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Speaker 1: And That's What You Really Missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: Podcast Welcome to You and That's what You Really miss podcast.

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Speaker 3: He have the one and only Darren Chris here today

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Speaker 3: to talk about Glee, but most importantly about his newest

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Speaker 3: venture on Broadway. He's an original broadwaycast member of Maybe

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Speaker 3: Happy Ending. Everybody we've talked to is just said how

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Speaker 3: refreshing this show is, how joyful and sweet. And for

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Speaker 3: the record, I did audition for it and I listened

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Speaker 3: to the music and was like, oh wow, I love this.

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Speaker 3: So I'm super happy to talk to him today and

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Speaker 3: you will.

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Speaker 1: Get a vibe for how how he's doing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it sounds like you and I have not seen it.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like the most wonder full show. Everybody and who

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Speaker 2: has seen it has absolutely loved it. And get ready

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Speaker 2: because Darren tells us all about it. So this is

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Speaker 2: Darren Chris.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Darren, Welcome back, my friends. We had to have

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Speaker 3: you back because you are now starring on Broadway in

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Speaker 3: a hit musical that made its way from South Korea.

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Speaker 3: And we're very I personally am very happy about we

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Speaker 3: hear it's wonderful. A lot of Glee friends have gone

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Speaker 3: to see it and had spoken people speak volumes about it.

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Speaker 1: We're so proud of you.

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Speaker 4: Congrats, thank you. I feel so lucky. It's crazy, you know,

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Speaker 4: these things are It wasn't part of the itinerary for

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Speaker 4: people to take to it. You hope for it, mantra.

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Speaker 4: I've said many, many, many times in many venues. It's

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Speaker 4: like my general like mantra, and life was like, you know,

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Speaker 4: hope for everything, expect nothing.

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Speaker 1: So right.

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Speaker 4: I did this because I thought it was beautiful. I

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Speaker 4: had the good fortune of being available, and usually those

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Speaker 4: two things don't always line up right. And this, this

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Speaker 4: experience has been just a polite reminder of the value

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Speaker 4: of of how following your heart is sort of a

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Speaker 4: zero loss game. Michael Arden, who Kevin knows and Janet

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Speaker 4: you has both known. I talked about both of you

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Speaker 4: do Michael Arden. Yeah, there's an old friend of mine

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Speaker 4: via our mutual buddies. You know. His husband is my

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Speaker 4: classmic from Michigan, Andy Mienttez, and so we've been friends

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Speaker 4: for years and his career as a director has blossomed

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Speaker 4: to like a huge degree in the past several years.

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Speaker 4: And so anytime you have friends that are smashing on

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Speaker 4: that level. There's this thing in the back of your

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Speaker 4: mind of like, really cool to do something, but that's

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Speaker 4: not why your friends and yeah, yeah, you're praying that

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Speaker 4: the happy quin and having something that you could do

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Speaker 4: would come up. But you know, again, that's not why

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Speaker 4: I hang with him. But it happened to come up

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Speaker 4: at a very fortuitous, serendipitous time. And I'm so so

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Speaker 4: grateful because I kind of balk at the alternate dimension

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Speaker 4: where I'm like watching the show, going what I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: give to be in this.

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Speaker 2: What a gift?

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Speaker 4: It is such a gift.

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Speaker 2: That's the dream I think for everybody is to and

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Speaker 2: I've heard that the amount of people who I've talked

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Speaker 2: to about the show, people who know that I know you,

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Speaker 2: and people who don't, who just are telling me about like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to happen this weekend, Like I'm going to

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Speaker 2: New York and everyone says, I have to see is it? Maybe?

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Speaker 2: I'm like maybe happy end? Like everyone came and I

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Speaker 2: everyone says the exact same thing, which is how you

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Speaker 2: know it's real. Yeah, I'm the most special thing they've seen.

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Speaker 2: They go they win in not knowing much about it

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Speaker 4: Like I mean, I've said this like after every show,

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Speaker 4: to every guest, to every person. I've said this in

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Speaker 4: every possible interview, and I will say it again until

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Speaker 4: I go horse. This show is the most remarkable, most

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Speaker 4: singular thing I've ever had the pleasure of being a

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Speaker 4: of Lee. You were there from the beginning, like you

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Speaker 4: goes forever and ever, Amen, I'm like now baked into

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Speaker 4: and that is such a remarkable I've never gotten to

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Speaker 2: My looking luck.

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Speaker 4: It is so extraordinary, and I'm glad that it's something

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Speaker 4: that people can come to it times a week because

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Speaker 4: I need witnesses.

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Speaker 2: Right. It's a beautiful put it. And also, like you,

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Speaker 2: you've always been very present and like very aware of

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Speaker 2: what was going on. But I also think you're at

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Speaker 2: a different place in your life than when we were

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Speaker 2: all working together to where like you do have kids,

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Speaker 2: that schedule is not easy on its own, and now

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Speaker 4: And the and the the show is like a living,

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Speaker 4: breathing hug. That hug comes home with me, and the

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Speaker 4: I love me a three hour you shout fest like

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Speaker 4: you did American Buffalo like two years ago. But I'm

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Speaker 4: not missing bedtime six to you know seven, you know

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Speaker 4: to leave and like spread like negative energy for three

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Speaker 4: Like like pa. It's just really really sweet and it's

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Speaker 4: it sounds like I'm just giving, like you know, the

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Speaker 4: It's like I've never been part of something. You know,

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Speaker 4: even when Glee was on, there'd be people like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm still careful with how I there's things that I've

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Speaker 4: knows too much. We've experienced too much, either because of

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Speaker 4: and me on stage having the frankly glee, the sheer glee,

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious because of likely, like we were part

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Speaker 1: Very moving.

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Speaker 1: You know that, right, we know that piece. You just

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Speaker 4: Were advertising this or we're letting people know that you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's fine. I auditioned for it. I was like,

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Speaker 2: Michael didn't show you like, I mean it's been around

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who knows who knows it's really beautiful,

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Speaker 2: Did you not? Did you ignore it for a second?

