tennis did for me is it gave me hope.

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Speaker 2: After I was a real little guy and and none

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Speaker 2: And I didn't know what what I was going to

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Speaker 2: I was always looking at sports. So when I When

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Speaker 2: I found tennis, I was like, oh wow, this is

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Speaker 2: So I fell in love with it around.

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Speaker 1: Tony's a little guy too.

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Speaker 4: I also funny enough, tennis was my sport.

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Speaker 2: We got to hit some balls with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's funny.

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Speaker 4: We're not little, We're not We're vertically challenged.

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Speaker 1: Because little is a different level. You know, blue can

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like just a little bit taller than

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Speaker 3: you guys, about the same size.

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Speaker 1: As you guys.

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Speaker 2: I only needed two more inches, I would best. People

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Speaker 2: don't understand, man, I'll send you a link. Amazon's got

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Speaker 2: this amazing lift shoes that we've talked about. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: every two inches.

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Speaker 1: So so listen.

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Speaker 3: So so you you were there, you're playing, Uh, playing

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Speaker 3: took me.

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Speaker 2: Out of the streets. Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 2: You know when I was in federal prison, m c

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that. It was huge.

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Speaker 3: It was all over television everywhere everywhere. Streets are going

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Speaker 2: I didn't know too, kie. But I saw him a

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Speaker 1: Park, you know where, oh, all right in the in

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Speaker 2: In the neighborhood, I would seem and and had they

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Speaker 2: right there with him. So h when when they killed him,

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Speaker 2: you don't know which incident it.

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Speaker 3: Is, what it is when it happens. Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 3: there's no like, oh, well you know it's going down.

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Speaker 3: It's going down now in the.

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Speaker 2: Mix exactly exactly, so you understand what I'm saying. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: So when I look back at my life, I was

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Speaker 2: just thankful that uh you know that that uh Richard

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Speaker 2: Williams introduced me to Tennis.

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Speaker 4: What time period of your life was, how old were

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Speaker 4: you that you got sentence? And how long was that

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Speaker 4: sentence by time he got out?

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Speaker 2: Uh I got my life sent thirty six.

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Speaker 3: No, So before we go to in the DV that,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I want to keep going into a

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Speaker 3: you know, I like that, like, you know, people see you,

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Speaker 3: you know, in certain lights, right, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: important that they know, you know, who you were growing up.

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Speaker 3: And then, you know, I don't think anybody would have

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Speaker 3: claimed that, oh, he plays tennis when I hear your story,

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Speaker 3: I'm not like, oh, yeah, Ricky Robson is playing tennis.

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Speaker 1: No, I never thought that at all.

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Speaker 2: I would think by the neighborhood teach.

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Speaker 3: But I would also think that it would be, you know,

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Speaker 1: But I know a lot more than than than other people.

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Speaker 3: But but what's on what's on Netflix, what's on television?

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Speaker 1: What do you watch at home right now? Kind of

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Speaker 1: what kind of I.

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Speaker 2: Don't really watch. The last last series I watched was

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Speaker 2: The Defining One Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Dre And yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 2: And Jimmy, I bean, I loved it. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just got a distribution deal from Universal,

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Speaker 2: so I wanted to find out what the great ones did.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I found out about my success,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if we're ready for that.

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Speaker 1: Go for We're ready for what you got.

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Speaker 2: I've always had an ability to hang out with the

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Speaker 2: you may not be as great as them, but.

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Speaker 1: You start to learn like them, you start to mimic them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you look like them, you know, and sometimes you

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Speaker 2: get the points that they did. So I had to

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Speaker 2: watch that documentary.

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Speaker 1: Sure, you know, Yeah, it was a great documentary.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was at death ro in the nineties

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Speaker 3: so and a lot of people don't know that about me,

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Speaker 3: but I was one of the first lot and artists

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Speaker 3: there and spent a lot of time with all of

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Speaker 3: watch that video. Also, the uh straight out of Compton video,

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Speaker 3: I think it was straight out of Compton with all them,

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Speaker 3: a lot of it was really happening, you know. It's

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Speaker 3: a real good indication of what was happening out there.

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Speaker 3: And I was fortunate enough to actually see it, so

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Speaker 3: it really kind of brought me so close to seeing

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, you know, it's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: So with with what you're doing right now. You know,

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Speaker 3: I know that you have a lot, you know going on.

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Speaker 3: We talked of off air, but I want to go

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Speaker 3: into you know, where it all happened.

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Speaker 1: So you know, tell us is Ricky Ross your real name?

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Speaker 2: That's my real name?

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Speaker 6: You learned how to read and write in prison?

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Speaker 2: You know they don't get them retainers back once you

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Speaker 1: He's so locked up?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he got out before I did. They did?

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Speaker 3: Did they have in the FED that they had your insteads?

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Speaker 1: A seven facilities if I could count.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, sometimes it's good to break up your time,

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Speaker 1: And you mean, do you meet some good people on

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Speaker 3: You know, I always hear good things about, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: My goodness. A matter of fact, one of the guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I studied hard. I read it with three hundred

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Speaker 2: I read the newspaper every day. I used to subprib

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Speaker 6: How many years total was that of Little lock Up?

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Speaker 2: I did twenty years to two different bills, you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, I want to I want to, you know,

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Speaker 1: How do you have we leave things?

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Speaker 3: So so really, I mean, you know, let's go into

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Speaker 2: Know, well as as we already talked about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Sure, you know, when I when.

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Speaker 2: But now I'm back in the hood. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: The street races on avalone cop.

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Speaker 2: You know. It was on Century and uh in Vermont

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Speaker 2: So so we go to the street races and we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tennis didn't pay for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then they had the pretty girls in there

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Speaker 2: with them. Yeah, I want both of those.

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Speaker 1: I'm gotta have both those. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I started going around asking all the guys, man,

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Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Dirty Bennie was like,

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Speaker 2: My bike over to his house. Yeah, and he said,

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Speaker 2: And it started from there. Benny wound up going to prison.

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Speaker 2: I took over his business.

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Speaker 1: He took it over.

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Speaker 2: A team with my own chop shop. I got my

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Speaker 2: Snatch boar, snatch war baby, snatch war, weeds yeah, the old,

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Speaker 1: Okay, Michael McLaurin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he used to paint cars.

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Speaker 2: like three of them that was that was like top

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00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: painters of cars. Yeah, me and him. It got really

444
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 2: tight because I wanted to paint my car. I didn't

445
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 2: have no money, but I wanted.

446
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: He said, let me show you how to get some money.

447
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: That's good.

448
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 2: So he introduced me. He gave me my first fifty

449
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: out of rock, told me, you see what I could

450
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 2: do with it?

451
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: Was crack already big then?

452
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't, and wasn't anybody nobody talked about crack. Yeah,

453
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 2: most of the people didn't was snorting it, yeah, you know,

454
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: including him, including him. But he gave me fifty dollars worth,

455
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 2: and I ran into uh Martin and pimp. You know.

