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Speaker 1: Isn't that just a happy homemaking story. What a success story.

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Speaker 1: And you sent me a beautiful picture of the sunset

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Speaker 1: p O r T. Please welcome the very disruptive Michael Rappaport. Hi, Michael,

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Speaker 1: you hello, what's up? Hoem? Skillet are better now that

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Speaker 1: Adidas dropped Kanye You look dashing as always, Michael. Ha ha.

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Speaker 1: don't usually do a lot of political questions, but I

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00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, this is a kind of a

422
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: good one. We've been seeing each other for four plus

423
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: years and love one another. The sex is ridiculously amazing.

424
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: He's my favorite person, and we get along great as

425
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: long as we don't discuss any sort of social or

426
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: political issues. We're both divorced, and have children, so we

427
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: have zero rush to live together or the serious future

428
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 1: right now, since our priorities are our children. I love him,

429
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: but lately our differences are becoming increasingly apparent, and I'm

430
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: irritated and angry. He's a cop and former marine. I'm

431
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: a doctor who works primarily with kids and teens, many

432
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: of them being transgender or lgbt Q. I've seen firsthand

433
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: the effects discrimination and marginalization can have on people and

434
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: how traumatizing it can be, and I care deeply about

435
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: how others are treated and their emotional well being. My

436
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: partner mocks pronoun usage and frankly seems transphobic and homophobic.

437
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty passionate about equality and give as much as

438
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: I can to support causes I believe in that make

439
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: a difference, whether through volunteer work or donations. I'm from

440
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: an affluent family. I'm educated and relatively well off, yet

441
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't mind having to pay my share in taxes

442
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: if it means bettering the lives of others who have less.

443
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 1: He had a very different upbringing than I did, and

444
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: has had to work hard to be in the financial

445
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: position he's in now. He makes two K year or

446
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 1: so so he's not exactly underpaid. He gets up set

447
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: every time a law is passed that provides more social

448
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: or financial support to others. I won't get into our

449
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: differences with vaccines and mask use, but I'm pretty sure

450
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: you can guess where each of us stands on those issues.

451
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: I was previously able to ignore our differences and just

452
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: not discuss them, but as someone who has only become

453
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: increasingly passionate about social justice issues and politics, it's now

454
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: impossible to bite my tongue. What's more, his social media

455
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: is a ton of let's go Brandon, anti vax or

456
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: yea guns stuff that I find disgusting and immature. He's

457
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: made all of his accounts private because I got upset

458
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: over his content and reposting of some very discriminatory posts

459
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: and tweets. I've overheard him use terms like stupid vaxers

460
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: and lib tards to describe people who are well, just

461
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: like me. It feels like he has zero respect for

462
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: the work I do with LGBTQ youth, anyone who isn't

463
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: a white male, and sadly me, I'm angry. I'm hurt,

464
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: but worse, I'm conflicted about staying in this relationship. I

465
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: know I can't change his views, but I think we

466
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: may be too different and have too many conflicting values

467
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: for this to work. Our chemistry and sex life are

468
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: out of this world hot, but I'm wondering if maybe

469
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: that's all there is, and we're just too different to

470
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: stay together much longer. I should add he isn't bothered

471
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: by any of this. Any advice on how to handle

472
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: having someone in my life whose world views are so

473
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: contrary to my own, or is this a lost cause?

474
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: L I mean it sounds like it's a lost cause

475
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: quite frankly, because he's so aggressive. I mean, it's one

476
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: thing to be a Republican, but it's another thing to

477
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: actively be against trans children, or be homophobic or throwing

478
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: around phrases like let's go Brandon and libtard doesn't invoke

479
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: any sort of healthy state of mind in my opinion.

480
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: And yes, sex is great, but guess what, you can

481
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: suck a bunch of other people and have great sex also,

482
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: like who gives a ship? If the sex is great,

483
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: that is not enough of a reason to stay in

484
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 1: a relationship. If it was just like a fly by night,

485
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: I would say, sure, Yeah, I keep having sex with him,

486
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: But clearly you're getting aggravated and the value system is

487
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: on opposing ends of the spectrum. So there's no point

488
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: in continuing that because you're just going to enervate yourself

489
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: by even being in the same relationship with him. And

490
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, blocking I mean not being able to follo

491
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: him on social media because his supposts are so upsetting,

492
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of a deal breaker. I mean, it

493
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: is a value it's a value issue. Your values are

494
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: different than his. Michael, what do you think I agree?

495
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean at first, I was, you know, at the

496
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: beginning of the letter, I was going to be like,

497
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, just seemed to just so, I I agree

498
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: with what everything you're saying. When you're funny, you funk

499
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: the sex whatever, what do you I mean, what do

500
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: you like? There's plenty of people you could have good

501
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: sex with, So you gotta shut down. What's this lady's name?

502
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: L got to shut it down? Okay, shut it down

503
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: now and listen. It was just like a light thing,

504
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: But it sounds like it's not a light thing because

505
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: that would be kind of kinky, like, oh, you know,

506
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: while you're having sex with him, he's like, you dumb,

507
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: fucking lived toward let's go Brandon, and that could be

508
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: like a kinky kind of sex old thing, but it's

509
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: this seems like a more interpersonal relationship. So I feel

510
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: like the relationship, you need to shut it down. You

511
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: guys are adults, so you need to shut it down. Also,

512
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, I would love to say, sure, you could

513
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: date somebody who's a Republican. I would like that to

514
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: be true. But in this stage that we're in, it's

515
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: pretty being a Republican represents restricting women's rights, it represents

516
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: restricting gay rights, trans rights, any marginalized group, like, it

517
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: stands for a lot more than it used to in

518
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: terms of oppression and and contraction of human rights. So

519
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: it's not really feasible that, I mean, everything is so divisive.

