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I wouldn't 30 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: say out duals Levis, but somehow again pulls a late 31 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: fourth quarter not super late, but a fourth quarter drive 32 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: that was the difference in the game. And the Steelers, 33 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: while struggling to score touchdowns on a consistent basis, are 34 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: five and three because they got a really good defense. 35 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: So we'll dive into that. Mike Vrabele the Titans, as 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: well as some of the big games this weekend, Chiefs, Dolphins, Bill's, Bengals, Cowboys, Eagles, 37 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: very very excited for this upcoming weekend, a lot of 38 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 2: good football games. 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Okay, Let's face it, I 65 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: wouldn't call tonight the best game as a lot of 66 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: these Thursday night games are as many of you hit 67 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: me up in the DMS and the tweets you said. 68 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: Al Michaels screwed up about three times within five minutes, 69 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: mispronouncing names, calling first downs when they're short, par for 70 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 2: the course. Now love al legend. Still a pretty rough 71 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: listen coming off one of his better games last week 72 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: today was rough. Now the venue Pittsburgh at night places rocking. 73 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: If you love football hard to not like the terrible 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: towels you got JJ in the house. Let's start with 75 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: the Steelers, simply put, Like I loved him coming into 76 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: this season, I thought they could compete with the AFC. 77 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: They cannot, and it all comes down to their offense. Now, 78 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't pretend to be Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren or 79 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: Mike Shanahan when it comes to offensive scheme. But clearly 80 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 2: they have enough talent right with Deontay Johnson back. Pickens 81 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: is just a fantastic physical freak. I'm not the biggest 82 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: Najie Harris, but he's more than serviceable. Especially with the 83 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: young guy Warren behind him. They have firepower and they struggle. Honestly, 84 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: the crazy part about the Steelers, and it was like 85 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: this last year when they were kind of making their 86 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: comeback after the very very slow start. Their quarterback can 87 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: look terrible the majority of the game and then he 88 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: can have a fantastic drive in the fourth quarter to 89 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: ultimately win them the game. That works against the Titans, 90 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: who are clearly not a playoff team, not going anywhere, 91 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: despite being very competitive, despite having some kind of a 92 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: random squad right now. But here's the problem. In that conference, 93 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: you have to be hell in the division. You have 94 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: two superstar players. I mean, the way Joe Burrows looked 95 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, he looks like the best player 96 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: in the league. Lamar Jackson is having an MVP type season. 97 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: Those guys just signed enormous deals. In your defense, I 98 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: give so much respect to the Steelers. They have been 99 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: consistently able my entire life. I remember a kid going 100 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: to Super Bowl parties in the nineties with the Steelers 101 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: and Lloyd and Kirklin and just Bill Cower, just like 102 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: just defense. I didn't grow up on the Steel Curtain, 103 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: but it felt like that in the nineties, And then 104 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: once they got Tomlin and the teams they built in 105 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: the late two thousands, in the early teens, they were 106 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: just so physical. And they've done it again. I mean, 107 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: they have easily the best duo rushing the passer TJ. 108 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: Watts top two or three, probably a non quarterback in 109 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: the NFL, and heih Smith. Think how many teams that 110 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: guy would be their best pass rusher. Nicka didn't even 111 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: play tonight. Hayward back. Their defense personnel wise is awesome. 112 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: Joey Porter. I was watching Joey Porter junior to night, 113 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: and you know Hopkins, I think right now, if he 114 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: ran a forty and I ran a forty, he beat me. 115 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: But I don't think he beat me by much. I mean, 116 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: I think the guy's running a five zho forty and 117 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: that speaks to his greatness as a wide receiver. He's 118 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: never been fast, but his physicality, his ability at the 119 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: point of attack. I mean last week one of his touchdowns, 120 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: he literally grabbed the corner threw him down. I think 121 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: Bolden and Kwon was a better player, but I think 122 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: they have some similar characteristics as they've been able to dominate, 123 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: never being being able to run, especially playing outside. It's 124 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: one thing playing slot, but you can put them outside 125 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: and they can still be productive. But that defense is 126 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: borderline championship worthy. I mean, definitely went healthy. That that 127 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: is a big time, you know, competitive defense that can 128 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: take you on a run, right. But offensively, obviously you 129 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: move the offensive coordinator down to the sideline, it just 130 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: looks off. They've scored over twenty five points this season 131 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: one time. That's just not gonna be good enough. How 132 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: are you gonna feel confident. Let's assume they don't win 133 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: the division and the Ravens do. They're gonna be a 134 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: let's say they're a wildcard team. They're going on the road, 135 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: maybe to Baltimore or maybe to Kansas City. How are 136 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: you gonna feel good with that offense winning a playoff 137 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: game on the road, especially multiple And this is the problem, 138 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: Like they have the culture, the ethos as a franchise, 139 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: the ability to equip their team with talented guys all 140 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: over the place, yet it feels like they're kind of 141 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: running in no man's land, right, like there there are 142 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: kind of the same team year in year out, Like 143 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: it doesn't look any different really than last year. Let's 144 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: face it. Some of their wins down the stretch were 145 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: low scoring games where the quarterback led them on a 146 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: game winning drive, yet they weren't playing They don't play 147 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: very well, like last week against watching Joe Burrow against 148 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers start to finish, He's like, we're 149 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: gonna fucking evisceraate you. You watch Lamar Jackson when the 150 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: Ravens are on, we are going to destroy you. And 151 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: obviously both those teams do not have the defense of 152 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: the Steelers if this offense to me was just felt 153 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: middle of the road. But there's a potency which they 154 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: should have and they show spurts of it because of 155 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: how talented they're wide receivers are and how explosive Warren 156 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: can be, but start to finish in a game that 157 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: they just do not have it. Now they are playing 158 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: a team that Mike Vrabel's a big time coach man. 159 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: I mean they trade away last week there are a 160 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: couple weeks ago. Their team captain Henry is who knows 161 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,119 Speaker 2: how old on his last legs. Their offensive line is patchwork. 162 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: They're playing with a second round rookie in his second 163 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: start on a short week, and they have a chance 164 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: to win the game that franchise. Like, I watched those 165 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: two teams and like, I don't think the difference the 166 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: gap between these two teams is that wide in terms 167 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: of the product on the field. Yet the Steelers have 168 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: way better players, way better players. Now, I'm not trying 169 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: to diminish Mike Tomlin. I think for a guy that 170 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: is just the team leader, right, doesn't call the offense, 171 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: doesn't call the defense. It's just kind of standing there 172 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 2: looking a lot like Mike Rabel. I just think that 173 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: Mike gets his teams to overachieve and gets more out 174 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: of it consistently. Like, would the team be as good 175 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: if you gave Mike Tomlin a team that didn't have 176 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: the talent, Like that's part of they have winning records 177 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: all the time. Well, yeah, there are one of, if 178 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: not the best drafting team in the NFL. And here's 179 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: the other thing. You know, the problem is when you 180 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: draft a quarterback who is not going to become a star. Right, 181 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: It's easy when you get even early on if the 182 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: guy struggles and you see the talent in a Josh 183 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: Allen or whatever Justin Herbert. It's another thing when you 184 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: do the mac Jones Kenny Pickett, and if your team's 185 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: good enough, he's serviceable. But it's like that's what you're 186 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: gonna roll with, Like this is gonna be your quarterback 187 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: for the next several years, Like this is what you're 188 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: dealing with. Like, let's face it, if you're a Steeler 189 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: fan right now, and you could take a step back 190 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: and be objective, what quarterback would you rather take for 191 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: the next three years? Will Levis or Kenny Pickett? Is 192 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: it even? Do you even need to think that long 193 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: about it? And I'm not claiming Will Levis is gonna 194 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: be some top ten quarterback, but the talent in the 195 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: two guys, the gap between the arm is extremely wide. 196 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: He'd be like, well, he's got a big arm. What 197 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: about the pois? Like you watch Will Levis, it's not 198 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: like he's scared back there. It's not like he's freaking 199 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: out when there's a pass rush. He showed over and 200 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: over he can slide. Now ultimately the pick at the 201 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: end of the game, you know, lost in the football game. 202 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: But what was he supposed to do. I mean, they 203 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: had no time out, she had to push the ball. 204 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: I don't hate a pick there. And they're basically just 205 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: running verticals the whole way down the field, the entire drive. 206 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: But when I watched those two quarterbacks and you're watching 207 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: one guy make a second start and the other guy 208 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: making however many starts Kenny Picketts made now fifteen twenty, 209 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: I don't even think it's close. Like I don't even 210 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: have to think. And I'm not like pounding the table 211 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: as some huge Will levisbacker. But what we saw Will 212 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: Levis last week and what we saw tonight short week. 213 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: Look who he's throwing to. Hopkins can't run Burks's Thank 214 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: god he's it looks okay. It was pretty clear that 215 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: when he hit his head, you know, on the deep 216 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: shot towards the end of the game, it looked like 217 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: he was knocked out before he even finished rolling. But 218 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: he's not a very good player. And you know, it's 219 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: hard to just hand Henry the ball over and over 220 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: when they know you're gonna hand it to them, right 221 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: and your passing game is not that explosive. So I listen, 222 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm impressed with Will Levis. I know they lost the game, 223 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: but I also think that was very eye opening of like, 224 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: your quarterback's not even as good as their quarterback, and 225 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: we don't even know how good their quarterback is. So 226 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: I think the Steelers their problem shows itself basically every week, 227 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: and it's gonna be their downfall. They cannot score points 228 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: their offense despite having Sometimes when an offense struggles to score, 229 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: like the let's use the Patriots for example, it's like, yeah, 230 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: their quarterback is average, they don't have any talent around them. 231 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 2: So when you put that combination, well, okay, if Kenny 232 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 2: Pickett's average, there's no disputing the talent that the Steelers 233 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 2: have given their quarterbacks my entire life outside right, they're 234 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: the best wide receiver drafting organization in the league. Might 235 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: not even be a close second. And I just don't 236 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: see it, really, and I don't see it especially from 237 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: a standard and a franchise that you know, kind of 238 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: holds themselves to these other teams that are competing to 239 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: win Super Bowls because they have no shot. Honestly, I'd 240 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: be surprised unless their defense scores multiple touchdowns or creates 241 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: like four or five turnovers if this team wins a 242 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: playoff game. So I think we just saw the same 243 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: thing over and over with the Steelers, and their offense 244 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: is gonna be, you know, their downfall. Let's fire around 245 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: the league because I do think this week on paper 246 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: is just pretty fantastic. Now, sometimes you get great matchups. 