456
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 2: I asked all other hommies and all of the old g's.

457
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: Nobody knew what cocaine was, you know what it looked like.

458
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: And finally Martin cooked it up. So Martin was the

459
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: first time I ever seen anybody actually cook up some

460
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 2: cocaine it up and I thought it was rocket signs.

461
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, this guy is cool.

462
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 1: It's really real.

463
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: And he beat me out the fifty.

464
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Wow, he beat you out the fifty right.

465
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 2: On the right, on the bat. I lose my first

466
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: day in.

467
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 3: The She just said he checked this out of the

468
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 3: hardy run over there and checked us and boom, go

469
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: how did he get you out of the man.

470
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 2: Well, he had to test it once he rocked it up.

471
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 2: He had to test it. Yeah, and you're talking about

472
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: this thing. Was only decided to match it. Yeah, fifty

473
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: dollars worth.

474
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: He tested the whole thing.

475
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: So he tested a little and he was like, man,

476
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're gonna sell that. Look, I'm just

477
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: gonna give you fifty dollars for it later. Yeah, do

478
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: it on the pipe man. Boom. But but what happened?

479
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: You learned?

480
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: He called me back. Yeah, but not with the fifty bucks.

481
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: But he had somebody who wanted to buy one hundred

482
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: dollars worth.

483
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah beat you Yeah, No, I.

484
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: Had nothing, Yeah, so I called I called Mike, and

485
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: I literally became the middle man.

486
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

487
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: When they would call me, I would call Mike. Mike

488
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: would bring it down, give it to him. But I'm

489
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: not getting any money out.

490
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: Of this, right, you're catching up your fifty still.

491
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 2: So eventually we did that. I called a gt A

492
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: case too. I got caught. The cops rated my shop.

493
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 2: I had seven cars chopped in half.

494
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: And tops already this at this time.

495
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm nineteen. Wow, we're still like in the early eighties.

496
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: At this point, the seventies, late seventies. I started thinking

497
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 2: it right before the eighties. OK, So, uh, captuate my

498
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: shop so I can't steal cars anymore. Mike ain't let

499
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: me make my money off the cocaine. So I'm just

500
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: really just like like helping Mike. So my man Ali,

501
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: who had went to jail for burglary, get out and

502
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: he was like, man, what you doing. I was like, Man,

503
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm selling uh cocaine for Mike, but I ain't making

504
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 2: no money. I need three hundred fifty dollars to get started,

505
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 2: because that's at that time I ate. I ate, well,

506
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: we used to call it eight balls, was selling for

507
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: three fifty. So he was like, look, you start to

508
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: still pretty much cheaper.

509
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

510
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: I heard like.

511
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: We'll give you some cocaine for free.

512
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

513
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 3: They just come over like, hell, you need anything, I'm

514
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: like I'm good or yeah, I'll take that whatever the

515
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 3: better feeling.

516
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: Let me taste it.

517
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: So I going to start the car. But how we we?

518
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: We we find the duce in a quarter at Brenhard

519
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 2: Junior High School, our old high school. We strip it

520
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 2: and the rest was history. We never broke again.

521
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you started buildings, how the empire started.

522
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: That's how it started with that with aduce in a quarter,

523
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: built it.

524
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 4: Up and was it a rocket ship? Was it over

525
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 4: a time? Gradual? I mean for you to become a legend.

526
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 4: There's so many kids that come up in the game

527
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 4: and they're a dime a dozen, but for you to

528
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 4: make a name like that was there was our first time.

529
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: It didn't happen overnight. I didn't really know the game,

530
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: you know, I had to learn how to sell cocaine. Yeah,

531
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: you know, and it was it was a process.

532
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: But you took it serious, clearly.

533
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: Very seriously. I mean I felt that, you know, Elie

534
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: time said that. I thought that it was God's gift

535
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: to me. I thought that was what a guy was like,

536
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: Oh I'm blessing you with this? Was that?

537
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: Was there a turning point? Like you ever have addiction

538
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: through that.

539
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 2: I did it for two weeks.

540
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did it two weeks. Said this is too good.

541
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: I got to get away from it.

542
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 2: Well, you know what we we started with an ounce.

543
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 2: I mean we had an ounce of cocaine. We I

544
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: was rich. This is when you probably could make at

545
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: that time off of twelve hundred bus.

546
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: Way more yeas nine thousand thousand.

547
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: Wow, I have a feeling of three fifty. And that

548
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: ship was.

549
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: Now you got a guy you gottat even think of that.

550
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: You got a guy who who you know, a couple

551
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: of months ago, weeks ago, didn't have gas money. The

552
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: gas was born on the galla. Sure, now he got.

553
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 3: Nine racks, huh quick? And back then nine racks went

554
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: a long way.

555
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

556
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: And our favorite restaurant at that time was Tackle Pezz right,

557
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: Tackle Pete. You get a brito fifty cent?

558
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: You're taking everybody out, everybody like that?

559
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: What's up, Ricky? You're leaving fifty cents for that too?

560
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: It was there was there a pivotal moment, you know

561
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: in that movie with Johnny Depp Blow, he meets the

562
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 4: dude in prison that became his connect. Was there a

563
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 4: main connect to put you on the map or was

564
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 4: it just kind of grinding out?

565
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: I found out that I learned how to build connects.

566
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 6: Wow, that was your superpower you could build.

567
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: I mean, you could take a person who's just a

568
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: mediocre guy but knows the people, and if you keep

569
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: running that money to him, pretty soon he becomes the.

570
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: Man and started knowing how to build people. Yeah, I

571
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: learned how to build them, and you're doing that today

572
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: and your businesses.

573
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: Absolutely everything that I do, I try to build people up,

574
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: you know, make them bigger, because the more big people

575
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: you have around you, then the bigger you are.

576
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

577
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: So you started to when did it start to get

578
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: to like, you know, from the ounce level. You know,

579
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: now it goes up to the quarter pounds fast, you know,

580
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: like kilos.

581
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: You know.

582
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: What I found out is is it was hard to

583
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: get to an ounce, but once you get there, it.

584
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: Was easy to go. It's like your first million.

585
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: The next ounce is easy to get. And I went

586
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: from one ounce to five ounces to ten ounces, and

587
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 2: then now I want to get to a pound. You know,

588
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: that pound was hard to get to, but then once

589
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: I hit the pound and it was thirty pounds, and

590
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: then I finally, finally somebody tipped me off of bikilos. Hey, man,

591
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: they've been beating you out of four ounces. Every every

592
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: time you buy two pounds, you lose four hourceswounds. Give

593
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: me my sixteen hours. So and they was like, oh, no,

594
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: they've been beating you out of them for four ounces.

595
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: And I was like, he beat me out of four ounces.

596
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: You're talking about two thousand dollars a piece. So when

597
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: I turned that around, I started making a live money. Yeah,

598
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: and then I got to the point to where I

599
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 2: would buy connections. You know. I would go to the

600
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: guy and be like, man, you really don't want to

601
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: be in this business. We give you sixty thousand dollars

602
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: to walk away, and guys would take it.