520
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: I wish it weren't this way, but it is. And like, unfortunately,

521
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: you're living in a time where Republicans do represent all

522
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: of those things. If you're voting for a Republican candidate,

523
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: especially because of your like what's coming out of your pocketbook,

524
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the lamest excuse ever for voting

525
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: for anybody at the cost of everyone else's rights. The

526
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: world is never gonna be white again. Okay, so just

527
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: fucking shut up about it already. It's never gonna be

528
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: like that. There's two much of a population of people

529
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: who are brown and black, and that is going to

530
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: be the majority, which is what scares the funk out

531
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: of Republicans. But it's like, just be loving. Don't you

532
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: want to live in a loving, nice place where people

533
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: are friendly and not screaming at each other and yelling

534
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: about guns. Fuck off? So yeah, leave him? Okay. I agree.

535
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: It's one thing to have different political beliefs than someone.

536
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: It's a different thing to have a varying degree of

537
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: value on human life. And this seems to extreme. This

538
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: is not even political, This is like values and and

539
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: he's blocking you on social media because he's posting wild ship.

540
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: That's crazy. These are how old is? How old is?

541
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: Mid forties? Come? Yeah? And especially there are kids involved.

542
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: If you do want a long term relationship with this guy,

543
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: you are eventually going to have him around your kids.

544
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: So like, is that someone you want instilling their values

545
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: and your kids? Probably not? No, definitely not. And you

546
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: know what, having sex with somebody who values women's rights

547
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: is going to be a lot hotter than having sex

548
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: with this guy up all right, now solved. They'll be

549
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: able to tell by the way he touches your hair. Well.

550
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: Our next question is a coller. This is Jackie. Dear Chelsea.

551
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm in love with two different men, and what's worse

552
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: sins they're both in love with me like this story. Yeah,

553
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: eventually I have to break someone's heart, and I can't

554
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: imagine doing that to anyone. These men are both polar

555
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: opposites of each other. I relate to them in different

556
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: areas of life. The chemical connection is insane with each guy.

557
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: Both of them tell me they're so in love with

558
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: me and that I'm the love of their lives, and

559
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: I truly believe both of them. It's incredible and yet

560
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: incredibly painful at the same time. I just want you

561
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: to know while we're reading this, Michael is licking his lips. Well,

562
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: that's because they're dry. Somebody just popped. Yeah, that's the call.

563
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: She's gonna be two and two together, Michael, I got it,

564
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: I got I don't know what the is going on here, obviously,

565
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: she says, I don't know how to choose. One guy

566
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: is my boyfriend of two years and the other is

567
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: my ex boyfriend that has come back into my life.

568
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: My current boyfriend has been very difficult lately, and my

569
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend has really done the work to figure himself out.

570
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: The sex is also amazing with both, but a little

571
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: better with my current boyfriend, and that area of the

572
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: relationship is very important to me. I need someone who's

573
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: not afraid to tell me like it is. Help Jackie,

574
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: and I should clarify she's not sleeping with both of

575
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: them currently. She just remembers the ex from before, right, Jackie. Yes, okay,

576
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: Hi Jackie, Right Jackie. You sure you're not sleeping with

577
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: them both? Not currently? Okay? So you're still in love

578
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: with your ex boyfriend and you're in love with your

579
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: new boyfriend and you're only sleeping with your new boyfriend. Yes, okay.

580
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: I was hoping that you were sleeping with both of

581
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: them at the same time, just because I love drama,

582
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, yeah, that would

583
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: be nice, but now that's not my Okay. Well, that's

584
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: nice of you not to do that, because that's, yeah,

585
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: cheating isn't nice. So how long were you with your

586
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend? Not that long, like six months and then

587
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: you guys broke up because why, Well, I was divorced

588
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: for about a year when I met him, and he

589
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: was my first boyfriend's sense of divorce and so I

590
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: was kind of crazy and so he ended it. Uh huh.

591
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: And so when you say he came back now that

592
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: he's done the work, what does that mean. Oh, he

593
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: went to therapy, he did a lot of work on himself.

594
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: He's very like emotionally available and everything like that. So yeah,

595
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: the ex boyfriends, Yes, how do you know that now?

596
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: Because you were in a relationship with the new boyfriend,

597
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: Like he might be presenting himself that way, but you

598
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: can only really tell from being in the trenches with somebody. Yeah,

599
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I've known him for a long

600
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: time and I know his family, like they all surround

601
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: me in this neighborhood that I live in, so I'm

602
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: surrounded by his entire family, so they are like well

603
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: known to me. So how long have you guys been

604
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 1: broken up? Three years? And how long have you been

605
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: with the new guy two and a half? Okay, and

606
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: so your ex boyfriend is actively trying to get you back? Yes? Interesting, Yeah,

607
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: that is they both tell me the same thing like

608
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: all the time. And does your current boyfriend know that

609
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: your ex boyfriend is trying to get you back. Oh no, okay, okay,

610
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: this is juicy. It is crazy. I feel like it's

611
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: a very embarrassing problem. Why because it sounds like a

612
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: soap opera and that is not my life. Yeah, but

613
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: some people, some people have this stuff going on. That's

614
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: nothing to be embarrassed about. It's cute. You have two

615
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: guys that love you and you have to choose. That's

616
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: a horrible it's horrible. It's agony. Do you feel like

617
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: you're in love with both of them? Yes? Absolutely, And

618
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: you're having an emotional affair with your ex boyfriend while

619
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: you're with your boyfriend sort of yes, So are you

620
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: going out and like seeing the ax? Have you guys

621
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: been in contact in person and letters? Like what's the

622
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: vibe there? Well, it's crazy because he has a ton

623
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: of siblings and they all have children, and so we

624
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: see each other like sports games and stuff like that,

625
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: and like we you know, we do we see each other.