247 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Remember Sunday Night Football, whatever it was Week five, Cowboys Niners, 248 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: and the game sucks immediately, Bill's Miami Dolphins. Same thing, 249 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: So you never know, and sometimes random games turned out 250 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: to be fantastic. But Chiefs Dolphins in Germany, Bills Bengals 251 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: and Cowboys Eagles. It's just I mean that it doesn't 252 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: get much better. Let's start with the Chiefs and Dolphins. 253 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: I do think there are some big nights in big 254 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: days on tap for a couple coaches and a couple quarterbacks. 255 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: And when you look at the Dolphins and people for 256 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: whatever reason, and again when I say people, it might 257 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: be like ten people, five on Twitter and five on Instagram, 258 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: or always like middle Cuff, you're always shitting on the Dolphins. 259 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: Their offensive line was missing this guy and this guy 260 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: even when healthier offensive line stinks. So like, let's not 261 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: act like you got Larry Allen, Trent Williams, and Lane 262 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: Johnson went healthy. Your offensive line is a major, major liability. 263 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: Your offensive play caller, who's also your head coach, has 264 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: done a fantastic job really for two years of coaching 265 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: around that and getting rid of the football quickly. But 266 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: as a franchise, you know your team when they play 267 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: lesser opponents looks excellent. I mean, you guys last week 268 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: took over in the second half against the Patriots, but 269 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: you played two real teams. You got your doors blown 270 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: in one game against the Bills, and the Eagle Eagles 271 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: thoroughly outclassed you, especially in the second half of that game. 272 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: Now you're playing the Chiefs coming off a loss. I 273 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: think it's fair to say Andy and Mahomes are gonna 274 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: have the boys ready now A huge part of this week. 275 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: I always a little uncomfortable betting. I usually stay away 276 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: from these games. One I guess in Arizona, we're on 277 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: like half Pacific Standard time half Mountain time, so the 278 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: clocks roll back this upcoming week, but we stay forward. 279 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: So this game kicks off for me at seven thirty am. 280 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: A lot of times when it's random games, like I'm 281 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: not getting up super early to watch you know, the 282 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: Falcons play the Panthers, who cares? Or typically like the 283 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: Jags play the Texans, like no one cares, But this 284 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: game is awesome, and I plan on being up for 285 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: kickoff seven thirty am, which isn't quite six thirty. You 286 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: guys have it nice on the East Coast, but I 287 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: expect Andy and Mahomes to have the boys ready now 288 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: when it comes to the Dolphins, like if I'm gonna 289 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: take you seriously, and I said this last time when 290 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: you played the Eagles, like I'm not gonna picky to 291 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: win a playoff game, Like whenever I see you against 292 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: good teams, you lose, and honestly, it's not that close. 293 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: So there's another opportunity like the Eagles, like the Bills, 294 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: play a team that's averaging thirteen fourteen wins a season 295 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: that's going to Super Bowls. Just look good, Just look hell, 296 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: you don't even need to win the game. Just not 297 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: be like, yeah, that was a they outclassed you, and 298 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: that's happened twice now. 299 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: Now. 300 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: The other thing is like, oh, Jalen Ramsey as he's 301 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: back now, so you got your star corner and there's 302 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: a reason, Listen, I like Jalen have a lot of 303 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: respect for any high level corners that like to tackle. 304 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, most great corners aren't into tackling. And that 305 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: goes back to like Primetime Now he was so great, 306 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: Who cares? I wouldn't call Reevis some big hitter, you know, 307 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: the knock on uh Sauce Gardner not really into hitting. 308 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey will lower his shoulder and play like Richard Sermon. 309 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: A lot of respect for him as a player. There 310 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: was a reason you got him for a third round pick. 311 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: And I know he had a pick last week against 312 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: Mac Jones. A little different animal this week against Patrick Mahomes. 313 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: So I think this is a big moment for Mike 314 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: McDaniel in TUA to be viewed as like a real 315 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: playoff contender. They've had two shots so far this season 316 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: and it hasn't gone well really at all. So let's 317 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: see in Germany. Who knows how this crowd's going to be. 318 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to expect, beside coming off 319 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: one of their worst performances of the Andy Mahomes era. 320 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: The first divisional road loss of Mahomes's career. I expect 321 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: the Chiefs to be ready, so this is a big, 322 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: big test for the Dolphins. I'll never forget sitting in 323 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: my office last year Playoffs Week two, which I would 324 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: argue in theory in the playoffs or excuse me, the 325 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: second round of the playoffs, the divisional round is the 326 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: best matchups year in year out. You're getting a bunch 327 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: of teams that have super Bowl ability playing each other. 328 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: And we were robbed is the wrong word because of 329 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: what happened to damorrow. But the game didn't happen. So 330 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: there was a lot of hype coming into this game. 331 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: The Bills had been really close, the Bengals had already 332 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: gotten over the hump the previous year beating the Chiefs 333 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: and getting in to the super Bowl. The Bengals beat 334 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: the shit out of the Bills, and I went back 335 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: today and I looked at the box because I remember 336 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: watching it thinking like, this is crazy. They are getting 337 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: shoved around, and a lot of Bills fans and a 338 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: lot of people that just they're an easy team to like, right, 339 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: who doesn't like rooting for Josh Allen? Who doesn't like 340 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: watching that team? When they're rolling, but one knock can 341 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: be one physical run. Game sometimes is very hit or miss. 342 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: And in that game, they got the ball ran down 343 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: their throat. The Bengals ran for one hundred and seventy 344 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: two yards. It would be like a heavyweight fighting, you know, 345 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: a lightweight. It didn't even feel like the two teams 346 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: belonged on the same field. It was pretty embarrassing by 347 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 2: the Bills, you know, when you think about their worst loss, 348 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: like it was a gut punch the loss they had 349 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs when the Chiefs went whatever, fifty yards 350 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: in the two plays. But that was just like terrible 351 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: defensive play calling. Two all time great Hall of famers 352 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: doing freaky shit. Remember, like Kelsey and were pointing at 353 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: each other of the line that sucked. I'm not trying 354 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: to advocate that you should, like, you know, hold your 355 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: head high after that loss. But to me, that loss 356 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: was a lot different than last year. Now, if you 357 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: want to say, hey, that snowstorm came, you had to 358 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: go to Detroit, damar situation. There was a lot going on, 359 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: no doubt about it, but they made you say uncle. 360 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: And to me, this is a big game for two guys, 361 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: one like what I witnessed that at Joe Burrow last 362 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: week was like, motherfucker's I'm the best player in the league. Now, 363 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: I would say Patrick Mahomes is his resume, But if 364 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Joe's gonna play like that, you know this is both 365 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: these two guys, right. If Mahomes is kind of entrenched 366 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: based on his resume, based on the production as the 367 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: best player and best quarterback in the NFL on a 368 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: given weeks, it's usually one of these two guys going 369 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: two three, And I think you need Josh Allen to 370 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 2: find a way because, let's face it, defensively, they have 371 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: taken a lot of hits, right. They lose Milano, they 372 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 2: lose Trey, they lose Jones. They trade this week for Rasul. 373 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: Douglas saw a headline today when Gudakins called him to 374 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 2: say he was traded. He thought it was like a prank. 375 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: He hung up on him, he didn't believe him. And 376 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: then I guess the president Mike Murphy Galdham to thank 377 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: him for all of his efforts. So I listen, you 378 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: were definitely getting a more than serviceable corner. But I 379 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: guess he said after like him and Aaron Jones spent 380 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: some time they cried together. So sometimes you never know, 381 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: like it is a business. But sometimes if you don't 382 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: think you're gonna be traded, it's one thing if you're 383 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 2: Chase Young or Montes Sweat, where it's kind of clear 384 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: you've been on the block for a while. It's another 385 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: thing where it kind of comes out of nowhere. So 386 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: what you get out of this player? But I think 387 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: this is a huge week for Sean McDermott, who you know. 388 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: We said Leslie Fraser stepped away. Bullshit. Leslie Fraser was fired, right, 389 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: Leslie Fraser was fired. It's like Bob Myers. I'm watching 390 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: the Lakers Clippers game yesterday. Bob Myers like, I need 391 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: a break from basketball. I'm worn out, I'm tired. No, 392 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: you're just tired of working for Joe Lacump. You don't 393 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: need a break. I'm watching you call the Lakers Clippers. 394 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: You're still a basketball junkie. You didn't want to leave. 395 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: You just couldn't do this anymore. Like you just didn't 396 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: want to be the GM of the worst, And the's 397 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that, right. Sean McDermott fired Leslie Fraser, 398 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: and he took over. Well, what I saw and maybe 399 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: it was just coming off of bye against the Niners. 400 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: They just gave their a game. But like, if that's 401 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: the version of the offense moving forward, what like T 402 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: Higgins looked weird, he was banged up, looked fantastic last week. 403 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,239 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon looked like fucking Jerome Bettis last week. So 404 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: this is a huge test for Sean McDermott and to me, 405 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, like part of being whoever you are in 406 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: your era like Peyton Manning, Roethlisberger or when I was young, 407 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: like the farvs. The Marinos, the l Ways, sometimes your 408 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: team just needs you to carry you. And that's what 409 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: obviously the Bengals kneed with Joe Burrow and that's what 410 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: the Bill's need with Josh Allen. So I can't wait 411 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: to watch this game. I love watching these two quarterbacks. 412 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: I think there was a ton of pressure on the 413 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: Bills now obviously from a record standpoint, because they started slow. 414 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: The Bengals can't really afford some else, right, so this 415 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: is also a big game for them. I can't wait. 416 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: And then the other game is Eagles Cowboys. I'll say 417 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 2: this when Dallas, when they get momentum and they've done 418 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: it three or four times this year against the Giants. 