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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio doctor Orloff.

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Speaker 2: I had an email I wanted to read from a

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Speaker 2: listener and maybe get your take on it. One person said,

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Speaker 2: I have symptoms for different things vertigo more sense, vertigo

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Speaker 2: for seismic activity, which is interesting. Do you find that

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Speaker 2: there are certain things that are triggered with people in

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Speaker 2: tune that give them an idea that something's about to happen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. I feel that certain people are able to

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Speaker 3: pick up certain geological events before they happen, because they're

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Speaker 3: able to sense the frequencies the seismic activity in this case,

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Speaker 3: before it happens. And this happens frequently with weather events

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Speaker 3: where people will get headaches or feel agitated, for instance,

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Speaker 3: with the full moon that's a good example, and the

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Speaker 3: emergency rooms are filled with people on the night of

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Speaker 3: the full moon. And so it just depends on what

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Speaker 3: you react to. But you can ask yourself, do I

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Speaker 3: get a mood change on the night of the full moon?

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Speaker 3: Do I pick up earthquakes? Do I pick up storms?

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Speaker 3: Do I pick up when there's going to be a

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Speaker 3: natural catastrophe? That's common as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you know people they say after they have

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Speaker 2: let's say hip or knee surgery, they can tell when

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Speaker 2: a storm is coming. That's a little bit different than

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Speaker 2: what you're describing, or is it a similar sensation.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a similar sensation. Intuition can come through

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Speaker 3: the body, and the body is an intuitive receptor, and

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Speaker 3: so if you're sensitive to whether you can get and

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Speaker 3: if a preview of it before it actually comes, you

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Speaker 3: can get an intuitive flash or the sense that the

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Speaker 3: seasons are changing. That's a good intuition where you have

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Speaker 3: a sense that things are changing and it's just the

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Speaker 3: way the wind blows at that particular moment where you

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Speaker 3: get information about that. And so intuitive adults and children

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Speaker 3: are very sensitive to the weather. No very to to

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Speaker 3: changes or thunderstorms or fires or anything that hot cold,

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Speaker 3: Any dramatic changes tends to register, you know, in a

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Speaker 3: child or an adult, and so that that's part of

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Speaker 3: intuition to be aware of in yourselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing you mentioned in the first part of

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Speaker 2: the interview, the cultural side of things. Are some cultures

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Speaker 2: embracing this better than others, Meaning here in the United States,

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Speaker 2: when we think about, you know, sensitivity, it's almost looked

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Speaker 2: at as some sort of weakness. Are other cultures looking

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Speaker 2: at it in an opposite way?

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Speaker 4: And if they are, what cultures embrace this.

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Speaker 3: Oh very much? So well. The Aboriginal culture embraces so

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Speaker 3: much so that they believe that dream time is more

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Speaker 3: real than waking life, and so they honor it in

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Speaker 3: that way. You see, we're so engaged with waking life

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Speaker 3: and intellectual experience of everything versus the heart centered experiences

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Speaker 3: of things that we don't incorporate that so much, you know,

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Speaker 3: into our culture, although of course there are all kinds

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Speaker 3: of exceptions in spiritual communities and intuitive communities where this

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Speaker 3: is just accepted, and also in Native cultures and indigenous

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Speaker 3: cultures where dreaming and intuition is just part of coming

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Speaker 3: into one's power and it's just part of how one is,

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Speaker 3: and the relationship to the earth is highly valued versus

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Speaker 3: what's happening in our culture, where it isn't. In a

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Speaker 3: large group of you know, political people, it's not valued

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Speaker 3: at all, really, and that it couldn't be possible in

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Speaker 3: indigenous cultures because mother Earth is so much a part

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Speaker 3: of life and it's something to respect and we're here

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Speaker 3: there's a course of certain arrogance in those who don't

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Speaker 3: believe that, you know, and they believe harm the earth.

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Speaker 3: And it's all right. I know when you when you

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Speaker 3: just said that that it felt like an EmPATH reaction,

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Speaker 3: you know, it felt like you know you, you know,

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Speaker 3: it really went through you know, and your being in

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Speaker 2: The Well, here's what I find, at least for me personally,

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Speaker 2: And maybe you can tell me if I'm a typical

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Speaker 2: type of person that you talk to, because I work

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Speaker 2: stories that I, like I said before, there's a valve

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Speaker 2: and for some reason, you got to show off the

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Speaker 2: It would make it nearly impossible to not only work

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Speaker 2: what I find. When you come home, you have to

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Speaker 2: almost be that firewall for your kids to make sure

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Speaker 2: feel like it's part of your duty to absorb those

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Speaker 3: Ah, But I think they will absorb it if they're

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Speaker 3: open to them, and so they need And my heart

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Speaker 3: goes out to you, and I understand the love of

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Speaker 3: though the father or the mother can't really do that

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Speaker 3: because the kids absorb it themselves. I mean, you could