626
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: So it's kind of is there lingering hugs and ship

627
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 1: like that? No, nothing like that. But he's just more

628
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: emotionally available than like my current boyfriend. So like the

629
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: lacking and my current boyfriend is not helping anything. The

630
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: grass is always greener on the other side, absolutely, and

631
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: that's I'm very self aware, Like I'm not going to

632
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: go move to an ex boyfriend just because of the

633
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: lacking and my current boyfriend. That's not going to happen.

634
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: So what do you like about your current boyfriend? Tell

635
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: us all the good things about him. I mean, he's

636
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: pretty amazing. A lot there are polar opposites. My current

637
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: boyfriend is like type A. He played rugby in college.

638
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: He's a business guy. He's very like active, he did

639
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: half iron Man's like all that type of stuff, and

640
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: he's very very fun. We have the best time together

641
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: doing absolutely nothing, which is the best. But my ex

642
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: boyfriend was We had fun doing nothing as well. He's

643
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: just more relaxed, easy going things like that. So I

644
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm kind of leaning towards your ex boyfriend.

645
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: I like, like, I like a like a story like that,

646
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: like where you break up and then the person goes

647
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: and takes care of their ship and then they come back.

648
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: Like I find that to be very romantic. But I

649
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: can't really decide for you who you like more. I mean,

650
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: that is a tough situation to be in. You have

651
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: to sit and like literally meditate on it and close

652
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: your eyes and figure out what the feeling that comes

653
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: to you is. Well right, And not only that, but

654
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm very aware that it could be no one I

655
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: could end up with neither of them, Like, none of

656
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: them could work out. So I don't know, it's very

657
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: hard to tell, like what outweighs what? You know? What

658
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, So what are the conversations around him

659
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: pursuing you while you're in a relationship. Are you allowing

660
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: that to keep going? Or did you say, hey, like

661
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: this is disrespectful to a degree, because if your current

662
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: boyfriend found that out, he'd be fucking pissed. Oh yeah,

663
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: he's doing that to me, I'd be fucking pissed. So yeah,

664
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: I completely understand when I put that in perspective, But um,

665
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: I hate to hurt anyone's feelings. And that's the biggest

666
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: problem I have. Whatever I choose, someone is going to

667
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: be heartbroken, and I don't want to do that to

668
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: either of them. Yeah, but if your ex boyfriend is heartbroken, like,

669
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: that's not your responsibility his heartbreak, right, You're not with him,

670
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: So and you guys have been broken up for a

671
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: period of time and you're in another relationship. Yeah, and

672
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: he broke up with me first, so that's right. Yeah,

673
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: what are some of the you said there's some complications

674
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: with your current boyfriend? What what's going on there? The

675
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: time limit that we have together is not enough for me.

676
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: We've been together for two a half years, so I mean,

677
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: I would like to move in together soon. He says

678
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: that we will. I know he wants to get married,

679
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: but it's just not moving quick enough for me. And

680
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: we live a half hour apart, and he doesn't really

681
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: come here that often. I usually go there a lot,

682
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: So that's a problem, just the availability. Okay, well wait,

683
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: you just said something that leads me to believe that.

684
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: You say you want to move in with him, and

685
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: the only reason you're hesitant about that is or he

686
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: seems to be putting it off for whatever reason or

687
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: not doing it in your timeline, But that is that

688
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: implies that you want to be with him, that you

689
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: want to spend the rest of your life with him,

690
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: if you want to move in with him. So I

691
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: feel like the other guys irrelevant in that situation. If

692
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: those circumstances changed right. Well, it just feel like, you know,

693
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: if my current boyfriend wanted to be with me really bad,

694
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: he would show me the effort and like moving forward,

695
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 1: and that's not happening. So it's like, if you wanted

696
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: to be with me, I would know, you know what

697
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean? Do you ask him for like a more

698
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: concrete timeline I have. We've had like a zillion conversations

699
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: about it until I'm blue in the face and I'm

700
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: kind of like over it by now. What is his response?

701
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: What does he say? Oh? He just says like, yeah,

702
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: I do want to live with you, I do want

703
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: to get married, and I believe him he does. It's

704
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: just to get him to move like in any sort

705
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: of way, any sort of action. He is not a

706
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: planner by any means, so for him to do anything

707
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: is like pulling teeth. Well, you could kill two birds

708
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: with one stone. You can just break up with your

709
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: current boyfriend and get back together with your AX, and

710
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: I bet you the current boyfriend will be ready to

711
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: move in as that would be the case. I probed

712
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: my boyfriend today, he would text me in or call

713
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: me in like a month or two in crying or

714
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: something like. That's the way it works. Yeah, always, always, Michael,

715
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on having to pending relationships one

716
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: relationship and one x lever. It's just seems confusing, And

717
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: I think that essentially, Jackie, I think having an emotional

718
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: affair with your ex boyfriend and you know that your

719
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: current boyfriend wouldn't like that, you might have to kick

720
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: both these dudes to the curb. You might have to

721
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: start from scratch because neither one of them might not

722
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: be the guy for you for a long term thing. Well,

723
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking. I feel like they're lacking. They

724
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: pick up what each other lacks. They both Yeah, may

725
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: not work out, that's a real reality. Or you could

726
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: just be honest with your real current boyfriend and tell

727
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: him that you're having an emotional affair with your ex

728
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: boyfriend because of what's lacking in your relationship today. Yeah,

729
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: you got options because if he breaks up with you,

730
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: you could just go back with that other gie. Just

731
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: make him make the decision for me. Well, yeah, I mean,

732
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: why not just be honest about it. I mean that

733
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: is the best form of communication, is like laying it

734
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: out there, and that way you don't have anything to

735
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: feel guilty about. Be like listen, this is lacking. I'm

736
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: a little bit bummed about how slowly this is moving

737
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: and I want to be living together. You don't want this.