419 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: They did it last week against the Rams. They beat 420 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: the living piss out of you. They did it one 421 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: other game where they was the Jets. When they're scoring 422 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: defensive touchdowns, when they're scoring special teams touchdowns, they look 423 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: like a college team. They're all dancing in the end zone. 424 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: You got no clue who's scoring. It's like dudes blocking punts, 425 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: dudes returning safeties, like you know, the safety punt for 426 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: forty It looks awesome, and that's not usually how it 427 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: looks when you play other good teams. And there was 428 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: so much hype coming into that forty nine er game 429 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: where it's like, listen, Dallas might not win the game, 430 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: but if you just lose twenty eight to twenty four 431 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: and you just go twelve rounds, you'd be like, listen, 432 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: a lot of respect for you. But they got destroyed. 433 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: So now same type deal playing the Eagles, and you 434 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: can be like, well, Dak's played the Eagles really well. Yeah, 435 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: there is a tangible pressure right now on this team. 436 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: I think all like, if the Eagles lose this game, 437 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: whatever they've proven last year blew out the Giants, knocked 438 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: out Party could have easily won the Super Bowl. They 439 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: clearly look like the most talented team in the NFC. Now, 440 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: the question with Jalen and the knee injury is definitely 441 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: a valid concern, but it hasn't really hurt him this 442 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: year so far. When's the last time Mike McCarthy had 443 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: a win where you're like hell yeah, like hell yeah, 444 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: that's our coach, that's our guy. He kind of needs 445 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: one of those, and this would be huge. I think 446 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: there is. And Dax played a lot better these last 447 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I thought that Charger game for the 448 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: first time this season, you know, in a game that 449 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: was tight, showed some life. I'll never forget the drive 450 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: where he scrambled, threw it to Pollard later the touchdown 451 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: to Cooks, like when he's a playmaker. I think the 452 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: Cowboys are pretty dangerous now. The Eagles, I think, top 453 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: to bottom are more talented. But we say this all 454 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: the time. It's hell we were talking about with the 455 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: Patriots divisional games. I don't care if you're an undefeated 456 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: team or a team that hasn't won. You are not 457 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: intimidated by the other team's players. You are used to 458 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: playing all those guys, right, like Micah Parsons knows Malatu 459 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: the Australian left tackle, and Lane Johnson the strengths and 460 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: the weaknesses right, no different than Ceedee Lamb knows their 461 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: corners vice versa two. So you are very comfortable playing 462 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: the team. I think just a ton of pressures on 463 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: the Cowboys and this would be like I don't know 464 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: if they get that much credit for a tight game, right, 465 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: because then the Eagles would have a multi game lead. 466 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, you win this game and 467 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: you know you have the same amount losses is Philly 468 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: you're gonna start? I picked the Cowboys. I tried to 469 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: be bold at the beginning of the season just to 470 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: win this division. And then obviously after that Arizona game, 471 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: I was like, God, is this team gritty enough? Like 472 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: there's a grit sometimes when you watch them, and sometimes 473 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: it's as simple as like some of their bad losses, 474 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: Dak just throws awful turnovers, right, throws awful interceptions. To me, 475 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: if Dak doesn't turn over the ball, My question for 476 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: this team like are they gritty enough? Can they get 477 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: into a game that's seventeen seventeen going into the fourth 478 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: quarter and win against a team that could easily win 479 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, because if they can't, then I do 480 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: think you got to like, Okay, I take this team 481 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: seriously because if you just take some of their blowout wins, 482 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: their ceiling and I understand these teams are shitty, but 483 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: the way in which they can just overwhelm you, they 484 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: definitely have the talent, right they have the explosion on offense. Defensively, 485 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: if they can get a little lead, their pass rush 486 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: is just so daunting. Their coordinator on defense is elite 487 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: in Dan Quinn. So I think all the pressures on 488 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, and I think McCarthy even more than Dak. 489 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it, Dak has had some big 490 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: wins over the course of his career, Like when's McCarthy 491 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: truly won a big game as the Cowboys That coach 492 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: definitely not in the playoffs. I'm sorry, I'm not counting 493 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: a god awful Tampa Bay team in the wild card round. 494 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 2: And last, but not least, bold take of the Week 495 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: brought to you by Guinness. A couple weeks ago after 496 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: the Trojans, the usc Trojans got blown out by Notre 497 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 2: Dame Ocho Emmanuelacho throughout a take that Caleb Williams should quit, 498 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 2: should stop playing, like what's he playing for, even though 499 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: at the time they hadn't lost a back twelve game, 500 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: and then the following week they lose a Utah to 501 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: a third string pig farming quarterback that, if you watch 502 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: the Oregon game, is not a very good player. He 503 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: had been benched multiple times this year season. They are 504 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: still alive to represent the conference as one of the 505 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: two teams in the Pac twelve, and it started last 506 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: year and it is happening again. It's not represented by 507 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: forever a lot like the Big Ten was represented by divisions. 508 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: The South play the North. Now they just take the 509 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: two best teams. USC is playing Washington at home, and 510 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: then following week they have Oregon, and then they finish 511 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: with their rival at UCLA. They're gonna be underdogs obviously 512 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: in all three games. If they win this game next 513 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: week against Oregon is a massive game because Oregon, like 514 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: USC both have one conference loss, and the winner of 515 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: that game would be in great position obviously to represent 516 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: the conference in the Pac twelve championship game against another 517 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: one or two loss team, and to me, if USC 518 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: loses this game, and I don't know. I didn't watch 519 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: any of it. I just was falling on my phone 520 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 2: because I don't have the Pac twelve network anymore because 521 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: of YouTube TV. The Trojans easily could have lost. I 522 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: mean easily could have lost us to a below average 523 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: Cow football team. The final score is fifty to forty nine. 524 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: Cow went for two to win the game. Terrible play call, 525 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: but if they would have got too, they would have lost. 526 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: And I do think there was a chance that Caleb 527 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: Williams would not have played anymore. I do believe. My 528 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: ball take of the week is if they lose to Washington, 529 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: which they easily could, I got news for you. I'm 530 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: gonna take the Huskies that Caleb Williams will not play 531 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: anymore for USC now. When Emmanuelaco threw the takeout, I 532 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: thought it was crazy because they still had a lot 533 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: on the line. I will defend him if he stops now. 534 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: The next game would be at Oregon. It would suck. 535 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: As a fan, I wouldn't want him to, but I 536 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: do understand from a business perspective, the team's imploding. The 537 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: season is over. He's not gonna play in the bowl game. 538 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: What's the point of playing Oregon and UCLA, two really 539 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 2: good defenses where he could get injured. He has a 540 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: lot of money on the line some of these takes. 541 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: The more and more I've thought about it is like 542 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: he could have returned to school. Is the dumbest fucking 543 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: take in the history of takes, even if usc could 544 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: round up ten million dollars to pay the guy. When 545 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: you are drafted number one overall, you sign a thirty 546 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: seven to thirty eight million dollar contract and get a 547 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 2: twenty seven million dollar signing bonus, so the money is 548 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: not comparable. Your clock also starts to get your second contract. 549 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: But I do think my ball take of the week 550 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: is if the Trojans lose this week to Washington, who 551 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: obviously have you know, the road to the playoff is 552 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: well in front of them. This will be Caleb Williams's 553 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: last game as a collegiate quarterback. I will defend him 554 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: if that is the case. So that's my ball take 555 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: of the week. Brought to you by Guinness. Gather your friends, 556 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: raise your glasses toast to win Guinness Draft Stout imported 557 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: by Diagio Beer Company USA, New York, New York. 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My main man Stucky from the Action Network, 587 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: one of the original creators. I'm one of the greatest 588 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: apps you'll ever see when it comes to gambling, and 589 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: you can hear them on Big Bets on campus. You 590 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: can find him on Twitter, tweeting away. We got Maction midweek. Now, 591 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: we got normal NFL coming up. We're recording this before 592 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: the Thursday night game and obviously big college weekend then 593 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: Sunday NFL stuck you what's cracking, bro? 594 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: What's going on? It is? You said eight or nine? 595 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: It's week nine or ten somehow or ten college football, 596 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: which is crazy. I don't know how we've already got here, 597 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's an amazing week weekend of football, just college. 598 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: There's a ton of marquee games from start to finish. 599 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: Just look at that the night you got LSU, Alabama 600 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: and Washington USC going head to head, and that's just 601 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: one of the many great games. Better on all day 602 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: and then Sunday we have a treat. It's like, look, 603 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: there's a ton of games with horrible I think it 604 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: could be up to ten backup quarterbacks playing between tonight 605 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: or between Thursday and Sunday. But there's four really good 606 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: games starting at nine thirty in the morning on the 607 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: East Coast all the way through Sunday night football. You 608 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: get you back to back to back Chiefs, Dolphins, raven Seahawks, Cowboys, Eagles, 609 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: Bill's Bengals all you know, fifteen hours with your backups 610 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: and bad quarterback play mixed in. I'm sure some of 611 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: those games will be intriguing, but just an awesome weekend 612 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: of water Wall football. I can't wait. 613 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: Okay, before we dive into the National Football League. College 614 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: is kind of taking shape. You know, the final four. 615 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: The original one came out yesterday with obviously Oregon and 616 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: Washington tailing and clearly because they're going to play each other. 617 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: Ohio State and Michigan have to play each other. Jim mceawayane, 618 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: former Frosno State offensive coordinator. I wouldn't say cot red 619 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: handed he's denying, but it's it's pretty clear when you 620 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: look at his connection with Harbaugh with our marine, thank 621 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: you for your service. Who's pretty dominant at sealing sides. Ultimately, 622 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: I wish this story didn't exist because this is just 623 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: an incredible college football season at the top. I think 624 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 2: all these teams can win it. The problem is, I'm 625 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: sure you saw the story the Big Ten coaches call, 626 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: and I don't blame the other coaches for being pissed off. 627 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: You just have to wonder. A lot of these scandals 628 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: right always are delayed. So we'll find out in the 629 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 2: year what's gonna happen to Michigan. They'll get a bull 630 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: ban or whatever. It does feel like there's gonna be 631 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: a lot of urgency to do something quick from the 632 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: conference and it's gonna be fascinating. How that because I 633 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 2: would say from a title contention perspective, most people would 634 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: say Michigan's the best team right now. I don't think 635 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: this shakes out. 636 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the conference angle is the most interesting 637 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: to me. The NCAA works so slow. 638 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: They're not like a local bureaucracy. They're fucking idiots. 