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Speaker 4: I for anybody listening to this, uh and you guys,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And God knows, we're like pushing a lot of

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Speaker 4: So there was a circle time that we had before

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Speaker 2: Theater is great, like theater is theater, Yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: So the first time I saw some pictures of that,

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00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: I was like, am I seeing this correctly? I couldn't

436
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: figure out what. I was like, something looks different.

437
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 4: I've got contacts in it's very like.

438
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: Just what was happening? I was like, I have to

439
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 2: I have to see It's wild.

440
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like a little painted porcelain doll. There's so

441
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 4: many details that are like you can't see unless you're

442
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 4: up close. But there's like the way that the the

443
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: wig has talk about bonus round ship like you nobody

444
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 4: would see this unless you were next to me on stage.

445
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: But like the stitching of the hairline looks like like

446
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 4: hair pluggy Okay, you know, like that like a doll. Yeah,

447
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: and it's just like a small detail. It's really really cool.

448
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 4: And like when I look myself in the mirror, I'm like,

449
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: oh shit, well this is weird.

450
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: So it just really because you have ships to put on.

451
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 4: There's no market. I mean, I've been late and it's

452
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: like it's not it's not a fun experience. So I'm

453
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: there about an hour, hour and a half. I try

454
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 4: to be good boy, you know, I warm up and

455
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: I do all the things because you know, this is

456
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 4: a long haul show. I have passed just a couple

457
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 4: of weeks ago, the longest I've ever been in a

458
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: theatrical run.

459
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, how exciting. Yes, it's exciting.

460
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 4: I've only done like, you know, a littleit engagement, like

461
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: sixteen eighteen weeks tops, and now I'm over one hundred

462
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 4: and fifty something performances.

463
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm wanting to the original Broadway cast recording exactly.

464
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: Baby, I know I'm freaking out about that.

465
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Speaker 3: Your cash recording comes out this week on Friday, very exciting.

466
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Speaker 1: What was it like to do it like in OBC or.

467
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Speaker 2: As Jenna, have you done OBC?

468
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: I haven't.

469
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: I joined Readrea.

470
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: I joined after they o.

471
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: And was weakening.

472
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Speaker 3: I did Rue for King and I I did the

473
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: King and I, yes, I did, at nine years old

474
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: do my first broadcast recording.

475
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 4: But you hear yourself on that album.

476
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a solo that's crazy Internet.

477
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: Getting getting to know You. Yes, so yes, we did kids. Yes,

478
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: I was one of the cut kids. And I had

479
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 3: the solo and I sang getting to know You and

480
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 3: we did it on the Macy's parade and so I

481
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: did the experience.

482
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: Getting to know you, getting.

483
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Speaker 4: To know and it was just you as a little

484
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: little girl singing that.

485
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: That's it, that's me.

486
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 4: And then whoever sang next was because everybody would go.

487
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: Oh, it was the group. It was the group. At

488
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: least it wasn't do a Murphy.

489
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: Oh okay, anyway, tell me about the OBC because that's

490
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: it's just so cool.

491
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Speaker 4: It is really cool. I mean, I've told so many

492
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 4: of my Broadway colleagues that they are like radio stars

493
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 4: in my car, more so than you know, the Taylor

494
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 4: Gaga and Bruno or Beyonce combined because I listened to

495
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: so much Broadway ExM that, Like, I just like I'm

496
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: always hearing Stephen Pascal or Victoria Clark or I'm just

497
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 4: don't know why I'm saying those people randomly today, Like

498
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: I listen, you know, they come up, you know, every

499
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 4: now and then I hear you guys, you know from Lee.

500
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: So the people that I see like around campus with

501
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: the people that I listen to in my car less

502
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: so in New York's I drive last New York. But yeah,

503
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 4: I love those albums and you know, growing up for us,

504
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 4: at least for social media, cast albums were like the

505
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: way to have a connection to New York City. It

506
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: was the Tony's and the Cast albums were the only

507
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 4: way I would know what was going on. So it's exciting,

508
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 4: but it's also daunting. I mean, this show is this

509
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 4: I would describe the music. It's like chamber pop. It's uh,

510
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: it's got this sort of which which is an actual

511
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: It's like elevated it's musical theater chamber pop because it

512
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 4: falls a lot of sort of old school. I wouldn't

513
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 4: say rules, but guidelines and so harmonically, there's a lot

514
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: of nostalgic things happening because there's a lot of mid

515
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 4: century sort of jazz standards things going on. But it's

516
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 4: also very backrack. I think Jesse Green at the Times,

517
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: who you know, is something of a tricky, u divisive

518
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 4: character in the Broadway critic world, but he said something

519
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: that was really great. He said the music fell somewhere

520
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: between Sondheim and backrack backrack at Sondheim. I was like,

521
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: that's really on and also a huge, like okay, cool,

522
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: huge compliment. I set that to our composers, be like,

523
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: this is a feather in your cap. So because it's

524
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: not Roger Hammerstein, there's not a bigness to it. The

525
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 4: album is smaller. It's like the radio play version. So

526
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, Glee gave us all master's degree and recording

527
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: recording vocals, not performing vocals, recording vocals. Kevin had a lead,

528
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: had like a head start on this because of your world.

529
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: You know, your experience with recording booths, all of us

530
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: by the end clocked in. You know, thousands of hours

531
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: of recording music that you know really teaches one to

532
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: know the difference between singing live and singing in a booth,

533
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: and how they are different.

534
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: It's a completely different skill.

535
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: Exactly, but they are separate, you know, attentions to detail

536
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: and so what we do on stage and what I

537
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: do eight times a week, you know, more than one

538
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty something times. Now, is it exists in

539
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: this mold that I really like and the album is

540
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: not that we had to undo a lot of that

541
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: because suddenly what you're doing on stage feels too big

542
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 4: the record, So I happen to be able to switch, okay,

543
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: But when I listen to it and it sounds beautiful,

544
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: it's definitely meant for the album. It's the radio edit

545
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: as of you know, just in its performance and how

546
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: people will be able to ingest it now. The only

547
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: thing that I have trepidation about is people hearing that

548
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: and then seeing it live going like that's not Those

549
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: aren't the shows that I know. But hopefully they will care.