738
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: So I've started talking to my ex boyfriend, and guess what,

739
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: he's really in love with me, and I feel like

740
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: I get something from him that I'm not get from

741
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: this relationship. This is worth discussing if we're going to

742
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: move forward or not. You know. Yeah, and I haven't

743
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: told him about my ex boyfriend, but I have kind

744
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: of like shut things down with him a little bit.

745
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: Like we're not completely broken up or anything, but I'm

746
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: saying I can't wait one more day for him to

747
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: make a move on anything. So we're kind of we're

748
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: not not together, but we're not together either. I know

749
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: that's messy, but like that's kind of the city we're

750
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: in right now. Yeah, it sounds like, yeah, you're in

751
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: a messy part of your life a little bit, which

752
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: is fine because then you know around the corner is

753
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: like normal adulthood or healthy, healthier circumstances. Well, then great,

754
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity. You guys are separated sort of

755
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: like go and just tell him this now, Like, Okay,

756
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: if you want to do something. This is the time

757
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: frame I needed to happen, otherwise I may start dating

758
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: my ex boyfriend. I think if you do, like actually

759
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: break up with the current boyfriend ish situation, you have

760
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: to bang the X like you have to even if

761
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: you don't date them, just like at least once. Oh yeah,

762
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: for sure. I've wanted to be like a ho ho

763
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: girl summer forever and I've never got because I'm always

764
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: in a relationship. So maybe I'll just done both of

765
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: them and by summer I can go out with anyone

766
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: I want. Yeah, So that's a long lead until summer. Yeah. Yeah,

767
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: but I have to get in shape too. So that's

768
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: because just take some those epic you'll be fine. You

769
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: don't have to get in shape. Everyone's on ozempic now. So, Michael,

770
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: do you have any thoughts about like getting back with

771
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: an X because Michael was telling us his wife they

772
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: had data when they were in the early twenties and

773
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: then they you know, went their separate ways and came

774
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: back together and are married. Or did you always love

775
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: your current wife now even when you were with your

776
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: other wife, not in any sort of I mean in

777
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: a broad picture, we were like we didn't my wife, Kibi.

778
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: Now you know, I'm a I'm a burn the building

779
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: and the street and the city down type of person.

780
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: A lot of times when I end relationships. This is

781
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: the only relationship where it kind of ended in a

782
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: even though didn't relationships ends always sad, but it was

783
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: always like we always stayed in in good graces and

784
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: we were always like loving to each other. But that

785
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: being said, I mean it was just timing, you know,

786
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: it's you know this, it was years. It was years

787
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: and years and years that we that we weren't together. So,

788
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, each situation is different. I mean I have

789
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: no problem, you know with getting back with people. Each

790
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: situation so specific and different. So when you were with

791
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: your one wife and if you saw your other wife,

792
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: did you feel any certain way loving, very loving, but

793
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: not not anything to be ashamed of or like I'm

794
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: talking like chemistry wise, like you don't feel that like buzz. Honestly,

795
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: it's hard to answer that because it's such a long

796
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: time ago. But it doesn't. It wasn't. It wasn't as complicated.

797
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: You're in conundrum. Yeah, no, ship, you're in You're in conundrum, Jackie, Jackie,

798
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: tell me this, if you never saw either one of them. Again,

799
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: is there one that you would feel like he's the

800
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: one that got away? Yes, my current boyfriend for sure.

801
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: Well I think that's your answer that I think you

802
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: owe it to him to just be really honest and

803
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: put it all out there, like you have nothing to lose. Well, yeah, absolutely,

804
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: but I feel like I deserve more than what he's

805
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: giving me. If you going to give me anymore, then

806
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: that's that anyways. Yes, even if even if my ex

807
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: boyfriend didn't show up, like this still isn't enough for

808
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: me anyway, So it would probably you know what I mean,

809
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: And that's what needs Yeah, you've got to communicate that

810
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: to him, like if you want to keep me, this

811
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: moves to the next level and if not, cool like

812
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: I gotta. It's so weird that women always have to

813
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: give men ultimatums like I just it's so annoying to

814
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: have to even do that. Like I understand your frustration

815
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: because you wanted to be a mutual affection, Like you

816
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to worry about whether somebody's gonna want you

817
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: to move in. It should be like you both are

818
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: like yeah, we're doing that, we're moving in together. We're

819
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: in love, So I can understand why you're not feeling that,

820
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, respect or the other person should want it

821
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: just as much as me. And if he doesn't, then

822
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a sign. How old are you? Okay,

823
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: So you're yeah, you're a grown up. Yeah, I mean

824
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: I've been married, divorced, gone through relationships, therapy, the whole thing.

825
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: So I'm very like, I'm very self aware of what's

826
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: going on. That's why this messy situation is not like

827
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: suiting me. Yeah, Like I think the advice would be

828
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: different if you were you know. And also I'm not

829
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: telling like anyone about this. You're the first people I've

830
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: ever talk The whole world's gonna know now. Oh, I'm

831
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: not telling anyone. We're keeping her video private private share

832
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: A video won't go up. They'll just hear her voice.

833
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: So what are we leaving with? What am I telling

834
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: your what to do? I don't fucking know. Tell me answers?