639 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's not gonna be any impact from that perspective. 640 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, Michigan's a favorite in the Big 641 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: Ten for a reason. Like next week there's a line 642 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: already up for the petic it's five and f six 643 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: point favorites at Penn State and they host Ohio State. 644 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, it'll be really fascinating to see. Ultimately, I 645 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: don't think anything's gonna come of it, and until it's 646 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: too late and Harball's gone, and then you know, it'll 647 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: Michigan program will then take a hit. We saw this 648 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: with the USC for you know, other reasons, Penn State 649 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: for other reasons, Arizona State, we've seen this before. And 650 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: then your program takes it. But everyone that was actually 651 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: involved in it is gone. They get other jobs. Harball's 652 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: probably you know, coaching the Raiders or the Bears and 653 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: he's out. So I don't think it'll end up having 654 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: any impact on this year. But the conference angle, if 655 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: like the other teams raise enough stink. I don't know. 656 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm not too in tune with the process season timing there, 657 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: but that's the only thing that's gonnappen because the NCA 658 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: is not gonna do anything in time before everyone's gone 659 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: and then it's hit bowlban and then. 660 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: You have a Yeah, I think the I think the 661 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 2: only question I think, the only question mark right now 662 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: is because clearly, if you're Michigan, whether they end up 663 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: taking this away from you or not, you want to 664 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: play this thing out and win the thing this year? 665 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: Uh now there could you know, depending on the you know, 666 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 2: the fervor from everyone else around the conference, do they 667 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: force something to happen? 668 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: You know? 669 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: Fire him? 670 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: Uh? 671 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: I do, And I've always supported I thought the Belichick 672 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: thing was a little overrated spygate even this at first, 673 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 2: but the more you see how intense and the levels 674 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: in which they were going. I saw some unnamed coaches 675 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 2: and they're right, like, it's one thing to steal signs, 676 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 2: it's another thing to literally know all of our plays 677 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 2: are either run or pass, like that's this isn't even 678 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 2: real football. And it's like, yeah, which sucks because like 679 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: Harbaugh for all these years finally built up these last 680 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 2: couple of years what we hope Michigan would become. And 681 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: now it feels like it's all gonna stop. And like 682 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: you said, maybe he was inevitably going to go to 683 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: the NFL anyway. 684 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: But if he was just. 685 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: Rattling, if he won this national Championship Georgia style, he'd 686 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: be like, well, they could pay him twelve thirteen, fourteen 687 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: million dollars a year. Maybe he just stays there and 688 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 2: tries to win a couple And now that feels this 689 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 2: feels like the last couple of months of his Michigan 690 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 2: tenure for sure. 691 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. My two main questions this will all eventually come out, 692 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: I imagine is from a betting perspective. I now I 693 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: have note like it's very hard for me to rate Michigan, 694 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: Like how much of their success? 695 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: Have you gambled on Michigan a lot over the last 696 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: couple of years. 697 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I bet against him twice this year 698 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: and lost. I was joking with a friend of mine 699 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: who is an odds maker out in Las Vegas, and 700 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: I was like, can I can I get a refund 701 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: here for some of these bets when I fade in Michigan. 702 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: But so yeah, like how much of that influenced their 703 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: results and so that that's very tough for me to gauge, 704 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: so Flick for now, I think I'm mainly just like 705 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: staying away from Michigan games. The other thing is like 706 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: where did this idea come from? So like was how 707 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,959 Speaker 1: a widespread is this? So we know that every team 708 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: does this in some form or fashion, but are other 709 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: teams sending guys and like does the disc come from 710 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: another team? And like is this actually more prevalent than 711 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: we think? Right as far as like going to the 712 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: lengths that Michigan did, how much how many of the 713 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: other top programs are going to those lengths? I don't 714 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: think anyone is being that extreme, but maybe they are. 715 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't know about Michigan until just now, 716 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: so that's something I'm curious about, Like what are some 717 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: of the other teams doing and to what extent? And 718 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: then from a betting perspective, like just for now, it's 719 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: very difficult for me to gauge Michigan games because it's 720 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: just it's impossible to quantify what the actual impact is. 721 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of big games. Obviously Clemson, who sucks 722 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 2: relative to what they've been Dabble's been pissed off playing 723 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 2: Notre Dame SC who could have lost to the California 724 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: Golden Bears last week. I mean that running back had 725 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns fifteen 726 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: minutes into the game. I mean, their defense is even 727 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: worse than I think the way we were hyping it up. 728 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: And now they play Washington. Probably you could argue the 729 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: most explosive offense in all of college football. So it's 730 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 2: just I'll start with their I mean, the line is 731 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: not that big. I got Washington minus three. I feel 732 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 2: like I don't know. I mean, obviously, Caleb, they can score, 733 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 2: but it feels like there's a chance. Is this a 734 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: sixty to forty type game? 735 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: The total is seventy eight, So that'll tell you all 736 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: you need to know about this game. I got bad 737 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: news for or if anyone cares what I think. I 738 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: played both Clemson and USC after I've done nothing but 739 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: fade Clemson and USA except for that Utah game when 740 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: you were right score them off. I faded them last 741 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 1: week against Cal again, been fading Clemson for all year. 742 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: But I took them both plus three and a half. 743 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: I had to. I mean, my numbers just called for it. 744 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: It's a number one with Clemson plus three and a 745 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: half at home against Notre Dame. I mean they were 746 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: plus one and a half at home against Florida State 747 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: three weeks ago and should have won. 748 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 2: And Dabbo is right where they're not getting killed. I mean, 749 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 2: they could have won a lot of these swing games 750 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 2: and they could be six and two. Pretty they could 751 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: be eight. 752 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: No, if you like, really like, they could have be. 753 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: Florida State lost overtime. They lost to Miami in overtime. 754 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: You know, they outgained NC State by about three hundred yards. 755 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: They held them to one hundred and eighty yards and 756 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: lost that game by seven. So yeah, I mean they've 757 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: lost Duke game. 758 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: They got out played, but they did turn the ball over. 759 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: They also were in the red zone, you know, fifty 760 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: times and kept fumbling it. They lead the nation in fumbles. 761 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: Their defense is still really good. They have a running 762 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: back that got hurt and Will Shipley. I think that's 763 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: a good thing. You get more MafA, who's the better back. 764 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: He is also the better pass blocker. The defense is 765 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: still elite. Notre Dame. I mean, look, this is Notre 766 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: tem team. That went on the road, got crushed by Louisville, 767 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: should have lost at Duke and now I mean, this 768 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 1: line is I just can't get here with this Clemson team. 769 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: You also to remember Notre Dame. They just lost their 770 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: star tight end who was playing out of his mind. 771 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: Their leading receiver, Mitchell Evans, he's out for the season. 772 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: He got hurt last week. That's a big loss for them. 773 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: He was a security blanket for Sam Hartman. But this 774 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: is just a classic Bilo cell high spot. I had 775 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: to take the three and a half at three, it's 776 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: Clemson or nothing. So it's certainly been unlucky. They're on 777 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: the downtrend because they're just not as talented anymore because 778 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: they don't hit the transfer portal like other teams, and 779 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: Dabbo refuses to adjust. Maybe a season like this gets 780 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: them to do it. It will, It will, Yeah, it 781 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: has to otherwise they're just gonna fall away behind. You 782 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: can just look at the receivers. That's the biggest thing 783 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: they're receiving. Talent is just I mean, and this is 784 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: a program that had as dudes that are killing it 785 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now there's nothing there. And he just 786 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: compared to their top teams. Florida State has went out 787 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: and got a guy from Michigan State who's going to 788 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: get drafted first or second round. He's killing it for them. 789 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: A receiver like that. They're it's so it's it's crazy 790 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: that they're not using it and that's why they're taking 791 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: a step back. But plus they're afganst their name. Have 792 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: to take it usc I had to take again. I mean, 793 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: I hated myself when I hit when I bet it. 794 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: But this Washington team is is kind of broken. If 795 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: you look over the past month, they should have lost 796 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: to Arizona State if Arizona State had a kicker. They 797 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: have basically a Matt kicker. They missed a couple of 798 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: field goals. Then instead of going up six with you know, 799 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: eight minutes to go, they don't. They don't even trust 800 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: a kicker to make a thirty yarder. They throw a 801 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: ninety yard pick six in that game. Washington didn't even 802 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: score an offensive touchdown. Then Washington almost like last week 803 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: again Stanford that here, there's a couple of problems going 804 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: oh with Washington. They can't run the ball. I mean 805 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: last week they were Arizona say they ran it thirteen 806 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: times for thirteen yards. Last week in Stanford, one of 807 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: the worst rush defenses in the country, they ran it 808 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven times for ninety yards. Their INTI your offensive 809 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: line is struggle. They've been reach shuffling guys, even their 810 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: receivers like that. The offense isn't clicking the same way 811 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: it was during the season. You have two really good receivers, 812 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: but McMillan, you know, one of your other depth guys, 813 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: they're hurt, and the defense has fallen off a cliff 814 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: because you have injuries and they just don't have a 815 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: lot of depth. They don't have the depth of Georgia. 