550
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: They'll be so enraptured with the show. But that's the

551
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 4: first time I've had to think about it, because like,

552
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 4: seeing it now is such a rarefied air because people

553
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: don't have the cast albums, so they can genuinely come

554
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 4: in not knowing anything, and that's so exciting, Like if

555
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: we're lucky, if we're lucky man, and I say this

556
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: with kind of a bit of humor, but if we're

557
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: lucky in like this, this show's running for several years.

558
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: I hope it runs for decades a decade. Hope it

559
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 4: runs forever. But with any luck, people love the cast album,

560
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: and in like four or five years, somebody who's on

561
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: the final outskirts of like the groundswell of knowing about

562
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: a Broadway show. It's like the guy that doesn't see

563
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: Broadway shows, the guy that couldn't like doesn't look like

564
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: this is he heard this was good from somebody, but

565
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: like five years ago and I was finally seeing it.

566
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: We'll come see the show and go, I don't know,

567
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: it's a little overrated because there will have been so much.

568
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 4: It's like seeing Hamilton now or Book a Mormon now.

569
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: It is now so popular that the tide shift, that

570
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: the chide shifts. The bar is no longer the new

571
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: sexy hot spot. People will come and they start hating

572
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: on it because it's it's becomes a popular So that's

573
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: like if you're lucky, right, but that'll be enforced by

574
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: things like cast albums and people being used to it

575
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 4: or expecting certain things. So that kind of scare me

576
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: a little bit, but it gives me a new feeling

577
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: that I've never felt before, which is like, I don't

578
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: know how to feel. It'll be great to give people

579
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: access to the show outside of New York, outside of

580
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: the Alasco Theater, and for that, I'm extremely grateful and

581
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 4: very excited for people to get excited about. But it

582
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 4: will be different than what we do, and of course

583
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: only I will notice these things, Like right, there's a

584
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: couple of dialogue bits that you know are baked in

585
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 4: there that I listen to and it's mastered, like it's

586
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: in the in the thing, and I'm like, no, that's

587
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: not how we do it, and like forever, it's gonna

588
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: bug me forever, but I'm excited.

589
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: That's part of the charm of a cast word though

590
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: exactly Like you listen to those and I think, honestly,

591
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: I know it probably feels crazy, but objectively, like my

592
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: nerdy music Braden, some there's a big difference between certain

593
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: I won't name shows, but when they try to do

594
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: what's on the stage exactly on the recording, it doesn't translate,

595
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't it doesn't sound good, it's not recorded. Well,

596
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: there's certain shows more recently who have done sort of

597
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: like what you're talking about. It's a bit more i

598
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: don't know, polished or it's toned down whatever capacity for

599
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: the recording studio, and it hits. Yeah, and like the

600
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: talking bits you know, sometimes feel a little off, but

601
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: like that's sort of like what happens theater its theater.

602
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: Listen, I think it's gonna I haven't listened to it yet.

603
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 4: I think we're in very, very very capable hands the

604
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: people whose whose tastes and minds and hearts have gotten

605
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: us as far as we've gotten. Yeah, I'm pretty sure

606
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: we'll know how.

607
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: To sounds like a full team effort, Like everybody has

608
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: really shown up for your Guys show on every single level,

609
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: in every single department, and they all because they all

610
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: have the same feeling, that positive feeling we are doing

611
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: something great and we're getting something great from it.

612
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 4: Well, A very important thing to denote here is that

613
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: this is a small group of really passionate people being

614
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: given a lot of support. That is the alchemy that

615
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 4: is allowing for this. Because if like for instance, one

616
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: of my best buddies from San Francisco. I've known this

617
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: Pirl since she was five, who grew up doing theater

618
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 4: together at San Francisco. Julia Madison is one of the

619
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: two writers on the music for Death Becomes Her. You know,

620
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm saying anything that would be slightly controversial,

621
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 4: but you can imagine that working under a situation like

622
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 4: it's a it's a popular movie universal and in case

623
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: anybody from universals listening to this, I'm not saying anything bad,

624
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: but I'm just saying it the negotiation between a lot

625
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: of approvals and people can be can can make things

626
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: a little yeah, a lot of hoops. And again I'm

627
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: being careful with my words because I don't want to

628
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: try and make it sound like any Yeah, it's just

629
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 4: that that's that's just there's there's more people to consider.

630
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: It's a different process. And to be fair, it's like

631
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 4: you have people who are protecting the empire and have

632
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: an established empire to look out for, and so there's

633
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: a lot of fear and concern in the way. You know,

634
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 4: parents being careful, don't touch that. We don't have to, like,

635
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 4: you don't know what's going to be good or bad,

636
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: but you're doing your best. Everyone's doing their best right

637
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: as opposed to because there's no empire to protect or

638
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: to be worried about. It's this thing that I like

639
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: to call castle building. Right before you have to worry

640
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 4: about protecting the interests of the empire, and you can

641
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: just be this is a big musical theater queen reference,

642
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 4: but you can just be Mickey and Judy putting a

643
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: show like hey kids, let's put on a show in

644
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 4: the barn, and you're just building it. You now have

645
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 4: a sort of freedom to just like build it, just

646
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: to sure why not? And I think some of the

647
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: most exciting things that have ever happened in creative culture

648
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 4: history and pop culture history is when we're castle building.

649
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: Is when people who have the support and the resources

650
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: just kind of go forth into thing. The Disney Renaissance

651
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: is because of that. Disney had everything to lose in

652
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: the late eighties and suddenly they went excuse me, they

653
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: had nothing to lose because they were so in the

654
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: tank that the idea of making you know, let's make

655
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: fair tale musicals again. Oh no, it's a horrible idea. Boys.

656
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 4: We need to make g I Joe and change me

657
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: Nina Turtles and the idea that some you know, young

658
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: turks had to go let's get the guys from a

659
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 4: little Shop of Horrors, right, that weird musical off Broadway

660
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 4: to write a musical about you know, about Hans Christian

661
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 4: Assent tale Like sure, fine whatever, just go like there

662
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 4: is something of value to you know, to be gleaned

663
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: from that. So, yeah, there's a lot of passion there

664
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: because it's a smaller group of people that can really

665
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: you know, exercise their creative muscles not unchecked, but like

666
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: with support.