835
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I mean, I I just well,

836
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: I think first things first, you have to have the

837
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: conversation with your ex, I mean with your current boyfriend.

838
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: You have to have a conversation and go listen, forget

839
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: about this little area you're in this gray area. You're

840
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: you want black and white, like are you guys going

841
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: to move in together or not? And if you're not,

842
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: that's fine, You're going to move on and just let

843
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: him know that. You don't have to men and the

844
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend, you don't have to threaten him with whom.

845
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: Just say I'm good, I'm ready to move on. If

846
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: you're not going to do this and get that out

847
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: of the way, then see what he says. If the

848
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: answer is no, I'm not ready, then go great, and

849
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: then you can go. You have every right to go

850
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: date your ex boyfriend and see if that is something

851
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: that you want. And then I guarantee you this guy

852
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: is going to come around. And once he loses you,

853
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: that's what happens in every single relationship. One person leaves

854
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: and then the other person is like, what can I do?

855
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: I know my ex husband's the same way, Like he

856
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: still wants to get back together. Everybody wants to get

857
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: back together with you. Yeah, after they're done, sure, but yeah,

858
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a really hard thing and I

859
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: don't want to hurt anybody that's don't worry about that.

860
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: You can't control that. Do what you want to do

861
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: what's best for you, don't worry about hurting anybody. Have

862
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: that conversation. Are you gonna do this? You're gonna have

863
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: the conversation with your current guy and an honest already

864
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: have like we're on like a not talking basis for

865
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: a couple of days now, okay, so when you can

866
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: talk again, have this conversation. Yeah, okay, And like if

867
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: you need to go be a hobiah and tell us

868
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: about it, Yeah, totally don't feel bad about being a

869
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: hoe either for me. Who knows. Yeah, Michael still licking

870
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: his lips. Yeah, well, it's also it's also I didn't

871
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: sleep when you guys said go be a hobo. You know.

872
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's you know, I think

873
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: women these days this is kind of like talked about.

874
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: But I think it's a lot harder to do. It's

875
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: a lot easier to say than actually do for women

876
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: to actually go be go be hoes. I don't care

877
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: to do it. It might be the easiest thing rather

878
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: than Yeah, it's definitely fun to like have a bunch

879
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: of guys that you're juggling. That's fun. I've done that

880
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: in my life before, and I like that feeling because

881
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: there's no ties to anyone and you're just like you

882
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: can let people know you're not available for anything more

883
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: serious and most guys are totally downe with that anyway.

884
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: So oh yeah, yeah, for sure. Well Jackie, let us

885
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: know what you posted. When you make your fucking decision

886
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: and make some and take some action and let us

887
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: know what happens. I will thank you so much, all right, Jackie.

888
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: Sorry Jackie By, that's a stumper that was all over

889
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: the shop. I was like, wait, what and then they're

890
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: not together. It's like, wait, I don't understand. I was

891
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: excited when I thought she was having an affair. I

892
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: love to listen. This is I love listening to people

893
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: talk about affairs like I love on shows when there's affairs,

894
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: I love it. I don't know why I wanted that too,

895
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: I rued it. Sorry, guys, I wanted I wanted it.

896
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: I wanted it more messy. I want some Jerry Spring

897
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: your ship coming at us with your messy staff. Guys, Well,

898
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: our next color is lucky. Lucky says. I'm not sure

899
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: if you'll ever read this, but what the hell? Three

900
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: months ago I started doing stand up after I graduated

901
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: from college and film. A lot of my professor has

902
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: told me to go into grad school or some sort

903
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: of writing program for comedy, so I went with the

904
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: free option of stand up. Apparently I'm very good, which

905
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: is still surprising to me since a lot of my

906
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: material is me being a lesbian and non binary and

907
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: I live in the close thing to a city in Montana.

908
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: A lot of comics in my area I've looked up

909
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: to have praised and supported me these past three months,

910
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: and I'm forever grateful. Recently want to even help me

911
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: get my first paid guest spot for an upcoming show.

912
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: The one thing that all the comedians have told me

913
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: that I should work on is my confidence. Like a

914
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: lot of comedians, I'm a byproduct of trauma, autism, and

915
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: Catholic shame, so I can sometimes crumble with my confidence

916
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: waivers and always have the cadence of someone who's unsure

917
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: what they're saying. Even though I'm only going to be

918
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: on the stage for five minutes, i still want to

919
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: do really well since there's a guy there who books

920
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: you more gigs if he likes your stuff. Plus, I

921
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: want to be good for all the comedians that have

922
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: supported me and believed in me? How do I gain

923
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: more confidence in the next two weeks, or at least

924
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: learn how to fake it? Lucky and Lucky's twenty three

925
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: and Lucky here with us as well. Hi Lucky, Hello, Hi,

926
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: this is Michael, our special guest today. Are you doing, Lucky?

927
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the special guest. Actually head into my contract

928
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: Chelsea to refer to me as a very special guest.

929
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: I ripped up you. I ripped up your contract before

930
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: the podcast. All right, anyway, Lucky, I'm supposed to be

931
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: referred to as the very special guest. But that's all right,

932
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: sounds good. I'm just ship right now, Lucky. So you

933
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: want to build your confidence in two weeks? Yeah, what's

934
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: the two weeks? Is that a showcase or something? Yeah,

935
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: it's I'm opening for another comedian who is coming into

936
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: the only really comedy place we have in Montana. So well,

937
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of exercises you can do,

938
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Like if you just do ship that scares you for

939
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: the next two weeks, or you go and just start

940
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: doing stand up in front of stores or where people

941
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: aren't gathered to do stand up that was That's gonna

942
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: be a way to build your offidence, extreme situations that

943
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: you're not comfortable in and putting yourself out there, like

944
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: standing outside of a grocery store asking people if they

945
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: want to hear your material. That would probably build a

946
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: lot of confidence because there's gonna be a lot of rejection,

947
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: and that's also confidence building. It doesn't seem like it

948
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: works that way, but over time and over like hits

949
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: and misses, you do that is how you build confidence.