816 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 1: They don't have the depth of you know, Alabama, and 817 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: they've lost They have their best defensive lineman Tooley, he's 818 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: been out for a month. He's huge. They have three 819 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: three or four Turner cam fab a couple of the 820 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: guys that are hurt at safety, so they're down to 821 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 1: like third string safeties that are playing. So the depth 822 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: of that defense has taken a huge hit and they 823 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: can't really stop any when you go back to that 824 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: organ and they should have lost the organ at home. 825 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: They Oregon just went over three and fourth downs and 826 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: then Washington had that last minute touchdown. But this is 827 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: the team that's treading in the wrong direction. Are they 828 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: going to score against you know, on this USC defense 829 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: at will? Yes, of course, everyone defends. Just will take 830 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: you me. Producers will find you know, we'll just walk 831 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: on the street and find the next seven, you know, men, 832 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: women or children, and it doesn't matter. We'll put eleven together 833 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: and we'll score one good one. Saving grace for USC 834 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: is that Washington does not run the ball at all, like, 835 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: and they can't run it. So the USC past dy 836 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: is like semi respectable. They have some you know, decent 837 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: pass rushers and then they have some talented guys in 838 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: the secondary. They can't tackle and they cannot play the 839 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: run like it doesn't matter who's running against them. And 840 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: Jaye Nott's are really good back for caw but you 841 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: saw him running wild, you saw Utah running wild. But 842 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: Washington doesn't really run it. So like from a matchup standpoint, 843 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: you might be able to get a couple stops just 844 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: from your d backs making plays for getting a sack 845 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: because Washington's not just doesn't run it and they can't 846 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: when they do. But ultimately, you know, I make this 847 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: number just like I make this closer to a coin 848 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: flip because Washington's trending in the wrong direction. I think 849 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: they're a bit overrated. What would the narrative be if 850 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: they actually lost to Oregon, if they actually lost hours 851 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: in the state as they should have, like, they'd be 852 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: right in the converse station with usc is Doug thor 853 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: their defense is overrated and they could score. So I 854 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: took the three and a half. Ultimately, what I think happens. 855 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a musty TV game. It's just 856 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: a bat whoever as the ball lasts. So I'll take 857 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: the three and a half with the home team. 858 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: It's pretty clear once Washington pulled off, I don't want 859 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 2: to call it an upset, but once they beat Oregon, 860 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 2: the two teams since, I mean, Oregon looks dramatically better, right, yeah, 861 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean Oregon. I mean they killed Utah Beside, like 862 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 2: the first couple of drives, they handled Washington State, who 863 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 2: was playing pretty well at the time. I mean, Oregon 864 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 2: looks fantastic. And why I was watching a lot of 865 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 2: that Stanford game. Stanford was like a drop pass away 866 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: from potentially upsetting them kind of late in that game. 867 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 2: So I'm with you. 868 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: There. Oregon twelve, they're just the They're the most complete team. 869 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 2: And they I mean they could win the national championship. 870 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 2: Like to me, they mean they could play with some 871 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 2: people for sure. I mean they're physical, they got skill guys, 872 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 2: team speed. Their quarterback more starts than any other. He's 873 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: played more college games than any of the player in 874 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 2: college football history. Now scut because you get the free year. 875 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, they have enough balance Washington. I don't think 876 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: that's the balance or depth. Oregon has the defense. They 877 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: also have the running game with Bucky Irving's might be 878 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: the number one running back taking the next year's draft. 879 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: So Oregon, I think is the most complete team the 880 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: back twelve. They're the team that has the best shot 881 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: of winning the national title from that conference. 882 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 2: My pig former quarterback came back to Earth against Utah. 883 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,720 Speaker 2: But he but he played well when he needed to. Okay, 884 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 2: before we get into your picks. The game that jumped 885 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 2: out to me, and I know everyone, I'm sure you 886 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 2: have stats of the interim coach the first game wins. 887 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 2: You know, I think last year was it Saturday against 888 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 2: the Raiders. H You just you know it happens. It's 889 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 2: a tried and true formula. But I think this Raider team, 890 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 2: it's pretty clear that when Mark Davis fired everybody on Tuesday, 891 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 2: it'll come out over time. But I wonder if a 892 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 2: big sticking point is Josh McDaniels was anti like Aidan 893 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: O'Connell played in the one game he got sacked like 894 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 2: seventy five times. Even Khalil Max said, who had six 895 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 2: sacks in the game, It wasn't all me. The guy 896 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 2: was holding onto the balls kind of easy. So I 897 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 2: think Josh thinks this guy, listen, this is not He 898 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: even said this is not the preseason. I'm not defending Josh. 899 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 2: I think he's terrible, but I do think that they 900 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: thought this quarterback had no chance out there despite Jimmy 901 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: playing poorly. I just don't I think it could be very, 902 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 2: very tough, and say what you want about the Giant. 903 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 2: Their defense has played very well. Daniel Jones is back, 904 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 2: but at any moment that Net gets reinjured, we got 905 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 2: to reinsert to Veto, which would immediately be a problem 906 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,720 Speaker 2: even against the Raiders, who have like one good player 907 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 2: on defense. Antonio Pierce was, you know, pretty fired up 908 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: at the press conference, saying, now he's from Compton and 909 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 2: all this stuff. But they fired their offensive coordinator. They 910 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 2: also fired their head coach who called the plays, so 911 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 2: they got a lot of moving parts here. I don't know. 912 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,959 Speaker 2: I just think the Raiders maybe you get a little 913 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 2: extra effort, But the Giants have been playing really hard 914 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 2: too and just tapping out yet on the season. I 915 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: just like the Giants plus one and a half in 916 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 2: this game. 917 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Giants and nothing. I mean, if you have 918 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: back what last twenty twenty seasons in the NFL interim coaches. Okay, 919 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: after firing coach in season, they are their very next 920 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: game that week, they are sixteen and thirteen against the spread. 921 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: But they're thirteen and sixteen straight up. A lot of times, 922 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: you're you're getting these teams that are big underdogs, right, 923 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 1: why do they fire their coach because they're horrendous. 924 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 2: Right ten underdog or whatever? 925 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is way different story because you know they're 926 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: they're favored, and they also have a backup quarterback. They 927 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: also fired their offensive coordinator. This is it? So yeah, 928 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: I think it's it can only work against them a 929 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 1: lot of times. It's like there's the element of surprise, 930 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: let's switch some things up. But I also think Devanta 931 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: Adams might have had some influence in this and talking 932 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: with Mark. 933 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 2: Davis after last one hundred, yeah. 934 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: He definitely got in there and said stuff. But yeah, 935 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: it's it's Giants or nothing here. Yeah. The fear is 936 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: like if Jones is out and you got Da Vito, 937 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: you're you're cooked. But even if like you know, like 938 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: the Raiders offenses isn't great, they can't I mean, they 939 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: can't score more. They only scored more than twenty once 940 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: and that's because they got a safety on like the 941 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: final play against Mac Jones, and so they can't score. 942 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: What the Raiders defense is doing and you're you said 943 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: it the Giants d's playing. Well, what the Raiders defense 944 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: is doing this year is Max Crosby's a stud and 945 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: that's it. That's all they have. So the defensive coordinators, 946 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: who's very good, they're basically just dropping everybody and they're saying, 947 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get any explosive plays on us. That's 948 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: why the I mean, they're I think every one of 949 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: their games is going under. You're not gonna get any 950 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: explosive plays on us. We're just gonna come up, make tackles, 951 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 1: make you go you know, twelve fifteen plays and then 952 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get a stop in the red 953 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: zone or we're gonna force you in a mistake. So, 954 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: but that doesn't that who cares against the Giants. The 955 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: Giants don't have any explosiveness, So like the Giants are 956 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: happy to dank dunk, give it to Barkley. You can 957 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: run all day on this Raiders D. So I think 958 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: it's a good matchup for the Giants because the Raiders 959 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: want to take away your explosive plays. The Giants won't 960 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: have any explosive place and their D is playing well. 961 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: So I agree with you. It's it's Giants or nothing. 962 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go far far across the pond. This game 963 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 2: on paper is pretty sweet. Obviously, the Chiefs coming off 964 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 2: probably the ugliest, one of the ugliest games in the 965 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,399 Speaker 2: Mahomes era. Definitely winn you factor, and he'd never lost 966 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 2: a road divisional game five turnovers. I would imagine the 967 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 2: history of the league. When you lose the turnover battle 968 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: by four, you're gonna lose ninety nine point nine percent 969 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 2: of those games. Now you're playing the Dolphins, who you 970 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: know that game was close against the Patriots. I liked 971 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 2: where you were at and then just Mac Jones turned 972 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 2: into Mac Jones again. But I don't know. To me, 973 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 2: these international morning games, when they're two even teams, it's 974 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 2: pretty easy to me when you get the better team. 975 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 2: But like we saw Jags Bills, two teams are gonna 976 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 2: be in the playoffs. To me, they can be hard 977 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 2: to figure out. Sometimes the Dolphins went, they're already there. 978 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 2: The Chiefs aren't going where they flying out today. I 979 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't feel great handicapping these went when 980 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 2: I got two teams that are gonna win eleven to 981 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 2: thirteen games that fly at different times. Harball went for 982 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 2: the whole week, and he was outspoken that that was 983 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 2: a huge benefit. Now he was granted he was playing 984 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 2: the Titans at the time, he weren't playing as well 985 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 2: as they did with Will Levis. But I don't know, 986 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 2: I don't have a great feel for these morning international games. Yeah, 987 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 2: this look the factor that in at all, like the travel. 988 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: Of course I look at the travel. There's still it's 989 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: still we still don't have a huge data set and 990 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: different teams still are doing different things. So like you know, 991 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 1: these are NFL teams, they are all looking into this. 992 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's definitely one answer, but 993 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: to me, like the later you go, the worst it 994 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: is and from like just some of the stuff that 995 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: I've read, but it's still it's still up in there. 996 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a huge impact. But look, 997 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,320 Speaker 1: this is this is very silly. I mean on the surface, 998 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: look the Dolphins, they're often they're like always the shiny 999 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: new toy they beat. I mean, look, they beat six 1000 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: clowns on the year. There's six wins. I mean, they 1001 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: beat the Pats twice and they were close games until 1002 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: the end. They beat the Giants with the you know, 1003 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 1: their entire backups, Panthers entire secondary didn't play the Broncos 1004 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: before they fix their defense. And then the Chargers in 1005 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: the opener they went by two like that's who they did. No. 1006 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: One with a winning record and then they stepped up 1007 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 1: in class twice they got blown out by the Eagles, 1008 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: blown out by the Bills. And then for these are 1009 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: two top five offenses. The difference is if you look 1010 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: by metrically, the Chiefs have the top five defense as 1011 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 1: a whole. I mean they held the Broncos lest with 1012 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 1: the three and a half yards per play. The Dolphins 1013 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: are outside the top twenty. They're getting better. Fanji will 1014 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: get it figured out. They're just the Chiefs. Some is 1015 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: better than their parts, and they're well coach and they 1016 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: know the scheme. The Dolphins. Some is not as good 1017 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 1: as their parts. Yet you know, like you're getting Ramsey back, 1018 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: it will be Fanjit. It's a very complex day. So 1019 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,399 Speaker 1: they're still not there yet. Their defense still isn't great, 1020 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: and they played a laughable schedule and you you could 1021 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: see the issues on their defense whenever they've stepped up. 1022 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: And special teams, Chiefs top five special teams unit, it's 1023 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: off its bottom five. Their special teams are horrible. So 1024 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,240 Speaker 1: special teams of defense you get the edges of the Chiefs. 