667
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: You know, totally totally Now that makes that makes sense.

668
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: I will say this has definitely made me, like I

669
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: was thinking of there's a lot of musicals I was

670
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: thinking developing that were based on pre existing things that

671
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: this processes made me go, what am I doing this?

672
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: Just just do something original just that way you have

673
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: more room. Well, it's hard. If I knew if we

674
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: if we could all just do that, we all we'd

675
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: all do it. It's hard.

676
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: I get it.

677
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.

678
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: You can see me walking the nagshells about saying anything

679
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: about it as it comes her. I'm just I'm just

680
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 4: being careful just because like that is a different process.

681
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's in a different process. It's also like with success,

682
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: like you were saying, in five years when this, when

683
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: your show is like still going and is being redone

684
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: all around the world and in schools and things, then

685
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: now that is the castle that needs to be protected, right,

686
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: so people.

687
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: Will feel like we got it exactly.

688
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: It's a different it's a different step in the process.

689
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: And so you guys are at the beginning of that

690
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: creating the original piece where death becomes her for example,

691
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: when that's and that was the sand castle building. Now

692
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 2: they're protecting the Yeah.

693
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Good point.

694
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's absolute. Right.

695
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: You've had a lot of Glee friends come and visit

696
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: and see your show.

697
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, where have you guys been?

698
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: I know, I said, we're gonna we're gonna mention this

699
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: and we're going to draw attention to the fact that

700
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: we haven't been there.

701
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: Guys, I don't you don't live in New York. It's

702
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: really okay. I'm always touched when people come through and like,

703
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 4: sorry took some like there's no like requirement to to

704
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: see anything.

705
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: It's okay.

706
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 4: I appreciate you about it.

707
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to text you after this because I have

708
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: a plan in my head to come see you soon.

709
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: Okay, guys, like, with any luck, I'll be in the

710
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: show for as long as the theater gods will have

711
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 4: me as long as I can do it. So you

712
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: have you have a long run with ye.

713
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: Yes, Kristin.

714
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: Kristin Chanleer just came on the show and she said

715
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: you were wonderful.

716
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 4: She came, Yeah, I know. She she was a really

717
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: we just opened. It was a big week, like basically

718
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 4: the entire Wicked.

719
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's cool.

720
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: Cynthia came like the day after the movie opened, and

721
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 4: I was like, I feel like I'm talking like the Queen.

722
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: But it's funny because those people are like, I'm back

723
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: in New York.

724
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: I gotta go see some shows. I gotta see theater.

725
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: I need it, you know.

726
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: Like no, I was very grateful that Chris.

727
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 4: Chris had the greatest posts. I thought that was hilarious.

728
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 4: Somebody showed me. You guys know, I'm not really an Instagram,

729
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 4: but somebody showed to me. I was like, that's so good.

730
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: We the fans are crazy now. They're like, oh, the

731
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: Clean Clan has gotten divorced from the show, like.

732
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 4: A yeah, we still have.

733
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: You know, I love it.

734
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: Kevin also mentioned and I'm pitching this now to you

735
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: because Kevin mentioned that we uh, he's never sang it

736
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: Elsie Fest, and I was like, well, I can't see

737
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 3: the same because I have sang it Elsie.

738
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I still owe you about a zillion unicorns.

739
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: I joke about it, but it's fine.

740
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: But Kevin's like, we have to sing Breakaway and Loser

741
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: like me because now we're in season five.

742
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm wondering the remake. The remake, Yes.

743
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: Yes, we are. We announcing that right now? Do you guys?

744
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: When do Elsie twenty twenty five?

745
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll come in there.

746
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: Sure, well you you brought it up, not me.

747
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: We're pitching ourselves door.

748
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: You have to decide, yes, you have.

749
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 4: You can come on, you can. You're always welcome to

750
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 4: Elsie Fest. Like, I'm so lucky to have anybody from

751
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: the show. I don't ask you out of being polite,

752
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: like I don't want to make you guys do this,

753
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: but we did.

754
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: We did talk about it.

755
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: We talked about it, and we're like, would we be

756
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: able to actually sing Breakaway live?

757
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

758
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah r And I'm like it would be so great

759
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: the three of us rising on stage. Michael Well, I

760
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: will say.

761
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: Though, like the fans are amazing there. It's exactly our audience.

762
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 3: It's so much fun. You're like, I'm back on tour,

763
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: Like I would love that.

764
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: I would absolutely love if you guys came more. The

765
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: more the merry, as far as.

766
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: You got to get cord In on it for me

767
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: and then were good to go.

768
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 4: Chord showing up to sing Billy Joel this past year, just.

769
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I cannot.

770
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 4: Showing up like you see the sunglasses on. Maybe not

771
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 4: have Okay, I'll throw you guys. I mean, I don't

772
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: like throwing tea, but this will be the most to

773
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: throw anybody under the bus. Chord shows up and I'm

774
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 4: just like Homie, I can smell the tequila from like

775
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: the dressing room, Like, yeah, I'm having fun in New York.

776
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, I can smell that.

777
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: That's a good impression.

778
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a great time. We do, we do.

779
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: Wait, so we are on season five and this is

780
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: a Glee podcast.

781
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: I have to ask you why you're Blaine has met

782
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: Shirley McLean. Now Blaine is with Shirley McLean.

783
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a fever?

784
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: Dream that was totally what was that?

785
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: Like, I was just eating it up with a spoon.

786
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: I just was unabashedly like just bending her ear at

787
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: every possible moment and just asking her stories. And I think,

788
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: you know a person like that. I don't know if

789
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: this is true, but I'd like to think this is true.

790
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: Like I was hopefully thinking like a young person getting

791
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 4: excited about her career would be fun for her and

792
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: not like I'm pandering like I was. It's like everybody

793
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: wins in this.