603
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, You're you're buying the source of the clientele,

604
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: the source, So you're consolidating sources.

605
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: I already had. I already had the contail. What what what

606
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: I did with the client tail is I had these

607
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: step up houses where if you only have fifty dollars,

608
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: you would go to this house, but if you started

609
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: to by, like, guys would come there with one thousand

610
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: dollars buying fifty dollars rocks, right, And so that guy.

611
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: My guys in the house would use to the next

612
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: house and be like, okay, you you you.

613
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: Just stepped up your game.

614
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: Step up the game.

615
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: You moved up to the big league.

616
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: And they would do that until the guys would even

617
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: get big enough to come and meet me.

618
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Sure, that's the step up.

619
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: I would have oounce houses, half pounced houses, eight houses,

620
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: quarter pound houses. So this system would allow people to

621
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: step elevate.

622
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: You know.

623
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: Basically what I what I tried to do was the

624
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: things that I know would have benefited me when I

625
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: was coming up that I wanted. Then I gave that

626
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: type of access to it to.

627
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: You motivated bad behavior, not a bad thing. I mean,

628
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: it's a business model. You know.

629
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: On the seminars says stem or personal development, we call

630
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: it the ascension model.

631
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: Well, you know, but that's what happens. But that's what

632
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: happens when when you leave people behind.

633
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah you got you got to make room for everybody.

634
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well said, they're gonna find a way.

635
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: To catch up. Yeah, whatever that looks like.

636
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: So you got them stepping up and then in the houses,

637
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: and then so they finally meet you, and then you

638
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: would start.

639
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: To move keys to them. Correct right, and then and

640
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: then how many of those folks did you have on

641
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: the block? Give us a scale of how big that was.

642
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: Oh, no, it was it was big, man, I don't know,

643
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: fifty sixty people. Yeah, you know, yeah, people coming from

644
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: all over the country. Yeah, because they come to La

645
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: to get LA was the spot. Yeah, yeah, come to

646
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: La to get.

647
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: What they want to take it back to wherever they

648
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: were in Icago, the Midwest.

649
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

650
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: From a business standpoint, I'm really curious when you said

651
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 4: you were purchased the sources, So did you not have

652
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: enough volume coming af from your main source where you

653
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: have to acquire somebody else's sources you're trying to get

654
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: him out of the business.

655
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: Well, you never get.

656
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: Enough really, so the back then, like you could not

657
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: you could enough.

658
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: You can't get enough cocaine ship Yeah, that was getting

659
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: the cocaine was a problem.

660
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: And this is pre nine to eleven.

661
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: So you could literally coming in, you know, suitcases from

662
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 4: everywhere and you still could not get enough.

663
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: You could, but you know they were they were on

664
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: cocaine harder, they were on it harder thing than they

665
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: are now. The law enforcement has actually let up. Yeah,

666
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: you know, back then you go to jail for cocaine.

667
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: You ain't getting a bail, no, yeah, you're done.

668
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now now you get busted with an ounce and

669
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: give you a ticket, yeah yeah, Or I mean it

670
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: wasn't like that, right.

671
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: You busted with fifty kilos, they get your bail.

672
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, before they were taking you there.

673
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, you're not getting the bail. But you're twenty five,

674
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: you get you might start doing it.

675
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.

676
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: It would be like, yo, why do you want bail?

677
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not going anywhere.

678
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: You're not going nowhere.

679
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: I was explaining that, but I said, listen, you know

680
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't realize that when when I

681
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: was very young, I think the maximum life sentence was

682
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: like six or ten years, you know what I mean?

683
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: When when when for murder? You know, I mean my

684
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: my well, my family.

685
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: They caught some cases like that, you know, and and

686
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: they were doing like eight years on a fucking murder charts,

687
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Then and then it started

688
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: stepping up though, and all of a sudden they started

689
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: getting super.

690
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: Stre Incarceration became a business.

691
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: So now it's like exactly, it became it became a

692
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: public company.

693
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, they're publicly traded prisons right now.

694
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: And the only people could trade in it was judges

695
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: and prosecutors and police officers. So so they wanted a

696
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: business model a lot of time.

697
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: Well, if I'm not mistaken, though, back in that day,

698
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: were their police officers involved.

699
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: With I never had. You know, a lot of people

700
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: think because you know, I actually testified on some cops. Yeah,

701
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: and people think that they were on my payroll or

702
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: something like that. They weren't on my prayer road. No. No,

703
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: these were cops who the city had put together in

704
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: order to bring me down. And they got frustrated and

705
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: they started playing drugs.

706
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 6: The worst kind of crooked cops like you weren't pay.

707
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: They didn't get you.

708
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: They couldn't get me.

709
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: They couldn't get you, so they started to try to

710
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: get you.

711
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: They couldn't get a guy without a high school to ploma,

712
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: who had never read a book and didn't read the newspaper.

713
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: It was making more money than they were.

714
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: One day, they weren't patient enough to say, you know

715
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: why we keep raiding the houses in there no doping houses.

716
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: Because you're a one step ahead of them.

717
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: I was keeping the doping cars. You know, I had

718
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: learned from stealing cars had taught me about, so I

719
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: understood that if you put the dope in the trunk

720
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: of a car, you could park the car on the

721
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: street and nobody would mess with it more than I.

722
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's funny you say that, dude, I just got

723
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: the chills. Man.

724
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: So, so when I was I used to sell a

725
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: whole lot of wit, like a lot a lot, you know.

726
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: And and I used to to have in my trunks

727
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: outside the cars. I would put the weed out there,

728
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: thinking that or cash out in there. And I keeps

729
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: a little in the house, you know what I'm saying

730
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: to where if someone came in or whatever, they can

731
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: get something on me, like, okay, here's ten twenty racks,

732
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 3: thank you.

733
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: You you know, go away.

734
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: But you know, the majority of it was in vehicles

735
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: outside and I and I had alarms on all those vehicles,

736
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: so if the thing went off, I'd be in my

737
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: house and I and you know.

738
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: You could take them.

739
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: But I was all, yeah, but and I would be

740
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: in the perfect years.

741
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, back in the day the sat of arms,

742
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: remembery that you could lock your brakes.

743
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, push the whole car, push.

744
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: The thing in and the breaks would lock. So you

745
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: weren't still in that car.

746
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't going anywhere.

747
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't going anywhere.

748
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: You had the little the what's it called almost remember

749
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 3: what it was.

750
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: They had the one that did the steering wheel, and

751
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: then the one that did the LifeLock something not lifelong,

752
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: but you know it.

753
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about.

754
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, clearly it didn't work with ship because every

755
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 4: car I put it on I got stolen.

756
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, the cops was a way to do it.

757
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: The cops raised my house and the dopest in like

758
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: three houses down. Yeah, and they never even go nowhere

759
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: near the car.

760
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, that's amazing.