1025 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: But I could throw all that out. I mean, basically, 1026 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: I told you this to the Super Bowl last year 1027 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: against the Eagles. You have the best quarterback on the 1028 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: planet and you can bet him to basically just win 1029 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: the game. I mean, I don't care if if he 1030 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: loses and loses, I'm going to take that opportunity every 1031 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: single time. If you go back and look Patrick Homes 1032 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: in his career, he's nineteen including the postseason, nineteen six 1033 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: and one against the spread as an underdog or favorite 1034 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: of a field goal or less whenever, you just need 1035 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: him to win the game. So like, I don't care 1036 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: what happens this entire game. I mean, I think that's 1037 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: going to play out. Chiefs will probably step up in 1038 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: the red zone. They might force two is more likely 1039 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: to make him a sekey mistake, but no. 1040 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 2: Matter, that's the best way, that's the best way to 1041 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 2: look at it. Just basically, I'm betting on this guy 1042 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 2: to win the game, like. 1043 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,240 Speaker 1: For twenty years, Yeah, to win this game and anytime. 1044 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: The same thing was with Brady and Manning whenever you 1045 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 1: had him underfield ers, underdog, free money. So you're gonna 1046 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: lose a couple of these every once in a while. 1047 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm taking in. Look, the Dolphins is scoring 1048 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: like eighty percent to eighty percent of their red zone 1049 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: drives are ending in touchdowns. That's an insane pace. And 1050 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: they've played horrible defenses with injuries for the most part, 1051 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: that there'll be some regression there. Chiefs wretched fifty, So 1052 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: this is a team that's usually leading the league around seventy, 1053 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 1: so there could be some you know, red zone variant 1054 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: that works in the Chiefs favor here, but it should 1055 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: be a good game. These are two of the best 1056 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: teams in the NFC. Chiefs a little better defense right now, 1057 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 1: a little better special teams, and you have the best 1058 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: quarterback on the planet. You're delay one, So yeah, I'm 1059 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 1: not overthinking it. 1060 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 2: Okay. It was a cute little early story. They started 1061 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 2: I think three and zero. Maybe it was two and one, 1062 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 2: but they were definitely were three and one. Is Baker 1063 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 2: Mayfield like resurrect in his career. He had called Tampa 1064 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 2: like I want to come there, and he's really come 1065 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 2: back to earth. I think he looks fucking god awful 1066 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 2: these last several games. He looks just like a backup, 1067 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 2: like a guy that if you had to play a game. 1068 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 2: But the more and more he plays, he gets worse 1069 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 2: and worse. Playing the Texans, who I'd say had a 1070 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 2: pretty bad loss against the Carolina Panthers, but they're getting 1071 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 2: Tampa at home now. Tampa's coming off a long week 1072 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 2: because they played last Thursday night. I just think this 1073 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 2: Tampa team is kind of like the Rams now with 1074 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,959 Speaker 2: Stafford Hurt. I'm just picking them to lose basically every week. 1075 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, they I like the Texans here at under afield goal. 1076 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: The Bucks are you know who we thought they were dead? 1077 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: Dennis Green Voys, Denny Green Boys, Yeah, legend and looks 1078 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: the Bucks. What they do well is their Rundy's pretty good. 1079 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: Houston can't really run it this year at all, and 1080 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: the Texans have been I think better than expected. Stroud, 1081 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 1: still a rookie, is going to have some ups and downs. 1082 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: I think we'll play better at home. But they're three 1083 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: and two over their past five. Their two losses came 1084 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: by two points. And the Bucks what they're doing this year, 1085 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: they're blitzing as always under toables. They're getting no pressure 1086 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: and that's bad news against Stroud. Stroud under pressure this year. 1087 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: Eighty seven dropbacks, no touchdowns, no interceptions, no big time throws, 1088 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: four turnover worthy plays, a sixty quarterback grating when he 1089 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: has a clean pocket, one hundred and seventy seven dropbacks, 1090 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 1: nine touchdowns, one interception, seven big time throws, one turnover 1091 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: worthy play, one hundred and ten quarterback grading. And this 1092 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: is what everyone knew in college is that if he 1093 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 1: has a clean pocket, I mean, this guy's money and 1094 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: he can make all the throws a little shaky when 1095 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: you could rattle him with pressure. He's also been good 1096 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,919 Speaker 1: against the blitz when he knows the blitz is company 1097 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 1: and can just get rid of the ball quick. So 1098 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: this is a good matchup at home for Stroud because 1099 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: the Bucks just aren't generating any pressure even though they're 1100 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: trying to blitz a lot. Mayfield, who's always been bad 1101 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: against pressure, actually has some decent pressure numbers. He has 1102 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 1: some regression coming that way. He's also not healthy. He's 1103 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: dealing with a knee injury. And yeah, I think that 1104 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: these two defenses and look and the Texans have dealt 1105 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: with a ton of injuries all year, so I think 1106 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: they're a little better than the You know, some people 1107 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 1: might realize because Stroud's really good their offensive line. I mean, 1108 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: this is a team that was playing with four backup 1109 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: offensive linemen, a third with a third stringer in there. 1110 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: Two they had they were decimated. Now their offensive line 1111 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: is finally healthy, you know, and you're talking new staff, 1112 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: new scheme, so there's there's going to be some ups 1113 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: and downs. But they also had both their safeties out 1114 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: at Petrie, who I love, Jimmy Ward. They were both 1115 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: out for multiple weeks. You're playing with backup safeties, backup corners. 1116 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: This team's do a lot of injuries. Basically as healthy 1117 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: as they've been in a while now these so these 1118 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: defenses are close to on part the Bucks defense, it's solid, 1119 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: but it's getting older. They can't really generate pressure, so 1120 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: these defenses are kind of close. So I'll happily take 1121 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: Stroud and what I think is a favorable matchup, who 1122 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 1: basically just needs to win this game against Baker Mayfield, 1123 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: who's probably gonna make a couple key mistakes. Heeries not 1124 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: fully healthy, and I think the Texans get a nice 1125 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: home win. 1126 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 2: I'm a little shocked they didn't do a little fire 1127 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 2: sale of just trying to trade, you know, the receivers, 1128 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: maybe even I know Vidave, yeah, but but even Devin White. 1129 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 2: Just throw some player, just put them on the market 1130 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 2: and just see what you could get. Who knows, I mean, 1131 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,479 Speaker 2: what if you get a bunch of second round picks, 1132 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna blow this thing up. I bet half those 1133 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 2: guys won't be on the team within the next eighteen 1134 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 2: months anyway, So you might as well. And you know, 1135 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 2: some of the times these gms are going well, they're 1136 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 2: still looking at it. The division like your team stinks here, 1137 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 2: You're you're not going to the playoffs. The other thing 1138 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 2: that really crystallized to me last week is the Saints 1139 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 2: have and I've been thinking this all have zero business 1140 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,040 Speaker 2: to not win this division. If they don't win the division, 1141 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 2: you immediately fire the coach. And I'm sorry all the 1142 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 2: Derek Carr haters were right, because they they should cruise 1143 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 2: to this division by several games, especially now with the 1144 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 2: Atlanta quarterback situation kind of getting weird. Okay, I mean 1145 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 2: this is probably one of we knew coming into the season. 1146 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 2: Whenever these two teams play is gonna be one of 1147 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 2: the games of the year. They're both playing well coming 1148 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,439 Speaker 2: into this game. Obviously, Jalen played well statistically last week, 1149 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 2: but it's pretty evident that he's kind of running with 1150 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 2: a little like limp, you know. I mean, it just 1151 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 2: doesn't quite look right physically. But he's not one to 1152 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 2: kind of he's not Lebron here bitching and moan about 1153 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 2: his injury, so he never quite know what's going on. 1154 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 2: But the Eagles talent wise with AJ Brown, they look 1155 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 2: fucking unreal. Defensively, Reddick is playing like he's Nick Bosa 1156 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: or TJ. Watt right now coming off the edge, and 1157 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,919 Speaker 2: the Cowboys just had one of their classic games where 1158 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 2: pick six, blocking field goals, returning safeties punts for fifty yards. 1159 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 2: When they do that, they just an nihilate you. I 1160 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 2: don't think this game's gonna look like that. So when 1161 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 2: they get into a real game, how can they play? 1162 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 2: They're a hard team to figure out because I would 1163 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 2: say they're highs now they've come against shittier opponents have 1164 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 2: been just I mean NFL style that it looks like college. 1165 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 2: It's like when Ohio State or Michigan plays a Rutgers 1166 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 2: or they destroy them. And then you get into these 1167 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 2: kind of like the last couple of years in these 1168 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 2: playoff games, they just don't look the same. Right. Look 1169 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: at last year the Tampa game. Now I understand Tampa 1170 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 2: was terrible, but you look at you watch the Cowboy game, 1171 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 2: You're like, goy, this team has a ceiling to like 1172 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. Then you watch them the next 1173 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 2: week it's like they can barely get first downs. So 1174 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 2: it just it's it's hard for me to trust the 1175 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Cowboys despite a team that, like, of all the teams 1176 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 2: that are in like the top seven or eight, that 1177 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 2: we consider they're high end. Sometimes can look like the Bills, 1178 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the forty nine ers, Yet when then they 1179 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 2: play one of those teams, they don't look like that again. 1180 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 2: So this one's hard for me. Though. Anytime you get 1181 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 2: these divisional games, the players are comfortable playing. I don't 1182 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 2: care how big of a tours you have. It's not 1183 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 2: like they're gonna be intimidated. And that blad guy for 1184 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, man, he's fucking he's a stud. 1185 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. The and just to close loop on that other point, 1186 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you the Saints and some of these 1187 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 1: NFC teams, like did Washington sold because they're like, oh 1188 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 1: we have the Cowboys and Eagles, we can't catch them. 1189 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 1: But some of these other NFC teams, like they got 1190 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 1: to just let the pipe dream go even though they're 1191 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: in a bad division. I mean, Mike Kevin's gonna be 1192 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: a free agent, get something for him. But anyway, Yeah, 1193 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,439 Speaker 1: I like the Cowboys. I like the Cowboys plus three, John, 1194 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I got sided it. This is a painful weekend for me. 1195 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 1: I just told you, I've got the Clemson USC teams 1196 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: have been clowning for years. The Cowboys, who I hate 1197 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: in these step up games, they just seem like soft 1198 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 1: in a way. But yeah, the divisional games, they're they're comfortable. 