794
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: You're the right person to pair with her, Yeah, I

795
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: think so.

796
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: I was like trying to say, like, no, I'm genuinely interested,

797
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 4: like telling you this son of this son or this,

798
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: and like she would And so I don't know if

799
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: I was annoying her. Maybe I was, but I got

800
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: the sense that she was cool with sort of shaping.

801
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: I've kind of forgotten everything specifically, but like it was

802
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: just being able to talk about all of her days

803
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 4: with Frank and Sammy and Dean. I mean, she was

804
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: the she was she was the the girl of the

805
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: rat pack, and so she would I would ask her,

806
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: is there anything you can't This is one thing I

807
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 4: do remember. It is like there anything you can't, like,

808
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 4: what's like the craziest story that you have. She's like, well,

809
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: I can't tell it because some of the Mob guys

810
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: are still alive. And I was like, I didn't say

811
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: that they're going to do with the mob, like you

812
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: just you said it, not me, but her like hesitation, yeah,

813
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: question answered, there's something the farious enough that she can't

814
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: say because there are people of scary organized crime ability

815
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: and power and resources that would make it an issue

816
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 4: for her to tell this guy on set, so totally.

817
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: Or maybe that's just a really good line that she

818
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 4: gave me. Either way, that's the way. It was a

819
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: very memorable moment. Yeah, I spent a lot of time

820
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 4: with it was so weird and awesome, Like, what a

821
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 4: kooky lady. I just rewatched your charity again the other day.

822
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're just.

823
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: Like damn this girls. If you guys, who was the

824
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 4: last time you just watched The Apartment?

825
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Oh good, I've ever seen it.

826
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: She's so fucking good, dude. It's crazy. It's a great movie.

827
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: I mean, first of it's like a famous movie. It's

828
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 4: not like yeah, like wow, I discovered this little movie

829
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: like The Apartment is amazing she's so good in it.

830
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 4: Jacqu Lemon is amazing and just like, wow, you were

831
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 4: very good about the Pajama Game. You guys know how

832
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 4: like you guys know her like famous story, right, Kevin,

833
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: this is like some musical theater trivia for you. I'm

834
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: assuming so Shirley McLean's sort of like famous moment, her

835
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 4: stepping out. I forget the name. I should know. I've

836
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: lot of people will probably get mad at for this,

837
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 4: but famously the Pajama Game, which is like a hit

838
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: musical and browd. I forget sixties and sixties, uh, I

839
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 4: forget the actress that was out. But it was one

840
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: of these sort of you know, the you know, showbiz

841
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: moments like you're on kid, yeah, and like I just

842
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: want a chance and and apparently she just ate like

843
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: so hard and like and then I don't know if

844
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: she ended up replacing her whatever, it was like the

845
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: moment had enough heat on it. She and that was

846
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: her skyrocket oh wow, or so the story goes.

847
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: But like it was Carol Haney. She had a sprained ankle.

848
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: Are you looking it up? Yeah, there's there like I've

849
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 4: heard in sort of in popular culture, like at this

850
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: Tonight's performance. The role the role of Blah will be

851
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 4: played by Shirley Klain. Is like the meaning of and

852
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: and now that the era of this this person will commence. Wow,

853
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: which is a cool story because you've heard that kind

854
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 4: of like trope and she's like the the like patient

855
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 4: zero on that trope.

856
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I had no idea.

857
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 4: Yeah it makes sense.

858
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: I mean watching her in the episode, her first episode,

859
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: it's just like, I mean, she's some people just have

860
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: it and doesn't matter how old she is, she steps

861
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: in there and is so comfortab. She's doing like her

862
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: own bit. And yeah, yeah, she was very there. Yeah,

863
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: because she's been doing it for so long. Do you

864
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: while we're doing musical theater trivia, Kevin Quick, what musical

865
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna know anything?

866
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 4: Is the song that we sang together from extra points

867
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: if you can, if you can say who just who?

868
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 4: Also won the Tony for singing. It went on its

869
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 4: revival recently.

870
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: Oh god, now I'm forgetting the song. You're just throw them?

871
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 4: Oh then time the time you given time to make

872
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 4: time season in just no time at all. I don't know,

873
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 4: it's all right, I knew you wouldn't, so this is unfair.

874
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: It's from Pippin by Stephen Schwartz, who also wrote the

875
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: music for the music called Wicked.

876
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: Yes, and Gods, I know that one.

877
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it's from Pippen and Andrew Martin won the

878
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: return as I forget the character's name, but at that

879
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 4: revival that Beatina Miller also won.

880
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 1: Yes, we haven't seen that. We haven't seen that song yet.

881
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah we're not.

882
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 4: Oh, I thought, I don't see I don't know where

883
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 4: things are.

884
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: I know, I know we're tapping Peace of my Heart,

885
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: the one you sang with her.

886
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 4: I forgot that that even happened.

887
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, wild it was started, and I was like, wait,

888
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: I also had never seen this episode because I'm not

889
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: in it, so I hadn't watched it.

890
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: This is a wild one. This is a wild one.

891
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: We are such a blurt.

892
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't remember anything to If you had,

893
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have remembered that that we're saying. And now

894
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 4: you're open.

895
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't miss getting the musical thing.

896
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're planning a variety show. You're planning a show.

897
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: She's planning to like, like, you know, make talent, right.

898
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 4: Is she singing that song at like a gala?

899
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, she calls on stage and you do a

900
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: duet because she's raising money.

901
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Chris Kurt was the one who saw her first art

902
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: gallery space.

903
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I do remember that because that was Eric Roberts.

904
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, that's right.

905
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: There.

906
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: Unclear unclear.

907
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: Did he have a part rest of this season is

908
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: like a little weird.

909
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 4: Did he have a part of part I just forgot

910
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 4: what it was.

911
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: No, he had like three lines.

912
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: That's wow, so weird.

913
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: Was he like close to Shirley McLain. Was that part

914
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: of the deal?

915
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think he played well. You guys don't have

916
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: to remember that at this point in Glee's life, like

917
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 4: the guest stars, he was like, wow, you have to

918
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: be on like Lee was it? It's like all the

919
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: people that we were watching Friends. You're like, oh wow,

920
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: like we're on friends. His Friends was a hit show.