761
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: You know, they couldn't figure it out. Yeah, but they

762
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: were so impatient, you know, they didn't want to do

763
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: the investigation. They were lazy. Yeah, you know, you couldn't say,

764
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: you know what, we don't have to watch these guys

765
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 2: three or four days in a row, you know. I mean,

766
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: it went only took that because really with me, and

767
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: we wouldn't even taking that because I was selling dope

768
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: every day. But what we did is we changed our hours.

769
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: We knew during the middle of the days, you know,

770
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: the cops would be wide awake and active. So what

771
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 2: we used to do is we would wait till four

772
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: in the morning and that's when we'd be doing our

773
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: dope deals.

774
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: So when you really did get busted, right, I mean, well,

775
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 3: let's talk about this. How many times did you get

776
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: busted before you got really busted?

777
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Just once?

778
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: Well, I had I had drugs planning on me before, right,

779
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: and I went to jail football forty days for that

780
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: drugs running. They planned two kilos.

781
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: Oh that's that's a lot.

782
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: And back then it wasn't nice, nice little bit, but

783
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: that that wasn't all that they did, because what they

784
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: were doing was telling the judge and the courts. Other

785
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: times they saw me with bags and estimated kilos and

786
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: I did kilos this many kilos in the day and

787
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: and so all that was accumulating the kilos was just

788
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: kind of like evidence to say, okay, we'll see he

789
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: really has kilos. But most of the stuff that they

790
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 2: were saying was was was purebs.

791
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: They were just making their own story and knew who

792
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: you were. Somebody probably informed them or something. But they

793
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: didn't have anything on you because you were smart than that,

794
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: because why would you touch it if you have the

795
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: everybody else working for you.

796
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: And that's what the judge told him too. He told

797
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: him exactly that he was like this this particular night

798
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 2: that they give me, I couldn't get any drugs. Yeah,

799
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: like I wanted drugs bad, but I couldn't get them.

800
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: You know, I was feeding. But the man was like,

801
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: so we go play basketball. We finished playing basketball, and

802
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: all the fellas ain't making no money today either, so

803
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: everybody's at at my place. I got this tire shop,

804
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: or I self customed tires and wheels and radios and

805
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: all that stuff. So I'm passing by and I got

806
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 2: big glass windows and you can see all the guys

807
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: kneel down. I said, oh, they're in they're shooting dice.

808
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: So we pull up going, you know, see what they're doing.

809
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: I ain't at the guys a day. And uh so

810
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: when I get ready to leave, everybody leave the crap

811
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: game and walk me to the car. So the cops

812
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: are watching this night, so they followed me and I

813
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: look up and I see a car coming with no

814
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: lights on. And I tell my boy, I was like, man,

815
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: the car is coming behind us with no lights. So

816
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: he pulled his sporty fuur Magnumaz. He's like, man, I'm

817
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: gonna give it to him. And when they pull on

818
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: the side of us, we saw it was the police,

819
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: the sheriffs, and he was like, oh ship, that's Tomar.

820
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: Tomorrow was one who had just got him a detective.

821
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: So we got this high speech chase going. We high

822
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: speed chasing it through van Is.

823
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: Boulevard just because you have the pistol.

824
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: Really at that point, no, no, no, we ain't Crystal. We're

825
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: gonna be a pistol. Yeah, they're gonna play drugs and

826
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: we already know what they Yeah, they already been playing

827
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 2: drugs on like four or five my boys, right, so

828
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: so we know they they're gonna play drugs on you.

829
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: You're going to jail tonight.

830
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: The Rampart scandal.

831
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 4: I love how you can tell the story smiling like

832
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: you're smiling ear to ear, like this has not left

833
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: you with this like stain or this bitterness right like.

834
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: It was it was it was it was an adventure. Yeah,

835
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 2: you know, I look at it. Your story is part

836
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: of the game. You know when you play the game,

837
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: you know this all this comes with the game.

838
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what you're doing.

839
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: And I really got lucky. You know, if these guys

840
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't have done what they did, I probably when the

841
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: FIDS came in, I probably would have got caught with

842
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: way more five six hundred kilos a week.

843
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: Wow.

844
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I was already doing thirty fifty oh no,

845
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: no day a day.

846
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: So were you working with cartels? Were you working with

847
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean.

848
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: Was working with the nigger rocking connections?

849
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: Okay, he bought them all. I mean he literally brought

850
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: up all this. You can't get that much.

851
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 2: Were they were? They were part of the CIA. Yeah,

852
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: the Conscience was working with the CIA to fight the

853
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: world with the Garagua, and they were bringing drugs into America.

854
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: And that's why you were saying back then it was

855
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: a lot more lenient because they were looking the other way.

856
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: Right, it wasn't.

857
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: Leniate, It wasn't lenient. They were harder, but they were

858
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: allowing the drugs to come in. Right, They're more lenient

859
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: right now? Right now? You know, I see guys that

860
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 2: get caught with a hundred kilos and get a bill.

861
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: You know, they never would have gave us a bill.

862
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: When I got the two kilos they plan on me,

863
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 2: I didn't get a bail. My bill. When I finally

864
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: got a bill, it was a million bucks eight twenty five,

865
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: you know, a twenty five men and everything that you

866
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: put up for bill has to go in front of

867
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: the judge and has to be verified and tax paper.

868
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Did you get bailed out or no?

869
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: No, I wouind up beating the case?

870
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: Oh you did? How did you get the case?

871
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: So they were so I turned myself in right because

872
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: my mom she's like, boy, I'm all over the news,

873
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: armed and dangerous. They said, I shot at the cop.

874
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, it's just making up ship.

875
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 2: What happened. I jumped out of the car. The car

876
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: was was going. I'm speeding down the street, right, I

877
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: jam on the brakes before the car could come to

878
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: a stop. I jump out the car and run and

879
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: need a car. The car keep rolling.

880
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: He didn't the for them.

881
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: They wasn't that they were dumb. Dumb, So the cops

882
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: started shooting at me. Wow, so they shoot up all

883
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: the people houses? Oh no way, Yeah, they shot up

884
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: in people houses. Yeah, so he was shooting, that's where

885
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: to shoot back. Oh my god, but you had no

886
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: gunpowder on your hand? None? No gun? Wow, my boy

887
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: had a gun. But he never shot you know, I

888
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: never would have let him shoot, and he wouldn't have

889
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: shot without me.

890
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: Shoot at him.

891
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

892
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so was he running with you? Did he

893
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: go to the officer?

894
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: No, he he stopped the car.

895
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: He stopped the cars.

896
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: From the running.

897
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: I had to stop the car.

898
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: He stopped the car. So on the news that night,

899
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 2: I'm all on the news. We keep all in dangers

900
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: shot at cops and no, no.

901
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: Because they knew who you were.

902
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they already kne who I was.

903
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: Picture of you up and everything.

904
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: So Mom's called me, you're gonna turn your silf in.

905
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna kill you. I don't want you see you.

906
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: Did I really see you in jailed? And did?

907
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to turn my Is this where the

908
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: freeway moniker comes from with the avatar?

