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Speaker 1: On this episode of Newtsworld, I want to take some

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Speaker 1: time to really share with you thinking about Mexico and

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Speaker 1: the crisis of the Mexican cartels and the crisis of

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Speaker 1: the Mexican President Andre Manuel Lopez Obrador called amlow, which

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Speaker 1: is what I'll use for the rest of this conversation,

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Speaker 1: because what you have coming together is a more and

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Speaker 1: basically has decided that his approach is what he announced

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, which is hugs not bullets. Now, you know,

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Speaker 1: when asked about kidnappings, which is one of the things

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Speaker 1: which has caused us to really start looking at Mexico,

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Speaker 1: Obrador said, quote, how do we avoid kidnapping with a

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Speaker 1: better society with justice? So his approach has been basically

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Speaker 1: and as a result, to encourage the growth of the

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Speaker 1: cartels in Mexico. And the cartels are already very very

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Speaker 1: serious problem. So let me start with the Mexican President himself,

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Speaker 1: because it was his statement in a press conference last

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Speaker 1: how really big a problem we're faced. In a press conference,

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Speaker 1: which was his reaction to Republican congressman reacting to a

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Speaker 1: terrible moment when two Americans were killed in daylight abductions

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Speaker 1: after their minivan of total four traveled across the US

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Speaker 1: Mexican border into Matamoras, Mexico. The Golf cartel later apologized

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Speaker 1: and said the kidnappers had acted on their own and

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Speaker 1: they were turning them over to authorities. Now, first of all,

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Speaker 1: the arrogance of the cartel apologizing and the idea that

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Speaker 1: which is very sobering. And the total number of kidnappings

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Speaker 1: than I had realized. So a number of Republican Congressmen

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Speaker 1: said very strong things, and in reaction to that, this

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Speaker 1: is what President Obador said, quote, we establish our position

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Speaker 1: at once. We are not going to allow any foreign

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Speaker 1: we are going to initiate an information campaign aimed at

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Speaker 1: Mexicans who live and work in the United States and

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Speaker 1: all Hispanics, to inform them about what we are doing

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Speaker 1: in Mexico and on how this initiative from the Republicans,

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Speaker 1: besides being irresponsible, is an offense against the people of Mexico,

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Speaker 1: a lack of respect for our independence, for our sovereignty.

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Speaker 1: And if they do not change their attitude and think

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Speaker 1: that they're going to use Mexico for their propagandist electioneering

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Speaker 1: and dirty political purposes, we're going to call them not

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Speaker 1: to vote for that party due to its being interventionist, inhumane, hypocritical,

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Speaker 1: and corrupt, because we do not accept what the Senator

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Speaker 1: said yesterday. Mexico is to be respected. We are not

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Speaker 1: the United States. Mexico is a free, independent and sovereign country. Well,

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Speaker 1: if in fact the President of Mexico were successfully involved

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Speaker 1: he were involved in the number of dead people in Mexico,

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Speaker 1: that may make some sense. But let's be clear, we

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Speaker 1: last year, over one hundred thousand Americans died from drug overdoses. Now,

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Speaker 1: at one level, that's an American problem because we have

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Speaker 1: And the cartels have been remarkably successful, and we should

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Speaker 1: remember that when you talk about the cartels, these are

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Speaker 1: increasingly sophisticated, increasingly powerful organizations. We have tried to communicate

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Speaker 1: to the Mexicans that we are not going to tolerate

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Speaker 1: the cartels who are more and more aggressive, more and

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Speaker 1: Marcelo Ebrard tweeted quote, Mexico will never accept any action

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Speaker 1: that entails the violation of its national sovereignty. We will

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Speaker 1: act firmly. I have already sent our position of the

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Speaker 1: transnational organized crime. Mutual respect is the basis of cooperation.

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Speaker 1: Well sounds great, except they don't stand up to organize crime.

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Speaker 1: They are, in fact the allies of organized crime. They

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Speaker 1: Texas Governor Greg Abbott published a letter to President Biden

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Speaker 1: urging him to designate the cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.