921
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 4: Lee was a hit show. So every you know, Shirley

922
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: McLean was on it. Something like Eric Roberts is like wow,

923
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: hey dude like mc cleans and is that like that's it?

924
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 4: That makes sense?

925
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, we'll see.

926
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: I forgot that he was there, that's right. Yeah, that's

927
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 4: where I met him, And I remember that day because

928
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: we were shooting it. I'm a big architecture la architecture nerd.

929
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 4: And there's that famous building because of the s that's

930
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: something building. There's all these beautiful like steel elevators and

931
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 4: all this beautiful like like iron lace.

932
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: Yes, it's gorgeous.

933
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where like that's where holding was and we're

934
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 4: just sitting there. That's why I was like asking. One

935
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 4: thing I didn't ask her enough about was like the

936
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 4: extraterrestrial stuff, alien stuff, because she's really into all that,

937
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: and I wish i'd gotten more into that. I remember

938
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: asking her about like this like blood transfusion thing that

939
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: like her and like Keith Richards and all these other

940
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 4: people that are like essentially vampires just like staying young

941
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: and spry, like do regularly, like she would go to

942
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 4: like some partisans Czerl to just like get new blood,

943
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 4: you know. And I was like, work, dude, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

944
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 4: If it's working for you, if you're not hurt anybody,

945
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: as long as there's nothing as long as there's no

946
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 4: mob guys involved in this, right, you seem to be

947
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 4: in great health. So that sounds just just sdandy for you.

948
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: I would love to have heard.

949
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 4: I'm probably misquoting that I was a blood transfusion, but

950
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: in my mind that's what it sounded like.

951
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: It's like the vampire facial where people the blood put

952
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: on exactly exactly, so she's getting well.

953
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: Now it's the salmon jizz or something like that.

954
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 4: What Sam es, Yeah, that is It's like ancient remedy salmon.

955
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 2: Yeah what now, I don't know.

956
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 4: I'm just her Kevin. I don't know.

957
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: There is a thing now look it up.

958
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: Salmon jes unicorn blood. I don't whatever.

959
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: Why I make that up? Because I am not mafia? Okay,

960
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: why y Yeah, we're talking about this.

961
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: There's too there's too many mafia people still live for

962
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: you to talk about sandwiches like that's keeping on the

963
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 4: d L.

964
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm in New York. We all need to play mafia.

965
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: That's what we need to do.

966
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's I mean, I keep saying why this show

967
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: is so fun Outside of the show, there is like

968
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: the fun of being in a show, right, a small show.

969
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: So it's a small community. We love each other. It's

970
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: so wonderful. And as I like to joke, it's like, well, guys,

971
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 4: there's time, you know, just wait till this enough seasons

972
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 4: go by now, but we we we truly love each

973
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 4: other and like that. I there are days where just

974
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 4: the other day, we played a company wide game of

975
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: Traders that belonged over several weeks and oh, dude, one

976
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: of our assistants stage managers, it's such a good job

977
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 4: of Like we had our weekly meetings and we voted

978
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 4: and we had all the ship. It was so well

979
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: put together and such a robust thing. And it was

980
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: the reveal was last week and everybody went sucking nuts

981
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: and like weeks and weeks and weeks, and after that

982
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 4: final meeting, I just went, there can't be a more

983
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 4: fun place to work, Like, I just think it was

984
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 4: so much fun. It's like we're in camp. It's so

985
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: much fun. Cool people are coming to see it. And

986
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 4: then on our in between time we're playing like Traders.

987
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good.

988
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: I'm just so happy for you. You're like you're smashing it,

989
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: You're nailing it.

990
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 4: It's a blast. I can't wait to share with you. Guys.

991
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: Do you play Dollar Friday?

992
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: No, you guys don't do Dollar Friday. It's a small cast.

993
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: If it's really small, then we've all We'll.

994
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: Tell you what we are doing now and I'm and

995
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 4: I'm leading this. In fact, when we're done, I have

996
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: to I have to do this. I didn't want to

997
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: do this when we were on Glee together, but like,

998
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: languages are a big part of my life, Like I

999
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: speak a few different Nagers, and like it's one of

1000
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 4: my biggest hobbies, is like learning, Like like I know

1001
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: if I said this when we're talking over the pandemic,

1002
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 4: but over the pandemic, Like I seriously dove into learning

1003
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 4: how to read and write and speak Japanese. I took

1004
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 4: two hundred days and I actually taught myself to peak Japanese.

1005
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 4: And this is like a thing that I've gotten really

1006
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 4: into with different languages and getting other people involved and

1007
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 4: kind of it's like having workout buddies and holding people

1008
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 4: in travel. So for the month of March, because March

1009
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 4: first was Korea's Independence Day, because of the thirty it's

1010
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 4: a thirty day program, I was like, for the month

1011
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 4: of March, We're going to do a thirty day learning

1012
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 4: Korea challenge. Yeah, every day I wake up and I

1013
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 4: listen to my Korean and it's such like a wonderful

1014
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 4: part of my day.

1015
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very a good way to exercise

1016
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 1: your brain as well.

1017
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 4: It is. It's something that's tony separate from like peering

1018
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: land or theater land. Just creating new neural pathways and another.

1019
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: Places a smart hobby to have.

1020
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but wait, hold on, what's dollar Friday?

1021
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: Okay, So Dollar Friday is it probably works better with

1022
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: bigger casts. So where everybody donates a dollar on Friday,

1023
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: and then intermission, a cast member draws out you write

1024
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: your name on your dollar, and you cast member draws

1025
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: out a dollar, and whoever's name on it wins the pot.

1026
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 3: And so somebody wins like a pot of.

1027
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: However much money was in there.

1028
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 3: And like when we did it in The King and I,

1029
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: it was like a cast of I.

1030
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: Think fifty two people. We had a really good cast, yeah,

1031
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: and so we would all.