909
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: Like, where did that.

910
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: Not already been freeway before that?

911
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 4: Why because you always read on the freeway or you're

912
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: running from the cops or how that come from?

913
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: It came from when when I used to steal cars. Yeah,

914
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 2: steal cars on the side of the freeway after after

915
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: after No, that was before before my shop, before I

916
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: had the shop, I would strip cards, right, My mom

917
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: stayed like on a dead end you know, the freeways

918
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: right the house, so you don't really have much traffic

919
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: coming through the street, and so you know we take

920
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: a front end off or take a motor right there, Yeah,

921
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: right there on the spot, you know, unboded, you know,

922
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: when you're unvoting and nobody can really tell what's going on.

923
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: Once all the boats off, you just snatched your front

924
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: end off and drive it down the street. It So

925
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: that's how they started calling us freeway boys, the guys

926
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: at the street racers Jake Clayton who uh was a

927
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: big time lowrider. But yeah, so so the cops had

928
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: never they still had never saw me, so I turned

929
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: myself in. Now they sent me to the county Yell

930
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: no bill. The cops come to the county jail to see.

931
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: Me, the ones that just the detectives that just shot

932
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: at you.

933
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they come to see me, threatening your took me

934
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: in the back room off the record, right and and

935
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: interrogating me. Yeah. So when they got ready lead, it

936
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: was like you better not say nothing to your lawyer,

937
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: and they talked about my lawyer. Your lawyer is a

938
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: coke head, and uh, he can't get.

939
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: You off there, put hands on you or just strong interrogation.

940
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: They just roughed me up a little bit, you know,

941
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: letting you push you in real physical with these foods

942
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: recorded the whole thing. Oh wow, they recorded the whole thing.

943
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: That's how you beat the case.

944
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we go to court, and next time I

945
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: go to court, I didn't even tell my lawyer yeah

946
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: until we were sitting in the courtroom. So we sitting

947
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: in the court room, I was like, yeah, man, you

948
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: know them foods came down there and seeing me like

949
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: two weeks ago. He's like, huh yeah, he said yan,

950
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: And one of them was on the witness stand testifying.

951
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: He said, yanna. Uh. You know, I just found out

952
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: that they came and see my client. I wasn't notified

953
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: and I wasn't notified, and they actually cop that was understanding.

954
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: Did you guys come and see him? And he's like,

955
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: oh yeah, we was down there doing someone else and

956
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: we just stopped buying.

957
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Stop to say hi.

958
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: Then you know, he had a lawyer, He said, did

959
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: you did you record that that thing? You recalled everything?

960
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, came over where is it?

961
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: And they listened back to the spliced up.

962
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: That's how it spliced that thing up. It's mites. There's

963
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: two minutes of video death records that were like that

964
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: real remember that.

965
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: You know, he gave me a fort with wow. Judge

966
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: told him to get him out of here. I was

967
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: out of it. I was out of the countyes on like

968
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. That's like unheard of.

969
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: You're like, thank god I listen to Moms because she

970
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 4: told you herself there right.

971
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So at that point you started getting a little

972
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: you know, knowing that you're hot right clearly then you

973
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 3: already knew you were hot, but it was getting hotter.

974
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: Well, that's when I moved out of town. Okay, I

975
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: moved to Cincinnati. Then, Okay, I'd already been working in

976
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Saint Louis. I have been working in Texas,

977
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: but I cut my my cousins off in Texas.

978
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: We're getting too rough.

979
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: There was you know, we had some different shits, a

980
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: different animal boy, you know, you know, you.

981
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 2: Know, I mean like this here. I hate when I

982
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: read on somebody and then all of a sudden they

983
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: come to life, and then you know, they get a

984
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: couple million dollars and they'd be like a.

985
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: Guy who brought you to the dance.

986
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 4: Speaking a couple of million dollars during this entire time period.

987
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 4: Did you diversify You mentioned the tire shop. I love

988
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: talking about money, but were you were you thinking of

989
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: had you seem like a very smart businessman.

990
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: Were you already thinking about that? I was planning some scenes.

991
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: I was ahead of the game.

992
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: I was.

993
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: I was same thing I did in the in the

994
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: in the in the coked business, I started to do

995
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: in real estate. I paid a guy to introduce me

996
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: to a guy by the name of Bill Little. Most

997
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: people never heard of him, but he used to own

998
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: He used to be one of the biggest landowners in

999
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: in downtown LA. Maybe the biggest landowner in downtown LA.

1000
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: In California, I think he was second behind like vib

1001
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: Hope with somebody Wow. So I paid a guy, I

1002
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: think I bought the guy house. It was like one

1003
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five thousand, uh and this was like

1004
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: eighty five eighty six wow, to take me to his

1005
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: house and and induce me to him. So I had

1006
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: already started buying real estate.

1007
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: Mentors.

1008
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 4: You bought real estate sources like you did in the

1009
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 4: streets with the cocaine, Like you recognized opportunity and you

1010
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: got yourself in you bought mentors.

1011
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: But when I meet these guys, when I meet them

1012
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: eight months later, I'm in jail. So I never really

1013
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: got to use the tool, the tool tourist fullest. But

1014
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: I learned enough game that right now today, once once,

1015
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: once I get back re established, uh, I'm gonna be

1016
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: a monster in real estate.

1017
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: So so so when when you when you actually you know,

1018
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: went from California to Cincinnati, you know, was it that

1019
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: the Feds were following you or was it that.

1020
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: The local cops that ran me out?

1021
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: The local.

1022
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 2: But they didn't follow me. What happened is is after

1023
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: I got out of prison, I had drugs actually planning

1024
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 2: on you.

1025
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: Eight ball shooting at you.

1026
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: I shot at them.

1027
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big game on.

1028
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: So I was like, it makes sense to stay here

1029
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: getting out with these guys just mad at you. Why

1030
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: not go somewhere with the drugs. At that time in Cincinnati,

1031
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: keilo was sixty.

1032
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Four thousand, and you already had clients there.

1033
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: I already had clients, and I was getting kilos twelve.

1034
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: You knew how to get it there eleven ten. Yeah,

1035
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: So if I took a kilo to to Cincinnati, I

1036
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: make fifty thousand profit. Wow, even though they may not

1037
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: buy one hundred kilos in one day like they was

1038
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: doing here. So when I went to when I went

1039
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: to Cincinnati, Uh, when I really had it cracking, I

1040
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: was doing about fifty kilos a day, I mean a

1041
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: month a month, my bad month, I was doing about

1042
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: I was doing about fifty key grew and I was

1043
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 2: making about twenty thousand. So I was doing a smaller mount.

1044
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: I was doing a smaller.

1045
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Mount of drugs.

1046
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: But I made a lot of money. Yeah, you know

1047
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: from California. I was going to make.

1048
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: Right prof that's what you had.

1049
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Natty. Now I'm making a great crop

1050
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: and you know, to be to be KOs and I

1051
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 2: got work.