950
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: The only way you're gonna build confidence is with more

951
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: stage time. So I would create that stage time in

952
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: places where no one's expecting to see comedy, so you

953
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: can have the worst possible scenarios and that way, when

954
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: you're in a comedy club it won't even compare to that.

955
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: That definitely makes a lot of sense. I agree. I

956
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: think that's a really good advice. I always think it's

957
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: good advice to to take a deep breath, but I

958
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: think based on where you are and the limited amount

959
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: of stage time you're gonna be able to get, I

960
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: think that's really good advice that Chelsea game. Even though

961
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm the very special guests and I thought I was

962
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: gonna be the person given great advice, I don't think

963
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: I could top that, but just relax. I think the

964
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: most important thing is just relax and to trust yourself

965
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: and to trust your instincts. And I know that sounds generic,

966
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: but that I mean, at the end of the day,

967
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: that's all you could do and know your material and

968
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: and and you know hopefully you'll love Just take a

969
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 1: big deep breath before you get up there and have fun.

970
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: It's comedy. You if you're not having fun, the crowd

971
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: can have fun. Yeah, those things are generic, but they're true.

972
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: The reason why that people say them so frequently is

973
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: because all of those things are true. You want to

974
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: be able to be present on stage and be like

975
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: in the moment and actually enjoying yourself, right. You want

976
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: to remember each moment and be like secure in that.

977
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: And the more you remind yourself, I always feel like

978
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: when you're present and not distracted, like nothing can go

979
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: wrong because you're really in the moment and you're reacting

980
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: in real time. And yeah, you have your jokes and

981
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: your material set up, but you've got that. That's what

982
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: you've got. The other things that you can't control are

983
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: the things that you can just be present for and

984
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: be aware of. And I feel like nothing can go

985
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: wrong when you're really focused and honed in on something

986
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: you know. And I would definitely do even go over

987
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: to your friend's houses, go to your family's houses and

988
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: fucking make them listen to you, do stand up. Just

989
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: keep putting yourself in really awkward situations and I think

990
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: it'll lend itself to giving you more confidence. Yeah, no, definitely.

991
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: I will probably refrained from my parents because they might

992
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: not like the jokes I have most of the things

993
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: about them, But who cares. That's even more, that's even better.

994
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: Let them be squirm and that way. You know, that's

995
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: going to be awkward. Getting through awkward moments with confidence,

996
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: you know that's what you want to do, and so

997
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: that's okay. Yeah, I will say this is a very

998
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 1: awkward moment for me, so I'm it's good exercise. Yeah.

999
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: And by the way, not every comedian has to be

1000
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: the most confident. There's a lot of weird comics out

1001
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: there that have like a weird energy about them where

1002
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: they don't exude confidence. Michael, you would agree with me,

1003
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't you. You don't have to exude confidence. But do

1004
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: you think, Chelsea that some comedians it's almost like a

1005
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: character that they're doing that because I always think like

1006
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: those kinds of comedians, whether it's the one that pops

1007
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: into my head I was thinking about recently and I

1008
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: used to see him all the time, Emo Phillips. You're like,

1009
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: this fucking guy seems like he's in pain walking down

1010
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: the street, but yet to have the balls to go

1011
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: on stage, there has to be a certain amount of confidence.

1012
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: I don't know that's the person that came in my head,

1013
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of people that play that sort

1014
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: of role. But to me, it's sort of like it's

1015
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: a character. Do you think so, Chelsea, you're knowl Yeah,

1016
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that a lot of people are

1017
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: playing up this kind of persona or character, if you will.

1018
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: But I do think there's a lot of people like

1019
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: there's a difference between stage presence and confidence. Also, I

1020
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: think what you really want is stage presence, right, because

1021
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: it might be part of your comedy that you're not

1022
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: that confident, you know, So I think that's more important

1023
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: to think about about, like commanding a stage and being

1024
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: out there and making sure that nobody's going to trample

1025
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: on you or nobody's gonna try and heckle you, like

1026
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: that's more of a stage presence where you're commanding the

1027
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: audience's attention, and I think that would probably be a

1028
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: better focus than trying to instill the confidence because that

1029
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: just comes with time and with time spent on stage age.

1030
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I stand by doing those exercises still, but

1031
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of a delineation of the two words. Luck.

1032
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: You're getting world class advice from Chelsea here. That's a

1033
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: good ship you're getting here. Yeah. No, this is a

1034
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: very surreal moment for me, considering I used to watch

1035
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: Chelsea Um as a kid and why I'm doing this now.

1036
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: So this is a good good Make sure you have fun, Lucky.

1037
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: Don't put too much pressure on yourself. You're not jumping

1038
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: off a cliff. You ain't taking the s a t.

1039
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: You know, there's far more things that the ramifications are

1040
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: going to be worse. You've made people laugh before they're

1041
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: gonna laugh again. Just have a good time. Thank you.

1042
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: I appreciate it so much, and you guys taking the

1043
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: time to tell me all this. Absolutely, honey, we're on

1044
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: your team. We're on team Lucky. Yes, and what a

1045
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: fantastic name. Also, thank you, I Joseph myself, I love

1046
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: that good for you, Good for you. All right, Lucky, Well,

1047
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: let us know how it goes, and you're gonna do great.