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Speaker 3: certainly limit the input that comes in the house, but

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Speaker 3: how could I describe this. It's like when you're a

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Speaker 3: highly sensitive child or adult, it's like holding something with

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Speaker 3: fifty fingers instead of five. You have that's interesting, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and intuitive receptors, so you feel everything so intensely, and

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Speaker 3: that can lead to sensory overwhelm in children and adults,

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Speaker 3: and it's a very painful experience. And so that's why

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Speaker 3: I think it's important for children now to teach them

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Speaker 3: to breathe, to meditate, to calm down, or to say

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Speaker 3: I need my alone time, no or anything to find

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Speaker 3: to find out what will calm them down and honor

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Speaker 3: that and help them learn these skills of setting boundaries.

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Speaker 3: Sensitive kids, their heart goes out to all the other

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Speaker 3: and that can be a bit much, and they experience

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Speaker 3: it as sensory overload. And so it's important for parents

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Speaker 3: which is what happens to kids. They you know, are

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Speaker 3: they become people's therapists, and they become the parents therapists,

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Speaker 3: they use them in that capacity, which isn't right. And

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Speaker 3: so work with parents, you know, I suggest that that's

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Speaker 3: not the right thing, and for them to have an

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Speaker 3: outlet for their emotional work other than their children. But

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Speaker 3: the child will listen. And so that's why it's important

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Speaker 3: that the child learns how to set a boundary and

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Speaker 3: to say I could only you know, listen for a

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Speaker 3: you know, or whatever. However, they can tactually detach from

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Speaker 4: So is there an opposite to this?

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Speaker 1: Is there?

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Speaker 4: I see the term dark empaths? Is there? I guess

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Speaker 4: maybe I should ask what is that?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a term that's been going around the internet

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Speaker 3: kind of EmPATH that doesn't have good intent and that

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Speaker 3: drains you. I think it's purposely and is more of

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Speaker 3: a narcissist than an EmPATH, somebody who lacks empathy. And

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Speaker 3: so that's what people say. And then they're talking about

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Speaker 3: dark empaths and empaths with dark energy. And my experience

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Speaker 3: of that isn't so much that it's dark energy. It's

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Speaker 3: that there's so much trauma in the person and there's

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Speaker 3: so much discomfort that other people interpret it as pain

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Speaker 3: it's worthwhile to rethink that. You know, in terms of

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Speaker 3: their needs met, they can be perceived as quote needy

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Speaker 3: what they're calling dark empaths. But I don't think that

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Speaker 3: empaths are narcissistic, just by nature of their open hearts. Now,

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Speaker 3: empaths have an open heart. They love people, they love nature,

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Speaker 3: they love animals, you know, and you know, they get

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Speaker 3: they need to have the right help so that they

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Speaker 3: can feel better inside their own skin. And a lot

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Speaker 3: of empaths feel like they don't belong to the world.

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Speaker 3: That's a common When I was little, I had a

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Speaker 3: fantasy that an alien would come and land in my

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a movie, but I think that's you know,

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Speaker 2: kids go through those type of emotions. Look as an adult,

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Speaker 2: you find that empaths have this sort of attraction to

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Speaker 2: the opposite.

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Speaker 4: Maybe narcissists, yes.

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Speaker 3: And the genius of empathy. I have a whole section

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Speaker 3: on the toxic attraction between narcissists and empaths, and unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: they do have an attraction. The narcissist, of course, loves

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Speaker 3: to be with the EmPATH because the EmPATH is giving

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Speaker 3: But the EmPATH, you know, believes in the beginning, in

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Speaker 3: narcissists will put on a very seductive front and you know,

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Speaker 3: the EmPATH falls for that, and what happens is that,

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Speaker 3: colors will come out where they become cold withholding punishing gaslight,

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Speaker 3: so I always suggest to my EmPATH patients to try

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Speaker 3: you know, just by saying I can't go with you tonight,

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Speaker 3: them to bring out their narcissism. So you can see it,

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Speaker 3: so hopefully you can make more informed decisions because narcissists

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Speaker 3: for empaths to grasp, but it's so true. And over

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Speaker 3: I found my soulmate and it turns out they're a narcissist,

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Speaker 3: and you know, they learned very hard lessons and it

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Speaker 3: takes it could take twenty five years to get out

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Speaker 3: to disconnect. But people do it. You know, they go

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Speaker 3: can heal them, and that's what I want to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think in today's world, and it's hard

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Speaker 2: to clump everyone together, but do you think there's more

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Speaker 2: empaths or do you think there's more narcissists today?

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Speaker 3: That's a really good question. Hopefully they are more and

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Speaker 3: more empaths, but it seems like we have just narcissists

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Speaker 4: Maybe we hide it better. I shouldn't say we, as

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Speaker 4: in you know, I'm one of them.

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Speaker 2: But I find too that it's almost by choice I

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