1052
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Through that should change my name. We're just playing, you

1053
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: know with that. You know, so so now you know

1054
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: now I'm thinking, you know, I want to know what

1055
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: it was that how you got busted in Cincinnati. Canna

1056
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: start going to one went when come back?

1057
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,520
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1064
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1065
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1066
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1067
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1068
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1069
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1070
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1071
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1072
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,839
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1073
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1074
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 4: or please call him direct two one four four four

1075
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: six fifty three hundred.

1076
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: I care with my man, Ricky.

1077
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 4: You had one more question for him, and we're gonna

1078
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 4: go in a different direction here, But man, I got

1079
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 4: so many questions.

1080
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: Now, this is one of the coolest interviews I've done.

1081
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that, like so how did you

1082
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: get busted?

1083
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1084
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: Like in Cincinnati? Like what was like they called you

1085
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: from La No, it was straight through, straight through. I had.

1086
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: My suppliers had had went overseas so they wasn't working.

1087
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: So I fly out to California and I grabbed nine

1088
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: kilos and I have a guy, well I had more

1089
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: than nine, but I had each guy getting on the

1090
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: bus with nine kilos at the time. This one guy

1091
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: got on the bus and somebody was smoking weed on

1092
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: the bus. So the cops discovered the nine kilos and

1093
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: my guy who was carrying him, he jumped off the

1094
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: bus and got away, but he never contacted us and

1095
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: told us that the cops had confiscated the kilos. So

1096
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: the time that the bus was supposed to get there,

1097
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: I was going to pick him up. So I go

1098
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: to the bus station and it just so happened my

1099
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: beaper falls off, so I don't go inside. But my

1100
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: other guy walks inside the bus station and he was

1101
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: asking where the bus from l A was coming coming

1102
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: in and where was it at, and the Feds grabbed me.

1103
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: So I walk in the door and I see the

1104
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: Feds got him surrounded.

1105
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: I took off he just walked away and burned out.

1106
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: I burned out, so you know, I do everything I

1107
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: can to keep my man.

1108
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: And this it was.

1109
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: It was really bizarre to me because this guy never

1110
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: should have went to prison. He never saw the bag.

1111
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 2: He didn't know what the bag looked like. The only

1112
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: thing he knew was that the guy was coming in

1113
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 2: from l A. So they said that he inquired about

1114
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 2: the bag and was total bullshit.

1115
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: You know, he said that was a fluke.

1116
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: So they were able to pin him to me because

1117
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: he was from my neighborhood. And you know how it's

1118
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: like they do with gangs, like if you grew up

1119
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: in this area, you with.

1120
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: This association, Yeah, this is your Yeah, you know you

1121
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: live on the West Side from the you know exactly

1122
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: the Crimpshall team, you know, like they.

1123
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: Know, probably Cincinnati cops. It was like a Cincinnati cops.

1124
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: It was probably like a badge of honor to nail

1125
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 4: somebody from l A.

1126
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: I imagine where the sheriffs came down after they found

1127
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: out he was from la the ones who planned the drugs,

1128
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: they brought him down so and then they they tended

1129
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: the case in Cincinnati. Okay, Cincinnati would have really they

1130
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 2: could have get I was doing fifty kilos a month.

1131
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: My diatman said fifty kilos and more month. That's what

1132
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 2: it said on my more. Yeah, fifty or more later,

1133
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: But they knew I was doing at least fifty. I

1134
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 2: just went with their number.

1135
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that part.

1136
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: So after I couldn't get him out of jail, you know,

1137
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of money trying to keep him

1138
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: out of jail. He went to jail, and next thing

1139
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: I know, uh, they inded of me. I had a

1140
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: secret indictment, okay, and they eventually caught me.

1141
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now we're at the federal level.

1142
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fit and the Feds.

1143
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: Actually, he'll take you down then.

1144
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Never the state, I've never uh my Laurie was

1145
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 2: always able to beat the state.

1146
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then on on on on the federal level.

1147
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: You know, did you see a lot of that collapsing

1148
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: because of the cartels and everybody else that was involved

1149
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: that you were you a part of that that case

1150
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 3: when they all kind of got the contras got you know, yeah,

1151
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: I was.

1152
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: I was a center of that.

1153
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

1154
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was my story that Gary Webb from

1155
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: the center'sd a Mercury by Yeah, Uh, he linked me

1156
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: in and my drug supplier, who also was my informant. Right,

1157
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: he put us together, gotcha, and that's when you know,

1158
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: all hell broke loose. You know, my whole life changed.

1159
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: You know, I was in front of cameras every day,

1160
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: and Maxie Waters in jail. I was in jail.

1161
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just showing up with cameras at you

1162
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: every day.

1163
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: Every day, every day. This is before h nine eleven.

1164
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: You know, after nine eleven they stopped letting the news

1165
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: media talk to the inmates. Like right now, it's hard

1166
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: for a news reporter to talk to an inmate, But

1167
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: at that time, they gave you total access to the media.

1168
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: Maxiine workers came down to see me, the oy g

1169
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: from c i A. I mean, everybody was coming down.

1170
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was all over the news.

1171
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

1172
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 4: It was crazy because they're also building a name off you.

1173
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 4: I mean by aligning themselves with you, they're also kind

1174
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: of getting notoriety.

1175
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: But they was trying to clear you know, the c

1176
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: IA was trying to clear their name. They didn't want

1177
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: to be known as drug dealers. You know, they were

1178
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: supposed to keep drugs out of the country, but now

1179
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: they were.

1180
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: They were right in the middle of it.

1181
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah they turned the blind eye. Oh you go ahead,

1182
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: I didn't see that.

1183
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were getting paid, they were getting paid.

1184
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know Bush. I mean this went all

1185
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: the way up to the White House, Bush, Reagan, Bush

1186
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: and Reagan was also implemented. And remember Ali North, yeah

1187
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 2: the fifth and say the book stops for him. You know,

1188
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: you ain't going no higher.

1189
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: To me, I think a lot of the younger generation

1190
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 4: has no idea about this gap of American drug history,

1191
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 4: whether it's the around Contra affair Alie North, and then

1192
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 4: they're the incarceration system that got developed after that where

1193
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 4: it became a business.

1194
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 6: And that's a whole other conversation. I'm sure you can

1195
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 6: speak to.

1196
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: That absolutely for sure. I was there when Unicorp you

1197
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: know you lived it. Give guys twenty five an hour

1198
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: to do jobs that out here to get you know,

1199
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: thirty forty an hour to do.

1200
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 4: Wow, dude, this is all like the negative shit and

1201
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 4: the bad part. And I mean we could talk about

1202
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: this for years, but I am so excited to hear

1203
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: about how you now have turned this chapter. And one

1204
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 4: of my mentors always told me when I had my

1205
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 4: you know, you don't know my story, but I you know,

1206
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 4: my partner went to prison. I helped put him in

1207
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 4: prison for robbing people in the Ponzi scheme. And to

1208
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: me that was like, you're robbing little old ladies. And

1209
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: when I hit rock bottom because I lost everything, my

1210
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 4: mentor said, listen, man, at least you're not in prison.