1199 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Deck has owned the Eagles historically and did the wrote 1200 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 1: the homefield advantage isn't as great, even though like it's 1201 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a raucous auto you're just you're familiar with 1202 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: going there, You're familiar with playing in these loud stadiums, 1203 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: the venues where you're sleeping, where you're staying. So the 1204 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 1: home field advantage isn't great. But there's a lot of 1205 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: things that I like about the Cowboys. I was off 1206 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: this team after the forty nine Ers game, and I 1207 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 1: told you this, Jack's not running, He's not moving, and 1208 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 1: I think that he was just a freight after's injury. Well, 1209 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: he is the past. 1210 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 2: The pass played a lot better. He's played a lot 1211 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 2: better since. 1212 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: He's also, I mean, he's number one in the NFL 1213 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: and EPA. Over the past three weeks among all quarterbacks. 1214 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: He's running like he had twelve I think over the 1215 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: first six weeks he had eleven rushing attempts. Total. Over 1216 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: the past two he's at thirteen and he didn't even 1217 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 1: need to run the second exit. They're blowing out the rams. 1218 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: He's also moving a little bit more. But the play calling. 1219 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what got int the McCarthy, but he 1220 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, and he talked about this. But over the 1221 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: past two weeks, they're using a lot more motion and 1222 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: they're throwing on first downs, and that's what they need 1223 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: to do. I mean, they were just running into walls 1224 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 1: on first down, so many first down run, second doun runs. 1225 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: But they finally are starting to throw on first downs, 1226 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: easy throws, getting the ball off quick. So and that's 1227 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: how you get to beat the Eagles. You neutralize their pressure, 1228 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 1: you get the ball of quick, quick passing because their 1229 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 1: past defense isn't any good. I mean, I've rated eighteen 1230 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They have no slot corner, so ceed 1231 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Lam's gonna line up in the slot all day long. 1232 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: They have no one who can cover him. I mean, 1233 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 1: maybe you got to bring one of your wide corners in, 1234 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: but he should have a favorable matchup inside. So I 1235 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: love how this this offense has evolved over the past 1236 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: few weeks. Something happened during the by someone got to them. 1237 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 1: Because they're throwing the first downs, they're using a lot 1238 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: more motion, ghost motion. Their offensive line is also getting 1239 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,439 Speaker 1: healthy you should get Tyrn Smith back. Tyler Smith's playing 1240 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 1: at all pro level. They were dealing with some injuries 1241 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 1: earlier in the season, and you still have a really 1242 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: good center and go like their their offensive line when 1243 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: healthy is right there with with the Eagles. But the 1244 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 1: defense also has been at so it was a question 1245 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: mark after you lose dates at one corner spot, and 1246 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: it took them some time to kind of figure it 1247 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: out and settle into their roles. And you mentioned Deron Bland. 1248 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 1: He's playing really well, you know, and this is a 1249 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 1: team that's going to play a lot of man coverage, 1250 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,959 Speaker 1: which is there's a couple things that are scary about 1251 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: this with the Cowboys, Like I think that Dalltas canna 1252 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: have success on offense against an overrated Philly defense right 1253 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: now that's dealing with some injuries. I mean, look, this 1254 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Eagles team, by the way, they have won loss, but 1255 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: they're four and one in one possession games, and they've 1256 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: had some turnover luck against the Vikings. You know, the 1257 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Pats they rock game by like two hundred yards. They 1258 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 1: barely beat the Commanders twice. It hasn't been that pretty. 1259 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: And Hurts can't run the ball, so like that takes 1260 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: a huge he has a hurt knee. They're not calling 1261 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 1: design runs. He can't take off as well. That I 1262 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 1: mean against the Dallas pressure, that's massive. It also just 1263 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 1: takes an element out of the Philly offense. That just 1264 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 1: makes them so much more dangerous. Now they're gonna play 1265 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 1: a lot of man. The Cowboys A J. Brown has 1266 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 1: been eating man up, so maybe he'll have, you know, 1267 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: three touchdowns again. But this Dallas defense is evolving. They've 1268 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: adjusted to life without Diggs. You even take a guy 1269 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: like Mark east Bell. This is a guy who's an 1270 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. If you go by PFF, he's the 1271 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: highest graded linebacker in the entire NFL small sabulis, but 1272 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,919 Speaker 1: he's playing extremely well in He's an upgrade over Layton 1273 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: vander ash who's hurt. So they've had some guys that 1274 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: have filled in. They figured out their roles, their defenses 1275 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: playing really well. Their offense is actually throwing the first down, 1276 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 1: dats moving. So if they look like a completely different team, 1277 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are a bit overrated. And they 1278 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: have the Hurts injury, you have the slot corner injury, 1279 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 1: you have a vulnerable pass y up the mid in 1280 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. So yeah, I think that 1281 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 1: this is I think that these two teams on the 1282 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 1: neutral field, if you gave them, the Eagles are probably tougher, 1283 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: but they're close, and home field advantage isn't three point, 1284 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: especially in the divisional game. I'm gonna take the field 1285 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 1: goal here. I have a sneaky suspicionly the Cowboys win 1286 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 1: this game and make the NFC East race a bit 1287 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: more interesting. 1288 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that would be, I mean, their biggest win 1289 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 2: in a long time. Especially it would feel like, I 1290 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 2: do they have a chance to especially now with home field. 1291 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 2: You know, the Lions aren't dead. A couple other games, obviously, 1292 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 2: the Bills at Cincinnati, I mean, Joe Burrow looked fantastic. 1293 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 2: The other night, I mean, the Bills trade for they 1294 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 2: needed a corner. And then the Monday night game, you know, 1295 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 2: the Chargers. Obviously the Bears a fucking blow. But the 1296 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 2: Jet it's just playing the ugliest games imaginable. It's like, 1297 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 2: can they function with Zach Wilson. I haven't checked on 1298 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 2: the weather Monday night. I mean that game was a monsoon, 1299 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 2: but somehow the Jets win that all of a sudden, 1300 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,919 Speaker 2: they're five and three. That'd be one of the most 1301 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 2: incredible accomplishments to be a five and three team with 1302 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 2: that level of offense over you know, basically the entire 1303 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 2: season I've ever seen. 1304 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, they won a ugly up games, which they've done, 1305 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Like they stole that Eagles game. They stole that Giants 1306 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 1: game somehow. 1307 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 2: To me, the Eagles game they got lucky brought. They 1308 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 2: should have just the Eagles should have called run after 1309 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 2: run after run after run, and because the corners were out, 1310 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 2: they just kept forcing the pass. It's like, guys, you're 1311 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 2: up fourteen to three, lean on these guys. These guys 1312 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 2: aren't built. They don't have Sam Adams and Tony Sarah 1313 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 2: Gusen there. They're built to stop the pass even with 1314 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 2: their corners out, and Eagles kind of played right in 1315 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 2: their hands, and then Jalen was off like that. That 1316 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 2: was a bad Eagles loss more than it wasn't impressive 1317 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 2: Jets win, agreed. 1318 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the shame of the Giants last week. I mean, 1319 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: you needed the Giants to you're you know, it's hurt, 1320 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: you're kicking field goals with them, you just go get 1321 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: one yard. And the Giants lost that game, even though 1322 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 1: they had negative stept five yards passing, whatever it was. 1323 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 1: The Jets have certainly been lucky. But like the Charters 1324 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 1: are again a team that will go out outdoors and 1325 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 1: like lose this game. So like these are two competing forces. 1326 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm probably staying away from that. Bill's Bengals, I think 1327 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,439 Speaker 1: is a sneaky over. I know these all these prime 1328 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 1: time games have been going under, but this total forty 1329 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 1: eight and a half. I'll tell you that last year 1330 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: these two teams were, you know, they're supposed to meet 1331 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 1: before the Hamling thing, and then they met in the playoffs. 1332 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: The totals in those games in the playoffs there was weather. 1333 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: We're forty eight and a half now because of like 1334 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: the suppressed suppressed scoring. It's forty eight and a half again. 1335 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you one thing. Darrow's back. He's fully healthy. 1336 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: He was you know, he had he wasn't practicing leading 1337 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 1: up to the season, so he always starts off rusty. 1338 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 1: He had that injury. Looks fully healthy. That offense is back. 1339 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Bill's offense is fine, one of the best in the NFL. 1340 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you both those defenses are way down. 1341 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: If you look at the Bengals, the past couple of 1342 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 1: weeks might not showed on the scoreboard, but I mean 1343 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Seattle out game in the by almost two hundreyards. They 1344 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 1: put four hundreds offense. They're just getting unlucky in the 1345 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 1: red zone and they had some turnovers last week. I 1346 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,440 Speaker 1: mean San Francisco four hundred and sixty yards. 1347 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty had nine. Pretty had nine explosive passes down 1348 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 2: of twenty plus yards down the field. 1349 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: You had a McCaffrey fumble inside the ten. You had 1350 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 1: you know, Purdy when the defensive lineman catches the ball. 1351 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: Fluky things. This Bengals defense is way down from last year. 1352 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 1: You lost both your starting safeties. Their run defense is 1353 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 1: taking step back. They don't have really any defensive line 1354 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,640 Speaker 1: dep so their defenses is significantly worse than it was 1355 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 1: last year. They've just been getting pretty lucky in the 1356 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 1: red zone with turnovers, so it's not really showing Bill's defense. 1357 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: Also significing where this is one of the best defense 1358 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL this year. Now you're out Milano, Dai 1359 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Kwon Jones, your star corner, Trey White. They went out 1360 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 1: and got Rasul Douglas better than Elam the Bust their 1361 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 1: bus draft pick, but who knows if he's gonna play. 1362 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: It's one week and he's not. He's not gonna fix 1363 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,680 Speaker 1: your defense dramatically. The Bill's defense way down. So these 1364 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,720 Speaker 1: are two elite offenses still with defenses that are way 1365 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 1: more vulnerable and with all this reduced scoring NFL, I 1366 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 1: think this number is too low. They you know, then 1367 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 1: these two teams played last year. If they have these 1368 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 1: defenses this this total will be like fifty one to 1369 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,759 Speaker 1: fifty two. I think it's a really good game. Bill's 1370 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 1: historically been good in these like revenge spots when they 1371 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 1: go on the road. They did it against the Chiefs. 1372 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 1: They want revenge from last year, but Bengals offense looks back. 1373 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 1: I think this is a nice fun shootout to close 1374 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: things out on Sunday night. 1375 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 2: Well, the reality is if mahomes Is won, these guys 1376 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 2: in some order, depending on how they're playing or two 1377 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 2: and three and are in any given week, they can 1378 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 2: be every bit as good as Patrick mahomes I mean 1379 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,120 Speaker 2: what Joe Burrow was last week was like this guy's 1380 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,800 Speaker 2: fucking beating anybody. I mean he was, and Josh has 1381 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 2: had some games this year where you're like, holy shit, 1382 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 2: this guy's like Roethlisberger meets Lway, so it's just there. 