1032
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: Participate and so people would make like, you know, you

1033
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: could throw in a dollar, you've done, five dollars, whatever

1034
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 3: you want, and so you would like make a bunch

1035
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 3: of money, and different cast members on each Friday would

1036
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: either do a home or a song. And so they

1037
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 3: had like the kids do a riff on tomorrow, and

1038
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: we did like a dollar Friday song.

1039
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: And it's just a fun way to like have you know,

1040
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: bring more. Yeah, good for morale.

1041
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: It's kind of like snob like Saturday Night on Broadway.

1042
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, we used to do Dollar Friday.

1043
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: That is so fun. Yeah, it's a small cast. Probably

1044
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 4: couldn't do the whole casting company. Yeah, yeah, will come up.

1045
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 4: I mean luckily I would. We'll run for a while,

1046
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 4: so there's room for that. There's room for another month

1047
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 4: of Korean Another game of Traders. You know it's.

1048
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 2: The Trader is brilliant. I'm so jealous of that.

1049
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was intense, dude, like people were

1050
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: like getting real like taking it personally.

1051
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: How many traders were there?

1052
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 4: There were three, And it's too hard to like explain

1053
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 4: the interworkings of what happened, but let's just say the

1054
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 4: reveal was like the best the Deceit was at an

1055
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 4: all time high. The person that people were protecting with

1056
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 4: every fiber of their being like turned out to be

1057
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 4: the trader. It was. It was delicious. It was so

1058
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 4: I was I was a townsperson. I was kind of

1059
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 4: open I could do something like be a trader, but uh,

1060
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: I wasn't. But just ship like that. It's just so fun.

1061
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 4: It's so yeah, well, when you guys come, we'll uh, well,

1062
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 4: we'll have to tie one on afterwards. We'll have we'll

1063
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 4: do a nice little Broadway posting. Would you guys be

1064
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 4: in a situation where you came together in New York

1065
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 4: or would you be separately?

1066
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 2: Probably probably to separate, maybe there in spirit together exactly. Yeah. Yeah,

1067
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 2: I'll come back when Jenna can go and see it again.

1068
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 4: I'll say this, I don't see Broadway shows more than once.

1069
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: Typically it's a lot of time, it's a lot of money,

1070
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 4: it's a lot of you know, you can't always do that,

1071
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 4: especially there's so many things to see and other you

1072
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 4: know that you have to prioritize. But I've had friends

1073
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 4: that aren't even theater people that have come back more

1074
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 4: than more than once. I love that because there's there's

1075
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 4: it's more difficult. It works. Yeah, I mean like there's

1076
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 4: a lot of things I would say, you don't, Like

1077
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 4: I'm in place where somebody said they're going to come back,

1078
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 4: and you're like, you don't have to. This one has

1079
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 4: there's a real watchability to it that is really fun.

1080
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 4: People people want to sit in different sides of the

1081
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 4: house see different things.

1082
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: I also love how short it is, or how compact

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00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: it is.

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00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 4: For you you were saying. I was like, there's your

1085
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 4: problem right there.

1086
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: We don't have to that's right.

1087
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: You don't have an intermission. It's like, come from away,

1088
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: how good? Ah, so satisfied out the door. It's really

1089
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: really really really great.

1090
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, I'm just a pig and.

1091
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: Ship honestly though, like that's the dream, that's the dream.

1092
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: I'm really Yeah, there's no other way to say it.

1093
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 4: It's a terrifying thing to say because you're like, of course,

1094
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 4: well now what, but also there's no other way, but

1095
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 4: you have so you just say it.

1096
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: You have it, and not everybody gets that.

1097
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: Most people don't.

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00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 4: So one day when it's not here, I will get

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00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 4: to say it was.

1100
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, and I was there present. You're aware of it,

1101
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: you're appreciative of it in the moment, and that's all

1102
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: you can ask for it.

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00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll do a recap podcast about it.

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00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, maybe happy recap. I mean, look, that's what's

1105
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 4: nice about all of our involvement in Glee and the

1106
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 4: way that I feel about the show is that you know,

1107
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 4: the the thing, those things areier than us, and they

1108
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 4: with any luck with the you know, hopefully we'll outlive

1109
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 4: us in a way that is uh you know uh

1110
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 4: again positive and enduring and in this in the sweet,

1111
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 4: wonderful ways that we would hope anything that you're a

1112
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: part of can can live. So yeah, getting to be

1113
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 4: able to be the forefront of that for this is

1114
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: is is a really fun exciting thing. Man. Like I

1115
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: like in the way that I had such a great

1116
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 4: time on Glee and I'm happy to talk about it

1117
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 4: and show up for it. I already feel that way

1118
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 4: about this show. I've been barely in six months, So

1119
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 4: bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you in it. Thanks for taking

1121
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: time on your day because.

1122
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: Precious rehearsal, or lack of rehearsal, because we'll just do

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00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 4: it on the day and no.

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00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: Pres I rehearsed Indre in apartment. Yeah I remember that bedroom. Yeah,

1125
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: I came over and learned it and like, I.

1126
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 4: Don't know, and that's a hard song and you smashed it.

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00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: That was really special.

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00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: It was hard, but it was really fun to do.

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00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't have those theater brains that you

1130
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: two have. It takes me a little longer. I'm gonna

1131
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: need some rehearsal.

1132
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 4: Wait, Kevin. How how was it? I'm sorry I missed it.

1133
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: I was I fell it was so much fun?

1134
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 4: Would you would you come back and do Broadway?

1135
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1136
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah it. You know everybody always goes from the outside

1137
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: looking in, like wow, how do you do it? And

1138
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, because you do it well.

1139
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: I still don't fully understand how you do it because

1140
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: I only had to do like eleven shows and it

1141
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: was like a full month process, and which was perfect

1142
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: for that show we did, you know, you can totally

1143
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: We put that show up in two weeks and did

1144
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: it and then but I also something about that show

1145
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: where you know, people are coming in and enjoying it

1146
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: and they're laughing and it's snarky and it's all the

1147
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: things I love in it show or you know, entertainment

1148
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: experience and so like that was also fulfilling on that

1149
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: side of it. So doing that type of show was

1150
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: so much fun. That was like, I don't know how

1151
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: people go do like serious plays for three and a

1152
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: half hours.