1211
00:54:59,239 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1212
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: I agel, I've been in prison twice. I'm a double phone.

1213
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: And now I got all these cars and I go

1214
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 4: all this, what's your fucking excuse? And I was like,

1215
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 4: all right, like double fellon. Guy's got a life, and

1216
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 4: now he's got a massive personal development story and massive

1217
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: you know, uh public speaking. Except all the stuff that

1218
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 4: I read about you, I want to hear about that

1219
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 4: on what you're doing to now you know, spread the

1220
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: story not from an entertainment value, but you're empowering kids

1221
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 4: to hear the story. Man be like, man, if this

1222
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: guy can do it, I can without all that pain.

1223
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: Well, I felt it was. It was so important, you know,

1224
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 2: for people to know that the same energies, techniques, strategies

1225
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: that we use in the streets can be using any

1226
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: field that you go into, you know. And and one

1227
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: of my goals now is to demonstrate just how many

1228
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: different businesses that using these same strategies we can run,

1229
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, and I've spoke with so many juvenile intentions

1230
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: is around around the country. Last year, I spoke at

1231
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: uh downtown l A. What's what's the name of that

1232
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: did juve and I Hall I did. I did their graduation.

1233
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: I was a keynote speaker for their graduation.

1234
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: Did you ever spend time there? Or it was just

1235
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: something that because.

1236
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: It was just something that they called me and asked me,

1237
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: and they thought that it would be good for the

1238
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: kids to hear.

1239
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 3: The kids can some of them are drug drug dealers.

1240
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: Some of them, you know, have had criminal backgrounds in

1241
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 3: one of their parents. So they want to relate to

1242
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: some of the not to somebody that they ain't never seen,

1243
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: nothing like that.

1244
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy coming there with a suit, he went

1245
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: to collge. You ain't from us, you don't know, you

1246
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: don't know what it's like. But somebody like me who

1247
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: couldn't read, Yeah, they get it. They have and I

1248
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: can tell too, you know, like I love. I don't

1249
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: know why they haven't hired me to go from prison

1250
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: to prison and jail to jail. And and and talk

1251
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: to these guys because a lot of these guys read

1252
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: the newspapers and they hear what I'm out here doing

1253
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: and they would like to implement the same strategy.

1254
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm too cynical, but I think there there's a

1255
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 4: reason for that, because there's profit and keep people, you know,

1256
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: keeping people incarcerated, and I think I think they don't

1257
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: want to spread positivity in that system. It's not they

1258
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 4: call it correction facilities. They're not fucking correcting anything. It's

1259
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: gladiator school. They're coming out out stronger with more connections,

1260
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 4: coming out right.

1261
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely put you in there, you know, you in there

1262
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: with the carteil and said they're coming out with the

1263
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: bigger rolodex right exactly.

1264
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: You also got something that was that Esquire magazine that

1265
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 1: I was reading about.

1266
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, eight off anniversary to be to be exact,

1267
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: they did a feature story on me and said that

1268
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: my story was the biggest story for the past eighty years.

1269
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: Man. Congratulations, man, that's so huge.

1270
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: I did that. And then you know, we had the

1271
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: documentary that was on Netflix. How what was that called

1272
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: Cracking the System Freeway Cracking the System.

1273
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 4: And in my book, you know, you know, that was

1274
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: on there for a couple of years, right, like Netflix

1275
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: kept out of rotation for a minute.

1276
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1277
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: I was on the front page for a year and

1278
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: a half every time they were on Netflix. You see

1279
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: my ugly face? Yeah.

1280
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: So what was the name of that one again?

1281
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: Freeway Cracking the System?

1282
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: And I think you mentioned something else, Oh your two

1283
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: books books?

1284
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: I got Freeway Free, Ricky rossun Told autobiography, which is

1285
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: done super should be on everybody's best sellers list. I

1286
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: don't I don't know why. ELI Times finally finally did

1287
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: a story around last year. Yeah. They said they read

1288
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: like a spasacean movie.

1289
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

1290
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: And then I got to twenty one Keys to Success

1291
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: and that's about my first six months out of prison.

1292
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: You know the things that I had to go through,

1293
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: uh to get to where I am now. I just

1294
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: shot another documentary with v H One should be coming

1295
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: out soon. I don't know the date. We're in pre

1296
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: production right now for the motion picture. Matter of fact,

1297
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: we're going with the producers and the directors. Tonight they're

1298
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: doing Kevin Hart released for one of his new movies.

1299
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: Who's playing you in the feature as that you're not

1300
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: playing yourself?

1301
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to be a movie star. I'm hoping.

1302
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: We haven't picked the actor yet, but I'm hoping I

1303
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: can get Childish Gambino too.

1304
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: Okay, who's your backup if that doesn't work? Kevin Hart?

1305
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: Kevin. We talked about it before, about him playing.

1306
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: Kevin and making shitty tennis player. Though sure makes me

1307
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: look bad.

1308
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm taller than that.

1309
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got buy a few feet So that's in

1310
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: pre production right now.

1311
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: You're ready to go, Michael, Mike Hold is the director now,

1312
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: Mike Hold the director A couple of months back. What

1313
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: else I got going? The dispensary, Yeah, the dispensary Las Kingpin.

1314
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: You only look out for that. We're hoping in the

1315
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: next three maybe four weeks and had it open.

1316
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: Where is that going to be?

1317
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: Uh? Some valley okay by brank Airport?

1318
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get did you get a license in

1319
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Speaker 1: your name?

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Speaker 2: Was it the it's my name? I went on as

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Speaker 2: social equity? Did you I spoke to city council.

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Speaker 1: You know miss Brown? You know miss Brown?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: What's your name? Brown? Doctor Boxer? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do know doctor. I know doctor.

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Speaker 1: She's good people. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I spoke uh downtown l A for why they

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Speaker 2: should allow convicted felons to get a license, and also

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Speaker 2: up in Oakland to uh I can't think of her name,

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Speaker 2: but she was the state representative. I spoke to her

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Speaker 2: about why convicted felons should be allowed to get in

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Speaker 2: this business. You know, I'm like, if it wasn't for us,

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't be legal right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when is that opening or is it already opening.

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Speaker 2: We're hoping to be opening like three to four weeks

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Speaker 2: past everything. We got our state licensed city license. We

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Speaker 2: just passed the fire department. Uh So we're hoping here

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Speaker 2: in the next few weeks to get that up and going.

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Speaker 4: If you had one message to somebody listening right now,

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Speaker 4: who's on the edge, you know, they're moving some weight

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Speaker 4: and they're they're on they're on the illegal side. If

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Speaker 4: you will, is there a message that you're looking at them,

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Speaker 4: looking at yourself that you would kind of deliver to

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Speaker 4: them hard to heart.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the same energies, the same efforts that

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Speaker 2: we put into the illegal side. If we put that

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Speaker 2: same energy and effort into the legal side, we have

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Speaker 2: some of the same results. You know, sometimes a little

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Speaker 2: it's a little harder with with with the legal side,

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01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: because they put you through you know, these guys put

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01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: you through the through the through the ringer, and that's

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01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: why the black market, you know, cannabis is still thriving

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01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: and in so many other drugs.