1048
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Okay, take care and try and

1049
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: get out of Wyoming as soon as you can. Okay,

1050
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: it is the same thing actually, By lucky God. I

1051
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: can't believe people even have stand up comedy clubs there.

1052
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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever performed in Montana. I mean

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00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: it's just open spaces. Really. I think you just got

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00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: into a field and started telling jokes to the wheat

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00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: or what's in Montana? Yeah, there's a ski resort in Montana.

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00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: That's all I know about Montana. We drove across Montana

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Speaker 1: actually last year and it was the weirdest thing. It

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00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: was super flat and they were just these like you

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00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: could see storms in the distance, but you just see

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00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: a column of rain coming from a cloud. It wasn't

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00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: like the whole you know, distance was filled with rain.

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00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: And we wound up driving through one It was just

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Speaker 1: a downpour and we out the other side and like

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00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: five minutes it was the most bonkers weather I've ever seen.

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00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: It sounds like one of those rain do you know

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Speaker 1: how you see those on social media now, those like twisters,

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00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: but they have them over water where they pull up

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Speaker 1: the water. I'm like, what the fund is that. I

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00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: don't want to be have a fucking boat and run

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Speaker 1: into one of those though. No, thank you. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back to

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Speaker 1: finish up with Michael and Chelsea. And we're back. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is the part of the show, Michael where we

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00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: would like to know if you would like any advice

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Speaker 1: from Chelsea. What advice could I ask from Chelsea handler

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00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: parenting advice? Well, my kids are twenty and twenty two,

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00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: so they're boys. The fuck you got kids, Chelsea? No,

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00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna have kids. I'm seven. I can't have kids anymore.

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Speaker 1: I hope you might. You never know. I'm not sucking

1080
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: pulling any ship like that. I don't like that. I

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00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: don't like having babies at fifty. I'm not down for that.

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00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: Do you want any kids? No? I did if I had.

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00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: If I wanted kids, I would have had them. I

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00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: don't have time for that. I'm too selfish. I like

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00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: my life. I'm not interested in raising anybody or being responsible,

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00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, having to provide them with all the information

1087
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: that comes along with having to parent. First of all,

1088
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: they ask too many questions. That's annoying, you know, I mean,

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00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: I can't even handle all the questions. And then I

1090
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: don't think insessantness is a word, but maybe it is.

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Speaker 1: I'll look it up. I'm sure it'll be a word

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00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: by the end of the week. Here's a question I

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00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: have for you, Chelsea. You're a ship talker. I I

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00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: consider myself a ship talker. I say that with all

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00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: due respect. How do you maintain your ship talking superpowers

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00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: in this delicate cancel culture, day and age without compromising

1097
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: your ship talking superpowers and your gut instinct to talk ship?

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00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Well, I think the

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00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: rules are very simple. We're we're not supposed to be

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Speaker 1: racist and we're not supposed to be sexist. That's it.

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00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: As long as you're not discriminating against a certain group

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00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: of people within your ship talking as you say, then

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00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: there is no problem. I don't feel like that's such

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00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: a tall order. I feel like if I don't have

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00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: to be racist or sexist, that okay. Great. I like parameters.

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00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: It makes you more clever, and you know, when you're

1107
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: picking fights with people, make sure you're picking them with

1108
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: the people that you disagree with on a value level,

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00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 1: you know, if you're talking of I mean we're talking

1110
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: about like Republicans and Trump and and Kanye, like those

1111
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: are pretty big targets and and and rightfully so, you know,

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Speaker 1: and deserving of it. So I just think about it

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00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: in terms like that. It doesn't limit my personality or

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00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: make me you know, I mean, we can all be

1115
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: kinder and gentler, but it's not going to take away

1116
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: my pizzaz or whatever the funk it is, you know,

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00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: my ability to call somebody out when they're acting like

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00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: an idiot, a or an asshole. And there are also

1119
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: a varying degrees of ways to say those things, you know,

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00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: right right there, there definitely are varying ways to say things.

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00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: You know, I choose my persona. It doesn't allow me.

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00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play Kate and be delicate with these

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Speaker 1: with these people, you know, especially when it's coming at

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Speaker 1: the Jews. Because also I have such a um. I

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00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: don't like the stereotypes, particularly in show business of Jewish men.

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00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: You know, I do not like them. They're they're perpetuated.

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00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: That's part of who I am, It's part of who

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00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: my family is. But I feel like that's all we

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00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: get to see for the most part with Jewish men,

1130
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Speaker 1: and I don't like that. I don't like that. Well,

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00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think those are two separate issues, you know.

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think does yeah. I just think listen,

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00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: nobody wants to be discriminated against, and nobody wants to be,

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00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, be told. That's just like human decency, like

1135
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: we should evolve, right, we should understand that that's not

1136
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: a pleasant feeling. And I think that, you know, real

1137
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: comedy comes from self deprecation, like when you're starting out

1138
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: with yourself, then you can have more leeway to go

1139
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: after other people, because you have to be an egalitarian

1140
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: about it, right, and we just can't just hand pick

1141
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: certain groups, or I mean the Jewish thing, the conversation,

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00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about a couple of different things here,

1143
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: but people not standing up for Jewish people. I think

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00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: you kind of touched upon which I think a lot

1145
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: of people assume that Jewish people can take care of themselves,

1146
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: which is not helpful and it's a falsehood. It's like,

1147
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: if you're gonna stand up for BLM. I also read

1148
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: this woman's post yesterday who was saying she was so

1149
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 1: pissed that all these white people were going up talking

1150
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: about standing up for Jews, yet where were they for BLM?