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Speaker 1: This is Governor Rabbitt, who, after all, as a Texas governor,

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Speaker 1: the kind of Mexican drug cartel penetration that occurs in

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Speaker 1: all too many cities in Mexico. So here's what Governor

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Speaker 1: Rabbitt said, quote major Mexican drug cartels like Los Azetas

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Speaker 1: and the Golf Cartel easily qualify as foreign terrorist organizations.

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Speaker 1: He went further, saying, designating Mexican drug cartels as foreign

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Speaker 1: terrorist organizations will give your administration new ways to fight

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Speaker 1: back now. Another Texan Representative, Dan Crenshaw, introduced a bill

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Speaker 1: earlier this year to authorize military force against the cartels.

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Speaker 1: Representative Chip roy reintroduced quote Drug Cartel Terrorist Designation Act,

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Speaker 1: which would require the State Department to designate the Golf Cartel,

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Speaker 1: the Cartel de Sinaloa, and the Cartel de Alisco Nueva

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Speaker 1: Generacione as foreign terrorist organizations. However, when the Biden administration

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Speaker 1: has confronted with US, just as with China, softness and

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Speaker 1: weakness are the word of the day. Attorney General Merritt Garland,

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Speaker 1: in an appearance in the Senate on March second, I

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Speaker 1: want to ask if he would designate the cartels, said quote,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't oppose it, but again I want to point

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Speaker 1: General Garland, except the reason we have the problem is

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Speaker 1: you can't get the assistance from Mexico. There's no possibility

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Speaker 1: that the Mexican president who is going to designate any

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Speaker 1: of these as terrorists unless the other cartels ask him to. Now,

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Speaker 1: if the other cartels saw a chance to wipe out

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Speaker 1: during a press conference, quote, designating these cartels as foreign

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Speaker 1: terrorist organizations would not grant us any additional authorities that

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Speaker 1: we don't really have at this time. United State says

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Speaker 1: powerful sanctions authorities specifically designated to combat and narcotics trafficking organizations,

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Speaker 1: and the individual's nities enabled them. Now that is just

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Speaker 1: plain flat not true. And in fact, former Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Bill Barr recently described Mexico as quote well in its

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Speaker 1: went on to say, remember this is a former attorney general.

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Speaker 1: We have to be more active against the cartels. In

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Speaker 1: my mind, we have to approach the cartels more like

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Speaker 1: It means you go to a war footing. You don't

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Speaker 1: go to a FBI enforcements bidding. Very different structure. Now,

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Speaker 1: according to the State Department, foreign terrorist organizations are quote

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Speaker 1: in accordance with Section two nineteen of the Immigration and

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Speaker 1: Nationality Act as amended. FTO designations play a critical role

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Speaker 1: of curtailing support for terrorist activities and pressuring groups to

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Speaker 1: designated in twenty twenty one. However, twenty twenty two and

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Speaker 1: a number of steps we can take. First of all,

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Speaker 1: we can demand Amlow's assurances that Mexico respect American sovereignty

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Speaker 1: They have over a million people a year illegally coming

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Speaker 1: So we can say we agree les have mutual respect,

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Speaker 1: They got back and they promptly dismissed the case. I mean,

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Speaker 1: behavior of Amlo as president. They could also demand that

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Speaker 1: often in very gruesome ways. Amlo staged a public visit

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Speaker 1: They could also demand that Amlow provide a full accounting

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Speaker 1: of the origin of his family wealth and investigate Accordingly,

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Speaker 1: much of the money is in the US. His son

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Speaker 1: lives a lavish life in Houston with no readily apparent

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Speaker 1: well out of their fathers is not exactly a Mexican monopoly.

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Speaker 1: also demand that Amlo actually exercised Mexican state sovereignty overall

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Speaker 1: And we also have to recognize the topic. I'll be

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Speaker 1: coming back to the current crisis of mental health, drug addiction,

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Speaker 1: become this sick, recognize that we are fully as much

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Speaker 1: quit buying drugs, getting Americans to quit feeling they need drugs,

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Speaker 1: find a way to get back to thinking you can

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Speaker 1: have a healthy, decent life, doing many decent things without

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Speaker 1: having to have some kind of chemical exchange that makes

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Speaker 1: do we do to help America? And I thank you

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