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Speaker 3: My dad always told me that it takes the same

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Speaker 3: amount of energy it is to do it wrong, is

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Speaker 3: it does do it right, exactly right. And I believe that,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I didn't believe that when I was young.

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01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 3: I was like, nah, but you know, and and and

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Speaker 3: it's true. It's like it just focused on doing it

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Speaker 3: the right way, and it's the same.

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Speaker 1: Amount of energy, you know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You know, you focus on the wrong things, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get dude.

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Speaker 4: The biggest thing that strikes me about this interview, man,

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01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 4: is like, I've met a lot of people that have

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01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 4: gone through shit trials, tribulations to have drugs planted on

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Speaker 4: you by police officers, right, And I want to know

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Speaker 4: why you don't have a chip on your shoulder. You

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 4: see so many people using that as an excuse why

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01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: they want to continue living wrong or they want to

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01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 4: still fuck with the police. For you, you kind of

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Speaker 4: like you still smile through all of this you've lived it.

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01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 4: But for somebody that's gone through shit, you're like, it

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01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 4: seems like you've kind of overcome something and you've seen

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01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 4: a light. What is it about your story that makes

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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 4: you kind of so positive about it?

1377
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: Well, you know, if somebody does something to you, you

1378
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: may still be mad. But they did and they're going

1379
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: on about their business. Now you still run around mad

1380
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: and they don't pay it no mind. They forgot So

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01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: I look at it. It's better to give and move on.

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01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: Calle the future. I'm more of a future guy, you know,

1383
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: Like people ask me what happened last week. I don't

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01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: know what happened last week, but I can tell you

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01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen.

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01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: The next week. Yeah, I'm really good at it. I

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01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: love that output, man.

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01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: And it's not even about politics, but I think that

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01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 4: lately there's that victim mentality that it's almost like they're

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01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 4: giving you these kids like you're a victim.

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01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: You're a victim.

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01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 4: But a lot of people that are coming up like

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 4: we all did, like we didn't have silver spoons in

1394
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 4: our mouths, right, but to come out and to kind

1395
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 4: of say, you know what, fuck it, it's in the past.

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Speaker 1: I fucked over.

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Speaker 4: But I'm going to look forward to the future, and

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 4: I have all these opportunities and possibilities.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times you got to say, I fucked

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: myself the personal responsibility. I put myself in a situation.

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01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 2: But that to happen to me, Yeah, yeah, you know,

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01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 2: because a lot of times we allow people, you know,

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01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: even like with the guy who set me up, I

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01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: understand that he couldn't have set me up.

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01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: If I didn't take a good part. Yeah, I didn't

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01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: take a bait.

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: He couldn't have set me up. I had to.

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01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: I had to.

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01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: I had the option to say no right and walk away,

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: but I didn't.

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Speaker 4: You've banked a lifetime of good karma, man coming up,

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01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 4: and I think, I think that what's happening to you

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01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 4: right now with the movies and the fun stuff now

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01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 4: that books the movies, and it's fun of being on stage.

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01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: So much fun, so good I've been. I've been like

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Speaker 2: six cities in the past week and a half.

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Speaker 4: Well let's let's let's make it more. You know, I

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01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 4: got a couple of events coming up that I'm producing.

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01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 4: Person the Blue is going to be speaking at them.

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01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 4: I personally, I'm telling you right now, I would love

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01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 4: to be honored either say to you speak out to

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01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 4: our people business standpoint, from a money standpoint, from just

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01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 4: personal development. I think everybody right now, especially into this

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01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 4: next twelve months, it's going to be a struggle season.

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01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 4: You know, people are gonna be a hurt financial out here,

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01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 4: and there's there's the easy races, and there's ways to

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01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 4: to kind of, you know, do things legitimately. If people

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01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 4: want to come find you, support you outside of the

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01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 4: dispensary and the movies and the books.

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Speaker 2: What's the best way to find you on socials? Uh,

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Speaker 2: they can give me a freeway Ricky Ross on Facebook

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01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: and freeway Rick on Instagram and freeway Rick on Twitter.

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01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 4: And if you're looking for booking, yeah, absolutely, you got

1434
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: a great rep that kind of helped you to find

1435
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 4: you and break you. Guys reach out to her her

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01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 4: Instagram as a N G E E, S M, A

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01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 4: L t Z or just yeah, man, I'll put you

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01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 4: in touch because my eyes can't read that well. But

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Speaker 4: seven one four five she did say that I could

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01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 4: give her number out seven one four two five one

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Speaker 4: seventeen fifty two.

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01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? They missed it because you want here.

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Speaker 2: Seven one.

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Speaker 1: Fifty two.

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Speaker 4: But man, I I can't this is one of the

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01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 4: best interviews I've done. I'm super excited.

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Speaker 3: Ablue what you got to add on, you know, I

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01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 3: just I just want to say, man, thank you for

1449
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 3: taking the time to share your story, you know, because

1450
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 3: you know it isn't it about us.

1451
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: It's about the pew that we touched through our platform,

1452
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: like we appreciate it. You know.

1453
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: This is what we do for a living and you

1454
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 3: know it too. It's just what you do, you know,

1455
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: and when you live that certain way. It's just nice

1456
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 3: to be able to get it out to so many people.

1457
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: Because again, if just one person here's this story and goes, man,

1458
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm living that way right now, and I could I

1459
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: could change your or I could find it, you know,

1460
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: do it the right way instead of the wrong way.

1461
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 3: I find that one message or or they they're in

1462
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: a position where they don't have to take de bait

1463
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: right now because they're like, you know what I.

1464
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: Heard that I'm giving no time and the vulnerability, man,

1465
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: the authenticity is there. It's just it's just bores right

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01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: for you. Man, It's something that.

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01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 4: There's a reason you're being successful on stage, in the

1468
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: books and anything else that we forgot man.

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01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: That you want to resume money and I've just had

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Speaker 2: a good time with you guys today.

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Speaker 1: You're coming back, Man, you're coming back. I can't wait

1472
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: to get you on my show. Anything else.

1473
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm so busy. I'm believable. How busy are you?

1474
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna be a regular here. I could tell. I'm

1475
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: with you said, it's like I made it here.

1476
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 7: It was.

1477
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny once you come here on family.

1478
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: So we have some nice events and fun fun times. Well,

1479
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: this way we can brok them on. Thank you for

1480
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: being on Cannabis Talk one on one. It's always a pleasure.

1481
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: Man. Oh, thank you so much.

1482
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: But there it is. Guys, It's Cannabis Talk one on one.

1483
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: And remember this, if no one else loves you.

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01:06:59,240 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 3: We do.

1485
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,760
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01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,360
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01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,280
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