1151
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, wait a second, I was. We

1152
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: were all right there. What are you talking about? I mean,

1153
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: not all of us, but I know I was. I

1154
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: know you were. I know you were. So it's an

1155
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: unfortunate conversation to constantly have. But I don't think we're

1156
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: going to move past it until we just get it right.

1157
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: We keep rehashing it and rehashing it, and then then

1158
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: there's all this resistance to it, and it's like, cool,

1159
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: well this is limiting my behavior, like your personality or

1160
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: your persona, which I would argue is your personality. It's

1161
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: not a persona, that's who you are. You're not a

1162
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: discriminatory guy. So I don't think that you have that

1163
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: much to worry about, you know what I mean, You're

1164
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: not coming from some nasty place. You're not on bright

1165
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: Bard if that's still up and running hopefully not. You know,

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: I don't I don't look at you like, oh, you're

1167
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to watch what you say. And I don't

1168
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: think I have to watch what I say because I'm

1169
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: not a fucking idiot. You know, I know better, Like

1170
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: when you know better, you do better, as Oprah says.

1171
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: But it's true. It's like, oh, we're all educated on

1172
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: it now, you know, Like let's just behave in a

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00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: little bit more mindful way, especially with the ship that's

1174
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: going on. I like to put out good vibes, but

1175
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be soft ever. I'm always going

1176
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: to be a cunt, like that's part of my DNA, Right,

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: I got you. That's good. I like that. I mean,

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00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: this whole episode was all over the shop. I think

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00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We had calls that we're

1180
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: making sense, predicaments that aren't making sense, conversations that are circular,

1181
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: but whatever. I mean, it's a good fucking day at work.

1182
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: Then isn't it just to be more confused than when

1183
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: we started? We didn't solve anything today. This is a

1184
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: hot mess. But I love you, Michael Rappaport. I love you.

1185
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: You're entertaining. You entertaining. That's my booklyn accent. You're entertaining.

1186
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: And everybody needs to follow Michael on Instagram. Is it

1187
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: at Michael Rappaport or the Michael map at Michael And

1188
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: also you have a new podcast coming out right, Yeah,

1189
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: well it's not new, but yeah, the IMP stereo podcast,

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01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: okay on iHeart, right on iHeart. Yeah, I love doing

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: it and it's, uh, it's a lot of fun. I

1192
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,959
Speaker 1: love doing it. We've been doing it for a while

1193
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: now and it's it's a good time. Okay. So he

1194
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: has a podcast it's called I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast

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01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: that you can find that on I Heart. He's also

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: on tour doing live shows and all tickets and dates

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01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: are available at Michael Rappaport Comedy dot com. So follow

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01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: him on Instagram, go buy tickets to his show. I'd

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01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: like to see you perform live. That would be funny.

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: Maybe anyways, meet in person? Oh yeah, yeah, we'll have

1201
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: to meet in person. I'll go look at your dates

1202
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: and see if you're gonna be around wherever I'm gonna

1203
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: be around. You're touring now to right, Yeah, I'm wrapping

1204
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: up my tour so I'm just doing the weekends. Oh good?

1205
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: Are you having fun? I am? I am? I mean,

1206
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited to take a break from stand up after this.

1207
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm just doing the last like I think I have

1208
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: like twenty dates left. So yeah, I always have fun

1209
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: on the road. I mean it's nice. You know. Now

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01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: I have to come up with a new hour because

1211
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: I just shot my special and so yeah, now I'll

1212
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: use these dates to come up with new materials. So

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01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, I don't have time to be writing

1214
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: fucking material. I mean I do, but I'm not writing it.

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01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: So I've got to just really start thinking that's cool. Okay,

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01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear it. All right, Well, I'll

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01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: see you soon, Michael. Thanks so much anytime. I appreciate it.

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: This was fun you guys, and thank you for having

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01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: you guys, and hopefully we will meet in real life soon. Okay,

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01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: sounds good. Thanks by. So I'm winding up my stand

1221
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: up tour. Vaccinated and Horning is coming to a screeching

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01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: halt at the end of the year. I have my

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Speaker 1: last dates coming up, and these are the last opportunities.

1224
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: You have to also buy merch from the website Chelsea

1225
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: Handler dot com if you want Vaccinating and Horning merch

1226
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: or Captain's hats. Let's say we're the Captain's now for

1227
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: women only. Our t shirts for men and your family

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01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: that say I'm sorry because they should be I only

1229
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: have a few dates left. I'm going to Rockford, Illinois, Minneapolis, Rosemont,

1230
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: Illinois to show in Tampa, a show in Fort Myers, Florida,

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01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: Daytona Beach, Hollywood, Florida, Concord, New Hampshire, Wooster, Mass wilkes Berry, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: Wilke's Berry, Pennsylvania. There I said it, and then San

1233
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: Diego and Riverside, California, and then Baltimore, Maryland, and then

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01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: my very last day is December six in Reading, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: If you are enjoying what you're hearing, you can subscribe

1236
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: to Dear Chelsea. That is our podcast, and you can

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01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: rate us if you want. Yeah, that's a great idea.

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01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: It actually makes a huge difference for this podcast, for

1239
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: any podcast that you like, Subscribing giving it a rating

1240
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: actually make a huge difference in who all we get

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: served to and spread the word. Okay, yeah, yeah, subscribe

1242
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: and and and comment, yeah, and follow. I'm trying to

1243
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: find what our rating is, So if you'd like advice

1244
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: from Chelsea, just send us an email at Dear Chelsea

1245
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: podcast at gmail dot com. Dear Chelsea is a production

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01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Executive produced by Nick Stuff, produced

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01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: by Catherine law and edited and engineered by Brad Diggert

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Speaker 1: H