1153
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't envy our Queen Audra down the street

1154
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 4: at all. I do not do the She's obviously she's

1155
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 4: an animal and she's doing extraordinary work. But I'm like,

1156
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: whoa that is? That is tough because not only is

1157
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 4: it a hard enough feet, but you also have the

1158
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 4: weight of everyone's expectation in comparison and the legacy of

1159
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: that production and that that that part and that show.

1160
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 4: It's like whoa that. I mean she has the muscles

1161
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 4: for it, right, but like and I don't envy that.

1162
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's so I'm happy to be part of,

1163
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: you know, like a cog in the machine, happy to

1164
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: just be part of like a crew like that.

1165
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 4: And it was I'm still voting for you guys to

1166
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 4: do a little shop.

1167
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: Thanks.

1168
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I the b has started.

1169
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going in there like it.

1170
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to London next month to do a show there.

1171
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 4: So what I'm sure you're doing the focks. Oh I've

1172
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 4: somebody told me about this awesome.

1173
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 2: Yes, that's incredible fun And that will be like a

1174
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: little longer. That's like a six week grow in London. Yeah,

1175
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: you're kind of yeah in a way.

1176
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 4: I mean it's relative to what what you expect your

1177
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 4: body to do. Like I've been pretty diligent about like

1178
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 4: the way I'm treating my body and everything because I

1179
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 4: know this is a long haul. Like if I know

1180
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 4: it's for a certain amount of time, I kind of

1181
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 4: get a little funky, you know, yeah, yeah, take some

1182
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 4: risks maybe, but yeah, you just do what you have

1183
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 4: to do. I mean, I you have the muscle for it.

1184
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, totally.

1185
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 4: You already know what you're doing. And I what makes

1186
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 4: it fun is that it's a different audience every day,

1187
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 4: you know, so it always feels new and fresh. And

1188
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: if you like the work enough and you like the

1189
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 4: people you're working on with, you can do You can

1190
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 4: do it for a long time. Like I dude, I've

1191
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 4: been doing. Like I said, I passed my threshold, like

1192
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 4: I think it was one hundred and twenty performances, was

1193
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 4: the most ever done it show. I'm now well past

1194
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 4: that and it doesn't feel like a lot at all.

1195
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 2: That's so nice.

1196
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 3: It's surprising, Like you learn after that first like stint

1197
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: of like three two months, and you're like, I know

1198
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 3: where I have to be, Like I know how far

1199
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 3: I can push it, I know how far I have

1200
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 3: to take it back.

1201
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: And then you just know and then your body.

1202
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 3: Does it and you're like, oh, even after a day

1203
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 3: where you're like, I don't know if this is gonna

1204
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 3: happen today and you do, You're like, Okay, it wasn't

1205
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,479
Speaker 3: my back, but yeah, but you know.

1206
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 4: But you know how to do it. What's the longest

1207
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 4: run you've ever done.

1208
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 3: Jenna, Well, as a kid, I did a year Spring Waken,

1209
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 3: I did a year.

1210
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: But that was also a swing you know thing, so that.

1211
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: Was truly theater every day, like ready to go.

1212
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I wasn't on stage swing too for

1213
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: a part of it, so and we went on a lot,

1214
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: so we were very lucky. And then a waitress I

1215
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 3: did for three months, so that was I don't know, yeah, three.

1216
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 4: Months is it's not too bad. It's like fifteen sixteen

1217
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 4: weeks and.

1218
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: Something that it's great. It's great.

1219
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Kevin, your Broadway moment is inevitable.

1220
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: It's coming.

1221
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, yes, but great time. Also, like the

1222
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: community of it, the process of it. I really really enjoyed.

1223
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 4: I have you kids, Yeah, you can really go enjoy yourself,

1224
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 4: like you can do all the fun things that I

1225
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 4: could do like ten years ago, which was like you

1226
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 4: do a show and you have dinner at like eleven,

1227
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 4: I'm like out taking Mae crisis.

1228
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: Well, I get sick with a gust of winds, so

1229
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: I have to really.

1230
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: Be careful, so I take that back.

1231
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: But all the same anything.

1232
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 4: But but you can sleep all day, yes you can.

1233
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 4: People with kids can't do this like you can just

1234
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 4: sleep all war. That's the that's the hardest challenge. So

1235
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 4: that's why I'm rooting for you to do it. So

1236
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 4: I can live vicariously through your ability to.

1237
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: Say I am fully down. If anyone will have me,

1238
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm willing, and.

1239
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: I know people that know people that would be.

1240
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: So fun to have you.

1241
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: People, Darren, We love you, Thank you.

1242
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 4: Yes, I can't wait to.

1243
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: Wait to see stage come Happy Ending playing.

1244
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 4: Now at the Alasko Theater. I will be in it

1245
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 4: for many many, many many more months, if not longer

1246
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 4: than that. You get your tickets wherever you get tickets.

1247
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: The cast album comes out Friday.

1248
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: Get the cast recording. Hell yeah, thanks.

1249
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 4: Guys, Thank you, bye, Thank you so much, Darren Chris.

1250
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: Everybody go see maybe Happy Ending and so happy so happy.

1251
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: There you have it our very own Blaine.

1252
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,479
Speaker 2: He deserves he deserves us. Thank you Darren for coming

1253
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 2: back again. See the first person to come on here

1254
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: three times from Glee three three two. We did the

1255
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 2: Christmas episode and then he's done two separate interviews. I

1256
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: think he may be Christmas episode. Remember we filmed it

1257
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 2: on stage at the iHeart Theater.

1258
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh oh. Technically, you're right, you're right.

1259
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: He's MVP.

1260
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: You're right, and he is the busiest of anybody.

1261
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: But it makes sense. He's always always up for whatever

1262
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: he shows up. Well, go see a show, listen to

1263
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: the cast recording. Thank you, Darren and That's what you

1264
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: really miss Thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram

1265
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,840
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1266
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: to write us a review and leave us five stars.

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Speaker 2: See you next time.