1383 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,839 Speaker 2: Also there are a fun quarterback matchup. 1384 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they seem to be in rhythm that once 1385 01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 1: they're like once Barrow gets in his rhythm. And that's 1386 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 1: why when he's missed time before week one each of 1387 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: the past three seasons, and the Bengals have struggled mightily 1388 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 1: over the first four to five weeks. Borrow is seventy 1389 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 1: percent against the spread after Week six in his career 1390 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,880 Speaker 1: and that's because he's miss time. Takes him a while. 1391 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 1: He's also had some injuries. And then once he gets 1392 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,559 Speaker 1: going and he needs to be able to move a 1393 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, calls QB, scrambles, move around and 1394 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 1: then he can go through his he feels comfortable enough 1395 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 1: to going through his progressions. Once he's in a rhythm, 1396 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 1: he's a tough guy to bet against. But Bill's revenge here. Like, 1397 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,679 Speaker 1: but look, both defenses are vulnerable. We've seen that Bills 1398 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 1: have been bottom five defense since their injuries. If you 1399 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,879 Speaker 1: look from an advanced metrics standpoint, this is a Bengals 1400 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 1: D that's there's some hidden issues. Go back to the 1401 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 1: Titans game. The Titans with Tannehill put up four hundred 1402 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 1: and ten yards and twenty seven points and beat the 1403 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: shit out of them. And these teams have been going 1404 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: up and down the field, just be getting turnovers the 1405 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: past few weeks. So it's hard for me to see 1406 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: how either one of these defenses gets a lot of stops. 1407 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we talked about it. Going to the 1408 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 2: Niner game. You're like, well, their offensive lines great, they're 1409 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 2: running games. Joe Mixon looked like three years ago, Joe 1410 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 2: Mixon running over linebackers. And granted they were off a buy, 1411 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 2: their offensive line played pretty well in that game. So offensively, 1412 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 2: Higgins looked healthy, obviously, Chase looked elite. I mean, those guys, 1413 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,680 Speaker 2: it's like, if their offense gonna play like this, I mean, 1414 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 2: they can win the Super Bowl obviously, Like you said, 1415 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,680 Speaker 2: the downfall their defense it just has to step up 1416 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,680 Speaker 2: and just create turnovers to whatever, because they're gonna give 1417 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 2: up yards but their offense and go toe to toe 1418 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 2: with clearly anybody in the league. 1419 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, completely agree. And yeah, I did want to 1420 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 1: ask you about the They're want to buy this week, 1421 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 1: but the Niners. I wanted to get your thoughts on 1422 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 1: Niners trading for young because I actually liked it. I 1423 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 1: like the trade. To your contender, Bosa is dominating on 1424 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 1: one end. You have Jackson and Ferrell just getting blocked 1425 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: into obliviinion, you get no other edge rush on the 1426 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 1: other side, and you're giving up a third round pick. 1427 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: Maybe you just run him for the season. I think 1428 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 1: it's worth it, especially if you get a Super Bowl 1429 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 1: and then plus I mean, what are the nine is 1430 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna do draft another kicker with the third round? But 1431 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 1: I actually like the move for the Niners as a contender. 1432 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the Bears are doing, 1433 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 1: But did you did you like that move? 1434 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,080 Speaker 2: What I think they needed to add? Like so far, 1435 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 2: their defense just hasn't been as physical over the last 1436 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. And you know people were talking about 1437 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 2: trading for a corner. Well, I think there's some question 1438 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 2: marks about Steve Wilkes right now. Just you know, the 1439 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 2: last several weeks, the defense has not been on the 1440 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 2: same page. And to me, trading for a corner, if 1441 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 2: Demiko was your defensive coordinator, it's like, okay, plug and 1442 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 2: play scheme, He'll figure it out. It can be very 1443 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 2: risky scheme wise, you plug Chase young in It's like 1444 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 2: fucking third and long, go rush first and tend they're running, 1445 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,719 Speaker 2: be physical. It's a pretty easy plug and play position. 1446 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 2: Him and both are buddies. They have had a ton 1447 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,639 Speaker 2: of success with like major rehab projects like arden Key 1448 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,920 Speaker 2: Amna who other guys that, like other teams didn't want 1449 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 2: to become guys that got paid after. This guy does 1450 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 2: have pretty elite physical skills. I don't think he's ever 1451 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,840 Speaker 2: going to be clearly, you know, TJ. Watt, even Nick 1452 01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 2: Bosa because he can't. He doesn't have the bend. But 1453 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,120 Speaker 2: just for what they're looking for, yeah, I mean they 1454 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 2: drafted Drake Jackson high. He's clearly not living up to it. 1455 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, they were just desperate, and especially the pay 1456 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 2: right you just wait a third round pick. It's not 1457 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 2: even just a third round pick, it's a compick. So 1458 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,840 Speaker 2: you're talking about picking the hundreds. So whether you rent him, 1459 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 2: maybe he likes it, and you get him like a 1460 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 2: one year, fifteen million dollar deal to really try to 1461 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 2: get that big deal, prove you're healthy given what you 1462 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 2: had to pay. Let's even acknowledge Sweats a better player 1463 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 2: than Chase. Are they sixty pick difference player? They're both 1464 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,720 Speaker 2: going into free agency, right, Yeah, yeah, No, I love 1465 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 2: because I bet they were interested in Sweat and they're like, hey, 1466 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 2: we'll offer you our second and or fourth, you know, 1467 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 2: given that their second would ideally be like picked fifty eight, 1468 01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 2: and they're like, ah, that's not good enough because they're 1469 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 2: getting picked thirty three for them. So it's Washington. That's 1470 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,840 Speaker 2: the easiest trade they'll ever make in there, and especially 1471 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 2: if they were like, yeah, probably not gonna resign this guy. Wait, 1472 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna give us pick thirty four? You fucking nuts? 1473 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that. It was insane. But they did last. 1474 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 2: Year with Chase Claypool. It admitted that Steelers Joey Porter Junior. 1475 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 1: And then they went out in the off season and they 1476 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,720 Speaker 1: wanted to pay you know, overrated linebackers as their big 1477 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 1: move like that, the I mean holes is lost there. Yeah. 1478 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 1: I love the move, especially because you just had nothing there, 1479 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: like you needed something to balance Bosa and that that's 1480 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna make Bosa better. And there's a lot of metrics 1481 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,599 Speaker 1: that suggests that like Young is at like a top 1482 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,240 Speaker 1: twenty pass rusher in the league, not as consistent, but 1483 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,559 Speaker 1: he's dealt with injuries and there's something that was just 1484 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,680 Speaker 1: off with the Washington defense overall, Like they had all 1485 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,320 Speaker 1: these guys in the defensive line that were so good, 1486 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 1: but then they they were they were excuse me, there 1487 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 1: would be certain games where they would just not dominate 1488 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: right like schematically, there was something off that was going on. 1489 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 1: So I love the move. It was something that forty 1490 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: nine ers desperately needed because. 1491 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,559 Speaker 2: They're in second place. I mean Seattle, Seattle's in first 1492 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,639 Speaker 2: place right now, yes it's And then you can say 1493 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 2: they pulled the game out of their ass, but they 1494 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 2: fucking won the Niners loss. So and they get the 1495 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,519 Speaker 2: Niners on a short week at home that Thanksgiving week, 1496 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 2: So I I think part of it was that. Now, 1497 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 2: to me, the Leonard Williams trade, and I know they 1498 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,599 Speaker 2: needed some defensive help. They gave a second round pick 1499 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 2: for also a guy who's gonna be a free agent. No, 1500 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,760 Speaker 2: Leonard's solid. I thought that was a little rich. But 1501 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,120 Speaker 2: one thing you say about John and Pete, they ain't scared, 1502 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 2: you know. So I think that probably that added some 1503 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 2: emphasis to the forty nine ers because they probably thought 1504 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 2: that those guys might do something else, you know, a 1505 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 2: day later. So I yeah, I think they're just Desperate's 1506 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,560 Speaker 2: probably the wrong word, but they're definitely fucking leaking a 1507 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 2: lot of oil here. 1508 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they got they'll be fine. They got to 1509 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 1: get healthier. I like this move. Don't worry, My Ravens 1510 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 1: will take care of the Seahawks for you this weekend, 1511 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,600 Speaker 1: so you'll be feeling better after this. 1512 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 2: Well, Jaggs Niners next week off a bye on the road. 1513 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's borderline must win for the Niners. You 1514 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 2: can't you can't just lose four straight games in the NFL, 1515 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,599 Speaker 2: even though the NFC. I mean, they could cruise the 1516 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,960 Speaker 2: worst case scenario like ten wins to get in the playoffs, 1517 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,000 Speaker 2: but then all of a sudden, you're playing I don't know, 1518 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 2: the Cowboys or Lions or something in that wild card. 1519 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 2: That's it wouldn't be easy. You say what you want 1520 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 2: about the Lions, they do just have a clear identity. 1521 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 2: You know, if they want to run the ball, the 1522 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,800 Speaker 2: hit play action passes. Their pass rush is really good. 1523 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,800 Speaker 2: They're gonna have a home game in the playoffs, like 1524 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 2: depending on who they play and where there seating is. 1525 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 2: I mean, more than likely they're gonna be favored in 1526 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:25,200 Speaker 2: that first game. 1527 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, the Lions. 1528 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 2: I guess there's Niners. I guess they could be a 1529 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 2: slight and underdog. 1530 01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Lions that their their secondary is still very 1531 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 1: questionable when they go up against elite passing attacks and 1532 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,599 Speaker 1: then you have to avoid the best. If you're you're 1533 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,680 Speaker 1: a Lions, then you want to go the Super Bowl, 1534 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 1: you gotta get you gotta have an indoor path. Jared 1535 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 1: got turns into an absolute pumpkin in any weather conditions. 1536 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's back you go back to that Baltimore Gan. 1537 01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 1: He's just gets rid of it. Is putting the ball 1538 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,280 Speaker 1: into the ground. Looks like you know, Tommy DeVito. So 1539 01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,759 Speaker 1: but yeah, the Lions are frisky. They're they're their offense 1540 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 1: is only going to get better that with that offensive line, 1541 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: they have an identity. There's second is very weak. Like 1542 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to see them winning a Super 1543 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,639 Speaker 1: Bowl because I don't know how they would stop any 1544 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:09,240 Speaker 1: of the elite offense at the time, not like dose, 1545 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 1: But they're definitely gonna be frisky. 1546 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 2: And if you're a Lions fan, you're rooting for Dallas 1547 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 2: because just google your schedule. I mean, you got a 1548 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 2: lot of Bears, you got a lot of Joshua Dobbs. 1549 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you got the one seed is not crazy. 1550 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 2: You gotta need the Eagles to lose some games, but 1551 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 2: just based on their schedule, it's pretty wide open. It's 1552 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 2: pretty easy. The Packers suck. You already beat them in 1553 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 2: Green Bay. I mean they got to me. The Lions 1554 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,480 Speaker 2: are a twelve win team. Now can they win fourteen? 1555 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's it's definitely there to be 1556 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,599 Speaker 2: had if they play well enough. And like you said, 1557 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 2: the road goes through Detroit. It's crazy to even say 1558 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 2: that out loud. You give yourself a chance. 1559 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:52,639 Speaker 1: I agreed. 1560 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,639 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks bro, have a good weekend. 1561 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 1: Let's roll, baby, Absolutely enjoy the games. Talking next week, 1562 01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 1: the volume